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INTERVIEW: Earthquake Talks Comedy, Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, Kym Whitley, Netflix Special, Politics + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is Steve j n V. Charlamagne the guy. We
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  Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in.
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  Speaker 1: The building, Le comedian Earthquake.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome brother, Thank you, Thank you, brothers. It's always an
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  Speaker 3: honor to be on this show.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I look forward to it. It's always a highlight when
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  Speaker 3: I come next with you, brothers.
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  Speaker 4: Man, happy to have you here. How are you feeling, man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm blessed.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Life is good. Uh, things are good, careers popping. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm good man, I'm real good.
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  Speaker 5: You know your name came up when recently when Kat
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  Speaker 5: Williams did his interview with Shannon Shark. Yeah, well, I
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  Speaker 5: want to talk about just that conversation period. What is
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  Speaker 5: that conversation done for for for.
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  Speaker 3: Black comedy comedy? I don't think anything, because it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: no jokes in it. Understand I'm in the joke telling business,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it didn't do anything
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  Speaker 3: I think for comedy personally speaking. And man, him was cool,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, I didn't. I didn't know where that
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  Speaker 3: came from. Certain thing he said about me, half was true,
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  Speaker 3: half was you know, it was a lie, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but to each his own. I don't you know, man,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even get into that part of it, because see,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a type of person. If I have a problem
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  Speaker 3: with you, Charla Mane, I'm gonna call you and man
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  Speaker 3: the man and we even gonna talk it out. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna duke it out, but we're gonna handle it, man
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  Speaker 3: to man. I don't talk behind people back. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what social media is. If you go into a platform
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  Speaker 3: and talk about a person without you addressing them yourself,
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  Speaker 3: when you have opportunities to get in contact and let
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  Speaker 3: them let it be known. So you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: get into that, you know what I mean. I let
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  Speaker 3: him believe what you need to believe.
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  Speaker 5: The reason I asked about what it did for black
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  Speaker 5: comedy because I started seeing people having conversations about black
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  Speaker 5: comedy and black comedians that I don't think they were
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  Speaker 5: having before, such as I mean, like yourself or the
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  Speaker 5: some Moors like it was just the whole death Comedy
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  Speaker 5: jam era. It's like a whole great era of comedy, BT,
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  Speaker 5: comic vith all of that stuff we grew up on.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of feel like people had kind of not
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  Speaker 5: been discussing. But for whatever reason, that interview made everybody
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  Speaker 5: start pulling up old clips and having the conversations again.
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  Speaker 3: But it didn't move the needle to help us progress
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  Speaker 3: as black comedians in the profession.
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  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, So you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: It might do a little better for the people that
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  Speaker 3: he talked for ticket sales, such as hisself, but that
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  Speaker 3: levels back out, you know what I mean. But you
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  Speaker 3: know it didn't help us as the juntas the totality
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  Speaker 3: of us getting father getting through this door, of us
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  Speaker 3: being appreciated for what we do unless you go onto
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  Speaker 3: mainstream comedy clubs, us as black comedians, if we just
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  Speaker 3: such as myself, pray k and just talk to my
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  Speaker 3: constituous takes a long time to get through that and
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  Speaker 3: help anything with that.
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  Speaker 5: They never said nobody gets there.
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  Speaker 4: Earth quake not funny.
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  Speaker 1: You definitely said that, Yes, yeah, And I appreciate that
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  Speaker 1: because it's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I was gonna ask, you know, you said you
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  Speaker 2: were cool or you thought you were cool. Now do
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  Speaker 2: you people are saying he did that to sell tickets.
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  Speaker 2: Some people said he was just venting, or some people
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  Speaker 2: it was just like it was just Allie just to
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  Speaker 2: create the controversy rounding and you know what what it
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  Speaker 2: just it's just weird. It just feel like it just
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  Speaker 2: came out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what is the motivation on it
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  Speaker 1: on it. I of been in this business for thirty years.
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  Speaker 3: We as comedians have never did that type of thing
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  Speaker 3: ever before.
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  Speaker 1: We're not rappers. We don't have beefs.
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  Speaker 3: You have a disagreement with a comic, they usually we
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  Speaker 3: take it with the individual and handle it as such
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  Speaker 3: outside of just you know, doing that thing was the
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  Speaker 3: first time ever seeing it done. But we're on a
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  Speaker 3: new age now, you know what I mean, It's a
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  Speaker 3: different nation. And I don't know what the motivation of
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  Speaker 3: the brother is. I when I first ran into Caddy,
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  Speaker 3: he was the most phenomenal doing things that have never
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  Speaker 3: been done in here. He was selling out Madison Square
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  Speaker 3: Garden type arenas on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, and that was
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  Speaker 3: never I was coming into Oakland.
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  Speaker 1: They was like, you know, cat gonna be here. I said,
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  Speaker 1: what I just got here?
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  Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? He at this Friday? No,
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  Speaker 3: he Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday with the Warriors player. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my God. And then you know his acting skills
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  Speaker 3: was on top because he was on Hill Street Blues
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  Speaker 3: doing the things. So I have always admired you know,
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  Speaker 3: his his his work and what it is. But see,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I don't get into all that because I'm in
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  Speaker 3: the joke telling business, and as long as we talking
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  Speaker 3: about jokes, I do only that's the only thing that
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  Speaker 3: I am into.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't in the pimp game. I ain't in the
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  Speaker 1: drug game, ain't and then none of that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm into the joke. So if you have anything to
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  Speaker 3: say to me or anything to see me, it should
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  Speaker 3: be right there in that category because that's the only
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  Speaker 3: thing that I am involved in the public platf form
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 1: So the rest of that ship he can keep.
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  Speaker 4: Why he said you can't read, Where did that come from?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you y'all letting terresta rut there. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: it's a lie because I couldn't. I used to be
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  Speaker 3: a w b let radio radio, and everybody in radio
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  Speaker 3: wants to be like y'all and be syndicated. But if
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  Speaker 3: you're not syndicated and you just got one goddamn station,
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  Speaker 3: the only way you get some money off live.
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  Speaker 1: Reads in traffic and the rest of them. So it
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  Speaker 1: came to that and another thing.
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  Speaker 3: Ninth grade, I was picked to go to Georgetown and
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  Speaker 3: the upper Bound program. The only reason I didn't make
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  Speaker 3: open Brown program is when they took me on the tour.
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  Speaker 3: They let me taste a fresh doughnut for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: And I ate it. I'm like, oh my god, fresh
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  Speaker 1: wheeze oie juice.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, you can have all these that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I said, y'all keep on walking Around'm gonna stay right
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  Speaker 3: here of these donuts because I'm used to eating the
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  Speaker 3: Hostess donuts at the little past but I never had
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  Speaker 3: like a Dunken one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, this is delicious. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 3: Upper Bound program to be picked out of Georgetown to
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  Speaker 3: go to Georgetown in the ninth grade.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Also in the military as an air traffic controller, could
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  Speaker 3: have been air cock controller. But I wanted to get
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  Speaker 3: off my mother house. I said, what job can I
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  Speaker 3: leave today? To leave her houses? You can be a
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  Speaker 3: traffic troller. You can come back in six months and leave.
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  Speaker 3: I said, now I need to leave today. What you
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  Speaker 3: got they said, loaded nuclear weapons?
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  Speaker 1: I said, I take it used the load nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I dropped while I'm trying to see two live
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  Speaker 3: crew man, no real talk boxed down air force face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: trying to see two live crew. When when Luke first
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  Speaker 3: came out, we dropped that because you have to change
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  Speaker 3: the ordinance, the disguise from the rush.
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  Speaker 1: You dropped the bombs. He can get out to the club.
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  Speaker 3: No. I told him, Mommy, I wanted to go see
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  Speaker 3: Luke Friday. They put me on the schedule. I had
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  Speaker 3: already said I'm not going. So they say, go out there,
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  Speaker 3: change the ordinance and then you can leave. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing this for ten years. I'm like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: we don't need this. I put it up and we
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  Speaker 3: tell the moves, the racket and everything. We ain't put
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  Speaker 3: all the grease fitting the can down.
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  Speaker 1: Hit boom, everybody ran. I said, what y'all running for
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  Speaker 1: a nuke?
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  Speaker 3: I said, you hit the word I kiss somebody here.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to me, mate. This is God, hon the truth.
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  Speaker 3: God take my talent from everything on. My name is
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: in the Pentagon under broken arrow. You can understand what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, why they call you broken that?
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  Speaker 3: That's what happened when you drop a nuke on the
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  Speaker 3: in the country, it's called it broken arrow. When it's
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  Speaker 3: a new on your own friendly soul and everything is
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  Speaker 3: an accident, that's called broke right now if you're not well, no, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's just you know, I told them, you understand. I'm
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  Speaker 3: in Boxtair, Louise on that street, Port Louisiana. This one
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  Speaker 3: luke was at the heightest is thing. You had one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty bad chicks. I said, I'm going, and
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  Speaker 3: they sent me out here the change the ordinance.
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  Speaker 1: On the plane. So they brung it on itself.
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  Speaker 4: But the new clearly didn't go off.
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  Speaker 3: No, nuclear weapons are some of the most safest ordinances
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  Speaker 3: that you got. Conventionals are more different because they got
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  Speaker 3: to drop at a certain height and then they hit.
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  Speaker 1: The uh safe thing safe more it it's the most safety.
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  Speaker 3: But everybody ran and then no, we was on the
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  Speaker 3: flight line. We was on the flight line on the
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  Speaker 3: Bee fifty two, and you put it in the bomb
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  Speaker 3: bay to change it out and it came down hit
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  Speaker 3: the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Boom.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody ran. I was like, what y'all running for? And
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: then they came and got me. Basic commander came and
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: then they took us to the UH to the hospital
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  Speaker 3: to do drug tests and everything to see if we high.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't find nothing but in competence in my blood.
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  Speaker 3: And then they put me on the snack bar. They
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  Speaker 3: don't let me touch no more more nukes, no more
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  Speaker 3: planes or nothing. And people were like, A you stuck,
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  Speaker 3: I said, man, and I don't care. E five get
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  Speaker 3: the same amount of money as loading bombs as an
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  Speaker 3: E five that passed out coffee.
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  Speaker 1: So the check ain't changed, ain't hurt my feelings. That
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  Speaker 1: was the concert.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't go because I had to.
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  Speaker 1: Go to the hospital and get debrief and everything.
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  Speaker 3: And for three days, what they holding for three days
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  Speaker 3: they took up you got a checklist.
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  Speaker 1: See I was small enough.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: I started checking all the things on the checklist, so
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  Speaker 3: I said, I did all myself, So it had to
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: be something wrong with the with the rack and everything else.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the only way I was covering myself without
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  Speaker 3: getting caught Marshall or Auticle fifteen for getting put out.
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: But I sat underneath to Taro and all I thought
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  Speaker 3: is I ain't gonna get to see none of these
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  Speaker 3: house and I've been waiting, And that's how it came
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  Speaker 3: and it hit boom and it ran off.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, A lot of people are gonna say, man,
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  Speaker 5: cat might have been right, man, you might have had
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  Speaker 5: to read something.
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  Speaker 3: No, that was motherfucker bought up. When Luke was hot, man,
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  Speaker 3: he was on field Donio one of them things showing
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  Speaker 3: them just shaking in everything, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: they finally gonna do a concert that one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty and Shreetport was a small town. Bowser City was
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: a small town in that way, and we had no
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: black women that looked that good in my in my eyesight.
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  Speaker 3: So I was looking forward to it, and I told
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  Speaker 3: him I wasn't going. So they put us out there.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to uh Sergeant Anderson who called me about
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: two weeks ago.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: He was also on the team when we dropped.
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  Speaker 5: The new Well listen, you know you got to prove
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: things to the internet. So go ahead read that read
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: that's a live re read out loud.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Cat Whim is a liar too. The play I want
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: to do I want to ask you about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one thing that's been coming up recently is
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: comedians stealing jokes. True now, it seems like that would
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: seem kind of something that's normal because you know, if
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: you're talking about it car or you're talking about black
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: versus white, it seems like a lot of it.
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  Speaker 1: So has that happened to you?
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  Speaker 3: I've been robbed more than any comedian on earth I have.
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  Speaker 3: I have friends that have taken my jokes. I have
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: friends that have called me and told me they have
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  Speaker 3: taken my jokes. I write another one.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. This is what I's thin
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  Speaker 1: on to do. It happens.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I do not look at other comedians perform,
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: because I don't physically write. I mentally write. So I
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: don't want to be contaminated with the thought. You could
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: sit here and see another comedian tell a joke and
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  Speaker 3: subconsciously does it be into you.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Then you could sit here and.
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  Speaker 3: Get on stage and riff and come up with and
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: think you came up with it, but you previously saw
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: somebody else do it.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: That's what happened.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: Sometimes we all it's only certain many subjects that is discovered.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: This is your version of oj Trout, this is your
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: version of Trump, this is your version of Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: So the shit happens me my I just continue, you know,
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: I just replenish as they diminish, and I just keep
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  Speaker 3: on going with it. And the way I keep myself
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  Speaker 3: from even for that ever happening to me. I don't
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: watch other comedians I've heard.
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  Speaker 5: I've heard people say that I found that video with
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: a Bernie Mac very interesting because Bernie Mack was like,
• 12:20
  Speaker 5: people are going to take your jokes. Don't say your
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: jokes around other comedians, especially the younger ones when the
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: veterans are.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Around, well veteran and the rest of them.
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  Speaker 3: But see, it's beautiful with me is and I'm blessed
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  Speaker 3: that I don't have to go to a club to
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: work a joke out.
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  Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: I can, I can mentally see this is gonna work,
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  Speaker 3: and I can I can apply it to my regular
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: show as I'm doing it, take one out, put a
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: new one there, and continue to make the rotation go.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: Certain comedians don't have that process. They have to actually
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: write it down and then try it on the stage.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: And then you have comedians.
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: In the back, Oh, I like that, and then they'll
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: give you the thought pattern. They would give you their
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: version of that thought pattern. This is what I would
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: have said, if I thought of that, you know that's
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: still in two. So you know they sit there, but
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: you just it's occupational hazard.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't got to.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: Work yourself out in a comedy club. So has you
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: ever have you ever tried a joke and it didn't work?
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  Speaker 2: Because I see every it seems like comedians do that,
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  Speaker 2: Like they'll go to a communiant spot at two in
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  Speaker 2: the morning, go for ten minutes to see if Joe
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  Speaker 2: working and keep it moving.
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  Speaker 3: So you don't do that. No, ill work it out,
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  Speaker 3: and I work it out in my set. But see
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: I don't dolongated jokes, so I'm quicker with it.
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  Speaker 1: So I have to come up with more.
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  Speaker 4: Radio in you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to be quick because it got to
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: be there in there. You don't have that long. You
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: got to get it, get it, get it. So if
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: that don't work, I'm already to the next one. And
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: what made you give a radio? The reason I gave
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: up radio wasn't no way of being like y'all. I
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: wanted to be syndicated. And when I first got into
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: the business to come to New York, Steve Harvey in
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  Speaker 3: the morning, right quake.
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  Speaker 1: In the evening. You know, what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be syndicated the whole way because that's
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  Speaker 3: what I wanted.
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  Speaker 1: And then they got bought out. And once they got bought.
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  Speaker 3: Out, you know, I went to the president and was like, hey, man,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: what's up with me, you know, with my show? And
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: they had no aspirations for me being syndicated. I said,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: I come to New York just to be on the
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  Speaker 3: radio at one station. So that was the end of that.
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  Speaker 3: I said, well, I'm going back to Los Angeles, and
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: that's what it came. It balled down to it. I
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: really syndication is what I've wanted, and once that was
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: no longer obtainable of being there, it was time to
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: move on. And then, you know, the business is you
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: can do if you can get one person that can
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  Speaker 3: work the board and be the air personality at the
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: same time, you can go in and kick the air
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: personality to the side because I wasn't working the board
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: or nothing, you know what I mean. So that's how
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: they worked out creative outlet for you very much. So,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have my own radio show now. We're
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: number one on Serious XM's a Quake's House on Kevin
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  Speaker 3: Harston Lafo Love Radio. So we we're in our sixth
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: season there, so I'm still in the radio and we
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: don't do nothing but tell jokes. Yeah Quake's House. So
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: what we did was, uh, it's like the view with comics.
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  Speaker 3: We just sit around and do topics and let the
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: comics riff.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: Have comedy always been this competitive, at least behind the scenes.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Now, I mean, as you have aspiration, people hate on it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: But comedy speaks for itself.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: See, you can step on that stage and have all
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: the accolades you want. That gives you the first five minutes,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: but after that you gotta be funny. So I don't
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: care if you got a TV show or not. If
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: this dude don't have no TV show and he fun
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: he gonna blow you off the stage. So the competitiveness
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: of it is being funny, and you know that's it
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: speaks for itself.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: What's the science of comedy? Man?
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: And the reason I ask you particularly because people always
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: say you are most comedians' favorite comedians, So it's to me,
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: it's not just about being funny, because if you're that's
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: funny right in a classroom, off on the radio, But
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: to hit that stage, it don't translate.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: And that's the key word I was gonna say. It
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: has to translate.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: You have to make people do something they can't make
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: theyself do and just laugh and relate to them from
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: no matter what the background. And it must be sophisticated
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: enough that it's not a knock knock joke, but not
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: too complicated that you alienate the audience.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So that's the sweet spot of it, you know what
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: And me personally, I'm allergic to the quiet, So I
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: have to keep going raptifire, you know. And I would
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: hate to be like some comedians that write along joke
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: and then have a punchline at the end, because my
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: fear of it is post they don't get it, then.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: You're losing the audience, you know what I mean.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: But if you raptify quick with quick ones, job ones
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: ain't going. It's the way of success and that's the
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: key of it being relatable.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: You think the d m V area gets the credit
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: it deserves for being a comedy hotspot.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: No, we have something of the great Martin Uh, Dave Me,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Tommy Davis and Tony Woods.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's a lot of Donelle.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: No, you can't donell You know these are my we
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: we are in there. We're in DC. Is is a
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: hard market. It's compared to like New York. You they
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: don't give you nothing in DC. If you ain't funny,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: then they're gonna let you know right there and then
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: they're wait until you succeed before they give your accolades too.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Was your come up? Your come up with mostly East
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Coast or No? My come up was down in Atlanta.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: See once I got out the military because I left
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: that because the war broke out. I said, I don't
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: mind practicing for the war, y'all fight. I joined the military
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: to get out of my mother house. I could have
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: stayed in DC to get shot at fuck this, he's
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: fighting for rig then fight over some oil and I don't.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Even have a call.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: You better put somebody else out on him to send
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: an exon over in the Middle East.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: So how do you just get out? Hey? Man?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: My time was up, man, and I couldn't get out
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: what I wanted to because they have this stuff called
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: stop loss. Because in your contract, which is about two
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: hundred pages somewhere deep in there, if you a central employee,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: aessential job in the military, you have to stay in
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: wartime situation, and of course if you're.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: A bombloader, you that. So they wanted to send me overseas.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I said, man, I ain't going over there. So I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: did everything not to go over seas.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: So soon as they uplifted and took off the stop
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: loss let me out.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I turned on CNN.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Couldn't go back to d C because it wasn't no
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: feederal you know, I ain't want to go to illegal pharmaceuticals.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So I said, where I'm gonna go?
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I turned on CNN, and you know, they had one
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: of those stage the blessed places, you know, the surveys
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: for black men to prosper well, and the number.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: One city was Atlanta. I said, well, got that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Here I came and I grabbed four of my dudes
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: who was also in the military, and say let's go
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: to Atlanta. And I tried to get on stage there
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: to try it out. See, this is no epiphany for me.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: This is the this my career is making the best
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: decision that day. Try to tell a joke, and no
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: better decision has came. So I never had the other
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: things my other peers have they seen, they got these
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: great stories. No this, I tried this and then nothing
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: better came along, and I tried to get on stage
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: in Atlanta, and they had the Comedy Act theater there,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: but the owner would never let me get on.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Why I don't know. And then he.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Promised me one time that I was gonna be on,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you know, and I told all the women, I'm gonna
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: actually be on the stage, you know, because you tell
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: any black women in Atlanta back and then you're a comedian.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Have you been at the comedy act? Like now I'm
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: doing a little white club down in Florida, and alright,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: tell me when you get on comment get on comedy
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: act there. So he told me I was gonna be on.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: It open enough for Paul Mortey, told the chicks to.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Come see me. When I got there, he told me,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: now I don't had nobody.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't tell you that, so you know, I called
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: my mother and I was like, yo, this said I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: could be on and he can't. And she like, I
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: told you. You can't get mad at nobody that don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: let you ride your bike. You either get your own
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: bike or don't ride at all. I say, momahammed, get
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: my own club. Ain't got no money. I just moved
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: to Atlanta and said, well, then don't call me and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: complain about it. That's her, that's the love that my mother.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: She don't pick you up when you fall. She's like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: get up, get your crying, get your ass up. Stop
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: all that crime. And she she raised men. So that's
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: what I did. I owned up my own comedy club,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: and I got some investors and we opened up Uptown
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Comedy Corner.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: And now you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Found like you skipped a big step just now. Ever quick,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: how are you going from having no money?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Well, what I did was I hooked up with It
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: was this dude named Garry Abdu.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Opening, He had little one nighters, and I say, what
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: you need to do. We need to do a black
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: comedy club. So I took him to the Comedy act
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: and showed all the bad.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Business that they was doing.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: They had four hundred seats with two waitress, no food,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: no nothing, and they browned the same comedians every week.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: So it was Ted coppinha and Joe Tory and they'd
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: be there for the whole month. I said, if we
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: bring in, we go to a better place, bring some
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: food in, bringing with the class, we can do it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: So he went to go look for investors and I
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: went to go get investors.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I went to Dion all the athletes.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd be in Mexican. Yeah, boy, that's good out there.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Call us people up there, shoot me down. But Gary
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: went and found the number one plastic surgeon in Atlanta,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: and he gave us ten thousand dollars. Say if you
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: could flip this ten thousand, make some money, y'all and
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: come back. So we went down to Birmingham, and that's
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: how we discovered Ricky Smiley. And I seen Ricky all like,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: hey man, we're gonna do this. So it was me,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Ricky and him and we flipped the money in Birmingham
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: and brung it back and then he gave us a
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: half a million dollars to do the club.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: So you discovered Ricky I could just in the comedy club.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Well, we discovered Ricky wanted to be a comedian, but
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: at that time he was in church playing the organ.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And so I said, man, we're gonna open up a club.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And we sat around and sit there and me and
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: him Gary opened up. We got the club opening up,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: and then we opened up three more.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we gave you ten thousand. That was the
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: test to see if you were gonna come back with it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Y'all came back where you get five hundred dollars.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Gave us five hundred thousand and found a place, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: we called it Uptown, you know. And that's why we
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: cut uptown because they was downtown.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: They was down there and they're.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: The bad part of town, and so we called it
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: uptown and the rest of them was history another. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: what they did was they told all the black comedians,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: if you work in his club, you can't work in mine.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: So that's how it became great because I had to
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: do all the time myself because none of the black
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: comics would do it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And that's what it was. A blessing and a curse
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: at the same time.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Was Comic View a big break.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: My totality of my career or just at that point
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: at that time, Comicview, Comicview was my big break. That's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: where everybody and I could tell Quake fans when they
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: come say I want to put your air and your
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: mama name, you know, when I know that, and I
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: mean they was original Quake fans.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: How do you feel about them bringing back Comic View?
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Think it was great. I was there when they was
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: filming with Mike and keV. Any platform that allowed the
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: gendre to expread and give opportunities, I'm all for and
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I participated, and I have done that my whole career
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: with my radio show and me doing the club and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: everything else to expand it because it's a great ot form.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: It's you know, I don't there's ventually all that's going
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: on now is not what the job description of.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: We bring joy and sit here and make people laugh.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: What do you think happened to comedy at one time?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Because at one time you would see the comic view,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you see the deaf comedy Jim. It was all over TV.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It was fun, it was cultural, and then there was
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a time where it just went away. What do you
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: think that was? Now I'm seeing it's I think Netflix
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: is doing a good job of bringing comedians out that
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: people haven't seen or heard or given them specials. So
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: what do you think was that moment where comedy kind
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of died for a little.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's always been a vehicle for the others,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: now not for us. I think, you know, we haven't
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: invested in ourselves. Certain people get in the door and
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: they just don't give back, and they forget how they
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: got there, you know what I mean, and.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Provide opportunities for other people.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: And you know I mean, I'm glad cav grow comic
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: view back, and I wish somebody else bring death jam
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: back because these are the times that we're about to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: go into. We need that voice from a comedian to
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: put laughter to this sorrow that's coming.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think people want to take the risk.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Like you know, when I talk to a lot of
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: comedians that I admire, like the first thing they say, like, man,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: ain't going on TV with my shit because they still
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: want to talk the way they talk on stage. They
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: don't want to bring that to television and then risk
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: everybody on Twitter. Oh you cancel him and cancel her
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: taking a sponsorship.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: You know the cancel part of If you true into
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: your conviction and you're standing on that foundation, it should
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: be cool.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: When you just going out to be controversy for the
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: fact of controversial, I think it is explain your point,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: explain where you're coming from, and if it's true. I
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: personally feel, if it's route and within your belief then
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: something just like your jokes and you don't find an
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: audience that agree with you, and you're gonna find audience
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: that don't. That's what I feel the whole time of it,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: and the thought about it is you don't have to
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: go on stage executive producer. Give it up to the
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: next up and coming and give them a shine, you
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. You don't have to be put
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: your name on it. You can walk in there and
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: they say, he quake. You know, we want to do
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: three movies.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I ain't.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I want to do three movies, but I also want
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to do this comedy show. And I got this young
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: comedian that I want to host it off of. How
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: much is gonna call the what's the budget would you
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: give me for that? And I'll make it work on
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: that for the opportunity because there's so many different platforms
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: that you can give for the younger comedian to get on,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: get on too, and get on. And I think Kevis
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: did a great job on that too, because he was
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: putting on special with different people. There's certain people that
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: gives opportunities to other people, and certain people get through
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: the door and lock the motherfucker short and say, ain't
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: nobody else outside?
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Was it true? I mean, David, that for you two though.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did me my biggest break in my career.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Really, the Netflix Standard special.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really changed my life. Really? Oh yeah, I mean,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I mean he was the only one.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: All the rest of them say he's funny, great now,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: but he was the only one to bring in in
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and say, I this man is who it is and
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: stood on it and didn't you know it's easy to
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: put somebody on that you know don't have the possibility
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to be even with you or surpassed you.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: You know, but it's hard when you say this man is.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Equally as talling him or might even better, and I'm
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: gonna give it to him, like somebody else gave a
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: shot to me, and very few of them does that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: And Dave gave that to me. Matter of fact, where
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: go to do another one? Because of him? Next Flix's
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: came and gave me an offer for a new one
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: that I'm gonna do this year.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Why did that conversation with you and Dave?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Was it you had a greater you wanted to do
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: a Netflix special or he reached out to you? How
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: did that conversation happen?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: He called me, I really thought he was punking me.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a punk because yah, I thought
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: it was a prank. And they called me up and
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: they said, Dave Chappelle wants permission to get your number
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: because he wants to call you my agent call because
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: he wants to produce your special.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, and then hey man, I got you. We're
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: gonna do it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right, man, And it was the
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: rest of it was Stan Lathan, you know what I'm saying,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: and the whole team he has, you know, how's to
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: shoot it. And it changed my life and I knew
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: this was a career defining opportunity and I addressed it
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: as such.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I was that serious with it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: How did they change your life?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Like? What changed my life? Out?
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: International profile?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: International profile exactly.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I went on tour with him Chris rock Over in
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Europe and to hear, you know, nobody looked like me
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: screaming my name on a foreign country coming from Southeast
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: DC was amazing. Liverpool, we went to so many different
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: London and all the rest of it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And then it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Got me in to next Flix for them to sponsor
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: my next special and able to do more business because
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: they are the premiere one when it comes to doing
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: comedy specials.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Wow, is it true that Kim Whitley ghosted you after
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: you after you.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Put it down on putting.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: That a Q. Yeah yeah, I get her on that. Yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Man, Kim used today for a vers. She ghost me
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: out there. She hit me and left me.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm a king. I don't pay for the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: satisfied you. You got to go. I'm king Jeoffrey Man,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you take care of the king.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Man was the one time thing. Oh yeah, we did
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: it one time, Kim is. But Kim did more for
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: me than anything. When I first had my biggest break
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: put for that time my TV show on ABC, and
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Kim came and helped me navigate through that because it
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: was I had a lot of people around me that wasn't.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Good for me.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: And she came in and showed me how to do
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: TV and reiterated what I know now is you know
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not an actor.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a movie star. And there's a difference.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: What's the difference?
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Ed told me this, and now I understand it. An
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: actor Eddie Murphy Ed, He said, a movie star is
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: a person that already has the content. An actor is
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: a person you have to give the content to see
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, we're walking content. So when you tell
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: me something to read, which I do. I would say,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: that's that's not how I would say it. I would
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: say it like this. And I know the best way
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: to say this because I'm in the front line saying
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: this to.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: People every day. An actor will sit here.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Just interpret and say, Okay, I'm going to digest what
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: you say and formulated to your specification, so it to
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: be said the way you written.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: You wrote it, and that's where it was. I wouldn't
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: talk like this.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So if you have people that's not they give you
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: a show in your image based upon what you'll say,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: say we're going to do a show about earthquake, about
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: your life, and then you got people that don't know
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: nothing about your life, right, and you say this is
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: how you say it, and you don't have the authority
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: to change that. Writers you know and the way is written,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: then you'll struggle with that part of it. So you
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: have to say forget it. And she was the one
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: that on the set while I was filming my pilot
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: for ABC, pulled me to the side and say say
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: how you want to say this show show? And once
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: she and she empowered me with that, it took off,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: but it didn't get picked up man.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: That's the only threat to what you said. When I
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: think about Eddie Murphy, I think about him in a
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it was Beverly Hills cop for
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: forty dollars, one of them roles wasn't for him. It
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: was Syvester Stallone or somebody right, and just him being him,
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: he went in there and did it. It is like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: now you think about it, it's like, oh, that is okay,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I get that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at it. Always Kris Tucker played Chris Tucker.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: When you get Kevin.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Every comedian who had the biggest movies, they was playing
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: themselves in that fictitious role.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You allow him?
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Why hire him for what you the reason you picked him.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: You didn't pick him because he's an actor. You didn't
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: go to none of these schools, Julia Harvard, none of
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: these theaters. You picked him because he's an individual talent.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So why would you bring him in then put him
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in this square? It just never made sense.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: And some of the biggest stars has always been comedians,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: but they always been themselves and the saddler all of
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: them they played themselves else So they are movie stars,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: they're not actors. You put them in a position. How
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: would ice Q be in this situation? How would Kevin
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Hart be in this situation? You know what I mean,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: That's how it is. And if you don't have the
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: power or you don't have the management of the team,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: too way to structure your deal with the flexibility you know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: you know, you sit there and then they changes all
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: the way through because they'll give you a deal and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: you'll pitch the show to them and they say they
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: love it, and by the time they finish writing it,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the show ain't nothing, but you pitched it to and
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: then it fails. You're like, I never wanted a gate
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: dog that flew around, you know what I mean? If
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: you can get the gate doll, that'll really set it off.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I see it. Yeah, that flies around.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: A conversation that that always comes up is black comedians
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: wearing a dress?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: True? Why and what's your thoughts on it?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: It's hard when white dudes Malloy ain't said it's so personally.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: When white dudes do it, man, they're genius. When we
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: do it, it's has something to do with our manhood.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's art. If it's a hit and
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: it's funny. White Chicks was great, Big Mama House was great,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I know Marty, Marty is
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: one of the manni is Man's Man's.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: There is Nary Johnson basketball player, Grandmama.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: My Mama, Flip Wilson, Gerald Deane, you understand, Bigger Killer,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: kill you, the whole nine. And so it's just another,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: you know, another way to take shots at people that
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: they want to And what's heartbreaking for me is as
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: younger comedians that's taking these shots and at the people
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: that paved the way for them, and it's sick.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Now, well, I think a lot of times two people
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: use those things to justify why they're not where they
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: want to.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Be exactly exactly, And I strongly believe that to the
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: core of my heart, because you need something to tell
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: yourself so you can go to sleep at night.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not there.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: It has to be you so loud, you taking it
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: to the face, and everybody sold out who had a
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: TV show.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: That means there is no God. There is no God.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: If God has destined me to be a network television star,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: you're telling me that the forces in the gatekeeper are
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: far stronger than my God. That's what you're telling me,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: because so none of us can have a television show
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: hit TV show without taking it to the face.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Taking it to the face.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: You know what's so crazy, though, But when you watch
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: these shows that we like, right Cavi It with Cosby Show, Martin,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Family Matter, A Different World, and Living Single, they.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Were great shows exactly.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: The people are talented, yes, and most of these people
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: still are doing what they doing now. They still have
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: some type of success.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Exactly, And that's what it is because it takes a
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: long time to get there. Do you know how hard
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: it is to have a hit TV show? Of course
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: you understand what I'm saying, just to they just don't
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: get ease away. These ain't It's like hitting a lottery.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: It is like hitting the lottery the chances that you're
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: going to get a TV show. First of all, get
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the deal that they pick you out of all the
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: other comedians out here. Then you get a good a
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: great enough team around. And then at first y'all come
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: together to get the chemistry and they translate, and then
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: you don't have no executives saying well and then do this,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: let me catch before he got a chance to get
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: on his legs. You know what I mean to go
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: to go to go. Man, you got a better chance
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: hitting a lottery in having a hit TV show.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: And the keyword is hit.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: By the way, it's hard to even sell one.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: True, it's hard to get it green lit, thank you,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: And once it gets on TV, it's no guaranteed it's
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: gonna be a success.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Every year.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: For the first three years, you're on pins and needles.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: You don't get comfortable till the fourth or maybe the fifth.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: At that time they already see it's time for it
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: to go, syndicate it. We can go get these honey,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: are gonna make it, and we're gone way through. But
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: after that that first year, when you get in and
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: you're good with it, baughn you gone the second year?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: If it don't second year, they're gonna let you go.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: The third gear. The head of the studio who love
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: your love your show, he gets fired. They bringing a
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: new dude. I never hated Joe show.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: DJ. Get that ship over here, you know what I mean,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: And you're gone.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Then you a couple of years ago it was you
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: d l didn't somebody pick you up?
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had deals, didn't get through.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Then I had a deal from the next everything new special,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: new TV show, all that, then these nigga's going stripe.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: You like I damn you know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: So now we're back at it again, negotiating for my
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: TV show and my special and the rest of that's
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: just where it is now. You gotta formulate a good
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: team casting out. I mean, Martin did it. He had Gina, Yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Pam did was seasonal actress that he could lean on
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to learn it. Why the time they carry it? And
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: it was it was a it's beautiful. You just hope
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: that the stars line.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Up for you too.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Every comedian comes always asked, do you remember your best show?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: In your worst show? Best show?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: My Next Fix special was my best show because what
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: it turned out to be my worst show was North
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Carolina AT and T because it it's hard for me
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: to tell jokes to people that never had a job.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: College.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, college, Yeah, it's hard to relate to that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Type of you know, so that was my worst show.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Do you care about making a transition from stand up
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: to TV?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And it's at not AT and T A and T
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: A and t okay at and T an T. Yes
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and no.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think commercial success defined if you're great or
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: not as a stand up comedian or made it or not?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Uh? The yes part. I want that money. I want that.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Success of the financial security that comes along with it
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: and the comfortability of being home Monday through Friday, stepping
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: on a on a on the stage and doing my
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: product and then coming back home. The road is good,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: but it's tiresome, you know what I mean. The money
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: is great, but it's tiresome at this point, and been
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: doing it over thirty something years, I am coming to
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: this point. How do I make as much money as
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I can this next five years and get.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: The hell out?
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Nay, talk to this about this.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: This between being broken in debt because you said at
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: one point you were in the whole for three million.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Man, see being broke that means you just ain't got
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: no money. And that means even if you got some money,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I get it to somebody else.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: We understand what I'm saying. That's the difference on it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: And I was in depth because I was playing the
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: game a lot of entertainers do. When I blow. I
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: would take care of Uncle Sam during that time, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: it never came, you know what I mean? And Uncle
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Sam don't play, so now you know it didn't come
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: to fruition on that point of blowing at that point.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: So now I just put the money to the side
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: and know them. You know, around April, I'm gonna get
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: molested financially.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: My Uncle Sam comes. Uncle Sam come, Oh, he comes,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and they average up. They don't average up, they average up.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: And they let you. And see the thing about Uncle
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Sam so good about it. He a sleeper sale. He
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: allows you not to pay him until you fall off
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: and he comes. See, and it's not the money that
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: you owe him that gets you.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It's the penoties. And yeah, it's usually more than the principles.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: So the best thing is so I'm like, okay, once
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: it took me to get out. It took me about
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: six years to get to get out of ol. Uncle Yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: the three million dollars Jesus Christ got all of it
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: on there.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Think you about it now, I feel like they'll scratch
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: you out a little bit.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: No, I mean yeah, I mean That's why I'm an independent.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I don't believe that. I don't believe that taxation. You
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: should not have to give forty percent of anything to anybody.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: If I gave forty percent of my forty percent out
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: of every dollar to alcohol hall, I'd be an alcoholic.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: If I gave forty percent of my dollar to drugs,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I'd be a drug addict. So why is it cool
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: for the government to get.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Forty And by the way, I wouldn't have no problem
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: with it if I saw that money actually going to
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: our communities. True, if I saw it going to our communities,
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: and you know, our schools was better and true, people
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: could afford better housing because whatever it is, if people
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: had free health care, I would have no problem.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Trump problem with it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you why.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Because there's so many billionaires and millionaires that pay no taxes, right, true,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and they let them slide. And these are companies that
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: had generational wealth, white companies that had this for twenty
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: thirty years haven't paid taxes. When you look at Donald Trump,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump says he paid you know, ten dollars
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in tax for the year. True, and then you look
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: at yourself. But then you see what Donald Trump is worth,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: you say, ain't no goddamn.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Way, ain't no god that.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: And on that part of it, I wouldn't have no
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: problem doing all that too.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: If I utilize some of the things.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: If I ain't got no kids, I shouldn't be paying
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: no goddamn public school money.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I ain't got no kid in public school. And if
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: my kids it is in private school, playing for public school.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Certain services, if I'm not
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: utilizing them, I shouldn't have to pay for them, you
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? And that's what I think they
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: should break it down just as simple. In the United States,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: the American dream is free. Only thing the government gonna
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: take care of your health care and your education. Other
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: than that you on your own.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: I thought about that too in regard to like, you
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: know when people talk about reparations, just like yo, if
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: you make a certain amount of money, just don't tax me.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Exactly, don't take me.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: I'm saying if you're a black person, that make a
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: certain about not first white people all the time. I'm saying,
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: if if you're black and you don't have a certain
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: amount of money, yes you give them reparation. But if
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: you're black and you make a certain amount of money,
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: just don't.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Don't tax me. I'm with that. That's a great ass idea.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you still consider yourself a Republican?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: No, I'm an independent me and Sheryl Underwood used to
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: be the only comedians back in the day that was Republican.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: But now since the Republicans has been hijacked by the MAGA,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I had to tap the fuck out.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: I tell folks that all the time. I said, if.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Even though I feel like Republicans have always been the
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: party of white supremacy, but if traditional conservative values came
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: back as opposed to this MAGA stuff, I think right
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: now people are looking for something different so bad that
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: you see a lot more black and brown people going
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: to be Republican.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you really look at it, black people
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: are we are the most conservative people. We believe in God,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: we believe in less government, which is the police, you understand,
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: and we believe in personal responsibility even than some of
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: us don't. So that's that used to be the doctrine
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: for the Republican Party back in the day when I
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: was in the military and strong military, which they gave
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: us a raise all the time.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: So that would make me a Republican back in the day.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel I'm an independent too. I can't.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: I just I feel like both parties are full of shit,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: but one but clearly what we're seeing on the Republican
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: side right now, that's something we ain't ever seen before.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Oh he got fashion a day.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he gonna win, you think so? Oh yeah,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I fuck it.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's I'm David in some days I'm like, man,
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: he ain't want nothing since twenty sixteen.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: No, but he wasn't never on the ballot. He on
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the ballot this time. And Joe Man.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Any day I was watching Joe President Joe Biden do
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: a speech and I swore, Angel, just go.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: By his hair.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I said, they about to pick him up any day, now,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: don'ta come grab him up.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: I got a homeboy who said, Man, every day I
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: wake up and pray for Joe Biden good health.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Oh man, man, you better keep praying them because he
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: on the call log. On the log, Man, you see.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Him, you say, the black dude from the cars Rood
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: video with the long coat.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Boom bom, bone bone. What you don't do nowhere to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: just look for Joe, looking for Joe? Joe. I tell you, Angel,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: we were flying by. I said, oh lord, he on
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the pickup squad. Lord, have mercy.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Earthquake could be at Sody Hall tonight and tomorrow. Get
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: your tickets. If you haven't got them already, and we
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: appreciate you for joining us.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Brother man, thank you all for having me. Please follow
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: me at the real earthquake, and I love you brother.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Keep doing what you're doing. Man, you too, my brother.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: God bless y'all. It's earthquake. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Good morning.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up earth in the morning. The Breakfast Club.