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Patriots Unfiltered 10/13: NFL Week 6 Picks, Previewing the Browns, Mac Jones or Bailey Zappe on Sunday? · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm still I'm still recovering from that rocket
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  Speaker 1: crazy show, but that was an all time moment when
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  Speaker 1: I've been here. I wish I could have been there
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  Speaker 1: for that, because then I could have piped in and
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  Speaker 1: been like, well, I guess that's why I'm single, because
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  Speaker 1: I love college football. The team, team bar, team bar. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it is Thursday here at Gillette Stadium, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: full crew. It's Deuced, it's Tamara, it's Alex, it's Paul,
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  Speaker 1: it's me, it's Matt and the booth and uh, I
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  Speaker 1: think we're here. We're on TV. One of those days
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  Speaker 1: that we're on TV and no one said anything, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're on TV. I wish I would have known I
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  Speaker 1: would have and dressed. That's behavior. Your dressed. You're not dressed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean she means dressed. Yeah, well that's blind last
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  Speaker 1: week you to put your shoes and socks on. Yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's radio all right, um, but yeah it's Cleveland week here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah. I feel good about this one. Fred.
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  Speaker 1: I don't often feel confident, but I think patriots are going. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We we got off the show and we were walking
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  Speaker 1: back to our places of work yesterday after the show,
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  Speaker 1: and you were like, I'm I'm sure about this. What
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  Speaker 1: was your tagline? Get even in Cleveland? Get Even in Cleveland?
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  Speaker 1: I know I burned it on the ten to watch,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought that was a good little thing. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's always like everybody's looking for
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  Speaker 1: captions constantly, and like, you know, we need social media
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  Speaker 1: captioned one. I like, so, hey, get back to three
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  Speaker 1: and three and three. Well I already used it, so
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  Speaker 1: they better not. Thinks is that your key to the
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  Speaker 1: game too, Getting even? Yeah? No, no, it's just h
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  Speaker 1: don't tell us, stop the run. Tell us what makes
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  Speaker 1: you so certain? I don't know, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: just have some confidence today. I feel like the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: are playing well, and I think that. I think the
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  Speaker 1: Browns like they got a good run team, but I
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  Speaker 1: think they're one dimensional and I think based on when
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  Speaker 1: we saw last week, I think they'll have a good
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  Speaker 1: plan and kind of put the game on Brissette and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be able to pull it out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: walk in the park, but I think I'll pull away.
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  Speaker 1: My thing about them is, isn't every team going to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to put it on Brissette and yet
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  Speaker 1: they still average one hundred and niney yards. Patriots will
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  Speaker 1: do it. They'll do it. Then. Yeah, they got they
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  Speaker 1: got the pieces, they got the talent, they got the commitment.
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  Speaker 1: Three and three. Let's well. I mean, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: listen to Bill yesterday talking about the Browns, and it
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  Speaker 1: is true. Browns have a lot of talent on that team.
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  Speaker 1: They do. That's why they went out and got Watson.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like they had a time that was ready
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  Speaker 1: to contend for, you know, the AFC title. It makes sense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Garrett and Clowney have six injuries between
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  Speaker 1: the two of them listed right now. So yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: important players didn't practice yesterday. I wouldn't worry both of them.
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  Speaker 1: It was like shoulder bicep risk means Marylynck that's his alarm. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: alarm to say arm upper body. Joel Patonio, Jadevian Clowney
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  Speaker 1: and Marii Cooper, Ronnie Harrison and Denzel Ward all didn't
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  Speaker 1: practice Ship Chef Cleveland. Yeah, and it's gotten to the
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  Speaker 1: point of j I even I laugh at it now
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  Speaker 1: now it's as expected, good perfect nding up. Take these
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  Speaker 1: while we can in the middle of the season. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they'll I think they'll play well. I
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  Speaker 1: feel I feel confident. I don't know. I don't usually
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  Speaker 1: I don't really found this drum. So we'll see what
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  Speaker 1: it means. I think you're playing the role of Andy
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  Speaker 1: actually Andy Hart, who actually was on the show yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: But Andy used to do that, like whatever the last
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  Speaker 1: return was. That's what he's based on. You know, go
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  Speaker 1: to Tampa in the preseason, you have ten sacks. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have the best we could go undefeated this year.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the best defense ever. You know, amazing
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  Speaker 1: that that's exactly the game. It was a Tampa preseason game.
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  Speaker 1: He declared he thought Gerardmeyo and Andre Carter were gonna
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  Speaker 1: split the like the Defensive Player of the Year award. Wow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised to learn this about Andy. That seems very
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  Speaker 1: reaction because like they played like three series against the
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  Speaker 1: Bucks and they had like five sacks and they were
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  Speaker 1: all over the place. They're gonna blitch this year. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do No, they didn't. I'm not even they send
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  Speaker 1: it off of anything that outstanding. Like I thought they
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  Speaker 1: were fine last week, but but I think so you're
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  Speaker 1: not telling me that last week got you into this
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  Speaker 1: great mood. And no, maybe a little bit with the defense,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit. But I think they're gonna play
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  Speaker 1: even better this week. I think this week will be
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  Speaker 1: a more you know, team effort. I think the offense
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  Speaker 1: will will do more no matter who's I'm with you
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the defense. Yeah, I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're showing week by week that Steve Belichick
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  Speaker 1: and Gerard Mayo were figuring out who they've got, who
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  Speaker 1: can do what, who can do what well, and they're
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  Speaker 1: putting guys in the position to succeed. They're coming up
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  Speaker 1: with good game plans based on the opponent um, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm optimistic about the defense. Yeah, I am too, especially
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  Speaker 1: with Brissette, someone they know very well. I think that
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  Speaker 1: the game plan they put together is going to be
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  Speaker 1: something that's going to be able to contain as much
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  Speaker 1: as much as they can the run game obviously, and
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  Speaker 1: force them to, you know, throw the ball a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more. And then I think on offense, I think
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  Speaker 1: what I'm looking for is finishing in the red zone.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't want seven field goals. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna throw it at the red zone. That's like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want seven field goals. You start to you
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  Speaker 1: start to tap it down, and the question is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're assuming Bailey's Appy is going to be the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Will they be willing to take chances once they get
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  Speaker 1: in the red zone? Well, I mean, or just give
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  Speaker 1: it to Remandre let them well get some rushing touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I just over the field goals, like obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather three over nothing. But that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing about Cleveland that, you know, as good as their
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  Speaker 1: running attack is, their running defense isn't that good. They're
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  Speaker 1: giving up one one hundred and sixty yards a game
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. You know what, if Ramandre is
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  Speaker 1: like really the only threat they have to plant, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'll be interested to see how they handle
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  Speaker 1: Ramandre when I mean, given what happens with Damien. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the depth just really isn't there in the backfield. I
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  Speaker 1: was just talking about that upstairs. I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna see Pierre Strong or we gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe see Kevin Harris j J. Taylor, Like I wonder
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  Speaker 1: what they are going to do so that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there is another running back available. They'll have to
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  Speaker 1: bring one up. Yeah, and Paul thinks it'll be J. J. Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: probably because of his experience. But I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 1: to see either David Harris or Pierre Strong as as well.
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  Speaker 1: You might even have two running backs. N Kevin Harris.
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  Speaker 1: What did I say, David David David Harris for the Jets? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or David Monk. I think he was here too for
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  Speaker 1: wasn't he for a cup of a cup of coffee?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he ever made I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: somewhere A good player, a really good player for the Jets. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Harris. I also thought it was interesting, outside of
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  Speaker 1: um finishing in the red zone, the number one thing
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  Speaker 1: when I talked to the receivers yesterday in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room that they said there was a priority for this
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  Speaker 1: week was ball security. And I'm like, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wish I could have gotten to talk to Nelson Aglor
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  Speaker 1: about that. Oh hey, it's it's been. It's been a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Well in his case, it's as much it's
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  Speaker 1: it's as much about catching the ball so that you
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  Speaker 1: can't secure it, you know, Um yeah, um right, though,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because they've only had four takeaways and four turnovers,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, turnovers don't really seem like they've had a
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  Speaker 1: big impact on this team. It doesn't seem like they're
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  Speaker 1: loose with the football, they don't really force turn well,
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  Speaker 1: it's just that they haven't been able to overcome them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when they happened. When they happened last game
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  Speaker 1: was pretty good. You know, we're talking about Cleveland. Oh, Cleveland. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They haven't been a team that's taken the
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  Speaker 1: ball away very so I'm just interesting that that's what
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  Speaker 1: they and both of them said it like, and they
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  Speaker 1: weren't even next to each other. When I asked them, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what their focus was, both of them said
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  Speaker 1: ball security. And I guess it was because of the
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  Speaker 1: point of emphasis with especially Bill Belichick talked about it,
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  Speaker 1: with them being so fast on defense, I guess that
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  Speaker 1: is what they're focusing on. Is ball security being the
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  Speaker 1: most important thing Patriots are focusing because which I think
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  Speaker 1: in me a curve you started. Yeah, Mike's point was
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  Speaker 1: it's strange that they were talking so much about ball
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  Speaker 1: security against a team that doesn't take the ball away well.
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  Speaker 1: On Nelson's interception in particular, it wasn't even anyone taking
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  Speaker 1: the ball away from him. It was just off his
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  Speaker 1: hands and they caught the tips. So right, see, we
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  Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. Run tv A you can m Yeah, careful,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Well, I think I think that you know, until
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  Speaker 1: you know, until the Patriots can prove, you know, over
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  Speaker 1: a stretch of time that you know, they're taking care
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  Speaker 1: of the ball, I think that has to be the
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  Speaker 1: message every week to them, you know. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: in some way that they've been. I mean that last
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  Speaker 1: one Igalore had was was you know that that the fumble.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's had a couple of plays,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, I said yesterday, it just bugs you
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  Speaker 1: that he got a young quarterback. You know, guys need
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  Speaker 1: to step up, and you're just not making plays for
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  Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback and you're putting him in a bad place.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's uh, that's what's what's tough. But interesting
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  Speaker 1: point of emphasis though, and it just makes me wonder.
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  Speaker 1: You know, JJ Taylor last year, this was his last game.
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  Speaker 1: I know, he's been a guy with ball security things.
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  Speaker 1: And another thing I thought too was I think mack
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  Speaker 1: Wilson forced the fumble last year, right, what didn't he
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  Speaker 1: force a fumble on the Patriots last year? Here? I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe perhaps he was involved a lot. Really he
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  Speaker 1: played he's one of the few players that's out just
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  Speaker 1: that is. But I know, sorry, um, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just interesting it's it's largely the same defense that
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  Speaker 1: they had last year. Paul mentioned Ward. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of had it down here. I mean, looking at
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  Speaker 1: you know, some of his his stats over the last
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  Speaker 1: few years, he's been really good and he's been one
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  Speaker 1: of the guys that that just hasn't really been playing
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  Speaker 1: up the part for them right now, Well, the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: had their first participation report yesterday we mentioned a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Browns not playing but uh not practicing, But the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots had a lot of people practicing, but a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them limited. So how Damian Harris was limited, Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: Guy was limited obviously, Mac Jones was limited, Jilan Mills,
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  Speaker 1: who else? Agalore he was limited. He also has a hand,
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  Speaker 1: got a back. I mean, there's some of these injuries
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  Speaker 1: pop up and you don't like they never miss anything,
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  Speaker 1: so you never it never like really gets on your
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  Speaker 1: radar where guys who have missed games like Guy. You
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  Speaker 1: know Harris is expected to miss games. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, it's I think it's a reminder
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  Speaker 1: that there's a bunch of guys dealing with stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you know, you might not even realize. Johnny Smith was
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  Speaker 1: out there again, So they're all out there. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I think Lawrence Guy would be would be the big
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  Speaker 1: one to get him back against this rundee Alex, I
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: see you have your phone out, do you mind checking
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: the weather for Sayady did? Yeah, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: very similar to last week in Cleveland. Um, it's stay
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's staying warm out there. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: out sixty mostly sunny, okay, any win factor and he
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  Speaker 1: breeze coming in. I was really surprised. Bill mentioned that
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  Speaker 1: there was a cross win last week here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you couldn't see that from the press box, like
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: the flags on the goalposts were not really moving. But
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: I guess there was like some kind of crosswind. It
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: was definitely windy yesterday. But I think we were just
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: trapped in the bowl because I know, walking into the stadium,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: my hair just got ruined. And then once I was in,
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, it's not let me too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't great, of course I did. Yeah, Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking up the game book from last year. Mike
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: and uh Mac Wilson had seven tackles in the game,
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  Speaker 1: but did not now have any force fumbled. Patriots did
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  Speaker 1: not turn the ball over in that game. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that was pretty much a perfect game. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what was the final score of that one? And if
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  Speaker 1: you'll remember the first drive by Cleveland, they rushed at
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  Speaker 1: a bunch, they kind of went right down the field
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  Speaker 1: and scored, and then Patriots countered and scored, and then
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  Speaker 1: next possession Cleveland turned it over. Patriots scored. That was
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  Speaker 1: four four. Is that the one where Chubb was on
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  Speaker 1: a gallop? That was Yeah, was active in the game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. That was before Chubb was a superstar
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  Speaker 1: he was, yeah, he um. It was de Ernest Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: That was the guy you guys were making fun of
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  Speaker 1: me about how remember these things? Um? And they ran
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  Speaker 1: him right down the field and the first drive and
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  Speaker 1: then the next drive they came out and empty backfield,
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  Speaker 1: shotgun spread and throwing it all over the place, and
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  Speaker 1: they may started turning the ball and floated and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was where I lost any any any hope of
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  Speaker 1: big Ernest Johnson had nineteen carries for ninety nine yards
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  Speaker 1: in that game. Five point two would carry. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: it was all on the first drive. Once they fell behind,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't run ball anymore. I betch at least thirty
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  Speaker 1: forty of them were on that first drive for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be another interesting test. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: the key is limiting the Cleveland rushing attack. If you
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  Speaker 1: can do that, Yeah, if you can hold them, believe
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  Speaker 1: it or not, around one hundred yards, I think you
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  Speaker 1: win this game. One hundred yards like total between the
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  Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah, yeah, rushing, rushing, yeah, total, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just we spent so much time in
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  Speaker 1: the last few seasons talking about the Patriots run defense,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes these kind of teams come up,
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  Speaker 1: like last year, and you think, oh, this could be
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  Speaker 1: a good challenge to see where they're really at, and
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  Speaker 1: then you get dearest Johnson instead of those two guys.
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  Speaker 1: So I like games like this where something that you
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  Speaker 1: know you're not maybe not one hundred percent sold on
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  Speaker 1: just yet that the Patriots can you know, straight up
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  Speaker 1: stop the run right from the get go. Last week,
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  Speaker 1: I think they showed they could do it in you know,
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  Speaker 1: specific instances in short yardage, which is great. But you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: this is a straight up test against Bill was all
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  Speaker 1: over their offensive line too, and both these guys should
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: be ready to go, so you should learn something about
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  Speaker 1: job Hunt not even on the injury report, and they
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: only have one offensive lineman, um Patonio, I mean, one
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  Speaker 1: of their better ones, but they it should be a
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  Speaker 1: good test. Yeah, yeah, is with these guys too, I saw,
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  Speaker 1: but a legit test, and I think if they do,
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  Speaker 1: if they do well against the their run, there's no
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  Speaker 1: asterisks there where in many of these games they're you know, pros.
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  Speaker 1: There's a butt. Yeah, I would just be interested in
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  Speaker 1: Like Detroit the other day, I think got off to
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  Speaker 1: a decent start running the ball and then fell behind him,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: couldn't really run like I would be just curious to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: see how the game unfolds. But yeah, personnel wise, definitely
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: no asteris. And if your thing comes true and it's
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: a regular, it's my thing. One hundred yards okay, one
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: hundred yards. I mean that would be an incredible performance.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: If it's like one hundred, one hundred and ten yards
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: rushing for the Browns and you know it's like a
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: twenty four twenty game or something like that, that's that's
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: really good defense. Did you catch what I did in
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: the round table? And I haven't read him yet? Now
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: you should start sharing those with the rest of the class.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Why you can read them when they're posted. Yeah, but
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: you know I won't do it. But I don't want
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: you to, you know, apply give you any hints. You know,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't need to, I said,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I said, if the Patriots can hold the Browns below
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred and two point three yards, wow, Okay, So
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: how did you calculate that because well, that's that's what
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I want people to wonder, like, where did I come
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: up with that number? It's advanced analytics. I think Freddie's
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: like Johnny analytic into exact. Yeah, a lot of numbers involved,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: that's what came out one or two point three one
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: or two point two point three. Yeah, it's close. I
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: mean it's like one or two point two two two nine.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I just round you think he's Cynthia Freeland. I don't
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: know started on her or anybody else. People without girlfriends,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: very very judgy, very very judging, judging. It just sits
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: in his ivory tower looking down at the all twenty
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: two judging people who don't watch it and don't have girlfriends. Yeah, well,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: listen takes up a lot of time, all right. Eight
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: five five five hundred is the ACE ticket hot line.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address? Um,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: what else we got a big expose about from Seth
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Wickersham on ESPN today you get Van Nada and Wickersham
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: on yet and there was another byline in there, Uh
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: was Tsha Thompson or something like that about Dan Snyder
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and all there, but the voluminous he might have dirt
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: on all the other owners and that's why they haven't
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: kicked him out yet, because he could drop the bomb
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: if he wanted to at any time. And he's hired
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: private detectives to dig up dirt on even Goodell. I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: mean wow, And then you're coming to and then there
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: it's next week. There's owners meetings right like Tuesday, Tuesday.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: So this this stuff is good stuff. Kind of interesting
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: how it all comes out right now. And then we
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: got we got a weekend to kind of let it
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: percolate a little bit, so that that's out there. Anything else?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: A big game tonight at Big Bears in Commanders. Well,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: we gotta do some scouting right call. You'll be watching
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: watching He's party. This is probably a game that I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: shan't watch a play. I don't think I will either,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: although I am kind of curious to see the all
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: orange yeah for the Bears, and I saw it and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: all right out. Do you think it'll top last week's
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Thursday night game? It can't be worse, are you sure? Yeah?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Because that was the world was at twelve nine and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: overtime last week, and not only did you have to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: think overtime of it? I can't imagine. I mean the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: most entertaining part of the game were the memes on
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Twitter coming out about how bad the game was. I mean,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: if if it starts out worse than I Goodell will
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: just run out of the All right, that's it. Stop
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: stop the cameras. You think it was going to be
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: there for this one. I think he does the opposite.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the great Thursday night game the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: fans on Thursday night football, Like, no matter what happens,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: he tells you, the the fans are telling us they want,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you know, forty games this season, that's what they're telling
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That was the year that he was here and he
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: was speaking at the hall and Fred and I were
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: off to the side, and anyone were like staff and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Walter Will making fun of everything that he said. Yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: this guy, I wish that you had to earn Thursday
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: night football games, like in college football. Everyone does not
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: get a Thursday night football game. Like I couldn't even
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: imagine if that was a thing. Yeah, I mean, it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like you know, having to earn hard knocks. Nobody wants either. Yeah, which,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if you listen to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the pregame show, but we had forget our guests name
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: from Detroit Tim twenty Tim twentyman, how did I forget
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that name? We asked him about just what it was
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: like from his as Detroit Lions dot Com to have
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks going on, and it was interesting, like a
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: little bit insight of you know, actually hearing what the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: guy said. You know, you watch practice, then you go,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I mean a week later you see the episode, but um,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting. You asked him like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: how heavily I'm sure it was, but how heavily edited?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: It was like, oh, I don't think you would know
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that from the outside. Well, you know what happened at practice,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and then you know what shows up on TV, but
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you don't know what was going on behind closed doors.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: O oh that part. Yeah. Bradley, our video guy, could
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: answer that question for you because he was with the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Browns when they did the Hard Knock seasons and his
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: stories are legendary, real legendary. What I liked was we
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: asked him about, you know, like how his interaction with
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the camera was like did he get on? Was he
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and he was laughing, he goes that was one of
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the things he went into camp saying, I'm gonna do
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: whatever I can to make sure I'm not anywhere near right.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: He goes in like that very first thing that you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: see of him, Dan Campbell doing the updowns. He's right
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: by he goes and I'm looking into cameras right in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: my face. He's like, I guess I'm gonna be in.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I guess they get the cover practice there. Huh. Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, he was right next to the field,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I think, And he looked up and he said the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: camera was like looking right at him, not us. We'll
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: be up on the I was sitting Belichick the the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: O nine one. You were you were taking notes something.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: You went to your your your paper. I was like, hey,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: copious notes, hands folded on the desk, anything else. Before
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: we get to the calls and emails. I think we
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: gotta we have picks Toad on Cleveland and if the hurry,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Evan will be here after practice to let us Nil
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Harry's back for the Bears. So Nikil Harry, I guess
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: has this game circled on his calendar? He confirmed? Is
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that right? What is against the watching the commanders? Just
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to be back No tho was the Bears Monday night game.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I misspoke. Yeah, oh the next next week? Yeah, well
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: look out, watch out? All right? What would you do? Yes?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm being dead serious. How would you feel if
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: he went for like eight and a buck twenty and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns? I'd have to revac. Would it bother you more? No? Oh,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: it would bother me. It would bother me more because
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, I never saw that, and it would
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: bother the training camp practices or whatever. We would bother
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: me a lot more. Now, it wouldn't bother me because
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I just knew. I would know that no matter what
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: he does where he goes, he wasn't gonna do that here.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Like it was done a great way to go through life.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't gonna have it was the right move,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: no matter what. No, no, really, I mean, do you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: ever think that that was gonna happen here? You know?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I think I don't think he'll ever catch I would
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: go into every season saying, Okay, this is gonna be
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He's gonna turn it around. Yeah, or and I just
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: gave up. It was never gonna happen here. He needed
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a new place, you know, and who knows if it's
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: going to happen there either. But it just wasn't going
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to happen here. So if he if he has a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: great career somewhere else, good for him. I mean I
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: was wondering why they couldn't have got it out of
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: him here? And what it does it look like like?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Is he like a contested catch monster? Now? And you
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: know what, would it bug you from the point they
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: weren't able to get to him or he just wasn't
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: putting his best effort here. No, they weren't able to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: use him, right, they weren't able to get that out
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of him. If he ends up turning into a really
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: good player, that would be that would bother me? Yeah, yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: why didn't we get it out of him? Yeah? Would
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it make you feel worse though? If he was just
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: like this wide receiver who just run blocked the whole
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: game and was just steamrolling guys down the field, that
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: wouldn't bother me, like he's flexing or just killing guys left.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't wish Yeah, I don't wish you will,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: but I would bug me if you all of a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: sudden turned out to be a great receiver somewhere else
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: two games back from injury. I don't not too No,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not spilled. I don't have really any fear of
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that happening. No. Yeah, well you just watched them enough.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, I don't want to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: say it's the same thing as as Zappy, but it's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a similar thing where it's like, look, we go out
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to practice, we sit there and we watch I mean,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: guys who are good, you see, the guys are good,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and guys who don't do much. You see guys who
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: don't do much. Like I'm not expecting Bailey Zappy to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: do things I didn't see this summer, just like I'm
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: not expecting to kill Harry to do things that I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: didn't see for three summers or whatever, four summers of
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: watching them in the training camp. You know. Yeahikes, that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was a harsh comparison. Well you see, you know, you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, you know what I mean. Right
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: there he is, there's Zappy. All right, let's go to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the phones. I guess I will start with Todd North
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Carolina on the ACE taket a hot line. What's up Todd? Hey, guys.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: My prediction for the game tonight is as based on
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the Paul Prittle theory that when you have two average
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to Midland teams. You take the home team, and I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: think Cleveland's probably gonna pull this out. I think it's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be really close. But my feeling is there's you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you're playing gaft the Patriots, you always step up. I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: don't care. Even if it's past the dynasty, you still
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: they still want to beat you. Right, So, and the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: talent on the Cleveland team is pretty good. You're picking
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Cleveland seriously, I am on bro Wow. Now I have
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a good question for you guys going forward past this game,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: because and into the winning streak, which two players, one
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: on offense one on defense need to bring their a
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: game for the rest of the year to really make
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a difference. And my two are Mac Jones on the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: offense because I think if he can bring his a game,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: he's got enough tools that you'll be able to do things.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And then just Uche, I think we need to see
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: something from Ouche. I think if he can start flying
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: around and we up that his game, then I think
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: we've got some enough to I think I think I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is obvious. I think Buche is a stretch.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I think you're really digging deep. There's a bit player. Yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I think. I mean, listen, if he turns out to
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: be like, you know, this great player, but that's not
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: going to happen. I don't think. I think you're digging deep.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I would just stick at and he's made a difference
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: just plays like every down though. I mean, josh uch
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: is playing like fifteen twenty snaps a game. It's hard
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to think we need more of him on the field. Really,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: So you want more, I'm sure I want more plays.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need him to be out. I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: just wanted to make plays. To me, it would be
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Jude On maintaining Yeah, unlike last year, his maintaining his
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: strong level of play. Okay, well, I didn't want to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: pick dude On because I thought he was already bringing
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: his A game. But yeah, I get what you're saying.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I think if every week the defensive battfield, the young
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: guys get a little bit better, just a little bit
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: better every week, I think to me, that's that's the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: ingredient of success on defense. Yeah, well let's let's yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: let's see them match up against thanks time. You know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a deep receiving corps and you got them coming up
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and they'll be fine with this game. They'll be fine
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: with the next one. Let me know what happens in
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: November and December. Yeah, that's why I say by that time,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: hopefully they're in full stride um George and Madison. New
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Jersey writes, and do you guys think that all the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: calls for Zappy to usurp Mac would be so loud
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: if Mac were playing better? No? Well, I mean I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: think that goes a little bit to what we're saying. Answer.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that Mac was catching some flak,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you know, before he got hurt, Like you know, I mean,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: there were there were certainly people saying, oh, he hasn't
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: made the year two jump. I mean, if Mac had
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: been lighting it up until now, we'd be just, you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: begging for him to get back. Mac is clearly farther
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: along than Zappy and the better quarterback overall. But is
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Mac going to be the kind of quarterback that will
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: get you out of a two and three TD hole
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: against the Mahomes or Alan. I know it's early, but
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: my gut tells me he's not to get there. I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: know quarterbacks. Although I never played football, I lived one
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: floor below Eli Manning in Hoboken for two years. Actually true,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and once rode in the elevator with Peyton, who I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: didn't recognize, So this clearly makes me an expert. You
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: didn't recognize pet Hoboken, Freddy. Isn't that Arthur's? Yes, yes,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it's Arthur's. Have you ever gone to Arthur's and Hooken?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Great place? Is it? What is it? It was a
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: steak place. But not recognizing Peyton, like, I know, didn't
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: imagine you're much of a football He's pretty recognized. Yes,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: unless he had like some woolen hat over could be too.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe he like if you have on sunglasses and hat
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and like something. Sure, well, I mean we were at
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the hall, we saw boomer size, and there we knew
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: who it was, right, It's true. Thanks, thanks Dukes. Is
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that boomer size? Paul? It's an inside joke my five
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: foot nothing? Those who know no, Um, let's see um.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Lots of emails about whether or not I would agree,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: by the way, about mac Jones, like just to we
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: should probably talk about the guy's email. You took the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: time to read it. Yeah, but I thought, okay, I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of faith in the Patriots offense
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: coming back from you know, multiple school deficits, and I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: think that you know that that's a problem for mac Jones.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think that there their acknowledgement of pushing the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: ball down the field is a way to try to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: get to that point? Yep? You know, like it seems like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I saw them win the game that they
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: won Sunday a million times, you know, twelve really, but
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen them win another way. I think with
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the Patriots coaching staff did throughout the offseason, I think
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. A lot of people have
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: given them a lot of correct crap for it. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think that they needed to find ways to get some
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: chunk plays and have the ability to score quicker so
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: when you're in a different kind of game, you're not
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: spending eight and a half minutes getting the one score
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of the two school deficit, which is what they did
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: in those games that they never had a chance in
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: last year. And they needed to show a willingness to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: do it, because again, if they were easy to defend
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: last year, the way to combat that is to be,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, do different things so that teams don't know
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: what you're gonna do on every down, you know, become
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a little less easy to defend, and you have to show,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: even if it's not successful, show the willingness to go
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: deep once in a while, you know, and now with
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Thornton back, maybe you can actually be successful doing it. Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean the speed that they drafted. I mean you
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: look up and down the draft. Everybody can run. I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: mean from Cole Strange through Marcus Jones and you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I mean all those guys are fast. Pierre Strong, I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: guess now it's just a question of can you get
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: back back and translate it? And I think for me,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: like that's why I'm kind of stuck. Like there's so
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: much analysis going on of the offense, and you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the Patricia thing and all that, but like they play
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: two games with their backups, Like it's hard for me
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to really look at these last two games and be
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like this is what they are. This to me is
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: like two lifeboat games where you're just trying to get
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the win and not beat yourself, right, And so it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: hard to really judge where they are over the last
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: two weeks. You know. So once you get Mac back,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: then you can start pressing that issue more and see
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: what they really are. But until he does, I think
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that they're still in that lifeboat. I really wonder what
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Max's mindset is right now. Someone asked about that, like
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: where is he mentally dealing with the injury? And also
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I guess you could say that Zappi fever situation and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: they're like, that's a question for Mac. Yeah, well it is.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a question for Matt. How you're gonna
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: ask Joe Judge how he's doing mentally, Like he's not
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in his mind Like so when he when he does
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: come back, he is he pressed? You know when he
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: when he does come back, does he press and does
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that hurt him or does he use this as motivation
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and does it make him get better? I just for me,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's clean up the mistakes. I think Mac was playing okay.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I just think he needs to clean up the mistakes.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And when we talked about him going out and getting
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the the perspective from watching a couple of games, like,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I just hope he gets back to that that, you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: not throwing terrible interceptions. I mean, their interceptions are going
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to happen, Zappy hap, but you know it's the ones
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: where it's right to the guy. And there's been ones
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: that have been dropped and it was consistent, and I
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing that he needs to clean
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: up to get back here and you know, get on
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: track and get rid of this dappy stuff. But in
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: terms of his mindset, I mean, based on what I've
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: seen in that guy, I think he wants to get
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: back a SAP. I think, well, I'm pretty sure of that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean, I think he understands the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: NFL and that you know, you can lose your job anyway,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's injury or whatever. You know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: regardless of how much of this zappy stuff is kind
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: of overblown, I still think he hears that and he
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: wants to push things to get back, maybe even before
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: he should. That's where I think I hope he's taking
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that personally. Yeah, well sure, I mean, you know, Michael Jordan,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: how dare you play marginally? Well? Wait, Paul, what was
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the thing that you taught me on Sunday? Hands up
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: or Paul up? Palms palms up? You have to kind
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: of jump in youth sports, that's as up. Well, the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: youth sports coaches are always we're a palm's down team,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: not a palms up like settled down patience, not what
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: are we doing juggling. Um. I also will say, yes,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I do want Mac Jones when he's back out there
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to kind of limit the tone rovers But I also
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: say I kind of feel like the offensive line is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: playing better now than they were. Yeah, that's what weird
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: beginning in a season. So I'm thinking a mixture with
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a better offensive line maybe that'll help him out. So yeah,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: so maybe watching from above and says, hey, these guys
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: aren't so bad. I think bringing Cannon in has kind
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of settled things. Using him as the extra person, the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: eligible person, you know, Um, that's help. I think Stevenson
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: has gotten better every week with Blitz pick up, um,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know. So I think you're right. I think Cole strange,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: you would imagine every game he's got, but I think
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: they've gotten better. And so I think that when Mac
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Jones is available and Brady to come back, that I'm
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: hoping that that could help him out too. I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: there's anything we've We've been talking a lot about it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: We get stopped, stack the box and stop, you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Chubb and Hunt. I mean, do you think there's anything
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to be said talking about things that have developed since
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Mac has been out? Stevenson great game last week continues
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to ascend. Do you get to a point where you
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: feel like, hey, Stevenson might require a little box attention
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: from the defense, you know, and and maybe that can
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: help downfield if they get you know, less coverage heads,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: especially downfield. I mean, I wonder if means something now,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you know, does does does? This game and everybody's talking
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: about Zappie Mac, I feel like I'm going to Harrison
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and Stevenson, but you know, does Harris's injury at this
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: point and Stevenson's Stevenson's kind of ascension a little bit?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Does that change the roles at all? I mean, it
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: still seemed like kind of Harris was the lead guy,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you know, does does? Does? Does Stevenson take that over?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And does he become kind of the lead guy? I mean,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I think they're great together, but I just think if
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Stevenson brings this threat of well, you know, we have
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to consider this, well, I think they're you know, when
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: we're stacking once Harris is healthy, like, do you have
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to change it up? It's working the way they do it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: You know, put Harrison to start, you know, and you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: mix in Stevenson and as things start to roll, you
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: figure out. You know what styles working best? You know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I don't. I see no reason to really change that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: up as long as Harris is healthy. I also liked
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: someone asked Bill this. I can't remember if it was
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: after the game or um the next day, but someone
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: asked hez Ramandre proved that he can be in every
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: down back and he said, there's no question about that
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: of course. All right. Yeah, so I think he's raved
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: about him a ton and that they do need to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: lean on him heavily while Harris is gone. Like that's great,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: But I do agree that why not use both of them?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Why not use both? Yeah? Um Bama Boom writes in
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: first time emailer found your podcasts after the Bucks game
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and love the show. My question is do you think
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: people are overlooking the Browns matchup? I think this is
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a serious test for the team and could see a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: really close game this Sunday. Well, I definitely Deuce is
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: overlooking it. I am, I definitely am. I'm trying to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: set them up to fail. No, I would never do so.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Mike is doing no. No. I just I just think
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. I mean, last week Lions
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: team is pretty good. I think this Patriot team will
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: come together and I think they've found something. Also, I
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: haven't watched a ton of the Cleveland Browns, but I
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: feel like the fact that the games that they've lost
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: have been by a total of six points, it's like
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: they could be undefeated right now, which is I did
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: not predict that, especially considering what's going on in their
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: quarterback room. I was like, Oh, they're not going to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: win a game, but to see they could have could
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: be five and oh right now, it's like it is
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a little shocking based on their season. I don't know
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: how you could feel great about saying that this one
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: would be easy. Right Every one of their games basically
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: has gone down to the last possession yep, and the
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: one that was a two score a game involved a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: touchdown on the on the last play of the game
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that you know, the Pittsburgh Thursday Night or there was
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a fumble lateral play that that game was twenty three
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: seventeen I think until that play. So all the other games,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: if they miss a field goal opening Day, they lose.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: If they make a field goal last week against the Chargers,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: they win. That's how every one of their games has been. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: but thinks it's all right. The Panthers, they just fired
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: their coach, Jets week two with Joe Flacco, Steelers are
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: on their next quarterback. The Falcons. The Falcons and the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Chargers without most of their stars, and Justin Herbert's playing
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: with Rid So some contexts we talk about everybody, are
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: we going to do this? Right? So now now we're
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: gonna say, Pittsburgh in Detroit, right, two wins combined, right, Like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. They've all been close. But I
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: just think the page no, no, Pins games haven't all
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: been close. Those are their wins. Pittsburgh in Detroit, Miami.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: They got blasted against Miami, and they got blasted against
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Baltimore in the fourth quarter, the best one of the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: probably the best team in the conference. Okay, but you lost.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: So so why we have all this like confidence that
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a blow I agree with you.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I think everyone of Cleveland's games has gone down to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the last play. I think the Patriots will beat him
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: by ten points. I hope you're right. I don't think
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: it's a blowout, but ten points in the NFL is
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a blowout, all right, Then they'll blow them out. I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: mean there's one spread this week. That's more than ten
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: points one. Yeah, out of the fourteen game, nobody haats
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Jacobi per Set more than you, Paul, So I think
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: he stinks. But it's a freend's point. All they do
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: is run the ball, and they find a way to
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: score points. It's one of those rare teams that finds
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a way to get in the mid mid to high
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: twenties without throwing the ball and matching up with us, Like,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's I think their success is a credit
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to their running backs also, like a really great offensive line,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and just our defensive line has not really blown me
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: away this year. That's that's fair. That's fair. Well, I
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: think I think you're right overall, but I think they're
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: getting better week by week as well. Why do you
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: judge though, I'd love to see Lawrence Guy back. I
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: think that would really help. But like last week, they
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: had a shut out. Their defense was outstanding. I just
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: watched the game, Paul. Last week, they were outstanding. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: can't say enough good things about the defense last week. Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the previous two weeks were not improvements. I just watched
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the game, right, So I'm asking you what you're judging
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it on it just what I see. So what was
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the improvement that you saw? That's what I'm asking. I
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: just see guys. If guys aren't out of position, I
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: think I think were they out of position? In the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Miami they're playing much more solid defense. But based on like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying, my eyes, But you're saying
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: they're improving, my eyes, they're improving based off of what
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking, my eye from what I see
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: from the Miami game to the to the Baltimore game. Yes,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you told me that against Miami they were great defensively,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Well not again, and they got thirty seven to said,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I said, they did a great job minimizing the yards
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: after catched by guys like and then two weeks later
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: they gave up thirty seven Baltimore. I thought they did
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a good job in that game. That right, But then
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you said they've improved. So two weeks later they get
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: up thirty seven. Was that an improvement over Miami? What
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: was the running totals in that game against Baltimore? Yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you have two hundred yards. Yeah, but when they get
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: up another two hundred yards the next week against Green Bay. Yeah,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: but you have to look at it in context, it
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't okay, So they didn't improve. I think they are.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I think they are. Last week they're not. They're not
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: getting gashed the way they were. She went out to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: here to go to practice. Yeah, they're getting Last week,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: they did not get gashed. I will agree with you
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: they I think last week was a tremendous defensive effort.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: They did not get gashed. In the running game. They
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: gave golf absolutely nothing. They would dominant. Yeah, but the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: previous two weeks that wasn't the case. I can just
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: tell you that I'm seeing guys playing better. Guys playing
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: better last week. I agree, No, every week. It's I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: just don't understand how you comment that based on those
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: two others. Was just based on the numbers, Paul, It's no,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: It's based on the performance. Yeah, this is what I'm
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: asking you. What what did you see? I'm asking you
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: what did you see besides like guys lining up right,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm seeing guys making plays, not getting pushed around
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: like they were, you know earlier. So I'm telling you
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: they're getting better. Was my one. God Shaws, you know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I like I said, I wish a guy was in there,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: but I think god Shaw's playing well. I think, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the problem before was linebackers weren't really helping out. They
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: weren't filling in behind. That's starting to get better last week,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I would agree, you know, I think I can't argue
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: with that's starting to get better. But I think the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: guys up front, you know, Deuce's guys on the line
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: are playing pretty well last week. Outstanding. Yeah, I totally
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I just don't agree on the Baltimore
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: and Green Bay games. I don't think they played well
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: defensively in those house. I know, I mean, and and
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, I but Baltimore though, I just
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: they got Lamar. I mean, that's why I like this.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Take out Lamar's numbers, and I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: mean you can't. It was still really bad. I know
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: you hadn't take them out. I know you can't take
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: out the numbers, but you know, that's tough, it's unique.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It's hard to judge the whole defense off of Lamar.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Lamar's a lot of people, and this is kind of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: what my point is, Like, this is the only reason why,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like I kind of snooped up at Mike, who was
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: downplaying Cleveland's at a quosity. We can sit there and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: tell you everybody's you know, it was Joe Flacco against
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the Jet. Yeah, they stink. And when you have played
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't stink, you've looked bad, right like it
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: was Lamar Jackson. Okay, I'll make sure that we don't
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: play any good quarterbacks that can make plays so the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: defense can pitch shutouts. This week is gonna this is
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: right exactly. He's good. You couldn't match up. That's fine.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think that this is probably gonna be. There's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be a time when you're gonna face other
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks who were good, and I hope by then they're
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: making strides and well, you don't think you'll face a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: quarterback as good as Lamar Jack's not that style. I mean,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I think I think Allen who was a hundred times
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: better than Josh Allen, but Aaron Rodgers. I mean, they
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: did all right, that's another MV do all right. This
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: is my point that teams scored way more points than
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: they normally score. They did all right, Okay, I mean
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: we could just say they well, okay, I mean he
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: made some throws, but I mean that's another MVP. Aaron
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Rodgers did not make anything. He thought it was the
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: run game. Yes, they done. It was not that nothing
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to do with Aaron Rodgers, I know. But what is
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: saying Aaron Rodgers. Are we talking about defense or just
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: like Jack Jones. No, but Aaron Rodgers didn't beat them.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: They did a good job against Aaron Right, And why
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: do you think that they get up so many yards
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: rushing because they were focused on stopping Aaron rod exactly.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And you don't have to worry about that against some
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: other teams who can't do anything to beat you. That
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: was like last week. That was the choice that they
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: made in that game. That was the game plan. We're
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna sacrifice rushing yards and make sure that
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: we don't let I just don't tell me that allowing
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a team that averages sixteen points a game twenty seven
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: is good defense. That's all I ask. Well, and that's
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: all I'm asking only twenty four. Yeah, and if not
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: for a drop touchdown passing with two minutes left, it
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: would have been thirty one. Right. You don't think they
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: have other drops. They didn't do anything to stop that play, correct, Yeah,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I think the Patriot I think the defense is getting
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: better every week. I really do. Well, all right, I
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: understand that you believe it. I'm just asking you to
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: explain why from what I see. Just like guys making cake,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I can just use the force two guys, just like
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: make stuff up guys. I see it what I sent.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I see dugger getting better every every week. Last week
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I saw a defense that played in an entirely different
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: way than they did the previous two games, and they
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: completely snuffed out what I think is a really good offense.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I would give that as a mic argument against me
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and say, I think the Lions are pretty good on
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: an offense, and they made them look pretty bad. Yeah,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that to me is an improvement defensively. And I think
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I think in week one they couldn't have done that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I think they've been getting better every week. Okay, they
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: couldn't have done it anything. And I think, you know
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: when they couldn't have done it in week three or
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: four either. And I think part of it is, like
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I said earlier, Steve Belichick and Gerard Mayo understanding, Okay,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: who are who do we have on? You know what
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you do when you don't really have anything tangible? You
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: go on. You go on things that are completely subjective.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's Steve Belichick and Gerard May understand. Yeah,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I can't argue. I can't argue that Paul Paul. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: can't argue. I can't argue with Paul makes no idea.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Paul makes fun of all the stats, geeks. Unless he
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: was making fun, I'm not making I'm not giving you
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: any stats. I'm giving you performance. That's it's the other
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: team moved the ball at will and score points. That's all.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: That's not at you think green Bay you move the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: ball at will from the second half on, yes, okay,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: but not the first half. They got off to a
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: slow start offensively in the first half. Why the Patriots
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: defense played well in the first half. I said, go
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: back and listen to the post. And last week they
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: put a game together. We're both halfs they played. So
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: they're getting better. They're getting better. You told me they
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: got better in the green Bay game. I think they
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: were better in green Bay then they were the week before, right, yes,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: they were, So they're getting better. They were, but they
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: weren't better than they were against Pittsburgh. Well Pittsburgh stinks, Okay,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I mean I do take some things at the consideration.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Who I think they were better than I think they
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: were better against green Bay than they were against Baltimore.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I do, Okay, I do evidence of getting better. And
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I think they were better from green Bay to Baltimore.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the Baltimore and Green Bay games.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: But did they get They weren't better in the Baltimore
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: or Green Bacon and they were against Miami. Did they
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: get better after Baltimore and after Baltimore, Yes, I'd have
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: to say, and they got better after that. But they're
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: getting better, but they got out, but they got worse
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: from Miami in Pittsburgh to Baltimore and green Bay. They
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: got worse in those two games from the first two games.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Then they bounced back and got better. Okay, I'm like
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm gonna I'm sticking to my guns.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I think this defense is getting better. I think the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: coaches are understanding who they are. I think they're putting
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: him in the positions. You know, this guy does this well,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: he doesn't do that well, Let's not put him in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: that position anymore. They're finding out what works for the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: personnel that they have week by week. And I think
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's getting better and by the time they
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: played Josh Allen, maybe maybe maybe they'll be able to
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: put up a fight hopefully maybe. Yeah, maybe, though I won't,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I'll stop hijack on this show. No, let's I think
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it's good for the video, right, we need we need
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: a little yeah, a little little drama, little fireworks. It's
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it's fine, Yeah, it's you know, I still haven't found
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: out why, but I'll let it go. Well, I mean,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't rely on numbers. I look at at
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: what I keep telling me. You think the coaches are
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: putting guys in positions to see like, how about an exam?
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Don't need to remember about an example? I remember last
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: year guys would just like out of position, like just
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you know, big running place again, how about an example,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I like, I don't have like it in front of me.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I just like you said, I look at the whole game,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: and I just remember guys with their backs to the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: play because they're guessing wrong or they're you know, and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: just being kind of like Jawan Bentley shooting a gap
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and having the ball go by him. Yeah, that that's
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that's that's an example. Okay, So then I can use
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: an example of Dugger, you know, shedding three blockers to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: make a tackle for loss right, But is that coaching?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: He's in the right position, He's he's there to make
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the play. You know, he smells like he's being coached up.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: He's like, this is what's happening here, you know, reading
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: the play and recognizing it and reacting. I think there's
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: something too coaching there, but also putting the right guys
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: in the right position to make plays. You know, you know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you can't say Dugger's not improving. I think Dougger's a
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: good player. Yeah. I didn't say anything about Tugger, but
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: he's Judean is playing well. You know, I think, you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the defensive player of the week this week, you know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: first time this year. He's getting better. You know, you're
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Fred. I mean I think, I think surprise,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I think takes, I think the Pau's point. There have
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: been up and downs with a lot of elements, but overall,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's what you would Listen. I said it's
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a perfect game. I think it was good. I think
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Sunday was outstanding. I don't know how many different times
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I can tell you how impressed I was with the defense.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: On Sunday, I spent my whole hour with felgrad Mas telling.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: All I said is I think they're getting better, and
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you're saying, no, they're not, because they got better Sunday, Fred,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: like this, like incremental improvement that you're talking about, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: disagree with. I'm sorry that I don't see it the
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: same way. Okay, you do. I'm sorry. I don't understand
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: what the defensive game plan is because I don't know
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: enough about that to credit the coaches for putting guys
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: in positions to hide their weaknesses. I don't know what
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: they I don't know anything that they've to do that.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I believe every game they go in with a game plan. No,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I do too, I just don't know what it is
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and when it will and you obviously do you know.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: So I can't argue with you. You're you're talking about
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: something completely subjective that I can't quanta. I don't understand it,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: so you know more about it than I do. What
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: do you want me to tell you? Okay? I mean
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that's fair. I mean I can't. I can't. I can't
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: make it any play that When you started talking about
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Belichick and Mayo putting guys in positions more effectively than
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: they did last year. I can't argue with you. I
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: can't tell you I'm talking about. I can't tell you're wrong.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I have no idea I'm talking about as a season,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: go right. I can't and I can't argue with that
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: because I don't have anything tangible to point to. I
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: asked for some examples. You didn't have any. We'll move on.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can go and list all the good
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: plays this year. Is that what you want? No? But like,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: is a good play like Matthew jude On stripped Jared Goff,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Is that's because of like Gerard Mayo and Steve Belichick
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: putting in a position to succeed. He made a great play.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: But they're not putting jude On in and every play,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like he's what he's doing, Like what sixty
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: the snaps in that game he did? Yeah, you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: So there's some thinking behind that. Okay, So that's why
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I said I thought the defense was better Sunday. Okay,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: But there's some thinking. But there is no evidence of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: these things that you're talking about going on in the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: previous two games. I think there is. They didn't win
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that you know they didn't shut down a team like
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: they did on Sunday, but I think there is evidence
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: of guys figuring it out and getting better. I really do, well, Paul,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about them carrying that performance over
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: into next week? Though? I mean, that's not the heart
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: of it. You don't feel like they're gonna me. I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: went down, I fell for the tailpipe last year. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: think it'll be fine this week because you're playing another
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: team that can't do that. But eventually you're going to
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: see good quarterbacks when you have to worry about both things.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: And then I worry. Yeah, And like I said, by then,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance they could stop Buffalo zero.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Fred obviously has hope that they'll be better by then,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: right right, I don't. Right now, there's no way they
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: would be Buffalo And maybe by then they haven't improved enough.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Even by then, they'll be borrowing a rash of injuries.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: They ain't slowing Buffalo down. No, that's I look more
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: to the offensive side. Not to change the subject, but like, well,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: they can't. For me. That's like, you're not gonna start,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna I'm not, like I know, I come
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: off as being, you know, ridiculously stubborn and come off
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: that way. I'm not trying to do that. And I
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: thought they played great trying I thought they played great
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. You think they played like they did on
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Sunday every game. That's what we disagree. Did I ever
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: say that? I did I say they're improving? There was
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: nothing that I did. I say what they played the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: same way Sunday. It's the rest of the season. Did
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I ever say that? Did I? You said they were
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: improving every week? Does that mean everything? I disagreed with? Okay,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: h yeah, all right. I think people are enjoying this though. Yeah,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: there we go. We got nice We got a nice
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: a nice little illustration there and the next big thing
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• 51:48
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• 51:51
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• 52:03
  Speaker 1: to Leon and Wisconsin. What's up Leon. I don't know
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: if you guys tosted on this already, but with Dadian
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Harris out, um, who are we going to compliment Mandre
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Stevenson in the backfield. Are we gonna possibly elevate Pierre Strong,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: J J. Taylor or do something like we did in
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to bring someone like Stephen Jackson into the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: running hole Groom, No, I think they'll go with what
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: they've got, and you know, all the guys you just
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: mentioned are candidates, and probably JJ Taylor because of his experience.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: But wouldn't surprise me to see Pierre Strong activated as well,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, well, I mean yeah, I definitely feel
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  Speaker 1: like this would be the perfect situation. If we had
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  Speaker 1: James White still, it would be would be pretty solid
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: there as well. But with time Montgomery out as well,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: that kind of hurts, Yes, it does. Yeah, we all
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: thought he'd be might be a factor this year. Yeah,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we'll see, there's still time. Thanks Leon. All Right, we're
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  Speaker 1: from practice. It's a catchy jingle in the video feed.
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  Speaker 1: We're all just yea and looking at our phones. So
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  Speaker 1: Evan give us the four one one. Another day and
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  Speaker 1: another day of perfect attendance on the fifty three man
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  Speaker 1: roster for the Patriots. Everybody practiced in some capacity yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Even Damien Harris was listed as limited. Mac Jones limited
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: again yesterday. Looks like he's doing the same things or
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: similar things out there Todaynee brace on, flip card on
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: this flappy flapping around, flapping around, so you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: no lower pads today, just shells and shorts or sweats
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  Speaker 1: or whatever they feel like wearing. So perfect attendants on
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  Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. Little Jordan Humphrey is back
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  Speaker 1: in the building. Not sure he ever really left. He
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  Speaker 1: had a locker in the locker room yesterday and he
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: was back out there at practice today. Kicker Tristan Viscayano
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  Speaker 1: missing from the practice squad. So if you added up
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: connect the dots, sounds like Viscayano has lost a spot
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: on the practice squad and little Jordan Humphrey has taken
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  Speaker 1: the spot. Okay, sorry, yeah, backup, kicker. Okay, folks, been
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  Speaker 1: great and uh overcast today out the overcast not raining yet,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: but they are projecting rain later on in practice, and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: my understanding is that the team will be staying out
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: there for practice in the rain if it does indeed rain.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: So unlike last week when we went inside the bubble,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: no no bubble in the rain today? Yeah. Was there
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  Speaker 1: a large media contingency or it was good media contingency.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are coming for this
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: quarterback thing for the end. They just want what we're
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: watching right now on NBC Sports Boston, Mac Jones throwing
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: the football to some equipment manager or something like that,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: not to pick on the guy catching the ball, just saying,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not to a receiver and it's against air.
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  Speaker 1: But this is enough for people right now. Yeah. So
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: when you combine the media being interested in what Max's
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: gonna do, and you know, the overcast weather in shells,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: what would you say the mood is I would say
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: the mood is a little bit shoulder pats ancy fancy,
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  Speaker 1: because I think that this quarterback. I keep calling it
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  Speaker 1: a thing because I can't really think. I don't want
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: to call it a controversy because I think that's going
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: way too far, So let's call it a thing. I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: think that some people last night, just a little inside baseball,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: we waited quite a while for mister Zappi to come
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  Speaker 1: to the podium after locker room closed, and I think
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  Speaker 1: there are some feelings out there that are you know,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: let's see what happens here. Let's let's get to Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: And I always wonder, like, what's the message that Belichick
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: is giving the team from week to week? And we
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: know that after the twenty nine nothing when you know,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: he was in pretty good mood, you know, after the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: game on Monday, even you know yesterday day, he was
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: a pretty good move. But I'm sure he's trying to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: level set his team, making sure that nothing in that game,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: you know, gets carried over in terms of cockiness, you know.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure that he's making sure that this is
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: you know, we're still not that good. Yeah, we still
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: have a long way to go. It's a new kind
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: of team too. I think he's got to push the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: right buttons. But I just observation real quick is we're
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: showing some of the practice. Of course they go right
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: away from it, but it seemed to me like Mac
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: had his shoulder pads on the other two guys just
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: had kind of shells underneath. I mean, I don't know
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: if that's that seems like a weird Mac thing to me,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: like something he would do where he's like, no, I'm
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: wearing my pats today. Yeah, maybe just that's something something
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: that's something that I wonder too. You know, he hasn't
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: played in a game in a couple of weeks, so
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: how much has he been wearing the shoulder pads, So
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: if he's trying to gear it back up, maybe throwing
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: in the pads like Brady would always throw in the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: pads right, like even in the off season in his
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: backyard you see the TV twelve stuff, and he'd be
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: in full shoulder pads because that's what you play. That's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a point, yeah, you know't playing shells. So I think
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: it's significant. I mean, I think it says something about
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, things seem like they're definitely ramping up and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: and he's maybe making some strides to make sure. Listen,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm the coaches, I don't start Mac
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: unless he can run around and avoid the rush. If
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: he's limited anyway in that respect, Yeah, I'm not. I'm
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: not playing him, but just have a little that's just
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: me like a little team game of tag, and like
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: if he can't get away, then you know you're out.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: If you can win tag. Right now, it's like old
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: school yeahs to wrench all right? Any other anything else
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: you want to add Evan before just on those lines.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I hate to be a body language doctor, but just
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: based off of his look, just how he's throwing the ball,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: how he's carried himself, it's different than what we saw
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: last week. What does that mean anything? I have no
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: idea what. I guess we'll find out on Sunday. But
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: it's different in terms of like his focus right, Like
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: you can kind of see that Mac, that Macy back
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: out there where he's kind of got that that confidence
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: in that swagger back a little bit and isn't just
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: kind of limping around out there and going through the motions.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: So I definitely think that he feels closer, and whether
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: it's this week or next week or whatever, I guess
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: we'll ultimately be a probably a Belichick. So Zappy talked yesterday,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: which means the quarterback you know, the mandatory quarterback talk.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: You know, press conference is done, so you know they
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: don't have to Mac doesn't have to talk this week,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: and if he starts, they could say, well, you know,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: at the time Wednesday, you know he wasn't ready, but
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: now he's ready and he's our starter. Yeah, I mean limited.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I mean tomorrow's injury report is always an interesting moment
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: if they're gonna roll anybody out. I mean two weeks
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: ago they did rule Mac out, but I think last
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: two geek he's doubtful. Um, so we'll see. Maybe he
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: gets to questionable on Friday and then and then he's
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: got a chance. It could be a big week for
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: the Saturday downgrade. Oh yeah, because it's travel if you know, right, yeah,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: you'll get that people. If people don't know when you're
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: the traveling team, if a player doesn't travel, you have
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: to downgrade him to out that Saturday. You can't wait
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: until the Sunday report. You have to tell everybody that
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: the player didn't travel and thus he's out. Yeah, we
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: spoke to Zappy yesterday, like you said, and a couple
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: of questions. You know that the media is going to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: come right at him and be like, so you started
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: on Sunday or what? And he was asked, you know,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: are you preparing to be the starter? You know, what's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: sort of the vibe? What are they kind of asking
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: you to do at practice this week? And all he
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: would say was taking advantage of the reps they're giving
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: me and doing trying to help the team. However, I
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: can you know things like that? And I thought, and
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: the good Lord willing right. A couple of weeks ago,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I would say, I think it was probably after Baltimore,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: after Mac's original injury. He gave a more convincing answer
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: of you know, I always prepare to be the starter
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: even when I'm not going to be the starter type
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: of answer. This week, it was just taking the reps
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: they're giving me. So I don't know. I think that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: there is a little bit going on there that Mac
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: is trying to creep back in. Okay, I wish you
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: were there to ask him what the mood was. That
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: would have probably been you could have gotten out of him,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: probably Billy. What was the mood? Oh yeah, somebody asked
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: him if Mac was taking reps at practice and he's like,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: that's a question for coach Beligian. Nope, nope, not getting
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: in trouble. All right, eight five five Passive Hotline. We'll
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: take some more calls and emails before pick start in
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: a few moments. We'll start with Sean and Vancouver. What's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: up Sean? Hey, fred, I got a couple of things.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: One question for Evan. I really like your polo shirt.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I'm looking on the Thank You pat store and I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: can't really figure out what exactly which one end is though.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can said it's a Tommy
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Bahama take that guy on social media attacks her outfit
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: with the with the pat Patriot logo. Yeah, is a gift.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: You look fantastic. I have to ask, who are you wearing?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Tommy b Okay, there is a Tommy Bahama one on there,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: so I look. The other thing I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about is moving prod it running back Stevenson I think
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: gives the Patriots a better look when even though I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: like Harris, I think he's great, great, you know, power
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: back and he hits the holes hard. It's just I
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots are less predictable with Stevenson being the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: lead back because you can't really determine if they're going
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: to be doing some play action or they're they're going
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: to be running or passing at that point where you know,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: you see Stevenson at times sometimes even run from the shotgun,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: where Harris wouldn't do that. So I think for that
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: reason you find that maybe there's less pressure coming at
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: at zappy because the blitz isn't as strong since they're
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: not defenses aren't really determining right at the look what's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: going to happen? What do you think? I don't know
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: the amount of times that you know, you know, Harris
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: first Stevenson out of the shotgun and there's an inside
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: handoff or a draw something like that. I don't know
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: the numbers, but it doesn't seem like, you know, Stevenson
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: right now is a big threat to catch the ball yet,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: you know, not like James White was. Yeah, downfield, I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: mean some little like slip out and you know, check
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: down kind of stuff, but yeah he does. He's lined
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: up wide a couple of times though, right maybe a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: few ye his splits are fifty seven forty three pass
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: right in favor of the pass. So he's been on
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: the field more for passing plays than running plays Harris.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: That would not be the case with last year. Harris
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: was sixty percent run on the snaps that he played,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: so definitely more involved in the passing. He definitely more
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: involved on third down. He's already outsnapped Harris all last
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: year on third down in the first five weeks of
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: the season. So you're using Stevenson a lot more in
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: passing game situations. I think the one time where other
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: than screens, because he caught that screen last week against
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: the Troy, made like three guys missed. It was a
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: good play. He had an angle route over the middle
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: against Green Bay where he was a shoe string tackle.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: He was really close to breaking it, and I think
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: that was probably the best route that I've seen him run,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Like shake a guy at the top of the route,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: get yourself open and get into a potential, you know,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: space opportunity. He just got tackled. You know. People have
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: said it, and I'm probably Bill would agree. He's definitely
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: established himself as an every down back he can be
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: that well. It was a huge area of emphasis in
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: the offseason was thanks to make sure that they were
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: throwing with Harris and Stevenson on the field more than
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: they did last year, to be less predictable. And I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: don't really, I mean, it's great if you can get
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: those guys involved as receivers obviously, you know, I guess,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: especially a guy like Stevenson, you get him in space,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: that slant that Evan's talking about against Green Bay would
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: looked like it was a hair away from being a
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: really big play. But I don't. I'm not as worried
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: about them catching the ball as I am that they're
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: throwing the ball when they're on the field, and I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: think they have done that more this year, and the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: numbers for Stevenson obviously back there. Yeah, I mean, just
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: even some of the early snaps, like in the second
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: half where they went, you know, six ozl Andy brought
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: cannon on play action, you know, trying to hit guys.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it seems like they're or whatever.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: I just I'm curious what it's going to look like
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: now with with Harris presumably out. Yeah, you know, how
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: do they how do they divvy up the roles? We've
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: been talking. Yeah, I mean you want Stevenson to be
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: available in December, so yeah, you have to think about that.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to give them thirty five carries,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: you know, until Harris gets better. You have to figure
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: it out. I mean it must be attempting with with
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: you know what you've seen from Cleveland's run defense. But
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's why I'll be a little disappointed.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, no offense to J. J. Taylor, but you know,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: just you drafted those two guys. I would love to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: see one of those two rookies, you know, just get
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: a chance get their feet wet. I mean, we've seen
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: the success that some of the rookies have had getting
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: their feet wet, Marcus Jones as an example lately, you know,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: getting slowly involved a little bit, would be great to
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: get you know, one of those guys. Just I mean,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: even if it like we said yesterday, Harris with the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: early down stuff, just don't fumble all or else you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: might not see the ball again until next year. Yeah,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: it's a I think it's funny though, because the predictability
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: thing is always something that I hear. But their numbers
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: are actually terrific. With Damien Harris even as predictable as
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: he was last year on the field because the play action,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: because teams are expecting run because he's sixty percent run,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: and then you hit him with the play action, and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: even though he's not catching the ball or really a
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: big factor in the passing game, they were really efficient
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: off of play actions. So in some ways the tell
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: can work in their favor because everybody's selling out against
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: the run and then you hit him with the fake
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it goes over their heads.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: But I hear people when they say that it's a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: little bit predictable, But I think there is a little
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: bit of a method to the madness in the early
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: down sequencing Mike's and Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike? How
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: are you doing? How's everybody doing? Today's great good? I
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: have to agree. I see Romandi out there, and I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: don't know if anybody else that's the same thing. Whenever
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: I see him get the ball. The first thing that
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: comes from ears like Ron wrong run and the affiliate
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: they just have to move around and just thinks a
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: lot more aggressive and assertive when he's out there. Um
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: just trying to get down fields and make them most
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: out of every single yard, and now you're starting to
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: see hesitation from the from the defensive players that are
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: coming over to head. But the one thing that I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: want to and I'm glad Evan is there because I
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: send um, I don't know a tone that I can't
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: really um pin down when he says, I don't know
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: what but what people see out there regarding Bailey versus Max,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: And the more I see of Bailey and Paul and
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Evan may laugh at this, like the more I think
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: there's something about the way the team operates, the way
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: the the offense looks, is there's something specific, Dude, do
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: we see practice every day? We don't, But there's just
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: a feeling out there when he is playing that just
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: lose a little bit more efficient, a little bit more effective,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: like things are going the way that they're supposed to,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: and there's not that sense of dread of that just
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: don't make a mistake, Just don't make a mistake, Whereas
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: in the last couple of games from MAC, I've been
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: looking at it and you know, it's like, just don't
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you know, just play safe, just be smart, just be smart.
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  Speaker 1: And I just don't feel like I don't I can't
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: qualify it, but I just don't have those thoughts running
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: through my head when I see Bailey out there. How
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: did how did you feel about Mac last year? Though?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, have you you've just the last couple of
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: games is what you've have made you lost confidence in
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Mac and made you feel like you just want him
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: to avoid mistakes. Um. I thought there was a lot
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: of managing um obviously at the beginning of the season,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: not letting him throw the ball along and stuff like that.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if if McDaniels or the team
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: ever actually came out at any pointy time and admitted
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: it that they were throwling him down, like just limiting
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: his options. But then maybe he just got a little
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: too too loose, I don't know, maybe a little too
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: confident with the offense or confidence in in his ability.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: But um, it just started at the end of last
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: year even at the beginning of this year, like I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: just don't feel comfortable with him out there. And I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: don't know if it might be the poppy with fan
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: or well there I'm with you. I just how can
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: you say thanks that they manage the games last year
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: for Mac and that's why he was less turnover prone,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: but then not say they're managing the game for Baylor,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: right right. It disappointed me. I think there was a
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: chance that we could have got an even explosion. No,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: but I just I think I think max Max mistakes
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: this year are you know, a result of you know,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: making more chance, making more plays, make it, Yeah, trying
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: to make more plays. Some I think some of them
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: too are some of them are Some of them are bad,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: you know, but I point stands trying to get it downfield.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's something they had to do.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I just want to see what's it looked like with Thord.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: The first pick in the Baltimore game was really bad.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: That was the when the linebacker was there and I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: don't think he ever saw the line. You threw it
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: right to a linebacker. Wasn't a great play design? Sorry,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: yeah no, but I'm just saying, you still gotta you
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: can't just throw the ball now when there's a guy
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: standing and you threw it right to a guy and
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: the other team. The other plays I don't really look
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: at is like wild interceptions the way a lot of
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: other people And now I feel like I'm turning into
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: a macapologist and I've never been there. Well remember how
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: the season started. But he throws the interception in the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: end zone, right, it was you know, it was a
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: bad throw. It under thrown, and that mindset for the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: fans carries over, you know, that mistake and oh then
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: he has another mistake, you know. But my my bigger
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: thing is not about Mac. It's about Zappy and what
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: you know. And I know that the caller was directing
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: at Evan and I don't you know, he can speak
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: for himself, but like the whole notion that you keep saying,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: what are you seeing? Yeah, from Zappy? And what I
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: see is like a lack of production in general. So like,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: I can't tell a guy how to feel. And the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: guy says he feels no dread, like no one asked
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: him to do anything. I like. But part of that
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: is but that's fine. He felt dread when Mack was
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: out there, and he did. He doesn't feel that when
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Zappy was, except for they scored points in the Baltimore
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: game and they really haven't scored any points on offense
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: and when when Zappi's played, I'm not blaming Zappy for that.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: He's a third string quarterback playing his first couple of games.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: They obviously have a very tight leash on him, but
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: they're not really moving the ball and scoring points all that. Well,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: They're kicking some field goals here and there on short fields.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: That's about it. Against against Baltimore, I thought they played
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: really well offensively, And yes, they made some mistakes which
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: which cost them a chance to ultimately win the game.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: But I would take the plays they made in the
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Baltimore game over anything I've seen the last two games
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: offensively easily. Yeah, let's go to Jim and Connecticut. What's
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: up Jim? Hey Fred, how are you doing? Love the show?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: I just want to make a point quick of all,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Paul being my brothers relationship where we have knocked down
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: you shoulder a few minutes later. Yeah, oh yeah. Um,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I just want to make some points about the defense
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: about this year. I thought the defense is okay, and
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: during the Baltimore game, actually, um, you know, the defense
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: didn't played great. But also you know, I have some
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: turnover to stuff. But um, I thought the kind of
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: it played competitive to a really good team, and I
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: thought that was good. But um the thing about that
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: game that I think hurts too is I think Dugger
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: was out and I think he would have helped a
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: lot of help and cover Mark Mark Daniels a tight
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: end for Baltimore. Can't hurt having him in Andrews. Mark
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Daniels is tough like every game pretty much mostly like
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: yeah him and Phillips. Yeah, yeah, all right. I think
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: he certainly would have helped with Lamar Jackson's running because
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: I think he's an excellent tackler. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: the defense though, has like starting to get a base
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: of young players now, like Barmore and Jones. But I think,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: what do you guys think about it? I'm not big
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: on free agent, but what do you think about like
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: a rope Clan Smith, it's a free agent because getting
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: the young linebackers almost like a Stefan Gilmore. We pay
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: too much too early, but then in time it's a
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: better um value later on. Yeah, I mean, I'd be
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: all for it. I just I wonder how this is
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: all gonna how this is all gonna play and into
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: next year with you know what do they see this
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: year out of mac wilson and McMillan and to buy
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: and all these guys are on one year deals, so
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to rejigger this linebacker group somewhat. Well,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about Week six. Yeah, me too, But Roquin
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: is not really their type of linebacker that's saying. I mean,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: why is that he's undersized? You know, he's a great player.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not a good player. I just
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe the mac Wilson signing
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: or trade it kind of signals that they're at least
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: looking at a different prototype at linebacker. But they can't
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: get mac Wilson on the field because of his you know,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: issues that they knew schematically they probably were going to have.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's great player. I just don't
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: know paying that guy that kind of money when he
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't really fit what you do is the best idea,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: And I like, you know me, Fred, I'd never care
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: about the money. I'm not sure how much money, because
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: it is kind of a position that doesn't break the bank. Yeh,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, you're looking at double digits at least.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I mean if you want a player,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that kind of like bass. I mean,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: get double digits to Nelson Aggalore, god sakes, I mean, yeah,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Williams and fellam. What's up William what's going on for it?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Okay? Um? Just two questions
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: an I'm out your way. One is, um, can you
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: give me a player that you would want on the
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: team though I were a position, like a realistic you
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: know if as a trade whatever, who you would want though,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: just realistic think of it like you're being Bill Billichick,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: be like, who would you want on the team for
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: trade this year? Like before the deadline? Or like are
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: you including like next year? Two? Yeah, you could say, well,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: now I'm gonna say I'm gonna stick to this year.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: So something before the deadline this year? Right, God, there's
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of names out there, Like I'm trying to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: think like realistically though. So there's a name that I
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: threw out there yesterday on the on Catch twenty two
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: check it out two to three pm Wednesdays. Uh. That
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: is on Carolina. Interesting situation going on there, Derek Brown,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: nose tackle on the Panthers, former seventh overall pick, not
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: living up to that billing because he's a nose tackle
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: and let's face it, he's not gonna put up the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: stats that people want. A seventh overall pick to put up.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: But he's got the two gap nose tackle mold down
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: to a t. Here. You're not looking for him to
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: be a top ten type of production guy. And I
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: really think ultimately, I think as a good player no
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: matter where you lie him up. But I think ultimately
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: he's better off the nose than he is on the nose.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Might be able to free him up. And you got
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: the twenty eighth ranked run defense in the league by
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: dv Oa. You had another three hundred and thirty pound
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: guy in the middle of the defense. It's only going
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: to help with that problem. So if there's anybody on
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: the Panthers roster that I think all the talk about
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: wide receivers is ridiculous, they don't. They already have too
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: many wide Receivershi Banning, Robbie Anderson in and I don't
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: think those guys would represent a demonstrative improvement, right. And
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I like DJ Moore, but you don't like how much
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: better was he than all the guys you have, right?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I would look at Derek Brown. I know
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: they also really like to take those guys that they
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to get in the draft. I'm
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: sure that they love his former first round I am
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: sure they had Derek Brown granted out extremely highly coming
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: out of Auburn, just the way he plays. What year
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: he's in his fourth year, ninth, so he has that
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: kid chair off. He was there when we went to
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: the first combine. Yeah, I just got my first inkling.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Like I listen, I know Carolina is probably going to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: be selling off a lot of pieces, but I'm not
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: sure it makes a lot of sense to sell young pieces.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: But he might be far enough along that he could
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: be available. I mean, what position would you go to though,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, just looking at the Patriots roster, not even
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: considering a specific not necessarily wanting to bring up the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Roquan Smith thing, but like I would love an athletic
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: inside linebacker. M So maybe Bentley's not playing as much.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: But you know, like I don't know how realistic, you know,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to like really like that's a realistic
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: option that Evan gave there with Derek. Like that, that's
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: a kind of guy that I could see Bill being
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: interested in. He loves former first round picks that don't
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: pan out because he can get more out of them,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: and he would like odd front nose tackle. That's Derek
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Brown's role. But Bentley's tough because Jonathan Sullivan's rule to him.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: He certainly has some limitations in coverage and we in space,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: we all know that. But they need a linebacker, especially
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: they're running a lot of this you know, five one
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: front where there's really only one true inside linebacker off
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: the ball, and they need somebody that can play A
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: and B gap and hold up. And if like hold up,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: I mean that that's kind of not necessarily in line
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: with the ex's knows that you were just talking all
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: but just that position. I think I think that they
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: rolled the dice and said we don't need it in
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: the draft. And most of the guys that I think
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: they were looking at feeling big roles have yet to
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: really feel a big role. I think is emergent promising, yeah,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, and maybe ray Kwon McMillan's quiet
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: start was was more health related, and maybe he I mean,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: he made a play the other day. So maybe you
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: get more out of those two guys, say, in two weeks,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: than you did in the previous three. It's just tough
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: because if you're going to play this style of defense
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: is three three five that they're playing, you're leaving the
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: guards uncovered on the line of scrimmage. And so if
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: you have a two hundred and thirty pound linebacker at
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: the second level and they're pulling guards towards them, it's
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: game over. So the only guy that they had, I mean,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I think McMillan, he showed he had one or two
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: plays last week where he was able to blow up
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: a puller or a guy climbing to the second level
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: and make a play. One of them he shot the gap.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: So those are plays that maybe that he can start
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: to emerge a little bit more because he has a
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: little bit of a downhill thump to him as well.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: But if you're going to play this kind of system
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna put a two hundred and twenty five
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: linebacker there at the second level, it's not going to
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: work out. I mean, they need to have somebody there
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: that can take on blocks. I know that frustrates some people,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: but but I mean, is it too much to ask
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: that they can take on blocks and make plays like
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. I feel like Bentley's great
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: at taking on blocks, but he just don't get off.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, they don't make plays, you know, like it's fine,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: you just we need a kamikaze to run into guards,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: like you know, but like at a certain point, like
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: where I'm getting to is like, you know, and I
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: think that McMillan play you talked about where it was like, hey,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: met a guy in the hole, shed them made the tackle,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Like why did that look so novel to me? You know,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't happen enough. You talk about what their rank lasting.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're thirty second in stuffed runs,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: so you know, like they're not making places behind the
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage at the terrible rate. So I don't
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: know that's that's just I mean, I get everything you're
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: saying about with the style they're playing. I just the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: frustrating thing for me is that linebackers don't make plays.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: And this is where I'm I will side with Fred
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: like that their numbers are terrible in that, but I
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: saw improvement in that area certainly. I mean to I
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: think they had I don't know how many, but the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: fourth and one. It's just hard loss if you have
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: I think the point I agree with you totally Mike,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: that they don't make enough splash plays at the second
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: level from the linebacker group. But the problem is is
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: that it's like, you know, a chicken or the egg
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: situation because they need the two hundred and fifty five
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: pound linebacker to plug the being a gaps against the
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: run because of the style of front that they're playing.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: But that those guys don't have playmaking. They don't have speed, right,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: they don't have the playmaking qualities that other guys have.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: So what I find interesting is they they trade for
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: a guy like Mac Wilson, for example, but they didn't
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: change the front, like they didn't change the side with right.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: They're just asking him to deal with it essentially. So
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: that's the problem is like how many people are walking
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: on this planet that are two hundred and sixty pounds
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: that can also grange sideline to sideline and also cover
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: and also take on blocks Like I think Prime Jamie
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Collins is like a cyborg in that respect, right that
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: he was able to do all those things. He wasn't
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: a great run player now because of yeah, because of
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: his his play recognition, but those are the things that
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't have it one way or another.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: And like a teams that have these lighter linebackers typically
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: play out of a four to three so that they
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: can get more guys to cover gaps on the line
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And the Patriots are three fourteen. All right,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: one more call and then we'll get to the picks.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Will's in the barber shop. What's up, Will? Are you
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: doing guys? You getting the junior boys regular? Yes, sir? Okay.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: So I just have two points I want to touch
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: on today. One of them is I really like what
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: they did with the offensive line last week. I believe
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: that they were stacking Isaiah When and MICUs Cannon on
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: one side, and Cannon was reporting as eligible to help
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: with the run. I thought that was really really awesome
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: to help them, you know, move the ball on the
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: ground a lot more. Yep. And I think that the
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: second point I wanted to make was, you know, the
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: friend point, like they're gonna throw all their progressions early on.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: I think everybody's just losing their shirt over Bailey z Appy,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: and I think they just need to pump the brakes
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. I think Mac Jones is
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: a much more capable quarterback at this point. And I
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: just think that people have such recency bias against Mac
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: Jones that they're just really kind of blindfolded by I know,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. Yeah, that's why it's a good thing
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: that we have people who know what they're looking at
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: running the team and not the fans. Yeah kidding, I
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: heard all reaching the show. Yeah all right, well thanks, well,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: appreciate your calling in. All right, it's that time of
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: the week. Follow what happened last week? All right? Last
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: week Fred back from the dead twelve and four, don't
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: get too excited, followed by Mike and Paul at eleven
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: and five, five and Evan ten and six. So a
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: good week, So a good week for everybody. Last week
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: we're all solid winning record with the spread. Mike and
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: Paul nine six and one, Evan six nine and one,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: and Fred five ten and one. How does that? How
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: did that happen? It's not a good year. That's got
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: to be very rare when somebody wins the straight up
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: but then a dead last in the Wow. Listen for example,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: that I picked the Patriots to not cover. As you know,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not a numbers guy, so I don't have it um.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: So overall the standings, RS follows Paul no surprise for
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: fifty twenty nine and one, followed by Mike and Fred
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: at forty four, thirty five and one, Evans twenty two
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: and ten. I'll take it, yeah, alex Is thirty and
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: eighteen Um and Tamarrow was still only picked one week
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: at seven eight and one. You stiffed me with the pixel.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: I was really upset about it when the game started.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: I literally you forgot. It's okay, It's all right. You
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: can always write him down and he can fill it well.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: When I'm not on the show on Thursdays, she sends
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: me on the slack and about eight days later I
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: find him. I'm just I don't know. Um with the
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Spread again, no surprise, Paul forty six, thirty two and two,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: followed by Mike, who was found his way to the
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: five hundred mark. Congrats to you, Mike thirty nine, thirty
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: nine and two. Evan is also at the five hundred
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: mark at fifteen, fifteen and two, alex Is twenty two,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: twenty five and two, and Fred twenty nine forty nine two. Wow,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: I was like me last year. Epic bad turn around?
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: All right? The the The Against the Spread comeback starts
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: this week and tonight eight fifteen on Prime Video. It's
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: the Commanders at one and four, traveling to the two
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: and eight, two and three, two and two and three
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears um Chicago by one in a game that
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: auto set the league back decades. Yes it should. Of course,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: the Commanders are in the news. So how how ironic
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: that they just happened to be playing tonight. Um, I'm
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: gonna go back to that thing, the caller said, two
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: bad teams. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Chicago and
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: kill Harry Factor. Give me the home team. I'll lay
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: the point. Do you hear? By the way, what Rivera
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: said about the quarterback the course, I mean he I
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: thought he did a good job of damage control afterwards,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: but what was his damage control? What did he do well?
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: How do you damage He threw himself on the store
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: and he was like that Sid it was you know,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: it was a dumb comment. I you know, I pride
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: myself on not being a distraction. We preached that, We've
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: addressed it, he addressed in the team meeting. He I mean,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: he apologized for it, but can't take it back. It's
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: out there when he's going back. He was just being
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: honest right forever, right, Sorry for the honesty. Alex, what
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: do you got Chicago by one? I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: change it up. I'm gonna go Washington and really yeah,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I give them. I don't know, maybe they rally around
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: this news and we're not a dysfunctional organization. Our coaches
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: throwing the quarterback under the bus. We're not blackmailing all
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: the other owners. Yeah, I think it'd be fun to see,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: So I want to speak it into existence. Okay, when
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: Washington against spread and Washington to win. Oh, sorry, Evan,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bears. Bears. The best thing about this
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: game is the Bears running game, so I'm going to
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: count on the Bears. I think the best game is
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: those orange helmets, which I think look really cool. I
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: will take the Bears as well. Bears Bears win, setting
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: up a big five hundred. Oh I think I just
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: got a peek into Fred's pick later in the show. Um,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the three and two four nine Ers
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: are at the two and three Falcons San Francisco, Buy
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: five and a half. I think this game is actually
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: at nine thirty on this based off this schedule. Oh yeah,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Oh was it a are we Internet? Yeah? The NFL
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: dot com has it at one, but they don't even
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: have a nine thirty games at a London game. I
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: didn't know this is merced then this this is very
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: very well wrong, Evan, So don't go off on my show. Yeah,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: they don't have an anyway. San Francisco's buy five and
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: a half five and a half. Uh yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Jimmy G on the road. I San
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Francisco is a little bit weird, but I think I
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: think they'll get the jot down against the Falcons. Alex okay,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: San Fran, San Fran, Evan. I'm taking San Francisco to win,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: but I'm taking Atlanta to cover because I like Dean
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Peace against JIMMG. Peace be with you. Um. I thought
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: about it, but I'm gonna stick with the Niners both ways.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: That Niners defense is really impact. I don't think it's
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: I don't get through a lot of good defenses in football.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: That's one of them. At their defenses, del Rio, I
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: will I will take the forty nine ers both an
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: old forty nine Ers both ways. Sunday at one, the
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: three and two Jets are at the three and two Packers,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: green Bay by seven, seven it's good good good tests
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: for the Jets. I mean they Yeah, I know, three
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: and two not a bad start winning some games. Uh.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: I gotta go with the hometown pack though, Go Pack
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: go um. But yeah, now I'm gonna lay the points. Yeah,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: I need Green Bay to put the Jets back in
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: their place. Green Bay both ways. I like Green Bay.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: I like them both ways too. I feel like the
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: Packers at some point have that level that they're just
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: better than the Jets. Yeah, I think that as well.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: I think the Jets stink. I think they're going to
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: get better because I think they have all the good
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: young players. I just think it's hard to be good
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: with all first and second year players playing so many
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: key roles. But I will take the points because I
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: don't think Green Bay is all that good. Yeah, I'm
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: with Paul. I say the Jets cover even though Packers
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: went at home. Um, it might be a backdoor cover too,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: like Green Bayer, I think we'll have the game. I
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: don't think it'll be in jeopardy. Yeah. I don't think
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: the Jets are as bad as Paul thinks they are.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: I think they're No, I think they're they're stink. Yeah. Well,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: I think they're just too young. Stink is too too
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: strong of a word that might sink. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: I don't mind him. I just I think they have
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of good young players. I just think it's
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: hard to be really good with all young players and
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: it's young. It's like the youngest roster in the league
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one, one of the youngest, the two and
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: three Jaguars are at the two, two and one Colts
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: Colts by one and a half. Who the tough one,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: of course, Jacksonville AFC South sneaky tough games to call.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: I'm really struggling with this one right now. And uh
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go with Indie at home based
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: on based on that jackson They'll win last year. I
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna they're gonna be locked in on
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: this one. I do think Jacksonville is better, but I'm
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: gonna take Indie at home on the way the point
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: and I would say one a half, one and a
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: half Indie Indie. I'm taking the Jacks. These these games,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: these interdivision games, they have some weird trends, you know,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: where teams just beat up on each other. And I
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: think Jacksonville is Jacksonville absolutely owns the Colts. They've shut
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: them out in a week two twenty four to nothing
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Yeah, Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: buck the trend. I'm gonna go with Indie. I think
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: they had ten days off. I think Jacksonville might be
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, we are what everybody thought we were
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: after their disappointing lost last week to Houston. I'm gonna
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: take the Colts, but I don't feel great about it. Yeah,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville is like a ridiculous heck over the Colts. Yeah,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: and it's tough to win, you know, beat the same
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: team twice and you're DIVI I am gonna go with
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Evan Jacksonville wins this game. Um, you definitely want the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: seen my record. I just like the conviction, you know. Uh.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the four and four and War four
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: and one Vikings are at the three and two Dolphins
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: with their third string quarterback, Minnesota by three and a half. Yes,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson, Teddy's not playing in this game. Not playing. No,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: he came right out, McDaniel came right out. Ridiculous. Yeah,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: he's like he's in concussion protocol. And didn't have a concussion. Yeah,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Yeah, we're going too far the other way.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: This is what happens. I feel bad it's deiling, not
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. Yeah, it's derailing the season though, Like
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: it's not you know whatever. I'm gonna take the Vikings
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: on the road, not on primetime. But I just think
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: it's too much for Miami right now. Yeah, I think
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: it's sorry Minnesota. Well, I like that Minnesota. I'm just
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: watching Tom Brady on NFL Network now doing a press
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: conference here anymore. He never wore a Patriots cap. It
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: was always TV twelve, and now he's got a Tampa
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Bay cap. Tom's camouflage killing me, You're killing me, and
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: he's got a Tampa Bay shirt on. That's too much, Yeah, Evans. Anyways,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him Minnesota too. I don't like it.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: But I think that color Thomson last week was a
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: mess when he had to go in there for Miami.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for Teddy. Okay, uh, I will take Minnesota,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: and I will take the hook and I'll take the points. Um.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: I think the Vikings will win the game. Um, it's
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: asking too much for it for them to beat a
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: good team like that with third string quarterback. But I
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: think I think, just like last week, they'll have a chance. Yeah,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: kicking a field goal in the fourth quarter to take
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: the lead, he missed it. I think that then the
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Wheels came off right. So I think the Vikings cover.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: They win and cover this game. Sunday at one, the
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: two and three Bengals are at the two and three Saints.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Bengals by one and a half. Bengals by one and
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: a half. So this is like who Dave versus Who Dat?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Who Dat Who day verse who that I'm gonna go
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: as it's tough. I'm gonna go with Joe Burrow on
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: the road. Um, that's a tough one, though. I'm gonna
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: take him and I'll play the points. I also wrote
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals both ways. I
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: can't get a read on the Bengals. It's a tough team.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: They got so much talent, but they're just not playing
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: up to its post Super Bowl. Yeah, that might be it.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: I'll take Cincinnati. I'll take them both ways. I don't Yeah,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: I'll take Cincinnati to New Orleans. I think a lot
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: of the New Orleans defense, but it hasn't played very well. Yeah,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand alone. Am I the only one taking
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the Saints? Yeah? Yeah, I think we know why? Why?
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Because they were mean to us? I know. Um. There
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: was an interesting story on NFL dot com today though
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: about when Tim Tebow was playing at Miami. You know
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: they uh it was a bowl game? No, no, Tim
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: Tebow wasn't. I'll never mind forget it. Good story anyway,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: great story. If Joe Burrow lights it up, could this
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: become a home game for him because of the Yeah
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: that's what happened in Florida with Tim Tebow. Yeah, Chase
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Chase too? Yeah yeah. Um. Sunday at one, the three
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: and two Ravens are at the four and one Giants
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: Baltimore by five and a half. Uh yeah, I don't.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: I don't. I like the Giants. I like Dable's doing,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: but I think Baltimore is uh the best team, and
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: we're one of the best teams. Namecy right now. I'll
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: take them, and I'll lay the points. Yeah, Baltimore to win,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Baltimore points. I like Baltimore to win. I'll give the Giants,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: oh the points, throw them a bone. I don't know.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: I I can't. I can't believe the Giants right now.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's for real. But maybe maybe they're
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: more competitive than I think. Yeah, I'm the same way. Um,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: I think Baltimore will, without question, at some point in
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: the game be covering, but they won't end up covering.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: I'll take Baltimore to win, but the Giants will keep
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: it close. That's the same way I'll take that hook
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: um Sunday at one, three and two Buccaneers at the
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: one and four Steelers, Bucks by eight and a half.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: That's not enough. Yeah, that's not enough. I'm taking Tampa.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: No problem with the pretty healthy road favorite though it
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: was like eleven and a half really, because home team
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: usually gets like a field goal, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, home team usually gets like
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: two three points. Because you said that, dude, you got Tampa.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, same retweet. I might check this game
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: out just to watch Brady destroy the Steelers defense like
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: he does every single time he plays Pittsburgh. Fair points. Yeah,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: I'll lay the points in this show. Yeah, I'll go
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: with Brady both ways. All right. Now we skip over
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: yeah you will? Oh, we skip over the Patriots at
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: one o'clock and we move to four oh five where
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: the one and four Panthers are visiting the two and
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: three Rams. Oh, the Rams by ten and a half.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: Ten and a half. Just to let everybody know, I
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: don't think cup Or Donald practice yesterday for the Rams. Wow.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Ye um, But I think the Carolina
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Panthers are going down the tubes. Their coach is gone
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna be Maybe that's a good thing, not good.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: I think they're a lot, They're they're wayward suns. They're gone.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Rams, and I'm even gonna dump
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: those points too. I took the Rams to win, but
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: I gave Carolina the points. I'm with Alex on this
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: one and with Fred. I think sometimes the coach getting
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: fire can galvanize the troops a little bit, make it
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: more competitive. But it's a big spread the Ram. Yeah,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: it's big spread. But ultimately I think the Rams win,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: but I think Carolina covers that spread. Yeah, I will
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: lay the points with the Rams. The Rams are in
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: trouble if they can figure out how to protect the passer, though, um,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be in disarray. If Stafford keeps getting
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: hit the way he is. They think he's sacked like
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: twenty one times or something. I know it's it doesn't
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: even really matter. Yeah, So I'll take the Rams because
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: I think that the coach um. I don't think they
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: hated the coach. I think when they hate the coach
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: and he gets fired, there's a little of that rallying.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't know the Carolina situation closely,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: but I haven't really heard any players coming up. Maybe
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: I missed them, and it sounds like they're more Yeah,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: I think that. I think there's more talk in Carolina
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: about a fighter. Say, yeah, you know Christian McCaffrey and
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: where he's going, and this guy and where he's going,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: and we're going right through Derek Brown. I think there'll
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: be some guys on the Panthers going on ir shortly,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: just shutting it down in a tough spot that like, offensively,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: the Rams are bad right now. They just don't have
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: enough talent on offense. They don't have a good offensive line.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: It's Cooper Cupper bust Like, they just don't have a
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: lot of talent on that side of the line. The
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: line is really really struggling. Yeah, I'm gonna go rams win,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: but I will take the points four or five. I
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: have two and three Cardinals are at the two and
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: three Seahawks like Gino Cook. So this is an interesting
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: game time because if the Mariners in Houston have to
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: play in the game four, they're changing the time of
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: this game. They're pushing it back like an hour and
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: a half. Oh yeah, let's have a little middle game.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: It'd be like a five thirty start something something like that.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: If there's a baseball game. Does anything that's different is cool? Yeah? Yeah, right,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: could help us on red zone. We'll have extra games.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: I know it'll be sorry. Arizona by two and a half.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: Arizona by two and a half, um, tough one Division game.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Sea Atole and the fighting Geno Smiths,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: and I will take those home dog points. Arizona twin.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: But I gave the points to Seattle and Gino. I'm
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: taking Seattle. I'm taking them both ways. I really don't
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: believe in Arizona at all, and I think Cliff is done. Yeah,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: it's getting getting warm over there. Yeah, what was that
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: number again? Put Arizona by two and a half. I
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: will take Arizona. I'm gonna take the Seahawks both ways. Well,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: they're underdog, so at home, might just take them. I'll
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: take them. Uh. Four twenty five, the four and one
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Bills are at the four and one Chiefs. Baby, what
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: are we doing? Why is this game CBS exclusive? Yeah?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: That was all that was not even gonna do the
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: postgame show? What are you be watching? That had to
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: be a protective absolutely, Especially Kansas City was on primetime
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: the last two weeks. You would think they would have
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: wanted to for this one. Buffalo by two and a half. Wow,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: that's how good the Bills are. Buffalo's favored and narrowhead.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: with them. I'm gonna go with them. You can think
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: Buffalo is pretty good. Buffalo is pretty good. It was
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: funny like we were talking with having about Buffalo and
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: like while we're doing the defense thing during lunch, and
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: he was like, tell it's your offensive Buffalo. It was
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: the same thing I said where you were just like,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, they could they could keep them to thirty
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: and it's still not enough for the bait, you know.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm going Bills. I think at time is now.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: But I think Patrick Mahomes is obviously playing great, so
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: he'll put up a fight. He's got a future that
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: might be all right. Good player about his family. But yeah,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going with the home dogs Kansas City. A smart
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: person once told me that a smart a wise man
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: bets home dogs. So who was this person? I forget suspect.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna suspect. I'm going with Kansas City too. I
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: I like Buffalo. I think they're a good team. I
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's a good quarterback, but you don't make
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes a home dog like I just I saw
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: that last week too with Patrick Mahomes, like he got
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit angry at the Chris Jones call and
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: lit the world on fire. So I'm taking Patrick Mahomes
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: as a home dog homeboy. Yeah. I think Buffalo is
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: gonna blow them out just like they did last year,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: and I'll take them to do it again. I think
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs remember that, and I think the Chiefs win this.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs got the revenge in the AFC Championship whatever division. Yes,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: is this an AFC Championship preview this game? YEA possibly? Yes?
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs. I took the Chiefs, Patriots, I took the Chiefs. Uh.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: Sunday night on NBRY Sure. Uh. The four and one
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: Cowboys are at the five and oh Eagle and get
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: enough of the division matchups in prime time. Eagles by six,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: game six, Eagles by six, and they're at home. Another
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: great game. I don't I don't especially love the NFC East,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: but but another great game. It's Philadelphia. Good challenge. I
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: think I saw what it. Yeah, the Cowboys have win
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: the last three. Got notes over there, No, just a
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: little bit. I print the thing so I have a
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: little bit of Maybe I can offer a comment or
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: a homework, a stat Perhaps it's much better, just like
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: say things like Jackson Villoe's the Colt. I have no
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: idea how many they've one. Oh yeah, just know those
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: things that I think that's a thing. I think that's
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: a thing. I'm going. I'm gonna go fly, Eagles fly,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: and but I'm gonna take those points. I think it's
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: gonna be close. Um, but I liked Eagles to win. Oh,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: so you have Dallas, you're taking up Dallas points. Yeah,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: I don't say Philly Philli on Philly Philly. Every time
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: both times. I think Paul on it the first time
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: we talk. I take a Philly to win, but I'm
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: taking Dallas in the points Divisional game. I just feel
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: like he'll be close. Dallas is another one of those
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: teams that has a defense that's pretty good. Um, but
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Philly both ways, because I know I
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: keep saying this every week. At some point Dallas is
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: going to realize they're playing with a backup quarterback and
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: something's gonna happened. Hasn't happened yet. I guess Mike McCarthy's
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: a genius. UM's generally an indication of winning games with
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. But I'm gonna take the Eagles in
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: this game. I too, am gonna take the Eagles both
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: ways in this game. So there you go. So now
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking to be a perfect week for me.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: I think both the spread night Monday Night, Oh yeah,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Monday Night, eight fifteen on ESPN two and three Broncos
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: are at the three and two Chargers. Chargers by five
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: and a half. They're getting any players back, I don't
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: think yet. I don't know if it's gonna matter, Um
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: the Broncos. It's the Broncos. I struggle to pick them
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: for anything. Right now, I'm gonna take the chargers and
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: I will lay the points. I thought they were going
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: to challenge for the AC West, I really do. Does
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: anybody this is a question for the panel, you know
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: how I like to throw these out there. Did anybody
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: think heading into the season that Russell Wilson was done? No? Like,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: I know, he wasn't playing great. He was on what
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: I would call washed watch. Okay, you know, like I
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: didn't think he was done done, like get had a
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: couple more seasons. I thought it had more to do
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: with Seattle's sort of crumbling talent. But I actually think
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: that I think you're throwing in Tyler Lockett in DK
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: Metcalf maybe kept him going in the end there it's yeah, yeah,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily being receivers. I just meant the entirety
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: of the team. Yeah, I hear you, But yeah, I
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: mean he's he looks, he looks done. Yeah, yep, yep.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: That much. Chargers both Mike Mike woint that was it,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: Mike Mike charges charges. I'm also taking the chargers both ways.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: Name for it. Jamari Sailor, the rookie left tackle that's
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: been filling in for Rashaan Slater shut out Miles Garrett
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: last week. No sacks, no QB hits for Miles Garrett
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: against the rookie left tackles, really impressive games like I
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: want armed though, I mean yeah, I mean I think
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: he was dead heading into the game. I'm gonna take
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, but I will take the points five and
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: a half. The Charges will do something stupid. Staley will
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: go for something, but it's two really stupid coaches going
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: against each other, so fair point because the other guy
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: is as overmatched as the head coaches I've ever seen
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: a head coach. I'm gonna go with the Chargers both ways.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: Is Denver finds themselves outside of Denver, not playing at home,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: and they don't know what's going on. It's a rare
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: away game for the Broncos. So I'll go with the Chargers.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: I got you all right. Now we go back to
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: one o'clock where the two and three Patriots are going
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: against the two and three Browns. I'm sorry, Browns by
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: three three? Yeah no, uh, this a pick them, no question,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I'm going with the Patriots. I
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna put a good game together.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: I have some confidence. I don't have stats to back
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: it up right now, but I think that they'll handle
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: the Charger or the Browns, and I got them twenty
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: seven seventeen alix. I picked New England to win. I
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: think it'll be close. So I gave Cleveland the points
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: for not to think of a score. So let me
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: think of one that would allow for that outcome. Let's
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: do twenty eight New England, which would give twenty six
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: to Cleveland twenty seven. Yep. I don't like that. I'd
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: love to watch a game like that. I wouldn't offense.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: What's offense? Yeah, I haven't seen any of that point.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Patriots to win. I guess to
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: push right twenty four twenty one three point spread, So
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: you got to pick one of the other. God you pick.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, if if it lands on that, obviously we
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: would all tie. But okay, I'll take the Patriots to
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: cover two. I guess. I think the biggest thing that
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: I look at with this game watching the Chargers run
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: an offense. I mean, I have never seen a professional
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: defensive line get blown off the ball as easily as
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: this Brown's defensive line did against the Chargers like it
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: looked like you were watching Zion Johnson playing in college
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: at BC. Like the way that they were moving that
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: interior of the line, it was crazy. So I think
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: the Patriots run defense is not nearly as bad as
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: the Browns run defenses. So I like the Patriots. Yeah,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: Cleveland really struggles stoppering the run, their worst worst in
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: the league at that buying a wide margin, and I
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: have to think that that's what the Patriots are gonna
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: want to do again. However, I think that that lends
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: to close games, and I don't think this game will
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: be easy. I think Cleveland will run it pretty much
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: as effectively as you do, and this could be one
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: of those games. Mike, we're watching red zone by like
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: three thirty. It could be like my dream game. I
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots will continue to win. I think as
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: much as I argued with Fred before I ate lunch,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: you'll see a continued progress from the defense. Was angry
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: Paul for the first time, all right, and twenty four
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: to twenty Okay, I'm with Paul in terms of how
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: many points the Patriots are going to score twenty four.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: I think they hold the Browns to fourteen. So I
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be twenty four fourteen two blowouts
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: and that really it depends on how the you know,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: toward the end, maybe the Patriots get a you know,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: backdoor touchdown or something like that. I think it's going
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: to be a closer game than ten points, you know,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: it'll feel that way. But a twenty four fourteen win
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots. So all right, all the Patriots this week,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's happened yet. This took this year. Um,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: all right, so that's oh no, I already did all
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: the pure happened last week. We're just looking out, but
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I picked point for the points. Okay, shame Alice.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: All right, that'll be it for this edition of Patriots
• 2:00:39
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• 2:00:46
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• 2:00:48
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