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  Coming to you live from deep within a pollen infested treat Ejaculate wasteland. We
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  I'll tell you one seventy one. One seventy one. Did Ethan destroy
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  Pearl? Let's take it a look at her debate game. Oh yes,
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  yes, So, I don't know if you've noticed Karen Pearl is currently being
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  sort of dogpiled on Twitter. I have, I haven't. I don't follow
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  her on Twitter, so I haven't noticed. But but yeah, she's she'd
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  be a prime target. Yeah, it usually happens if you if you become
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  like pretty popular and you're talking about men, like in any way you know
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  that happens. Oh No, you're gonna You're gonna get it from all sides.
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  You're gonna get like the role of tamasis, who are like you're just
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  a faker, yeah, ivery book that. Yeah, and then you're gonna
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  get like the the people who are like all of the feminists are definitely gonna
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  be after you, um and that, and then some of the big towels
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  and some of it in cells, and some of the men's rights people will
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  be like, I don't trust her. Yeah, so of course you're you're
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  generally gonna get it from all sides. I mean, like, I was
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  lucky I had, you know, Paul elam uh kind of in my corner,
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  so I didn't get it too bad from the men's rights people. But
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  yeah, talking about nobody knows who the hell I am. Oh sometime,
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  but she's talking about again sorry sorry, talking about men's rights people, talking
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  about anything to do with men and sex and society is just like, yeah,
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  yeah, you're you're gonna get it from multiple corners. Yeah. Interestingly,
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  she's getting it from Michael Peterson and um no, sorry, her last
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  name is something different. I don't remember what, but but Jordan Peterson's daughter,
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  Jordan Peterson's daughter and law and Southern. Yeah, well that's just cattiness.
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  What's what I mean, What's what's Michaela's problem? I kind of know
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  Lauren Southern story because she had this big, like confession video, and I
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  think that it's probably got something to do with why I failed, why I
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  failed to live up to my principles and how a man is to blame,
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  Yeah, why I failed to live up to my principles and how this is.
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  This is not unique because everybody does this and we will all been fooled
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  and the wolves been pulled over everyone eyes. So I'm not unique in any
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  way. You know. That's the the whole video, and I was annoyed
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  with it. Um, but I just said, okay, fine, there
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  are people who just had too much pride to just simply say I fucked up,
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  and that's just the norm now. So whatever. But I don't know
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  what Michaelas thing is. I mean, MICHAELA can't exactly um, you know,
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  claim to be some kind of pillar of integrity either because of the shit
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  that she's done. But um, but yeah, I don't. I don't
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  know what their issue with Pearl is. Okay, So this is this is
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  sort of what it seems like. You you espouse a set of principles as
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  a public traditional like traditionalist or traditional woman, and then when you fail to
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  uphold them, you blame men, You blame the principles themselves, like they
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  were supposed to give you a perfect life. No, they're just principles to
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  navigate an imperfect life. Yeah, and then you hopefully a better one than
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  otherwise. Yeah. Yeah, and then you go after a traditional a person
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  who's who's espousing these traditionalist virtues or and hasn't screwed their life up yet,
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  and you make them a target. Yeah that's an I guess, an uncharitable
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  version. But what I was seeing was things like Pearl was quoting, things
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  like looking at men's jobs versus women's jobs, which one is more important to
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  the continuance of society? Okay, this is this is just plain reality.
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  Well if if, if, if the job that we're talking about is keeping
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  homes and raising children, then I would argue that, you know, woman's
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  work is just as important because women are in the primary position of being able
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  to do that work. They're just in that a better position to be able
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  to do that. I recognizes that. Okay, but but no, but
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  no, that's not That's not what it is. You know, like you
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  don't need a teacher, you can teach your own children. You know.
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  Say, what I was going to say is that's not what's being talked about.
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  I mean, we go back one hundred and fifty years and ask whole
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  if women are essential, Well, yes, if women talked away from their
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  jobs, one hundred and fifty years ago, everybody dies, all right,
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  because they were that important. They were making sure houses were heated and podible
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  water they had in the winter. You know, they were critical to their
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  communities. Now not so much, because UM utilities have taken over most of
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  the roles that women used to do and most of the services that we women
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  used to provide in the home. And now they're doing things that are actually
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  fairly optional, whereas men's jobs are not or even even damaging. Men walk
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  off the job for a day, and we're probably looking at like a ten
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  twenty percent population loss at some point. Yeah, all the systems that are
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  going to break down almost instantly, okay, Oh yeah, No, like
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  being married to somebody who actually manages one of those systems, right, like
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  UM essential utility for it at at one point, for an entire UM a
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  utility that supplies half of the continent with something, okay, And he was
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  managing sort of the alarms and all of the you know, all of the
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  systems that you know, keep all of that going. And if you had
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  a twenty minute outage that was like a sixty eight million dollar loss to the
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  company. And if you had an issue, right like there was this guy
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  they you know, when they did all their safety training and everything during you
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  know, their first six months, they would all have to do like comprehensive
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  safety training, and they would always give this example of this one guy who
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  just kind of there was an important problem that should have been looked after right
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  away, but he didn't feel like doing it. He stuck it on a
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  back burner and didn't tell anybody that it was a problem and just didn't look
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  after it. And then six people died horribly and they weren't employees either.
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  They were children, children out playing. And yeah, no, and that
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  guy not only did the company get sued for millions and millions of dollars,
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  but that guy went to prison. Yeah. And so if you think,
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  if you multiply that by all of the men who are doing this kind of
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  work, and incidentally, women who do this kind of work say the same
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  thing, Oh yeah, they will openly say, no, this is ridiculous,
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  this idea of a female. No, this is ridiculous. And also
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  I would rather have men around doing these jobs because because you freaking imagine what
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  the life of a woman who's in these utilities would become if the men left.
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  Oh, yeah, no, well I'm all the body be torn to
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  pieces by all the irate women. But here's the thing though, right,
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  Like, because my husband is basically he is mirror co worker is closest to
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  one, and the one who has the same title and basically the same position
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  was hired about the same time. And she's she's actually quite great. She's
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  very competent. She takes on different tasks than him. She actually they fill
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  in the gaps on each other's spreadsheets very purpose perfectly, like in terms of
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  talent, aptitudes stuff like that. Right, Like, she she does a
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  lot of the spotting tiny problems before they become big problems, right because she's
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  just she's just like clerically just absolutely brilliant. Like she can read lines and
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  lines and lines of what I call gibberish and spot one typo and go like,
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  okay, here's a problem, let's fix it, and or one thing
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  that's a little off, right, Whereas he's the one who does like the
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  big project work and like you know, does all of the We're gonna do
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  like a major migration from this system to that system, and and so I
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  got to set everything up and I'm gonna like, you know, you all
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  of these different tools to do it right. So, I mean, like,
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  but even in those situations, even though they have basically the same job
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  title and the same education and skill level, right, she takes on a
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  more clerical, administrative, female oriented type of work, and he does the
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  adventuresome you know, like, let's go boldly and explore type of work.
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  To make sure the parachute is folded properly. He gets out, he jumps
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  out of the plane. There you go. What a freaking surprise. And
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  it sounds like being male and female in this instance produces a good team that's
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  doing good work. It's almost like we evolved to work together. Oh my
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  gosh in just these ways. Oh man. But yeah, we should get
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  into the video. I think you want to do a little preamble about Yeah,
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  I'm gonna do the preamble. I just want to conclude. Um,
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  So essentially what happened. Aside from the little digression there, um Pearl asserted
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  that men's jobs are more critical to the running of society at this point in
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  time than women's. She is one, right, okay, and then she
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  also, like in response, Lauren Southard said, but women motivate men,
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  And I was like reading this, tweeting them like, Okay, Lauren,
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  if women motivate men, are they then responsible for the fact that there is
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  a serious crisis of motivation for in men in our society. Do they then
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  have to step up and solve that problem? I don't think you're gonna say
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  that so simultaneously men. Women are responsible for motivating men, but if men
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  aren't motivated, it's their own fault. No, you no, that doesn't
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  spass the sniff test. But regardless, she said, And then Pearl in
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  response said, do you are you really arguing that if women disappeared, men
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  wouldn't continue to do their jobs to you know, go on adventures to pedestalize
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  femboys. She didn't say that part um, you know, they wouldn't continue
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  to do what they're doing. And she's like, I don't And she did
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  a poll. Do you think that men would continue to do what they're doing?
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  Yes or no? I would say yes, they would continue to do
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  I mean, obviously it's going to be limited because you won't have another generation
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  unless you have really good reproductive technology, but they probably would. However,
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  there may grow a class a female impersonator and femboy that becomes the you know,
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  the vulnerable center. Okay, the beautiful what what? Okay? But
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  you know what you might actually get is what you get when a bunch of
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  you know, adolescent male guerrillas or elephants or lions get booted out of the
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  group, right, And you just get a bunch of bachelors who hang out
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  to get and they get along great, and they groom each other and they
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  and there's no fighting and that, and they team up and they they do
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  work collectively, whether it's hunting or protecting the group or or or whatever.
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  Right, Like, they hang out together and and band together for survival,
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  and they cooperate, right. And it's only when you introduce a female that
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  things start to fall apart socially among these bachelor pods. Right. So it's
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  you know, like you you might actually have a situation where the men actually
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  co operate more. Yeah, it's possible. But I mean, look at
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  the real lord of the flies. The kids, oh the kids off of
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  New Zealand. Yeah, they all got dessert on a deserted island. They
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  practically made a little utopia for themselves. But the overall point is she tweeted
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  this stuff. MICHAELA. Peterson Michaela or whatever her last name is now responded
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  with, this is hateful, and I responded with, it doesn't matter if
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  it's hateful. It matters whether or not it's true or false. Yeah,
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  Like what that tone policy I'm getting from MICHAELA. I mean it is not
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  surprising. Yeah, well, but it doesn't freaking matter. No, it
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  doesn't it with reality, and we are rapidly coming. I don't know if
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  these women realize it, but it's me. It's mean. We gotta usher
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  in the apocalypse. Wise, people might get their feelings heard. People can
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  talk about hitting the wall. Our culture is getting to that point. Yeah,
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  and we can't keep lying to ourselves about it because it's hateful or mean.
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  Pearl wasn't saying anything as far as I can tell, that was false,
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  or at least it had enough of a germ of a truth that it
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  should be entertained and spoken about. Absolutely, And yet she's getting slammed even
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  think I don't even think it's comprom and it's nothing that me or Camil Palia
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  haven't said a million times. Yeah, like Camille Pollia controversial, no's but
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  that's just it. That's what I'm saying. Like, Yeah, and we
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  can give women credit for anything that they are willing to step up and take
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  responsibility for it. And I will say that to Lauren Southern. If women
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  are willing to step up and take responsibility for the fact that men we have
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  a crisis of motivation in our society and they're willing to put their backs to
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  fixing that, then they get credit for it, and not a moment sooner.
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  M Okayiel, we're gonna get into the video. Okay, go ahead,
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  Yeah, we'll get into the video. All right. So we are
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  doing a monthly fundraiser, which is always a sort of an anxiety inducing time
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  for us. But we would if if we are to be able to continue
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  to say the stuff in the way that we say it, which more and
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  more I'm really realizing is completely unique. It really people really have an adversion
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  to saying, yeah, women have to step up and take responsibility and maybe
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  that they are the only ones to do it, and if they don't,
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  well we're going to be dealing with a lot of shit. This seems to
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  be like a message that most people don't want to hear. Their adverse to
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  it. We have been pushing this for ten years now, almost and we
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  need to keep going, can't stop now because this message is needed more than
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  ever and we need to be uncompromising on it. It is not misogyny to
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  say that women need to take responsibility for their influence over society. And get
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  this, women have a huge influence over society. Lauren Southern is right.
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  What she's wrong in is thinking that women deserve credit for something you're going to
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  take responsibility for you don't, okay, And this is a message that really
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  we really need right now. Unfortunately, it's not one that seems to be
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  very popular because people would prefer to blame men, or people would prefer to
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  just walk away instead of expecting women to take responsibility. So if you want
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  yeah, twisting, Okay, maybe one day we'll break through whatever like
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  wald Womb were stuck inside of that. We can't seem to reach people,
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  but we can. We guess gott to keep plugging away. So all right,
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  a little bit of backstory, serious, yeah, and nobody's talking about
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  this, yeah, or or they're they're being dealt with in the way that
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  that Ethan came after Pearl in this conversation. So a little bit of backstory.
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  Ethan Klein used to be a comedy YouTuber. He would do these sketches.
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  It was very popular, but for whatever reason he slowed down stopped.
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  I don't know, I didn't really follow him very closely. Then he started
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  doing a podcast called Off the Rails, and he became very close to Hassan
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  Piker, who you guys might know as the man who said MRA's men's rights
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  activists, our machines. Um. Hassan is the nephew to jenk Yuger of
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  the Young Turks, So you could see, like, if you're drawing the
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  line, you can see the relationship across the board here. And so Hassan
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  has been um, well, I'm gonna put it bluntly, grooming Ethan into
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  his sort of like you know, worldview at while he does like these like
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  late night long Twitch streams where he propagandizes his whole audience on communism and feminism
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  and other things like related to that. And so Ethan has been like entering
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  this kind of battlefield. And I remember at one point, just you know,
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  to give you guys a little bit of a summary of like the exploits
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  that Ethan's been on, he was invited I think he was invited onto Stephen
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  Crowder's show when Crowder was still on YouTube. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  to debate him on something I can't remember what it was. Debate him
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  one on one. Yeah and yeah, and Ethan brought Sam Cedar with Yeah,
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  he brought Sam Cedar with him, and sam Cedar tried to hijack the
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  conversation and Crowder did not appreciate the way that that went down, and so
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  he kicked him. And U know that. So that was one attempt.
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  So basically I'm telling you this because Ethan is not He's just trying to score
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  political points and so and he's a sneaky fucker. Yeah, and he's a
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  sneaky fucker, and he's a dishonest like these are all dishonest people. Did
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  you see, Karen, did you see the thing with what's her name from
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  the Majority report on timpoole um just a couple of days ago, and then
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  what go ahead? I can't remember her name, but you know she was
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  she was on the Majority report. And there was another thing that also happened
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  that was really frustrating too. So there's these people are not honest actors.
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  They don't have an interest in doing this like, you know, having a
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  real discussion. They want to score political points. They want to like panterns
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  to their audience. They want to get clicks, they want to get like
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  you know, clips cut out and so they can make money. So this
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  is all a griff. They don't have an interest in doing this for real.
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  I'm just putting it out there. I don't care what people say.
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  They are dishonest, So just prepare yourself. Because Pearl, she's I like
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  what she does and I think that she has good intentions. And I know
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  that some people say she's a grifter, but by that logic, we're grifters
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  too, because she makes money doing something that she could just be be.
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  She could just be doing feminist shit and making way more money, but she's
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  not. So you know, it's it's not I don't think that's what's going
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  on here, but I do think that Pearl has never really had to deal
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  with extremely manipulative bad actors in discussions, and so that's what this is.
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  So let's go ahead. We're gonna start from a section. It's short,
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  it's about ten minutes, which means that show is gonna be about three hours,
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  and it's it is entitled why are you Defending men? And this is
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  where Ethan's trying to understand why Pearl would have the gall to defend men like
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  it's such a ridiculous thing to do. Right, So let's take a listen
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  to the first few and by the way, the colors have been shifted by
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  me so that we can get a little bit of protection and also sped up
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  the playback a little bit also just for further insurance. So or here we
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  go. But what does bluepilled? I mean, um, people that see
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  the world for how they'd like like it to be. I guess, okay,
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  I don't. I don't talk about much about I guess like bluepill.
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  But yeah, okay, fair enough, we don't. We don't have to
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  focus in on that. So I've noticed that one of the primary focuses of
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  your content is kind of the problems facing men and how there's so much unfair
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  societal pressures or norms or expectations on men. Um. Why is it that
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  you're so singularly focused on the troubles of men? All right, I'm just
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  pausing it there for the banana, I think I thought it was a good
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  place. Well, I could do you have any do you have any answers?
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  You know? Okay, I could answer for myself. Yeah, Well,
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  number one because we need men. Number two because we've marginalized them so
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  horribly. Number three because we're losing them, and number four because we need
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  them. Right, and then on top of that, what are we going
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  to do when our grandchildren's money runs out? Right, Because that's how we're
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  paying for all of this shitting on men and artificially propping up women is with
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  our grandchildren's freaking Like, my kids were born with each and this is Canada,
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  this isn't the US, so we aren't in as big of trouble as
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  you guys down in the States. Right, they were each born with between
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  thirty and fifty five thousand dollars in poor kid okay, government debt, right,
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  and that doubled during COVID doubled. Okay, So my kids, who
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  are responsible with money, who pay their taxes, who have savings, right,
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  their children are going to be born with twice or thrice or even four
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  times the debt that my kids were born with, right, yeah, yeah,
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  And who's that pain for? Who's that benefiting? Well? No,
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  this pan it's paying for women. It's paying for women, yes, and
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  it's also okay, and it's not even doing any good if I could see
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  it, if it was actually beneficial to women and children, but it's not.
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  It's counterproductive. It makes less productive children, less productive women less productive
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  men are going to say, yeah, I wanted to add to that,
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  like, I'm I'm totally I'm totally on board with agreeing that. To Lauren's
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  Southern statement that women motivate men, however, they need to take responsibility for
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  it, well, they should also probably start motivating them too, because they're
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  not really doing that either. You want you want to motivate a man,
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  how about this, go off welfare and say, honey, I depend on
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  you, okay, and I'm gonna work part time to help out. But
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  yeah, because your family, your family, me, your wife, and
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  these children who are yours depend on you. How about that? Yeah,
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  nobody wants to say. They don't even want to say it in the abstract.
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  By simply recognizing that men are are now basically responsible for maintaining our society,
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  Okay, they don't even want to recognize in the ad cost them nothing,
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  nothing but a little bit of gratitude and recognition of reality. And that's
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  hateful. Come give me a break. But let's let's just say that Lauren
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  Southerners, right, women are responsible for motivating men. This is the situation
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  we're in. She didn't say She didn't say women are responsible for motivating men.
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  She just said women motivate men. Well, honey, honey, not
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  for long, not for long, and not for nothing. Okay, But
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  moving on, how this works in the situation of increasing this this like,
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  we're we're going down this hill and our debt snowball is getting bigger and bigger
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  and bigger. Debt. You know, going into debt is borrowing on future
• 26:32
  labor, future productivity. So by borrowing on our grandchildren's products, we are
• 26:37
  borrowing on their productivity at the same time as we are destroying the productivity of
• 26:44
  our society. Yeahs. And we're using the money that we're borrowing from our
• 26:49
  grandchildren's productivity to make sure to ensure that they will not be productive. Yes,
• 26:56
  we're we're basically slitting our own throats. And here's here's what I would
• 27:00
  say. It's not just that women motivate men. It's also that if you
• 27:06
  look at hunter gatherer societies, men motivate women. Yeah, the best gatherer,
• 27:12
  the most efficient gatherer, the one who can create the best standard of
• 27:18
  living in her hut, goes to the best hunter. So in that in
• 27:22
  those scenarios where you're living at the razors edds of survival. You get men
• 27:26
  and women to motivate each other, But how can men motivate women when they're
• 27:32
  seen as less than like a net negative, were worse than worthless. Yeah
• 27:41
  no, it's not like we're destroying men's motivation. You're destroying women's motivation.
• 27:48
  Like they literally, they literal maholic literally took the men's the conformity to uh
• 27:55
  masculine norm's inventory and pulled everything just per all of the positive traits stereotypes about
• 28:03
  men. Just just purge them off that list, right, because oh well,
• 28:08
  some women feel a pressure to be a breadwinner. Oh and some women
• 28:14
  feel a pressure to be a faithful partner, and oh well some women feel
• 28:19
  a pressure to be a good parent. Right, so we got to remove
• 28:25
  those off the masculine norms inventory, and all we're keeping is these negative qualities
• 28:32
  of and I will say immature males Gilgamesh before his Journey within kie do right,
• 28:41
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like to get you are going to
• 28:45
  say Shaka when the walls fell? No, no, but um but but
• 28:52
  basically like you, you have immature masculinity being portrayed by academia as the standards
• 29:02
  of masculinity that the culture demands. Right, And it's like, no,
• 29:11
  no, because even when you had a character in a forty five hundred year
• 29:17
  old story, probably older than that, it was just that was when it
• 29:22
  was written down, right, you had a character in that story who went
• 29:26
  through it through a huge strugglesome journey right to become to transcend those immature qualities
• 29:37
  of masculinity and become a responsible king, a responsible leader, a responsible man,
• 29:45
  generous, empathetic, kind, right, responsible, accountable. Yeah,
• 29:55
  it's the hero's journey of just again. You know, that's the thing that
• 30:00
  that makes um men. And yeah, I think that ever, they want
• 30:04
  everybody to be uh Seth rogan in like any of his movies. Basically they
• 30:10
  want they want everybody to be stuck in in like perpetual male adolescents. Yeah,
• 30:17
  the perpetual Gilgamesh, the detested King of Uruk, not the wise and
• 30:23
  just and responsible and empathetic and and kind King of Uruk that he became.
• 30:32
  Right. They those traits create something when they when they go through process of
• 30:37
  maturity, and this is true about women too, they create something beneficial to
• 30:41
  society when mature masculinity goes through the process of maturity, mature, masculine is
• 30:48
  incredibly important to society. And honestly, right now, the fact that men
• 30:55
  are responsible for the majority of our society, the the the the majority of
• 31:00
  keeping it running, means that they, by definition, have attained a greater
• 31:06
  level of maturity. Well yeah, definition doesn't even matter if they go more
• 31:11
  or more of them have it, or more of them have if there wasn't
• 31:15
  the lights on. By definition, they're mature. Because even even women who
• 31:21
  like take on you know who who do that is sort of the traditional female
• 31:26
  rules of you know, being a mother and a homemaker and you know all
• 31:30
  of those things, right, A lot of them aren't very responsible about it,
• 31:36
  right, Like the number of women that I know who spend more money
• 31:41
  than their family can afford. Who who spend it on frivolous things? Right?
• 31:48
  Who do not think of the future? Who who basically you remember when
• 31:53
  Trump techs cuts went went in and there were all these news programs talking to
• 32:00
  people who who felt like they were they they were paying more taxes, right,
• 32:07
  Like a bunch of people felt like they were paying more taxes. Well,
• 32:10
  it's because those taxes were not removed from there that the amount automatically deducted
• 32:20
  from their paychecks was less, right, the amount that they inevitably had to
• 32:27
  pay was less, but they were counting on the government to act on the
• 32:32
  irs, to act as a kind of de facto default savings plan. I
• 32:39
  I, you know, like, is I got four hundred dollars this year
• 32:44
  instead of the eighteen hundred dollars back I got all you know the last last
• 32:47
  five years. You know, I was planning on spending that on a vacation
• 32:51
  and now I can't. And it's like, well, what did you spend
• 32:55
  it on when it was on your paycheck? Yeah? Right right, Yeah,
• 33:00
  I lost. I lost that eighteen hundred dollars that the government gives back
• 33:04
  to me. I only got twenty five hundred dollars over the course of the
• 33:07
  year. Yeah, exactly, Yes, Um, can we can? We
• 33:12
  can we play the next bit? Yes? We've been in thirty seconds and
• 33:17
  we haven't even heard Pearl's answer, So all right, let's go Ethan so
• 33:24
  weird and twitchy? Why am I focused on the troubles of men? That's
• 33:31
  an interesting way to I guess phrase my content. Um, I would say,
• 33:37
  I think it's unfortunate what happens to men in divorce court. So that's
• 33:40
  probably why I talk about the most is I think that men should have access
• 33:43
  to their children. That's not what you talk about the most. You definitely
• 33:46
  talk about stuff like pay gap myth. You talk about men want younger girls.
• 33:51
  You talk about men are just doing what's in their nature. You talk
• 33:52
  about women who have higher body count are less desirable. I haven't, I'll
• 33:57
  be honest. I've thought. I watched a lot of your stuff, and
• 33:58
  the vast majority is not about divorce court. It's about this kind of like
• 34:00
  dating coach stuff. Oh fuck off, if you if you said that in
• 34:08
  front of me, I swear to God you if you bullied someone like that
• 34:13
  in front of me, I don't know. I would know. All I
• 34:17
  gotta all I gotta say is it's all connected, Ethan. You see all
• 34:23
  of those issues are connected. But did you see how he told her?
• 34:30
  What she what she talks about, Yeah, what she talks about. What
• 34:34
  you are seeing is her most popular content. And this is something that we
• 34:38
  have a problem with two Hello like, oh, your your your content is
• 34:43
  all about rage. I'm like, no, we have all kinds of content.
• 34:45
  That's what you have seen because it's the most popular and it gets shared
• 34:51
  around. She most likely is exactly accurate when she says that her content,
• 34:57
  or at least her content, that is most important to her. This is
• 35:00
  another thing, the one that motivates her the most. Right that it doesn't
• 35:04
  necessarily mean the one she talks about the most. It's the one, the
• 35:09
  one that she considers most important, and often the one that she most likely
• 35:15
  spent the most time in researching is likely on that subject. So to her,
• 35:20
  that subject is the is the biggest. I mean, is there not
• 35:24
  a relationship between dating and divorce and body count and body count? Yes?
• 35:32
  Yes, And there's all you know, there's I'm not sure about like young
• 35:37
  and pretty. I think that's just I mean, that kind of stuff gets
• 35:39
  a lot of attention. So I bet that he hasn't looked at enough.
• 35:45
  I'm sure he hasn't. Her streams are like three hours four hours long.
• 35:50
  I don't. I'm I'm certain that he hasn't watched as much as he claims.
• 35:52
  I think he saw clips that get shared around. They're not from her
• 35:57
  main channel or something like that. Maybe some shorts you know, yeah,
• 36:01
  because or or because because they get shared around, because everybody is the most
• 36:07
  outraged by them right, and and you know even even the men like young
• 36:14
  pretty women thing right that could actually be dating coach. Advice for women,
• 36:22
  Lose a little weight, you know, yeah where where clothes that are flattering
• 36:29
  to your figure. Don't overdo the makeup. Um, have have nice hair,
• 36:37
  right and maybe a pleasant disposition. Give that a try. I know
• 36:43
  it's hard. Well he's that's again. You know, it's important to remember
• 36:46
  that Ethan's not here to hear out Pearl's ideas and maybe entertain something some different
• 36:53
  perspective. He is here to essentially like dunk on her really hard, make
• 36:59
  her looks stupid. Um, you know, point out whatever. It's the
• 37:01
  same thing. It's like Charlie kirk debate debated, um uh Hassan Piker at
• 37:08
  like a sepack thing, and it got so heated that jenk was was in
• 37:13
  the audience and and like they he and Charlie Kirker bought to box, you
• 37:16
  know, like they it got really heated and um, but it's but the
• 37:20
  reason is because what these people do is why I'm bringing this up, you
• 37:22
  know, like that's why I brought up I bring up people like Ethan and
• 37:28
  what's her name? From Majority Report Emma Vigland, Emma Land, that's her
• 37:32
  name, and uh and Hassan, Like their whole tactic is they get on
• 37:37
  the stream with you. You know, Hunter Avalon does this and their their
• 37:40
  goal is to get you to lose your cool because then you lose your cool
• 37:45
  and they go, why are you triggered, snowflake? And then that goes
• 37:47
  up as a clip and everybody goes, ah, the ha ha. Those
• 37:51
  those people with their bad ideas, right, and so so like just you
• 37:55
  know, if you ever go on a podcast like this, and I'm not
• 38:00
  saying you shouldn't, but do not lose your cool, Like I know that
• 38:04
  their goal is to make you angry, and that's all they want to do
• 38:07
  is get you to flip out, because you know they're lying to you to
• 38:10
  your face and they're smiling, and that is enough to drive you up the
• 38:15
  wall. But yeah, the one, the one time I lost my cool,
• 38:19
  it was it was I was just so grateful that the audience was nail
• 38:23
  Wolf. Yeah yeah, yeah, And I was just like, okay,
• 38:30
  okay, can we just admit that it was shipped for everybody? Right?
• 38:36
  Yeah? And the audience applauded, and I was just like, oh,
• 38:39
  thank god. Yeah, yeah, right, that's a bullet because I lost
• 38:45
  I lost my cool and sometimes that well most of the time, that'll just
• 38:52
  go totally sideways for you. Okay, I gotta I got a super chat
• 38:58
  and a super chow, so I'm gonna read those really quick. So we
• 39:00
  got a super child from Anonymous for fifty bucks. Thank you so much for
• 39:06
  that. Yeah, that's nice. Alright, alright, alright, and Anonymous
• 39:10
  gives us fifty and says, remember when in Australia the women at the rail
• 39:15
  transit company took a female solidarity day off work and almost nothing noticeable was different,
• 39:20
  but when thirty seven mail train drivers were off for a day, the
• 39:22
  company practically halted. Um I do I do remember that. That that that
• 39:29
  feels like it was a while ago, but I do remember. Does anybody
• 39:32
  remember Swedish anti sexist snow plowing. Oh yeah, right, yes, I
• 39:38
  remember that too. We're gonna we're gonna do the sidewalks and the bike lanes
• 39:45
  before we do the transit routs and the main arteries for trying because because women,
• 39:52
  women use the sidewalks and the bike lanes to walk their babies and the
• 39:57
  strollers. And yeah, get to the corner store doing all the clearings.
• 40:02
  So if you's some men doing over plowing, they couldn't get to their freaking
• 40:07
  clouds. Like two witches of snow paralyzed the entire city. We just followed,
• 40:14
  which is followed putting women first set snow removal. Yeah, okay that
• 40:24
  I got a super chat from Johnny Boy quick Draw for five bucks and they
• 40:29
  say, I think chunky yogurt is still waiting for a sandwich. Karen get
• 40:31
  on that the buffalo shall suckle from the teet of the pale skin Cherokee proverb.
• 40:37
  Yeah it sounds legitimately Cherokee. Well, yeah, it does sound Cherokee.
• 40:44
  But um, maybe I will video myself making a sandwich for a ham
• 40:52
  sandwich. He did say a ham sandwich. Yes, it'll be one of
• 40:59
  the things Muslim. But well, okay. But one of the things that
• 41:07
  really despise about the feminist ideology is how it negates women's right to their own
• 41:14
  minds like that is actually have you ever heard the song Lady Hell. That
• 41:19
  is right out of Lady Hell. Women telling other women, oh, you
• 41:22
  don't know your own mind? Like that is the most abusive crap, well
• 41:29
  not the most, but it's pretty high up there in terms of being really
• 41:32
  shitty to take away someone's like autonomy or the perception that their actions and their
• 41:39
  thoughts are their own. Yeah, it's like a form of psychological smothering.
• 41:45
  And you know this guy, he's engaging in that kind of behavior. He's
• 41:52
  denying Pearls right to speak on herself. And like, when you do this.
• 42:00
  The thing is that this is what I've noticed. Feminist men will engage
• 42:04
  in this kind of abusive behavior towards women who don't agree with them. They'll
• 42:08
  deny their personhood, they will deny the right to be seen as having their
• 42:14
  own choices in mind, and they'll do all of this kind of what I
• 42:19
  would term very misogynist abuse. I'm willing to say that that's misogynists. To
• 42:22
  deny a woman the right to have her perceived as her own person is misogyny
• 42:28
  in my opinion. So he's engaging in misogynist abuse. You'll see this from
• 42:31
  feminist men. What I've noticed is you don't see this from the right,
• 42:37
  Like even Jordan Peterson for all of his faults that you know, like going
• 42:42
  after the Magtel, which he did apologize for in other things, like men
• 42:45
  should conform to women. Well that I think that's a bit ridiculous. He
• 42:49
  goes too far with that, in my opinion. Yeah, he never has
• 42:52
  done that, like all of the right, the far right, or like
• 42:58
  what they call the far right, all of the all of the non persons.
• 43:00
  You mean, yeah, no, you don't do that. We don't
• 43:06
  like did you go to Naomi Wolf and say, wow, you just don't
• 43:08
  understand your own mind, Niomi hack Horde. No, you kept it to
• 43:15
  the fucking facts. Yeah, an emotional argument, like can't we just admit
• 43:20
  that everybody had it shit shit? It was bad for everyone. Nobody was
• 43:24
  nobody. Men were not lording women, women were not lording it over men.
• 43:30
  It was just a shit situation up until industrialization. And everybody has so
• 43:35
  much shit now, Okay, I didn't even even for most people throughout industrialization,
• 43:39
  Yes, through most people, and particularly for a lot of men,
• 43:44
  because they ended up dying in a lot of that infrastructure projects, and a
• 43:46
  lot of a lot of kids too, who ended up playing fingers at saw
• 43:52
  mills and shit canning facilities. The row point is that I have never seen
• 43:59
  specifically, I can't can't really respond to the men's in the manisphere. But
• 44:01
  men's rights activists do this to women even if they disagree with them. They
• 44:07
  like, you don't know your own mind. I'm gonna directly counterdict your own
• 44:13
  experience. I'm going to take that away from you. Can't even talk about
• 44:15
  your own experienced, little lady. I know what it is. I know
• 44:20
  it better than you because I'm a male feminist. You don't see men's rights
• 44:22
  activists doing that to even women, know I I see it's it's it's even
• 44:28
  just rare in the broader manisphere, right, Like I Rolo TOMASI right,
• 44:34
  I say his name because he's the one. He's the one who was so
• 44:40
  annoyed with me and so like absolutely disgusted by me, right, and the
• 44:46
  fact that I would even speak up about things that it's not it's not a
• 44:51
  woman's place right to speak up about these things and to and to you know,
• 44:55
  tell men how they should be and stuff. And it's like one like
• 45:00
  I'm just repeating, Well, well, I'm just I'm all I'm here doing
• 45:06
  is saying I mostly agree with most of these red pill guys on most of
• 45:12
  these issues. Right. There are some things I don't agree on, but
• 45:16
  most of what they say on most of these issues, at least most of
• 45:22
  them. You know, I can get behind. I can say, well,
• 45:25
  that's actually factually correct, and it might not be the best approach,
• 45:29
  but it's the approach you've chosen, whatever, right, I'm not judgmental.
• 45:35
  I don't mind pickup artists. I don't mind red pillars, I don't mind
• 45:39
  trad cons, I don't mind in cells, and I don't mind Bigtoe.
• 45:45
  I managed to get along with people from all of these groups, right,
• 45:51
  except for Rollo Tomazi and that one freaking left winger. And I can't say
• 45:58
  his name because he changes his fucking account every two weeks just so he can
• 46:05
  stalk me on Reddit. I don't know who you're talking about, but um,
• 46:10
  but Rollo. But Tomassi wrote the book on the man He invented everything,
• 46:15
  don't you know he is? He has the Nicola Tesla of the Manisphere.
• 46:19
  He created it all. You know, Buy his book, guys.
• 46:22
  He is the guy. Didn't the guy who wrote the game write the book.
• 46:28
  I think Rolo Tomassi wrote the guy that wrote the game. I think
• 46:30
  he wrote the person. He wrote us into existence. He's like he's like
• 46:36
  Sutter Kane from in the Mouth of madness. You know, do you read
• 46:38
  Rollo Tamasi Like the guy made everything, he made it all up, he
• 46:45
  gets credit. I got blocked by Rollo. Don't know what I got blocked
• 46:52
  for because what you said? I can't wait to hear. Okay, Well,
• 46:59
  he was talking about how men have to be completely independent of women.
• 47:04
  And I went to his website and I pointed out that he said that men
• 47:07
  have to appeal to women. I mean, appealing to women is a fundamental
• 47:13
  part of being a desirable man or being a man of worth. And I
• 47:17
  pointed this out. He said something like that. I said, well,
• 47:20
  this, okay, is this not? Is this not revolving your identity around
• 47:23
  women? Blocked? Well, what a stupid thing to say men need to
• 47:30
  exist in their identities independent of women. How do you do that? Right?
• 47:35
  Like they're just not even an even even for a gay man. You
• 47:38
  can't even really do that. But also, like why would you say that
• 47:44
  and simultaneously put women women's desires up as the standard, Like men have to
• 47:47
  be entertaining, men have to do all these things and judge themselves by women,
• 47:52
  And then say in the other breath, oh, but men need to
• 47:54
  be independents, like choose choose a lane. That's all I did was point
• 47:59
  that out and was like blocked. Well, no, I was blocked for
• 48:02
  something as well similar. I don't know. I I pointed out some you
• 48:09
  know, in internal inconsistency, and it's so it's like, yeah, okay,
• 48:15
  fine, women are motivate men. I'm not getting but they're not.
• 48:21
  They do they take responsibility now for the fact that we are in an epidemic
• 48:24
  of unmotivated men have no motivation? Yeah? Is that did they take?
• 48:32
  Okay, I'm gonna give women credit for motivating men the moment a critical mass
• 48:37
  of women steps up and takes responsibility for it. Yeah, okay, how
• 48:43
  can we motivate these men? I got I'm done joking about Rollo. I
• 48:46
  just think it's funny. But Zax gives us ten bucks super Chow and says
• 48:52
  the thing about these interviews is the background of the guests are rarely known.
• 48:54
  Pearl followed Kevin Samuel's and paid to be mentored by Hafeez of The Roommates podcasts,
• 49:00
  which is part of why he couldn't challenge her the way he did coach
• 49:04
  Greg Adams when he confronted her and her material Pearls sought out man in this
• 49:07
  space to figure out what to talk about. It could be a grift,
• 49:10
  as some allege, but she still went to two sources and calls on stuff.
• 49:15
  Rollo has discussed the fact that she watched Cassie Jay's documentary Featuring You Guys
• 49:20
  shows that she's looking at the sources of what she discusses. All that is
• 49:23
  lost in and makes people like Ethan look even more disingenuous. Um Okay,
• 49:29
  look, I just from my personal opinion, I don't care what her motivations
• 49:35
  are. I don't care if she's trying to make money. All I care
• 49:37
  about is she telling people the truth? Is she sharing information regardless of who
• 49:45
  gets all of the kudos, regardless of whatever. I just want the message
• 49:47
  out there, And if Pearls getting the message out there, then that's fine.
• 49:51
  Fucking huzzah. I don't care, you know, because when when people
• 49:54
  start like this is this is the thing, Like, I feel like I'm
• 49:58
  always defending people that I'm supposed to hate. I have to defend Trump.
• 50:01
  I have to defend Harvey Weinstein. I have to defend fucking girl. I
• 50:07
  have to defend Bill Cosby. I have to defend Pearl. I have to
• 50:10
  defend Andrew Tate because everybody's got to bug up their ass about something they did
• 50:15
  a year ago, ten years ago, or there's no evidence, there's just
• 50:17
  accusations. It's endless. It's endless. It's endless, and I'm just like,
• 50:22
  are they doing good? Okay? Then can I just give them credit
• 50:24
  for the stuff that I like and just forget the rest? I mean,
• 50:28
  I don't like, like I said in my opinion, okay, from what
• 50:31
  I've seen, regardless of whatever her motivations are. And I say the same
• 50:36
  about Lauren Southern, by the way, I don't like what she said in
• 50:39
  her last video, but I still like Lauren Southern. I hope that she
• 50:43
  heals, figures it all out, and like you know, I don't know,
• 50:46
  does something good with the rest of her life. But I don't care
• 50:52
  what your motivations are. I don't care what your intentions are. I just
• 50:55
  care about whether or not you're telling the truth. Because if you're grifting,
• 51:00
  but you're using the truth to grift, then I guess there you go.
• 51:04
  It's like Chloe roma same thing. She you know, she says things that
• 51:07
  are true. I let it go. She tries to like come after men
• 51:10
  in some way or bring feminism into it. I call her out because that's
• 51:14
  where I draw the line. It's very simple. So I don't have to
• 51:17
  love any of these people. You know, I got. I got into
• 51:22
  a big Twitter spat just recently because Jordan Peterson, because of his comments about
• 51:28
  men. You know that women are a selection pressure that on reproduction that basically
• 51:39
  improves humanity. Right, And well, yeah, they are a selection pressure
• 51:45
  on reproduction, right, they are the bottleneck. Are they improving humanity?
• 51:51
  No? No, not lately, right, not at all? Right,
• 51:55
  And and you know so, and we are basically back to the eighty twenty
• 52:02
  rule. We are basically back to hopefully a chimpan common chimpanzee society as opposed
• 52:09
  to a fucking Benobo society. Okay, but we're on our way back to
• 52:15
  some kind of fucked up monkey shit. Okay. You better hope we land
• 52:23
  in chimpanzee land. You better hope we land north of the Congo and not
• 52:28
  south, because nobody likes it south of the Congo. They're the Benobos are
• 52:34
  the love monkey, noo, the rape monkey, the rape monkey. Everybody's
• 52:37
  fucking rape and everybody, including quildren Jesus fuck right, and that's where we're
• 52:45
  going. I'm sorry, but Jordan, you need to be harder on women.
• 52:52
  You you are. You go easier on women than you do on men.
• 52:57
  Admit it, right, just admit it. I still love you,
• 53:01
  I still appreciate you. I still think you're a net positive for the universe.
• 53:07
  Okay, but on this one issue, right, I don't know why
• 53:14
  you're doing it, but you're doing it. And maybe so maybe it's because
• 53:21
  you can't help yourself and you feel sympathetic towards women because you have the empathy
• 53:24
  gap. You're the embodiment of the empathy gap, like everybody else is.
• 53:29
  Right, Maybe that's why, right, Or maybe it's because you know that
• 53:34
  if you actually really started telling women what the fun is wrong with, you
• 53:39
  become the bad. Yeah, you'd stop selling books. Yeah, And I
• 53:47
  kind of point something else out. Yes, women play selective pressure on men,
• 53:52
  or actually females play selective pressure on men. So they are an evolutionary
• 53:57
  pressure. Just say women said no. No, I'm I'm making the distinction
• 54:01
  because there's some additional that goes on. Women place a social pressure on men.
• 54:07
  It's not related to like um evolving biological stuff, and that social pressure
• 54:15
  can be beneficial to the production of a cooperative society or not. Okay,
• 54:23
  yeah, yeah, My favorite example is the Sabine women. What did they
• 54:28
  do? They challenged their own identities as women at that time. What did
• 54:35
  women do? They motivated men to battle over their sexuality, like that's like
• 54:40
  a Bronze age thing. It was really critical for men that they be able
• 54:44
  to protect the sexuality of their women. What did the Sabine women do.
• 54:46
  They challenge that. They challenge that influence over men. And in challenging that
• 54:52
  influence over men, they laid the foundation for tribes of men working together in
• 54:57
  a nation state, which was what did not exist before that point. Okay,
• 55:04
  that did not exist. That kind of cooperative tribal cooperation did not exist
• 55:09
  what nation states before that time where they were kingdoms and they were one tribe
• 55:14
  subjugating everyone else. Okay, so that kind of cooperation didn't exist. And
• 55:17
  then suddenly that was a forced multiplier for the concept of civilization and we live
• 55:23
  in the shadow of that. So there, Yeah, women apply selective pressure,
• 55:30
  but we're more than just biological imperatives. We're also social considerations. And
• 55:37
  if women aren't applying reasonable social considerations in our society. Our society disappears like
• 55:45
  we all end up being slaves to some other better society. Like I guess
• 55:50
  maybe China. I'm not saying China is better efficient. Yeah, they have
• 55:58
  the ship together, then that's just what it is. Okay, let's play
• 56:01
  a little bit more of the video. No, I wouldn't say I'm a
• 56:06
  dating coach, but okay, but that realm, you know what I mean.
• 56:08
  Like, I don't mean you're a dating coach, but like that kind
• 56:09
  of realm, it seems that you're super focused on So what is your interest
• 56:14
  in that manisphere? Maybe that's a better term manisphere stuff. Oh god,
• 56:17
  she's letting him, she's letting him control. Yeah, I know, I
• 56:21
  know. Pears like she's a bit. Yeah, she's she's she doesn't seem
• 56:27
  like the kind of person that's accustomed to very like manipulative bad faith actors.
• 56:32
  Like on her podcast, she certainly has to deal with aggressive people because she
• 56:37
  gets like women off the street and men off the street, and sometimes the
• 56:39
  women are very combative, but they're not like this. They're not like serpents,
• 56:44
  you know what I mean. So, Okay, what he's done is
• 56:50
  that he's forced her to take responsibility for his perception of her content. Yeah.
• 56:57
  Now she's stated that, and um, you know, it might have
• 57:01
  been better if she pushed back on that. I don't know, what do
• 57:04
  you think? And if she just said something like can I see the statistics?
• 57:07
  I would have nip immediately. Yeah. No, you just say,
• 57:13
  well, that's the content you've seen, and I'm guessing that it's the most
• 57:16
  outrageous clips that get shared by people who don't like me. Yeah, I'm
• 57:22
  not responsible for my most popular content, which is probably the content that you've
• 57:27
  seen. But content or the most or the most the most shared content,
• 57:31
  but the content that means the most to me and I've spent the most time
• 57:35
  on and wish was the most popular? Is this content? Yeah? And
• 57:38
  now that she he's framed her in this way and he's forced her to take
• 57:43
  responsibility or at least concede somehow to this idea that her most important to her
• 57:49
  content is the dating. He's now he's now hurting her even further. So
• 57:55
  now he's going to make her talk about that because that's where he's gonna he's
• 58:00
  probably laying whatever trap he's setting up. Wheah, Yeah, don't let people
• 58:06
  do this. Yeah, you know, he's the politician thing. Well,
• 58:09
  he's he's got a script, right, he's reading. Yeah, he's yeah,
• 58:14
  he's been prepared for this. I bet Hassan put together a bunch of
• 58:17
  talking points and gave him because Ethan's not the smartest guy. He's just he's
• 58:22
  just like, he's just going through the script. He has like a because
• 58:25
  he has a specific goal. It's to make her look bad and take away
• 58:29
  all of her credibility. And this happens later when when he brings like a
• 58:32
  conversation about slavery into it, which is not Pearl's normal content at all,
• 58:37
  um, but occasionally it comes up because a lot of her guests are black,
• 58:43
  and you know, they bring it up for whatever reason. And she
• 58:45
  reads Thomas Soul, who apparently is despite being a black man that was a
• 58:51
  very intelligent economist guy that did a lot of research, is completely not credible
• 58:54
  at all. So you know, okay, but my overall point is if
• 58:59
  she was going to go, if you're going to get in this situation,
• 59:01
  do the politician answer? Yeah? So what I hear is that you see
• 59:07
  the content that you've seen of mine is this, But the content that I
• 59:12
  want to talk about is this because this is what's important to me and this
• 59:15
  is what motivates me. So it's like a reverse caffee new Yeah, it's
• 59:22
  yeah, well it's just asserting yourself. Yeah, you know, and it's
• 59:28
  interesting how this feminist is definitely but showing how you might learn to corral women
• 59:37
  with a pickup artistry. Yeah, start and frame and to frame and to
• 59:44
  frame like that, the debating to to to put them in a particular spot.
• 59:49
  Essentially, it's very good at it. Okay, all right, let's
• 59:52
  get what is my interest? I don't know. I just thought it was
• 59:58
  interesting, So that's gonna talk about. Okay, that's fair. Um,
• 1:00:04
  so what does you say your anti feminism? Feminism was basically a mistake.
• 1:00:07
  So what is your problem with feminism? Let's start there. That's a good
• 1:00:10
  point. Um. I think that feminism wants a quality when it benefits us
• 1:00:15
  and not actual quality. And that's are you going back to the beginning of
• 1:00:20
  feminism, like the whole history of feminism, like women's suffrage and everything.
• 1:00:23
  Yeah no, I don't. You don't fuck with women suffrage based She needs
• 1:00:31
  to watch Janis f A Mango's videos on that. They're they're they're very they're
• 1:00:37
  very well done. Love you, Janice. Shout out to Janis, be
• 1:00:38
  a mango, everybody. It was the wrong answer, though, that she
• 1:00:43
  gave. Well, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna grab a coffee. You
• 1:00:46
  tell them what the what she should have said. She should have said that
• 1:00:50
  the entire feminist narrative frames men as the evil villains of the world and disrupts
• 1:00:57
  the relationship between the sexes and their cooperative nature when it comes to building societies
• 1:01:04
  and raising children. I don't think he let her again again. I think
• 1:01:09
  this is a series of framing, like he's saying, you have a problem
• 1:01:13
  with feminism. Oh, you, so you have it. And they always
• 1:01:16
  go back to the vote because the vote is supposedly the most unimpeachable thing that
• 1:01:22
  feminists ever did. But of course, yeah, but but he don't answer.
• 1:01:28
  Her answer should have been right, that the entire feminist narrative, all
• 1:01:34
  the way back to the beginning, is an indictment of men, a false
• 1:01:39
  accusation against men, right that interferes with the cooperative nature of the sex.
• 1:01:47
  I see what you're saying. It's reframing it because again, women probably would
• 1:01:52
  have gotten the vote without feminism of the suffragets. Yeah, because it was
• 1:01:58
  a general push towards greater and greater enfranchisement of groups of people. So they
• 1:02:04
  were they were going to get the vote. Period. Feminism had nothing to
• 1:02:07
  do with that. Suffragettes had nothing to do with that. Yeah, there
• 1:02:12
  were there were even people like suffragists at that time who were complaining that the
• 1:02:17
  suffragettes were so outrageous. Their behavior was so outrageous that it was actually hurting
• 1:02:23
  the cause of general suffrage. So you know, like it was like and
• 1:02:32
  not just general suffrage, but women suffrage, right, Like, so um,
• 1:02:37
  not just like suffrage for every man, no matter his income or status
• 1:02:42
  or whatever, but also suffrage for women. That the suffragists were actually being
• 1:02:49
  counterproductive because the behavior, right and the tactics were so socially harmful and irresponsible,
• 1:03:00
  right that people were starting to wonder like, well, these ladies don't
• 1:03:06
  even know how to fucking behave? Should they get the vote? M Yeah,
• 1:03:10
  No, it's a it's a good thing to bring up, all right.
• 1:03:15
  In reframing, you know that this is going to take a while,
• 1:03:19
  Brian, so just don't worry about it. In reframing the whole narrative around
• 1:03:29
  these issues that feminism takes responsibility for things that were a result of social pressures
• 1:03:35
  and result of men in power responding to social pressures. Like the thing is
• 1:03:39
  that when industrialization happened, it completely eradicated women's role in society. Like they
• 1:03:45
  used to be very critical in terms of the home economy, and the home
• 1:03:51
  economy was the most important economy, and then industrialization got rid of that.
• 1:03:55
  Well, you know, there was probably a sense that women should have say
• 1:04:00
  in society. They used to because they controlled the most important economy and then
• 1:04:04
  suddenly they stopped. So there would probably have been a pressure that, yeah,
• 1:04:08
  women really should have a say. And I bet that that's what really
• 1:04:13
  did. It had absolutely nothing to do with feminism and nothing to do with
• 1:04:15
  suffragets. Oh you know, you know what idea that time had come?
• 1:04:19
  Yeah, you know, you know what I found hilarious is do you remember
• 1:04:24
  you know good Fella right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I love
• 1:04:28
  him, Yeah yeah, yeah, I know he's sweetie. But he he
• 1:04:33
  unearthed some old black and white news bits from like the nineteen sixties. I
• 1:04:43
  yeah, And they were asking people on the street about whether they were in
• 1:04:47
  favor of the Equal Pay Act in Scotland, and all of these people men
• 1:04:56
  and women, you know what they said. Yes, I'm in favor of
• 1:05:00
  it because if you have to pay a woman as much as you pay a
• 1:05:03
  man, you'll be more likely to hire a man, and men are the
• 1:05:06
  ones with the financial responsibilities. Yes, every time, every time you see
• 1:05:17
  a situation where this there is restrictions on women in going into an occupation or
• 1:05:25
  going into an educational system, it's because there are expectations on men placed on
• 1:05:30
  men to provide for women. Yep. Okay, Like you look at the
• 1:05:35
  regency stuff where there's this one landowner guy. But if you if you think
• 1:05:41
  about the first sentence that Jane Austen wrote, it's a what is it?
• 1:05:45
  A well understood truth that a man in possession of a fortune is the rightful
• 1:05:53
  property of one of a daughter, of the family and of his class something.
• 1:05:59
  I'm saying it really, but it's paid phra isn't really vali. But
• 1:06:01
  it's essentially that his fortune belongs to their daughters. That is a social attitude.
• 1:06:08
  A man has a fortune, but it doesn't belong to him. It
• 1:06:11
  belongs to his wife, Okay, and he must wife up that was the
• 1:06:16
  social expectation in the sixties. In fact, older men tell me that one
• 1:06:20
  of the big things that feminism quote unquote did was take the pressure off men
• 1:06:25
  to marry, because it used to be huge. If you were a successful
• 1:06:28
  man, you married, period, Okay, or you might be a fag
• 1:06:31
  and you don't want to go down there, okay. So if you were
• 1:06:34
  a successful man, your fortune wife. Your fortune belonged to your wife,
• 1:06:40
  and you better get one quick, otherwise you will be looked at and you
• 1:06:44
  will be cast over for promotions, you will be discriminated against in the workplace.
• 1:06:48
  So that's the case, Like every single time there's been a situation where
• 1:06:51
  women are excluded from the productivity of something, that productivity is socially expected to
• 1:07:00
  go to them, all right, That it's invariable. It's invariable. Men
• 1:07:04
  aren't allowed to go off and become hugely wealthy and not have that wealth somehow
• 1:07:10
  benefit women, all right. And they that's what they were recognizing in the
• 1:07:15
  sixties. That's what they were recognizing one hundred and fifty years ago, I'll
• 1:07:17
  do two hundred years ago. They recognize that men have social pressure on them
• 1:07:23
  to prove their value and provide that value to women. If they have that
• 1:07:28
  social pressure, they should have the opportunities to do so that's it. Yeah,
• 1:07:33
  you remember, you remember the bachelor tax lady was like in the eighteen
• 1:07:39
  fifties or something in the US, and she was basically saying that bachelors should
• 1:07:44
  have to she was seriously well being for this. She was that bachelor should
• 1:07:50
  have to buy a license, like uh, like you have to buy a
• 1:07:56
  license to own a dog. Okay, because there are all these women,
• 1:08:03
  marriageable women between the ages of nineteen and thirty two who don't have husbands,
• 1:08:12
  and the government has to and the church have to take care of them because
• 1:08:16
  they're unmarried, and these men need to step up and marry them. And
• 1:08:23
  then like there were bachelor societies that popped up to oppose these things, and
• 1:08:30
  they actually would whenever one of their members would get married, they would hold
• 1:08:34
  a funeral for him and do a procession through the streets. Right, they
• 1:08:42
  won't, they won't like these satirical pieces in the newspaper lamb basing this proposal
• 1:08:48
  to impose a bachelor tax. Right, and in this was in New England.
• 1:08:55
  I think if I recall, right, because there were more women than
• 1:09:00
  men in New England because the men all went west right adventuresomely, and the
• 1:09:06
  women stayed where it was safe in New England. And uh and so it
• 1:09:12
  was like they they would actually they would have these duels in the editorial opinion
• 1:09:19
  columns of the papers right where and posters and stuff and leaflets where they'd be
• 1:09:27
  like, yeah, no, if you join our club, but if you,
• 1:09:31
  if you, you know, dare to shame the society by getting married,
• 1:09:39
  will will lament your loss and have a funeral and blah blah blah.
• 1:09:45
  Right and but and you you will be kicked out of the club, right
• 1:09:50
  And uh, yeah, no, it was, it was. It was
• 1:09:53
  hilarious because and this woman, she was just like some old fricking spinster,
• 1:09:59
  like sixty year old woman, just like we need a bachelor tax. Well,
• 1:10:05
  they full of these unmarried women. Man. Yeah, but here's the
• 1:10:12
  other thing, like that happened in a context, and that context was active
• 1:10:17
  discrimination in terms of employment against bachelor's. Yeah. To talk about how women
• 1:10:24
  who were married were discriminated, well, it's because anybody who wasn't supporting a
• 1:10:28
  woman financially was discriminated in the system that promoted the idea that men should support
• 1:10:32
  women financially. What a fricking shock. Yeah, patriarchy. But the difference
• 1:10:40
  is that bachelor's if they couldn't get a job, they didn't eat. Yeah,
• 1:10:44
  whereas if if a spinster get a husband, the spinsters. But here's
• 1:10:48
  the thing. The spinsters would be taken care of by their brothers in laws
• 1:10:54
  or their their brothers or theirs, or when their fathers died, they would
• 1:11:01
  be taken care of by their brothers or cousins or their brother in law.
• 1:11:04
  That's why it was such a deal that one of the girls married. Well,
• 1:11:10
  Lizzie Borden took an axe and gave her father forty X. When she
• 1:11:17
  saw what she had done, she gave her mother forty one. Lizzie Borden
• 1:11:21
  was thirty five years old, unmarried, and was living with and being supported
• 1:11:27
  by her parents. Yep, this is the case. All these societies that
• 1:11:35
  restrict women's ability to find employment are also societies in which women are expected to
• 1:11:43
  be taken care of by their family, by their men, by their brothers,
• 1:11:45
  by their brothers in laws, and that their fathers by their mills.
• 1:11:50
  The men earned by their son women to the women. Yeah, whatever men
• 1:11:56
  earn is expected by law to go to women. This is always the bargain,
• 1:12:00
  yeah, you know, And and in many cases, I think a
• 1:12:04
  lot of women are happy with it. They're just like, yeah, let
• 1:12:06
  the men go and do what men do to provide. You know. I'm
• 1:12:11
  happy with them their little there there there cooperative bee hive and make the honey.
• 1:12:16
  And then I'll just you know, siphon it off when I want some.
• 1:12:20
  Well, it's just this is what I do. But you know what
• 1:12:24
  else I do, right, I make sure that my husband has lots of
• 1:12:31
  good meals. Okay, that he has what he needs to do a proper
• 1:12:38
  job. I drive him everywhere because he doesn't like driving, right, So
• 1:12:42
  I drive him everywhere. He especially doesn't like driving after we got t boned,
• 1:12:46
  right, And he he just he wants to focus on his work.
• 1:12:57
  And when he's home from work, he wants to focus on learning new things
• 1:13:03
  to get better at work. That's that's just the kind of guy he is.
• 1:13:08
  And I look after everything else, everything else, the lawn, the
• 1:13:14
  home maintenance and repairs, the cleaning, the cooking, the making sure that
• 1:13:18
  the food he eats doesn't kill him. Because what you can buy in the
• 1:13:24
  grocery store would kill him, right, all of these things. Right,
• 1:13:28
  I'm his medical advocate. I'm his like I am the person who arranges all
• 1:13:33
  of the things. I'm the person who keeps his relationship with his mother alive.
• 1:13:38
  Okay. And I manage the money and I invest and I put things
• 1:13:43
  in savings and I do all of that stuff. And you know, and
• 1:13:48
  I'm happy doing that. I don't. It's been years since I've had to
• 1:13:54
  have a day job, right, because he earns really good money. In
• 1:13:59
  part of the reason he earns really good money is because I'm there helping him
• 1:14:06
  freaking a sensitive, possibly controversial email that he has to send and CC to
• 1:14:15
  the bosses, the higher ups and all of that. Right, I go
• 1:14:19
  and I prof read that. I tell him how to change the wording to
• 1:14:24
  make it seem less antagonistic or or uh you know, like word it exactly
• 1:14:30
  properly, because it's an important freaking thing over an important freaking issue. Right.
• 1:14:36
  I do all of those things for him, and and you know he's
• 1:14:43
  here. Oh, and I tug his dick a lot, Okay. Well,
• 1:14:47
  and I'm just saying I know, I sometimes it's yeah, No,
• 1:14:56
  I mean, like we do the full shebang fairly often, but you know,
• 1:15:00
  like if I'm not in the mood for it, yeah, you know,
• 1:15:03
  like there's a handy there. What I'm saying is is, you know,
• 1:15:10
  like I am, and I don't feel I don't feel demeaned, like
• 1:15:14
  I don't feel like his servant or anything like that. What he is is
• 1:15:19
  the person who brings in all the money, and I want to keep him
• 1:15:27
  in tiptop shape. I want to make sure that he's good to go every
• 1:15:32
  morning and then I have most of the rest of the day to myself.
• 1:15:40
  And he's not picky with the housekeeping. That's the nice thing, right If
• 1:15:44
  he was, if he was a perfectionist with like dusting and ship, I'd
• 1:15:46
  be like, yeah, you can go fuck yourself, but you can tug
• 1:15:51
  your own dick. Thanks. But he's not. He's not picky about that.
• 1:15:56
  He's got things that he needs to help him get through this day at
• 1:16:00
  his extremely stressful job. That's very important. And uh, and I just
• 1:16:08
  do all of the other stuff. And and it's like that's very common throughout
• 1:16:12
  history, like yes, yeah, women just took care of all of that
• 1:16:16
  sort of like they were the farmers and men were the ones who went out
• 1:16:20
  and and you know, cut down tree. But what I'm getting at is
• 1:16:27
  that women were happy with that. I can't emphasiz I overjoyed with this.
• 1:16:33
  This is like then, they're happy with that arrangement. And they were happy
• 1:16:38
  in part because they knew, in like two hundred, three hundred years ago,
• 1:16:43
  they knew how important what they did was to society. Like three hundred
• 1:16:47
  years ago, peasant women go on strike. Uh you know village the husband
• 1:16:54
  start. Yeah, all the husband start and and and arget batulism or yeah,
• 1:17:00
  you know. So it's they knew, and they were perfectly happy with
• 1:17:04
  that. They were perfectly happy with having their spirit. And I've even heard
• 1:17:08
  like Ann Rand was speaking, I listened to something a long time ago,
• 1:17:13
  like from not I listened to it a long time ago. It was from
• 1:17:15
  a long time ago, and she talked about how women were content because they
• 1:17:20
  had their own thing. They called it the power of necessity. Their influence
• 1:17:25
  was the power of necessity. Yeah, they knew, he all those old
• 1:17:30
  babushkas and all village women, they knew. They knew how important their role
• 1:17:34
  was and how critical it was the survival of their community. And they were
• 1:17:38
  fine with that. They gave men they just let men have the role that
• 1:17:43
  men wanted to have. You know, day to day women were doing the
• 1:17:46
  clerical organization, making sure people don't get botulism or die of the flu.
• 1:17:50
  And then when the vikings attack, all the men clicked together and do their
• 1:17:55
  thing. And it worked because get get get this, we evolved to work
• 1:18:02
  together together, yea, to fill in each other's spreadsheets. As Karen said
• 1:18:09
  in the beginning of all this, Yeah, no, it's like it's like
• 1:18:13
  whenever my husband gets cranky or up I won't say up at he when he
• 1:18:18
  just gets like ungrateful, when he's like, hey, you don't do nothing,
• 1:18:23
  nah blah blah, and I'm like, okay, cook for yourself tonight.
• 1:18:27
  He changes us too immediately, because you know, it's just like,
• 1:18:32
  yeah, no, it's the way to a man's heart is through his stomach
• 1:18:38
  and his penis. Okay, so we do we have to do any thank
• 1:18:44
  you? Actually, the natives, the natives are getting restless. So the
• 1:18:48
  natives are getting restless. Sorry you guys. You know, there was a
• 1:18:51
  long tangent, but ultimately, yes, feminist is not really a tangent.
• 1:18:57
  But I don't know if it's surprising it didn't recognize is that men got the
• 1:19:00
  vote. Well, some men got the vote because they were responsible for the
• 1:19:04
  overall protection of society. Okay, women had influence on the internal, which
• 1:19:10
  was very critical because he kept everything going. They were the logistics. Men
• 1:19:14
  had the vote because the vote much more related to the external, which what
• 1:19:18
  they had to deal with, they had to protect, and it was just
• 1:19:21
  a balance of powers, that's it. And women women had. Women had
• 1:19:28
  pillow power too, right, they had French they had influence across the pillow.
• 1:19:35
  Well, the French paid like half their GDP to go send like a
• 1:19:41
  cortison to the to the British King. You know, they just wasted all
• 1:19:45
  that money, did they know? Because they knew that a woman would have
• 1:19:48
  incredible influence if she could catch his eye. She didn't because the British monarchs
• 1:19:56
  have the most bizarre fucking taste imaginable. But but they tried anyway. So
• 1:20:04
  you have an announcement or something or oh yeah, yeah. So if you're
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  trying to get something through PayPal, PayPal is dealing with a site wide issue
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  where the payment buttons aren't working. They don't seem to feel any necessity in
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  fixing that because I've heard rumors that they have something that pops up that tends
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  you to like a queer organization, and I can use that word because yeah,
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  like there's something that put you know there, there's like a you can
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  donate to a queer organization in the actual payment, so you can't actually pay
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  for what you want to, but you allegedly you can go and pay for
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  them. Oh so that's like that's like a hack or something. I don't
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  know, but something is going wrong with PayPal. I see a bunch of
• 1:20:56
  you have attempted to put something through, or one of you is attempted to
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  put something through and it hasn't gone through. So that is why it's just
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  not going to go through now because try a different method. Then, yeah,
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  just try try the other payment method. I know it's a little bit
• 1:21:13
  more cumberson because you have to put your payment stuff into the website itself.
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  Um, I don't think we have anything any thank you because oh we do
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  have one thank you to give to miss Amma arc who gave us ten dollars.
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  Initially, I'm guessing that this problem is sort of making it difficult for
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  people to wort right, Well, try a different try the other thing than
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  payment process, or maybe you can use just the tip or something, or
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  just go to feed the Badger dot com forward slash support. It's not that
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  it's not that inconvenient, and it's it's not really something we can do anything
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  about. So all right, well, thank you for the ten dollars.
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  Okay, guys really have to help out otherwise we won't be able to continue
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  to do this work. So please please please send take a moment to just
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  go to feed the Badger dot com slash support. Ill. I do this
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  every month, and I always have the anxiety. You know, is this
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  going to be the month? I know everybody has that anxiety here at HPR,
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  but just please help us out, make sure that we can continue to
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  talk about this. I think the next super Chow really really hits the nail
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  on the head on why it's important that we need to do this, right?
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  Do you want to read it? Yeah, so sick Fox gives us
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  ten dollars and says through supercow, thank you, sick Fox. I know
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  it shouldn't, but it still amazes me to see how praising men as uniquely
• 1:22:46
  important in certain ways is perceived as inherently hateful and false, including by people
• 1:22:51
  that would swear up and down that they love men and are not feminists.
• 1:22:57
  Yep. Oh, well that's the thing that is that's the thing that separates
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  you know, like people like us from most other people I think. But
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  um, yeah, I agree. We uniquely say that women need to take
• 1:23:12
  responsibility. Like Lauren Southern. Land will say something like Lauren Southern, you
• 1:23:15
  know women motivate men. Well, then that means women need to take responsibility
• 1:23:19
  for the fact that men aren't motivated. Okay, Yeah, And something that
• 1:23:23
  I have noticed really motivates men who otherwise are lost or or would have otherwise
• 1:23:30
  been lost, is simply telling them that masculinity is valuable in and of itself.
• 1:23:35
  Yeah. What men bring to society is valuable in and of itself.
• 1:23:41
  Absolutely, what they what they could bring to a family too. Yeah.
• 1:23:45
  Yeah, and it should be cherished and it should be respected and valued.
• 1:23:49
  We are here because of the way human men are, the way their sexuality
• 1:23:55
  is, the way they view the world, the way they express their masculinity.
• 1:24:00
  We're here and we enjoy what we do because of men, and we
• 1:24:02
  need to recognize that and value men for what they are. Not start heaping
• 1:24:09
  more shame about how they haven't measured up to women. I don't know how
• 1:24:13
  the hell men measure up to women, because basically women are like, oh,
• 1:24:15
  yeah, I want to have Shiva or Odin or maybe Zeus. You
• 1:24:20
  know, how does the average mortal man measure up to that, like the
• 1:24:25
  perfect imagining of a woman. They can't. And we totally devalue men and
• 1:24:30
  we need to stop. Yeah, and we can't just be like, oh
• 1:24:33
  no, like men, pull up your socks. Pull up your socks.
• 1:24:38
  That gives men nothing to start with. And this is what I've seen in
• 1:24:41
  the work that I've done, that you can tell men who are lost in
• 1:24:45
  some ways that there is value to your You have value, your masculinity has
• 1:24:54
  value. And surprisingly, I don't know, a lot of people will be
• 1:24:57
  absolutely astounded by this. A Prisingly, when you tell a guy who's struggling
• 1:25:01
  that they dig in deeper and work harder, I guess I don't know.
• 1:25:08
  I couldn't exactly tell you why, because apparently if you tell that to men,
• 1:25:12
  they just sit back and like, yeah, I'm perfect. But in
• 1:25:14
  my experience, if a guy's struggling and you say no, you have something
• 1:25:17
  of worth to bring to the world. Your masculinity has value. Don't give
• 1:25:24
  up on yourself. They don't. They actually dig harder and work harder and
• 1:25:30
  make more of an effort and feel more capable of doing so, as opposed
• 1:25:33
  to constantly shaming them about being weak and producing a poor society because men are
• 1:25:40
  weak still society. It's the thing that always makes Jordan Peterson cry, Yeah,
• 1:25:50
  you can't. That's why I can't completely condemn him. Yeah. No,
• 1:25:55
  the number of men he's spoken too who have never heard a single word
• 1:26:00
  of encouragement. Because that's what that is. That's what it is. That's
• 1:26:09
  what it is. It's it's like, you can what you are intrinsically,
• 1:26:15
  what you are, what is inside of you, has value, and you
• 1:26:20
  can build on that and make a positive effect on the world right on the
• 1:26:27
  people around you, on your on your loved ones, on your on your
• 1:26:31
  home, on your community, on your you know, your country, whatever.
• 1:26:36
  Right you can do that with what's in you. If you harness it
• 1:26:43
  properly, if you harness it cautiously, if you harness it with forethought,
• 1:26:48
  if you harness it responsibly, you can be a positive force in the universe
• 1:26:56
  just with what you have in you right now, right right, specifically as
• 1:27:01
  a man, as a man, and the number of men who are despairing,
• 1:27:08
  despairing because they cannot they have never heard a single word of encouragement that
• 1:27:17
  basically says, you're okay with who you're okay the way you are, but
• 1:27:27
  anyone can improve. Yeah. But even that, just saying that men have
• 1:27:32
  something valuable to give to the world, I have found has been very encouraging
• 1:27:36
  to the people or to the men and the young men who our society considers
• 1:27:42
  lost. Okay, so a young a young man who thinks that he might
• 1:27:45
  be a woman, just give an encouraging word about being a man, maybe
• 1:27:50
  he'll change his path. Not to say that if they necessarily truly identify as
• 1:27:56
  a woman, they will change their path. But that's what you're trying to
• 1:27:59
  do. But if it's really about feeling like you have nothing of worth as
• 1:28:03
  a man so you might as well be a woman, you can stop that.
• 1:28:06
  And there is there is a portion where that is that is what is
• 1:28:10
  value is happening. Ye, And then also you know you you have value
• 1:28:15
  as a man, So make that extra effort to maybe get off disability,
• 1:28:19
  get a job, work for yourself, you know, make yourself, feel
• 1:28:25
  like you're a contributing part of the community for yourself, okay, you know,
• 1:28:29
  maybe advance further for yourself and to start with to say you have value,
• 1:28:35
  you don't even have to do anything. And this is something that men
• 1:28:40
  really struggle with because it's against that fundamental part of themselves, I think,
• 1:28:45
  which is that all of their value be through their actions. But even that
• 1:28:50
  the actions, the actions, the actions you take towards yourself are just as
• 1:28:56
  valuable. That's the thing, right, So even that man mentality is something
• 1:29:00
  that's given to you by your masculinity, yep, Like that's that comes out
• 1:29:06
  of being a man, being masculine, being masculinized, having more testosterone than
• 1:29:11
  average. Is that you focus on the idea that you should earn through your
• 1:29:15
  actions. That very mentality granted to you by your biology is absolutely critical to
• 1:29:24
  everything in the world that we see. What did you guys hear that?
• 1:29:31
  Oh yeah, I'm getting a free wash. Oh good? Okay, So
• 1:29:38
  anyway, the ultimate point is please make sure that we can continue to say
• 1:29:43
  this stuff. I really am grateful to everybody who helps us out it really
• 1:29:46
  like this. I'm very passionate about this, and I'm very passionate about that
• 1:29:50
  this message needs to continue because I see what it does. I see that
• 1:29:57
  it helps men to know that they have value and that they have worth,
• 1:30:01
  and that when men hear that, you know the ones you really need to
• 1:30:06
  hear it, that doesn't stop them from continue. It makes that gives them
• 1:30:10
  a reason to dig in and try even Ardor That's what I've seen. And
• 1:30:15
  for some reason, this message is just confusing as hell to both traditionalists and
• 1:30:21
  feminists don't even want to entertain it because in order to say that men have
• 1:30:26
  value, you have to say that there's some positive trait to masculinity that women
• 1:30:30
  and feminine individuals don't show nearly as much. Well, it's you have to
• 1:30:38
  you have to let them know because there are some men who are like so
• 1:30:43
  so messed up, right that there's just there's it's like, well, you
• 1:30:49
  are no help to anyone, even yourself, right, Like, you are
• 1:30:54
  self destructive, You are destructive to the people around you. You are like,
• 1:30:59
  but you have potential to be more. You have the potential to have
• 1:31:02
  a positive influence on yourself first, right, and then your surroundings, and
• 1:31:11
  then the people around you, and then your community and then greater society.
• 1:31:15
  You have that potential inside yourself, and that's a that's a masculine potential,
• 1:31:20
  and women have a feminine potential that does the exact same thing, right,
• 1:31:30
  just in a slightly different way, and trying to get to the same place.
• 1:31:34
  Well, we're all trying to get to a place of a functional society
• 1:31:39
  where everybody is doing the best that they can do. But regardless, this
• 1:31:45
  was supposed to be a chill So okay, an appeal. Please please help.
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  I know that it's difficult now because of the PayPal issue, but please
• 1:31:54
  go to feed the Badge dot com slash support. Somebody puts something in,
• 1:31:57
  because god Dawn, you're scaring the crap out of me, guys, so
• 1:32:00
  please go to feed the Badger dot com slash support. Put something in.
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  Five dollars, ten dollars. Just get the ball rolling because we need to
• 1:32:08
  make sure we can pay for this for this month. Anyway, Let's let's
• 1:32:12
  do a little bit more because I could feel Brian's I mean, this is
• 1:32:16
  what never mind, Let's just play somewhere and I only have twenty four minutes.
• 1:32:20
  Oh all right, we're gonna get about two minutes into this. Yeah,
• 1:32:25
  I don't think women should get the right to vote. No, no,
• 1:32:28
  I don't. Okay, So are you serious? Are you kidding?
• 1:32:31
  No, I'm serious. Okay, So women shouldn't get they shouldn't have the
• 1:32:34
  right to vote. Yeah, wow, it's not a right. That's what
• 1:32:39
  I would have said. It's not a right. People say it is,
• 1:32:42
  but it's not because men are signed up for selective service, so they're find
• 1:32:45
  three hundred thousand dollars if they're not if they don't sign up for selective service
• 1:32:49
  when they're eighteen. Do you think what should be drafted into the army?
• 1:32:54
  I think if we want the same rights, it comes with the same responsibility,
• 1:32:57
  should be drafted into the army. No, okay, that's my point.
• 1:33:01
  I'm saying, um, okay, just pausing for the banana. There's
• 1:33:04
  no paradox. She's saying women shouldn't have the vote because they don't have to
• 1:33:09
  sign up for the selective service and women shouldn't be drafted into the military.
• 1:33:15
  Um, therefore they shouldn't have the vote. That's not a paradox. That's
• 1:33:19
  a complete circle of logic. Yeah. Yeah, like, let's make it
• 1:33:26
  fair. You don't believe, well, listen, this is your perfect cont
• 1:33:29
  I'm saying. I'm saying. I'm saying that if we are going to vote,
• 1:33:31
  have the same cost, which is that men are put into selective service
• 1:33:38
  and women are not. And if I had to pick between the two,
• 1:33:41
  then I would give up the right to vote instead of sign up for selective
• 1:33:44
  service. Okay, So you're saying women should only get the right to vote
• 1:33:48
  if they sign a p selective service. But at the same time, you're
• 1:33:50
  saying women should not serve in the military. So in your world, women
• 1:33:55
  are just going to be disenfranchised because they're not gonna be able to sign.
• 1:33:57
  You they shouldn't serve in the military because they're not as good. Know what
• 1:34:00
  I'm saying. If Okay, just pausing it there, I don't want to
• 1:34:03
  go too far. But um, she's not saying that women should not be
• 1:34:09
  allowed to join the military. She's saying that the draft is not going to
• 1:34:13
  be good for women because they suck and they're gonna get themselves killed and they're
• 1:34:18
  gonna get men killed. And that's just the truth. And um. The
• 1:34:21
  other thing is when he says, oh, you're saying women can't vote,
• 1:34:25
  and they can't they can't fight in the military. They're being disenfranchised. Is
• 1:34:30
  going to war being like not like basically, yeah, is that enfranchisement?
• 1:34:36
  Is that a is that a benefit? Like? Really, anyway you watch,
• 1:34:42
  you watch too many fucking movies about World War Two? That's so that's
• 1:34:46
  the problem. Um, wrong ones? Well, yeah, like the really
• 1:34:50
  heroic ones is what I'm saying. You watch too much, like Michael Bayshit,
• 1:34:55
  like you don't look at the real world, you know, and how
• 1:34:58
  freaking miserable. Um services, Yeah, not just dangerous, it's miserable.
• 1:35:05
  And yeah, like the problem is that if women aren't expected to do service,
• 1:35:10
  they get into wars that are ridiculous. Um. And if wars that
• 1:35:17
  could be avoided if female leaders, if the negotiation was taking place between people
• 1:35:25
  who had skin in the game, who had an invested interest in not fighting
• 1:35:29
  this is the problem, or or who could have invested interest in not fighting.
• 1:35:32
  Most most kings, most like Prime Minister's presidents, like they don't they
• 1:35:39
  don't have any skin in the game right in terms of like they're not going
• 1:35:43
  to be asked to go out on the battlefield, but they do understand what
• 1:35:50
  it was like to have to sign that little registration form and say yeah,
• 1:36:00
  if we go to war, I'm my number might come up. Elvis Presley
• 1:36:08
  was drafted. He was furious that he was drafted and Jerry Lee Lewis was
• 1:36:15
  not because Jerry Lee Lewis continued his music career while Elvis Presley was serving.
• 1:36:27
  So you know, it's it's like when you have that obligation, and there
• 1:36:31
  are a lot of European countries and Asian countries where service is mandatory for two
• 1:36:40
  years, four years, whatever, Right, it's it's it's not a matter
• 1:36:44
  of signing up just in case there's a draft. It's a matter of like
• 1:36:47
  you're conscripted into the military and you have to serve Korea it's two years.
• 1:36:56
  So yeah, Denmark it was like three years. He's still controlling the framing
• 1:37:01
  as well, Okay, because oh holy the problem here is this idea that
• 1:37:08
  women not having the vote is oppression. Okay, if something comes with a
• 1:37:15
  with a with a payment, like something that you have to pay. I
• 1:37:18
  mean, society would not tolerate women in World War One dying the way men
• 1:37:25
  were, Like, yes, that is like we wouldn't tolerate animals dying the
• 1:37:30
  way men were dying in World War One. Yeah, Okay, you have
• 1:37:32
  to understand that there was no way society was going to send women into war
• 1:37:36
  like that. All right, we're barely tolerate it now that I don't know,
• 1:37:44
  like our our troops don't have to face artillery or any kind of air
• 1:37:48
  air support or ever have to look be close enough to an enemy to look
• 1:37:55
  them in the eye. Yeah, but okay, So the point is,
• 1:37:59
  the overall point is that this has been framed as oppression of women when it
• 1:38:02
  isn't. No, it is not. It is not oppression of women,
• 1:38:10
  especially since women have that influence across the pillow in terms of how their husbands
• 1:38:15
  vote. Yeah, I mean, look at like a wos that campaign posters.
• 1:38:20
  Ladies, get your husbands to vote for so and so. They wouldn't
• 1:38:26
  have wasted the ink and paper in the late eighteen hundreds if it didn't work.
• 1:38:31
  Yeah, Like, look at the whole thing with the French trying to
• 1:38:34
  send a cortisan to influence the French? Are they the British King, which
• 1:38:39
  I actually I think she did end up doing, but they spent a whole
• 1:38:43
  bunch of money on that. We'll think about that every woman or every man
• 1:38:45
  with a vote or almost every man with a vote has a woman with that
• 1:38:49
  power over him, or multiple women, his mother, his wife, maybe
• 1:38:55
  his sisters, his sisters, daughters. I mean, yeah, like there
• 1:39:00
  there's already a way for women to influence the vote prior to even having it,
• 1:39:06
  and then to give them the vote without the corresponding expectation of service to
• 1:39:11
  the state creates an enormous injustice. Yeah, not even not even mandatory war
• 1:39:17
  work, not even sewing uniforms or or picking up community service, picking up
• 1:39:26
  litter from the sides of highways. Yeah, no, like they weren't.
• 1:39:30
  They weren't. They weren't made to do any service to the federal government.
• 1:39:40
  So it's like for nothing, and that's not that is creating. So we
• 1:39:46
  went and they didn't even have to pay extra taxes. We went from it.
• 1:39:50
  I could even see it. I could even see it if their income
• 1:39:54
  was taxed at twice the rate men's was to make up, I could just
• 1:40:00
  some kind of sacrifice. But women had to do nothing, none of it.
• 1:40:03
  And in fact, they didn't even have to do it. Every group
• 1:40:05
  of disenfranchised men had to serve in wartime before they were even considered for the
• 1:40:11
  vote. Not women. Okay, they just got it. So this is,
• 1:40:15
  this is, this is, and this is framed as some kind of
• 1:40:17
  huge oppression of women prior to it, Well it wasn't. And after it
• 1:40:24
  created a very very unfair advantage towards women and female citizens. Okay, period,
• 1:40:31
  And that is the important part. Getting into the nitty gritty of oh,
• 1:40:35
  wells do you want women to be enfranchised? Do you not want him
• 1:40:39
  to go I will? What about service? That is all bullshit. The
• 1:40:42
  problem is the framing, just like what you were saying initially, Karen,
• 1:40:46
  that she's like allowing him to put to bring this into the weeds, bring
• 1:40:50
  it back to the problem is the framing. The specific issues of how to
• 1:40:58
  arrange all of this is irrelevant. The idea that this was oppression of women
• 1:41:03
  is wrong. Yes, and again you have to like you have to cut
• 1:41:09
  off in the bud when he says the right to vote, you have to
• 1:41:14
  say it's not a right, it's not a right, it's a responsibility.
• 1:41:17
  There's a big difference, like if you But the thing is is that the
• 1:41:20
  more and everybody does this, Conservatives do it, lefties do it all the
• 1:41:26
  same. If they call it a right, then it becomes something that cannot
• 1:41:30
  be criticized. But it's not a right because when men vote, because they
• 1:41:34
  all have to sign up for selective service, they vote taking into consideration the
• 1:41:40
  possibility that they could be voting for a warmonger or for someone who's going to
• 1:41:44
  tax the crap out of them and take their money from them and redistribute it
• 1:41:47
  to other people, namely women. But when women vote, they don't.
• 1:41:51
  You can have like the most warmongery president ever or prime minister or whatever,
• 1:41:57
  and if that guy just promises gives to women and he panders to women,
• 1:42:00
  they'll vote for him because they don't have to worry about going to war,
• 1:42:03
  they don't have to worry about about getting the shit tax out of them.
• 1:42:06
  They just vote in their self interest. They vote for what they want.
• 1:42:11
  He offers gibbs, They get that. They they they they Why does Trudeau
• 1:42:15
  keep winning other than like whatever sketchy shit goes on because he says nice things
• 1:42:19
  about women, because he says I'm a feminist, and women vote for that.
• 1:42:24
  They do. They don't vote because they care about like what's happening to
• 1:42:28
  the economy, because they get money no matter what. Because the men will
• 1:42:31
  get taxed, right, that's the thing like you cannot alternatively yeah, or
• 1:42:39
  alternative alternatively what what? Well? Like men with resources tend to want to
• 1:42:45
  give those resources to women. Yeah, and they get taxed, That's what
• 1:42:47
  I'm saying. Like, it's just they're just double dipping in in the whatever
• 1:42:53
  men produce. And women will never vote against their self interest, no matter
• 1:42:59
  how base it is. So if they're just voting for Gibbs, then they
• 1:43:02
  will. And you know, politicians know that. That's why they all paner
• 1:43:06
  to women. And it's not just because women are the majority of the voting
• 1:43:10
  block. It's not just because women are more likely to go out and vote,
• 1:43:14
  but it's because it's so easy to just be like, oh, I
• 1:43:16
  care about you. You know you're a woman, I know how oppressed you've
• 1:43:19
  been throughout history. And on top of that, if they vote for war
• 1:43:23
  mongree presidents, then fewer men, Like, more men go to war,
• 1:43:27
  few of them come back, and all of a sudden, O, there's
• 1:43:29
  even more female voters than men, so they get to win more elections.
• 1:43:33
  So like, do you if you if you cannot allow people to frame the
• 1:43:39
  vote as a right, it must be framed as a responsibility, because that's
• 1:43:43
  what it is. When people make choices with their ballots, they are affecting
• 1:43:48
  everybody and they have to know that. And so if you frame this as
• 1:43:53
  a right, you have to tell them it's not a right. A right
• 1:43:55
  is something that you are given from birth that people can not take away from
• 1:44:00
  you. It's not shit the government gives you, you know. So that's
• 1:44:05
  that's it. That's just the way. That's what you have to because Ethan
• 1:44:09
  can't respond to that. I mean he can go all people say, well,
• 1:44:12
  it's we call it a right for a year there, everybody's wrong.
• 1:44:14
  I don't care who you bring up. You can tell me so and so
• 1:44:16
  important person from this side of the island, that's side of the isla said
• 1:44:20
  it was a right. I'm gonna be like, yeah, they're fucking wrong.
• 1:44:23
  They're moron. It's not a right. That's just not how it works.
• 1:44:27
  And it wasn't considered a right initially. No, it's a responsibility.
• 1:44:30
  It's not even a privilege. It's a responsibility, you know. Yeah,
• 1:44:34
  And what it came with, like before, it wasn't considered a right because
• 1:44:41
  and when men received the vote, it wasn't considered a right ever. No,
• 1:44:45
  they had to literally earn it. First. They had to say I
• 1:44:48
  am willing to take a bullet for this entity, this country that I want
• 1:44:56
  to say in And they had to demonstrate that willingness before they were even considered
• 1:45:01
  to be allowed to have a say. And it's completely rendered invisible by these
• 1:45:06
  arguments that people. Doesn't matter how you want to structure things if we can't
• 1:45:12
  create a comparable level of sacrifice for women, investment in their society, any
• 1:45:18
  level investment in their society, responsibility to their society of some kind. Maybe
• 1:45:25
  it can't be combat, Maybe it has to be some kind of other public
• 1:45:29
  service or expectation placed on them. If we can't do that, they don't
• 1:45:35
  have a right to have or they should not have the responsibility sorry, thank
• 1:45:41
  you, Brian, the responsibility of a say in a society they have no
• 1:45:45
  skin in in a society that they look at and they say, well,
• 1:45:49
  how does it benefit me? How many people can we sustain with that attitude
• 1:45:57
  of looking at society and saying, wow, it exists to benefit me?
• 1:46:02
  Well, well, who is going to generate that benefit if everybody believes that?
• 1:46:08
  Yeah? Within oh god. There was a study done in Switzerland because
• 1:46:15
  they had the vote fairly late, right, women had the vote fairly late,
• 1:46:21
  and I think it was nineteen seventy eight or something like that, and
• 1:46:27
  they found that the Swiss government grew no shit. The debt grew exponentially after
• 1:46:38
  that to like something like twelve times its size. So it was like it
• 1:46:44
  was just like it was going along, just you know, minding its own
• 1:46:47
  business, you know, crawling along the X axis, and then all of
• 1:46:55
  a sudden, nor much. You incentivize people to vote only for the shit
• 1:47:03
  that they want, and they vote for it. Who would have thought,
• 1:47:08
  yeah, no, and but but the thing is right, And you even
• 1:47:11
  look at voting patterns between married and single women, right, So married women
• 1:47:19
  tend to vote more conservative because they want their husband to keep as much of
• 1:47:27
  his income as possible yep. And unmarried women vote liberal right, small el
• 1:47:35
  small cy right vote liberal because they just want the gibbs from the government from
• 1:47:43
  men, because they don't they don't well, they don't see it as coming
• 1:47:47
  from men. They see it as coming from the government. Yeah, the
• 1:47:51
  government's magic money trees that they grow in the of the main building and the
• 1:48:00
  whole landscape of all of this only makes sense if we come from the assumption
• 1:48:06
  that women feel entitled for society to benefit them, and everybody else believes that.
• 1:48:13
  How, that's how society should be structured. That's the only way that
• 1:48:17
  our satan became a society that benefits men over women, and that any allegation
• 1:48:24
  of engaging in Satanism became like social death. Like that's the only way it
• 1:48:28
  makes sense, at least to me. I don't know if that makes sense
• 1:48:30
  to anyone else. Well, no, it's it's basically that it is like
• 1:48:38
  the devil, right, because the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing
• 1:48:45
  humanity that he didn't exist. Well, I'm just saying that that's female power.
• 1:48:54
  Female power is like the devil. It's greatest trick, it's most successful
• 1:49:00
  trick was convincing the rest of the world that it didn't exist. Yeah,
• 1:49:05
  then that's how we can have a supposed patriarchy for the benefit of men at
• 1:49:11
  the expensive women. And if you ever say that maybe we should consider benefiting
• 1:49:15
  men, you are instantly a social pariah in this society that's structured for the
• 1:49:20
  benefit of men at the expensive women. You say that, oh, maybe
• 1:49:24
  we should consider the situation. Ah out out onto the ice blow with you
• 1:49:29
  got down over the cliff. This is Sparta cliff send to send to the
• 1:49:34
  phantomone or spartet. Yeah, I guess. And we can't even be honest
• 1:49:41
  with that. We can't even just be like, yes, we just care
• 1:49:45
  about women, Yes, we want to give women beaties. Well, then
• 1:49:48
  we have to start discussing how long are we going to be able to do
• 1:49:51
  this as a society. Yeah, well we're all ready, We're all ready
• 1:49:58
  like way past that at Allison, I don't know. Maybe we can sell
• 1:50:01
  our great grandchildren and then a great great grandchildren so that we can destroy our
• 1:50:08
  productivity even more, Like shall we continue? I know Karen's gotta go,
• 1:50:16
  like soon, I gotta go in six minutes. We're about a third of
• 1:50:19
  the way through this clip. But I'm saying for me personally, I would
• 1:50:23
  not want to sign up for selective service if I had to pay. So
• 1:50:27
  you think women should be given the choice if they want to do selective service
• 1:50:29
  or not? If then but but but what but but if women get the
• 1:50:34
  choice, it's not selective service, motherfucker. The men don't get the choice.
• 1:50:41
  Like, okay, maybe if women choose Starship Troopers. Yeah, I
• 1:50:45
  was gonna say, yeah, like, if you do the Starship Troopers thing,
• 1:50:48
  which I'm totally down with, and women choose, then they get the
• 1:50:53
  vote. That but then men should also have the choice, and if they
• 1:50:57
  don't choose, then men don't. Those men don't get the vote, and
• 1:51:00
  we can do it that way. But I don't think that that would make
• 1:51:02
  anyone happy. Well, they would make me happy. Yeah, I think
• 1:51:08
  if we're going to vote, we should have no choice like the men do.
• 1:51:11
  So women should be drafted mandatory into selective service. You believe, No,
• 1:51:15
  that's okay, but don't you see I said no, I said,
• 1:51:19
  I said if feminists, like, if feminists want the right to vote right,
• 1:51:25
  then it should come with the draft. It should come. I mean,
• 1:51:27
  it's not called the draft anymore, called selective service. Personally in Pearl's
• 1:51:31
  world, I do not want to be drafted. I do not want to
• 1:51:34
  be in selective service. So I'm having in general in terms of policy,
• 1:51:40
  because obviously I think it's safe to say women in general want to write to
• 1:51:43
  vote right because they don't have to pay for it. Okay, yeah,
• 1:51:48
  mind just go with the whole. Yeah, they can just opt it.
• 1:51:51
  Yeah, I want I want the free orders because it doesn't fucking matter because
• 1:51:59
  this is this is this is not. His ideology is not how do we
• 1:52:02
  structure the draft to be fair. His ideology is we live in a society
• 1:52:08
  that has existed for perpetuity for men's benefit at the expense of women. So
• 1:52:13
  that that has nothing to do with discussing his ideology. So what has to
• 1:52:16
  do with discussing his ideology is whether or not the draft and all of this
• 1:52:24
  shit actually supports it, and it does not. Okay, yeah, men
• 1:52:30
  had to die to get the vote. Women did not. From that very
• 1:52:35
  moment that they got the vote. That was an injustice or a disenfranchisement of
• 1:52:42
  men, because now there's a group of people that doesn't have to die to
• 1:52:45
  get the vote. Okay, they get it because they're more special. Yeah,
• 1:52:50
  right. That is itself a counter argument to his ideology. He believes
• 1:52:57
  that back then we existed in a society that put men's benefit ahead of women's.
• 1:53:00
  Bullshit. If that was true, the men in charge would say,
• 1:53:04
  okay, ladies, well I guess you're going to be doing the next World
• 1:53:09
  War One, and then when you have died for your country, you will
• 1:53:13
  have earned the right to vote. And that wouldn't have actually been putting men's
• 1:53:16
  benefit ahead of women, That would have been putting women's benefit at the same
• 1:53:21
  level as men's. Yeah, okay, just treating them equally. All right,
• 1:53:29
  So right there he's appealings. He's saying, while this is the ultimate
• 1:53:33
  legimus test to my ideology is absolutely correct. And now we're in the weeds
• 1:53:39
  discussing, well, what kind of fucking paolicy who gives a fuck? This
• 1:53:45
  entire thing doesn't prove it disproves what he's asserting, and we're like, why
• 1:53:50
  are we here? Why are we discussing this? Stick to the point of
• 1:53:56
  contention, which is whether or not his ideology is correct. Absolute bullshit.
• 1:54:00
  Yeah, even he knows it's bullshit. I'm pretty sure if he's smart enough.
• 1:54:04
  Oh no, he's not that bright. No, but but he is
• 1:54:09
  extremely manipulative, so that that's the only thing he's got. He's like a
• 1:54:13
  wart. Yeah, he's like, he's like an end. They're not intelligent,
• 1:54:16
  but they are cunning. So all right, one more little let's go.
• 1:54:25
  And so then by your logic, women need to be entered into selective
• 1:54:30
  service, right, but you don't think that should happen, or you think
• 1:54:32
  that's okay. Yeah, I'd rather not not you. I mean, in
• 1:54:35
  general, the women, because women want to vote, So how do we
• 1:54:39
  resolve this issue? Do they get drafted like man? I mean, I
• 1:54:41
  think it's I mean, I think it's unlikely that women will ever have the
• 1:54:44
  right to vote taken away. So I guess moving forward, maybe used to
• 1:54:46
  taxpayers potentially you could do. But that's a whole Yeah, that's a whole
• 1:54:51
  other conversation. But no, I think we're gonna if we're gonna vote,
• 1:54:56
  I think pays mean. Yeah, oh, Ethan, you fucking retard.
• 1:55:01
  Anyway, I'm going on that note. Okay, Ethan Klein, You're a
• 1:55:09
  freaking retard. Okay, okay, And and I stand by that. And
• 1:55:15
  I don't even care if YouTube takes this video down because of it. Okay,
• 1:55:20
  Well, we will try to continue this. I we have maybe tomorrow.
• 1:55:26
  Maybe tomorrow. I do have some time to go. I have to
• 1:55:29
  go to uh. My husband is getting dental work done, and I need
• 1:55:35
  to be there with him because, oh, because he's being put under.
• 1:55:42
  Well he's not being put under. It's because he's terrified or he doesn't he
• 1:55:45
  doesn't. He really doesn't like dental work. So who's his dentist? Is
• 1:55:49
  it Steve Martin from Little Shop of Horrors? Because I mean no, he's
• 1:56:00
  got a very nice and get off on the pay nine. All right.
• 1:56:06
  It's a situation where, you know, some people have fear. Okay,
• 1:56:11
  okay, maybe Friday if we can squeeze into oh my god, Friday.
• 1:56:16
  Okay, I have a look I'm doing. I'm doing a fireside chat on
• 1:56:20
  Friday. Maybe it would it would have to be later in the day though,
• 1:56:26
  So I have a fireside chat with uh um Young Rippa also known as
• 1:56:32
  got it by am I dropping his name? It's not on my mind.
• 1:56:35
  But anyway, I've been trying to get this guy on for at least a
• 1:56:40
  year and and everyone's asking me to do it, and I finally got it,
• 1:56:44
  Eric July, Thank you, yeah, Eric July. And I finally
• 1:56:46
  got him, and I'm really looking forward to this. So it's on Friday
• 1:56:51
  at three I think it's three pm Eastern, so we can do it after
• 1:56:55
  that. Um, so you know if that's if that like after that,
• 1:57:00
  yeah, evening Friday. Evening Friday is pretty open. Um and uh so,
• 1:57:11
  yeah, well that he was rather in. We'll get even well,
• 1:57:14
  we'll actually get to the point where he starts to really begin become a disingenuous
• 1:57:18
  tool. Oh what do you mean that was at the beginning He's already started.
• 1:57:25
  Yeah, that's at the beginning when he when he really get when he
• 1:57:28
  really commits to it. We didn't really commit. You know, we've already
• 1:57:32
  had the inciting incident. Now we need to see him commit. Yeah,
• 1:57:36
  oh all right, all right, thank you, Karen. Karen, you
• 1:57:44
  can go because I got to read some super childs and whatnot, So thank
• 1:57:47
  you. I love you, Karen, bye bye. Ethan will never invite
• 1:57:54
  us on, by the way, ever, no matter how big we get,
• 1:57:57
  because he would get annihilated. Like Pearl is, she's a very um
• 1:58:02
  delicate flower, I think. I mean, she can handle like, you
• 1:58:05
  know, aggressive like ratchet people on her show, but like when it comes
• 1:58:10
  to people like this that are just like fucking lizard people, I think that
• 1:58:15
  she's just like you know, just unable to just call them out when they
• 1:58:18
  do this manipulative shit. I think they're far worse. Like I'd rather have
• 1:58:24
  somebody throwing up an emotional tantrum m and storming out. You know. So
• 1:58:29
  he's already framing he bullied her into a particular position, and now he's framing
• 1:58:35
  and framing and this is a pointless argument. Yeah, and I've actually said
• 1:58:41
  this to people like, I don't know. This is not in my wheelhouse
• 1:58:45
  how to solve this issue. I have no expertise when it comes to combat
• 1:58:49
  effectiveness. I have no idea or lotuistics or any of this shit. This
• 1:58:54
  is not for me to solve. But this is an issue that very much
• 1:58:59
  discredit. It's your assertion that society is constructed for the benefit of men at
• 1:59:02
  the expensive women. And I challenge male feminists who recognize that the draft and
• 1:59:08
  selective service is an injustice, which it patently is, to have that injustice
• 1:59:13
  start to inform their worldview about how society is structured. Yeah, because that's
• 1:59:17
  when you really commit to understanding an injustice, when you allow it to inform
• 1:59:21
  your worldview. Okay, that's an injustice that men faced, and some of
• 1:59:27
  them got the benefit of the vote in compensation, not even compensation. But
• 1:59:34
  the expectation is that if you're willing to die for your society, you have
• 1:59:38
  the understanding necessary to have a say in it. Okay, that's how it
• 1:59:43
  worked for men. If you understand that you understand that this isn't evidence of
• 1:59:47
  women's oppression on It isn't. And even if you allow the possibility that it's
• 1:59:55
  evidence of some kind of discrimination against women, once that was fixed, it
• 2:00:00
  became an incredible disenfranchisement of men that we still have not addressed to this day.
• 2:00:10
  All right, And that's what you need to be talked about, not
• 2:00:12
  the logistics of the logisticizing of whatever this blackened shit is. This is irrelevant
• 2:00:17
  bullshit. And I would hope that if he ever brought one of us on,
• 2:00:23
  preferably Karen, because she's really good at this, that we keep him
• 2:00:29
  on task. This isn't the topic that we're discussing. Topic we're discussing is
• 2:00:33
  the validity of your worldview. Yeah, and this particular issue disproves the validity
• 2:00:41
  of your worldview. Yeah. And also, don't don't let them like when
• 2:00:45
  they start throwing words around, make sure that you understand their definitions of those
• 2:00:50
  words, because they the That's the one of the trickiest things. That's why
• 2:00:56
  I have to hammer hard on this right to vote garbage because it is a
• 2:01:00
  commonly used term. Um. It probably came from feminists, and you know,
• 2:01:05
  suffragets um you know where they started it as though it was a right
• 2:01:11
  from the get go, and you just can't accept it because when you you
• 2:01:14
  don't even have to look at it closely to see that it's not a right.
• 2:01:18
  And so you can't let people use words like rights or democracy, you
• 2:01:23
  know, when reference to United States or so many of these other terms equality,
• 2:01:27
  like you have to call them out on all of that. You have
• 2:01:30
  to be like, what what do you mean by equality? What is that
• 2:01:31
  defined by? What do you mean by rights? What is that? How
• 2:01:33
  do they define that? Because if you don't, they use those words to
• 2:01:36
  make their side sound reasonable and you are, and if you oppose that,
• 2:01:42
  then you're unreasonable. And they also do weird things like well they they presume
• 2:01:48
  an opinion of you, and then when you call them out, what exactly
• 2:01:51
  do you think my opinion is, they have no answer MS. Yeah,
• 2:01:56
  you have to do that too, Yeah, you have those That's very it
• 2:02:00
  is. It is if these people ever, these individuals with this disingenuous argument,
• 2:02:04
  they ever say, well, this is Europe. You tell them,
• 2:02:08
  okay, please state what you think my opinion is. And often, of
• 2:02:14
  course it's just a weird kind of song and dance where they're trying to create
• 2:02:18
  the illusion that you're evil somehow. It's this, this whole, this way
• 2:02:26
  that we discuss stuff is so counterproductive to getting anything done, or understanding anything
• 2:02:32
  or clearly creating a pathway forward. And honestly, it is completely um juvenile
• 2:02:43
  feminine is what I'm going to say. Because you know, if you,
• 2:02:47
  if you are a woman who has matured and taking responsibility for her choices,
• 2:02:53
  you don't communicate in this way. But juvenile feminine, the the childish feminine,
• 2:03:01
  this is how they communicate. Yeah, okay, check, Yeah,
• 2:03:10
  so I thought you had some thank yous. Oh and I also have thank
• 2:03:13
  yous as well. So I will get to that and we'll do that first.
• 2:03:17
  I'll leave, I'll leave it where we are forty minutes in. I
• 2:03:21
  think that Ethan later brings up that feminists we're fighting for to remove selective service
• 2:03:29
  from men, which is a lie. I mean, they may say it,
• 2:03:31
  but they haven't obviously done it. Because whatever feminists set their mind on,
• 2:03:34
  they do get done, but they haven't really done that, even though
• 2:03:38
  they'll say, well, they shouldn't be a draft, but they don't actually
• 2:03:41
  fight for it. The only you know who was doing that. Marc Angelucci
• 2:03:44
  was yeah, okay, yeah. The feminists want to get supposedly in comment,
• 2:03:49
  but only because they want the advancement. I don't think they understand what
• 2:03:53
  the hell they're asking for. Okay, so doctor V, I'll just say
• 2:03:57
  doctor V just in case that is actually a name. Doctor V gives us
• 2:04:01
  twenty five dollars. Thank you, doctor V, and I think what I
• 2:04:08
  think he's new. Yeah, I've never heard that name before. Thank you,
• 2:04:11
  doctor B. Presuming it's the heat. Okay, so thank you for
• 2:04:15
  that twenty five dollars, doctor V. And Sick Fox gives us twenty five
• 2:04:19
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• 2:04:28
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• 2:04:32
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• 2:06:00
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• 2:07:32
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  badge or live streams in the live chat and just let me know what it
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  is that you wanted to say. Then we got and otherwise they'll thank you
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  a great Indoors gives us a hundred dollars, Thank you very much, that's
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  really nice, thank you, and says I've done a hundred kilometers on the
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  bike today, which was tough because I'm not used to it. So here
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  is a dollar equivalent. Please God, no, God no no, not
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  the feminist choir. I actually don't have that sound bite, but I have
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  some other things that could be really annoying. So ZARANX gives us five dollars
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  and said what Karen said regarding the Greatest Evil would be a great clip to
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  draw the eyes and ears. But you guys need to cover more of the
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  video. I largely chalk things up to YouTube twenty second DMCA rule. You
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  guys used to for entire bids in shorter time and succession before that crap rule.
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  Thank you Zaranks for that. I do try, but like you know,
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  I do, I mean, I know you guys came to hear what
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  the video has to say and what Karen and Allison have to say, and
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  you end up mostly just hearing what Karen and Allison have to say. So
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  um, sick Fox gives us ten dollars. I feel I hope you feel
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  my pain is what I'm saying. It gives us ten dollars and says to
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  permit irresponsible authority is to so disaster. To hold a man responsible for anything
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  he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy. Robert A. Heinlan
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  Starship Troopers. He's the author of Starship Troopers. So um, and it
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  seems like a pretty cool dude as far as I am concerned, which is
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  why they call him a fascist. By the way, So, just to
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  use Laurens Southern's statement, women motivate men, Okay, well, then women
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  are not respond for their own motivation. So if you see a failure of
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  motivation which ultimately results in a failure of productivity, then women are too blame
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  and need to take responsibility, but that how can you have both. I
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  actually had some guy try to argue that you could have both. He's like,
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  well, women motivate men, but not all men are motivated by women.
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  I'm like, you're trying to have it both ways. If it's a
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  if a critical number of men are not motivated by women, then it's a
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  completely meaningless statement to say that women are motivated by women. So what Okay,
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  men are motivated by cat pictures of cats on the internet and other things
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  like you. She said that in response to Pearls saying that men are responsible
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  for the majority of the maintenance and production and work of society, and she
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  said, well, women motivate men. Well, there's no way that that's
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  a counter argument unless you're also lying that a critical mass of men are motivated
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  by women, which means that's saying, oh, men are motivated by other
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  things. Is not a way of absolving women from being primarily responsible for motivating
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  men. It's just trying to have your cake and eat it too, trying
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  to fluff women's asses, blow blowviate about their worth without expecting them to take
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  responsibility for their worth. Well, you can't. You can't attribute anything to
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  women that they don't take responsibility for, they have no merit if they do
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  not take responsibility for it, is what I'm getting it. No no individual
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  merit if they do not take responsibility for the influences they have. Okay,
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  all right, so I'm going to wrap it up here, um, and
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  I guess we'll do we'll be we'll do a show tomorrow and then we're doubling
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  least the little that we got through. There is a link to the full
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  thing in the description. It's about three hours and twenty minutes long. But
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  Pearl leaves the show at about two hours and nineteen minutes because she's basically had
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  enough of Ethan's bullshit and just couldn't take it anymore. Of course, he
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  went on to declare victory but whatever, But yeah, check out the link
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  to the full video in the description, and if you if you want to
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  comment on there, just leave Pearl some advice about how to handle these bad
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  faith arguments so that she can do better next time, because she is going
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  to be getting a lot of this kind of attention for a while. And
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  to you all in the next video.