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Cinematic Cats: Skubal, Greene Lead Tigers Squad Full Of Prime Time Players · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory. Part of
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory, norwork a that's try Tiger's podcast. I
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Speaker 1: am Karen Steckley, and I got with me a couple
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Speaker 1: of prime time players, Austin Jackson, Cody Steven Haaggen.
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Speaker 2: What some guys how we doing?
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Speaker 3: Yeoah, baby's good. Always always good to be on here
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Speaker 3: with you guys. Man, y'all, y'all make my day.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we just got done talking like the
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Speaker 1: minutia of swings that we were not recording. Maybe we'll
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Speaker 1: have to make that a whole episode for all the
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Speaker 1: baseball nerds out there. But we got we got tons
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Speaker 1: to talk about off the top here. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: recall something I had said last time we talked and
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Speaker 1: then kind of spinning in a different direction. So last
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Speaker 1: time we talked, I discussed how the Tigers kind of
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Speaker 1: flexed on the athletics because they had all these different
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Speaker 1: contributors and it was like a sign of like what
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Speaker 1: a deep team and all these like fun stories and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: And you know that's obviously still true.
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Speaker 1: But the two wins of the weekend Saturday and particularly Sunday,
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Speaker 1: We're also an example of what the top heavy of
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Speaker 1: the top heavy of what this team could be like.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes enough, you have Trek Scouoble having one hit ball
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Speaker 1: over seven ennings.
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Speaker 2: You have Riley Green going yard.
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Speaker 1: You have Kry Carpenter going yard by the way back
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Speaker 1: to back games obviously talk about Carpenter a little bit later.
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Speaker 1: And there was enough three nothing. You have the bull,
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Speaker 1: you have your bullpen aces come in, can Lee invest
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Speaker 1: and and we're good and we move on to Washington.
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Speaker 1: And I thought it, like, I love it when you
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Speaker 1: see like different ways of winning. So you have the
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Speaker 1: group effort, and then you had it's kind of the
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Speaker 1: star power, like the headliners come out and it's Sunday
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Speaker 1: Night baseball, and it's ESPN. And if you read a
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Speaker 1: lot of national perceptions on the Tigers, it usually comes
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Speaker 1: down to, like you can read between the lines, if
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Speaker 1: they don't act, say it not as much star power
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Speaker 1: as a Yankees team, as obviously the Dodgers, and and
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Speaker 1: I'm not here to debate the validity of that either way,
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Speaker 1: but that's a perception. And then Sunday Night Baseball, Schooble
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Speaker 1: looks like the raining saw young as you put in
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Speaker 1: your story, Cody not letting go of that award, uh willingly,
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Speaker 1: and then Riley Green continues to rake, and then you
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Speaker 1: have Hobby Baias, you know, the all star momentum making
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Speaker 1: plays in the field, even Torque, you know, doing this
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Speaker 1: thing at first base. I mean like it was kind
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Speaker 1: of like a star laden win on a Sunday night
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Speaker 1: environment Comerica Park.
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Speaker 2: Everything.
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Speaker 1: It just fits so well into this nice narrative that
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Speaker 1: we get to talk about today on this podcast.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 4: It was a fun night of the park, Karen. But
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Speaker 4: I think we could have shut it all down and
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Speaker 4: just went home after the carpenter Homer because dude wasn't
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Speaker 4: gonna allow any runs, Like he just he just wasn't.
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Speaker 4: It had that special feel something about it, maybe more
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Speaker 4: so than some other schooble outings. I mean for a while,
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Speaker 4: I was like, this might be this might be the one,
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Speaker 4: This might be no hitter perfect game. Territory only got
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Speaker 4: through four and a third, but man, he came out
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Speaker 4: of the gate hot, struck out eight of the first
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Speaker 4: nine batters.
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Speaker 3: It was special. Yeah, yeah, no, he's he's he's just different.
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Speaker 3: I think anytime that he's on that mound and he's throwing.
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Speaker 3: I think we can we can say that, I'm there's
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Speaker 3: a chance that there could be a no hitter. So
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Speaker 3: it's just super special to watch it, man, because I
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Speaker 3: mean I feel like you're just getting something different every
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Speaker 3: time we've seen him kind of struggle with his definition
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Speaker 3: to struggle is and he's just it's just different. Man.
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Speaker 3: The mentality, the way that he attacks hitters. He's going
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Speaker 3: at you with his stuff, and that's what that's what
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Speaker 3: is the awesome thing about watching him is he's never coming,
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Speaker 3: he's never getting away from who he is. He's gonna be.
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Speaker 3: He is coming at you. You know what's coming. You
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Speaker 3: know that fastballs company. You know he has that change
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Speaker 3: up gets you, you know, thinking about other things with
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Speaker 3: the slide of the curve ball. It's just special to
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Speaker 3: watch man and you know they got a good one
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Speaker 3: with this guy. He's special.
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Speaker 1: Well he's unafraid. I think that's another way to put it.
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Speaker 1: And not that we needed any more evidence of that.
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Speaker 1: Like a lot of that stuff was established last season,
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Speaker 1: particularly in the in the postseason, but again, like if
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Speaker 1: there was like there, it's one of those things where
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Speaker 1: you don't you only get so many like guaranteed, like
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Speaker 1: stages like you know you play, you play almost every day,
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Speaker 1: but not every game is a stage in a sense,
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Speaker 1: And and schoolbl like you would have thought that was
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Sunday afternoon playing you know, the the
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Speaker 1: Rockies or something like that. Like he just like it's
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Speaker 1: all the same to him. He like the moment's never
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Speaker 1: too big for him. And I think that's kind of
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Speaker 1: one of the things that separates him from you know,
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Speaker 1: just a guy that has great stuff is the ment
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Speaker 1: hall of the stuff like everyone talks about, Like I
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Speaker 1: was reading this week about how like you know, he's
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Speaker 1: you know, you take him over any other picture in baseball.
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Speaker 1: He's like you would build a picture out of a lab,
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Speaker 1: it would be Trek Schouoble. And and again I'm not
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Speaker 1: even saying that's a wrong opinion, but like the first
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Speaker 1: thing I'm doing if I'm building a picture out a
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Speaker 1: lab from Trek Schooble, is I'm taking that mindset. That
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Speaker 1: mindset is as is as good as anything else that
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Speaker 1: he has diled up. And and he he's like a
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Speaker 1: great ambassador for the team. He's good for the city,
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Speaker 1: like he does all that other stuff that like is
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Speaker 1: expected of stars and aces. Like you know, everybody wants
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Speaker 1: to talk to Trek Schooble. He always gives them time,
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Speaker 1: like all those little things. Man, he is, He's a superstar.
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Speaker 1: We didn't need yesterday to establish that.
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Speaker 3: But it was just like.
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Speaker 1: Another reminder another bigger audience, another way of like just
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Speaker 1: kind of showing what people in Detroit have known for
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Speaker 1: several years, and and and and speaking of things that
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Speaker 1: people in Detroit have known that the nat you know,
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Speaker 1: the national audience hasn't gotten to see in a while,
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Speaker 1: is what Camerica Park can look.
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Speaker 2: Like when it's rocking.
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Speaker 1: So like so like you know, like I said, Sunday
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Speaker 1: night baseball, first time Sunday Night baseball since twenty seventeen, Austin,
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Speaker 1: this is.
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Speaker 2: Environment that you played in.
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Speaker 1: Cody, You've you've seen seen the other end of the
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Speaker 1: spectrum and kind of grow into this, you know. I
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Speaker 1: guess we'll start with Cody explain to us what the
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Speaker 1: vibe was like at America on Sunday night, and then Austin,
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Speaker 1: just what is it like, you know, once, what was
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Speaker 1: it like playing in front of a rock in ca America?
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Speaker 1: Because obviously you have plenty of examples of that too.
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Speaker 4: It was a really good environment. I think it was
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Speaker 4: maybe the best regular season environment I've witnessed outside of
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Speaker 4: maybe Miguel Cabrera's final game or some of the Miggey
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Speaker 4: Milestone type games. It was kind of funny. It was like, wait,
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Speaker 4: Sunday Night baseball still a big deal in ESPN and
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Speaker 4: MLB just break up, Like there was still something about
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Speaker 4: the vibe of like, all right, Sunday night game. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I feel like people just knew in the stadium, like
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Speaker 4: this is national TV. We got to show out, we
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Speaker 4: got to create a good environment. Did not hurt that
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Speaker 4: you had scooball on the bump one of the better,
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Speaker 4: Like what I've always measured, like, I don't I don't
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Speaker 4: care how big the crowd is. Is the crowd invested
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Speaker 4: on every pitch? Are people paying attention? Can you hear
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Speaker 4: like the oohs and ohs and the silence and the
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Speaker 4: ruars based on every single pitch And some of the
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Speaker 4: better crowds dating to the end of last year, honestly
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Speaker 4: haven't always felt that. I thought we felt that in
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Speaker 4: a big way Sunday Night, And I'm sure we'll have
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Speaker 4: several more really good crowds throughout the summer.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cody, and you you mentioned it, man like, like
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Speaker 3: the oohze and the os like I just remember vividly,
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Speaker 3: like the the what I thought was just a regular
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Speaker 3: catch in the gap, you know, and just being like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, y'all like that that was something specially y'all.
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Speaker 3: Like I was like, I do this is VP all day,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? But it is. It's something
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Speaker 3: to it, man, Like, people want to see this team play.
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Speaker 3: People want to see the best teams play, and they're
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Speaker 3: gonna come up and they're gonna they're gonna come out
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Speaker 3: and they're gonna support that. And you saw that, you
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Speaker 3: know yesterday. It was unreal. It's almost like that playoff environment, right,
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Speaker 3: like it's preparing you for that, like like secretly is
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Speaker 3: preparing you for that. You're getting to You're getting the
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Speaker 3: little dose of that during the regular season of like, hey,
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Speaker 3: this is what it's gonna be like. And I think
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Speaker 3: you can't really take that for granted. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: not always gonna be like that. You have to enjoy
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Speaker 3: those moments, take them in. I loved it. I loved
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Speaker 3: when you know, people came out and fans came out
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Speaker 3: and they were just from all different walks of life
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Speaker 3: just to see us play, just to see Niggi, you know, hit,
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Speaker 3: just to see Verlander shirs are on the mound, Like
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Speaker 3: it just meant so much. And then it does something
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Speaker 3: to you as a player, like it keeps you engaged
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Speaker 3: in the game. You want to make that play because
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Speaker 3: you want to hear those lose and eyes on you know,
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Speaker 3: routine plays like it's like I do that again, but
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Speaker 3: thank you for that, Like I need that. But it's
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Speaker 3: just special, man. That goes to show you how really
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Speaker 3: special this Tigers team is. When people are packing the
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Speaker 3: stands out on a Sunday night, Hey, that that means
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Speaker 3: you you're doing something and you're a special team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And keep in mind the reason I kind of
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Speaker 1: bring up because it's like it's one of those things
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Speaker 1: that matters, but it doesn't matter at the same time.
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Speaker 1: But the reason I bring up like national narratives and
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Speaker 1: like perceptions and star power this and blah blah blah,
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Speaker 1: is because, like you know, the Tigers played a lot
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Speaker 1: of day playoff games last year despite having school, well
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Speaker 1: despite having you know, Riley Green was an all start,
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Speaker 1: despite the Houston a J. Hinch, you know, narrative that
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Speaker 1: existed there. So that that's that's the networks in MLB
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Speaker 1: saying like it's not as important as these other games
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Speaker 1: for viewership purposes at this rate. That might change. So that's, uh,
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Speaker 1: that's why I make note of those kind of things
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Speaker 1: because it everything affects everything.
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Speaker 2: As I say, shout out.
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Speaker 3: To shout out to d Book two man for representing
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Speaker 3: for you know what I mean, representing for the boys
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Speaker 3: man coming through. I love to see that. I love
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Speaker 3: to see athletes man from different you know, from other sports,
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Speaker 3: other professions, man come in and show their love and man,
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Speaker 3: it was just that was an awesome moment. That was
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Speaker 3: an awesome interaction man. And I love to see that.
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Speaker 3: I love to see when guys you know go represent
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Speaker 3: and show their support for other professionals because we know
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Speaker 3: how hard it is, man, We know how hard the
10:29
Speaker 3: grind is. You know. You see Jimmy Buckets out there
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Speaker 3: at the at the US Open, you know, out there
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Speaker 3: swinging the you know, the racket and looking just terrible,
10:38
Speaker 3: and we're like, yeah, we know it's hard, but we
10:40
Speaker 3: want to try to do that too. You know, you
10:42
Speaker 3: see a lot of players out there, you know, you know,
10:45
Speaker 3: you know putting you know, their their stocks into soccer
10:48
Speaker 3: and you know, just other professions. It's really cool. Man.
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Speaker 3: I love to see that, and you know, you always
10:53
Speaker 3: love to see that support from you know, your your
10:55
Speaker 3: brothers across the streets. So that's that's cool. Shout out
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Speaker 3: to book Man for that. That's awesome.
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Speaker 4: All right, hold on, here's here's the coolest person you
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Speaker 4: got to meet athlete or celebrity at the game in
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Speaker 4: your career.
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Speaker 3: Man, the coolest person. Man, that's tough, dude. But I
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Speaker 3: know for in Detroit when Eminem came through, that was
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Speaker 3: that was that was That was tough. Man. That was
11:19
Speaker 3: tough because you know, like I listened I listened to
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Speaker 3: you know, I listened to to Eminem. Man, he's just
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Speaker 3: he's just different. He's just he's just different. And anytime
11:27
Speaker 3: I put him on, it's like I'm going to work
11:29
Speaker 3: out because like he just he says something to me
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Speaker 3: and it's like get off the couch, let's go get
11:35
Speaker 3: like and it was just cool. And not only that,
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Speaker 3: you know, jay Z was there too, so that was
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Speaker 3: like super cool because I'm a big fan of jay
11:43
Speaker 3: Man and I just love his music. I'm all way
11:46
Speaker 3: back to hard Knocks. I love uh you know the blueprint.
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Speaker 3: I It's just he's just different, man. And when those
11:51
Speaker 3: two dudes showed up in Detroit and came out on
11:54
Speaker 3: the field and was just like almost you know, they
11:57
Speaker 3: were almost fans, like fans of us, but they don't
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Speaker 3: realize like, yo, this is Jay right here, like what's
12:04
Speaker 3: going on? It was. It was a super awesome experience
12:07
Speaker 3: for me, like I said, because I listened to both
12:09
Speaker 3: of both of those guys, and I remember Megatron came
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Speaker 3: over one time and it was just his physical presence. Man.
12:16
Speaker 3: I was like, I see what the why you are
12:19
Speaker 3: called Megatron because you are built like a machine. And
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Speaker 3: it's just cool to see that man and have that
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Speaker 3: interaction with with guys that play other sports and they,
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Speaker 3: you know, they show their love for you, but we're
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Speaker 3: looking at them like, yo, if you do how to
12:33
Speaker 3: hit a baseball, we wouldn't have a job. So being
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Speaker 3: being scared of hitting a baseball, but not being scared
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Speaker 3: of hitting the line back, not being scared of being
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Speaker 3: blindsided by a linebacker A two forty five. Cool? You
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Speaker 3: stay there, brother, Yeah, good, You're good.
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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna talk about you know, was there
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Speaker 1: I was like, was there to talk about with Trek School?
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Speaker 1: Well I found something to talk about with Trek schoobl
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Speaker 2: All right, coming back here.
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Speaker 1: You know, schoobl was a strikeout machine, as we talked
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Speaker 1: about on Sunday night, So it kind of got me thinking.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder, I wonder what Cody, I
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Speaker 1: wonder what Ajax. I wonder what is what is the
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Speaker 1: their favorite or what is the best pitch in their
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Speaker 1: mind in Schoobl's arsenal, Because uh, I think if we
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Speaker 1: wanted to just like talk about that for thirty minutes
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Speaker 1: and argue about it and get into minute show baseball,
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Speaker 1: we probably could because it's like it's a pretty good debate.
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Speaker 1: But I have my opinion, but I want to see
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Speaker 1: what you guys say first. So Austin Cody, whichever won, Like,
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Speaker 1: what's the what's the best your favorite?
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Speaker 2: Whatever you know, wherever you want to take it, what's
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Speaker 2: most lethal?
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Speaker 1: Like, what do you what is the best that schoobl
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Speaker 1: has to offer from from his arsenal?
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Speaker 4: I'll take I mean, yeah, I'll stay the easy one,
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Speaker 4: and then hopefully at least one of you disagrees with me. Okay,
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Speaker 4: I guess it depends how defining best right, But if
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Speaker 4: we're just going most effective. Like all the numbers this
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Speaker 4: year say it is, the changeup has the best run value,
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Speaker 4: getting a forty eight percent with rate guys are hitting
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Speaker 4: one fifty two against the pitch. It grades out higher
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Speaker 4: than all his other pitches that also grade out really
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Speaker 4: well on the stuff plus models. The change up is
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Speaker 4: the pitch that is taking Trek Skogle from a good
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Speaker 4: pitcher to an elite pitcher. He had success within with
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Speaker 4: the changeup when he was throwing a different version of
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Speaker 4: it in twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, but when
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Speaker 4: he came back throwing this new seam shifted wake change up,
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Speaker 4: it really helped take him to another level because he's
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Speaker 4: able to use it more and this year, for the
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Speaker 4: first time, he's using it more than even a fastball.
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Speaker 4: It's his bread and butter. He struck out each of
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Speaker 4: the first five hitters last night, one swinging changeups for
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Speaker 4: strike three fifteen whiffs overall. Like, yeah, there's probably an
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Speaker 4: argument it doesn't work if the fastball is not working.
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Speaker 4: If that, you know, you gotta have some stuff to
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Speaker 4: pair with it. But most lethal the pitch guys don't
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Speaker 4: want to see the pitch guys don't square up. It's
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Speaker 4: the changeup.
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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I can't argue with that, right, but I
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Speaker 3: am going to I'm gonna change it up a little
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Speaker 3: bit though, because I thought about this. I thought about it,
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Speaker 3: and I was thinking, like, what would that change up
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Speaker 3: be without that fastball though, because a lot of guys
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Speaker 3: those ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine, but a lot
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Speaker 3: of guys don't have that, They don't hide it behind
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Speaker 3: their back like my man does. So I think that
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Speaker 3: to me, his best pitch is his fastball. His nastiest
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Speaker 3: pitch is that change up though, because if that change up,
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Speaker 3: which he left up in the zone and got base
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Speaker 3: hit to right, like if he was doing it like that,
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Speaker 3: like that change you would be like, man, that change up,
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Speaker 3: ain't it? Like? Go ahead and put that in the
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Speaker 3: back pocket. Bring that out maybe once or twice game.
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Speaker 3: But that fastball, when he's able to spot that fastball,
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Speaker 3: when he's able to show you that elbow and then
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Speaker 3: kick it out there, that James Paxton, that that CC Sabbathia.
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Speaker 3: You don't see the ball too, it's on you. So
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Speaker 3: if he wasn't you know with that deceptive wind up,
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Speaker 3: that that deceptive delivery and spotting ninety seven ninety eight
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Speaker 3: and here comes one hundred. I think that that that
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Speaker 3: change up is, you know, maybe doesn't work as well
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Speaker 3: as it does because guys are gearing up for fastball.
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Speaker 3: Because if you look at some of the changeups, like
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Speaker 3: they're not even in the zone, but they're gearing up
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Speaker 3: for that fastball that's in that changeup is coming at
17:42
Speaker 3: that same tunnel, it's coming at that same window, and
17:45
Speaker 3: it's just like see you later. So you know, it's
17:48
Speaker 3: hard to sit on that because I'm trying to gear
17:50
Speaker 3: up for ninety seven to one hundred. You know, That's
17:53
Speaker 3: why I say it's his best pitch because he can
17:55
Speaker 3: throw it for a strike. I saw him spot up
17:58
Speaker 3: ninety seven, like down at the knees on a rity
18:01
Speaker 3: and it's like that's not hittable. And it's not even
18:04
Speaker 3: just the velocity, it's the angle at its that it's
18:08
Speaker 3: coming in and release on on television, that's how it
18:11
Speaker 3: looks like there's this angle that it's coming at where
18:14
Speaker 3: it's not just riding straight. Like if you look at
18:16
Speaker 3: Paddocks faotball, which he had, he had a good fastball,
18:19
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but it was just more of
18:21
Speaker 3: a straight fastball as opposed to Schoogles is coming in
18:24
Speaker 3: at this angle towards you, and like when you're when
18:27
Speaker 3: he's throwing that change up after that same angle, and
18:30
Speaker 3: then it just goes that way. You don't have time
18:33
Speaker 3: to determine whether that's that ninety seven to one hundred
18:36
Speaker 3: or a change up. So I'm swinging for the fastball.
18:39
Speaker 3: We're taught to stay on the fastball. We're not going
18:41
Speaker 3: up there sitting on change ups unless you got in
18:43
Speaker 3: your mind I'm going up here and sitting on a
18:46
Speaker 3: change up. Until you get up there and he throw
18:47
Speaker 3: that first bitch strike, you're like, oh, shoot, that was
18:51
Speaker 3: hey fastball? Like, why am I sitting on the change up?
18:54
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna hit that. Nobody's hitting that ball good.
18:57
Speaker 3: You're gonna be, you know, but back hands out front,
19:00
Speaker 3: throwing a little little play Johnny out there the right field,
19:03
Speaker 3: which which we saw, you're not really doing damage off
19:06
Speaker 3: of that. You're gonna most of his ball to hit,
19:08
Speaker 3: which bust have missed the fastball, like he missed that,
19:13
Speaker 3: but he's not here the change up like that. You
19:15
Speaker 3: see how he looked on the change up. He's out front.
19:17
Speaker 3: He's fllling the back because that fastball, that fastball, that
19:21
Speaker 3: that good fastball he has, it allows that change up
19:25
Speaker 3: to not even be in the zone look like it's
19:27
Speaker 3: in the zone. It could be all the way out there.
19:29
Speaker 3: There's times where I've seen him throw that change up
19:32
Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's not even close to being a strike.
19:34
Speaker 3: Guys are sitting on that fastball and that change When
19:38
Speaker 3: he throws that change up, it doesn't even have to
19:40
Speaker 3: be that dirty. It just needs to look just like
19:43
Speaker 3: that fastball, and it works. It works every time we
19:46
Speaker 3: saw it yesterday. So I think that's a.
19:49
Speaker 4: Good point on Tommy Kinley has changed everyone perception of everything.
19:53
Speaker 4: Makes me wonder, like what if Schoogle just threw his
19:56
Speaker 4: change up eighty percent of the time. He can throw
19:59
Speaker 4: it in the zone now, But I think I don't
20:00
Speaker 4: have the numbers in front of you, but I think
20:02
Speaker 4: you're right us. I think he's a little more chase
20:04
Speaker 4: dependent with that change up. Yes, Tommy Kinley is, Yes.
20:09
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's what's fascinating is that you have, like, like,
20:13
Speaker 1: this is why he's such a complete pitcher of Schooble,
20:16
Speaker 1: is that you know you have this fastball that he
20:19
Speaker 1: can dot, as Austin explained, dot ninety eight, dot one
20:22
Speaker 1: hundred on the black like what. Pretty much whenever he wants,
20:26
Speaker 1: he still throws the change up more so, like so
20:29
Speaker 1: he throws the change up more because the fastball kind
20:32
Speaker 1: of reputation kind of speaks for itself. You don't have
20:34
Speaker 1: to throw it as often, which I which I find fascinating.
20:38
Speaker 4: And just he's throwing he's throwing a lot more sinkers,
20:41
Speaker 4: which means a little less four seam. That's really why
20:43
Speaker 4: the change up has kind of passed him as the
20:46
Speaker 4: most used.
20:47
Speaker 3: That same has that same movement on it. Like the fastball.
20:50
Speaker 3: Changeup is the dirtiest combination because it looks like the
20:55
Speaker 3: changeup looks like the fastball. So I mean he throws
20:58
Speaker 3: that curveball, that slider in there to kind to change
21:00
Speaker 3: your you know, change your eyes a little bit, kind
21:02
Speaker 3: of keep you honest a little bit. You know, if
21:05
Speaker 3: guys are if he's starting to fall into a you know,
21:07
Speaker 3: a repetition of fastball change up, well here comes that
21:10
Speaker 3: curve ball and they're like, oh, okay, that that just
21:12
Speaker 3: threw me all off. Now I have no clue. What's
21:14
Speaker 3: coming and then you might throw a change up off
21:16
Speaker 3: of that. It's like, yo, I have no clue with
21:19
Speaker 3: this guy in ninety seven. Truck truck. Sit in the
21:22
Speaker 3: truck because that's where you're going, is truck. Whether he
21:25
Speaker 3: throws the fastball to change up, any of that. Once
21:27
Speaker 3: he gets the two strikes, you just swing the bat.
21:29
Speaker 3: It don't matter. You're going to sit in the truck.
21:31
Speaker 3: You can throw the rozen bag up there for all
21:33
Speaker 3: I care. You are striking out because it's it's it's
21:37
Speaker 3: he has this. It's like this ability to make you
21:42
Speaker 3: sit on the fact like we are trying as hitters.
21:44
Speaker 3: We are trying to sit on the fastball and listen.
21:46
Speaker 3: Like I said, un let's we make up our mind
21:48
Speaker 3: to literally go up there and say, I'm in swing.
21:50
Speaker 3: How do you how do you sit on a change up?
21:53
Speaker 3: It's not it's not realistic to just go up there
21:56
Speaker 3: and sit on a change up like you're gonna get
21:58
Speaker 3: a fastball that we are taught to hit. To stay
22:01
Speaker 3: on the fastball and it's gonna be a good pitch
22:03
Speaker 3: to hit and you're gonna take it because you're sitting
22:05
Speaker 3: on the change up. Now you get behind. Now he
22:08
Speaker 3: throws that that that change up out of that same
22:11
Speaker 3: again that tunnel as that change up. You're thinking fastball
22:14
Speaker 3: now and it's the change up. So now you're doing
22:16
Speaker 3: to change your whole plan up because you was like
22:18
Speaker 3: I was sitting on the change up. He threw me
22:20
Speaker 3: that fastball. I'm still in the change up. I'm still
22:22
Speaker 3: on the change up fastball. Okay, now I'm really confused.
22:26
Speaker 3: Curveball what I don't know what's coming now? Now I'm
22:30
Speaker 3: I've completely aborted mission. Aboard, aboard, just try to make
22:34
Speaker 3: contact and then you're in trouble. And that's why I
22:38
Speaker 3: love that he's able to throw that that velocity, but
22:42
Speaker 3: also like listen, I can get you out with this other,
22:44
Speaker 3: this other stuff and avoid hard contact with this change up.
22:51
Speaker 3: Nastiest pitch, nastiest pitch now the.
22:54
Speaker 1: Record yesterday, just so everybody knows, he threw thirty eight
22:58
Speaker 1: change ups, twenty six four seamers, fifteen sinkers, nine sliders,
23:04
Speaker 1: and five knuckle curves. Since I believe everything comes off
23:08
Speaker 1: the fastball and the change up is by far the
23:11
Speaker 1: most successful pitch, I'm going to say that the best
23:15
Speaker 1: pitch is the knuckle curve because he has yet to
23:17
Speaker 1: give up the hit on that.
23:19
Speaker 2: If I had that correct, I don't. Yes, he has
23:21
Speaker 2: given up zero hits on the knuckle curve, so.
23:23
Speaker 4: That's why he doesn't scooble throw the knuckle curve.
23:30
Speaker 2: Is yet to give up.
23:33
Speaker 3: Bringing that out. I'm gonna keep saving it. I'm gonna
23:35
Speaker 3: save it until y'all thinking the change is coming, and
23:38
Speaker 3: then you're not. And then when he throws that, you're
23:40
Speaker 3: not swinging because you're like, he didn't even throw that.
23:43
Speaker 3: And then he throws the boy strike, he drops it
23:44
Speaker 3: in for strike. Now I'm messing with your head. That's
23:47
Speaker 3: the psychological game. Now that that messes you up. When
23:50
Speaker 3: a picture doesn't throw that pitch a lot and he
23:52
Speaker 3: throws a strike, you're like, seriously, why you do that
23:55
Speaker 3: on me? Like I'm hitting two twenty, Like why why
23:59
Speaker 3: just coming at me? Like I don't got I got
24:03
Speaker 3: twenty four on my back. Let come on down well.
24:09
Speaker 1: And then also I would say that maybe the most
24:12
Speaker 1: correct answer, given of what everything that we just said,
24:15
Speaker 1: his best pitch is the next pitch because you because
24:19
Speaker 1: as Austin went into you just don't know what to expect.
24:22
Speaker 1: And also his pace, that's part of this suit. His
24:26
Speaker 1: pace is among the tops. I don't know if it's
24:28
Speaker 1: the fastest, probably not, but it's among the tops in
24:32
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. So you know what Austin's going through,
24:36
Speaker 1: Like all this stuff in the batter's box, Like I
24:38
Speaker 1: was sitting this and you threw this and blah blah blah.
24:40
Speaker 1: Guess what, especially in a pitchclock era, you have no
24:44
Speaker 1: time to even like try to reassess your game plan
24:47
Speaker 1: against cool because he's ball and met his he's foot
24:51
Speaker 1: on rubber and he's go.
24:53
Speaker 3: So he's coming at you too, Carrio, He's like coming
24:55
Speaker 3: at you, you know, that big leg kick. And then
24:58
Speaker 3: like I said, you know, he shows you arm and
25:00
Speaker 3: not the ball, like you really don't have a lot
25:02
Speaker 3: of time. Like that's something that I think that needs
25:04
Speaker 3: to be talked about too, Like, yes, his stuff is good,
25:07
Speaker 3: but it's something to be said about a delivery to
25:10
Speaker 3: you like that, Like I've seen all this other stuff
25:13
Speaker 3: except the ball, and then it just comes out of
25:15
Speaker 3: nowhere and it's it's electric. Man, It's on you before
25:18
Speaker 3: you can decide, you know, whether to swing or not.
25:21
Speaker 3: Whether the guys were swinging before they even knew it
25:24
Speaker 3: was a strike, Like, that's what I saw. I saw
25:26
Speaker 3: guys just swinging. I'm like, that pitch's not even close.
25:29
Speaker 3: Why why are we swinging at that pitch that that
25:32
Speaker 3: ball was down in the in the dirt because they
25:35
Speaker 3: don't see it. I'm they're guessing fast I'm just gonna
25:38
Speaker 3: guess fastball. And when I swing, it's a change up,
25:42
Speaker 3: you know. And and they're relate on the fastball, you know.
25:45
Speaker 3: And you see the majority of the foul balls are
25:48
Speaker 3: going off for rightings or going off to right field.
25:50
Speaker 3: You know. It's just you can tell that they weren't
25:53
Speaker 3: picking it up.
25:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a game of failure for a reason.
25:58
Speaker 1: And when you're going against Schoogle, it's a game of
26:00
Speaker 1: a lot of failure. Gonna we're gonna get to probably
26:04
Speaker 1: the other kind of big storyline from Sunday night's game.
26:08
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26:10
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Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, you know, it was one
27:21
Speaker 1: of the highlights of the weekend overall was to see
27:24
Speaker 1: Carrie Bonds be Carry Bonds. He had a home run
27:28
Speaker 1: on Saturday, then he also had the home run on
27:31
Speaker 1: Sunday and a triple on Sunday. That was like, oh, man,
27:35
Speaker 1: like they like, here we go, you know, here we
27:39
Speaker 1: go with Carry Carpenter, and then the camera cuts to
27:42
Speaker 1: AJ and the training staff and obviously Core right there
27:46
Speaker 1: kind of looking at him, and now we know it's
27:49
Speaker 1: the it's the hamstring again.
27:51
Speaker 2: And so like the hams, we always say, like the
27:56
Speaker 2: hamstring is a hamstring.
27:57
Speaker 1: It's not really like anything you can do, but just
28:00
Speaker 1: like rest and hope.
28:02
Speaker 2: Uh but we we still as.
28:03
Speaker 1: The recording, don't have any sort of MRI, you know,
28:06
Speaker 1: diagnosis or anything like that. But man, really unfortunate for
28:09
Speaker 1: a guy who was who felt like he was coming
28:12
Speaker 1: on Cody and and to just kind of be bitten
28:15
Speaker 1: by this on like on a play itself. I know,
28:19
Speaker 1: he said he happened in the field, but on a
28:20
Speaker 1: play itself where it's not like he extended, you know,
28:23
Speaker 1: exerted himself on that particular play.
28:26
Speaker 4: We have it here, I mean, yeah, yeah, you can't
28:29
Speaker 4: watch it what you want to see it?
28:31
Speaker 6: They that smoked fair ball into the corner.
28:36
Speaker 3: Col Keith will hit third, gets away from Castro.
28:39
Speaker 7: He's gonna score easily, hitting the third base to.
28:42
Speaker 6: Throw cut off and him there he's.
28:46
Speaker 7: Carry Carpenter Rey, don't think Detroit as the carpenter puts
28:51
Speaker 7: another name.
28:53
Speaker 4: You know, the broadcast actually didn't show carp like I
28:56
Speaker 4: thought it did. I was watching in the press box
28:58
Speaker 4: and I saw him hit second base and he shut
29:01
Speaker 4: it down. I mean it was it was tough. He
29:04
Speaker 4: was slow out of the box, but from second to
29:06
Speaker 4: third especially, he was he was barely still going.
29:09
Speaker 2: I don't think he was sprinting the entire time.
29:11
Speaker 1: I mean, like I like, like it just kind of
29:13
Speaker 1: looked like he like like you said, it looked like
29:15
Speaker 1: he was already kind of you know, nagging it and
29:19
Speaker 1: like like I don't think I mean, I say this
29:21
Speaker 1: kind of tongue in cheek. It was probably one of
29:23
Speaker 1: the slower triples that you'll see because he just was
29:26
Speaker 1: not he was not sprinting because you know, because obviously,
29:30
Speaker 1: uh you know, it was bothering him. Uh So, like
29:35
Speaker 1: I don't know what was what was you know, what
29:36
Speaker 1: were people sure.
29:38
Speaker 4: I've never I've never really had a hamstring injury. And
29:41
Speaker 4: I've never definitely not played professional sports, so I don't
29:44
Speaker 4: know what that's like. But I keep coming back to like,
29:47
Speaker 4: we've seen him trying to play through this for a
29:51
Speaker 4: month and he hasn't really looked right. And as I
29:54
Speaker 4: said a while back, like I asked him, like, I
29:57
Speaker 4: assume you wouldn't be playing through this if there was
29:59
Speaker 4: any fear of making at worse right, And he was like, no,
30:02
Speaker 4: that's kind of a concern. So Austin like, what is
30:07
Speaker 4: that like? And do you think he should have been
30:10
Speaker 4: playing for this past month?
30:12
Speaker 3: Well, I will say like he was. He was playing
30:15
Speaker 3: right field? Uh correct, Yeah.
30:21
Speaker 1: He played left field on Saturday, which I was going
30:23
Speaker 1: to bring up as possibly a thing, but mainly right field.
30:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, the base hit off Schoogle, he was in right correct, Okay,
30:31
Speaker 3: So and did he kind of was kind of a
30:33
Speaker 3: little layout kind of he did.
30:35
Speaker 4: I would assume that's probably the playoff it happened.
30:39
Speaker 3: And that's what I was thinking. I was wondering if
30:41
Speaker 3: that was one of those plays where he was you know, hey, school,
30:45
Speaker 3: he hasn't given up a hit yet. I'm going to
30:47
Speaker 3: you know, he put a lot of stress in trying
30:49
Speaker 3: to catch that ball, and I'm wondering if he kind
30:52
Speaker 3: of you know that, if he kind of irritated or
30:55
Speaker 3: you know, aggravated it, you know, during that play. And
30:59
Speaker 3: then and it kind of just carried over into hitting
31:03
Speaker 3: and uh, you know you hit that, you hit that
31:06
Speaker 3: ball down the line, and you know he's sniffing the
31:08
Speaker 3: triple absolutely, and you know, putting a lot of stress
31:12
Speaker 3: and strain rounding those bases and uh, you know, getting
31:16
Speaker 3: the second and realizing like, no, I have nothing else,
31:19
Speaker 3: I have nothing left. I've been there. I've been there
31:22
Speaker 3: where I knew that there was something wrong, but I
31:25
Speaker 3: tried to keep playing through it, and I ended up
31:27
Speaker 3: making it a lot worse. I've had a hamstring injury,
31:30
Speaker 3: and it is tough when you have a hamstring injury.
31:33
Speaker 3: There you know, is as violent as he is in
31:37
Speaker 3: the box, and you know, just as aggressive as he is,
31:40
Speaker 3: you know, getting in those legs on those swings, all
31:43
Speaker 3: of that stuff matters. All of those things, you know,
31:45
Speaker 3: put stress on the legs, the drive, the you know,
31:49
Speaker 3: we we spoke about it, you know earlier before this
31:52
Speaker 3: about you know it's that that right leg. I think
31:55
Speaker 3: it's the right leg, you know, with him you know,
31:58
Speaker 3: swinging from the left side and putting a lot of
32:01
Speaker 3: force onto that that front leg when he hits you know,
32:05
Speaker 3: once he lands, I wonder if that's you know, if
32:08
Speaker 3: that's also something that has been bothering. But at the
32:11
Speaker 3: same time, you know, it hasn't really been slowing him
32:14
Speaker 3: down with the bat, so this could be something that
32:17
Speaker 3: you know, is definitely caused by you know, just running,
32:20
Speaker 3: aggravating it while while he's running, because typically that's when
32:24
Speaker 3: you get those type of injuries. When I have my
32:27
Speaker 3: hamstring injury, it never really bothered me while I was hitting.
32:30
Speaker 3: It was always on that first burst. It's always on
32:33
Speaker 3: that first burst where I kind of felt something and
32:36
Speaker 3: then I would try to you know, run through it
32:38
Speaker 3: or kind of get through it, and I would end
32:41
Speaker 3: up like, oh, it's almost it grabs on you a
32:43
Speaker 3: little bit, and depending on the severity of it. I
32:47
Speaker 3: don't know how you said when he hit second base,
32:49
Speaker 3: you saw him like completely, you know, like, hey, I'm
32:53
Speaker 3: done that. I'm thinking that it was something that probably
32:56
Speaker 3: in the outfield where he went for that ball and was,
32:59
Speaker 3: like I said, he was trying to, you know, make
33:01
Speaker 3: that play, probably aggravated it then and then when you
33:04
Speaker 3: hit a when you hit a ball that you know
33:07
Speaker 3: can potentially be a triple, you're running a little bit different.
33:11
Speaker 3: You're running a little bit different. You know, you got
33:12
Speaker 3: that double, but when you're sniffing that triple, you know,
33:14
Speaker 3: you got to get on another gear. And I think
33:16
Speaker 3: he just he got on a little too much, and
33:18
Speaker 3: I think he extended hisself and he probably you know,
33:22
Speaker 3: took that that that little nagging or a little aggravation
33:26
Speaker 3: to where it was like, okay, now it's probably strained now,
33:30
Speaker 3: like I probably you know, full on strained it. Hopefully
33:33
Speaker 3: that's not what that is. You know, Hopefully it's something
33:35
Speaker 3: that that he's able to you know, rest and and
33:39
Speaker 3: you know, the Detroit staff is able to you know,
33:42
Speaker 3: get the treatment done on him that he needs. But
33:45
Speaker 3: seeing him run back out there and and and try
33:48
Speaker 3: to fill that position in right field, in the outfield,
33:50
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be tough. The hamstrings are tough.
33:53
Speaker 3: You can't it's not a it's not an injury where
33:56
Speaker 3: you can just all right, I could just play through this.
33:58
Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna it's gonna take some It's it
34:00
Speaker 3: don't takes some time to fully heal that. You know,
34:03
Speaker 3: it's not something that's just gonna go away, depending again,
34:05
Speaker 3: depending on the severity of it. And I think that
34:08
Speaker 3: this could be something that he has to watch, maybe
34:11
Speaker 3: has to you know, not get as much time out there,
34:13
Speaker 3: and that's unfortunate because he's swinging about well and they
34:16
Speaker 3: need him in that lineup like he's a big he's
34:19
Speaker 3: a big push for them in that lineup. And again
34:23
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that it's not as severe, you know, as
34:27
Speaker 3: as it could be with the hamstring. But hopefully it's
34:30
Speaker 3: something he can just get some rest, maybe not you know,
34:34
Speaker 3: play he might have to be in a different role
34:36
Speaker 3: for a little bit to this thing kind of heals
34:38
Speaker 3: it and it gets past him.
34:40
Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor, but I almost don't care what
34:44
Speaker 4: that MRI says. I almost think you got it down.
34:47
Speaker 4: You got the All Star break, building a few extra
34:50
Speaker 4: days there, just like you need this guy at his
34:52
Speaker 4: best in September. In October, you have an eleven game
34:55
Speaker 4: division lead like water like maybe we should just be
35:00
Speaker 4: But I've been saying that for a while.
35:03
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with it.
35:04
Speaker 4: It's a little more manageable now if you wanted to.
35:06
Speaker 4: I l them you have the All Star break, like
35:09
Speaker 4: he wouldn't miss as many games though that feels a
35:11
Speaker 4: little more palatable if it's like these like an in
35:14
Speaker 4: between case like it has been sure.
35:18
Speaker 1: Well, uh, you know, not to get lost in all
35:21
Speaker 1: of that stuff, I think it's just worth noting that,
35:23
Speaker 1: you know, this was a game that ended three to nothing,
35:26
Speaker 1: and even if you have schoolble and we joked at
35:28
Speaker 1: the beginning of this, like you know, you know, shut
35:31
Speaker 1: it down after the Carpenter home run, like there's obviously
35:35
Speaker 1: there's a it's a big difference between two nothing and
35:38
Speaker 1: three nothing.
35:38
Speaker 2: So that was like a big moment in the game.
35:40
Speaker 1: And he you know, like and and that I'm sure
35:43
Speaker 1: was kind of a part of the adrenaline of of
35:45
Speaker 1: the moment in addition to just like you know, triple
35:47
Speaker 1: opportunity and all that stuff. I mean, I'm sure they're
35:52
Speaker 1: not gonna share anything all that interesting, Cody, but like
35:55
Speaker 1: what AJ and Carrie like, what was like, was there
35:58
Speaker 1: anything that gleaned from their move about it at all?
36:01
Speaker 4: Or AJ didn't seem like he knew much. Carrie, you know,
36:06
Speaker 4: he was there, he talked, so I guess that's a
36:08
Speaker 4: good sign. He said, everyone feels optimistic about it. He
36:11
Speaker 4: said it felt a lot like how it felt last time.
36:15
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's good or bad, Like
36:18
Speaker 4: I guess good in that it didn't pop and completely
36:22
Speaker 4: tear anything. I don't think. But you know, he's been
36:26
Speaker 4: at less than one hundred percent for a while and
36:29
Speaker 4: he's still getting that same feeling. It's recurred to where
36:32
Speaker 4: it's it's like flared up in a more severe way.
36:35
Speaker 4: He seems an okay spirits but kind of hard to say.
36:40
Speaker 1: Well, Vereling coming back if there's if there's another sort
36:44
Speaker 1: of like piece of the puzzle as to whether you
36:46
Speaker 1: shut down Carpenter for a bit, Matt Verlyn coming back.
36:50
Speaker 1: We saw that this weekend is a piece to that puzzle.
36:53
Speaker 1: He can obviously play right field, and you know he'll
36:56
Speaker 1: be asked to do a variety of things, but you know,
36:59
Speaker 1: like it. One of the strange things about this season
37:04
Speaker 1: and Matt Matt in particular with his health is that
37:08
Speaker 1: he hasn't really I mean, was he played total three
37:11
Speaker 1: games like he hasn't like actually kind of quote unquote
37:15
Speaker 1: like fit in to this iteration of the Tigers yet,
37:19
Speaker 1: because you know, he's been hurt and the team's been
37:21
Speaker 1: rocking and rolling. If there's like a silver lining to like,
37:25
Speaker 1: if you got to shut down Carpenter, is that you
37:28
Speaker 1: do bring in He's not like obviously the exact same
37:30
Speaker 1: type of player, but you do bring in another valuable
37:33
Speaker 1: asset to your team that can help take take on
37:37
Speaker 1: that burden. And so, like, I'm curious to see how
37:41
Speaker 1: how Matt fits in. He you know, was nice to
37:43
Speaker 1: see him get that sack fly on Saturday. Kind of
37:47
Speaker 1: get baptism into this year's Tigers team if you would.
37:51
Speaker 1: But like, like, I'm curious where you think Cody, Like
37:57
Speaker 1: where is his role? Where does Virling fit? And I
38:00
Speaker 1: guess we can kind of answer this with or without
38:02
Speaker 1: Kerry Carpenter, But like, he's he's a guy that you like,
38:05
Speaker 1: we forget how valuable he was last year and then
38:08
Speaker 1: you've they've been on this you know, winning streak, you know,
38:13
Speaker 1: this season without him, But I forget, this guy's a ballplayer. Now,
38:16
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy helps helps you win games.
38:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the good news is he can kind
38:21
Speaker 4: of fit however you want him to fit. He's gonna
38:24
Speaker 4: play some center, he's gonna play some right, He's gonna
38:27
Speaker 4: play some third base, which one he plays more may
38:30
Speaker 4: depend on how other guys are performing. If Parker meadows,
38:33
Speaker 4: I mean, they're still gonna trot Parker out there a
38:36
Speaker 4: lot for his his defense. But if that bat doesn't
38:39
Speaker 4: get going, maybe the balance shifts towards center. If Winsel
38:43
Speaker 4: Perez keeps swinging a hot bad and you want him
38:46
Speaker 4: in the lineup, maybe Ververling's not playing right as much,
38:48
Speaker 4: maybe you try to build in a little more time
38:51
Speaker 4: at third and that, you know, takes some pressure off.
38:54
Speaker 4: I mean, Jamie Jones hasn't really played there, but I
38:57
Speaker 4: guess that's the question. With Trey Sweeney out options and
39:00
Speaker 4: that was the other move. We haven't talked about that yet.
39:02
Speaker 4: Hobby is going to be mostly playing shortstop. You're still
39:05
Speaker 4: gonna have some Kinstry, some Colt at third base. And
39:08
Speaker 4: I think it's no small thing that cold Keith is
39:10
Speaker 4: playing over there. But you want to you want to
39:13
Speaker 4: go right handed. You could see, you could see Veerling.
39:17
Speaker 4: So I don't know that there's like one breakdown of
39:20
Speaker 4: this is how it's going to be. So you've watched
39:22
Speaker 4: this team. It changes every day, and it changes based
39:25
Speaker 4: on the knees, and it changes based on who's performing,
39:28
Speaker 4: and that's where the versatility of Matt Vierling shines through
39:31
Speaker 4: as his strength.
39:32
Speaker 3: Yep, you're you're you're exactly right. I think that's that's
39:35
Speaker 3: the beauty of this. This it's a good problem to
39:37
Speaker 3: have for them right now. It's unfortunate, you know that
39:41
Speaker 3: that there could be some time missed by car. But
39:45
Speaker 3: really he can fit right in. And you know, this
39:48
Speaker 3: guy can he can play. He's got a versatile bat.
39:50
Speaker 3: I think you can plug him uh in at any
39:54
Speaker 3: spot in the lineup, and I think he serves as
39:56
Speaker 3: a good right hand bat. I think that it's just
40:00
Speaker 3: gonna be a matter of you know, plugging him in
40:02
Speaker 3: there and letting him get those at bats. You know,
40:03
Speaker 3: he hasn't had that many at bats at this level
40:05
Speaker 3: right now, so he needs to you know, kind of
40:08
Speaker 3: get in, get in the groove, you know, let him
40:10
Speaker 3: get let him get those at bats, let him get
40:12
Speaker 3: out there and play some defense, and he can play anywhere.
40:15
Speaker 3: That's that's a good thing really if you can put
40:18
Speaker 3: him at any position really and kind of give other
40:22
Speaker 3: guys a break or even for matchups, even pitch hitting options.
40:25
Speaker 3: It's it's a good problem to have and I think
40:28
Speaker 3: it'll be a good fit for them and something that
40:31
Speaker 3: I don't think it will be something that where it's
40:33
Speaker 3: a big drop off necessarily obviously if you lose a
40:36
Speaker 3: carp that that is going to be a blow. But
40:39
Speaker 3: I think there's a there's a good uh you know,
40:41
Speaker 3: fit for for Matt coming in there.
40:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, careen a few a few episodes ago, we ranked
40:47
Speaker 4: like trade deadline priorities, and I had bat as you know,
40:51
Speaker 4: the lowest on mind, still something that'd be nice to have,
40:54
Speaker 4: but the lowest. The more I look at it, like
40:58
Speaker 4: the need for a bat keeps kind of dropping because
41:00
Speaker 4: who who you gonna send out? Assuming you maintain health
41:04
Speaker 4: leading up to the trade deadline, I guess you could
41:07
Speaker 4: look for like an upgrade, like a more proven version
41:10
Speaker 4: of Jami Jones, the right handed platoon bat. But if
41:12
Speaker 4: Vierling's in and he's he's playing well, I mean, then
41:16
Speaker 4: cold Table to play third. Like that need just feels
41:20
Speaker 4: less pressing. There's not really someone you're looking to boot
41:23
Speaker 4: off this roster. That's not to say they can't upgrade,
41:27
Speaker 4: give themselves the best chance, but you compare it to pitching,
41:31
Speaker 4: and the urgency continues to seem way higher on the
41:33
Speaker 4: pitching end for me.
41:36
Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to bring up I mentioned
41:39
Speaker 1: that sackfly, which you know was not that much short
41:42
Speaker 1: of a home run on Saturday for vere Link, and
41:44
Speaker 1: that was a ninety one mile an hour fastball. It's
41:48
Speaker 1: not worth trying to play the video or anything, but
41:49
Speaker 1: that was a ninety one mile an hour fastball from
41:52
Speaker 1: over And that's you know the late release point and
41:54
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You know, the plays up, you know,
41:56
Speaker 1: fastball that he throws like in on the like be
42:00
Speaker 1: a strike on the upper right handed.
42:02
Speaker 2: Quadrant if you're facing the plate.
42:04
Speaker 1: So like like the fact that he got his hands
42:07
Speaker 1: in there and was able to power that, you know,
42:09
Speaker 1: almost to the wall. That's what I mean, like what
42:12
Speaker 1: you missing in Matt Vierling because I don't know how
42:14
Speaker 1: many there's not that many guys on the team, particularly
42:17
Speaker 1: the right handed hitters that are like that are kind
42:20
Speaker 1: of they can just kind of do that like that's
42:23
Speaker 1: that's like the that's like the Matt Vierling Special.
42:25
Speaker 2: It's just kind of like making it happen.
42:27
Speaker 1: Uh So I wanted to I wanted to get go
42:30
Speaker 1: look on that on game day because I remember thinking
42:32
Speaker 1: about that time I was like, was it really that
42:34
Speaker 1: up and end I look at it, it's like, yeah,
42:35
Speaker 1: it's barely a strike.
42:37
Speaker 2: He almost set it to the wall.
42:39
Speaker 1: And and you're right, Cody in Austin about like you know,
42:42
Speaker 1: the guys that you know step up like they if
42:46
Speaker 1: we wanted to do like a Motor City pun, you
42:47
Speaker 1: could really kind of call it like an assembly line,
42:50
Speaker 1: like like AJ has assembled and Scott Harris, I've assembled
42:53
Speaker 1: an assembly line of guys that they trust and they
42:56
Speaker 1: put in situations that they think are gonna make them
42:59
Speaker 1: success full. And you know, to the player, it's it's
43:02
Speaker 1: players got players got to play. So to give them credit, absolutely,
43:06
Speaker 1: but like this is the environment, like who's gonna who
43:10
Speaker 1: wants to do? You really want to bring somebody into
43:12
Speaker 1: interrupt they probably will in some fashion, but those actually
43:16
Speaker 1: are tough decisions, not just like oh it would be
43:18
Speaker 1: so cool if player X was in the lineup, Like
43:21
Speaker 1: there're gonna be ramifications no matter what happens. Uh later
43:24
Speaker 1: in the in the month of July. So maybe maybe
43:30
Speaker 1: maybe Bregmant maybe maybe maybe he can come out to Pen.
43:34
Speaker 1: You can have like the you know Bregman two way,
43:38
Speaker 1: who knows who knows. I'm not saying it will happen,
43:40
Speaker 1: but like you know, anything is possible. On that note,
43:47
Speaker 1: is there anything else, fellas that we gotta get to?
43:50
Speaker 3: Oh? It was great, it was good, man. I'm enjoying it.
43:54
Speaker 3: I'm joining the time with you fellas man and enjoy
43:58
Speaker 3: watching some good baseball. Man. I love I love seeing
44:01
Speaker 3: how the city is supporting, man, because there is. It's
44:04
Speaker 3: just not a better place to play when when when
44:06
Speaker 3: you're playing well, you know, but they'll let you know
44:08
Speaker 3: who you're not playing well as well, you know, but
44:12
Speaker 3: when you're when when that when that city is jumping
44:14
Speaker 3: like that, man, it's it's no better environment. There might
44:18
Speaker 3: be a couple that can compare to it, but you know,
44:20
Speaker 3: being on that side and playing in front of those
44:22
Speaker 3: fans and still being able to, you know, every once
44:25
Speaker 3: in a while go back and then communicate with some
44:27
Speaker 3: fans on cameo, it's just awesome. Man. They still show
44:30
Speaker 3: their love and they you know, they still uh you know,
44:33
Speaker 3: talk about some of the things, and it's it's just
44:35
Speaker 3: really cool to uh you know, be a part of
44:38
Speaker 3: that and then to see how they've turned things around
44:40
Speaker 3: over the years. Man, These these boys are playing, and
44:43
Speaker 3: you know, I'm expecting the best from these guys, so
44:46
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it. Man, I'm loving what
44:48
Speaker 3: they're doing.
44:50
Speaker 2: Well.
44:50
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