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Fraggle Talk Episode 12 - "Into the Trash" with Puppeteers Aymee Garcia, Ingrid Hansen & Kira Hall ("Marjory the Trash Heap") · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

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  Hello and welcome to fraggle, talk.
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  The Unofficial Fraggle, Rock podcast brought to you by tough
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  pics.com. This is the podcast where we
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  cover Fraggle, Rock back to the Rock Episode by episode along
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  with the town's of producers. MERS writers and Builders who
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  helped put it all together. I'm your host.
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  Silly creature Johannes. Today we are talking about
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  episode 12 into the trash in which the trash Heap gets sick
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  and boober goes, dumpster diving.
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  We have three exciting guest today and with their powers
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  combined they make up the trash Heap herself.
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  First up, we have a puppeteer whose work can be seen on.
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  It's a big, big world splashing bubbles in LazyTown.
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  I'm back to the Rock. You've seen her as henchy
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  fraggle, Ma gorg, and one-third of Marjorie.
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  We are extremely pleased to welcome, Amy Garcia to the
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  podcast. Hi Amy.
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  Hi guys. It's so nice to be here.
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  Thanks for inviting me, of course, so glad that you're
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  here. Our next guest is one of the
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  stars of Sesame workshop's help stirs as well as shows like Miss
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  Persona and princess sparkly. But I just wanted to say that on
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  a podcast, I'm back to the Rock. She is the body of my gorg and
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  1/3 of Marjorie as well. We are extremely pleased to
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  welcome, Ingrid Hansen to the podcast.
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  Hi Ingrid. A murmur ran through a thanks
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  for having me. Of course, thanks for bringing
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  your own theme music, I appreciate it.
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  Yeah, our third guest has been seen on CBC Kids Studio K,
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  Canada, crew, and starred in the Canadian cast of Avenue Q on
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  back to the Rock. They perform Brio and Melody
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  merggle, and they are the final third of Marjorie.
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  The trash Heap. We are extremely pleased to
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  welcome. Kira.
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  Hall to the podcast. Hi Kara.
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  I think. Hello.
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  Me of course what a treat to have all three pieces of the
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  trash Heap here. I hope you don't mind me calling
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  you trash on this post, he said, leiter honor and a pleasure.
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  Oh my god. So let's start with how each of
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  you got started here on Fraggle Rock.
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  I'd love to know more about how you auditioned and what the
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  process was like for you. Let's start with you, Amy.
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  Okay. Yeah, it was It was kind of an
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  intense tough audition. A lot of a lot of vocal audition
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  and and very like they were really trying to fine-tune
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  specificity out of every character which I loved and, you
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  know, just, you know, getting certain colors and our voices
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  and stuff. I think that for the most part,
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  they knew that all of us were puppeteers.
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  So that aspect They knew that we were able to do and can build
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  on, but yeah, that was the vocal aspect of it was a big part of
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  the audition for me. Interesting, Ingrid.
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  Did you find the same where you doing colors with your voice and
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  your audition? Yeah, and they also, I filmed
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  myself doing a bunch of movement and dance with a tooth pulled
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  down over my ISO for American audience.
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  This that's a knit cap. But I basically blindfolded
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  myself and did a bunch of dance and like creature movement and
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  like clown movement, big kind of Buffon clown movement and video
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  sent that in. Because as the gorgs, you can
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  barely see instead of being inside the body of my gorg.
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  I was just like, I was blindfold myself and dancing said that in.
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  So yeah, the I remember doing that on my porch.
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  So you were you knew already that you are auditioning to be a
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  gorg. This wasn't just like, We want
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  you to play some sort of character or we want you in the
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  background and maybe maybe we'll have you playing someone.
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  Like you knew this was going to be like a full body movement,
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  piece beforehand. I don't think I knew.
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  But I knew there were gorgs in the in the piece.
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  And I had experience doing big full body, walk around puppets
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  with help stirs with playing heart.
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  So so, yeah, that was kind of the trajectory.
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  I was like, oh, how do I show them this without having a Giant
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  puppet. Yeah, right.
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  Yeah, that sounds really challenging.
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  I've a lot more questions about ma gorg that we will get to in a
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  moment. But I do find that kind of
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  stuff. Absolutely.
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  Fascinating and terrifying as well.
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  I don't know how I would do it. If it were me.
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  Oh yeah, that's it. That's you kind of Gotta Love
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  The Thrill of being confined. I don't know.
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  That's of having having a to go over your eyes to play a giant.
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  Yeah, of course. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Akira Your audition like, well,
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  Henson didn't know me at all. I kind of lucked out, a friend
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  of mine, a fellow Puppeteer. Jason hopley said, to me, back
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  in the fall before they started filming fraggle.
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  Hey, do you think you might be able to go to Calgary for like
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  four months for thing? I just I think you'd be good and
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  I want to recommend you. I'm like okay.
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  And so then I got an email asking me to audition.
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  So we did a I think there were a couple of scripts and then song
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  had to do some choreography to and then the next stage was
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  sending in some voice auditions. Like Amy was talking about, you
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  got some breakdowns for the characters and got to go through
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  those and then I got a nice email saying, I got to go, hang
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  out with a bunch of other, puppeteers and great people in
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  Calgary. What a gift to just get to live
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  in Fraggle, Rock for three or four months have been
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  incredible. Now, we'll talk more.
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  Like I said, we'll talk more about malgor, we'll talk more
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  about the trash Heap, for sure, but some of you have played
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  specific like named characters that you can really kind of own
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  as your own with this new iteration of Fraggle Rock.
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  Amy for example, you played henchy fraggle.
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  Did you like what was that? Like, or what was that selection
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  process like to get to play a character that really gets a
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  good amount of screen time throughout the season?
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  Yeah, well and I was, I have to admit.
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  I was not I was not a big fan of the way that she was sort of
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  portrayed in the original because she kind of gets beaten
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  quite a bit. And I knew that they were they
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  were wanting to to shift that. And so it was I like Like that,
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  we were kind of figuring it out on the fly a little bit, it's
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  like, okay, well, if that element is taken away, then what
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  else could she be? So, she became dislike kind of
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  like this annoyed assistant to kind of like, just knows more
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  than more than the rest of their group, but just has to stay
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  quiet because she's an underling, right?
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  But the audition process for that was, was just a lot like a
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  lot of playtime in a lot of like, you know, getting to Just
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  sort of throw out ideas and, and incorporate ideas that were
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  already sort of in place. So yeah, it was, it was fun.
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  I've yeah, I was I was, I was really proud to have been
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  throwing the gauntlet of of her and yeah, and get to play.
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  That's pretty cool. And hen she is an interesting
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  character because this version of henchy, like you said, it's
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  very different from the original series and she is a rare case.
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  Is of an adult fraggle, who, like I supposed to like the
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  fraggle five, who were basically kids and adult fraggle, who's
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  also really smart and capable almost.
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  Well, it's weird that you would think the front that the
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  character wouldn't necessarily fit in with everyone else in
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  Fraggle Rock, because of that because they're so different.
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  Did you find that challenging at all?
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  Or was it just like you're just going to play up the
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  exasperation of the whole thing? Yeah, because it's that, you
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  know, you kind of sort of like sit into the We of it all.
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  It's just like you know of course the personality like that
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  would be existed you know II know that.
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  Like because we got to we all got to play Background fraggles
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  as well. And we were really like we all
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  do deep into those personalities of those background fraggles and
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  their lives. Like they were like belives that
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  those background freckles were having and like I feel like the
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  hen she was just sort of like a featured, you know, like a
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  little bit of a featured background fraggle as a fraggle,
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  five were kind of always the, you know, The main, the main
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  idea of the show. But yeah, I love that view,
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  especially, because that means that we could easily have some
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  fraggles spin-offs with all these background characters,
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  just just shift the camera a little bit.
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  Totally. I want to see holy a spin-off.
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  That's I really poke spin off, please.
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  That's yeah. Oh well I guess, I mean that's
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  that's the gimme that that's your Fraser right there is to
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  get piggy, move poke to Seattle. Give him a, give them a talk
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  show. Radio talk show his room.
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  Is the Grizzard to be challenging because Kanye would
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  then have to like jump back and forth, baby, he would do it, he
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  could do it again. Oh yeah, can do anything.
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  He could do anything. Yeah.
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  Kira. And Amy, you both least,
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  according to the Muppet, Wiki starred in different versions of
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  Avenue Q. Did you Bond over this when
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  you're on set? I don't think I could even talk
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  about it. Yeah, I was came on sternly.
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  See, and the first like canadian-based production in
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  Toronto? Amy.
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  Amy. What were you who did you play?
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  I had a very interesting contract because I was hired on
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  as assistant stage manager, like, you know thinking, oh,
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  I'll never go on these people. They're so healthy.
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  They got there. I went on for everybody
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  including characters. I really didn't know.
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  Like, I remember like my horror the horror.
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  Horror was me putting on the overalls to go on as Gary
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  Coleman. Like, not know, because the
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  actress had gotten sick and I was like, I'm done the undercity
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  rehearsals, I've read the lines. I think I know this as pulling
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  my hair back and we had just called in the undercity, to
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  leave a restaurant that she was currently working at to come in
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  and take, like, takeover mid-show.
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  It was like, it was those kind of things, the sad job entailed.
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  That's what I'm saying. Like we before we started the
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  pod. Pastor was I was, I was saying
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  that, like I would just give, you know, take a shower and show
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  up to work. Not really know what I was gonna
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  do that day. So yeah, it's a that was my
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  contract down Q. So I covered it.
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  Everybody a little, you know, it was which was fun but like was
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  was that thrilling, like, did you get a hot?
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  I look at a high off that, or was it like a no more for me?
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  Please. I think I'm getting stages of my
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  adults anxiety. No, no.
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  I mean like, yes. Yes.
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  Sure sure. And then afterwards I was just
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  like, man, I wish I could have gone on.
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  I would have loved to have tried to sing that song try to do loud
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  as the hell it would have been great, you know?
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  But I kept thinking the audience is gonna be real mad.
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  That's not Gary Coleman at all. That's not the thing.
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  That's amazing. If we get more fraggles than I
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  think, we're going to have to get some behind-the-scenes
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  footage of the two of you singing.
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  Some some of the Avenue Q songs with the fraggle, puppets.
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  Oh yeah. I think everyone be okay with
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  that, right? There's no yeah.
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  Oh yeah, really clean. No, not at all.
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  All right, so let's let's talk about this episode into the
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  trash. This is, as we mentioned, it's a
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  trash Heap Centric episode. It's about as eccentric as we
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  could get with the trash, eat because we're right in the
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  middle of her. But this episode starts in Doc's
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  Workshop. Where Doc is continuing her,
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  science experiments to develop a plastic eating bacteria.
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  She says, if she's successful she's going to get to name the
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  bacteria, which is exciting. She's thinking munchie, that's a
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  pretty good name for for bacteria.
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  That munches, unfortunately, the heater on her tank has broken
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  because he tiny little screw is falling out, which is is ruined
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  the entire experiment unless you can get it replaced right away,
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  but that screw is very very tiny.
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  Later on, we check in with them again.
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  And Doc asked, sprocket to breathe his hot dog breath on
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  the tank to keep it warm. And he kind of like starts like
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  on the tank, it doesn't work and she says, I'm glad nobody saw
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  that and then sprocket does this Great take where he looks around
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  and he looks directly down the barrel of the camera and shrugs,
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  I thought that was a nice gag. My brother's dog gets upset and
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  excited every time he sees sprocket on the screen Really he
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  recognizes the puppet as a real dog and even in.
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  So doing, he is well, I mean, of course, but like he is a dog who
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  would know dog better than a real dog?
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  It's trippy and, and even just hearing the sound of sprocket
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  barking. So that's am off, and he starts
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  barking and then he's just Johnny generator tag, like when
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  were right, you know, but it's yeah, I think it's a great
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  litmus test. That's a great litmus test for,
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  for like, like, is this a real dog?
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  And I mean, we Said many times on this podcast, that sprocket
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  is a real dog sprocket. Like there's no question in my
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  mind, it's not. There's not three people
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  underneath that thing puppeteering him.
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  That's know like he's real. We're any of the three of you
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  involved with these Dawkins sprocket sequences later in the
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  episode. I got to have have my brief
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  appearance in Doc's workshop with cotter pin, helping out
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  Donna, Donna, Kimball, but we'll get to that later.
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  We will. Yes, hold that thought Thought
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  but yes, that's that's very exciting.
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  Amy their first. Yeah.
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  My very first day on set I was just sort of like you know your
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  first handset you're just sort of like taking it all in and
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  Johnny was like hey can you come under here and just help with
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  sprockets tail and I was like so excited so it's like it's one of
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  the first episode. I can't remember which one it
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  was but it's like it's an overly excited.
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  Tail Wag their like it made the skin.
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  You you just dial it down the throats of the way.
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  Take down a little bit so it's like a kind of channeling
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  everything through this tale. That's nothing, but excitement.
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  Yeah, and I was like, I was my happiest doing sprockets.
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  Hell was so excited. Yeah, that's cool.
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  That's a dream just to be sprockets tail.
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  Wow. Down in Fraggle, Rock, the
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  tensions are high. We, this is our penultimate
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  episode of the season and all these different things have been
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  piling up on the fraggles. The waterfall is down to a
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  trickle, the doozer, constructions are everywhere
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  because nobody wants to eat them.
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  The pond is full of Goo. The myrtles are, have all been
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  relegated to boobers long tubs. It's a lot making me think this
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  is probably not the best episode for someone to come into cold,
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  like to watch this and to, suddenly be thrown into all this
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  chaos, not understand where any of that came from.
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  Which is a weird thing for Fraggle, Rock is normally the
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  old show was completely, you know, episodic and not
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  serialized like this one. With the three of you were
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  filming. These episodes.
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  Did you feel like that was any sort of a challenge to kind of
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  have to jump into the beginning of an episode and re-establish?
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  What we are, what we're doing, where we are as opposed to just
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  starting fresh every single week.
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  You're all thinking which makes me think that this was not a
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  problem and you were just down to Puppeteer whatever they told
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  you to I mean that's more what the writers have to plan out,
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  you know? Sure but for Russell on the day
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  in the I mean there is so much continuity to the Rock the place
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  and all the characters are so well established that I don't
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  think that wasn't necessarily a challenge on set but it was
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  definitely really exciting to read all the scripts and And get
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  to follow the track, the Journey of the Ark and see the arc
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  through and yeah. Great.
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  Just I mean engines, like, day wise for us to they were, there
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  would be days when we would be shooting more than one episode.
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  Like, where we would be shooting different parts, different parts
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  of with, it's not like when you shoot an episode, you don't
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  really go from, you know, beginning to end, you'll shoot
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  what what is lit? What you know, what portion of
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  the set is ready, or you know, or how many puppeteers you have
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  to be able to to pull off a certain segment of a scene?
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  So Yeah. Yeah, continuity wise for us, at
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  least for me when I finally saw everything cut together.
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  I was just like, yeah, this way, this is epic as we read it
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  because in the moment you're just like, who did we get
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  everything that we needed? You know what I mean?
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  Like you're you kind of, get a little anxious wondering if
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  like, if all the pieces are actually going to be there and
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  then when you finally do see them cut together, it's like
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  yeah, it was that. And then some so it was really
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  satisfying. So I'm curious about and we will
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  talk about this more in a bit. But, you know, seems like like
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  the trash Heap for example, which I assume, you know, I know
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  it was a separate part of the set and, you know, once you get
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  the puppet up and it's well lit, and all that you're probably
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  doing two or three episodes of just trashy ball once.
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  But the tone might shift from script to script so was that a
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  challenge to have to kind of jump back and forth and kind of
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  remember, okay, so what was happening just before this one M
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  after this and now we're coming too.
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  Wheatley different plot where they might have completely
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  different, you know, mood and attitude, and feelings.
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  I mean, it was challenging, but everybody was just we were, we
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  were guided along the way. It was at least, you know, it
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  never ever felt like, you know. Okay.
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  And just go, you know what I mean?
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  We were it was definitely a lot of, like, this is what's coming?
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  Next. This is what came before or
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  this, is the the tone that we're looking for, we didn't quite get
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  it. Let's go back and try it in a
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  different way, or, from a different angle, or everything
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  was, was double and triple checked, which was, which I so
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  very much She dated. Yes, well definitely comes
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  across in the final product because it's seamless.
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  I would have never known that you didn't.
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  Yeah, just do one at a time. Straight through.
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  Wow, so boober has been making soup.
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  That's his job. He's the soup guy among the
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  soups. He's making our seaweed soup for
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  the myrtles. Pumpkin bisque for the crackles.
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  He's making a baby corn soup for the Doozers and the horrible
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  like yeah, right. Baby corn that we find out.
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  That's what Doozers eat is baby corn.
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  So cute. It is adorable.
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  And I mean just the fact that like I never thought about what
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  Doozers eats because I mean I assume is some cart sort of
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  radish something. But you know I guess boober
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  makes them treats what a nice thing for him to do in a tiny
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  little cauldron, And the world's oldest fraggle in the west
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  comes, wise counsel emerge, and they need boobers help, it's
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  because they're out of radish noodle soup.
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  So, that's the fourth soup here, a lot of soup now Ingrid.
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  Correct me if I'm wrong. Did you perform the world's
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  oldest fraggle in this episode? No, Frank performed world's.
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  Oldest fraggle. But there were several points
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  where I had to step in and for, you know, the long shots and
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  stuff and I'd be the world. Oldest fraggle when Frank was in
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  boober. So yeah there's some points but
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  almost all the you know, all the meaty Parts like the close-ups
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  and things were usually always Frank.
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  There were some, I got to do a couple little little bleeps and
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  bloops which was so fun. I'm like a, it's just such a
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  Bonkers weirdo and he's so you'll just like, takes over
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  your whole body and he's like always flipping his beard.
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  And I remember there was one point where director Father
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  Frozen Church. Okay, John resin bomb.
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  Resin bomb. He called okay, Frank can you
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  can you get the world's oldest fraggle to start a little
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  earlier in the scene and I was like I made him call me dr.
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  Muscles are the world's oldest fraggle.
• 21:02
  Made the director call him dr. Muscles is like it's not
• 21:06
  Richard. Frank ever hear its decorations
• 21:09
  to you dr. Muscles but Sorry tangent.
• 21:16
  Look Whatever Gets You Into the character.
• 21:19
  I hear for it and we're going to add to the world's oldest
• 21:22
  fraggle. 'S Muppet wiki page that he is
• 21:26
  also known as dr. Musacchio its Cannon now it's
• 21:31
  can induce a lot of podcasts now everyone knows that's incredible
• 21:36
  and there's a great photo of you performing the world's oldest
• 21:39
  fraggle, Ingrid on The Muppet Wiki, which is why I assumed
• 21:42
  that you were performing in this episode.
• 21:44
  Yeah well I feel a little steps in.
• 21:46
  Yeah it was really fun. Yeah.
• 21:49
  That's got to be the most fun, one of the most fun character,
• 21:50
  those characters who can literally just say anything and
• 21:53
  and it's in character like, what fun, what a great, what a great
• 21:57
  gift. So Uber is disappointed that he
• 22:04
  is the soup guy and he doesn't have real responsibilities.
• 22:08
  He really wants to help because there's so much going wrong here
• 22:10
  in Fraggle Rock. So Gobo is helping with a
• 22:13
  travelling. Matt postcard and boobers
• 22:16
  replies to him. You just go right for it, don't
• 22:18
  you? Which is a, that's a good line
• 22:20
  reading. He is backstage at a concert and
• 22:24
  he takes the stage, the audience.
• 22:25
  Cheers, and turns out they're not sharing for him.
• 22:27
  They are cheering for Dave, Grohl celebrity Human Dave Grohl
• 22:31
  right behind him because they're the Foo Fighters concert which
• 22:36
  is like a it's a it's a really interesting Balancing Act here
• 22:41
  that we don't normally have humans aside from Doc on
• 22:44
  Fraggle, Rock at all. And here we have not just a
• 22:47
  human or a series of series of humans but celebrities which is
• 22:51
  completely alien to Fraggle Rock but I don't know about you.
• 22:55
  I feel like it works in this context.
• 22:57
  How did you all feel? Absolutely.
• 23:00
  Like the like of all the bands, like, right the Foo Fighters to
• 23:04
  believe. Yeah, I love that.
• 23:05
  It's like such a symbiotic, like, love that fraggles.
• 23:08
  You know what I mean? Like, that?
• 23:10
  We love them. They love us.
• 23:13
  That sort of, that, that, that was, that was a lovely thing to
• 23:17
  sort of. Yeah, pick a celebrity who's,
• 23:20
  like, down to earth down to clown, just gonna lean into the
• 23:24
  silliness of the moment and not be weird about it.
• 23:27
  It's going to be Dave Grohl. Like they, I thought they nailed
• 23:31
  the tone. Yeah I completely agree I love
• 23:35
  the sequins. It could have been done so
• 23:37
  poorly and it was not so yeah I thought it worked.
• 23:41
  I also have a few interesting observations about this.
• 23:44
  We'll see if they're interesting as I say them out loud, I tried
• 23:47
  to do a quick head. Count of how many people were in
• 23:48
  the audience and a comment around 50 or 60 extras.
• 23:53
  Which can you imagine, can you imagine going to a Foo Fighters
• 23:56
  concert and you were one of only 50 people like this intimate
• 24:00
  little club that would never happen to me, They're probably
• 24:03
  selling out like Madison Square Garden right now you know tens
• 24:06
  of thousands of people but like yes you have meals at that up
• 24:09
  and like a jazz club with candles on the table or
• 24:12
  something if it was right. Yeah D person.
• 24:14
  Yeah yeah, amazing also, Dave Grohl, I did a little research
• 24:21
  is one of as far as I know, only three celebrities who have
• 24:25
  completed the trifecta of having worked with the Muppets Sesame
• 24:28
  Street, and Fraggle Rock icon. So dick, Cause not many people
• 24:33
  have worked with many celebrities.
• 24:34
  Have worked with fraggles it. Also, you know, that, that
• 24:37
  really narrows it down, Dave Grohl, as most people remember,
• 24:42
  was in the 2011 Muppets movie. He was also in the 2015 Muppet
• 24:46
  sitcom and on Sesame Street. He's saying the main theme song
• 24:51
  for their 50th Anniversary, Road Trip, special series of episodes
• 24:56
  and now of course here in Fraggle Rock.
• 24:58
  I am curious. Not that, you know, I assume
• 25:02
  that you're not them up. Fanatics that I am.
• 25:05
  But can you guess as to who the other celebrities might be?
• 25:10
  Oh gosh, no Rita Moreno, no Rita, no, that would be cool.
• 25:18
  I would love to see Rita Moreno with a fraggle, but I don't, I
• 25:22
  don't think she has kinky Union, who's the guy who played the
• 25:26
  voice of Jackhammer? Oh, Kenan Thompson, Katie
• 25:29
  Thompson? Yeah, no, I don't think he's
• 25:31
  ever worked with the Muppets. He's worked.
• 25:34
  Feel like he's been on Sesame Street without having looked it
• 25:36
  up, but I don't think so. It's not, it's Sesame and
• 25:38
  fraggles. Yeah.
• 25:40
  Oh I'm not even know any celebrities names Mark Hamill
• 25:44
  Mark Hamill Mark. Hamill my Camp.
• 25:46
  How cool with that? I wish you can.
• 25:49
  We get it from our cam on season two Fraggle Rock, please.
• 25:52
  Oh my gosh, I've got to work on it.
• 25:53
  You know. I was really worried who I was
• 25:55
  really working. Who's that with Jason?
• 26:08
  What would you we're getting way off?
• 26:09
  Topic. I don't care.
• 26:10
  But what do you want to do with Jason?
• 26:12
  Momoa and fraggles? We are deeply.
• 26:15
  I'm not what? I'm not asking.
• 26:18
  What you want to do a Jason Momoa.
• 26:20
  I have a few ideas. What do you want to see?
• 26:23
  Jason Momoa do with the fraggle Universe.
• 26:26
  With the fraggle. Can feel that he American eagle
• 26:29
  or a human Gardner in the courtyard and come and tend to
• 26:35
  yeah, yeah, I see that. Like I said, I use.
• 26:38
  Yeah, he made me swear. Wake up like a tank top.
• 26:41
  He's a little little sweaty. Yeah, you know.
• 26:44
  Yeah, I guess I do like the idea of him playing Americans as a
• 26:49
  self-proclaimed Aquaman fanatic. I like that idea very much.
• 26:53
  All right, so I'll tell you the two, the two celebrities who
• 26:57
  have also worked with all three. We got Neil Patrick Harris
• 27:01
  because he was on Fraggle, Rock Rock on the the and this is also
• 27:08
  is a deep cut. And if anyone out there would
• 27:10
  have guessed this, I am super impressed, Ziggy Marley has
• 27:14
  worked all three and now I'm bending the rules, slightly
• 27:18
  because Ziggy Marley was on Fraggle, Rock rock on as well.
• 27:22
  He made an appearance in like the 90s on Sesame Street and he
• 27:26
  sings the song Love Power which plays during the credits of
• 27:30
  Muppet Treasure Island. How about that for a deal?
• 27:33
  Oh my God. So I think, Dave, Grohl Winds of
• 27:38
  the three of them. Also, like pretty pretty
• 27:40
  impressive. The only three I appreciate
• 27:44
  Ziggy like sneaking in there though.
• 27:46
  That's right. Yeah, well, I got with an
• 27:49
  asterisk for that for that Muppet Treasure Island.
• 27:51
  One feel like they need to collect their own club like
• 27:55
  their own like, yeah, Couture or lapel pin or something - oh,
• 27:59
  yeah, Danny got ya, little statue of Jim's like called a
• 28:07
  hen. See, ugh NC man.
• 28:10
  Okay, we gotta make this happen. So, We were talking about Dave
• 28:15
  Grohl but also the rest of the Foo Fighters band is is all
• 28:17
  there, Pat smear, Chris Shiflett, Nate, Mendel and Ramey
• 28:21
  Jaffe. But also I think we have to
• 28:23
  mention that the drummer Taylor Hawkins is also there who
• 28:26
  recently passed away suddenly and this might be one of his
• 28:29
  final TV performances which is pretty.
• 28:32
  I mean it's really it's sad obviously but it's the feels
• 28:34
  much more special that he got to be a part of this.
• 28:37
  Yeah, absolutely. Hmm.
• 28:40
  It was something super fun. Yes.
• 28:43
  Me too and you know as Muppet fans we all get to appreciate
• 28:47
  him for the work. He did.
• 28:49
  You know for this one one little piece of Muppet history after
• 28:54
  the postcard. Boober unsurprisingly is not
• 28:57
  feeling very inspired. He says soup isn't meaningful.
• 29:03
  That's lunch. And honestly, I kind of agree.
• 29:07
  Even though soup is often a disappointing lunch, Gobo
• 29:11
  decides to cheer him up, he's going to write him a song.
• 29:14
  And he sings this like be Babu. Birdie dot-to-dot number song.
• 29:19
  Yeah, that's a good one. I dig that one.
• 29:22
  It was good, and he's like, he kind of congratulates himself,
• 29:25
  like, yep, another perfect Gobo song.
• 29:27
  I love that up. This about this version of Gobo
• 29:29
  that. He's just like, yeah, I write
• 29:30
  songs and they're all brilliant and Everyone likes it and they
• 29:33
  like me because of it. And I look great in every hat
• 29:36
  and he looks good in every hat. Yeah, incredible it ties nicely
• 29:42
  to that moment and episode 1 where a Up his picture that he
• 29:45
  drew for Uncle traveling Matt and it's just like the stick.
• 29:47
  Figure thing and Wembley's like us, is there anything you can't
• 29:50
  do gobos one accomplish, dude? Yeah, that's true.
• 29:57
  And I mean, I posited, the theory in an earlier podcast
• 30:00
  episode that every song Gobo rights is just a variation of
• 30:03
  the Fraggle Rock theme song because that's the birthday song
• 30:06
  he sings for Wembley and Wendy's birthday per episode.
• 30:09
  And this unfortunately kind of debunks that theory but I don't
• 30:14
  know, maybe maybe draft to it'll sound a little bit more, maybe
• 30:16
  they'll add a couple of handclaps that'll do it.
• 30:19
  That's later in the series. He's branching in a New
• 30:20
  Direction, like the Beatles, you know?
• 30:22
  Exactly? Right.
• 30:26
  So Boomer has now for soup cauldrons going at once with all
• 30:29
  these different soups and they're not tasting, so great.
• 30:33
  He needs more radishes. So he goes to the pantry and who
• 30:37
  does he see? But well, it depends on if
• 30:40
  you're an old-school fraggle fan or a new school fraggle fan.
• 30:44
  I've been calling him big uni because that's who he was on the
• 30:47
  old show, but now he's Bongo. But booney was originally seen
• 30:51
  in the episode, The Incredible Shrinking Mochi and later the
• 30:55
  puppet was used in Muppet Christmas, Carol Muppet Treasure
• 30:57
  Island. So, you might recognize this
• 30:58
  this furry bunny looking to dude.
• 31:01
  But here he's Bongo. It's a totally different
• 31:04
  character played by you Amy is that right?
• 31:07
  Oh yeah. So how did how did that happen?
• 31:10
  He shows up actually a lot throughout The throughout the
• 31:14
  series just he kind of like Pops in you know, edger frame or he's
• 31:18
  in the background and quite a bit.
• 31:20
  But that was that was a Johnny thing that was just like a me do
• 31:22
  this. Oh great which is sort of like
• 31:25
  how we got assigned. Things loves the casting.
• 31:29
  Yeah it was one of those kind of situations but it was not like
• 31:39
  you need to because this this world is.
• 31:42
  I'm sure you guys have talked It is another another episodes this
• 31:46
  world is parallel to the Fraggle Rock World, right.
• 31:48
  It's not like beginning in another timeline it's like
• 31:51
  parallel timelines that wherever and however he existed in
• 31:56
  Fraggle Rock before in this one it's kind of new and isolate so
• 32:02
  everything kind of we can we could own things a little more
• 32:05
  wasn't right is its precious right?
• 32:08
  And it also makes sense for things like you know as much as
• 32:11
  I would love it. If you were like it's Mikuni.
• 32:13
  Bourbon guney and then the to fans of jub like I do.
• 32:17
  But but you would have to like then incorporate The Goonies
• 32:23
  personality and history, and to this one moment, which is maybe
• 32:26
  not worth it especially because, like, begoony in that old
• 32:28
  episode is like a bit of a sad sack and overemotional, and has
• 32:32
  these weird magic powers. And it's like we just need
• 32:35
  someone who's gonna be eating radishes.
• 32:36
  Don't ya, participate? Right?
• 32:38
  Right, right. For sure, Pantry, eater radish,
• 32:42
  rival, light, go. The stunt is how to keep the
• 32:46
  right of crumble in the puppets mouth before he speaks.
• 32:49
  And then, yes, that was literally what I was about to
• 32:52
  ask. It's like, how did the actual
• 32:54
  eating of that wretch? Because it looks like there's
• 32:56
  crumbs all over his face in their flying, I am talking
• 33:00
  preset every time. Okay, solid solid preset, thank
• 33:04
  you props. So I would assume by the end of
• 33:07
  the shoot you're just like standing in a pile of fake
• 33:10
  radish crumbs. Oh yeah, full on in my like in
• 33:13
  the hair. Are like next morning, still
• 33:15
  picking them up. Yeah, yeah, it's great.
• 33:17
  What was that, what was that made out of uh, out of
• 33:19
  curiosity. Do you know crumbs?
• 33:23
  Yeah, it's just like there was just felt like little pieces of
• 33:26
  foam. Yeah, I mean they would it was
• 33:28
  like a little foam radish that they and then I think they
• 33:31
  flocked they would use that little flocking stuff on it and
• 33:33
  then paint that saw them when they would go to crumble it.
• 33:37
  It was literally just closed foam and flock the Plucky fleas.
• 33:43
  Let me play is its television. Magic is what it is?
• 33:47
  Yeah, boober. Now obviously out of radishes
• 33:52
  has to go into the gorgs garden to get some more.
• 33:55
  It's going to be quick and easy trip, right?
• 33:57
  No. Nothing's going to go wrong, but
• 33:59
  just as he gets there Philo and gunge pop out of nowhere,
• 34:02
  panicked screaming. They are begging for boobers
• 34:05
  help and take him directly to the trash Heap.
• 34:09
  This is our first shot of the trash heap of this episode and
• 34:12
  she's sick. So she's not looking like her
• 34:14
  normal trashy self. I do want to talk a little bit.
• 34:19
  We got to get back into the plot but before we do, let's talk
• 34:21
  about the trash Heap herself. So can each of you tell me what
• 34:25
  your responsibilities were for which part of the trash Heap?
• 34:30
  It's like Amy. I assumed that you were to the
• 34:31
  mouth in the voice, right? I was yeah.
• 34:34
  So inside of this trash Heap, she's kind of like a giant Leaf
• 34:40
  tent, all right. Imagine if you will a giant Leaf
• 34:44
  tent. We're like the where the top of
• 34:47
  her head is like this Dome with a pole that holds her up, right?
• 34:52
  And there's like a little trigger for her little blinky
• 34:55
  eyes which are just like, just two gigantic, you know, sockets
• 35:00
  of Of of nothingness, and then he's got a little, she's got a
• 35:04
  little mouth. That's kind of, like, always
• 35:06
  just getting sad that you just sort of flap, open, and close
• 35:10
  this way. So, um, you're like, holding
• 35:12
  this poll and holding a spot, so I have no other arms left.
• 35:15
  So then I have my two beautiful assistants who will become the,
• 35:20
  who, who literally, I don't, I don't think that Marjorie would
• 35:24
  be a character, if, if, if it wasn't for these two beautiful.
• 35:30
  for humans because they all I was doing is this Miss and
• 35:36
  giving her a voice and then they, that's it, you know, just
• 35:44
  into a metal harness, every one of these drum major, you
• 35:59
  know, Like a marching band. And with like this little cup
• 36:05
  that you would put the poll in. And so, I don't have to go into
• 36:07
  deep squat to kind of get her to go like to go down.
• 36:10
  And then once I was like standing up fully then she was
• 36:13
  like completely you know, she was her full size but then I
• 36:20
  mean the amount of space in there was very limited.
• 36:26
  We all smelled very nice. And love the love each other
• 36:32
  dearly because of it, I mean we were any other any other three
• 36:38
  humans. I don't think would have had as
• 36:40
  good of a time because we were all just so like we were so into
• 36:44
  it was like okay this is gonna suck for a little bit but we're
• 36:47
  going to make this look really good because we're we were all
• 36:51
  so close that it was that there was no way to not understand
• 36:55
  what the other person was doing so that kind of helped on the
• 36:58
  inside and some good ones. No, please God.
• 37:02
  No, somebody would tell me. Oh yeah, it used to be a solo
• 37:05
  thing and I'm thinking there is no way, no way human cannot come
• 37:09
  to you that there's no way. I mean unless you're like,
• 37:12
  sitting on a stool with your like legs, going to know, Jerry
• 37:16
  Nelson had four arms. So he was able to do this by
• 37:20
  that. Well, that isn't bad.
• 37:22
  Yes, after the surgery he was able to do a lot more.
• 37:25
  Correct. Yes.
• 37:27
  Ingrid and Kira. So you each took one Unarmed.
• 37:31
  Is that right? Yeah, we took arms off of
• 37:34
  strangers. We know, I always ask someone.
• 37:40
  I know no Ingrid, was on the left, and I was on the right.
• 37:45
  So we had, I think they were snowmobile gloves that we put
• 37:50
  inside our hands to fill out. Those fingers a little bit
• 37:52
  better. And then we kind of, like, I'm
• 37:55
  going to visually demonstrate this great for a podcast, like,
• 37:58
  reach forward into the The arm and then we kind of would
• 38:02
  position our bodies like facing a me.
• 38:06
  Uh yeah, I can see that you're facing the netting of the puppet
• 38:19
  and your nose is smushed up against right?
• 38:21
  Papa? Yeah, that makes sense.
• 38:23
  And I we assume the kid. I had a monitor in between each
• 38:28
  between us. Down so that we could see what
• 38:31
  was happening. Think we had to sometimes that
• 38:33
  they'd be at the right angle so we could see them.
• 38:35
  Yes. Yeah.
• 38:35
  And the name he had another monitor kind of behind.
• 38:38
  Um yeah I was doing one of these side.
• 38:43
  Look I'm looking at my side. Yeah.
• 38:45
  Yeah. And then I would also have to
• 38:47
  assume that when there are probably some scenes where the
• 38:51
  following guns are awfully close maybe even like on top of the
• 38:54
  trash Heap and you have to make puppeteers in that in that
• 38:58
  puppet with you. Yeah, Lee.
• 39:00
  Leaning upon me like, whoa. Oh, it was great.
• 39:07
  They weren't underneath with you, where they know on the
• 39:10
  derelict hind you there on the ground behind me, but like upon,
• 39:13
  you know, because it happened we have to, like, could make
• 39:15
  connection with with the Heap. So they're like, I'm gonna rest
• 39:19
  right here and I'm like, I'm gonna hold you tight.
• 39:21
  Cuz I Just wrong and someone I got it.
• 39:34
  I can't remember who mentioned in an earlier episode that
• 39:36
  you're also like up on a riser, right.
• 39:39
  Let's a good to get the right. So, are you literally just like
• 39:43
  six inches away? From just make a misstep and
• 39:45
  then the whole puppet comes crashing down on the ground with
• 39:47
  you. No, no, no.
• 39:49
  It was wide enough. So if I think it was literally
• 39:52
  just a big block of Styrofoam because the set has to be raised
• 39:57
  high enough. That the puppeteers who Art
• 40:00
  inside a pile of leaves, can still reach over their heads to
• 40:04
  do their performance. And so we needed to be hired so
• 40:09
  that Marjorie could rise higher. So I think the block was about.
• 40:12
  What do you think? Three feet tall?
• 40:15
  Got my God. Yeah and then maybe like three
• 40:19
  feet of Headroom again then between us and the set, right?
• 40:22
  And we just end and then Marjorie would make a little
• 40:24
  Dome when she was down because she would like compress and
• 40:28
  raised think like, like a like A springy not springy, I'm not
• 40:33
  using the right word, but she could raise and lower obviously.
• 40:36
  And so at like a neutral seated position, we could just kind of
• 40:41
  hang out in there. It was like our Fort.
• 40:44
  We supposed to lay down, we were just like a lie down, we would
• 40:47
  lie down between these styrofoam doesn't get cold.
• 40:51
  No, we're always like a little nuggets, that look like great.
• 40:54
  Yeah, wait, you guys have great Mets in Canada?
• 40:56
  Who put like a little brown It was like a granola look.
• 41:02
  Yeah decoration on. Is that to like as like fake
• 41:04
  dirt? Sure.
• 41:06
  Yeah. But it would just but because
• 41:08
  marjorie's kind of like made out of mesh they would like kind of
• 41:10
  just come through so it's like Rain Down on Me.
• 41:13
  Maybe I ain't raining on me rain.
• 41:16
  Yeah it was just kind of raining down because it's awesome.
• 41:19
  Yeah. So I also have to know about
• 41:23
  Marjorie as a character like, there's obviously some big
• 41:26
  changes between the old Marjorie and the new one.
• 41:30
  The most Obvious, of course, is the fact that, you know, she was
• 41:33
  previously performed by Jerry Nelson, who was male identifying
• 41:37
  person and now rightfully, so this female characters performed
• 41:41
  by women, what, in your eyes is different or updated between the
• 41:48
  old Marjorie, and your version of Marjorie. well when I was
• 41:54
  what I was listening to or watching the fraggles to try to
• 41:57
  figure out where am I gonna place this voice because at the
• 42:01
  very beginning Jerry had her almost like a very Eastern
• 42:08
  European like almost like this in like not really
• 42:12
  distinguishable kind of voice but then like as the series
• 42:15
  progressed it kind of fell into this like he found his Groove
• 42:21
  and I was sort of like I kept asking questions, I was like,
• 42:23
  well, how how how how how much of this do you want, you know,
• 42:28
  and in my head I was just trying to sort of like I knew I could
• 42:33
  deliver like Mother Earth eat Mists but I didn't I didn't want
• 42:39
  to kind of skew any specific culture, you know, but because
• 42:48
  Philemon grunge were so very distinctively.
• 42:52
  You know what? He's like, Brooklyn or jerseys
• 42:56
  Jersey their Jersey. Yeah, yeah.
• 42:58
  So they were like, yeah, she can live in that.
• 43:02
  Old which I was like okay you know but in my head I'm like
• 43:07
  thinking that now here it I'm going to hear people lot like
• 43:13
  this boys and not like these choices and you know and I'm I
• 43:18
  was so relieved when people are like yeah yeah bring her back
• 43:22
  you know like I was so I felt really honored because it was
• 43:25
  it's terrifying doing a Legacy character.
• 43:28
  I need to like just flat out say that it's like Because you have
• 43:33
  this you know and I and you know Jerry Nelson, rest in peace.
• 43:38
  Like thank you so much for this. This beautiful gift of allowing
• 43:42
  me to be able to do this, but it's, you know, I can't imagine
• 43:46
  what it must be like, for people doing Legacy characters that are
• 43:49
  still with us, you know, like a like, oh my gosh.
• 43:53
  Look at that, that kind of Terror that you kind of
• 43:58
  experience of wanting to, to just really Smash and feel match
• 44:04
  the the original character, but you know, I was given a lot of
• 44:12
  notes and, and really tried to get her in a pocket.
• 44:15
  And in my head, you know, when I, when I think about going into
• 44:18
  her, I think about Mark, she's kind of like a little bit of a
• 44:21
  Peter Griffin for me, you know, like a female Peter, Peter grow
• 44:25
  my God, where I kind of go, but, but, like, you know, it's not
• 44:29
  necessarily, she's not completely.
• 44:32
  We Peter Griffin. But you know and then it's like
• 44:34
  every woman from New York that I've ever met.
• 44:36
  Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 44:38
  Like so. And every mother I've ever known
• 44:43
  as well because again in the end that's what I feel that she that
• 44:47
  she sort of is in represents. Yeah, I like that a lot that
• 44:51
  she's more of a motherly character than like this like
• 44:54
  ethereal Sage thing you know that like she's basically made
• 45:01
  up of more magic than Then mother which now it's kind of
• 45:05
  flipped where it's like us are still magic but like you can
• 45:07
  still have a conversation with her, you know, she's not just
• 45:10
  speaking in these weird, you know, cliches and vague hints
• 45:14
  at, you know, like you don't really understand what the heck
• 45:17
  she was talking about until the 22 minutes are up.
• 45:20
  Right? Right.
• 45:21
  Just like oh that's what she meant, right.
• 45:23
  Right. Right.
• 45:24
  Yeah. We do get a bit of that in this
• 45:25
  episode. Yeah, I just realized that in
• 45:29
  the fraggles own with the fraggles.
• 45:32
  They don't have. Parents and children.
• 45:33
  So there aren't really any kind of mother type characters in the
• 45:36
  cactus or fraggles and that's how Marjorie she is like a like
• 45:40
  a the wise mother because we have Ma gorg and we yeah, the
• 45:46
  right raggles. Don't the chill Kragle shoulder
• 45:48
  just kind of gamble about and like eat sticks off the floor,
• 45:52
  right? And as we were saying before
• 45:54
  like in Fraggle, Rock the 50 characters who are supposed to
• 45:57
  be these like adults, you know you end up with like world's
• 46:00
  oldest fraggle and I see Joe And I guess large Marvin is
• 46:04
  technically an adult because he's part of the wise counsel,
• 46:07
  like these are not, anyone likes no one with any kind of real
• 46:10
  Authority. The one who actually knows
• 46:12
  anything about how the world Works knowing that anyone even
• 46:15
  really kind of looks up to, you know, except in a, you know, a
• 46:19
  stature kind of waiting on them in a parental, kind of way.
• 46:22
  So yes, I'm Marjorie is pretty much it like, that is the
• 46:24
  parental character for all the fraggles.
• 46:27
  That's a lot of pressure for one trash Heap.
• 46:30
  Right? Right, right.
• 46:32
  Right. Well, unfortunately, for this
• 46:38
  this maternal figure. She is ill.
• 46:41
  She is sick. She says, I may be trashed, but
• 46:44
  I feel like garbage. It's just I say that all the
• 46:48
  time, mostly the first half of that sentence, I like that.
• 46:52
  She's got like a hot water bottle on her head and she's got
• 46:55
  what looks like two, tiny trash bags, I think otherwise a little
• 46:59
  doggie bags under her eyes. Look what a great.
• 47:03
  What a great little touch. I didn't notice that until, like
• 47:07
  my third viewing of this episode, The like, oh, that's
• 47:09
  not just leaves. Its there's actually a little
• 47:11
  little bags. What a great.
• 47:13
  Yeah. Was there anything else that
• 47:15
  kind of indicated that she was sick?
• 47:16
  Physically that I maybe missed that you can monitor show
• 47:21
  thermometer to do. I miss that.
• 47:22
  Yeah at the very beginning. Yeah I don't know if it did it,
• 47:26
  make it in the cut, it probably did and I just have so much
• 47:29
  going on, you know, the Bears was it always Is with the trash
• 47:33
  Heap. Yeah, yeah.
• 47:35
  Yeah. One point, they talked about
• 47:37
  doing an extra wilted, banana peel on her head and happened.
• 47:41
  I can't recall, but it was just supposed to like slide like just
• 47:44
  like even more rotted. A nasty than usual, lovely.
• 47:49
  Oh, keep an eye out for that. Well, do all try to do like a
• 47:52
  side by side comparison of banana peels for.
• 47:56
  She tells boober that he is the only one who can save her.
• 47:59
  I don't know why In This Moment. Nobody's asking.
• 48:02
  Ey. Can't follow Philo and gunge.
• 48:04
  Save her. We I mean there is an answer
• 48:07
  will get to eventually but like in the moment it's like oh you
• 48:09
  just need to go underground and you know like these guys are the
• 48:12
  same size as a fraggle sudden, one of them, right?
• 48:15
  Right. Boober does not realistically do
• 48:18
  you think Philo and gunge have ever done anything useful?
• 48:21
  That's a good question. I mean they for other than
• 48:24
  pumping up Marjorie, of course for her.
• 48:27
  I feel like they probably have but it's been like Stuff.
• 48:32
  It's been like, oh, you need me to get you, you know an apple
• 48:36
  corer. Great.
• 48:36
  I'll go find you an apple core. Great.
• 48:38
  Now I'm your favorite of the day but like yeah, but since going
• 48:41
  on right men? Yeah, right, yeah.
• 48:43
  Like they're not they're not gonna like, you know scale the
• 48:46
  mountain for her. They're not gonna return that
• 48:49
  one true ring to Mordor or whatever.
• 48:53
  Now no they're not. Quite qualified.
• 48:56
  Know exactly. We interrupt this podcast for a
• 49:00
  special postcard from our Uncle traveling.
• 49:03
  John's Heart, A glia and A fraggle fast facts.
• 49:07
  Today's fraggle, fast factors! Yes!
• 49:09
  You recognize that puppet and reusing reintroducing background
• 49:12
  puppets. So when I was a kid, one of my
• 49:14
  favorite parts of watching Fraggle, Rock were all the
• 49:16
  background characters, I loved them.
• 49:18
  The Ink Spots. The cave creatures, even though
• 49:20
  they rarely were part of the main stories, they were part of
• 49:23
  the life of the Rock and we knew it was really important with
• 49:25
  back to the Rock to keep that going.
• 49:28
  So, we were so lucky because the Creature Shop had so many of the
• 49:32
  original Background puppets in storage and they pulled them out
• 49:35
  and it was like Christmas morning opening these boxes and
• 49:37
  finding these beautiful background puppets that some of
• 49:40
  which hadn't been used in years and years probably since the
• 49:43
  Show wrapped in the 80s. So the Creature Shop,
• 49:45
  refurbished them and rebuild some of them and it was so
• 49:48
  exciting on set to get to, to use them.
• 49:51
  So that bhikkhuni you see in the background now known as Bongo
• 49:54
  that is the original, those Ink Spots are the original, they're
• 49:56
  all refurbished, but they are the original and then it was fun
• 49:59
  to come up with new little creatures.
• 50:01
  But Yeah, that was one of the joys of the show was keeping
• 50:05
  that idea that there was a whole world to this rock that exists
• 50:09
  beyond the main fraggles and and, you know, you got to keep
• 50:12
  your eyes peeled, we really threw in a bunch of fun, little
• 50:15
  Easter eggs, for all of you out there, I had a blast, you know,
• 50:19
  throwing mud well, the mud bunny in the background or again, but
• 50:22
  booney or whoever we could find at the flute bird and all those
• 50:25
  great characters. So, keep your eyes open for
• 50:27
  them. They're all there.
• 50:28
  And that's your fraggle Fastback.
• 50:29
  Now, back to the podcast. So boober is not thinking that
• 50:37
  he's the right fraggle for the job, he's sick.
• 50:39
  So He suggests Gobo or red, or maybe Wembley or Mochi, maybe
• 50:43
  even pogie which honestly, I would have want to see that
• 50:47
  episode Hoagie going. A little solo journey to write a
• 50:51
  spin-off or a fan fiction versions exactly right.
• 50:56
  Sundra fanfiction to Ingrid Hanson, the Marjorie tells
• 51:03
  boober, you must go in To the trash which is the name of this
• 51:07
  episode and she gestures behind her to the mountain of trash of
• 51:12
  like just this huge landfill which we've never, I never even
• 51:16
  thought about the fact that there was more than just this
• 51:19
  little piece of Marjorie. Like she is a lot of trash and
• 51:28
  she's helped Uber. She's feeling all broken up
• 51:30
  inside. She needs boober to go in and
• 51:32
  put it all together and there's a pizza box that opens.
• 51:35
  Up. And there's a tunnel inside that
• 51:37
  leads underground which confirms my theory that the gorgs can and
• 51:42
  do receive pizza delivery. I mean, right, we're also they
• 51:54
  have gotten the box, right? That's what I'm saying.
• 51:58
  Boober gets sucked into that tunnel, he goes head first down
• 52:02
  this thing and he falls into just this.
• 52:05
  Room completely, huge room, full of trash.
• 52:08
  This is a really impressive set design that I can't imagine what
• 52:12
  it would have looked like in person.
• 52:14
  It was amazing in person. It was a real build like they
• 52:16
  built that whole massive Wald and I think we have to talk
• 52:21
  about how there was trash training from the ceiling
• 52:25
  throughout that shot that scene. Yeah and it's real trash and
• 52:30
  wear helmets. Yeah, it war.
• 52:32
  Huh. Listen helmets and then they had
• 52:35
  All the lovely special effects crew, all these young dudes
• 52:40
  standing behind the wall, with buckets of trash, talking it,
• 52:44
  over the wall, so that it would be constantly raining down on
• 52:47
  us. And so, you'd be doing this
• 52:49
  scene. And, you know, you're doing,
• 52:50
  you're staring at your mind and you're focusing and your, and
• 52:52
  then all of a sudden doing something hits, the clocks, even
• 52:55
  the head, and you're just, it doesn't hurt.
• 52:58
  But it's very jarring because you don't know that it's coming.
• 53:02
  You can't see it coming like big hunks of Plastic garbage and
• 53:06
  stuff, you know, like what? Because the garbage like when
• 53:10
  you say that because I'm sure there's I'm assuming it wasn't
• 53:12
  like tin cans and things like that.
• 53:14
  Rustling, look harder plastic. Yeah, they're like bowls and
• 53:19
  cups and yeah, water bottles. Then like yeah, things that
• 53:24
  things that, that had a little bit of weight to that but not
• 53:28
  anything. That would be super.
• 53:29
  Hurty. Yeah, I never heard but it was
• 53:32
  just very interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 53:36
  startling. Yeah.
• 53:37
  And maybe not good for like performing.
• 53:40
  You know, I have lines to say, man barely over at Kanya and,
• 53:44
  and seeing him deeply concentrating.
• 53:47
  Ashley, and I'm just getting beaned in the head surprised
• 53:50
  face and then back into the scene.
• 53:53
  Just yeah, that was my favorite. That's incredible, man.
• 53:56
  Yeah, well before we figure out what's going on with boober,
• 54:01
  we're going to check in with cotterpin doozer.
• 54:03
  She is driving around In her tiny little doozer car, which is
• 54:06
  adorable, trying to think of ways to fix this goo problem.
• 54:11
  And she comes across the fraggle hole leading into outer space,
• 54:16
  which is once you go through that thing, like she's one of
• 54:20
  very few Fraggle, Rock characters that have crossed
• 54:22
  that threshold, you know, Matt and Bobo for sure.
• 54:25
  You know, maybe in the old series it was a couple other
• 54:27
  examples, but I can't think of any.
• 54:30
  She climbs the hairy Mountain Kira?
• 54:33
  I assume that was you climbing up on?
• 54:35
  Rockets back. Yeah that was my first day on
• 54:37
  set it was your first day. Yeah that that's all that stuff
• 54:43
  with cotter pin was well okay so we shot that stuff.
• 54:48
  My first day and then we did some reshoots later in front of
• 54:51
  the blue screen because they're that that that first day there'd
• 54:56
  been some issues with like the RC puppets and the live at live
• 54:59
  puppets. But I was there trying to figure
• 55:01
  out how to make cotter pin. Climb breathing sprocket with
• 55:04
  Don. On one side and Karen on the
• 55:07
  other side. Like, oh god dude.
• 55:09
  Good job, please. Not to impress them.
• 55:13
  It's your first day. That that no joke.
• 55:16
  I don't want to gloss over that. That sounds terrifying like as
• 55:20
  nice as both of those humans are their wonderful human beings.
• 55:24
  But also to be crammed between them and doing like in front of
• 55:29
  these very talented puppeteers and showing off your own
• 55:31
  puppetry with they're literally right next to you.
• 55:34
  That sounds terrifying. Sighing intimidating, intent
• 55:37
  intimidating but yeah, Donna, Karen are the nicest people on
• 55:41
  the planet so that it that helps, that's good.
• 55:44
  Yeah. And like you said, sprocket
• 55:47
  really. Looks like he's breathing, which
• 55:48
  is a nice touch. Yeah, I'm so believe, Johnny was
• 55:52
  there doing like just the simple breath movement for sprocket at
• 55:56
  the time? Yeah, yeah.
• 55:58
  And again, like, because he's supposed to be asleep, so like
• 56:01
  to just give them a little bit of life but also like then
• 56:03
  you're as Cotter pin. On top and trying to match the
• 56:07
  rise and fall while climbing while reciting lines, you know,
• 56:13
  that sounds like a lot of business.
• 56:15
  Yeah, I think, I think Karen was on like the main body movement
• 56:19
  and Donna was doing like the face and I was on the hands, so
• 56:26
  trying to get that to two brains one straw thing.
• 56:29
  Frank always talks about Yeah. Two brains one straw.
• 56:34
  Sorry, that's the thing. Frank mesh collider always says
• 56:36
  is when you're assisting someone with a puppet and there's two of
• 56:39
  you working on the puppet, it's two brains one straw.
• 56:42
  Hmm. I like that me to steal it
• 56:45
  covering climbs up onto docks table, and finds that loose
• 56:48
  screw and uses her teeny tiny drill to reinstall.
• 56:51
  It turns out that's all you needed.
• 56:53
  The whole time was a little, a little doozer power.
• 56:56
  She says a place for everything and everything in its place,
• 56:58
  which is a nice, nice little adage.
• 57:02
  And she spots docks blueprints for her bacteria and
• 57:08
  conveniently. There's a lot of illustrations
• 57:09
  so she can read the whole thing without knowing English.
• 57:12
  And she notes that this thing uses nature to heal nature and
• 57:18
  maybe she can do the same. What an inspiration.
• 57:22
  This also Harkens back to an earlier episode of back to the
• 57:25
  rock where doc overhears cotter pin coming through her.
• 57:31
  With speaker and and they kind of have the smaller.
• 57:34
  They don't really get to talk to each other.
• 57:36
  But they do kind of have like this unofficial communication
• 57:39
  and I kind of like the idea of Doc and cotter pin as this
• 57:43
  interesting unofficial team up. Yeah, they're both.
• 57:49
  So I think underestimated a little bit and they have
• 57:54
  confidence in themselves and sometimes that waivers.
• 57:58
  But yeah, they create a really nice parallel with one another
• 58:02
  definitely and like, they're both tinkerers, you know,
• 58:05
  they're both, they're both inventors, thinkers scientists.
• 58:08
  Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. And he's making stuff happen.
• 58:12
  Exactly and hopefully maybe we'll see like in a real team up
• 58:16
  between the two of them in season two, fingers crossed back
• 58:22
  in trash mountain, boober is panicking and trying to climb
• 58:26
  out. There's a cool puppetry trick
• 58:27
  where we see him like actually scaling the side of this trash
• 58:30
  wall and then like you see his feet dangling because he's kind
• 58:33
  of on the ceiling and then he falls, he says he's looking
• 58:36
  around, he finds mokey's old Sketchbook, he finds a Kragle
• 58:39
  pillow. A doozer helmets, smeargle.
• 58:42
  All's, I also have to assume there's so much stuff on the
• 58:45
  walls and just everywhere in the scene that there must be like
• 58:49
  Easter eggs, you know, from previous episodes or just
• 58:52
  fraggle or that I couldn't spot just because it's just too much
• 58:56
  stuff, boober discovers with all this stuff that the trash Heap
• 59:00
  isn't just gorg trash, it's from everyone.
• 59:03
  The fraggles, the myrtles, the crackles, the Doozers, the trash
• 59:07
  Heap is made up of all of us, which is another episode title.
• 59:11
  Just the All of Us Part, not the The trash Heap is made up of
• 59:13
  part and trash Heap. It's true.
• 59:18
  The trash Heap is also specifically made up of the
• 59:20
  three of you so that all we're bringing it back around.
• 59:24
  See what we did there. Nice nice nice.
• 59:28
  It was fine. It's a very polite laugh for
• 59:31
  that. Okay, so he well back in
• 59:35
  Fraggle. Rock things are coming to a head
• 59:38
  red and mokey or fighting over a bucket, the Doozers are
• 59:40
  destroying their own. Auctions.
• 59:42
  Because the fraggles won't eat them.
• 59:45
  Yeah. And Wrecking Ball.
• 59:47
  Yeah, there's a cool like seem to like it looks like a buff.
• 59:51
  You're the big beach, I'm the beefy guy but then, my favorite
• 59:54
  part was Karen prowl is voicing and manipulating the doozer that
• 59:58
  rides the wrecking ball like, you know, I love music video and
• 1:00:03
  the best part was when they were shooting that we could just hear
• 1:00:05
  Karen's voice ringing out through this Giants.
• 1:00:07
  Soundstage and Karen was so consistent like dude.
• 1:00:12
  Her style in that. They're this characters riding a
• 1:00:15
  Wrecking Ball, but and they're being excited but they're doozer
• 1:00:18
  level of excited and the juicers are workaholic.
• 1:00:20
  So it's just been just yank the longest time of which can, which
• 1:00:33
  is so intensely consistent. It was so funny.
• 1:00:36
  So funny. We're all just sitting over in
• 1:00:37
  the corner of the studio, you know, in our waiting holding
• 1:00:40
  area waiting and just lose. Are losing it laughing.
• 1:00:44
  Just hey, yay, that's hysterical.
• 1:00:51
  Now we you mentioned earlier about the fraggles, you know,
• 1:00:53
  you guys creating the, you know, the these backstories and
• 1:00:56
  personalities for all these background characters and I
• 1:01:00
  first of all have to assume that you're doing the same for the
• 1:01:01
  Doozers. But this one in particular this
• 1:01:04
  this giant strongman doozer must there must be more to whoever
• 1:01:11
  they are like it's There was a character that you would created
• 1:01:13
  in your own head Cannon. I mean, the best but my favorite
• 1:01:19
  part about that Doozers to build him, they had to take two doozer
• 1:01:23
  bodies, cut them in half and like and like MacGyver them
• 1:01:27
  together. That's how the heat they built
• 1:01:30
  this Beefcake doozer. It's this is Frankenstein to
• 1:01:34
  were joking earlier, but like stealing arms off of a person,
• 1:01:37
  so that Joe and I'll soak it up for arms, but that's literally
• 1:01:41
  cake dessert. Yeah, which, I mean, I love
• 1:01:44
  anytime, I get to play characters that are Like
• 1:01:47
  masculine character is drag character.
• 1:01:49
  So, that's one of my favs just life goals, drag characters all
• 1:01:54
  the time. That's great.
• 1:01:59
  I also liked I know this wasn't your intention to give him this
• 1:02:01
  name but Beefcake doozer sounds pretty good, I like that.
• 1:02:06
  Yeah it's Cannon. Now we said, oh podcast.
• 1:02:12
  The other thing that's happening here is that pile gorg is making
• 1:02:16
  Throw away his plants, junior, junior down the well, and into
• 1:02:20
  the fraggle Pond. And basically, the sky is
• 1:02:23
  falling because this giant for them, this giant tree has just
• 1:02:27
  plummeted out of the sky and into the fraggle Pond.
• 1:02:30
  This is our one real shot of the gorgs in this episode.
• 1:02:33
  And unfortunately, we don't see ma gorg, but forget it.
• 1:02:36
  We're going to talk about it. Anyway, so Amy and Ingrid.
• 1:02:41
  The two of you teamed up to play ma gorg, which I I mean, we
• 1:02:47
  don't get a lot of her in this season at all, but what was it
• 1:02:50
  like? Kind of getting back into into
• 1:02:52
  that character that we hadn't seen since the original series
• 1:02:55
  again, you said it was like, it's another Legacy character.
• 1:02:58
  So, that's its own challenges. This is a very big open ended
• 1:03:01
  question to just talk about ma gorg.
• 1:03:03
  However, you'd like so, I will leave it at that and hand it off
• 1:03:05
  to you. I first of all, I love the
• 1:03:08
  Ingrid had so much experience being inside of of walk-arounds
• 1:03:13
  all together and how comfortable she was in using her body.
• 1:03:16
  So I loved her making choices like making big making big bold
• 1:03:27
  choices and I could just kind of like go with like why?
• 1:03:30
  When we would like we would talk a lot about like you know what
• 1:03:34
  she was able to do in the body. You know, because of course
• 1:03:37
  visibility and then also just, you know, to gorgs, they would
• 1:03:42
  always seem to put them in very small places.
• 1:03:44
  So like range of movement was not always ideal like what can
• 1:03:51
  you do? So we you know, just little
• 1:03:54
  things like that it to end to make her very you know look as
• 1:03:59
  feminine as possible because then her mind, right?
• 1:04:01
  She's like Queen in the castle and all of that and in greater
• 1:04:04
  is Marilla. We intend being able to kind of
• 1:04:08
  bring that, you know, bring that to life and and make her as
• 1:04:13
  girly as possible when she's basically wearing a house of
• 1:04:17
  made of like home. So but Ingrid you you talk about
• 1:04:25
  your oh, we had so much fun working together Amy and I we
• 1:04:28
  just gelled you know, and we trusted each other and we just
• 1:04:31
  like rolled with it together and we communicate.
• 1:04:34
  And you know, I had Amy's voice in a little your butt.
• 1:04:36
  My ear so that I could hear because sometimes the whirring
• 1:04:40
  of the mechanics inside the face of the public can be quite loud,
• 1:04:43
  you can't hear very well. So yeah, I had an ear but of a
• 1:04:46
  me in my ear that Amy could also hear me and oh yeah, it was.
• 1:04:51
  I love her so much. My I always wanted to do more
• 1:04:57
  prop comedy to. There are a few things we did
• 1:04:59
  get to do. But yeah, it's like with those
• 1:05:04
  giant characters, your Your yeah I think there's a be so much fun
• 1:05:10
  to get to play with her more or there's so much more we could do
• 1:05:13
  we did some rehearsals where we're doing a lot of full body
• 1:05:15
  movement together with her and Pie and and the relationship
• 1:05:19
  between her and pod that there's still you know there's still so
• 1:05:22
  much fire in their marriage even though Germany their marriage.
• 1:05:26
  They're very, you know they go away to to like love mountain or
• 1:05:30
  all these different places for like kissy time.
• 1:05:36
  That's always. So fun is the relationship with
• 1:05:39
  he heard. Papa and she, you know, she
• 1:05:40
  dotes on her son. He's just the most special
• 1:05:43
  amazing human in the absolute world and no one could ever
• 1:05:47
  changed her mind about that. You know.
• 1:05:50
  Yeah we had a lot of fun to playing with with any Hayward
• 1:05:54
  who is in the body of paw and yeah the two of them chasing
• 1:05:59
  each other around in circles and stuff we get to see them were.
• 1:06:03
  Yeah definitely yeah it was a little disappointing that like
• 1:06:06
  we got A good amount of junior gorg in the season but Papa and
• 1:06:08
  Mama were pretty much relegated to like sticking their head out
• 1:06:11
  the window in the castle and that's it.
• 1:06:14
  And Moz outfit. I know that the public was
• 1:06:18
  refurbed a bit but like, it's for the most part.
• 1:06:19
  It's still, the old ma gorg puppet from the Original Series,
• 1:06:23
  right? Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  It didn't smell like puppet for Four Seasons and then stored it
• 1:06:30
  for 30 years and it didn't smell.
• 1:06:33
  How did, what kind of Wizardry is involved in?
• 1:06:36
  I don't know, it's magic. That is better.
• 1:06:39
  It's fraggle magic and I assume that you used gourd Vision,
• 1:06:44
  which for people who don't know is when there's cameras in the
• 1:06:47
  eyes of the puppet, and you've got a monitor right in front of
• 1:06:50
  your eyes. So you could kind of see from
• 1:06:52
  her perspective. Is that right?
• 1:06:54
  Yeah, we had we had goggles. So, inside the head, it's very
• 1:06:57
  tight fitting, you know, it's a, it's a helmet.
• 1:07:00
  That is structurally holding up the the structure of the head.
• 1:07:03
  And then there's you pull down, these goggles, the smush room.
• 1:07:06
  Right against your face and his little tiny, the our screens and
• 1:07:09
  the goggles. And then there's, you know,
• 1:07:11
  there's a steel plate that's like an inch from my teeth and
• 1:07:20
  and yeah and then the mechanic there's a, yeah, there's a
• 1:07:22
  camera hidden in my house in my eyes forehead.
• 1:07:25
  So I do you can see but it's quite a limited amount.
• 1:07:29
  You can't see the floor. So you have to really train to
• 1:07:32
  know where your feet are going to walk on that.
• 1:07:36
  Uneven landscape and all the rocks and the tumble isn't
• 1:07:40
  things. The things that Ben did, we're
• 1:07:42
  amazing been durocher playing Junior gorg every day.
• 1:07:46
  I was I was just blown away. He was and he had such an
• 1:07:50
  amazing time doing it. He always had the biggest smile
• 1:07:52
  on his face because she yeah but also been had a different view,
• 1:07:57
  right? Can we talk about that for a
• 1:07:58
  second like that? Like you were able to see you
• 1:08:02
  were able to actually physically, see the floor and
• 1:08:05
  you were actually What you were seeing was a camera out of your
• 1:08:08
  forehead, right? Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  Ben's been was seeing what the camera saw.
• 1:08:14
  So he was getting a different feed.
• 1:08:16
  So, like talk about danger, right?
• 1:08:20
  Like and and with his physical as he was and I've decided I
• 1:08:25
  thought, man, although all three of you I thought were just like
• 1:08:28
  Brave Beyond Compare and these giant suits on this like uneven
• 1:08:32
  Terrain in these giant, like these giant feet and doing step,
• 1:08:36
  you know? Like walking down steps.
• 1:08:38
  It's like and to make it look natural.
• 1:08:40
  We were we were talking about how like, in the first couple of
• 1:08:44
  Seasons thing, they would just keep some of the takes where Moz
• 1:08:47
  skirt would get stuck in a door. Yeah, I'm going.
• 1:08:51
  Keep going. Yeah, schedule.
• 1:08:53
  Yeah. That's what would happen.
• 1:09:09
  But yeah, just like little things like that that you're,
• 1:09:13
  it's like, just playing with hooray, for the technology.
• 1:09:16
  But also, like there is that the challenge of having that
• 1:09:19
  technology and having to learn how to almost Puppeteer again
• 1:09:23
  because like, you know, having having the camera right in the
• 1:09:27
  middle of your forehead, that changes where your puppet EI
• 1:09:31
  Focus. Yes.
• 1:09:32
  Right. Because you're where you want to
• 1:09:34
  do it is, Not where it looks technically.
• 1:09:38
  Right. So we were just yeah.
• 1:09:40
  So we were just kind of like really communicate, Amy, my
• 1:09:43
  looking Amy. Am I looking a little more to
• 1:09:45
  the right? Yes, our little game would be
• 1:09:48
  like, yeah. Just like, look up your chin, a
• 1:09:50
  little bit more, just little things like that.
• 1:09:52
  So we could get the shot that we needed.
• 1:09:57
  Wow, how much did that helmet way with, with the camera and
• 1:10:01
  the monitor? All like, kind of resting on
• 1:10:03
  your poor neck? That is As much as Juniors head.
• 1:10:08
  All right, yeah more servos in it because he had more jicama
• 1:10:14
  movement, right? Yeah.
• 1:10:16
  You be able to set entirely entirely I believe.
• 1:10:18
  Yeah. But it's not too bad, it's
• 1:10:20
  counterweighted. So there's little bags of
• 1:10:22
  pennies at the back of, and into the back of my neck, we were
• 1:10:26
  really, really panties. I think it's pennies.
• 1:10:28
  Yeah. Or nickels nickels, nickels
• 1:10:31
  dimes dollars. Tony's in Canada.
• 1:10:34
  Here we have two knees and the loonies there.
• 1:10:36
  I dollars and two-dollar coins. The Luna has a loon on it.
• 1:10:40
  Yeah, but yeah. So the head is counterweighted
• 1:10:43
  said that it kind of balances because there's a lot of heavy
• 1:10:48
  heavier stuff in the front of the face at a balance that they
• 1:10:50
  put little bags of nickels in the back at that.
• 1:10:53
  Those were the original Nichols from the original series and
• 1:10:57
  they had cut them off at one point and they said you want
• 1:11:00
  these put back on my game, put those back on sleeper.
• 1:11:04
  Had those put on 30 Five years ago, they were put there for a
• 1:11:07
  reason. Trish is a brilliant, human
• 1:11:09
  being and an amazing performer. If she had them put their
• 1:11:12
  there's a reason they're there, you know.
• 1:11:14
  Yeah. Those are those nickels are
• 1:11:15
  worth probably six and a half cents a piece by now.
• 1:11:18
  Oh, yeah. So so yeah.
• 1:11:20
  That's right. Go put the Legacy Nichols.
• 1:11:22
  You probably auction them on the Internet.
• 1:11:24
  Get a lot of money. Oh, really bored Nichols.
• 1:11:25
  Yeah. It's amazing.
• 1:11:31
  I also like I mean it must be frustrating where it's like, you
• 1:11:34
  know, you need the counterweight but also like why is the
• 1:11:37
  solution to add more weight to get the solution?
• 1:11:40
  Be to take some weight off? Yeah and I like this, you know,
• 1:11:44
  long thin swan neck. I kept joking tell my friends
• 1:11:47
  that I was gonna come back from Fraggle Rock with his damn neck.
• 1:11:51
  It's gonna be like a triangle. You know, you're going to look
• 1:11:57
  like that that Beefcake doozer by the end.
• 1:12:00
  Yeah, that's my goal life goals. I want ya to be shredded, like,
• 1:12:03
  Beefcake teaser. Exactly back in the garbage cave
• 1:12:09
  with boober, he keeps Hearing in his head, the voice of the trash
• 1:12:14
  Heap saying, put it all together, put it all together.
• 1:12:17
  And so, you've literally put them all together, the book, The
• 1:12:19
  Pillow, the helmet, the seashells, just put them
• 1:12:21
  together and a giant Soup pot appears, and he says, I'm so I'm
• 1:12:27
  the soup guy down here. You is a, there's a theme Here
• 1:12:31
  for poor boober in his soup and then boober and The Cauldron.
• 1:12:35
  Magically teleport back about above ground in front of the
• 1:12:38
  trash Heap, where you would think this would be, what makes
• 1:12:41
  her feel better, but it does not.
• 1:12:43
  She is getting sicker and sicker by the moment.
• 1:12:47
  And she starts saying pea soup, pea, soup, pea, soup, and this
• 1:12:55
  might be the last thing she ever says, because she then
• 1:12:57
  disappears into the ground and she's compost now, and that's
• 1:13:02
  where the episode ends. And that's sad.
• 1:13:05
  Was there more? I'm sorry.
• 1:13:06
  What's next week? Yeah, right.
• 1:13:09
  How horrible would that be of the episode?
• 1:13:10
  Just end up with this shit here and I can't Too much boober
• 1:13:18
  takes The Cauldron back home and as the trash you told him, he
• 1:13:22
  starts making pea soup. He's got these little Ink Spot
• 1:13:26
  Sous chefs that have the little baker hats oven mitts in aprons
• 1:13:30
  and their adorable. I love a good Ink Spot
• 1:13:32
  appearance and just these little guys are just cute as cute as
• 1:13:36
  all heck, did any of you perform those things spots?
• 1:13:40
  Yeah. Yeah I can't recall which one
• 1:13:46
  like watching. I was like, crap was either
• 1:13:49
  Inkspot pushing the pot, calling the pot running at all runs
• 1:13:56
  together in the ends but I also have to assume that for a lot of
• 1:14:01
  you you know, when you're in a scene and someone says hey we're
• 1:14:06
  going to throw some ink spots in here.
• 1:14:07
  You're like oh man, give me that in a spot like Gomes.
• 1:14:10
  On real quick before anyone could say no, yeah, it's well
• 1:14:13
  bury him yet but they're delicious to to perform there.
• 1:14:18
  They are they just they fit. So nicely on your hand, they're
• 1:14:21
  like they're actually waited. They have they're like little
• 1:14:23
  bags of sand and then they're like, oh, they're so good.
• 1:14:27
  They're like the, you know, they just like they move so well that
• 1:14:30
  they're like really malleable like you could feel like you
• 1:14:33
  feel the history and those little things but they're like
• 1:14:35
  everywhere, they're just laying there little, there's little
• 1:14:38
  celebrities so and then they use them so much in fraggle as well.
• 1:14:44
  Like, I was so happy, you know, because I have a grantee really
• 1:14:49
  look. Great.
• 1:14:50
  Big to say, we don't really, I mean, is is as important as it
• 1:14:54
  was for the series to like bring back all these interesting
• 1:14:57
  background characters and you know like we were talking about,
• 1:15:02
  you know, but booney or or Bongo earlier or the what kind of
• 1:15:09
  thing with like the Third wizard character, things like that.
• 1:15:14
  Like it's very cool to see these characters that we've seen on
• 1:15:16
  the show earlier but the most important has got to be the Ink
• 1:15:21
  Spots like after the fraggles in the Doozers and the gorgs like
• 1:15:24
  the Ink Spots, just Define Fraggle Rock and the world of
• 1:15:28
  Fraggle Rock. So well that it would have.
• 1:15:31
  It would have felt like something is missing honestly if
• 1:15:33
  they weren't there. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:15:37
  Boobers soup is terrible. Pea soup was never his specialty
• 1:15:41
  whirring, it's his specialty. If they can make a soup out of
• 1:15:44
  that, then we'd be set. That's good line, good boober
• 1:15:46
  line, I like it the soup still needs something but Bongo is
• 1:15:52
  still in the cupboard. Having eaten all of the radishes
• 1:15:56
  Bongo was of no help here. Sorry Bongo.
• 1:15:59
  I don't know what you're doing in there, but you gotta go
• 1:16:04
  boober keeps hearing the trash heaps voice in his head.
• 1:16:06
  Put it Together. And so, he literally, once
• 1:16:09
  again, puts it all together, he mixes the Kragle soup in the
• 1:16:11
  Mughal suit, the fraggles soup, the juicer soup.
• 1:16:13
  And this is where we get our first big song of the episode.
• 1:16:17
  Put it all together. It's an original song and
• 1:16:20
  everyone's eating boober soup and they love it.
• 1:16:23
  Everyone loves this new soup. That's got way too many flavors
• 1:16:26
  in it. I'm gonna be honest, like,
• 1:16:28
  that's way too much, there's no way this actually works in your
• 1:16:31
  life, although I would love to see if someone out there wants
• 1:16:33
  to actually make all four of these soups and then mix them
• 1:16:35
  together to see if they taste good.
• 1:16:37
  Good. I would love to hear about it.
• 1:16:38
  Well, they have to mix it in the right proportion, right?
• 1:16:40
  Because the doozer pot was teeny weenie.
• 1:16:43
  Yes, right. Just a little bit of that except
• 1:16:45
  baby corn niblets. One thing I really like about
• 1:16:53
  this is that boobers belubius is glowing as he sings.
• 1:16:56
  We hit to not forget about the fact that he has a glowing
• 1:16:59
  belubius from the episode The Glow earlier in the season.
• 1:17:03
  It's important. You know that's still a part of
• 1:17:04
  him and he's in a glows when he's happy.
• 1:17:07
  And we see he's very happy here, making soup and making a
• 1:17:10
  difference. Because everyone is getting
• 1:17:12
  along once again, and everyone agrees that they are going to
• 1:17:17
  work together to solve their problems, which is a pretty good
• 1:17:20
  plan. Cotter pin, gets them all off to
• 1:17:23
  a good start because she discovered that they can use the
• 1:17:25
  vines to reabsorb the goo in the pond.
• 1:17:28
  So that's one less problem. They have to worry about good
• 1:17:30
  job, cotter pin. And this is the moment where
• 1:17:35
  boober realizes that the Ah, she wasn't saying pea soup.
• 1:17:39
  She was saying peace soup. There's a little cryptic.
• 1:17:43
  Their trash Heap could have been so it's a thinker, he's bringing
• 1:17:59
  her a bowl of soup. Also maybe it'll bring her back
• 1:18:01
  to life, but she's already back to Good Health.
• 1:18:04
  Turns out that she was sick because the fraggles the myrtles
• 1:18:08
  the crackles, the Doozers were not getting along and she is
• 1:18:12
  Made up of everything and everyone.
• 1:18:13
  So therefore when people don't get along the trash Heap,
• 1:18:16
  suffers this brings up a lot of interesting questions about what
• 1:18:22
  actually gives the trash Heap life.
• 1:18:24
  And I don't know, there's a lot of Mythology here that I think
• 1:18:28
  we're ready to unpack in this podcast episode.
• 1:18:31
  I'm assuming that you all have your own theories.
• 1:18:33
  You're welcome to share them or keep them to yourselves, but
• 1:18:38
  feel like smack the authority. Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:18:41
  Are about Karen prell knows. I bet she has oh oh oh yeah but
• 1:18:47
  all the lore she's got ya howl or queen where fraction comes
• 1:18:51
  from. She knows that's my favorite.
• 1:18:55
  Oh yeah she's got all the secrets.
• 1:18:59
  The as a fraggles are leaving the trash Heap, they spot the
• 1:19:02
  gorgs fountain. And now we know where all the
• 1:19:04
  water is going. It's going through this
• 1:19:06
  unnecessary found and that's Revelation is going to set us up
• 1:19:11
  for The final episode of the Season which is going to come up
• 1:19:14
  next week. And that's where we leave the
• 1:19:17
  main fraggles but we have one more Scene before we go.
• 1:19:21
  We are back at the Foo Fighters concert which is the thing that
• 1:19:25
  I didn't think we'd be talking about in Fraggle Rock show but
• 1:19:27
  here we are and the Foo Fighters are singing the classic Fraggle
• 1:19:32
  Rock song. Fraggle Rock Rock from the
• 1:19:35
  original series episode Wembley and the gorgs in the scene.
• 1:19:41
  We met is trying to get up on stage and sing with Dave Grohl
• 1:19:45
  and security keeps, you know, kicking them out which this must
• 1:19:50
  have been a blast for them to shoot like, look how much fun
• 1:19:52
  they're having? I know, I know.
• 1:19:54
  Hallie producer. Hallie was really jazzed about
• 1:19:58
  that in particular. I know that she had really,
• 1:20:01
  really fun time. I bet.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah, and it looks like Dave Grohl's having a good time and
• 1:20:06
  looks like traveling Matt's having a good time and I'm
• 1:20:09
  having a good time watching it. Everyone!
• 1:20:10
  It's a win-win for all of us. And I just love the idea that
• 1:20:14
  there's like this real popular band who's covering a fraggle
• 1:20:17
  song. And I know that years ago there
• 1:20:19
  was a series of Fraggle Rock albums with covers by modern
• 1:20:25
  artists but it really is surprising that more musicians.
• 1:20:30
  Haven't gone back to the fraggle catalog and covered these songs
• 1:20:34
  because they're so good and like they have loved having you just
• 1:20:37
  don't know about it. Oh, I would know about it.
• 1:20:42
  My brother used to organize raves in our hometown in the
• 1:20:45
  Okanagan and he organized a Fraggle, Rock theme drave,
• 1:20:49
  really? Yeah, when he was in his early
• 1:20:51
  20s and I would have been like 19 or something.
• 1:20:53
  Yeah, that sounds amazing. Being on the dance floor and at
• 1:21:00
  like, 3:00 a.m. all the music, just with beauty, then you here.
• 1:21:11
  Yeah. Everyone everyone does.
• 1:21:13
  The clap at the same time. Yeah yeah that's that's gotta be
• 1:21:20
  the best well that brings us to the end of this episode of
• 1:21:25
  Fraggle Rock back to the Rock. I am curious.
• 1:21:28
  If any of you have any more stories you want to share about
• 1:21:31
  anything from the series, any of your experiences, anything that
• 1:21:33
  would be a fun podcast story? Can I tell you?
• 1:21:37
  I always loved massive, doozer scenes with Where it was like an
• 1:21:43
  all-hands-on-deck. Like because first of all,
• 1:21:47
  they're so tiny, right? And you have to fit that like
• 1:21:50
  all the bodies underneath very specific sections of you know
• 1:21:56
  and and they're very delicate. I don't know if this has been
• 1:21:59
  spoken about on this show about how delicate those little so you
• 1:22:04
  know like we'd start to shoot and it would you know, we're all
• 1:22:07
  so excited to be dozers and then something like some little hat
• 1:22:10
  would fall off if you like Don't do like like, you know like just
• 1:22:14
  getting through, these are sea, just felt like such an epic win.
• 1:22:19
  You know what I mean? I loved being part of it because
• 1:22:22
  it was just like, everybody's like everybody's focused energy
• 1:22:26
  was on doing there one little doozer does like perfectly right
• 1:22:29
  just for like that one hot like Ms that it was going to appear
• 1:22:32
  on the screen. It just it it felt so I can't
• 1:22:36
  even explain it that. That's that felt like Fraggle
• 1:22:39
  Rock to me like everybody just like Absolute best for this
• 1:22:43
  thing that they loved. So very much, you know?
• 1:22:46
  And it was like all those bodies underneath there, just like
• 1:22:48
  being a little loser. It was like yeah, I loved it,
• 1:22:50
  loved it. Loved it.
• 1:22:53
  One of my favorite moments was a me and Ally under a rock.
• 1:22:58
  Like, I also love the side character.
• 1:23:00
  Just so when animating a weird little bugs, it's stuck on a
• 1:23:03
  wall, you know? Like they're my favorite moment.
• 1:23:08
  Acts have a video of this is a me and Ali Eisner ER, under a
• 1:23:13
  under a, you know, under Hill. And if you've got these two
• 1:23:17
  Legacy puppets, that are these weird little, like, tubes with
• 1:23:20
  little faces. That just poke at the top and
• 1:23:22
  back down there almost like a I don't know.
• 1:23:25
  Like a little Barnacle or like a little bit.
• 1:23:27
  A little tube worm. Yes.
• 1:23:29
  Yeah. I like the body little eyes or
• 1:23:31
  if I'm just had like two little like an antenna that you could
• 1:23:35
  like the antenna were like where there were supposed to be
• 1:23:38
  looking. But yeah that's only I think
• 1:23:41
  that comes up in the Season finale, if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:23:44
  Oh, spoiler alert. Okay.
• 1:23:47
  Get ready. I could be wrong.
• 1:23:49
  I'm going off us. Sorry, continue.
• 1:23:50
  Yes. Well, I just I just have this
• 1:23:53
  one. I'm sitting under the guard and
• 1:23:55
  all the puppet does is go up down, up down, up down.
• 1:23:57
  Is the simplest puppet. We're having so much fun, the TV
• 1:24:02
  just gorgeous - in unison and then an opposition like pistons
• 1:24:06
  and then side like on the New Testament, fasters some of the
• 1:24:11
  simplest puppets. Bring me to so much joy, and I
• 1:24:14
  love all those weird little background part faces that are
• 1:24:18
  just, you know, they're there for half a second and the camera
• 1:24:20
  pans past them. But for that half a second year
• 1:24:23
  that bug on Wall or your that little worm in that corner.
• 1:24:27
  Like you do that with my mom over Zoom.
• 1:24:31
  Be like okay we're watching the first episode.
• 1:24:33
  Okay, you see that one in the corner?
• 1:24:34
  That's me. And then those two crabs, those
• 1:24:38
  are me. Right.
• 1:24:39
  Right. Right.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah. The the little ones.
• 1:24:43
  What's I always call it? Fat bird?
• 1:24:46
  Yeah. The Squishy Bird like the
• 1:24:48
  Squishy Bird. It's got like two little
• 1:24:50
  feathers on the top of its head and sleepy eyes and in every
• 1:24:53
  scene. It's in.
• 1:24:54
  It's pulling focus and it's funny because you can just
• 1:24:56
  squish it down, really small and make it fall asleep into itself
• 1:25:01
  and kind of like bounce it. At one point, I like roll it
• 1:25:04
  into a crevice in a rock and it gets stuck like so good.
• 1:25:08
  That's normal there there. They've been those Legacy
• 1:25:11
  puppets that are left over from leftover carried over from the
• 1:25:15
  original series, are all like worked in.
• 1:25:19
  You know, they've, they've been well, loved David played with a
• 1:25:22
  lot, so they're just so Easy to, like, do fun stuff with such a
• 1:25:28
  trait. Yeah, my I have to like I loved
• 1:25:32
  performing any of the puppets, but my my like it's super, super
• 1:25:37
  epic moment. Was playing that freaking
• 1:25:40
  drummer puppet with Pete? Yeah.
• 1:25:43
  Yeah. Oh my God, because I had to
• 1:25:46
  climb into this really small narrow Tower.
• 1:25:49
  There were two prop guys behind me with like confetti and like
• 1:25:53
  air. Hours and then Pete who's like
• 1:25:56
  an actual drummer was like doing the hands.
• 1:25:58
  So all I had to do is just like be this, this Rockstar doozer,
• 1:26:02
  just keep like make it look like he was kind of keeping time, but
• 1:26:05
  Peter was like murdering it on those drums and it was just
• 1:26:09
  like, it looks so good. Like went with all that,
• 1:26:12
  confetti blew out and got it. I just hear out with every time
• 1:26:16
  it was three time. We did that take, I cheered and
• 1:26:19
  watching it at home. I was like, yeah.
• 1:26:21
  Oh yeah, such an awesome moment yet.
• 1:26:24
  About doing drag right because that's, you know, total
• 1:26:28
  male-male identifying fraggle. I guess you know with those
• 1:26:32
  glasses and Canada was so fun. That was that was yeah, that was
• 1:26:37
  good. My favorite musicians was you
• 1:26:40
  were playing the bass player in the band and Palace was Ellis
• 1:26:46
  with student. It was my artist in you doing
• 1:26:49
  your arms and so in order to get like fit everybody into that
• 1:26:52
  configuration Ellis, The solution was to shove his own
• 1:26:56
  head? Yes.
• 1:26:56
  Inside the body of the yes that he was like, yeah, he was like
• 1:27:01
  connected to my forearm. Yeah, yeah, great.
• 1:27:09
  He's playing along with the music and in time with the music
• 1:27:12
  and so we just keep going, you're pulling his head at his
• 1:27:14
  book store. So then back into this like
• 1:27:18
  fleecy free, you know, like full-body hat, it was Times you
• 1:27:24
  just gotta wear the puppet in the Hat juice but I put can I
• 1:27:29
  say I loved how it just like how good-natured and kind everybody
• 1:27:32
  was in the show. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:27:35
  I think that that really it really showed up on on film you
• 1:27:43
  know that like that we were all actually having a really good
• 1:27:46
  time shooting it and we liked hanging around each other and we
• 1:27:50
  liked creating this. This weird little World and we
• 1:27:54
  were encouraged to yeah, keep them alive back there.
• 1:27:58
  How whatever happened the first day is Ingrid, you doing
• 1:28:01
  exercises? Oh my God, the calisthenics up
• 1:28:06
  on the second level in the back with that like Ingrid.
• 1:28:11
  And I am so in love with you right now.
• 1:28:13
  It's like on just callous but that's what what her fraggle
• 1:28:17
  needed to do that day. That was when you're a stuck-up
• 1:28:22
  on the second level sometimes. There with a buddy.
• 1:28:24
  There's two puppets sometimes. Do they have a prop like a gourd
• 1:28:27
  or some sticks to chew on, but I was up there.
• 1:28:29
  I was not near anybody who I buy public a chat to.
• 1:28:32
  I didn't have any props to interact with and the director
• 1:28:35
  gave me specific feedback. He's like, hey yeah, purple guy
• 1:28:39
  up there. Can you please be more active
• 1:28:41
  and I acted on it. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna
• 1:28:47
  exercise. Yeah, that's what that means.
• 1:28:49
  That's being active verb. All Choice, well choices.
• 1:28:54
  I've been trying as I'm not watching these episodes for like
• 1:28:56
  the third or fourth time trying to look a little bit more at
• 1:29:00
  what's going on in the background.
• 1:29:01
  Because I have to assume that that what you just described is
• 1:29:03
  happening all the time. And the only one that I really
• 1:29:06
  noticed so far and I mentioned this on an earlier episode, I
• 1:29:10
  think it was the episode where the where we meet the crackles
• 1:29:12
  rather than when the crackles come back to Fraggle Rock with
• 1:29:14
  everyone else and there's a Kragle like with a long straw
• 1:29:19
  drinking out of the fraggle. Pond?
• 1:29:21
  Why like other fraggles are in the pond?
• 1:29:24
  I don't like someone knew that decision and they just went with
• 1:29:27
  it thinking. No One's Gonna notice.
• 1:29:30
  Nobody want to see this? No, yes, head here.
• 1:29:33
  I am. If it's wrong, right?
• 1:29:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a memory of chania with a
• 1:29:42
  straw, but I don't know. He's a brilliant.
• 1:29:45
  What did you say? Earlier series is worth another
• 1:29:47
  watch. Two puppeteers.
• 1:29:48
  One straw, what was that? Oh, yeah.
• 1:29:51
  Oh, two brains one straw to brains one straw.
• 1:29:54
  One Kragle, one pond. That's right.
• 1:29:56
  One extra long straw it all comes back around.
• 1:29:59
  Well the three of you have done just a fantastic job being
• 1:30:02
  different parts of the trash heaps and gorgs and Doozers and
• 1:30:07
  background characters and fraggles and crackles and
• 1:30:10
  myrtles and Etc. I think all three of you so much
• 1:30:14
  for bringing that bit of magic. So Fraggle Rock and doing such
• 1:30:17
  an amazing job on back to the Rock.
• 1:30:20
  And I'm really, really hoping that we get to see more of all
• 1:30:23
  of your work. On more Fraggle Rock in the
• 1:30:25
  future. So fingers crossed for that.
• 1:30:28
  So Amy Garcia, Ingrid Hansen, Kira Hall, thank you all so much
• 1:30:32
  for being here. This is real.
• 1:30:34
  Thank you, thank you. Yeah.
• 1:30:37
  Yes, and for everyone listening, that brings us to the end of
• 1:30:40
  another fraggle Talk podcast, but stay tuned as tough pigs
• 1:30:44
  own. Beth cook talks more about the
• 1:30:46
  themes of this episode in our dive deeper segment coming up
• 1:30:50
  right now. Welcome to dig deeper.
• 1:31:02
  This is Beth cook and I am joined once again by executive
• 1:31:05
  producer and president of television, at the Jim Henson
• 1:31:07
  company Hallie Stanford. I'm just stirring up a pot of
• 1:31:11
  pea soup. Ooh, yummy yummy honestly,
• 1:31:15
  sounds really good. I want to try and make it, you
• 1:31:18
  know, what I actually do to accept that I, if I recall, he
• 1:31:21
  gets like kind of bluish greenish.
• 1:31:23
  So I don't know. I don't know what's In there.
• 1:31:25
  Don't know what's in that soup. Love, I'll tell you what's in
• 1:31:28
  that suit, love and kindness teamwork.
• 1:31:31
  That's what I love. Anytime, we get Marjorie lore
• 1:31:35
  and find out more about who she is and how she works.
• 1:31:39
  Yeah, yeah. Well that was a, you know,
• 1:31:41
  that's a big world building moment.
• 1:31:42
  And again, one of the things that we got to do, you know, in
• 1:31:46
  this reboot of Fraggle, Rock is like, let's just like play with
• 1:31:49
  the lure of Marjorie and like, let's see what she's really made
• 1:31:52
  up of. And let's go down into that
• 1:31:54
  trash Heap. The whole like world.
• 1:31:57
  And so we thought that was really fun.
• 1:31:59
  And then when you get down there, you realize, oh, she's
• 1:32:02
  made up of everything. She's made up of doozer and
• 1:32:05
  silly creature, and fraggle, and all these different cultures
• 1:32:09
  that are like and have their discards are there.
• 1:32:13
  And that's what makes her up. And she is sick.
• 1:32:15
  She's sickening as Everybody's not connecting and thriving and
• 1:32:23
  so, she's not as well, and it's just an incredible metaphor,
• 1:32:27
  right? Like, absolutely.
• 1:32:28
  She's so great. She's so great, the trash Heap,
• 1:32:31
  she, she can just keep the if you wanted my going real deep
• 1:32:35
  dive, you can really deep dive into what she's all about why
• 1:32:38
  she was created originally for the show what she represents,
• 1:32:43
  but because you're trash. Are the things you don't want,
• 1:32:48
  but says a lot about you and has a lot of wisdom has a lot to say
• 1:32:55
  and also you know kind of fertilizes the earth as well.
• 1:32:59
  The good trash, not the bad rat compost landfill.
• 1:33:02
  Yeah yeah yeah I love that. She is what connects all of
• 1:33:07
  these cultures even factly if there.
• 1:33:12
  Conflicting with each other even if they don't know that each
• 1:33:15
  other exist. Yeah.
• 1:33:17
  And that if their relationships with each other are unhealthy,
• 1:33:22
  and she becomes unhealthy. That's right.
• 1:33:24
  And you know what, if you think about all the creatures on this
• 1:33:26
  planet that we don't know or we're not thinking about right
• 1:33:30
  now. There's so many of them like how
• 1:33:31
  can I how can I attach? I'll be thinking at this moment
• 1:33:34
  about that jellyfish over there, that dog over there that person
• 1:33:39
  in that state all at It's, it's hard to imagine that but yet the
• 1:33:44
  planet Earth is being affected by all of those things.
• 1:33:47
  All at once, and big impacts that we have do affect all of
• 1:33:52
  those different creatures up once and being able to
• 1:33:55
  communicate and connect and care.
• 1:33:57
  Right? And give back as what is going
• 1:34:01
  to create a thriving world. That's a really heavy deep
• 1:34:04
  message. But that's exactly what the
• 1:34:06
  message is of this episode. And it just so happens that We
• 1:34:12
  get to have a chef yes. Put it all together in a in a
• 1:34:19
  lovely soup. Really appreciated that he
• 1:34:22
  started out the episode wanting to do something more important
• 1:34:25
  and not just be the guy who's making soup.
• 1:34:28
  That's right. And he learns that that thing
• 1:34:31
  that he's doing is actually really important.
• 1:34:33
  It's really important. It's a very important message to
• 1:34:37
  kids and families too because it's saying everybody counts,
• 1:34:41
  every Discount, think about us, all of us the pandemic, suddenly
• 1:34:46
  the, the people that are actually going to the grocery
• 1:34:51
  store to check you out. And to stock their shelves,
• 1:34:54
  became the essential workers, right?
• 1:34:58
  Your perception of what people do and what their contribute to
• 1:35:01
  the world to completely shifted. How about teachers finally, the
• 1:35:06
  recognition that they deserve getting on Zoom with all their
• 1:35:11
  children and just Figuring it out, put it all together and I
• 1:35:14
  think that you know, you can see this is true for everyone that
• 1:35:18
  everyone matters that every little thing matters.
• 1:35:20
  And your contribution can't count and this case would be
• 1:35:25
  Uber it really counts because you really figures out how to
• 1:35:28
  bring them all together and takes the journey inside
• 1:35:32
  Marjorie to discover, what's really making her sick.
• 1:35:42
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