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Trade Tiers + Boston streaking · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: They are willing to trade a Corner outfielder Jared Duran
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Speaker 1: William Brady, but they're not going to do it just
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Speaker 1: for the sake of doing it.
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Speaker 2: Go check it out anyway. Trade deadline tears put out
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Speaker 2: there by the athletic so let's run through them, and
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Speaker 2: let's start with could be parentheses, should be aggressive buyers,
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Speaker 2: Detroit Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Cubs. And if you're listening to
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Speaker 2: the pod version of this, I'm not going to point
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Speaker 2: out all of the needs they placed there. You should
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Speaker 2: just watch the clip on YouTube later on. But from
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Speaker 2: what you're looking at on the screen, what stands out
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Speaker 2: the most crats? Where do you see one of those
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Speaker 2: needs definitely being filled? And do you have a name
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Speaker 2: in mind?
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Speaker 3: Everybody wanting relief pitching, So we can't even talk about
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Speaker 3: relief pitching with any of these teams because they all
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Speaker 3: need it. To me, I don't feel like the Phillies
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Speaker 3: leave the trade deadline without an outfielder. I feel like
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Speaker 3: there's somebody out there that they could possibly overpay for.
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Speaker 3: Luise Robert obviously has been swung around there. They are
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Speaker 3: looking for somebody to be able to hit right handed pitching.
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Speaker 3: So he's not hitting any pitching right now, but there's
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Speaker 3: intrigue for athleticism there. I just you'd have to convince.
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Speaker 3: You have a harder time convincing me that Dave Dombrowski
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Speaker 3: doesn't do something. Is it a superstar outfit or I
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Speaker 3: doubt it. So that's why I would lean to not
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Speaker 3: towards Luis Robert. But Dave Dombrowski's getting something in the outfield.
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Speaker 2: I think you could say that about their relief pitching.
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Speaker 2: I would be shocked and floored if they don't get
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Speaker 2: themselves a high leverage reliever.
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Speaker 4: But you're saying that's obvious.
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Speaker 3: It's everybody. Everybody needed. Everybody in that list there, everybody
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Speaker 3: needed a relief pitcher. Are you saying who's gonna get
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Speaker 3: the highest end relief pitcher? I mean, look, Dave Dombrowski
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Speaker 3: did not go and get Tanner Scott he was available.
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Speaker 3: He did not go and get Kirby Yates. He was available.
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Speaker 3: He did not. I don't know how much. Blake Trenton
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Speaker 3: actually cared like there was guys that were available in
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Speaker 3: the offseason, he did not go get them. So is
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Speaker 3: he gonna get the most high end star. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: but I do know that he's going to fill that
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Speaker 3: outfield role and relief pitching. Somebody's gonna pay a premium
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Speaker 3: for anybody you get, even some middle tier relief pitchers,
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Speaker 3: because everybody on that list needs somebody, and all those
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Speaker 3: teams want to win and are built to win this year.
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Speaker 2: My point is they lost Alvarado for the playoffs, so
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Speaker 2: they're gonna hop to fill that. Boyd, they didn't know
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Speaker 2: that going into the season. I mean unless they were
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Speaker 2: following him around watching what he was putting into his body.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, Age, I actually think that's a good move
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Speaker 2: for them if they can't get someone that's more of
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Speaker 2: a proven bat this year. Luise Robert is going to
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Speaker 2: be a scrap he pick up for the Phillies, and
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Speaker 2: you know he's gonna play good defense and run the
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Speaker 2: base as well. Maybe he finds himself. It's not like
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Speaker 2: he's forty five years old.
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Speaker 5: He couldn't. He's definitely a change of scenery guy, and
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Speaker 5: I would encourage someone to try that with him. But
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Speaker 5: then also I thought like guy like Alloy Jimenez was
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Speaker 5: a change of scenery guy, and he's in Triple A
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Speaker 5: barely playing, so Jo al Mancatta, I thought when he
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Speaker 5: changed scenery would be great, but he hasn't hardly played
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Speaker 5: this year. So I just don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I want Louise Robert to go to a place where
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Speaker 5: he gets an opportunity to win and see what he
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Speaker 5: can do. But I just don't know what you can
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Speaker 5: get for him. That's the biggest problem. I just don't know.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Tier two typical buyers. These are all
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Speaker 2: teams that absolutely will be shopping, just like the tier
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Speaker 2: above them, Blue Jays, Astros, Mets, Brewers, Mariners.
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Speaker 4: Pick something for one of them.
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Speaker 5: Aj Uh to me, the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays
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Speaker 5: to me, they needed just a pitcher, relief or starter.
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Speaker 5: And then the Mets. Centerfield is the one position in
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Speaker 5: their field when you look at the offense doesn't match
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Speaker 5: up with the rest of the team. So but Luise
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Speaker 5: Roberts to them, I don't know who. The question is
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Speaker 5: who What center fielder is out there that teams will
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Speaker 5: trade there isn't any who Cedric Cedric, Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 5: but if you look at his numbers, he's kind of
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Speaker 5: he's kind of a little bit this year. He got
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Speaker 5: off to a great story, he's kind of ratcheted down. So,
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Speaker 5: uh yeah, I guess again, like some of these are
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Speaker 5: all wishes and dreams and hopes and all that. But
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Speaker 5: the problem is the teams that are sellers just don't
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Speaker 5: have the pieces that these teams need. There's only so
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Speaker 5: many of them to go around. I mean, the more
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Speaker 5: important part is if you go to the aggressive sellers.
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Speaker 5: All right, let's look at those guys. Colorado who they
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Speaker 5: they're not trading their center fielder. They love him, Brent Doyle, right,
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Speaker 5: they're not trading him. He'd be a nice fit.
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Speaker 3: They're not trading anybody. Rockies aren't trade anybody.
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Speaker 5: Baltimore, Okay, fine, Pittsburgh, they're not trading O'Neil Cruz. He's
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Speaker 5: their centerfielder. Miami, I don't even know who their centerfielder is,
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Speaker 5: so they're not trading him. In Washington, who's their centerfielder.
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Speaker 5: They're not trading him either, because I don't know who
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Speaker 5: it is off the top of my head.
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Speaker 4: Mullins is the one.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Robert. Mullins and Robert are the two center fielders.
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Speaker 5: And then you go relievers, any relievers. Bird maybe in Colorado.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had a stinker the other day and
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Speaker 3: that kind of derailed his stuff. To me, on that list,
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Speaker 3: it's the Mariners. First base is open. Guess who's south
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Speaker 3: of you in Arizona, Josh Naylor. This is their chance.
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Speaker 3: This is like chance number five to add to this team.
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Speaker 3: Jerry Depoto loves to trade dudes, and he would love
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Speaker 3: to have some cash from the ownership, but clearly that
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Speaker 3: doesn't happen. Josh Naylor. Mariners have been looking for that
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Speaker 3: first base bat. Maybe he's the guy.
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Speaker 2: Tier three trending to the by side, Boston, San Diego,
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Speaker 2: San Francisco. Two catchers listed on that list.
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Speaker 5: Padres catcher for me is the biggest hole on that
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Speaker 5: whole list because they don't starting pitching. You just don't
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Speaker 5: know who's coming back when. So to me, the Padres
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Speaker 5: have been looking for a catcher feels like forever, right.
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Speaker 5: They keep every year it's like, oh we got a catcher.
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Speaker 5: We got a new catcher. We got a new catcher,
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Speaker 5: we got a new catcher. Can they go out and
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Speaker 5: get that catcher that can be there for three or
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Speaker 5: four years and make their pitchers feel comfortable. That's the
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Speaker 5: biggest Maybe Sean Murphy grip fit great there, He would
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Speaker 5: fit great in San Diego. But can they afford him?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have you would they would? I
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Speaker 3: mean who knows? But I was looking at and now,
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Speaker 3: oh the Red Sox. Yeah, the Red Sox. They're three,
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Speaker 3: there are three options. I think it might be a
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Speaker 3: mute point. I feel like they might roll back to
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Speaker 3: being a five hundred deam by the time they get
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Speaker 3: to the trade deadline and not really do a whole lot.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's show Tier four. This is where I
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Speaker 2: find discrepancies. Really, can we actually do Tier four and five?
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Speaker 2: The rest of them don't matter as much, but Tier
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Speaker 2: four and five because the other ones are for sellers.
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Speaker 2: You've got the tailors, meaning they could buy and sell
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals, the Braves, the Twins and the Rangers, and
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Speaker 2: then their Tier five is trending on this cell side,
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Speaker 2: and that's the Rays, the Diamondbacks, the Guardians and the Royals. Now,
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Speaker 2: for me, guys, it's really hard to see the Braves
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Speaker 2: buying at this point, it's for me hard to see
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Speaker 2: the Royals selling yet. I think the Royals are still
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Speaker 2: going to make a play for.
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Speaker 4: A little bit here.
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Speaker 2: You can jump pretty quickly back into the American League
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Speaker 2: wildcard race with a good week or two.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the the Rays aren't going to sell. The Rays
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Speaker 5: are going to try and add, you know. They they'll
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Speaker 5: try and add a cheap piece for me, or to
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Speaker 5: a bullpen, a starter or whatever it is. They'll find
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Speaker 5: somebody out there and they'll try and do. That's what
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Speaker 5: the Rays do. Arizona's gonna have to sell because the
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Speaker 5: division they're in. Cleveland's gonna have to sell. They're so
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Speaker 5: far out. Atlanta's not buying. I don't know why they
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Speaker 5: would think they're buying. Trust me, they talk to enough
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Speaker 5: people in Atlanta. They they don't think. They don't just
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Speaker 5: have enough pieces. There's too many guys out for them. Minnesota, Yeah,
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Speaker 5: we'll see Texas. Sat. Louis is the interesting one here
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Speaker 5: because what are they gonna do because Hellsley, who we
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Speaker 5: talked about a lot in the offseason, getting traded if
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Speaker 5: they fall out of it. But he goes Sunny Gray
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Speaker 5: is not going so don't even bring him up because
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Speaker 5: he's he said, I'm not being traded, but they have
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Speaker 5: some other pieces that could bring back some stuff for them.
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Speaker 5: So Saint Louis is the interesting team on this.
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Speaker 2: For me, I'll give you their schedule on our way
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Speaker 2: out here. Second half of the season leading up to
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Speaker 2: the deadline. They've got three in Arizona, then they have
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Speaker 2: three at Colorado. This is for the Cardinals, then they
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Speaker 2: go home. Their home stand has the Padres in town
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Speaker 2: for four and the Marlins in town for four leading
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Speaker 2: up to that deadline. That's what they have before July
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Speaker 2: thirty first, which is a Thursday, and they're off that day.
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Speaker 5: The Padres series is where it's at for the Cardinals.
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Speaker 5: They should hope if they win four said, they win
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Speaker 5: four out of six at minimum in Arizona and Colorado,
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Speaker 5: then they go home play the Padres. That's going to
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Speaker 5: be the buy or sell sweepstakes. Whoever wins that series
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Speaker 5: might be the buyer and whoever loses it might be
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Speaker 5: the seller.
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Speaker 3: That's good. I like that.
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Speaker 2: The thing that's funny is so many teams say, oh,
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Speaker 2: let's see what the next two weeks look like. Realistically,
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Speaker 2: most teams are going to play five hundredition be in
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Speaker 2: a very similar spot. You might have one team going
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Speaker 2: to run one way or another, but most teams are
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Speaker 2: still going to have question marks heading into that trade
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Speaker 2: deadline period. But it does mean that we likely won't
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Speaker 2: have a ton of activity until closer to the deadline,
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Speaker 2: because if you're a team looking for assets and you
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Speaker 2: think you're going to get a better one from a
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Speaker 2: team on the edge of buying or selling, you're going
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Speaker 2: You're still following your playoff but I'll take it too exactly.
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Speaker 2: contender two weeks ago, but now you're following a playoff
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Speaker 4: Red Sox are the hottest team coming out of the break.
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Speaker 4: They've won ten games in a row.
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Speaker 2: Some of that was against the soft schedule, but then
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Speaker 2: heading into the break, they sweeped the Rays in four games.
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Speaker 2: Rays had been playing really good ball for a while.
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Speaker 2: They win three of those matchups by one run. What
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Speaker 2: is your thoughts on this current Red Sox team? Do
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Speaker 2: you think they'll keep this up in the second half?
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Speaker 1: The Red Sox might be good and that would make
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Speaker 1: some people look smart because in March, when I was
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Speaker 1: covering the Mets for Newsday and we were doing our
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Speaker 1: season predictions.
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Speaker 5: I picked the.
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Speaker 1: Red Sox to win the ale least, so I think
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Speaker 1: at this point, winners of ten in a row, they're
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Speaker 1: three back of the Blue Jays. I probably got to
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Speaker 1: stick with that prediction, right, but the division is right
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Speaker 1: there for the taking. The Blue Jays aren't that scary,
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Speaker 1: the Yankees aren't that scary, and maybe they don't see
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox are scary either, And that's a reasonable take.
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Speaker 1: But they've won ten in a row. We're going to
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Speaker 1: learn a lot about the Red Sox in the first
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Speaker 1: week and a half coming out of the break because
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Speaker 1: they're going to play the three first place National League
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Speaker 1: teams Cubs, Philly and then home to host the Dodgers,
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Speaker 1: which should be a lot of fun. So it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a very interesting and eventful two weeks leading up
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Speaker 1: to the trade deadline, for sure.
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Speaker 3: What is a successful trip or a group of series
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Speaker 3: out of those three series?
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Speaker 1: Is it?
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Speaker 3: Hey, if they win one of those three series but
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Speaker 3: they don't get swept, is that successful? Because they're a
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Speaker 3: young team, it feels like they have like some built
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Speaker 3: in excuses Bregman's coming back. What's successful?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can manage even a winning record in
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Speaker 1: those nine games and go five and four. I think
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Speaker 1: they'd sign up for that in a heartbeat. Even four
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Speaker 1: and five a losing record a little bit. They're probably
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Speaker 1: still holding a playoff spot at the end of it,
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Speaker 1: going into a series with the Twins, which is their
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Speaker 1: last one before the deadline. So four and five, eh,
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Speaker 1: five and four for sure, and you know, we'll see
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Speaker 1: what they're made oft of. As you said, they have
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Speaker 1: a lot of young players, so the range of potential
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Speaker 1: outcomes is wider than normal, not only for these week,
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Speaker 1: this week and a half, but the next two and
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Speaker 1: a half months. So you know, we'll see what those
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Speaker 1: guys got.
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Speaker 5: Tim. I'm gonna I'm doing the Red Sox game on
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Speaker 5: Saturday in Chicago, So yeah, I saw the pitching matchups
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Speaker 5: and it's Gilito on Friday, who's been pitching unbelievably well
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Speaker 5: since he came back, and then Brian bao Is on
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Speaker 5: Saturday against Semonaga. What a great pitching matchup two months
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Speaker 5: ago you might not have said that, maybe on one side,
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Speaker 5: but not the other. What have these two guys done
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Speaker 5: to make them so valuable and just so awesome for
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Speaker 5: the Red Sox.
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Speaker 1: It's It's been fascinating to see because when I showed
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Speaker 1: up in early June, neither guy was very good. Giolito
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Speaker 1: looked terrible. He had a you know, like a six
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Speaker 1: and a half ra and seven start since returning from
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Speaker 1: the injured list, and now he has a point seven
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Speaker 1: ray in half it doesn't start, So it's been a
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Speaker 1: pretty remarkable turnaround both guys. It's a little different for
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Speaker 1: it is all goes back to a bullpen session in
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Speaker 1: early June at Yankee Stadium when he locked in on
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Speaker 1: some what Andrew Bailey, the Pigeon coach, called biomech callouts,
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Speaker 1: so basically they're you know, they're they're they're they're high
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Speaker 1: tech guys looking at the super slow mo video made
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Speaker 1: some recommendations to Gilido and got him back to his
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Speaker 1: delivery and his mechanics from when he was quite good
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Speaker 1: in really early early this decade through you know, the
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Speaker 1: first half of twenty twenty three, even got him back
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Speaker 1: to where he was, and he said, this is the
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Speaker 1: most locked in he has ever felt in his major
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Speaker 1: league career as far as being able to make adjustments
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Speaker 1: inning to inning or even at bat to at bat,
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Speaker 1: pitch to pitch with BeO. It's a little different because
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Speaker 1: we might just be seeing the growth of a young
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Speaker 1: guy who may or may have been rushed to the
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Speaker 1: majors a couple of years ago, did a lot of
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Speaker 1: learning at the game's highest level, which is not easy
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Speaker 1: to do, took his lumps, for sure, and now is
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Speaker 1: starting to pitch like the top prospect the Mets, the Mets,
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox thought they had a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 1: And you know, is he going to be normally a
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Speaker 1: low three z E A guy? I don't know, But
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Speaker 1: in a half of a season, which isn't that small
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Speaker 1: of a sample anymore, that's where he's at. And over
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Speaker 1: the past month plus he's been even better than that.
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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, Beto's just getting better as opposed
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Speaker 1: to throwing it back to when he was better like Dildoz.
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Speaker 3: And these pitchers are doing this with way below average
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Speaker 3: defense behind them. They've given up the second most unearned
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Speaker 3: runs of any team, and the other team is obviously
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Speaker 3: the Colorado Rockies, who had were just in Fenwain at
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Speaker 3: twenty one wins. Does their biomechanical lab have any flow
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Speaker 3: issues with or figuring out how to biomechanically have their
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Speaker 3: fielders feel the ball any better.
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Speaker 1: It's so interesting because on the whole the defenses is
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Speaker 1: not great and the airs of air and the unearned
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Speaker 1: runs are a disaster, and then on an individual basis
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Speaker 1: they are nasty at some spots. Saddan Rafaela amazing at
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Speaker 1: center field. Will you or Bray great? In right field?
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Speaker 1: Duran pretty good and left. I think a big part
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Speaker 1: of improving the defense comes up the middle in the infield,
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Speaker 1: and it's been the defense has been better as the
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Speaker 1: Red Sox stuff played better in recent weeks. Funny how
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Speaker 1: that works, right. Christian Campbell, who shot through the miners
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Speaker 1: and opened the season as the second basement, got a
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Speaker 1: big contract right off the bat was really bad base
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Speaker 1: for a couple of months, and then they sent him
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Speaker 1: down to Triple A and now they have Marcela Meyer
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Speaker 1: then and my Ier is much more sound defensively, can
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Speaker 1: play anywhere in the infield, and if he is the
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Speaker 1: most days second baseman the rest of the way, they'll
18:16
Speaker 1: be much better off defensively at shortstop. Trevor Story. You know,
18:21
Speaker 1: I didn't see Trevor Story early in the season when
18:24
Speaker 1: he was playing regularly for the first time in really
18:28
Speaker 1: a couple of years after some brutal injury luck. But
18:31
Speaker 1: to hear him describe it, to hear Alex Cory describe it,
18:34
Speaker 1: being in the flow of a season for the first
18:36
Speaker 1: time in a while has allowed him to play better
18:39
Speaker 1: defense and have that, you know, almost stylish free form
18:44
Speaker 1: flow at shortstop. So up the middle defensively, they're looking
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Speaker 1: a lot better. So I would expect the defense the
18:51
Speaker 1: rest of the way to be better than what it
18:54
Speaker 1: was early in the season.
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Speaker 3: Would you expect them to tray from any of their
18:58
Speaker 3: big leaguers because the other part of it is they
19:00
Speaker 3: also have all of Raffie Dever's money that they could
19:05
Speaker 3: put towards somebody else. So is there Duran obviously is there,
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Speaker 3: But there's some big league talent on the field that's young,
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Speaker 3: and people are like, well, you always trade young talent.
19:17
Speaker 1: Sure, they are willing to trade a corner outfielder Jared Duran,
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Speaker 1: Willi or Bray you, but they're not going to do
19:25
Speaker 1: it just for the sake of doing it and alleviating
19:29
Speaker 1: what some might view, including myself, as a glut of
19:33
Speaker 1: outfielders or a log jam in the outfield right now
19:36
Speaker 1: on a short term basis two and a half months
19:39
Speaker 1: this season. They are comfortable having those four guys Roman, Anthony,
19:44
Speaker 1: Jared Duran, Saddan Rafaela, Willi or braw and just rotating
19:48
Speaker 1: them as necessary. But if some team comes along and says, hey,
19:54
Speaker 1: here's a proposal that will make your major league team
19:56
Speaker 1: immediately better for your playoff race, we'll take Duran. The
20:00
Speaker 1: Red Sox are gonna jump on that if it's a
20:03
Speaker 1: good deal. So those guys are available, yes, do I
20:06
Speaker 1: expect it a trade to happen in the next two weeks.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's
20:12
Speaker 1: certainly possible. The Red Sox are willing to listen.
20:17
Speaker 5: It just surprises me that they would make trade from
20:19
Speaker 5: one of their strengths, but I guess that's what you
20:22
Speaker 5: have to do as a team. Would they trade? I mean,
20:25
Speaker 5: Duran seems to be the name we keep possibly.
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Speaker 3: Hearing over and over and over again.
20:29
Speaker 5: Did he piss somebody off in Boston? Because I thought
20:31
Speaker 5: they loved him in Boston? Why? Why is it him?
20:33
Speaker 5: Why is it? I mean, they can't move your Sheeta. Obviously,
20:36
Speaker 5: we haven't even mentioned they're not gonna trade Anthony, right,
20:39
Speaker 5: But why is it Duran. I thought people in Boston
20:41
Speaker 5: loved Duran.
20:43
Speaker 1: Dude. Duran is very popular among fans. He is the
20:46
Speaker 1: on When MLBY came out with their list of most
20:48
Speaker 1: popular jerseys of the first half a few days ago,
20:51
Speaker 1: Duran was the only Red Sox player on it. Fans
20:55
Speaker 1: love him largely. He was amazing last year, not as
21:00
Speaker 1: good this year. But if you look at the outfield
21:05
Speaker 1: picture right now for the Red Sox, Roman Anthony's not
21:07
Speaker 1: going anywhere. We know that, Raphaela not going anywhere. We
21:12
Speaker 1: know that, and that leads two guys their corner outfielders,
21:15
Speaker 1: Duran and the Bray, And both of those guys are
21:19
Speaker 1: sort of in the same bucket as far as yeah,
21:21
Speaker 1: they can be had if you're willing to pay up
21:24
Speaker 1: as another team. A Brave's a little cheaper, more years
21:28
Speaker 1: of team control, gold glove right fielder, So maybe that
21:33
Speaker 1: makes him more desirable to keep and more or more
21:38
Speaker 1: difficult to pry away from the Red Sox, which leaves Durant,
21:42
Speaker 1: who's still a few years away from free agency himself,
21:45
Speaker 1: still a very good player himself, all that stuff. But
21:47
Speaker 1: if you look at it that way, that's why Duran
21:50
Speaker 1: would be the odd man out. Even if you know
21:53
Speaker 1: both corner outfielders or either corner outfielder theoretically could could
21:58
Speaker 1: be dealt in the right trade.
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Speaker 5: Tim, I'm assuming I know you watch the All Star Game.
22:03
Speaker 5: We love the swing off. You tweeted out, Peter Alonzo
22:06
Speaker 5: can quit the derby, but the derby can't quit Pete Alonzo.
22:08
Speaker 5: What did you mean by this? Because Peter Alonzo was
22:11
Speaker 5: in the swing off didn't even get the swing. How
22:13
Speaker 5: cool would it have been if he would have got
22:14
Speaker 5: a chance.
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Speaker 1: It would have been awesome. For the record, I tweeted
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Speaker 1: that when Peter Alonzo was gonna bat, I really thought
22:22
Speaker 1: he was gonna have a chance to walk it off there.
22:24
Speaker 1: But it was so funny, it was perfect. Here's a
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Speaker 1: guy who made the derby a piece, a major piece
22:33
Speaker 1: of his baseball identity, and this year he says, I'm
22:37
Speaker 1: gonna take the year off, and he did, and he
22:39
Speaker 1: didn't do the home run derby, and then lo and behold,
22:43
Speaker 1: All Star Game is tied and apparently includes a swing
22:47
Speaker 1: off in that scenario, now, which was electric, by the way,
22:51
Speaker 1: a lot of fun So I thought it would have
22:54
Speaker 1: been perfect if Miranda had figured out how to hit
22:57
Speaker 1: one home run in his in his chance there and
23:02
Speaker 1: giving Alonzo a chance to walk it off would have
23:04
Speaker 1: been really funny. But so it goes.
23:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the best choice. Maybe to go with Jonathan Ronda.
23:13
Speaker 2: No offense to him, great hitter this year, but.
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Speaker 5: No offense Jonathan I mean Sky keep his pott, dude.
23:19
Speaker 4: I mean okay, timpacked.
23:23
Speaker 2: Tim one home run to win you a game in
23:26
Speaker 2: a derby in this derby form, you you want no, no,
23:30
Speaker 2: we're not picking anyone. Do you want Jonathan Ronda, Byron
23:33
Speaker 2: Buxton or Bobby Witt because the rules, according to the manager,
23:37
Speaker 2: even though these weren't the official rules, were that they
23:38
Speaker 2: wanted to use guys that were still playing in the game.
23:42
Speaker 5: How would you.
23:44
Speaker 1: I'd probably have to go Buxton of those three, but
23:48
Speaker 1: in two not Randa, right, thank you, thank you, With
23:53
Speaker 1: apologies to Randa. But it killed the dream for Pete Alonzo.
23:57
Speaker 1: I think one of those other two gus at least
23:59
Speaker 1: one more or Homer, and that would have kept that
24:01
Speaker 1: thing rolling with Pete. But anyway, he was locked in
24:05
Speaker 1: the batting cage.
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Speaker 4: He was he was, Yeah, we mentioned it earlier.
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Speaker 2: He had a great line about how he's like, yeah, now,
24:12
Speaker 2: I know how closers feel when you're going into warm
24:14
Speaker 2: up and then you don't get used.
24:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, crat Tim, that's very That's very Because Jazz Chisholm
24:19
Speaker 3: was locked into the batting cage by the American League
24:22
Speaker 3: team so he wouldn't come out to the derby.
24:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, fair, fair is fair, I joked. I joked
24:28
Speaker 1: before watching.
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Speaker 4: The derby at home.
24:30
Speaker 1: I wasn't in uh Atlanta this week, but before Jazz
24:36
Speaker 1: came up and he's you know, he's sort of odd,
24:39
Speaker 1: you know, odd duffling in the home run derby, I said,
24:42
Speaker 1: imagine if he just hits three home runs, and then
24:44
Speaker 1: he did, it was like, oh no, oh, no, poor guy.
24:49
Speaker 5: Anybody that hit zero. There has to have been somebody
24:51
Speaker 5: that hit zero at some point in this thing, right.
24:53
Speaker 4: I think there has been.
24:55
Speaker 1: I don't remember Robinson to know when his first year
24:58
Speaker 1: was really bad and the year that they did the
25:01
Speaker 1: international based country representatives Tulowitzki, Jason Bay. I think representing
25:09
Speaker 1: Canada that year was not good. I don't know if
25:12
Speaker 1: he had zero, but it was.
25:14
Speaker 4: I got names for you guys. Guys.
25:16
Speaker 2: We have a lot of AI bots that help us
25:18
Speaker 2: with this stuff nowadays.
25:19
Speaker 3: Okay.
25:20
Speaker 2: Notable examples of players that have failed to hit any
25:22
Speaker 2: home runs in a derby Yasiel Pueeg in twenty fourteen,
25:27
Speaker 2: Mike Piazza twice, Gary Gaetti also one time, and in
25:33
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety home run derby, five out of eight
25:36
Speaker 2: participants went home lists.
25:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was a different They did it different
25:41
Speaker 5: than those I know. It was like it got like.
25:43
Speaker 3: Many ches or something.
25:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's Troy glaus Chef in ninety six, Bret
25:48
Speaker 2: Boon brandon ingj in two thousand and nine, Greg Vonn
25:51
Speaker 2: in ninety six, Howard Johnson, Chris Sabo ninety one, Coyetti
25:55
Speaker 2: was in eighty nine. So we've got a lot, a
25:58
Speaker 2: lot of shutouts. So Jazz was not the worst, but
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Speaker 2: in modern times it was very memorable.
26:03
Speaker 4: His B swing was not his A swing. Anyway, We
26:06
Speaker 4: gotta go Tim. This was great, good chat.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely