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- 0:00OK. OK.
- 0:01Good morning. We are in Kili Zerine, right,
- 0:05the mixture of seeds when you plant them together, race side
- 0:08design. We are I'm going to recap Gimel,
- 0:13see if Gimel I did not do justice.
- 0:15I'm not going to reread it inside, but I do want to just
- 0:17point out. So 0 neem are in the middle of
- 0:22Gimel. It bring it's introduces to us
- 0:25or defines for us. There are three categories,
- 0:27right, as we're talking about planting seeds next to each
- 0:30other, right, It's only us or an errors you throw.
- 0:33And so there's three categories, 0 of 0 neem, 0 neem are seeds of
- 0:39crops or food plants along those lines.
- 0:42OK, So the first category is we just we we said was green.
- 0:47So it's the five grains only the five wheat spelled barley, oats
- 0:51and rye. The next category is legumes.
- 0:55Now legumes that includes beans, peas, lentils, chickpeas, which
- 0:59are garbanzo beans, peanuts, etcetera.
- 1:02And just to translate pull is is beans Afunim some say are
- 1:09hummus, right chickpeas or it could be peas, other Shim
- 1:15lentils or as rice Dokhan Millet, Samsung mean sesame
- 1:18seeds and pragueing are poppy seeds and sapir.
- 1:23That's either peas or string beans or whatever it is anyways,
- 1:27and that category, and I'll just point out now, most nuts grow on
- 1:33trees. So that's this is not an issue
- 1:36for most nuts at all, right? There's no Kilae Elon except for
- 1:42Hakakava, right? Grafting or growing them in the
- 1:46ground, one on top of the other could also be a form of
- 1:49grafting. OK, that we learned before the
- 1:513rd category where we call them seeds of the garden.
- 1:56Zarne Gina. That refers to the seeds of any
- 2:00food plant where it's your produce you eat the vegetable or
- 2:05the green. Will it read the examples right?
- 2:08Leaves when you eat that, but the seed is separate.
- 2:13The seed is not what's eaten. That's the all right, let's
- 2:17let's read this quickly read that inside onions and garlic
- 2:22and carrots are same thing We it's the vegetable or grows in
- 2:27the ground. But the seed is not in the
- 2:31vegetable. It's outside the vegetable.
- 2:33It's in the flour that's above the ground that's at the head of
- 2:36the stock. OK, so it's what was that again?
- 2:43Tomatoes, tomatoes. It's a tomato.
- 2:46Good question. I'm assuming that's under OK0
- 2:51Nagina. OK is there a khatzir leek left
- 2:55it turnip OK, I think that suffices growing planting
- 3:04flowers together right. That's not edible food.
- 3:07So there's no problem with that either.
- 3:10Let's see what else do we want to just point out from yesterday
- 3:13or we will continue just OK, we're going to read it and we're
- 3:17starting to read dial it. I'll just point out Zara
- 3:22Pishtan. OK, so I skipped mentioning
- 3:25Pishtan. Yeah, that's right.
- 3:26We mentioned that yesterday. So Zara Pishtan I wanted to
- 3:29point out. So that's referring to flax
- 3:31seed, which is also called linseed.
- 3:35People eat them. People use the oil from them and
- 3:38so it is a food. So it's a good question.
- 3:41You would think Zarah Pishtan, since you're eating the seeds,
- 3:44would be in the same category of legumes, but they're not.
- 3:48So 2, two reasons. And I don't know if I don't know
- 3:53if the scientific world calls it legumes or not, but halachically
- 3:58it's in the category of 0 and 8, Gina, because there's two
- 4:04issues. Most, at least it was in the
- 4:07olden days, I don't know about now.
- 4:09Most flax was planted not for consumption, not for eating.
- 4:15It was planted for making clothing or whatever else you're
- 4:19going to ropes and whatever else you're going to use the flax
- 4:21for. So since the seeds was the main
- 4:24purpose, was not for food, it doesn't have the same.
- 4:27That's why it's in a different category and right, because it's
- 4:30really submordinate to the flaps that that we use.
- 4:35I'm I'm pretty sure that Alaka would certainly not change, but
- 4:39it and we can discuss later. But OK, maybe we'll leave it as
- 4:44a question. The other difference is, yeah,
- 4:47we're going to see Zerone Ghina people plant them in little
- 4:51patches, little rose like your vegetables.
- 4:55Pichedan, they're planted in big like like mustard, they're
- 5:00planted in big fields. So the way that it's grown is
- 5:04different. So those are two different
- 5:06reasons that are given in in the post game.
- 5:08I'm not sure if there's enough kamina.
- 5:10I'm not sure which is more primary.
- 5:12OK, so that's the address Pishtan, right?
- 5:16People eat the seeds whole or it's often ground into more of a
- 5:19powder and then it's even better to digest.
- 5:22OK, let's do dalid. When we read Dalid, I just
- 5:24wanted to point out to you in Khazal, when you see the word
- 5:27pre fruit, we call usually we call the word fruit.
- 5:30However, pre could either be a fruit from a tree or a vegetable
- 5:35from the ground. Really it's just depends what
- 5:37we're talking about. But pre applies to both Yarek
- 5:41vegetables. We usually I refer to Yarek as
- 5:44vegetables, but in Hazal it refers to both vegetables and
- 5:48greens. Any kind of a lettuce and end
- 5:50dives and all that is equally. So it depends what you're
- 5:53talking about. It's the an herb, whatever it
- 5:56is, all that is under the word Yarek, you're a coat.
- 6:00And I just wanted to point out also one last thing we learned
- 6:03by Kili, Kili Karen, it's us or if you already had Kili, a
- 6:09Karen, so that now the if something became Kili Karen and
- 6:12the food becomes us or both in Hanah and Akhila.
- 6:16It certainly narrates yourself. But if Kili is rhyme with the
- 6:20evet it usur to plant right and usur to be makayem.
- 6:25But you're allowed to eat it if it already grew.
- 6:28Yeah. OK, let's go on.
- 6:30OK, let's go on Dalid. So now you plant the these seeds
- 6:37in the ground. So as long as it's growing, you
- 6:39grow at some kulo Kosamanchilonikara zera.
- 6:43Now when it's growing this and it's this plant, it's some
- 6:47that's growing if you can't see the seed.
- 6:51So then what you do see is either going to be a dasha
- 6:55herbage, whatever, some kind of a leaf, greens, venekra, or it
- 7:00could be called a yarek, a vegetable or a leaf, whatever.
- 7:05OK, the yeesh MI Zerone Gina, Zerone, sorry, yeesh Mizerone
- 7:12Gina Zeronim should darken these zero M&M sadot.
- 7:16Now Zerone Gina, it's sometimes you will grow a big fields with
- 7:23them can go and have Peachtun via chardal, the Aluni cream
- 7:27mini Zoraim and it's these are called types of seeds.
- 7:33The Yeesh Mizeroneghina Zerim sheder buniada mizeram Allah
- 7:38arugot arugot. And then you have another group
- 7:42that is you don't generally you grow them in small rows.
- 7:48Kegon patches, left it turnips, snow and radishes.
- 7:54Sardim, spinach, bitsillium, onion, kuspar, that's coriander
- 7:59or cilantro. Same thing.
- 8:02We have carpas, parsley. We have maruer called lettuce, U
- 8:05coyote bahen, the ELO nicarim minet yerakot.
- 8:10And all of these are called types of yerakot, right?
- 8:15Veggies or greens. OK, hey, let's go on Zerah
- 8:20Shenitarabo Zerah. OK, so how much seed turns it
- 8:26into the it's usser to plant Medin Kile, Zoraim, Emaya Ehrhad
- 8:32Mehsrin, the arba. So the magic number is if it's
- 8:37less than 124th, I don't know if butthole's the right word, but
- 8:41if it's less than 124th, such a tiny amount, then it's it's it's
- 8:45a motor to plant it lechatile. You don't have to do anything if
- 8:49the ratio because we say higher it's you can have more than one
- 8:53and 24th, it's not more than 124th of the two items one to
- 8:59the other. So then we have a problem of
- 9:02kilaezarium and it's Asur 2 plant Kegon SE ashalkhitim
- 9:07shanit arva B ESRIM Vishalosh SE ashal SE orim areza asuri zora
- 9:15eterna urov. So let's say you have a big bag
- 9:19of wheat, right, wheat kernels. So in there is the seed of the
- 9:23of the wheat. And so you have these wheat
- 9:27kernel, a big bag of 23 say ah, OK.
- 9:32And then you have a small bag of one say ah of barley.
- 9:36So the mixture of wheat and barley is kill I am.
- 9:41So if you have 23 to 1, then that's a problem.
- 9:47Exactly. 24 to 1 is a problem also.
- 9:50OK, Hariza. All right, Hariza, Sir Lisroa
- 9:54Attema Urov. And I'll just point out in the
- 9:57mission that it has to 1 saya. He needs to be less than 1/4
- 10:04cuff. I'm just pointing it out because
- 10:06we're about to get into this. So give numbers of and cub.
- 10:10What you need to know is 1/6 cabin, 6 cabs.
- 10:15In English 6 cabin is 1. Say it's a measurement of volume
- 10:21and that's how you get 1 to 24. Well, it is 1 to 24.
- 10:25That's how you get 1/4 of a cob in the Mishnah.
- 10:28But the anyways the ratio is 1 to 24.
- 10:31If it's exactly that or greater, it's also it needs to be less
- 10:35than 124. Good.
- 10:37So then you can't take this mixture of seeds and throw it in
- 10:41the ground together to plant. You have to take either take
- 10:48away, right, because here you have one bag of Khitim.
- 10:52I may have said it the opposite, the smaller amount, you have to
- 10:55reduce it obviously, because and then or we'll see.
- 10:58Oh, you'll see. Or since you have the bigger bag
- 11:01of 23 barley, you have to add more to the barley.
- 11:05In other words, you have to end up with the correct less than
- 11:09that correct ratio, whatever that is.
- 11:11So it's less than 124. There's no problem being about
- 11:14design, right? There's no isser yet.
- 11:18So there's umm yet to be Mavato. You're adding on to Movado.
- 11:23OK, Mavato Akhila is normally a problem, but here it's not
- 11:27right? And the isser did it doesn't
- 11:28start until you plant and the isser ends with planting also
- 11:32because we're we're Makayan, the eve Zara.
- 11:35And if a person planted such a mixture right, he did it be a
- 11:38dying he did a physical act. So then you get malcus for it.
- 11:42Nicole Shahu kill I am IMA Zara midstar if the ehad mesrin, the
- 11:47arba and you if you have let's say you have three items.
- 11:52The example will explain you can have two minority of produce
- 11:55crops, whatever that are Midstar if to create a problem, right,
- 12:00if you have one, basically you need to have less than 124th.
- 12:04So if you have 148th and 148th, it could be a problem.
- 12:07Let's see Keitza Astrin V Arbaaz SE Ashe Kritin.
- 12:12You have 24 Kritin, all right, 24 of Kritin.
- 12:17So the big number is wheat. Shanid Arev bomb Schnee Kavin,
- 12:23sorry, Schnee Kavin on the ship. And you have two calves of sore
- 12:31and two calves of lentils of barley and lentils, right?
- 12:36So now you have Ushne carving, pooling and right because now
- 12:42you're going to end up with your and let's see, you have one.
- 12:46It becomes one set all together. 2 + 2 + 2 is 6.
- 12:49You have one set exactly, but all but your 1 to 24 that 124th
- 12:55is made-up of three different, so each one by itself, right?
- 13:02The barley to the wheat is less than 124th, the lentils to the
- 13:07wheat is less than 124th, and same thing with the beans.
- 13:11But together they become one. Say ah, are they misariv?
- 13:16Yes, hareza lo yezarah. You cannot plant them together.
- 13:20So in other words, you can't plant them all together.
- 13:25Why? Because each one to each other.
- 13:28Each of the minority items, the one, the two cabin, 2 cabin, 22
- 13:33cabin, each one of them is sad to each other.
- 13:36You can't take mixture of barley and plant it with lentils.
- 13:43So therefore, since they're they're climbed to each other,
- 13:47they add up against they can team up against the the week.
- 13:53If those three items, Allahukley, we add up all the
- 13:56minority together to team up against the big guy.
- 13:59Why? Because they're all enemies of
- 14:02each other, right? If they would all be friends of
- 14:04each other, if it be three species that are similar enough
- 14:09that there's no kill I am, then they're not midstar.
- 14:13If so, what do you do? You have to either or you're my
- 14:178 say ah shelter of it be a warm mix Seta or you see.
- 14:23So either you take away from the the combination that made-up
- 14:26one, say ah, you take away from one of those three, or you add
- 14:31on to the Khitim. She has sahurim, Vardashian,
- 14:33Vapo, Kulam, Kilayim, Imahitim. The three of them add up to be
- 14:38kilayim against the khitim. OK, I think we explained that.
- 14:43So let's go to vaf Vahmed Varim Memoriam Keshinita Arvumene to
- 14:49Vua Zebaze Amini kitniot. Zebaze.
- 14:55OK, right now we made it real simple, right?
- 14:59It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a volume 1 to 24.
- 15:03Basically, it doesn't go by weight.
- 15:05You take a, you take a bag of these seeds, you put it up
- 15:09against a bag of those seeds, you look at the volume.
- 15:12OK, either grain against grain, legumes against legumes.
- 15:18Oh, shunate arva tuvua bikitniot or kidney out bittua or so too
- 15:22Tuvua bikitniot. The concept, the measurements,
- 15:26it's all the same real simple. OK, now it's going to get a
- 15:28little more complicated and that's why it's you want to know
- 15:32the category of all zeroneghina. But when it comes to the seeds
- 15:37of the garden, right, the seeds are generally not the main item
- 15:42that you eat, is it? OK, Zeroneghina shinit arev
- 15:47ekhad mayhem batua. Now, if you take the seed, you
- 15:51want to grow flax. So you take flax seeds.
- 15:54So. Right, Just the seeds of the
- 15:56flax. Do you measure that up against
- 16:00the grain like we did before? You see how big the bag is?
- 16:03And it has to be 1 to 24. Not at all.
- 16:05It's a different calculation. We still are.
- 16:09Yeah. OK, let's keep reading.
- 16:10You have ekhad Mahembituhah or Bikitniot shuran.
- 16:14Ekhad Mahesrim, the arba mimache Zorim, the bait, say ah,
- 16:20milotomi. So when you're dealing with 0
- 16:22neg, you know, we still have that formula of 1 to 24, but
- 16:27you're not doing it by measuring the bag of seeds.
- 16:30It's a little bit different. So when it comes to let's say,
- 16:33so the prime example of wheat, in order to fill up an entire 50
- 16:41Amos by 50 Amos, it takes a saya, a bag the size of a saya
- 16:47of wheat. When you plant it on the ground,
- 16:50it'll fill up and be it'll fill up 50 by 50 angles.
- 16:55So in so in Khazal, many times you'll see the concept of bait
- 16:59say ah, it's an area of 50 by 50 because it comes from this say
- 17:03ah of wheat. Sometimes you'll see bait say
- 17:06time that's 50 by 100. OK, so how does that play out
- 17:10over here? It also means that even with RF
- 17:12bisaya shell to vua or kidney, you have a bag of saya.
- 17:18So that's our when it comes to to vua and kidney it we're using
- 17:22a saya. That's our magic number.
- 17:24So because that's what fills up a bait saya.
- 17:28So then loyisra achiyama act or yosif Allah to vua.
- 17:32Did I skip anything? No.
- 17:34Yeah, I'll just read it again. 2nd.
- 17:44So it's still 124th, but it's not this.
- 17:52You don't measure 124th of the volume of the seed.
- 17:57What you do is, you know, every item, every Zeronegina, every,
- 18:01every whatever crop, whatever you're going to plant is
- 18:05different. Some things you only need a
- 18:08little bit. 1 Cove which is 16 will fill up. 1 Cove of seeds
- 18:14will end up growing and filling up an entire bait.
- 18:19Say uh, 50 by 50 it could be much.
- 18:22The seeds are could be 6 times more potent or productive,
- 18:26whatever you want to call it. No.
- 18:28Well, the seeds could be smaller, but it'll produce.
- 18:31Yeah, yeah, but your bag, whatever is going to end up
- 18:35maybe it's more seeds even. OK, because they're smaller.
- 18:37It's more small. So it's smaller, but it depends
- 18:39what it is. Whatever it is, that's not the
- 18:41point. It might usually come out to be
- 18:44smaller. That's not the point that it'll
- 18:46fill up an entire beat, say up, which is 50 by 50.
- 18:51So then you'd look at that seeds, how much seeds is needed
- 18:54now for that? It needs to be 124th, right?
- 18:59So you have to just get rid of 20 almost.
- 19:04Oh yeah, it's almost. Anyways, almost a whole bag,
- 19:07124th, whatever that is. OK, fine.
- 19:12So let's read from the let's see from a couple examples.
- 19:15You're going to see Kitsat Maharter much less seeds, much
- 19:19less seeds will be a problem. A little bag.
- 19:21If it's two equal items, it would have been all right to
- 19:25blue and kidney. It would have been saya to saya
- 19:282 equal bags. And then you just got to make
- 19:30sure one of those bags is less. You remove most of one of those
- 19:33bags so it's less than 124. If you have a potent bag of some
- 19:38seed, We'll see an example maybe Kardal.
- 19:42What are we about to get to? You need one little bag.
- 19:46It will be just as will be compared to that one Southeast a
- 19:50bag, which is huge difference and then you still need to have
- 19:53124th removed of that little bag.
- 19:56So it's makes it much more Mahmir Keitzad Kardal.
- 20:01Let's say you have mustard seeds Shanit are betevua and you're
- 20:05mixing them in. You're mixing them with seeds of
- 20:08Tevua, the kernels, whatever the Hooray.
- 20:11A Kardal Zerimi menu Kaab Biko bait say.
- 20:14Ah, but one Kaab will. Grow to fill up an entire bait,
- 20:19say ah, so therefore in it are the menu Echad master in there.
- 20:24But I'm in a Cove the say I shall to vua shall can you have
- 20:27the mind? So if you have 124th of a cub,
- 20:33that's one cub produces the same as a Seya of wheat.
- 20:36So if you have 124th of this cub right now, it's still a problem.
- 20:41Just leave in mind it's a tiny bit as if you drop less than
- 20:44124th of a cub, which is much smaller, right?
- 20:47It's a 6th the size of a Seya. OK, the thing EMI Amin Mizerne
- 20:53Ginaz Cesori Emmanuel Satayim Nicole Bait say ah, let's say it
- 20:58would be twice as potent. So then emmit Arimenu Khetzikov
- 21:05because say Asha tua Ashokini dumite.
- 21:08So then even it would have to be 124th of a Khetzikov the FICA to
- 21:14vua shmit arifa zarah Pishtan now Pishtan it also it require
- 21:21it makes this is much weaker. Kardal's much stronger, the
- 21:25Pishtan's much weaker. So therefore you need to have
- 21:30Emaya shloshit revealed the cosi Arziomite the maximum.
- 21:35It's not 124th of a cough, but it could be three quarter up to
- 21:39just less than 3/4 of a cough. Why?
- 21:43But the imlab Imatsarikhomite, if it's less than 3/4 of the cob
- 21:46instead of 124th, it's a problem.
- 21:49The fee, Well, if it's less than 3/4, it's OK.
- 21:52The fee should bait Zorambo, Shalosh, Sein, Zara, Pishtan
- 21:57because in order to fill up 50 by 50 Amos field, you don't Kita
- 22:01just takes 1 seiyam, but Pishtan takes 3 seas, so it's takes a
- 22:07lot more. Well, which is and pushtan are
- 22:11actually smaller, right? Flax seeds are smaller than the
- 22:14kernels. So you see just the opposite of
- 22:18right Bin lakuma bien akula fine, well, Derek Zen mesharian
- 22:22Mccool Hazran and therefore and then and that's how we calculate
- 22:27everything. We have a couple modifiers, but
- 22:29here's one. Zain Bahmidwari Memoriam
- 22:32Micheloni. This is this is the shear that
- 22:38has to be less than 124. That's if you didn't have in
- 22:41mind they already got mixed in and then you didn't want to mix
- 22:46them in. This is what you brought up
- 22:47earlier. You didn't want to mix them in.
- 22:49They got mixed in. So now can you plant it or not?
- 22:53Oh Michelonit Kavan Lizroa Shami mini machinit Arvo Michelikavan
- 22:59Nisroa, you didn't have qivana to mix and to plant Ava IME it
- 23:06carven are Zara bezara acher if your intention is to mix them
- 23:11and then plant them Oh lizrawa either way, hashmi mean you're
- 23:17right where you got the mixture in your hand and now you want to
- 23:19plant it. So I feel now that the mixture's
- 23:22in your hand Afilo haitakita, wait a SEC.
- 23:26That's my new clarification. I feel I talkita akhtak Kerry,
- 23:30even if you have a heap and a huge heap of cerima barley and
- 23:36you have 1 little hita in there, it's much less than 124 and you
- 23:40see it there, a sewer lizora. You're not allowed to plant an
- 23:43entire heap. The Fein Co Coyote SE Baza.