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Peter Espevoll from Extol on the Band's Legacy and their New Album · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:30
  Speaker 1: Today, we've got Peter from Extol. So excited to chat
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  Speaker 1: with you, Peter. This is a long time coming. Obviously,
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: we've had you on the podcast, you know, talking about,
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: you know, things like Harada and Entheosis. And we'll probably
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that today, too. But Extol's
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  Speaker 1: got a new album coming out just here in a
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  Speaker 1: couple months. And first new album in how long? Was
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: it like 2012 was.
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  Speaker 2: The last album or something? 2013, right?
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  Speaker 1: So it's been, yeah, it's been 13 years since the
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  Speaker 1: last Extol album. And so it's been a long time coming.
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  Speaker 1: Just very, very excited to talk about the new album.
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  Speaker 1: We'll also talk about kind of like legacy type of
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  Speaker 1: questions with you, but we'll dive into all of that.
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  Speaker 1: But how are you doing today, Peter?
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  Speaker 3: Hello, I'm doing all right. It's, you know, life, it
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  Speaker 3: has its ups and downs. Yeah, no, it's all good.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Lovely to see your beautiful faces again.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's always great to see you too kind truly
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  Speaker 1: you truly are like one of those people where even
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  Speaker 1: though uh we haven't met in person that i'm aware
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  Speaker 1: of you do feel like a like a friend that
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  Speaker 1: like if i were ever in norway i just call
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  Speaker 1: you up and we'd be oh yeah having a beer
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  Speaker 1: and hanging out at the fjord.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah a hundred percent uh would love to meet
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  Speaker 3: you guys in person would be yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Make it happen i know you're not really traveling with
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  Speaker 1: the band much anymore but If you ever happen to
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  Speaker 1: be in the States, let us know. We'd love to
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  Speaker 1: even try to, you know, even if you don't happen
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  Speaker 1: to be in the area that we're in, we want
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  Speaker 1: to go and find you and hang out with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'd rather go to Norway, personally.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would, too. Don't get me wrong. I
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  Speaker 4: would absolutely love to.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not coming under this president, so maybe in the
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  Speaker 3: next one.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Noted.
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if there's any reason to not vote for that guy,
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  Speaker 1: then we'll try to make it happen.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So I need you to let me know if I'm
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  Speaker 2: using this saying properly. So X-Toll's new album is kind
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  Speaker 2: of like Svin på skogen.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, you were breaking up. What are you trying to say?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so X-Toll's new album is kind of like Svin
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  Speaker 2: på skogen.
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  Speaker 3: Svin på skogen?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, is that right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can say that. I don't know if the
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  Speaker 3: new album is that, but yeah, okay, sure. Because it's
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  Speaker 3: been so long.
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  Speaker 2: It's been so long, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not the expression. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to say.
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  Speaker 2: I think it translates to pigs in the forest or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. I heard it was like an expression
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  Speaker 2: used in Norway. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 3: You have svin på skogen, but that means that you
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  Speaker 3: have done something crazy that, you know, you've kind of
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  Speaker 3: hidden in the forest, you know. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm missing the context a little more. Yeah. I tried.
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  Speaker 3: I tried.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I did try.
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  Speaker 1: I do love, I've got a friend from Denmark who,
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  Speaker 1: she recently taught me all of these, like, Danish sayings.
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  Speaker 1: And one of them is new balls in the soup.
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  Speaker 1: which is basically like there's like new context now that you,
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  Speaker 1: like there's new information that's added to the context that
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to discuss. So they call that like new
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  Speaker 1: balls in the soup. Or if there's something that's like,
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  Speaker 1: what was it? It's like a surprise or something. It's
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  Speaker 1: like there's something like there's owls are hooting. Anyway, they've
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  Speaker 1: got like all of their little sayings, but this Norwegian
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  Speaker 1: saying seems to be like one of these other kind
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  Speaker 1: of Scandinavian sayings that are just kind of like silly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah. We have a lot of silly sayings for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, before we talk about the new album, I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to just kind of talk about legacy of Extol. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have been around for like as a band,
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  Speaker 1: even though obviously you've kind of been more or less
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  Speaker 1: pretty inactive since 2013. You know, as a band, you
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  Speaker 1: guys have been around for 30 years now.
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  Speaker 4: Is it over 30 years?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like 94. So I guess 32 years. Yeah, 32 years.
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  Speaker 3: Literally the age that I am.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, you guys have, it's, you know, you,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have been around for a while. And I
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: think what's really cool about Axtel is, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: guys were, you know, basically coming out, uh, right around
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  Speaker 1: that time when a lot of other bands were coming
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  Speaker 1: out of kind of the Scandinavian world, especially Norway with
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  Speaker 1: a lot, you know, just really good metal bands coming
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  Speaker 1: out at that time, you know, especially, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you really want to like dive into the specific sub genres,
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  Speaker 1: especially a lot of like black metal. And obviously a
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  Speaker 1: lot of your sound kind of early on was kind
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  Speaker 1: of that, that vibe, but I'd love to just kind
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  Speaker 1: of talk through like when you guys look back at
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  Speaker 1: your history as a band now, even though, again, you
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  Speaker 1: have been more or less pretty inactive for the last decade.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to just kind of hear, yeah, hear more
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  Speaker 1: about like when you think back to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those like really influential bands that were coming out of
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  Speaker 1: the like Norwegian world, even Swedish world that were, you know,
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  Speaker 1: metal bands in the 90s. Like, you know, whether one
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  Speaker 1: was a Christian band or not, like you guys were
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  Speaker 1: one of the most important bands coming out of that scene.
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  Speaker 1: And like, do you guys think of it in that way?
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just, yeah, I'm curious kind of just the
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  Speaker 1: way that you kind of reflect on maybe your legacy
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  Speaker 1: or the impact, the influence that you had on music,
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  Speaker 1: especially your specific scene at that time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think we, when we look
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  Speaker 3: at ourselves, we don't think we are one of the
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  Speaker 3: big influential bands from that time. But I mean, for sure, we.
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  Speaker 3: We had something different, I think, to bring to the table.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, we were quite on the, you know, Christian,
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  Speaker 3: fronting the Christian message, which was, of course, different from
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  Speaker 3: most of the Scandinavian bands. And then also, I think
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  Speaker 3: we had this kind of technical, melodic twist to us
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  Speaker 3: that made us kind of unique in some sense. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Back in those days, obviously, we didn't think
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  Speaker 3: about stuff like that. We just wanted to do our
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  Speaker 3: thing and wanted to be a part of the bigger
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  Speaker 3: metal scene. And I guess it wasn't until we were
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  Speaker 3: signed on Central Media for the Synergy album that I
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  Speaker 3: felt that we kind of branched out more properly into
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  Speaker 3: the whole metal scene. But what's pretty cool is that now...
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  Speaker 3: the last decade when we have been inactive and we
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  Speaker 3: haven't really done much, we experienced quite a lot of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the little bit younger metal bands that are,
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  Speaker 3: you know, active now touring around when they come to
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  Speaker 3: Norway or whatever, like we will suddenly meet them or
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  Speaker 3: hear from them that they are like, you know, pretty
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  Speaker 3: influenced by XTOL. So that's obviously really, really awesome, but
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  Speaker 3: also a little bit weird. to, to hear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, but, but yeah, I don't think none of us
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  Speaker 3: really think about ourselves that we have been super influential
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  Speaker 3: in the metal world.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we know that you guys are so humble, but, uh,
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  Speaker 4: but I get it. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But it is cool that, yeah, a lot, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I hear it all the time from younger bands that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: mentioned Extol as like one of the more influential bands
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  Speaker 1: in their life. You know, maybe they started listening to
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  Speaker 1: you guys in the, early 2000s or whenever it might've been.
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  Speaker 1: And here you are now, like, you know, you guys
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  Speaker 1: are still doing it. And also like, because you've been
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  Speaker 1: around for so long, yeah, a lot of like other
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  Speaker 1: younger bands are coming into the fold, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: growing up with you guys.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I asked this question, maybe in.
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  Speaker 1: The first time that we chatted years ago, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of forgetting what your answer was, but I think
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  Speaker 1: what's like an interesting part of the the Norwegian and
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  Speaker 1: even like Swedish metal scene was there was this, weirdly enough,
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  Speaker 1: a very like satanic influence and especially in black music
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  Speaker 1: or black metal. And I'm curious about like your relationship to, like,
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  Speaker 1: did you grow up listening to those bands? Like, did
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  Speaker 1: you have any relationship to any of those bands, especially
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  Speaker 1: with the fact that you guys were so at that,
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  Speaker 1: at that time, especially like so kind of outwardly or
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  Speaker 1: overtly Christian and, yeah like what was like what was
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  Speaker 1: the relationship was it non-existent was it something where you
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  Speaker 1: kind of had to like keep your distance yeah was
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  Speaker 1: it something where like some of those bands were actually
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  Speaker 1: like pretty pretty chill with you guys like yeah I'm
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  Speaker 1: just so curious about like what that whole relationship was
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of those bands were still doing it
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  Speaker 1: you know even in the 90s when you guys first started.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I mean it was a little bit both I
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  Speaker 3: think like For some of the bands, I mean, Norway
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  Speaker 3: is a pretty small place, right? So it knows everybody
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  Speaker 3: somehow if you're in a scene. And at some point,
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, people had heard of us. When
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  Speaker 3: we released Burial, like the biggest Norwegian metal sign, they would,
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  Speaker 3: you know, write about us and gave us a really
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  Speaker 3: good review on the first album. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: created kind of like some tension because... As I say,
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  Speaker 3: we were very overtly Christian at that time, and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of these black metal guys didn't really enjoy I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate that but on the other hand we had also
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  Speaker 3: friends that were you know proper black metal heads and
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  Speaker 3: into the scene and yeah so some were really really
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  Speaker 3: not too happy about it and would show that and
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  Speaker 3: others we were hanging out with and yeah It was
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  Speaker 3: a very strange time. People have probably heard this before,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean, yeah, as I said, everything from having
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  Speaker 3: good friends in the scene to, you know, like small
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  Speaker 3: threats or, you know, just people didn't want to play
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  Speaker 3: with us live because we were Christians or, yeah. I
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  Speaker 3: remember the church we were in, like some black metal
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  Speaker 3: kid that, you know, I think they wrote like, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to rape your... your women and kill your children
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  Speaker 3: or something like on the wall on the church outside
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  Speaker 3: wow well.
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  Speaker 1: And then there was that whole story about that one
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  Speaker 1: church that was burnt down i forget if that was
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  Speaker 1: a norwegian.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it was a way or not but yeah there
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  Speaker 4: was a church that was burnt down by that black metal.
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  Speaker 3: Group several churches were burnt down and uh yeah it
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of bad stuff like yeah one of
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  Speaker 3: one of them i mean killed a uh a gay
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  Speaker 3: guy just because he was gay uh and uh I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of destructive stuff in the scene. Like every other,
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  Speaker 3: you know, community like that, it's a bunch of kids,
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  Speaker 3: you know, wanting some community, basically. And they found their
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  Speaker 3: thing and they were somewhat just, you know, were into
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  Speaker 3: it as an image and others were taking it more
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  Speaker 3: literally or seriously. Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Was there ever an aspect of respect for you guys
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  Speaker 2: that you guys felt because of your, as a band,
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  Speaker 2: technical and musicality prowess? You guys are clearly on another
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  Speaker 2: level in terms of just being able to show how
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  Speaker 2: tight you are on stage.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah Colin is following up but yeah I think I
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  Speaker 3: understood the question like for sure I think we even
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  Speaker 3: felt that at a time like we felt that we
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  Speaker 3: kind of had to work twice as hard as everyone
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  Speaker 3: else in the metal scene because we were Christians uh
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  Speaker 3: But also, we also felt, I think, not that we
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  Speaker 3: thought that we were super great, but we knew that
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  Speaker 3: we did a thing that was, you know, we had
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  Speaker 3: decent musicians in our band and we did our thing
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  Speaker 3: quite well. So I think we knew that people at
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  Speaker 3: least couldn't just write us off because of the bad quality.
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  Speaker 3: So I think we had some confidence in that, that, okay,
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  Speaker 3: we're not shit. So, you know, we can stand for
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  Speaker 3: this musically as well. And I think that earned us
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  Speaker 3: some respect, I think, from people who maybe didn't want
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  Speaker 3: to listen to us, but were like, well, okay, these
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  Speaker 3: guys can actually play, so maybe it's okay, you know, somehow.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, had there already been, I mean, obviously there was
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  Speaker 1: the sort of satanic black metal influence that was probably
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  Speaker 1: going to be skeptical of you guys to begin with.
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  Speaker 1: But were there other like maybe Christian metal bands that
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  Speaker 1: were coming out of Norway at the time that were
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  Speaker 1: like maybe.
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  Speaker 4: for lack of a better word, kind of cheesy.
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  Speaker 1: Like, were they just, like, not very good, where that
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  Speaker 1: kind of already created a stereotype of what Christian metal
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  Speaker 1: could be like? Because especially here in the States, you know,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: there was kind of this general stereotype of, like, Christian
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  Speaker 1: alternative music, whether it's metal or hardcore or anything, that
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  Speaker 1: some of it was just, like, not very good, and
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  Speaker 1: then therefore, like, it made a lot of those, like,
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  Speaker 1: early Christian bands have to work really hard to be
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  Speaker 1: actually really good, because there was already a stereotype of
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  Speaker 1: them not being very good. So, Was that something that
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  Speaker 1: you guys kind of had to play with that dynamic
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  Speaker 1: as well?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: With like other maybe previous Christian, you know, Norwegian metal
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  Speaker 1: bands not being very good?
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  Speaker 3: Not at all. I think, I mean, we were one
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  Speaker 3: of the first extreme metal bands, Christian extreme metal bands
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  Speaker 3: in Norway. But of course you had Antester and you
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  Speaker 3: had Grums. And then also Lengsel. And I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: was great bands that would, you know, get respect for
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  Speaker 3: what they did. So, yeah, I think what the Christian
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  Speaker 3: scene in the early 90s did here in Norway was
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  Speaker 3: quite good. It was, you know, high quality. And I
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  Speaker 3: think most people who heard it for the music were like, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 3: this is good stuff, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But
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  Speaker 3: of course, if they listen to a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: American stuff, they would be like, oh, this is bad.
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  Speaker 4: Just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine being a kid in Norway, growing up Christian and
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  Speaker 1: then finding yourself into metal music and then listening to
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  Speaker 1: Extol and maybe there were some other bands that came
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  Speaker 1: out afterwards and thinking like, oh, well, if you're a
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  Speaker 1: Christian band, you must be really good because all the
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  Speaker 1: Christian bands.
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  Speaker 3: Are really good.
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  Speaker 1: It's just totally the opposite experience as like... Like, it
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: reminds me, there's a comedian named W. Kamau Bell. He's, like,
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  Speaker 1: this black comedian. And he's got this, he's got, like,
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  Speaker 1: a daughter. And he, like, makes this joke about, like, his, like,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: family doctor is, like, this black woman. And so his
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  Speaker 1: daughter just had this assumption that every single doctor is
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a black woman. it's like oh you're just waiting till
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you actually like learn about the real world but like
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: i would imagine like that could be really funny if
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  Speaker 1: there was like some kid uh you know that grew
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  Speaker 1: up in norway who was christian that was like well
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  Speaker 1: i guess just every christian band is a really good
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  Speaker 1: really good band only to find out that's not the
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  Speaker 1: case at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah but i mean obviously we were influenced by
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: the american scene as well so uh which had some
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  Speaker 3: really really awesome bands from the christian scene with uh
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: of course, Living Sacrifice, which was, you know, one of
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  Speaker 3: the first bands that I was like, holy, this is
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  Speaker 3: so brutal. And the vocals, like DJ, when he was screaming,
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  Speaker 3: it was such a big influence on me. And of course,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: the Australian mortification was a huge inspiration for our death
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  Speaker 3: metal stuff, you know? So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, you know, you can, you can see that
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  Speaker 2: there's a little bit of, at that time, crossbreeding was
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  Speaker 2: kind of like worldwide, right? It wasn't just your little
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  Speaker 2: scene at home. It kind of had to be worldwide
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  Speaker 2: if you're a Christian band, at least.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. But also, at some point in the
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  Speaker 3: early stages of XTOL, we didn't really know anyone else
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  Speaker 3: in Norway that did extreme metal. And then we heard
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  Speaker 3: about Antester and Grums and the Lengsel guys. And we're like, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 3: there's more of us. That's awesome. We finally found some
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: community with these guys, and it was just super fun.
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  Speaker 2: So did you guys tour together a lot with those fellas?
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  Speaker 3: No, we never. I guess we just played one festival
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  Speaker 3: with Grums and Tester. We had just some shows here
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  Speaker 3: and there, no bigger tours. And then, of course, with Lengsel,
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  Speaker 3: the guys at Lengsel just became a part of XTOL
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  Speaker 3: after a while. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious for you guys, especially when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: your Norwegian influence, you know, when we think of like
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  Speaker 1: some of those metal bands that were coming out of America,
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  Speaker 1: you know, around the same time in like the nineties,
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  Speaker 1: early two thousands, you know, a lot of those bands
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  Speaker 1: are still, I mean, many of them are still active
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and many of them, whether it's, whether in the Christian
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: scene or not, became very influential bands, you know, like
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Under Oath, Norma Jean, Devil Wears Prada, trying to think of,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, like we mentioned already, like Living Sacrifice.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And so a lot of those bands became very influential.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And so like when you hear, if you, you know,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: talk to any like newer band, many of those bands
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: are bands that are like cited as influences. And I'm
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: curious for you guys, I have no idea about what
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the Norwegian metal scene is like now. Obviously, at one point,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: it was a big deal 30, 40 years ago. If
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: there is any metal scene in Norway now, is it
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: something where you guys hear your name kind of thrown
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: around as an influence of those bands? But obviously, that
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: question is probably assuming that there's still a pretty prominent
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: metal scene. So yeah, I'm curious what your answer to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that would be.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah I think there's still quite a big metal scene
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: in Norway a lot of the old bands are still
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: you know going on so and I'm honestly I'm not
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: so much into metal anymore and I haven't been for
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: many years I'm not super updated on the scene but
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: yeah you know I'll check out some music here and
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: there but whenever I hear about stuff it's usually like
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: you know all the old bands you know right So, yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But I think metal is still strong in Norway. Like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: the biggest festival in Norway, like, in any genre, is
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: a metal festival.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Well, and even, like, the way that, again, you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure what it's like in Norway. It
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: sounds like it's still pretty strong. But especially here in America, like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: if you were, I mean, if you're, like, in your
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: 40s right now and you grew up, especially, like, in
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the Christian metal scene, like you guys are just constantly
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: thrown around as one of the biggest influences, whether it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just a fan or another band. The way that people
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: respond to, a few years ago when Extol played at
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Furnace Fest, it was one of the most highly anticipated
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: because obviously part of it is you guys just don't
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: really tour much anymore, but it's kind of one of
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: those things where you just don't realize how influential Extol is.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: until you start talking to some of the people that
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: grew up listening to you guys, and you realize how important,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it's not just that they listen to you guys, but
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you guys were truly deeply influential in people's lives, especially
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: here in the States. So it is really cool to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: know that a band thousands of miles away that really
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: hasn't been active for almost a better part of 20 years,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: how incredibly important still you.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Guys are to so many people here, especially in the States.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's like I said in the beginning,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: like the past decade, we have kind of understood that
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: more and more that, oh, wow.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Like, and it's, of course, super humbling. And yeah, I
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: don't know what words to use, but of course, it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: a very good feeling to know that what you have done.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I started the band with my brother and
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: David when I was 14. And we were just seriously,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: we were just kids. Even up until the hiatus in 2006, 2007,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I was still just a kid. To know that something
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: that we did as kids has had that amount of
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: influence of people all over the world, it's crazy. It's,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: of course, super nice.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Calvin.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: That's something I kind of want to talk about again here, too.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Christopher is back in in the fold here, right? I mean, he's, he's,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: he's playing with you guys again. And what's that been like?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's, it's, uh, super nice. I mean, it's so
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: cool to be, uh, all, all of us, uh, back
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: together again. Um, yeah, it's, uh, I would have loved
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: for him to be on the last record as well. Uh,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: 13 years ago. Uh, but yeah, I'm so happy that
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: we could do an album now with, uh, with the
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: four of us. It's yeah. It's very nice. And he
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: has his riffs and his signature stuff and also writing
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: some of the lyrics, which is just super Christer. So yeah,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: it's awesome. Really, really cool to be all of us again.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Would you say that you and Christer have very similar
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Matic topics in terms of lyrical content?
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Interesting.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I kind of figured there was not necessarily....
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Well, thematically, I guess we have some of the same
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: stuff that we are dealing with and that we are
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: interested in these days. But the way we write is very,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: very different. Me and my brother, we are two, I
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: would say... extremely different personalities.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: In what way?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: In every possible way.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: So he's very extroverted, is what you're trying to say?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Because you're introverted?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: No, the opposite.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just joking.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, you were joking. Shit. Yeah, no, I love my brother.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we're very different. And the way we write,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: the way we think, the way we express feelings, the
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: way we express ourselves is very different.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Does that ever cause tension when it comes to trying
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to write music with him?
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, of course. You know, in a process like this,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: like we've been spending the last three and a half
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: years writing this album. And I'm just I'm sorry, I
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: just see Colin. He's frozen like this. Oh, yeah.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: It's actually, it's a great, great, great photo for him
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: to get frozen on.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, we spent like two and a half
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: years writing this album and we are grown men with,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: you know, kids and families and our daily jobs. And,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: and of course there is when you are then also
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: quite different personalities in how you write or how, like
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: how we want to do things. Of course, it's going
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: to be frustrating at times for, for every one of us.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's all good. Everybody has just tried to
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: do their part. And, you know, in three and a
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: half years, like I could have a period for some
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: months where I'm super on and then something happens with
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: me and then I'm super off for some months and
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: then some other guys on. So, you know, it's just
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: going to be like that. It's been an interesting process. Honestly,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I think we have met like the four of us.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: in studio we have met like maybe three times in
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: three and a half years wow wow uh the rest
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: is just everybody in their own studios and of course
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of dialogue on on mail and on whatsapp
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: and phone calls and stuff like that uh yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Well it's just crazy how much like the the technology
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: of you know when you guys especially uh with uh
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: with your 2005 album like i can't imagine like the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: technology wouldn't have been there for you to be able
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to write and record the way you're able to now.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: The fact that we all can be in different places
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and still basically come together with an album. Obviously, there's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: certainly going to be moments where you're going to have
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to come together to record some stuff. But the fact
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that most of it can probably be recorded completely remotely
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and then you just piece stuff together, it's just amazing
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: how that's even a possibility. And I think it's what's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: given rise to a lot of these bands that you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: maybe were around for a handful of years and then couldn't,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you know, for a variety of reasons, had to break
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: up or go on hiatus. And now with the way
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: technology is, it allows a lot of bands to maybe
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: at a slower pace, but still kind of still write
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: music and still play music.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: And then every now and then go on a tour.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if we were like, if we should
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: have been like one month in the studio together, like
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't be possible. Like none of us could have
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: done it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Unless you'd be fighting your brother probably.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: You'd be five years old again. Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: But also like, you know, in terms of money and
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: family and everything, like, you know, it's, it would not be,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: be possible.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So I think, I think you kind of talked about
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that with, uh, with entheosis as well.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: That like, it really just couldn't have been done, you know, 10,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: 15 years ago even. And now it does allow it
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: to happen and it's great stuff. And the new, new
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: tune out there too.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But of course, it's a little bit sad as well.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: It's good on one side, but it's a little bit
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: sad as well, because a lot of good things happen,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: you know, in the direct connection between human beings, right?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Like we did, you know, in the past where everything
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: would happen at the rehearsal space. You know, someone would
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: come with a riff and then they would start playing
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: drums and I would start screaming on top of it
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: just to get some, you know, phrasing on top. And
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: then it will just evolve naturally into something. which is
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: kind of the same way it is now, but it's
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: a much more kind of technical, distant kind of process. Whereas, again,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: someone would send some ideas on email and then, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: everybody would just listen to it. Okay, do we like
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: it or not? If everybody likes it, then we will
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: go to the next step or maybe David would put
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: some drums on it or I will try some melodies,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: like just kind of like that. I think it was
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: more fun back in the days when we were together, actually.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: With how technical this record is sounding so far, to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: me at least, I feel like you'd have to have
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: so much more focus being in different places all over
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the place, right? That would be very difficult, I would imagine,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: because it's like, alright, so we've got these nine different
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: parts that are all very technical and have their own
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: kind of like crazy polyrhythms and times and stuff like that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: But like, how do you get it to gel together
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: so well? Because that seems like a monumental task.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Not really, to be honest. I mean, yeah, it's just
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: a matter of like what, let's say Ole has an idea.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: He would have a couple of guitars recorded, maybe in
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the bass. And then he's probably, sometimes he's programmed the
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: drums just like to get some feeling for it. And,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: you know, everybody understands the idea. Uh, and if, if
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: it's good and everybody likes it, then, you know, Chris
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and Ola were like, Chris would learn his part and
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: record it on his side. Ola would record it on
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: his side. David would record the drums and then I'll
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: do the vocals. So yeah, it hasn't really been hard
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: in that sense.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: So for you vocally, you know, with Harada, you're like
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: exclusively singing. And obviously with Entheosis, you know, it's a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: little bit different of a project than Harada. I'm curious,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: like for you, like, you know, again, last album was 2013.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: You know, I would imagine it's not like you've been
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: screaming a lot over this last decade or so. And so, yeah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: like what's the, what's been the process of like kind
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of getting your voice back ready to scream again and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: screaming quite a bit?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's been... It's kind of like riding a bike,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: to be honest. Like if you just learned it as
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: a kid, like if you don't ride a bike for
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: 10 years and you get back on it, you'll still
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: ride the bike pretty good. Right. but of course I
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: want to challenge myself I always do when I do
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: vocals so I've tried to evolve somehow but still keeping
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: my signature stuff and what I've been working the most
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: on for this album is the clean singing um kind
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: of challenging myself to sing try to sing better somehow
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: yeah so uh yeah it's it's been pretty yeah not
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: too hard with the screaming part and uh then i
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: worked quite hard with uh with the clean singing stuff
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: to get better.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Does it i've just i'm always like fascinated with especially
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: with the kind of screaming that you do it's just
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: like you must scream in a way where it's not
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: super hard on your vocal cords because, you know, I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: just can't imagine like going from like not screaming for
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: quite some time to doing the kind of screaming you're
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: doing where like, it just feels like it's gotta be
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like, you know, like
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: if I were to try to play a football game
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: right now, I'd probably get injured pretty quickly because I'm
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: not like, you know, I'm not trained for that anymore
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the way I used to be. So like, I would
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: imagine it's gotta be, I don't know, maybe it's not
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: similar in terms of singing, but in my mind, I'm like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: When I think of you, like you're singing or you're
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: screaming that like all of a sudden, if you start
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: going from not really doing much screaming to now starting
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to scream again quite a bit, it feels like it
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: would be hard on your vocal cords, but I don't know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little bit to get into, but
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, it takes like one session to kind of
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: find the technique again. But I don't like, it's so
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: funny because I see all this new, like for the
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: past years, this metal vocalist these days, Oh.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's her name? Melissa Cross.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: They have such great technique and they're kind of like
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: just showing you how to scream with all the different techniques.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I just scream my guts out, to
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: be honest. I spend so much unnecessary energy and I'm
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: just like exhausted after screaming for a couple of hours.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: It's just like, you know.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: But that's why you've got an eight pack, right?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: You've just got washboard abs.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: This doesn't help i would have but this doesn't.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Help the beer i'll dang it i tell you what.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah what was something with this album that you guys
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: uh maybe maybe it's a sound thing maybe it was
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: lyrical but what's something that felt like.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Very new for you guys um that you were exploring.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: With this album that maybe you hadn't explored before uh
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: with the previous album.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: It's a good question what I really enjoyed about some
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: of the parts of the new album, uh, that we
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: haven't done much, I guess, since at least the early
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: days is we are diving a little bit into some
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: pretty awesome black metal parts here and there. Uh, and
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: that just gave me so much joy. Uh, like it's, uh,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: it's super fun. And then in the mix, uh, That
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: was one of the few times we were all together.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: We all traveled over to Jens Bogren in Fascination Street
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: in Sweden for him to mix the album. And when
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: we were mixing the songs that had this black element,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: we were just like, hey, let's go all in. Let's
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: just go all the way. So that was, to me
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: and to us, I think the other guys as well,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: felt refreshing for us. so I really really enjoyed that
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and also what I talked about a little bit earlier
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: with my clean vocals that was also something I felt
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I kind of yeah developed in a way that I
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: felt was really good both singing wise but also some
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: of the melodies that I made yeah ended up something
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: new that I don't think we have done in Extol
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: before so yeah for me at least it was those
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: two things was probably the most fun.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I would say my favorite thing about it is it
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: feels like every tune is, uh, it's a complete mystery
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: box as to what you're going to hear next.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: It feels like a genre bends so much and I
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: love it, but like, it almost like tracks right into
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: a certain genre and then immediately switches right into a
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: new genre. And it's such a fascinating and fun way to, to, uh,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to listen. But you're talking about your vocals, your clean
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: vocals especially, and your melodies especially. Do you feel like
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: doing stuff with Harada and stuff like that has really
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: improved your melody writing? Because I'm feeling a lot more
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: of that pop sensibility almost kind of come through, or
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: almost like earworm-y kind of melodies coming through.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Like the whole RADA project
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: for me has been super developing and yeah, a project,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: you know, a genre I've never done before. So I've
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: spent some years now with that and it's of course
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: made me another kind of songwriter and with a lot
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: of focus on vocal melodies. so yeah 100% and also
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Ole and David are also excellent pop warm melody writers
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: so it's a great combo there with all our melodies
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: combined it's super.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Fun yeah especially Ole's yacht rock sensibilities.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's true that is true but I mean to
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: me David he is like he When David writes pop melodies,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: my heart just melts.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: He's kind of the dark horse of the band, isn't.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: He? No, he's the glam dude of the band.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but as a listener, he's the last guy I
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: would imagine to have that kind of vibe. You know
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, no, David writes the most,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: sometimes super crazy melodies, but I usually love them. And
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: then sometimes it just turns into this pop beauties that
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: are just so lovely. Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: And you guys do it. You guys do that so well.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: I'm curious, I'm curious with like, just what inspired making
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: new Extol music?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Was it something where maybe each one of you guys
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: were just kind of, you know, starting to, you know, like,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe Oli or whatever, or maybe it was
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: David or you or whatever, maybe you were starting to
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: write some stuff where you're like, this doesn't quite fit
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Harada or this doesn't quite fit this project. It kind
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: of sounds more extal. Was it something like that where
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you guys were just kind of creatively individually kind of
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: doing your own thing and then kind of realizing like, oh,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: there's maybe there's some more extal stuff here. Or was
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: it something where one of you kind of came together
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: and you're like, let's, let's try this again. What inspired
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you to even want to make another XTOL album?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't remember. I do remember we sat down
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the first time like three and a half, four years
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: ago to talk about it. But I don't really remember
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: what sparked that idea to do a new album, to
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: be honest. So ask David, he always remembers everything. Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to answer. Right.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: But maybe, maybe for you then individually, like what, what
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: made you want to be a part of another XTOL album?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Right. It might actually have been Chris, maybe, maybe David
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: and Chris, cause they were working on Azusa album, I think.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: And then probably they just finished that. And yeah, Maybe
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: they started, you know, hey, you know, Chris maybe wanted
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: to do something again with XTOL. Maybe that's how it started.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: For me, I think all of us were quite, do
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: you say ambivalent in English as well?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we all were quite ambivalent when we
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: were sitting there in the first meeting with the four
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: of us and like, okay, are we really going down
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: this road again? uh we know how much effort it
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: takes you know uh we're not getting getting any younger
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: uh we know it's going to be super hard we
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: are very different personalities we have very different musical tastes
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: these days you know ule working on his things me
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: with rada chris and dave with you know azusa it's
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: very different styles of music and so i think all
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: of us were quite ambivalent and uh I think we
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: spend some time just everybody in themselves like, this is
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: really worth it. But for me, I felt like coming
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: back to music, which, you know, happened for me under
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: the COVID thing. I started Radha and suddenly music became
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: something fun for me again after, you know, 10 years
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: where I hadn't been doing any music at all. So
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I was kind of like at a creative high. I
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: felt I had a lot of energy, a lot of creativity,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of drive. So for me, it was like, yeah, okay,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: if everybody wants to do this, then let's go. I
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: have a lot to to offer and a lot of
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: time and energy to put into it. And I thought
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: it was fun, like, you know, to do something, who knows,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: maybe this is the last thing we will do. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: don't know, but you know, to do something again with
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: crystal also would be super nice. So yeah, it was
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: for me, it made sense to, to, to give it
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: another go, you know?
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Were you the, were you the hardest one to convince?
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I think maybe David was a little bit unsure about
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: the whole thing because, yeah, he saw all the problems
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I had with us four trying to agree on something.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So with a new Extol album, does it mean that
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you all are going to grow out your hair again
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and do a bunch of white makeup?
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: It's getting long. You've got nice hair. You always wear
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: a hat every time we interview you, but you've got
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: good hair, man.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Wow. Did you just do the tongue flick? That was
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: too much.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Is this like a Christian podcast or something?
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I can see why you're married. Holy cow. You had
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: my heart fluttering for a little second.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: You've got good 90s flow. Yeah, like 90s boy band flow.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Totally. My kids are saying that it's getting thin, so
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: they're kind of making fun of me that my hair
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: is thin.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: That doesn't look thin at all.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You've got the straightest hairline I've ever seen. That's awesome.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: So we shouldn't expect long hair down past the shoulders anymore?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Really hoping that, but.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is what it is. We might do wigs.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Who knows? Wigs.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Will you do wigs?
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: That'd be fun.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: When will you do wigs? I hope that reference lands.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I hope everyone knows what I'm talking about.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: I have no idea what that is.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I have no idea either.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. It's, it's, it's from a Lord of the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Rings behind the scenes thing that became a big one.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: So, oh, no, there we go.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Somebody will get it out there. I'm sure.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Colin, you have any more questions about the album?
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Uh, not about the album, but I do, I do
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: want to know what's going on with, with Rada and, uh, entheosis.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: What's the, what's the timeline look like? Because I will
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: say Harada last year, two years ago, sorry, was, uh,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: my number two, most listened to band of the year
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: or not artists, I should say.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: So, wow.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely love Rada. And that's coming from a metalhead,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: so you've got crossover.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean, I've been simultaneously working for new
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: albums with Extol, Rada, and Entheosis for basically three plus years-ish.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: So with Entheosis, we have released, is it our sixth
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: or fifth? I don't remember a single just this Friday,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: we released a new one called Oblivion with Bruce from
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Living Sacrifice. And it's so good. Which was super, super fun.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, as I said earlier, like Living has been
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: one of my, you know, influential bands back in the days.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: And of course, Bruce is a lovely guy. And he
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: stepped in for me when we played Furnace Fest, you know,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: on vocals. And yeah, so I thought it was super
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: nice to have him on the Intiose song. Yeah, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: then we're doing one more single in like a month
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: or so-ish. And then we will release all those songs
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: plus another four songs, I guess, ish.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Nice, beautiful.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: As a full album in the new year sometime.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Sweet.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super nice. I love doing this project with
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: John Reichardt, the other half of Inteosis. He's so talented
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: as a songwriter, as a musician, as a producer. He
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: produces and mixes all of this, except for the last
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: one we did with Jesse Ceretti. That was George Lever
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: who mixed it. But other than that, he's mixed everything.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's so lovely working with him. And yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: he's such an awesome guy. Super smart.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Very, very nice.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I love that project.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: And with Radha, I mean... I've probably said this earlier,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I think with you guys, but I mean, Radha is
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: my baby, uh, for the past years. And it's what
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I really.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, where I feel I can be really.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Really a hundred percent myself in the songwriting. Um, on
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: the past album or the first album we did, uh,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: it was with Osman, uh, and he quit after the
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: first album. Uh, now I'm writing with, uh, Brazilian guy,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: friend of mine, called Vinicius Cavalieri. He lives in Canada.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: So again, it's just long distance stuff. And we're taking
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: it a little bit in another direction. The first album
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: was very orchestral, you know, just so many things going
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: on at the same time. Yeah, so lush.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: I still remember you saying that there was like a
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: hundred tracks.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: On each one of the songs on the garage band.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Which I love and it was so right for us
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: to do that with me and Osman. Both of us
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: are like more and more is more kind of guys.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: But with this one, I kind of wanted to challenge
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: myself to write stuff that is a little bit more
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: simplistic and to kind of have more space for feelings,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: to breathe and to kind of, yeah, just again, just
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: try to develop myself in some ways. So now it's more, yeah,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: almost no orchestral stuff at all. Much more into like
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: the 70s, I guess you could say like progressive singer-songwriter
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Like something like Rush?
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: No, not rock.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: More like Donovan or something like that.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Simon and Garfunkel, the more crazy songs from them,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Joni Mitchell. But again, with, of course, my thing on it,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: so it doesn't sound like that at all. So yeah,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I'm super excited to get something out, and I've wanted
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: to release something for quite a while now. But I
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: just want to wait until Extol and Intelsis is kind
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: of settled a little bit and everything is out because
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want to kind of compete with, you know, attention.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: So you've already got a lot of eggs in your basket, so.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, but it will probably be an EP, not
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: a full album. So I think we'll release, you know,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: some songs February, I guess. And then just, yeah. release
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: some singles and an EP around springtime or something like that. Awesome.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be looking forward to it for sure then.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Colin.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I love how much music you're putting out right now.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know that there was obviously a whole,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: almost like a whole decade where you weren't putting out
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: new music.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the fact that you've got Harada, Entheosis, obviously
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: now new Extol. I just think the world's a better
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: place when you're putting out music.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: This is true.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. And I'm also producing... the last couple
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: of years I've started producing just a little bit here
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: and there for other artists. Just, you know, friends of
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: mine or smaller artists here in Norway, which has been really, again,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: developing for me and fun to help other artists just
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: find themselves and find their thing, you know? And yeah,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: so it's a lot of time spent on music the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: past years.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say so.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Well, Peter, I didn't, I guess we didn't prep you
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: on this before we started recording, but the fact that
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: you've been on the podcast a couple of times, we've
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: asked you typically, I think maybe one time, I'm sure
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: we asked you your top five most influential albums.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Um, I'm sure we, I think if I remember.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Right, we talked about your guilty pleasure artists, but I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: don't think we've done, uh, if I, if I remember right, uh,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and Colin, you have a better memory on this stuff
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: than I do, but, but we typically, when we have
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: somebody on for like the third or fourth time, we'll
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: ask them artists or bands on paper that they should like,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, they just can't get into, um,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: And then on the inverse of that, of bands on
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: paper that maybe for whatever reason you wouldn't think you
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: would like, but you just love. So as you're thinking
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: about what those bands could be, Cullen and I can
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: kind of give you an example for each one for us.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: So like a band on paper that I should like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: but I just can't get into is a band called
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Law Dispute. I don't know if you're familiar with Law Dispute,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Peter or not, but they kind of like to me,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Going to be very disparaging. So if you're listening and
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: you love Law Dispute, I apologize. This is disparaging.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I think they kind of sound like the JV version
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: of me without you. And so even though like, I
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: love me without you, they're one of my favorite bands
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: of all time. You would think that I would love
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: law dispute. I just can't get into them though. Like
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't, doesn't work for me. So that's like
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: an example for, for me, for that kind of category.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: What would you say is a band that on paper
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: you should like, but you just can't get into other
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: than next door.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, cut out. Shoot.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: While we wait for Cullen, so on the inverse then, Peter,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: a band that on paper that I shouldn't like for
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, but just absolutely love. So I'm not really
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: into a lot of like folk stuff at all.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: But one of my.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Favorite artists of all time is Sufjan Stevens. I just
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: absolutely love Sufjan Stevens. I think he's just one of
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: the most talented artists I've ever heard. And I don't
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: really like a lot of that kind of music for
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the most part. but Sufjan is just like truly like
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: one of my favorites. So anyway, can you think of
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a band on paper that you should like, but you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: just can't get into?
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Many, but I think the most obvious one
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: coming from where I come from, the time that I
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: come from, I should like Metallica, but I, I, I
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: hate Metallica. I have never enjoyed Metallica. I've never enjoyed
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Metallica one single bit. Really? Yeah. So, I mean, I should, like,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: there's no reason I shouldn't, but I can't stand Metallica.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Especially like your contemporaries of like other, you know, bands
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that you guys would have played with or whatever. You know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I would, I would imagine like Bruce's like this, like
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: so many of those bands grew up with Metallica and
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: that's why they play metal music. so it's just a
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: common thing especially for like your generation of metal artists
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that like everybody started playing metal because of Metallica so
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that's crazy that you just like never got into them.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: And I would just add one more to me Iron
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Maiden is the worst band in the universe really?
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Yes that is a hot take Peter it's.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: The truth yeah we've talked about it So yeah, hope
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: that's good enough for you guys.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: What about on the inverse?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Like what's a band that on paper you maybe shouldn't like,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: but for whatever reason you absolutely love?
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: So this is nothing you have heard of or any
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: of the listeners have heard of. So I guess I
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: have to explain it a little bit, but there's a
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Norwegian band that I discovered four years ago called Tiger State.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: And they play indie disco music. And there's literally no
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: reason why I should love that band in any way.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: But the first time I heard like 10 seconds of
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: them live and I fell immediately in love. I don't dance.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: I never listened to disco at all. I never really
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: enjoyed it. But these guys, they just took my heart
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: and my body and my soul within 10 seconds. And seriously,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I've been listening to them nonstop for four years now.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I can't stop listening to them. And I share them
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: with every person I meet when we talk about music. Like, hey,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: go listen to Tiger States. So it's really weird, but
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: they just make me so happy. And their lyrics are
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: so charming and romantic in a funny way. And yeah.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Are they just like really great live as well.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: They are awesome like they're like sometimes eight nine ten
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: people when i saw them first i think they were
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: like in their mid-20s like quite young kids and they
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: played so well like crazy ridiculously well and they were
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: grooving so much they had two drummers and they had
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: like some brass and guitars and some strings. It was
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: just like, wow, this, this is insane. So yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I'll have to, I'll have to check them out. Uh,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was kind of hoping for that
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: type of pick where it's like, yeah, I would never, like,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I would never peg you as a disco guy, but
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: like one of your favorite bands right now is a
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: disco band.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: That's so cool.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I have to add the story about when I heard
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: it the first time. I'm a part of this organization
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: in Norway with the composers, like songwriters, lyricists, and composers.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: And once a year, we have this big party, like
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: seminars and stuff like that. And then we have a
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: big party with dinner and then some artists that will
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: play for everyone. And that year, they had booked this
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Tiger set. I don't think there were any people there
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: that I ever heard of them before. And suddenly like
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: 10 young kids came in running from the back of
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: the hall. I think it was to like some Star
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Wars soundtrack or something. It was like, you know, Jolie
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: running in up on stage and everybody was like, okay,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: what's this? And again, like after 10, 15 seconds, I
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: think we're like 250 people in the room. And within
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: 10 seconds, everybody were standing up and dancing like that's,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: And you have to remember that in that room, there
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: is people like me, not very famous songwriters at all,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: up until the most famous artists and songwriters in Norway.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: And you don't, it's not so easy to convince this
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: group of people about music, if you understand what I mean.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Everybody's kind of like, yeah, you know, what's this? But everybody, yeah,
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: we were just like captivated by, at once it was
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: so fun so.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: That's so cool are there are there lyrics in are
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: they do they sing in English or they sing in Norwegian.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Uh English a little bit French uh a little bit
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Italian I think but mostly.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: English yeah wow okay cool yeah is it common for
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: most Norwegian artists to sing in English uh yeah is
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: that is that a common thing like or are there
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: like some artists that are kind of like they stick
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: to their roots of just only singing in Norwegian Yeah.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Quite a lot sing in Norwegian, but most sing in
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: English also, I guess. So, yeah, it's very common to
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: sing English.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would imagine if you want to
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: break out of Norway, you're probably going to have to
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: sing in English. Although, like, I mean, obviously, like one
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: of my favorite bands of all time is Sigur Rós.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: And obviously that's all in Icelandic. But that's like you
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: almost have to be like transcendentally good like Sigur Rós
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: in order to be able to do that. But other
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: than that, it's probably pretty difficult to break out of
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the Norwegian market if.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: You're only singing in Norwegian.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: I get that. Well, those are great picks.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to be looking up this Italian disco band.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: This sounds so much fun.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tiger Sides. Go check it out. Sweet.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Peter, what do you want to plug?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Obviously, New Extols coming out, I think it's at the
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: end of November, right, is when the album comes out?
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Album comes out November 6th. So early November.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, early November. Okay. So about like six weeks from now.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So we have a new, the third single will
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: be released in October and then full album November 6th.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Love it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Are people, so I guess we could have touched on this,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: but we didn't, but obviously it's getting released on solid state,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: which is super exciting. Can we expect it on vinyl
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: or anything? Can we get any physical merch or anything
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: like that with this new album cycle?
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: 100%. You can already now pre-order the vinyl, the CD.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: And I want to plug this because we are also
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: releasing the Synergy album on vinyl soon. Oh, um, which
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: is also, it's been out for pre-order now for a month,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I think. So it will be out in October, mid October,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: late October, but you know, it's still possible to pre-order. Uh,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: so yeah. And also a lot of new merch coming out,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: of course, with a new album. So it's going to
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: be a lot of physical stuff that people can get.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Have you, I'm sure they're probably still in the production
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: process of the actual, like the new album with the vinyl,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: but I would imagine you've got some really cool colors
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: and everything, right?
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's solid state just, uh, have kind of full
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: control of it. As I understood, it's just one edition
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: and it's got some cool colors. Yeah.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, cool.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Sweet.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm excited for it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: And then, uh, I know, again, I know you guys
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: aren't touring a ton right now, but, uh, can we
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: expect like any shows at some point, uh, in the future?
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be some, a couple are already booked. Uh,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think I can plug.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Any of them, but, uh, yeah.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Well, but, But at some point?
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: At some point, I don't know, hopefully in the U.S.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: As well.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: But I mean, with the experience we had last time
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: with the visas and all that shit, I mean, it
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: costs so much money and it's so hard, to be honest,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: to go over to the U.S. these days. But let's see.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully, you know, if we get a new president,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: maybe we can then finally expect some extol shows.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: That'd be great.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Sweet.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Well, Peter, uh, you're the best. It's always just the
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: best to chat with you. I really want to go
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: to Norway at some point. I love, I love Scandinavian
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: culture so much. I love, I love just the Norwegian, uh,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: geometry or geometry, the geography of Norway. I love, just
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: love Scandinavian food. I just like love the whole culture.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: So I'd love to, to come to Norway at some point.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: It'd be just so much fun to hang out with
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: you and, um, and yeah, just experience a little bit
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: in Norway. So Yeah, hopefully at some point I can
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: head over and we can have a beer.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Sounds great. You're more than welcome.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: Anytime. Thank you so much, man.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: All right. Cheers. Thanks, guys.