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- 0:07Speaker 1: Friends and family plantically searching for the woman they referred
- 0:10Speaker 1: to as super Mom. I'm getting very angry and frustrated,
- 0:14Speaker 1: and I'm scared um for my wife. This is Crime
- 0:19Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. The thirty four year old was
- 0:22Speaker 1: found on the side of the road near Sacramento, nearly
- 0:25Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty miles from where authorities believed she
- 0:28Speaker 1: was taken while out jogging near her northern California home.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Is now safe. We still do not have a motive
- 0:36Speaker 1: as to the reason why Mrs Rippini was taken. Do
- 0:38Speaker 1: you believe Mrs rippini story? Absolutely? She had reported she
- 0:42Speaker 1: had been abducted, She was discovered in restraints and had
- 0:47Speaker 1: been assaulted. I will confirmed, but the suspects did brand her.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Imagine this. You come home from work. No one greets
- 0:59Speaker 1: you at the door, instead of your spouse walking up
- 1:04Speaker 1: and saying how is your day, your children running to you,
- 1:06Speaker 1: or you hear them playing in the distance. There's an
- 1:09Speaker 1: eerie quiet. You call the daycare. They're still there. They've
- 1:15Speaker 1: never been picked up. Your spouse doesn't answer their cell phone,
- 1:20Speaker 1: and suddenly you know, deep inside something is horribly, horribly wrong.
- 1:26Speaker 1: That is just exactly what Keith Peppini says happened to
- 1:31Speaker 1: him just before Thanksgiving, and in the last hours, the
- 1:36Speaker 1: first photos of his wife, Sherry Peppini, the kidnaped mom,
- 1:42Speaker 1: have emerged. In these photos, Sherry looks gaunt, very very thin, frail, weak, pale.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Her beautiful long blonde hair that she wore her crowning
- 1:56Speaker 1: glory isn't it's unseen. It's took severely under a cap because,
- 2:02Speaker 1: according to her, her kidnappers cut off all of her hair.
- 2:07Speaker 1: We're talking about Sherry p Paeni out of Sacramento Valley
- 2:12Speaker 1: and with me is Alan Duke. You know, Alan Duke,
- 2:15Speaker 1: investigative reporter. So many people have doubted her story. Why.
- 2:21Speaker 1: I've covered several sensational stories in which a person claimed
- 2:25Speaker 1: to have been kidnapped, sometimes by a person of another race,
- 2:28Speaker 1: and it turned out they just ran away for whatever
- 2:31Speaker 1: reasons they left. Maybe they wanted to break from the
- 2:35Speaker 1: life they didn't like, or or they wanted to avoid
- 2:37Speaker 1: something coming up. Since it's rare for a kidnapped woman
- 2:40Speaker 1: to be freed by kidnappers weeks later, it triggers those
- 2:44Speaker 1: suspicions with something like this happens. We remember those hoaxes
- 2:48Speaker 1: and we try to put this case in that box.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Are you talking ba ba ba? Wait? Are you talking
- 2:53Speaker 1: about Jennifer will Banks, the runaway bride? Who it was
- 2:57Speaker 1: the night before her wedding and she disappeared and there
- 3:01Speaker 1: was a massive search for her. And as it turned out,
- 3:05Speaker 1: she blamed I think she blamed a couple of Hispanic
- 3:10Speaker 1: guys and gave a very vague description and said she
- 3:13Speaker 1: had been assaulted. And as it turned out, what had
- 3:16Speaker 1: really happened and she got cold feet and took a powder.
- 3:20Speaker 1: She was the real runaway bride. So are you somehow
- 3:24Speaker 1: alan equating Sherry Peppini with the runaway bride? Is that
- 3:29Speaker 1: what I'm hearing? I'm exactly doing that. I covered that
- 3:32Speaker 1: story very very closely. Of course, she was in the
- 3:35Speaker 1: Atlanta area, uh, and it was a very dramatic thing.
- 3:38Speaker 1: It ended I believe in Albuquerque, New Mexico. She ended
- 3:41Speaker 1: up taking a bus from Atlanta to Albuquerque, New Mexico.
- 3:46Speaker 1: When the police found her. I think it was at
- 3:49Speaker 1: a bus station in Albuquerque. I was on duty work
- 3:51Speaker 1: in the story at that moment, and we were so
- 3:54Speaker 1: shocked when we found out what really happened that it
- 3:57Speaker 1: was she just got cold feet and she ran, and
- 4:00Speaker 1: of course we call her the runaway Brian Well. I
- 4:02Speaker 1: remember that because I had been in touch with her parents,
- 4:07Speaker 1: with her father specifically, and he was heart broken. The
- 4:12Speaker 1: h E double l she put her family through. But okay,
- 4:15Speaker 1: we're going can we get it back in the middle
- 4:17Speaker 1: of the road, Alan Duke, all right, because we're way
- 4:20Speaker 1: out in the weeds right now. We're talking about Sherry Peppini,
- 4:24Speaker 1: the mother of two young children that disappears. But this
- 4:29Speaker 1: is this is the difference. Sherry Peppini had been out
- 4:34Speaker 1: ostensibly jogging as I started. Her husband comes home, The
- 4:38Speaker 1: children don't run to the door, she doesn't answer the door.
- 4:42Speaker 1: He can't find her. He calls the daycare. The children
- 4:45Speaker 1: are still there. She had never come to pick them up.
- 4:48Speaker 1: That was the first. Then he does he find my
- 4:52Speaker 1: iPhone up, and he finds her iPhone on a jogging
- 4:56Speaker 1: trail with her earbuds, with her hair ostensibly wound up
- 5:02Speaker 1: in the earbuds. So that's where it all starts. He
- 5:05Speaker 1: immediately calls one. It's right before Thanksgiving, like two weeks
- 5:09Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving. And can you even imagine I remember not this,
- 5:14Speaker 1: but the last Thanksgiving, my Dad, it just passed away.
- 5:18Speaker 1: And when we all gathered, the weight of that empty
- 5:23Speaker 1: chair was just over whelming. And I imagined the Peppini's
- 5:29Speaker 1: Alan Duke at Thanksgiving how that was going to be.
- 5:34Speaker 1: But that's not the way it turned out. Because that day, Alan,
- 5:38Speaker 1: remember this, motorists call nine one one. They passed her,
- 5:42Speaker 1: but they called one. Motorist finally stopped and out of
- 5:46Speaker 1: nowhere comes Sherry Peppini. She's practically starved, her hair is
- 5:50Speaker 1: all cut off, she's covered in bruises, and she has
- 5:54Speaker 1: a chain around her waist and she is bound chained
- 5:58Speaker 1: to a heavy object. Now, are you telling me that
- 6:01Speaker 1: you think she staged that whole thing? No, exactly, I'm
- 6:06Speaker 1: not saying that because of whatever how we found her.
- 6:10Speaker 1: When you look at all of that evidence that you
- 6:12Speaker 1: just gave, it's hard to imagine that she is one
- 6:15Speaker 1: of those runaway brides or one of those hoax situations,
- 6:19Speaker 1: because how do you self inflict that on yourself? Well
- 6:22Speaker 1: did you just say, how do your self inflict that
- 6:25Speaker 1: on yourself? Well? Bad English? Okay, poor, it's poor English.
- 6:30Speaker 1: It's poor English. Once again, we're often Alan, do Gland.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Let's get back and sharing a peaty world. Here's another thing.
- 6:36Speaker 1: I'll tell you why people I think had a problem
- 6:38Speaker 1: with it, because statistically it's unheard of. She says that
- 6:43Speaker 1: she is kidnapped in an area where there's a very
- 6:47Speaker 1: little crime by two female Hispanic females. First of all,
- 6:52Speaker 1: for a female to commit this kind of crime is
- 6:54Speaker 1: unheard of, if you look at the methods and assessment
- 6:57Speaker 1: of homicide, very very rare that a female executes a
- 7:03Speaker 1: violent crime another female like this. She says she never
- 7:07Speaker 1: saw their faces. They kept a hood on her the
- 7:08Speaker 1: whole time, although now we're hearing that one has salt
- 7:12Speaker 1: and pepper straight hair and one has curly hair, and
- 7:15Speaker 1: one's older than the other one, so you had to
- 7:17Speaker 1: see them somehow. But she says she was kept captive.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I mean, statistically, alan sev of violent crimes are committed
- 7:25Speaker 1: by men, twenty by women the remaining five percent. We
- 7:28Speaker 1: don't know if it was a man or a woman,
- 7:30Speaker 1: so this is highly unlikely. I also think that if
- 7:34Speaker 1: her wounds were self inflicted, doctors would be able to
- 7:38Speaker 1: tell that. So I assume that they are not self inflicted,
- 7:43Speaker 1: or there would not still be a search going on.
- 7:47Speaker 1: It's odd on either side, and that's what we're left with.
- 7:51Speaker 1: You want to believe that it is not a hoax,
- 7:54Speaker 1: and there's plenty of reason not to believe it at
- 7:56Speaker 1: a is a hoax. But as you say, this is
- 7:58Speaker 1: against the odds. But there are the those aberrations, There
- 8:01Speaker 1: are those cases where something happens that is against the norm,
- 8:04Speaker 1: and this sounds like it's one of those. Are so
- 8:07Speaker 1: anxious to rush judging her and say she made the
- 8:12Speaker 1: whole thing up. But let's think about it. The husband
- 8:14Speaker 1: apparently took a polygraph and passed that was reported, So
- 8:19Speaker 1: in order to think this was a hoax, what the
- 8:21Speaker 1: husband was in on it, I don't believe that they
- 8:24Speaker 1: would do that to their children or their families. So
- 8:28Speaker 1: let's just say the husband's not in on it, say
- 8:30Speaker 1: it's all her. So what she starved herself for almost
- 8:34Speaker 1: three weeks, beat herself, branded herself, and cut off her
- 8:37Speaker 1: own hair. While you would expect such a kidnapping would
- 8:40Speaker 1: be carried out by men, and Peppini says her kidnappers
- 8:44Speaker 1: were women. Could it be though, that these women were
- 8:46Speaker 1: part of a group including men, and they were just
- 8:50Speaker 1: chosen to be the primary kidnappers. But but still why
- 8:54Speaker 1: would they take her, keep her for two weeks and
- 8:56Speaker 1: and and then set her free. Well, you know that's
- 8:58Speaker 1: another good point, Alan, and I agree with you, because
- 9:01Speaker 1: you've got to look at Although the state does not
- 9:03Speaker 1: have to prove motive at trial, you have to look
- 9:05Speaker 1: at does this make sense. It reminds me a little
- 9:09Speaker 1: bit of the job in a case, because I always said,
- 9:11Speaker 1: why would a kidnapper come in the home to steal
- 9:14Speaker 1: job in a for ransom and then at the last
- 9:16Speaker 1: minute go, oh, you know what, I just think I'll
- 9:19Speaker 1: kill her and you're and leave her forget about the ransom.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense. Why would two women come along, kidnap
- 9:25Speaker 1: her for whatever reason and then go, you know what,
- 9:28Speaker 1: forget about that. I'm just gonna throw her out on
- 9:30Speaker 1: the side of the road and be done with it.
- 9:32Speaker 1: It doesn't really make sense, right. I've covered a lot
- 9:35Speaker 1: of crimes that are just by the book, and the
- 9:38Speaker 1: detectives sort of know they've been there, done that, got
- 9:42Speaker 1: the T shirt, and they start to expect normal patterns.
- 9:45Speaker 1: But this one doesn't fit a normal pattern. Are detectives
- 9:49Speaker 1: equipped to think out of the box like that? I mean,
- 9:51Speaker 1: you work with them, prosecutors, how hard is it for
- 9:54Speaker 1: them to think out of the box. Well, of course
- 9:56Speaker 1: they are. I mean, I think that really minimizes their capacities.
- 10:00Speaker 1: They think just like we think, but at a certain
- 10:03Speaker 1: and they know a lot more than we know, but
- 10:05Speaker 1: at a certain point they get stumped. Well, here's the deal.
- 10:09Speaker 1: She's home now, her families are relieved, her children have
- 10:13Speaker 1: their mother back. So far, we believe he has passed
- 10:17Speaker 1: a lie detector tests. And in order to believe that
- 10:21Speaker 1: she did this herself should either have to have an
- 10:24Speaker 1: accomplice or she would have had to inflict these wounds
- 10:28Speaker 1: on herself and starved herself. And back to the big development.
- 10:32Speaker 1: She's first spotted for the first time since she in public,
- 10:36Speaker 1: since she was kidnapped, and she is emaciated looking. She's
- 10:41Speaker 1: very thin, weak, pale. She's wearing a baseball cap with
- 10:46Speaker 1: a hoodie over that and a jacket over that. The
- 10:50Speaker 1: jack is huge, swallows her up and she's with her
- 10:53Speaker 1: children and her husband. So at the end of the day,
- 10:56Speaker 1: miracles do happen, Alan do miracles you happen? It could
- 11:01Speaker 1: be very well that that is what this is. It
- 11:03Speaker 1: is a miracle. The odds of her coming back. We've
- 11:06Speaker 1: seen a couple of the really sensational cases where somebody
- 11:09Speaker 1: emerges after years and years after a kidnapping. A couple
- 11:12Speaker 1: of weeks is pretty remarkable in itself. This is one
- 11:15Speaker 1: thing I think when I see a picture like these
- 11:18Speaker 1: photos that we're seeing, I'm thankful to see that she's
- 11:20Speaker 1: doing okay, But I'm wondering, are people stalking her trying
- 11:24Speaker 1: to get pictures of her this crime victim in order
- 11:26Speaker 1: to make a little money. Now does she have to
- 11:28Speaker 1: worry about that? Well? I can answer that right now. Yes,
- 11:31Speaker 1: they are. They certainly are. That is something she's going
- 11:34Speaker 1: to have to endure for quite a while until this
- 11:37Speaker 1: case is finally put to rest. You either have to
- 11:40Speaker 1: believe her or believe she could have done this all
- 11:44Speaker 1: as some sort of hoax and left behind her children.
- 11:48Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you something, Alan, I thought I
- 11:50Speaker 1: knew what love was until I had the twins, and
- 11:53Speaker 1: there is nothing compared to a mother's love. And maybe
- 11:56Speaker 1: I'm projecting, but I find it very hard to believe
- 12:00Speaker 1: that she would willingly leave for children as part of
- 12:02Speaker 1: some hoax. Find it hard to believe. So, just for
- 12:05Speaker 1: right now, Alan, can we stop analyzing Sherry Peppini in
- 12:10Speaker 1: the possibility she pulled a hoax and just be happy.
- 12:14Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'm with you on that that,
- 12:17Speaker 1: Alan Duke, I will sign off and say goodbye friends
- 12:22Speaker 1: and thank you for being with us.