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Breaking News: NASCAR Disqualifies Mike Wallace From Daytona 500 For Inactivity | The Kenny Wallace Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  All right, everybody, Charlie Marlow, that is the great Kenny
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  Wallace right there we are live on YouTube.
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  We're actually also live on the Kenny Wallace X page for the
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  first time. We're trying that out as well.
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  And you probably see the headline already.
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  We got 35 people that were waiting to watch this this live
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  stream already, Kenny Wallace. And it says breaking news,
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  NASCAR disqualifies Mike Wallace from Daytona 500 for inactivity.
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  Of course, your brother Mike, it was big news.
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  You broke the news basically here on the Kenny Wallace
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  YouTube channel a couple of weeks ago, and this is some
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  unfortunate news. Tell everybody what's going on,
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  Herm. Yeah, thanks, Charlie.
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  I received a call from Brother Mike on this Monday.
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  You know, I know around 3:00. And his voice sounded very
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  dejected. He's embarrassed, but the
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  headlines are right. So Mike received a phone call
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  from Elton Sawyer and Elton said, Mike, we're disqualifying
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  you not just from the Daytona 500, but anything in NASCAR.
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  And of course, Mike was upset, but nice, very nice.
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  I want to make sure everybody understands that.
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  Mike told me that. He told Elton.
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  Elton, we're friends, but can you explain to me why?
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  So Elton Sawyer told Mike that, Mike, because of your
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  inactivity, you haven't done any racing in five years.
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  So, you know, listen, all I could do is be a supportive
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  brother. I told Mike.
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  I said, Mike, listen, deep breath, keep your head up high.
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  But, you know, yeah, So I mean, that is the breaking news.
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  And I do feel bad for Mike. Mike is embarrassed and so yeah,
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  what a bummer. OK.
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  So you said not just from the Daytona 500, but from from all
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  of NASCAR. So if he wanted to try to do
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  something else, if you wanted to maybe run a truck race or an
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  Xfinity race, is that also just off the table forever or what?
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  Yeah, and, and that surprises me, Elton Sawyer told Mike.
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  Mike told me. You know, I kind of think Mike
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  called me, wanted me to know this.
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  My brother Mike said, Herman, you are the very first person
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  I've called. And I said, well, well, Mike,
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  I'll put it on coffee with Kenny tomorrow.
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  You know, listen, we made the announcement.
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  We'll end the announcement, right?
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  That's the way it goes. So Mike said, furthermore, Elton
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  said to me, Mike, you can't run anything because you you've been
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  inactive and, and I don't know, you know, I don't have Elton's
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  phone number. NASCAR has always said, if you
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  don't know, call us. So I'm sure there'll be some
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  type of announcement. Why?
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  But once again, Mike said, you know, NASCAR's the competition
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  side and that's very important because we will get to that,
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  Charlie. But but then again, I, I'm
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  wondering, OK, how will Mike, my gosh, she's got what, 800 NASCAR
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  starts? He's 65 years old.
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  But I, but I, I, I do understand NASCAR's point of view on this.
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  Mike has only run a couple dirt races.
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  I think Mike ran somewhere in Missouri and maybe down South a
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  couple dirt races lately. You know, he wasn't in anybody's
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  way. He was up to speed.
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  But NASCAR deems that Mike hasn't raced anything in five
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  years. So they're the bosses?
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  And when this news was announced just a couple weeks ago, there
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  were a couple people I know you kind of went back and forth with
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  a reporter on X who said, you know, should a 65 year old man
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  who hasn't ran in a while be able to attempt to run the
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  Daytona 500? So did you think that there was
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  a a decent chance of this happening that NASCAR would come
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  down and say, hey, you, you can't do this?
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  Or do you think that Mike was already further along, you know,
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  further enough along in the process that it was a let's go,
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  let's do this, a green light. Yeah, fair question.
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  I I'm not going to name any names because I don't want to be
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  the one to say things wrong. However, Mike did talk to NASCAR
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  executives. That's a fact.
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  And they were, they were jacked up on Sun Drop.
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  They're like, Mike, let's do it. Well, come to find out, Charlie,
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  Mike did talk to NASCAR executives.
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  However, Mike didn't talk to the competition side.
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  And you know, you learn more and more as you go.
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  So yeah, I mean, it's like, OK, I'm, I'm going to talk to
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  NASCAR. Mike talks to NASCAR and, and
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  they're excited. Well, just like companies are.
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  And, and maybe Mike should have, you know, called the competition
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  side. Mike should have maybe called
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  Elton Sawyer, but Mike thought, well, I've talked to NASCAR
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  executives, you know, they're excited and Mike kind of starts
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  to process, you know, sometimes we mess up.
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  And I don't think Mike messed up, but I think Mike felt like
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  he had the green light from NASCAR executives.
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  Well, as we know Charlie, you know, listen, you're, you're big
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  into college football and you know, you're a great sportsman.
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  You know a lot more than me, but you know, you got all these
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  categories in sports. Oh well, well, you you talked to
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  the marketing team. That's not the people in charge
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  of NASCAR. Well, who do I need to talk to?
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  Oh, you need to talk to the competition side to get
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  approved. So that's where this went wrong.
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  So yes, for the people that were not fans of Mike, for the
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  reporter that said what he said about Mike, he ends up getting
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  the last laugh. But I'm a bad ass and here I am.
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  And it hurt. It hurt me.
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  It hurt me 'cause I know my brother Mike, I love my brother
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  Mike. It hurt me to see somebody come
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  out so negative. And I already knew that Mike
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  talked to NASCAR executive. So it's neither here or there.
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  It was a timeline issue. And Mike is embarrassed.
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  He's very embarrassed. And he's like, Oh my God, I'm
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  embarrassed. But he felt like he had his
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  ducks in Rd. Charlie.
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  So you, you spoke to this a bit, but how dejected was he on the
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  phone when you, when you told you this?
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  And I think everybody knows the story by now.
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  If, if you follow the last couple weeks and, and Mike loses
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  his wife and, and you, you said he was lonely and this was kind
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  of a, a big life thing for him, right?
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  Something to look forward to. He said he was working out.
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  I mean, this is a, this is a big deal.
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  So how down in the dumps is he right now?
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  He's devastated, he's embarrassed.
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  He's more embarrassed than anything because the reason he's
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  embarrassed is because if he thought there was, you know,
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  after he talked to NASCAR executives, he would have never
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  pursued it, right? He would have never pursued it.
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  But he felt like he was good to go.
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  But yeah, he he's dejected. He's very embarrassed is what he
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  told me. But you know, I told Mike, you
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  know, and look, I am the king of possum mental attitude because
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  everybody eats dirt in life. Let's be clear about that.
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  Everybody watching this right now.
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  Yes, all of you, everybody eats dirt and you know, we all eat
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  dirt and I've ate a lot of dirt, but I'm a badass Charlie and you
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  know that I can't. Hey, even Dale Junior, Dale
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  Junior text me. He said, man, he said, I love
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  that one show where you said, I win it everything.
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  And, you know, and I referred to his dad, you know, we just do.
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  You're not going to get us. There's nobody getting nobody.
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  Charlie, this was a storyline. And, you know, the storyline
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  just kind of ended, you know, with not going, you know,
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  through it, right? So Mike made a mistake and
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  should have called competition first.
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  But you know, but yeah, he, he, he's bummed out.
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  Yeah. So not to put you on the spot
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  here, but I'm wondering, is there any precedent for
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  something like this? And and I I learned from you
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  that what Mike would have been the second, the second oldest to
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  run the Daytona 500 if he if he made it.
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  So how do you think they would rule on something like this in
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  the future? If it was somebody else, maybe
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  they were 63, but they race a little bit more.
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  I mean, you're what, 61 traders, 69 What?
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  What if somebody dirt races and do you think, do you think this
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  maybe opens up Pandora's box a little bit?
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  Could NASCAR ever have an age limit?
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  Do you think they would have to set some type of rules for
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  things like this? Great question.
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  And I like that because here's why I can relate with everything
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  right now. I can relate the NASCAR decision
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  and I can relate with Mike. And listen, it's not about me.
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  We're talking about Mike. And I don't tell anybody
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  anything. I tell them my experiences.
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  I have people all around me. Saint Herman, how do you set
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  QuickTime? How do you win these dirt races
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  against these 2530 year old people?
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  And I'm very serious when I say this.
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  I keep my reps going, you know, once, once you quit doing
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  something, you you can seize up. But I just stay racing so much.
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  OK, So I'm sure Mike, Mike would have got approved if he would
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  have stayed racing. You know, I bet Kenny Schrader
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  would have been approved because he races 80 * a year.
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  I bet I would have been approved.
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  And I'll tell you why I would have been approved because last
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  year I ran the Cars Touring series for Dale Junior.
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  Ran good on the lead lap, digging up underneath people,
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  winning all these dirt races, setting QuickTime.
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  I really think Mike would have been approved if he would have
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  kept his reps up. You know what I mean it and and
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  I think that is the deciding factor.
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  I just don't think there's a clear cut, you know, OK, you're
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  this age, you're done. Because if you go back, I can
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  remember Robin Pemberton, who was in charge of NASCAR at the
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  time we're we're watching, you know, Morgan Shepard racing at a
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  very high age. I think Morgan was 70.
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  I really do respond, right, Charlie respond.
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  But Morgan, I think was close to 70 and running the butchers.
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  But but Morgan had his reps in. And I'm not putting words in
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  Elton Sword's mouth, but I think what they looked at was Mike,
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  they had no reps, you know, and it's kind of like working out,
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  right? You know, if you've never worked
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  out, Oh my God, does that first work out just hurt?
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  I want to go back to something you said you talked to Mike
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  about, you know, the depression of this decision.
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  I just told Mike, I said, Mike, listen, keep your head up by
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  deep breath. You're still Mike Wallace.
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  That's what I meant by hey, Mike, nobody gets you, you know,
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  But listen, you, you know, I got I got a heart and I'm sorry, you
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  know, but my wife has told me in the past, Kenny, you're too
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  loyal, you're too nice. You give people too much money.
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  You're that's just my nature. So, you know, when you come
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  after any of my brothers, I'm coming back at you.
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  Listen, if you come at me or my family with a brick, I'm
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  throwing a block back and and that's just, I mean, that's the
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  way it is. So we have almost 2000 people
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  watching live right now. Thank you very much guys.
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  And please, if you haven't subscribed to the channel, hit
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  that subscribe button. Give us a like as well.
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  And I, I can't remember, but last year you, you had one of
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  the big late model guys on and didn't they say that Mike had
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  asked him about running a late model last year?
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  So, so obviously racing is on Mike's mind, whether it's late
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  models or the Daytona 500. Now, obviously they did tona 500
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  is, is the biggest stock car race on earth.
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  Do you think now that he can't do that, will he still want to
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  do something else? I mean, could a, could a cars
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  tour ride? Could doing something in dirt
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  kind of a scratch that itch that he has right now, you think?
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  Yeah, So I want to say this, Charlie, you're the best at
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  this. I grew up watching you.
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  You're you're good at it. Thank you.
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  I guess what I want to say is I support whatever my brothers
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  want to do. I don't put things in their
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  mind. People say to me, how do you get
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  along with your brother Rusty so good?
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  Because Rusty loves me. And he tells, you know, it's
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  like when people see Rusty or Mike, they go, where's your
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  brother Kenny? And I know that's got to
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  aggravate them a little bit. Not Mike's watching this right
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  now. Mike will watch us.
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  I love you, brother. I think now that this is went
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  down and me and Mike talk every day, it's like I told him about
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  Chrissy, you know, Mike's daughter, My God, she was good.
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  But it was like they kind of gave up when And like even
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  Steven, my family, I love them. When Steven couldn't run, you
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  know, the Xfinity Series and Chrissy couldn't run a high
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  level NASCAR, they gave up. They gave up in, in my message
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  and I told Chrissy this and I'm going to tell Mike this.
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  Mike, if you love racing like I do, go race spend, spend.
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  I mean, I've spent $1,000,000. I, I didn't, I built, I built a
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  shop up there. I paid for my motors.
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  I've spent a lot of money living my life out because I love
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  racing. I love racing so much.
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  You know, you know, Schrader makes fun of me.
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  You know, I tell everybody I do everything myself.
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  That's because I'm, you know, I'm staying loose.
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  I would tell Mike and Mike's listening right now, brother, if
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  you want to race that bad, go racing, go racing and whatever
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  it is, I don't know if I would do that CARS Tour series.
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  I don't know if I would do those ASA stuff because that asphalt
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  stuff, it is so technical. It's about the car.
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  Those cars are so technical, Charlie.
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  I think I would do a little bit of my stuff B mods, you know,
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  now my A mods are bad ass. They're high horsepower motors.
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  You know, you just don't jump in my car and go my car's high
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  horsepower, 800 horsepower. I mean, it's like a light and a
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  bomb, you know, even though it's, it's a, it's the four
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  series. So my answer to you was very
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  long winded, but I would tell MM if you want to race, let's race,
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  you know, and I would go dirt racing and I would do it in the
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  B mods or the A mods, you know, but Charlie, I don't need NASCAR
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  to make me feel I don't need anything.
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  I just, I need what I want, you know, and, and I'm the key.
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  I went to sports therapy, you know, Square D paid for it all.
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  They paid $22,000, you know, and I talked to Don the Snake for
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  Dome. I talked to Brother Rusty.
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  These are the most badass athletes in the world.
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  They're they're boulders. They're right.
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  You're not going to get them. And they taught me all these
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  techniques. So just take care of yourself,
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  Brother Mike. If you want to race, let's race.
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  Yeah. Yeah, we have about 2500 people
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  watching. Some people are just jumping in
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  and wanting to know the story, which we're going on 16 minutes
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  now. But so if you don't know, the
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  headline pretty much says it all.
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  NASCAR dequeuing Mike Wallace from his attempt, he was going
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  to try to run the Daytona 500 and it's for inactivity.
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  He's 65 years old. And the, the business side of
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  this I, I'm guessing is all good because as you discussed with
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  Mike, and I don't remember if he, if he said the amount of
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  money on air, he told us, I know, but he had this car.
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  It was basically a blank car and he could sell all the
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  sponsorships and it seemed like he had a deal in place and then
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  he gets this curveball. So is that all good from what
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  you've heard? Well, you know, listen, I'm, I'm
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  guilty of being straight up Mike doesn't need money.
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  Mike can live on land itself. Brother Mike is an incredible
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  entrepreneur. He, he, he takes commercial real
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  estate and, and and fixes up and sells it.
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  However, you know there's an old story the the reason me and
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  Rusty made it to Charlotte so quick is because we ate peanut
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  butter and Jelly sandwiches. We were broke as a joke.
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  Brother Mike has never been broke in his life.
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  Mike is smarter than Rusty and me.
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  Mike has always been better with his money.
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  So Mike was going to bankroll this all on his own.
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  I know it shocks people. I got this story burning in my
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  head. Kyle Petty told me this, Kyle
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  Petty said. And this is kind of like Mike,
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  Kyle Petty said. Diddy you know down South they
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  call their dads Diddy's, which would have been richer, Richard
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  Petty said. Kyle take all these old parts
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  over to Buddy Arrington. Well for all the old fans, Buddy
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  Arrington was a guy that ran 20th every week.
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  So Kyle says, I take all these parts over to Buddy Arrington's
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  and he says I roll up and Buddy Arrington's living in this
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  mansion because Buddy decided to run 20th.
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  Kyle said we were broke. Petty Enterprises didn't have
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  any money. If you look at it right now,
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  Richard's living in this little bitty old home because they
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  spent all their money on racing you'll Mike's wealthy and that's
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  just, that's just the way it is because Mike was born like that.
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  So Mike was going to bankroll all this on his own.
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  However, he had the opportunity to sell the car cause 'cause
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  Carl Long said give me this much and if you get any more, you can
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  keep it. Mike was raising money and so
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  Mike will simply just give that money back to the people.
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  So yeah. OK, let's see.
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  We had a ton of comments which we can't get to, to all of them,
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  but and there's a lot of complimentary ones of Mike
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  obviously. And people are saying, you know,
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  this kind of stinks 'cause they were rooting for him.
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  Here's 1 though, just because this person, Liberty or Death
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  says I'm kind of on NASCAR's side with this one.
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  He's older and hasn't raised anything in ages.
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  I also hope NASCAR loses the lawsuit.
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  Now that's obviously different. The second part is the lawsuit
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  about Denny Hamlin and Michael Jordan.
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  But I, I guess what this person's trying to say is, and
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  I'm sure they were rooting for Mike, but I do think you can
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  understand, yes, even if you don't agree with NASCAR, you
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  can, you can understand it is. What I'm saying, yes, and, and,
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  and I I liked that question because what he did is what I
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  do, I'm going to hit you hard, but then I'm like, I'm going to
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  pull. You know, when I use a knife, I
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  never puncture the skin. That man did not puncture the
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  skin, he said. Just worried about Mike and, and
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  you know, me too. OK, so I'm cheering my brother
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  on, you know what I mean? I'm cheering my brother.
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  I just, hey, listen, it's no different than when Kenny
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  Schrader told me. And, and, and Kenny Schrader, if
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  you're listening to this, we're brothers.
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  When Kenny Schrader told me he was going to run a a champ car
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  at the coin last year, I was like, what?
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  Champ cars are the most dangerous race cars.
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  Now they're big, but I would say a Sprint car, a non wing Sprint
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  car is more dangerous. But when Kenny Schrader told me
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  he was going to run a champ car at the coin, I'm like, why?
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  You know, so this can go all the way, You know what I mean?
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  You know, does Mike have a death wish?
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  No, you know, I mean, how many times did Dale Senior say drop
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  the rag? It's like, oh gosh, aren't you
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  afraid? You know, don't you want to
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  defend against this? I bet people say to me, why
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  don't you take your modified to a mild dirt track?
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  And I'm like, because I build my own race cars.
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  It's got a Pinto spindle on the right front.
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  The drive shaft is small. Now I'll run an arc car at at
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  the coin. So my my answer is this.
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  I was worried about Mike too, but I figured, you know, the
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  cars are safe and this is what Mike wants to do.
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  That's where that's where I was coming from, you know.
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  So I, you know, the guy that came out and was rude right away
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  to Mike. I, I, I acknowledge it.
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  I acknowledge it. It was just hard for me to hear.
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  I don't like people roughing my family.
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  Like I said, you, you throw a block at me, you, you throw a
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  brick at me, I'm coming back with a block.
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  So I acknowledge all of it. I acknowledge it all, and here
• 21:52
  we are. And it is more of a story about
• 21:55
  life. Now, Charlie, you know, it's no
• 21:58
  different than and you, Charlie. Let me turn this around a little
• 22:02
  bit. What sports figure was it?
• 22:05
  Albert Poole? So was it Jimmy Edmonds, who,
• 22:07
  you know, these guys that are 38?
• 22:08
  I mean, who's the guy that pitched for the Mets that was 40
• 22:14
  years old? You know, we see these guys
• 22:15
  doing this like, oh, my God, you know what I mean?
• 22:18
  You got to see that, right? Absolutely.
• 22:21
  What I'm wondering too is I, I think this is kind of
• 22:24
  interesting. It's it's not going to happen
• 22:26
  now, but we can talk about it. I mean, somebody who's 65 years
• 22:29
  old but has ran NASCAR essentially their whole life and
• 22:33
  is somebody who's great at Daytona, great at a, at a
• 22:38
  drafting track. And then, and I'm, I'm bringing
• 22:41
  this up because kind of the story of last week is somebody
• 22:43
  like Elio Castroneves, who obviously is this superstar
• 22:46
  racer, but NASCAR is going to allow some of these world class
• 22:50
  drivers with bigger names, whether you're F1, IndyCar,
• 22:54
  these guys can drive. But here's somebody like Mike,
• 22:57
  who obviously doesn't have as big of a name as Elio
• 22:59
  Castroneves, but he knows NASCAR.
• 23:02
  And that's that's kind of interesting too if you're
• 23:04
  talking about it from a safety standpoint.
• 23:06
  I understand Mike's older, but I mean he is a NASCAR driver and
• 23:11
  NASCAR is going to be allowing some F1 guys and some open wheel
• 23:14
  guys that don't have nearly as much seat experience in a stock
• 23:18
  car, right? Yeah, and, and I think Mike got
• 23:22
  lost in the holidays too. I, I think if Mike would have
• 23:25
  announced this, let's say December 1st, because I'm
• 23:30
  thinking Mike announces I got back from my cruise, you know, I
• 23:35
  think, I think Mike announces too late.
• 23:38
  And you, you, Charlie, look, I, I understand the executives are
• 23:42
  involved, but let's face it, those executives, they leave
• 23:47
  December 23rd and they're getting back from their ski
• 23:51
  trips, you know, and I think, I think Mike got lost by the
• 23:58
  executives because here, you know, when we look back at it
• 24:01
  now, we're just discussing it, OK?
• 24:03
  Yeah, we, we've said nothing bad.
• 24:05
  We're discussing this. If this were to ever happen
• 24:08
  again, now that I look at it, now that you're poking my brain
• 24:12
  right now, they should have said, hey, Mike, we want you to
• 24:17
  go to the ARCA test. And we want to see you.
• 24:21
  And we want to see what we want to watch you get out of this
• 24:23
  car. Because, see, that's what they
• 24:25
  did with all of us. You know, Charlie, there's a
• 24:27
  rule in place right now. You just.
• 24:30
  Mike's texting me right now. Let me see.
• 24:33
  Hold on. OK.
• 24:36
  Oh, wow. He wrote me a love letter.
• 24:40
  And he probably doesn't know we're on right now.
• 24:42
  But yeah, January 22 will be will be one year since Carla
• 24:49
  passed. Mike just said it's been a
• 24:53
  shitty day. Sorry for the cuss word, but
• 24:57
  it's a long one. It's about this long.
• 24:59
  He doesn't even know we're on the air right now.
• 25:01
  But this is recorded, so he'll go back and watch it.
• 25:03
  Love you, brother. So here's what I think.
• 25:06
  Here's what they did with me. Here's my story.
• 25:09
  Remember, everybody, my new deal over the last couple years, I
• 25:12
  don't tell anybody what to do. Tell you my story, NASCAR said
• 25:16
  to me, Kenny, you know, what you need to do is send us, you know,
• 25:24
  send us your, your, your biography.
• 25:26
  So I said, OK, I've run ASAI run Michigan Speedway in my SA car.
• 25:32
  I run Salem IN I, I, I run Winchester and Les Richter was
• 25:38
  the guy that wanted he was the man.
• 25:40
  Les was the man. He was the Elton Sawyer and my,
• 25:44
  my wife and my mom and myself, we put this beautiful biography
• 25:49
  together, sent at the NASCAR and they said, wow, we've never seen
• 25:53
  anything like this. You're approved to come down and
• 25:56
  test. So I went to Daytona, but I've
• 26:00
  already run, I'd already run Michigan Superspeedway in my ASA
• 26:04
  car. And I go down there and I spent
• 26:07
  two weeks testing. Then they approved me.
• 26:12
  Then they approved me. OK.
• 26:14
  So I really think that if Mike would have started this process
• 26:18
  earlier, it wouldn't have got lost in the holidays and he
• 26:23
  couldn't be, he could even play his case.
• 26:24
  He says, hey, how about I go down in an ARCA car?
• 26:27
  You know, so as we look back, you know, we're just discussing
• 26:33
  how to keep this from ever happening again.
• 26:35
  And you know, you just simply can't show up and go to Daytona.
• 26:38
  And I know that's a big statement.
• 26:40
  Charlie is simply can't just go to Daytona, but with 800 NASCAR
• 26:44
  starts, Mike's like I'll just go to Daytona.
• 26:48
  He talks to some of the executives.
• 26:50
  They're like, that's awesome. So yeah, then he doesn't, he
• 26:53
  doesn't talk to the competition side and he gets this, you know,
• 26:59
  tough phone call today. Yeah, well, people are into the
• 27:02
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• 27:05
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• 27:17
  And because we still have so many people watching Kenny and
• 27:20
  it is a really interesting story and now it's all, it's all
• 27:23
  hypothetical anyway. What do you think?
• 27:26
  How tough of a task do you think it would have been for Mike to
• 27:29
  make this race? I remember when he did the
• 27:31
  interview with you at the time, couple weeks ago, I believe he
• 27:35
  said there were about 8 cars that we're going to be we're
• 27:39
  going to be competing for the final four spots, right?
• 27:42
  And that was before NASCAR changes this rule.
• 27:45
  So now Elio Castroneves can be the 41st car.
• 27:48
  So whatever the math is, if Mike had to be one of three or four
• 27:52
  cars out of seven or eight to make the field, how much of an
• 27:56
  uphill battle do you think that would have been for?
• 28:00
  So I'm going to answer that question, but in a little
• 28:03
  different way. It was always going to be an
• 28:06
  uphill battle, but I think this was about the process for Mike.
• 28:11
  You know, when you interview people, sometimes it's hard to
• 28:13
  get things out of them. So I'm going to, I'm going to
• 28:15
  look into my brother's brain. I think this was more about the
• 28:19
  process because Mike always says, you know, if I don't
• 28:23
  qualify, good, I'm going to race my way in.
• 28:27
  Mike had this positive mental attitude.
• 28:29
  If I don't straight up, if if my speed is not fast enough, hell,
• 28:36
  I'm just going to qualify because Mike did that a lot.
• 28:40
  Mike was always in the twin at the time.
• 28:42
  It was the twin one 50s. Then they made it the twin 120
• 28:46
  fives. So Mike always raced his way in.
• 28:50
  Mike for furthermore, brother, brother Mike and myself never
• 28:55
  drove cars good enough that have speed.
• 28:57
  We were always either for me. I had one year where I was in on
• 29:01
  points, but you know, we always drove a lesser cars.
• 29:04
  And then, you know, my popularity with, you know,
• 29:08
  Talladega was because I was a good drafter, you know, and then
• 29:11
  then the same thing with when I drove the what was it the 87 for
• 29:15
  Furniture Row and I didn't qualify in on speed, but I I ran
• 29:19
  5th or 6th in the 2150 and I raced my way in.
• 29:22
  And you know, so as Wallace says it, you know, we were always
• 29:26
  used to just taking mediocre cars and running those twin
• 29:30
  races and making it exciting. So in Mike's brain, Mike's
• 29:34
  Mike's going, hey, I'm going to speed weeks if I don't qualify,
• 29:38
  I'm going to run the twin 150. If I don't make the Daytona 500,
• 29:42
  You know, those qualifying races are on big TV.
• 29:45
  So I think that's the way Mike was looking at it.
• 29:48
  It would have been dejecting for him not to make the 500, but I
• 29:52
  think he he could. He would have been OK with it.
• 29:56
  For sure. All right.
• 29:56
  We're at about right at 30 minutes now.
• 30:00
  We've we've kind of talked all angles and anything I left out
• 30:03
  that you didn't get off your chest here before we wrap up.
• 30:07
  Nope, I think you did good, Charlie.
• 30:10
  Like I said, you're the best of this.
• 30:11
  I grew up watching you on Channel 2.
• 30:14
  I appreciate you interviewing me about it.
• 30:19
  I don't think right now was the time for Mike to talk.
• 30:22
  I'm not talking for him. I told Mike I was going to do
• 30:26
  this on coffee with Kenny, but I just felt like that was the
• 30:29
  wrong format. Because as you can tell, we've,
• 30:33
  you know, we tell what happened and then it's like, OK, how do
• 30:37
  we keep this from happening again?
• 30:39
  You know, because like I said, I bet Schrader would have been
• 30:43
  approved because he's racing every single week.
• 30:46
  And, and, and, you know, it comes down to their decision,
• 30:50
  you know, and they look at the paperwork and they're like, hold
• 30:53
  on. Mike hasn't raced any asphalt in
• 30:56
  five years. And I thought that too.
• 31:00
  But I thought, hey, you know, he, he's going to get some SIM
• 31:03
  work. He's going to go on the chassis
• 31:05
  down, he's going to go through the gearbox, He's working out,
• 31:08
  you know, and I and I, listen, I'll leave you with this,
• 31:12
  Charlie. If anybody was going to tell
• 31:15
  Mike no, it was going to be Rusty, not me, because Rusty's
• 31:21
  Rusty's the alpha male in this family.
• 31:23
  And I love my brother Rusty, but I don't Jack with him because
• 31:27
  he's the boss and it's just easier, you know?
• 31:30
  And we've listen, me and Rusty have had some knock down, drag
• 31:33
  out arguments. We we have up as a year ago, you
• 31:37
  know, but over silly stuff. And we love each other.
• 31:41
  We're extremely close, all of us brothers are.
• 31:44
  But if somebody's going to go, Mike, you know, we all told him
• 31:48
  he was crazy in a funny way, right?
• 31:50
  What the fuck are you doing? What?
• 31:51
  Well, OK, so, but you know, Rusty's response was, and you
• 31:55
  know what Kenny Schrader's response was, I wished I could
• 31:59
  do it. Kenny Schrader said I'd love to
• 32:01
  do it. Rusty said I'd love to do it,
• 32:03
  but my eyes are too bad. So, you know, I think I just
• 32:08
  want to end like that. And you know, what a dream it
• 32:12
  was, What a dream it was. And I'll, I'll be reaching out
• 32:17
  to Mike and, you know, we'll give him some positive mental
• 32:20
  attitude and maybe something goodwill come out of this.
• 32:25
  Well said. You mentioned you mentioned
• 32:27
  Schrader. Just so everybody knows, we got
• 32:29
  Herman Schrader coming out tomorrow here on YouTube and
• 32:33
  Dirty MO Media podcast. And then we have the Kenny
• 32:35
  conversation with Amy Earnhardt, which is really good.
• 32:40
  Recorded that one already. So that'll come out on the
• 32:42
  YouTube channel here on Wednesday, Herm, and then
• 32:45
  that'll be on Kenny Conversations Dirty MO Media
• 32:48
  podcast on Thursday. So we got a lot going on this
• 32:51
  week. And Amy Earnhardt did not let us
• 32:53
  down. She is absolutely fantastic.
• 32:56
  I did a deep dive on wilcopedia and everyone.
• 32:59
  She said Kenny Wallace. She said laugh out loud.
• 33:02
  She texted me. Well, then we interviewed her.
• 33:04
  She says you're the CIA. And yeah, listen to that one.
• 33:09
  You'll understand why Dale Junior married her.
• 33:12
  She she's a bad ass. And yeah, it's a good one.
• 33:16
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• 33:23
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