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722. The Truth About Joining Sessions as a Newbie · Be It Till You See It

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[SPEAKER_01]: when you are beginner there is a anxiety about how do I join what's the etiquette do I have enough skills to be here my loudest sit here can I sit there and she explained that you're scared because you just don't know how to enter the space and I think it's really important to acknowledge that when we're a beginner if things were allowed to have some fear you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Beat Till You See at Podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also Logan, Ply's instructor, and fit this business coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've trained thousands of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My friends, action brings clarity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the antidote to fear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Each week my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a practice, not a perfect, let's get started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: welcome back to the beat till you see interview we kept for my co-hosts in life Brad and I are going to dig into the warm combo I have with Terek on a hand in our last episode if you haven't yet listened interview you can pause this go listen to that and then come back to this you can listen to this and go back to that she's an Irish accent yes she does so sometimes that's fun to listen to it sure was
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's also a musician.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, love them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, it's and she's a great podcast as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like winning awards even though it's like brand new because it's like so niche like it's a niche and a niche.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get into that in a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First, today is August 20th, 2026 and it's world mosquito day because you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those little fuckers need their own day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, honestly, because you need to be reminded that they suck, but even though you know but you need to know how bad it is because it's bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Literally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, oh, that's so funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pond wasn't intended, but I slayed that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're on the Skido Day United Skloble Health Efforts every August 20th commemorating Sur Ronald Ross's 1897 discovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The mosquitoes transmit malaria.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thanks, Sur Ronald Ross.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think his parents named him Sur Ronald Ross?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he was a Ronald Ross in the, they got the Sur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got the serve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this crucial day it raises awareness about the ongoing threat of mosquito born illnesses like dengue, dengue, dengue, zika.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we normally know as dengue fever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dengue fever, zika and yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck on that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, remind me of a chicken gun, yeah, but chicken chicken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anyways, well, my speech therapy didn't help with that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Discover how you can protect yourself, support research, and contribute to eradication initiatives worldwide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what you can do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep your fucking still water from being still.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys stir your pools.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't let you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I listened to an episode of The Daily Years ago when it was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it talked about how there are these mosquitoes that can live in a cap full.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like into this plastic water bottles, that size careful of water in a tire across continents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in a ship that takes months and then they can just spread.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't need a lot of water anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you guys have got to move your water around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember when we lived in LA and there was a big deal about the virus and we were like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: like airport everybody was like on guard for puddles and like drying things up it was like a weird commit it was before COVID but L.A. had a community because people were getting I don't think it was Zika but it was like there was a virus has been carried by the mosquitoes and there was a reason why like even the airport had to clean up their water they were giving up fines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Zika's usually in Asia but like I mean it can be I can obviously can spread.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously I talked about the same water around your home, but applying an EPA registered repellent and raising awareness about mosquito-borne diseases is a great way to support the public health initiatives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then funny, if we just start going around everybody today, I want you to go around, go, it's real mosquito-day, do you have any standing water?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know about how to get rid of mosquitoes?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Vegas was notoriously known for having no mosquitoes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we have lots of mosquitoes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a whole mosquito problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's only one who studies the whole thing, but no, we have mosquitoes and it's really annoying because I thought it only got bit by mosquitoes when I was in Cambodia, now we get bit all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even, I mean, honestly, LA was like, I, I can feel like I got more mosquitoes in LA than Cambodia, but it depends on the time of year in Cambodia, I think, it depends on the season of course, but it is like our mosquitoes there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We we we had a lot more in Thailand than Thailand killed me Cambodia I've learned to figure it out and when you come to our retreat in Cambodia We tell you what to do so you don't get bit all right you guys We are what do we got going on we're on our way back from the tour actually so we're probably either all past so we're
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[SPEAKER_01]: On our way to Tucson right now, we're going to wrap it up in a few days in Las Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And something you need to know, we're really, I'm really, really proud of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started a teacher training program for new teachers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you heard the rumor, it is true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's called Uplift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it will start early next year, a studio hopefully near you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, in fact, in the next couple of weeks,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be taking the applications from the people who want to license and teach the program.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this fall, I'll be training them how to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll be working alongside them to make sure that it is done the way I know it will work and change your life and change the lives of people you teach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you should go to xll.co-uws if you would like to be a student.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is for first-time teachers or partially trained teachers, or maybe people want to bridge into classical and they want it to be more of an in-person experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, xxll.co-u-w-s, and then for those of you who are already conference of a train and you want a more of a master's program, you can go watch the recent Elevate Live Cunate Call I did at lesslylogan.co-sush-elevate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's ls-ly-y-logan.co-sush-elevate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do many class and so to turn the questions with a bunch of grads on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are filling 2020 as we speak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And only people who graduate elevate can actually teach a lift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you are like, oh my god, how did my application?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you won't even find out until you have done a elevate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you guys, we're not going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bouncebody sponsored our tour, so we are so excited because we have to take in the trilogy equipment everywhere, and we're spending a lot of time within the rest of this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you more about that in a second, but thank you to Bouncebody for sponsoring our summer tour, and they are also sponsoring our winter tour this year, which we will announce next month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So make sure that you're on our email list so you don't miss out because literally on the summer tour, several cities sold out in one day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In one day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you get on the wait list?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to opc.me slash events.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're new here, one of the ways you can actually support us is being an opc a member.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if that's more of a commitment that you want to make, when you buy our amazing flashcards at opc.me slash flashcards, and the only do support us in this podcast, which you're also supporting then of that as PCA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just so you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just wanted to say before I move on, becoming a member, you can start with a trial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a 40 day trial for 40 bucks and you know, it's a pretty amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You pick the trial based on the equipment you have access to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then you get to come hang in this awesome community we have with just revamped our community page and it's the whole, you know, it's really cool and just awesome people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not only that, you can do it anywhere you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anywhere you are at any level with whatever you got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the workout that works for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you guys, we're gonna be home for a bit and then we're going to be in Cambodia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot join us this year in Cambodia, but you can certainly join us next year by getting on our weight list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will open up our early bird's special in January.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you hear a dog snoring in the background, her name is Darla, we cannot stop this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just gonna keep going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we head to Cambodia, we're actually driving to Sacramento.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm teaching and we'll have a booth at the Sacramento POT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the Bouncebody 50th year celebration, the ultimate, the penultimate, what do you call it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, they've been celebrating all year long at all the different POTs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the body's centennial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but anyways, it's at the headquarter area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, I'll be at the POT India.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am at all the 50th Anniversary POTs, basically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be at 50 years celebration is called a golden Jubilee or a golden anniversary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Jubilee?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they can either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they could have done a Jubilee instead of a lap or party anyways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want information about the Sacramento POT or what I'm doing in Goa, India, which by the way,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks stunning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I really want to say yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said yes because it's going to be at this stunning resort at the beach and go up and there's a bunch of Americans were also going because like I wanted to take a workshop from you and I've always wanted to go to India and I'm like, well, see you there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So xxll.co slash pot will get your information on both Sacramento and go up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea how to get you information, but I am going to teach in China this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just outside of Shanghai.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't even know how I'm getting there yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at the time of this recording, but we're figuring it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring it out, everyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, here's what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am doing a lot of traveling with and with that Brad this year, because next year, I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because next year, a focus only on a lift, elevate our pores.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's quite an exciting time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I haven't said yes to anything for next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're recording this in the summer, which is kind of insane, because usually I'm already booked out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we got, because we're saying, not yes, it's insane, not yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not yet, not yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, all right, we gotta get into this episode, but before that, Brad, what is the awareness of our bringing people's attention to today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so as you know, we switched to charity of the week instead of questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So today we are doing something slightly different and we're going to encourage you to seek out local businesses in your community to celebrate national black business month.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this month instead of highlighting just one charity where we're we're focused on the whole month to go out and support your local black owned businesses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why back in 1921 in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was one of the homes to the wealthiest black communities in the country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Greenwood District known as Black Wall Street.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a span of about 15 years, it had built up hundreds of black owned businesses, grocers, theaters, hotels, doctors offices, over a thousand homes, and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over a two-day period, white mobs, some of them literally deputize by the city, burn more than 35 city blocks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They burn them to the ground, and as many 300 people died, roughly 10,000 were left homeless, and not a single person was ever prosecuted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For decades, it barely appeared in the history books, and Greenwood residents rebuilt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but the community never got back to where it fully was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Survivors were never compensated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we talk about supportive black on businesses today, it's not just a nice idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's part of rebuilding something that was deliberately destroyed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy because I didn't learn about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard about this around 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I started to hear about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, there was TV shows that were focused on this in the super hero world, and I started watching it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, wow, this is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did I never hear about this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I started to really learn more about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just tragic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't it if a hurricane does this we're an uproar if the government doesn't go in fast enough and fix things right, but this was deliberately done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not this is not this is not this is the way the race is hate race is something and then no one went in and helped any these people and so yet again a group of people were set back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: even further.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not only do we not do restitution after the slaves, but after slavery, when they finally do get a head, well, that's burning to the ground and create even more problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just really fucking frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there is a, you know, if how do you go support local black on businesses in your community?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a great resource that you can use that is by black dot U S and B Y.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that is b-y-b-l-a-c-k.us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a national directory built by the US Black Chamber of Commerce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's searchable by location and even has curated city guides.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So wherever you're listening from, you can find black owned businesses near you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're local to us in Las Vegas, check out the Greater Las Vegas Black Chamber of Commerce at g-l-v-b-c-c.org.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also the Henderson Black Chamber of Commerce, or the local directory, called Black Biz Connect Las Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that came up just when we're doing this search.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can also figure that out by putting your city in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a great thing to do if you wanted to speak here's the y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Weak about with our dollars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, every single day, there are things that we have to do for these fucking billionaires because we can't get away from it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, it can do this and it can make small changes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We recently, the time recording this, we had donated $800 to the Nevada SPCA, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, I know it's only $800 and that is a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, thank you so much, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's from your flashcards for Q4 or two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, oh, can I find out what does that do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were able to show me what $800 can do, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It can feed 114 shelter animals for one week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you take your dollars and you put them locally into a locally owned business, you are making major impacts that you, the ripple effects are things you can't even understand
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[SPEAKER_01]: You direct that to being a black owned business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are actually helping, even like it's just something that's really, really amazing because that means family members and friends of that business owner are seen that they can be successful in entrepreneurship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you can't see things happening in your life, it's really hard to be until you see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just think it's important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a great way to honor this month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so just put your city in and put black owned businesses and you'll get a list, I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thanks for supporting your local Black on businesses and if you have any Black owned businesses or actually any charities at all that you suggest that we do some research on and then bring to the pod, text us at 310 9055534 310 9055534.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stick around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Tara Khanahan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tara is a traditional Irish fiddle player from
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she said more than 40 years of experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I think she's such as been teaching for 40 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she doesn't look at that old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think she could be on things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's in her 60s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless, she's very, very clearly an expert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the creator and host of the award-winning podcast in tune with tradition, perspectives on session etiquette and Irish traditional music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a very niche pod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a niche in a niche.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It breaks down the unspoken cultural rules of Irish music sessions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She also teaches adults and leads private immersion experiences in Ireland for musicians wanting to dive deeper on session culture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Diagnote, she actually is a tour coming up in September 26th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So next month, so go to sessionedicate.com slash retreat for detail sessionedicate.com slash retreat for details.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty sure she said it's happening in Ireland.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and also by the way, if you don't even know what Irish music is and session and I can't you don't have to like what is this podcast episode about I don't know because actually everything that we discussed about that it can be applied to be in a beginner of anything yeah so I really really like it yeah yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, well, I'll just go first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think we can all understand like when you're a beginner, there can be a performance anxiety of sort.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not sure if you're like wanting to be a nitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, an example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrea made it and her husband and Brad and I went to a knitting store because Andrea made it with your friend of ours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pies and instructor is a nitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a neat story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a whole table of all these knitters and there's hanging out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Andreas, like, hey, we can just go talk to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, I don't, can we allow to go talk to them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the first thing that someone someone says, are you knit worthy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you knit worthy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I was a spiring nitter, I can tell you right now that I didn't feel welcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt anxiety, but the other people don't let our get to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can sit down here, but I didn't know the etiquette of walking into a knit place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you are, beginner, there is a anxiety about how do I do it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the etiquette?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I have enough skills to be here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I allowed to sit here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I sit there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she explained that you're scared because you just don't know how to enter the space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's really important to acknowledge it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we're a beginner, if things were allowed to have some fear, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just natural.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like getting on stage the first time you know, the stage you're, you know, throw it as parched.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're completely freaking out inside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just takes practice, you know, the more you do it, the less you're in that headspace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you play jazz, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You play jazz.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I played jazz.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's such, like there's times when people get together to just play and then there's times like people can join in, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so I'm going to talk a little bit more about that when, you know, when I'm when you share that you're okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what I'm what I really loved about this conversation, but yes, you know, in the in the jazz world, it's called a jam session, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, here musicians, let's get together in jam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I generally hate a jam session when it's not jazz music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, it was interesting to hear her talk about the different levels of learning and the different layers of, you know, how people interact in a jam session because when I was younger, when I was studying jazz and I was performing, I play the trombone for all of you who don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I started playing in fourth grade and I went all the way through college studying very intentionally on the trombone and I was really good at the time really really good and I you know, I wasn't I wasn't ever recording on the trombone because what I was really passionate about was playing the base and singing so even though I was really good on the trombone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that wasn't really where my heart was at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was playing it in college, yeah, you'd get together with people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they were not that good on their instrument, or they hadn't had a lot of experience playing with other people in a space where you're listening to other people,
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[SPEAKER_00]: then you don't know what to do and they actually, this is a perfect parallel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've been in a conversation where someone only talks about themselves, the whole fucking time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they never ask a reciprocating question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, musicians can do that, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they can just take over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: To wrap up my point, like what I love to say, she says, once we want to learn the rules and etiquette, the anxiety can disappear, because you know what the rules are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of times some of us are afraid to be beginners, and then we don't ever get to figure what the rules are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we never feel like we can be a beginner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you know what the rules are, then you know where you can play, right?
18:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in a non-musical example, I get people who want to be on this podcast all the time, like we should do a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: may pitch me.
18:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the ball.
18:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So I love that confidence.
18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I have 10 episodes.
18:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I have 700.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate the invite, but that's not a mutual thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm bringing so much more expertise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to have the conversation I want to have with 700 episodes with their 10 and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: or maybe they maybe they should have a hole in the fall and they could back that up with maybe they're up and coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But really, they actually know offensive them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they are below, but they actually need to go get experience with other people with 10 episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Coming over here is not really going to be helpful for them because it's going to be, they don't really, you know, you have to have experience to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like in Pilates, I absolutely love taking sessions from people who've been teaching four decades, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not going to, oh, you want to do a
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jay, Sandy, should we trade?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not that I can't teach them something, but really it's not an equal exchange of information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this role is straight into one of the things what I loved about the conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was talking about the etiquette of joining sessions as a newbie or a beginner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She said it's a very gentle process where you're kind of coming into it in a gentle way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the anxiety of it and the you have to be a self aware enough to know that you are easing your way in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, the easy parallel is growing up in a large family where I had lots of aunts and uncles and thinking about Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas dinner or something where everyone came over and they had the kids table and they had the adults.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the kids table, the conversation was generally about kids stuff, but I always ended up gravitating towards the adult table.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I would get there, I had nothing to contribute to the conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I was 12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What am I?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know anything about anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but I'm listening to the adults talk about adult things, which I didn't even know what they were talking about, didn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, what I was too, I didn't have anything to contribute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't say anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I was mentioning earlier, sometimes people can be in a conversation where they, they 100% dominate the conversation and it doesn't, it's not a conversation is one sided alternatively.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other side of that is never contributing to a conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you know, and not having the confidence to speak up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people never get past that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even when even like imagine if I was 12, then 15, then 18, and I'm still sitting in the adult table, but I'm not talking to I'm not participating in the conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they're taking it all in, but why am I not contributing back?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is two sides of the of the fence there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's two extremes and there's allowing yourself to be an observer because you're new to that table.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at some point, you actually have to participate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think what happens is there has to be someone at that table who also invites you in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, there's the knitting table we started with that woman who's are you knit where the I was, I don't think so, I don't think I even apply her, but then there was something else comes to down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't let her scare you, right?
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's, there's needs to be someone who is aware of all the dynamics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who can be the guide, and so then you attach yourself to the guide and you allow the guide to show you what's going, what's the appropriate behavior here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll watch you do it again.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, I'm obsessed.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm obsessed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much nuance to the pit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it, so much dynamics, everything, everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can apply science of learning to the pit, all these different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that melking plus her soul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her character just speaks to my heart, but she's
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[SPEAKER_01]: no one high five sir because that's not the etiquette.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not what you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your first day, baby, we're in their third hour, right?
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And so she said, oh, okay, she'll sit down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's trying to observe what the behavior is and trying to learn how to fit in.
22:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And it takes time, you're going to get it wrong.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing, you are going to fuck up at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are going to think that you're invited in and you're doing the right thing.
22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But actually, they changed the rules last week and they moved it half an hour.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that doesn't make you a bad person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think, you know, thinking back to etiquette of joining a session as a new beer beginner, it is valuable to sit at the kids table when you're a kid so that you can have conversations with your peers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you learned something from that so that when you do move to the adult's table, you have some understanding of just how conversation works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in the same way, it's good to draw the kids table because you
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you can recognize that you were the kid's table and now you're over at the adult's table, so you can spot who the guide is over there.
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think it's good to have the experiences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's definitely how it works in with jazz and jamming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's important to work with people who are, well, I mean, you talked about this specifically with Tara, the people who are where you once were, people who are where you're at now, and the people who are where you want to be,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, so that you can be a guide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can have fun with your peers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can learn from someone who is where you want to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so for example, here in Las Vegas, I once a week I go to a local bar that they host a jam night and it's a jazz jam night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they encourage people to sit in, bring your instrument, come play, we'll always welcome you in, you can always play,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, at play for a tune or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then generally what they'll do is they'll let you name the tune so that you have the confidence, okay, I know this song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and then you basically, they all know all the songs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are pro musicians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're absolutely incredibly well versed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they don't know the song, they can figure out the song in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're amazing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's it's actually really intimidating because especially if you're a newbie playing with a crew like that those guys are the pros right and so it you know, it's great experience, but it's also like you're not really in their circle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do love how they approach that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that because they're actually saying, okay, you've been sitting here long enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can see that you're a jammer with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're you're tip in your head to the beat or your foot to the beat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You pick the song.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're allowing you to have confidence in what you're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they get to invite you in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, then you never have to again, or you get to keep coming, you, and then you broke the seal makes me give like Dobbie Doss as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember when Dobbie Doss played at the horse trailer hideout, he noticed you were whistling and then he's like, do you know the song he invited you in?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you have done karaoke and you've been, you've been in bands and you've toured, you know, as a singer, the stage isn't scary you, but he does that with people all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And often they are not performers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, often they're not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is allowing them to pick a song that they can do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's just something for those of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all can take the application of etiquette and things like that too, everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have people I go to learn from because they challenge me.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: There are people I challenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's people that I challenge to challenge people, but we all have to be doing that otherwise, first of all, the people that I go to, they go to people like because if they are not learning further people, they're not going to be a good teacher for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we can all recognize where we are as the person who is the expert in one room, but when we were a beginner in this room and how can we make sure that we're we're moving along, but we're also moving other people along, we can't always be the guide at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to pass the torch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right on the money on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is it's important to set yourself up to be a guide for the next generation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come along.
26:21
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one other thing I wanted to mention about the conversation before I moved on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is about the skill of listening and responding to others in a musical concept, but also in a conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For example, I just did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I acknowledge what you said, and then I changed the topic, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I was in college?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know how I met this professor, but he said, hey, I want you to come audition for this class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just join the class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to audition for the class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, so I didn't even know what that meant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't give me anything to repair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just brought a bunch of music with me that I could play and he was, all right, cool, I want you to play this thing and I just played it and he was, okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm gonna play this on my guitar and I want you to play,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know along with me and then you know we did and then he's like I'm going to let you lead and then I'm going to play along with you and I was okay and and we did this half an hour audition right and afterwards he asked me a few questions and he invited me to join this class and literally this entire class was what he taught was the art of listening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and it wasn't what the class was even called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what it's called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was an unbelievable class and this this guy is one of the most astounding musicians I've ever met.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could hear an entire song and then write the song down afterwards in musical notation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had that's a crazy memory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was perfect memory and perfect pitch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could listen to a song and understand exactly what was happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could like see it and write it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just what is the bond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's about completely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what he did in that class was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was so awkward because there was no music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no jam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't, you didn't have a rhythm that you were playing to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He took our class and he said, all right, today in class we've got a French horn, two guitars a bass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a guy playing the Tim Balay, which is a weird drum that is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got a trombone player and there's a guitar player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So go!
28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And we, what do you mean go?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's someone you can start playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you feel inspired by what they're playing and what you'd play off of what they're playing, and then other people are gonna jump in and they're gonna play and then you're gonna play and together it will turn into something.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're what the hell?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And every day for a whole semester?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not every day, it was once or twice a week, I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it became one of my favorite classes to go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he told us, you never allowed to record this class.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This class is not about turning this into a song, that's not what this is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What we're doing here is we're listening to each other and we're responding based on what we're listening and it was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unbelievable because it really helped me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, based on the science of learning, that's exactly what you're supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just throw people in and then they have to start swimming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like, if you don't, you just start drowning, like you see, so somebody feels the pressure enough to go, fuck it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And then other people are like, well, I don't want them to be alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So jump in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what happens is you start taking the knowledge you have, the skill sets and you sort of applying it to your long-term memory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It comes out of short-term it moves into long-term because you're forced to hit recall because you're
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[SPEAKER_01]: not actually reading any music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you read music, you can leave that stuff in short term memory and let it go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It switches to long term because you're forced to listen and apply something that you've learned that could fit.
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fucking brilliant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, people have told me over the years, grab when you're, when we're in a conversation and feel like you're really listening to me.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I genuinely attribute that to this class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say you definitely did that better than I do, and every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because because I had to, I learned how to do that in the class and now it's just part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so anyway, just just the art of listening and like how do you listen and how do you participate in a group like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you encourage and respond?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes you're taking the lead, sometimes you're not taking the lead, you know, all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this whole thing, you can apply to anything you want to do because everything is with
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, we have to wrap that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
30:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I got really excited about this episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stick around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back.
30:21
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about those B at action items.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So finally, let's talk about those B at action items.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Tara Kadahan?
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[SPEAKER_00]: she emphasized that time and consistency are the only true replacements for convenience in the learning process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
30:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, time and consistency are the only true places for convenience in the learning process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that actually mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you talk about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When we say convenience in the learning process,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you've got to make learning easier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to not only do it for some time, but also consistently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for example, I'm doing the Uplift Beta Program right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's one person who at the time of 30 days has had halfway to 100 hours already, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is time and consistency, like they're picking up different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Versus some people only have nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, not saying ones better than the other, actually, they're observing different things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you are only picking up something one hour, once a week,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you are going to have a harder time as the learning continues because you're having to restart and re-remember everything once a week versus if you were to even do 15 minutes every single day, it might even be the same amount of time from the one time a week to the seven times week, but because you have the consistency of picking it up, you're actually getting you're having more convenience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she specifically said you don't build it up in one go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You build it up every single day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's more valuable to have 10 to 15 minutes a day than it is to do an hour once a week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same, by the way guys, this applies to everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not write one newsletter at a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I write all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not do one podcast at a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do several because the setup, the getting ready, all that stuff, it allows you, it's just better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you just be more consistent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You put it all together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Pilates and music, it's, it's so much muscle memory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and you can't cram muscle memory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of learning to take time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: she was equating it to brushing your teeth you know you do it you know twice a day forever you've been doing forever so like it gets to the point where it's wrote you know anything thinking about anymore because you've done so many times you know how to do it without actually processing it you can think about something else that while you're doing that she said how do you do this how do you how do you make sure that you get your 10 to 15 minutes a day and she said keep your instrument in easy reach make it visible yeah whatever your instrument is yeah I love that what about you she said pick the thing that fills your cup and go for it
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, just in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick the thing that fills your cup and do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the thing that makes you really gives you so much joy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it fills your cup.
32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is really important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times, a lot of us are focused on the thing we don't do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, why can't I get this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are people who can get that for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was coaching someone today at a proper place and just not good at tech, but I don't have an online business, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm listening to her whole, she's working on and she's doing all the right things according to all the right coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it comes out she's nine clients and I was like, oh, you don't need to be online for these nine clients for your online business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could just tell 27 people what you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then ask him to refer you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I bet you'll get nine people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the worst you get three, yes, those three people to refer you three people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you do not need to pick the thing that you're not good at to make this business work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to pick the thing that you're good at and make this business work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it goes applies to everything.
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