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David Kaplan talks Bears & Cubs, Steven M. Sipple previews Nebraska football & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Our number 2 welcome back Miller and Condon Iowa sports radio
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  network Trent Condon, Ken Miller until 2 off the bench come Sean
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  and Lucas. They take you until 5 overtime
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  Iowa 5 until 6. Centurion Stone sponsors our
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  buddy David Kaplan each and every Wednesday talking Chicago
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  sports at this time and he joins us Cap Trenton Ken, first of
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  all, before we get into the Bears and the Cubs, Congrats.
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  A really good read. Barrett Media did a very nice,
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  nice piece on you. What you mean to Chicago sports
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  and and what Chicago sports mean to you when it comes to doing
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  what you do on a daily basis. That was a good piece, Capra.
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  Congrats. I really appreciate it.
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  Yeah, I had. I got this call from John Rock
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  Mamola, who's been on the radio beat for a long, long time as a
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  program director and now as a columnist for Barrett Sports
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  Media. He's like, hey, brother, you're
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  going to be 10 years at ESPN and 30 plus in Chicago media.
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  Would you do an interview with us?
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  Of course, had no level of expectation.
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  And then my wife saw the article while I was on the air.
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  She's texting me. This article is great.
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  You've got to see this. And so I went to break and then
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  I read it and I was like, wow, very blessed.
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  Very, very blessed. Yeah, no doubt about it.
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  It's a really good read. So I guess let's start with the
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  bears. We'll get to the Cubs.
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  They fought last night on the West Coast.
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  We'll get to that in a second. Just the the bears and cap from
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  the your listeners from, you know, some of the stuff that you
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  talked to some of the former bears that you have on your
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  YouTube channel. Was there a cut that surprised
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  people more than the others? That of the to get down to the
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  53. Was there someone that nobody
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  saw coming? Cap.
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  I don't think there was somebody that no one saw coming.
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  Maybe we thought Ian Wheeler had a chance to stick and maybe he
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  will be on the practice. Squad.
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  We'll see. Zach Pickens deserves to be cut.
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  Tyler Scott got beat out by John A.
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  Walker from Texas. A&M and so I don't think those
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  cuts or those guys making it surprised any of us.
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  I. Think what maybe surprised me is
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  that they are not willing to name a starter at left tackle.
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  I mean, I don't know what we're waiting for, unless the starting
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  left tackle for the majority of the season, let's call it, maybe
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  not the Minnesota game, but for the bulk of the season, if he's
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  not currently, maybe he's not currently on the roster.
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  Interesting. That's where I was going to go.
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  Is that left tackle position? And you know, as good as we
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  anticipate the interior of that line, that still has to be a
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  pretty major issue. It feels like they've been
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  looking for somebody else other than Braxton Jones.
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  He got right on the other side. Who for a first rounder, I guess
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  maybe a tad of a disappointment at this point in his career.
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  So when you say that and say not there, are you looking at trade
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  candidates, what will be looking at?
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  Because I don't guess there's a free agent out there right now
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  that would likely be able to come in and be a tackle starter,
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  right? No, there's nobody.
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  Anybody that has a decent left tackle, they're keeping them.
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  The only name, so to speak, that might be available is Cam
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  Robinson, who signed a $12 million deal one year with the
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  Texans after he left the Jaguars.
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  He was an All American at Alabama back in the day.
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  I think he's 2930 and Cam Robinson lost his gig to the Kid
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  Ursery, who played at Minnesota and was Big 10 offensive lineman
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  of the year, and he is a pure left tackle.
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  I don't know why the Bears did not draft him.
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  Think he went 46 or 48. The Bears had the 42nd pick and
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  they traded it. Maybe to get an extra force.
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  Well if you needed a. He's won the job as a rookie in
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  Houston. That's not like he won the job
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  with the Saints who are going nowhere.
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  He won the job for the Houston Texans who have aspirations of
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  making a playoff run. So if that dude was truly
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  available, then I don't understand why the Chicago
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  Bears, you can take him. The only possible reason, Albert
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  Breer, we had on yesterday on our show, who I think is the
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  best football insider in the industry, Albert said character
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  concerns and that's why he was on the do not draft board of
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  some teams. If that's the case, then the
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  Bears are going to say no thank you because of character.
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  OK, I will tell you at some point you cannot have 53 choir
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  boys. You just can't it.
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  Is a mean, tough sport played by guys with evil intent.
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  When they when a guy comes around the edge, he's trying to
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  stack the quarterback. He's not trying to get there and
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  hand him a Christmas card and go here you go, Merry Christmas.
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  He's trying to kick your you know what?
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  So they didn't take him. I don't know what they're going
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  to do it left tackle. If it's not Braxton Jones, Theo
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  Benedette, is that the guy ready to start?
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  Not sure about that. Cam Robbins is the guy that the
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  Vikings picked up after Darasaw got hurt, right?
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  Yeah, I thought so. Yeah, that's correct.
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  Yeah. Same guy.
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  SO Cap, I guess where are the the media is all over seemingly
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  you're you're part of it in Chicago.
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  Where's everybody on Caleb Williams?
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  It's still depends on how on who you listen to.
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  Depends on who sees it with their own two eyes.
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  There's conflicting reports on Caleb Williams and what they
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  expect out of him in year #2. Yeah, look, the national
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  narrative is much different than the local narrative nationally.
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  You know, you got Ryan Clark on the air yesterday saying he
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  could be the next Anthony Richardson or get the Anthony
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  Richardson treatment where he loses his gig and they bring in
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  a veteran to take his job. That's one of the dumbest takes
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  I've heard in a long, long time. If he loses his job, then Tyson
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  of agent AI believe would be the starter.
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  B. He's not losing his job.
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  Ben Johnson just signed a $65 million deal.
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  He could have gone to Washington a year ago.
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  He had the Bears, he had the Jags, he had the Raiders all
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  begging to sign him. He could have gone anywhere he
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  wanted in the league. And if he made it known that he
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  was wide open, there would have been teams willing to fire their
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  coach to hire him. He picked the Bears because he
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  wants to coach Caleb Williams. Is there going to be growing
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  pains? Are there going to be growing
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  pains? 100% because this is, let's see,
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  he had to learn the Lincoln Riley system and then he had to
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  learn the Luke Jesse system coming out and then they gave
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  him that playbook and then he's Luke gets he's gone.
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  He's not going to come back. So Shane Waldron, you're going
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  to learn Shane Waldron system and then Shane Waldron is gone 9
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  games in. You're going to learn Thomas
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  Brown system and they're going to tweak it like it was all
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  chaos around him and he still threw for 3637 hundred yards.
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  So I fully believe Caleb's the guy.
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  I think there's going to be some growing pains, but I do think
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  he's the guy. So Jaquan Brisker set out a
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  cryptic post after Tyson Baigent got his extension.
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  Brisker was lost after another concussion a year ago in Week 5.
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  He wants a contract extension. Are we?
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  Is there something bubbling under the surface here?
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  I mean, from the Bears perspective, the guys had so
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  many concussions, you can understand why they're not
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  giving him an extension. Yeah, I think that they want to
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  see him get through the season healthy.
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  And if that's the case and they do get through the season
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  healthy, then yeah, maybe we'll put an extension on the table.
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  Absolutely. There could be talk of that.
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  But you make a great point. He's had multiple concussions,
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  multiple issues there. We will find out what happens at
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  the end of the year. If you tell me we're in, you
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  know, Week 12, Week 13, Week 14. The Bears are rolling along to
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  the playoffs and Briskers playing at a Pro Bowl level.
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  Yeah, maybe there's a chance then that they will do that for
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  him. But right now, absolutely not.
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  Cap, I think the usually get involved in this market win
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  totals at least you have in the past when it comes to the Bears,
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  I think it's 8 1/2. Is that accurate trend for
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  Chicago 8 1/2 this year? Where where are you on that
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  number? Cap, do you like either way?
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  I think I would bet the over, but I do think it's a very fair
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  number. I really do.
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  That is not a guarantee that they're going under and it's not
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  a guarantee they're going over. I think it's a very fair number.
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  You said it was 7 1/2. I'd be all in on the over again.
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  I bet the over at 8 1/2. I bet it.
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  Do I feel like, Oh, my God, no, because I don't know how the
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  whole season is going to unfold with a brand new head coach,
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  with another new offense, but they have a lot of talent.
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  Olin Cruz put out a tweet yesterday.
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  And for all of your great listeners, if you don't follow
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  Olin Cruz on Twitter at Olin Cruz, you're missing out.
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  His tweet yesterday said as the discussion was going on about
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  who's the left tackle, Braxton Jones, Theo Benedett, he said.
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  Let's see. You have.
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  The number one, the first round pick at right tackle, darn all
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  right, went 10. You have a $14 million right
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  guard, a $14 million center, a 17 and a half, $1,000,000 left
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  guard who's been first team all pro the last two years and was
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  the Chiefs MVP in 2024. You also have a 27 and a half
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  million dollar wide receiver, a first round wide receiver.
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  You have the number one overall pick at quarterback, a first
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  round tight end, and another tight end making 12 million.
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  Yeah, it's the fault of the guy making 900, Grant, if this
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  offense doesn't work, that's nonsense.
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  And then he's talking about Braxton Jones.
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  So that's where we're at with this team.
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  They better figure this out. That's a great tweet.
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  Cap we a year ago April, we talked a lot about Tori Taylor
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  with you. He had a tremendous rookie
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  season, 47.7 yards per punt and from the buzz, he's even better.
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  The guy was a wizard at Iowa. It's crazy to think that a guy
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  can be that important to a team. But wheel Assad in Iowa, the
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  field position, the importance coffin corner, putting guys
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  inside the five. Tori Taylor is a big weapon.
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  Has it been much talk? I mean, I know you guys aren't
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  in Iowa, so you don't talk punters like we do over here.
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  Has there been much? Tori talk thing is winning.
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  Yes, that's right, during August.
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  There has been some talk. There's still people here that
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  are mad that the Bears, the 4th rump, got a punter when the next
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  pick was Bucky Irving and now they're scouring the waiver wire
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  looking for a running back. It was like Bucky Irving's a
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  stud. Why'd you take a punter?
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  I like the punter pick at the time.
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  I still do because as he acclimates himself to the NFL,
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  and it's not an easy thing, could go from Australia to Iowa
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  to the NFL with the climate that you get at Soldier Field, I
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  think he's going to become a massive weapon.
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  This guy's leg is incredibly strong.
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  But yeah, you still have the same.
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  It's a punter. What are you doing drafting A
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  punter? So that's where it's at around
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  here, so. Change his field position.
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  No doubt about it, Cap. Let's get the baseball.
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  Cubs fall last night. Brewers aren't playing as well
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  as they worry. I mean they were on an
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  unbelievable stork streak of wind to start the month of
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  August. Cubs got it to within 5, falling
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  back after last night. Disappointing loss last night
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  after they came back and took the lead cap.
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  Yeah, they, they just couldn't get enough big hits in big
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  spots. And then Matt Boyd's, while he
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  had good stuff, Matthew Boyd elevated a couple fastballs and
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  they got whacked out of the ballpark, one of them A2 run
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  shot that put the game out of reach by Matt Chapman.
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  And so as I looked at that game and I'm, you know, up late
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  waiting to do my recap and I'm watching the offense, they just
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  they had some opportunities. They just didn't get enough big
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  hits in big spots. First inning, would they have
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  two men on and they take a strike three.
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  Now the strike was definitely outside the box.
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  You got to come up with a hit in that spot.
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  You just do. And so they didn't dare.
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  There was another inning that had traffic, didn't come through
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  there. And so you had these
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  opportunities to add on and you didn't get it done.
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  Yeah, six guys in scoring position.
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  They were two for six, eight overall left on base.
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  Yeah, not good. Cap as we look more big picture
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  with this team and look towards the future because they're going
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  to be a playoff team. Phillies lose Zach Wheeler, the
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  Dodgers last year, they rolled a cobble cobble it together with
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  their bullpen. That bullpen hasn't been nearly
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  as good this year. The Padres are trying to figure
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  out what they're doing with their rotation is the National
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  League. There's top level teams and
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  they're all really good. But could you make a case that
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  this thing might be a little bit more open and open for a team
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  like the Cubs got to get hot? Obviously that's a part of it
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  that this maybe is a little bit more open though in the NL. 100%
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  it's open when the Phillies lose their ace pitcher, when the
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  Dodgers are trying to cobble together they're pitching
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  rotation. And you know, I know Blake
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  Snells back and I know glass Snails back.
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  Those guys are one throw away after having dealt with
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  significant injuries. Kershaw is 40 years old.
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  Yeah, you can absolutely make a run.
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  But just like the Cubs can make a run, so can the Brewers.
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  So can the Mets. I mean, there's teams that are
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  salivating for a chance to get to the post season.
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  Yeah, no doubt about it, cap Kate Horton is now the favorite
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  to win the Rookie of the Year in the National League.
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  What a remarkable story he's continues to write.
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  Yeah, I remember when he got drafted, me and my, you know,
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  big mouth. I go on Twitter and I said, oh,
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  great, we're back. We got a guy with a 484 ERA in
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  college. And then I started watching him
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  throw one day at spring training.
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  I'm like, that guy's got pretty good stuff.
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  Wow. And now I watch him here and I'm
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  like, yeah, that tweet will make me really look smart.
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  And he is a great kid. He is an outstanding pitcher.
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  And I thought the Cubs deserve a lot of credit how they have
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  handled him and gotten him to this point because he's never
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  thrown this many innings. And you're going to need them in
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  October. Yeah, no doubt.
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  There's been a lot of ink spilled about Kyle Tucker and
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  his struggles. Maybe a couple days off helped.
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  It certainly look like a little bit initially.
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  Are people sleeping on say a Suzuki though?
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  I mean, talk about a power drop for him.
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  It's been pretty significant. Also much like we saw with
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  Tucker concerns and how concerned should we be with
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  Suzuki where it looked like maybe he could point to some
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  reasons for Tucker? What are the reasons for Suzuki
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  struggles? He looks terrible, he really
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  does. But you know, somebody ought to
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  tell the $8 million manager that it's OK to bench him for a
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  couple days and say, you know what, it worked for Kyle.
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  Kyle looks better. We're going to stitch you a
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  couple of days. Saya and Owen, you're going to
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  play because why is Owen Casey here and all you're going to do
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  is let him pinch it with two outs in the night, down 3 and no
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  one on it makes no sense to me. Like there's something to be
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  gleaned from being on a big league airplane and being around
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  those guys and in the club house and travel and all that.
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  But enough is enough. Either play him or send him back
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  to the Drake Diner and let him hit them at that.
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  You know, not a lot last thing for me, Kappa, but and back to
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  Kyle Tucker, because you said, I believe you said throughout the
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  summer you thought that they would resign him.
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  Do you still believe that Cap, that the Tucker will be a cub
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  next year? I do.
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  I just don't think it's going to be as expensive as anybody
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  thought it was going to be. That that's where I'm, I'm at
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  with that. I do not believe that he's going
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  to get anywhere near 500 million unless you tell me.
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  Oh my God, the month of September, he hit fifteen home
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  runs, carries the Cubs, you know, to the NLCS and I don't
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  think that's going to be the case.
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  He's a really good player and if the money is reasonable, I would
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  sign him. If someone's going to give him
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  five hundred $600 million, good luck.
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  I'm moving on and playing O in case in right field.
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  But if I can get him to take, let's say he said, I'll do a
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  three-year deal with you, but I want a high AAV 3 for 1/20.
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  Do it. Yeah, for sure.
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  Last thing, Miguel Amaya seemingly dodged a bullet here,
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  Cap. What's the latest on him?
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  What did they expect him back? Probably a couple weeks because
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  he's dealing with the sprain ankle.
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  Yep. But it could be quicker.
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  I mean, he says he's feeling better and then we've already
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  seen him at the ballpark, so we will see where this goes, but
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  they need him back as well. Yeah, Maurice McGuire, nice
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  Grand Slam the other day though. Good for him.
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  Great stuff, Capra, as always, buddy.
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  Thank you. We will talk to you Wednesday
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  night. See you pal.
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  football. I mean, I have a radio show.
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  We have callers, I pay. Attention to my Twitter
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  Grateful that you are. Well, tomorrow night, 8 O clock,
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  Arrowhead Stadium, Cincinnati, the Bearcats, Nebraska, the
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  Huskers probably, I don't know, 8020 as far as what how the fan
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  base will kind of sort itself out.
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  Sip Good to talk to you, buddy. It's got that kind of what
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  you're hearing. Sip as far as obviously Husker
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  fans are going to take over the stadium. 1 would assume what
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  what's the breakdown? Have you heard like 8020?
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  Is that somewhat accurate? 8020 what?
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  What are you talking about? In terms of fans.
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  Fans No. No.
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  There ain't going to be 8020. That's what I said.
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  Of them, yeah, I have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  There's a radio show He's Like You in Cincinnati, and he said
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  he knows nobody. He's going to the game.
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  He's literally, I've talked to him twice in the last week.
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  He was on our show in Lincoln and he said, he said last week,
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  he said I literally know nobody from Cincinnati going to the
• 20:04
  game. And I talked to him yesterday
• 20:05
  again, he goes, hey, still I don't, I still have not run into
• 20:09
  anybody who's going, no, it's not going to be 80.
• 20:11
  It ain't going to be 8020, Kenny.
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  It's not 9 to 1 is what we're talking about.
• 20:16
  How did the game come together? Was this a was this a Cincinnati
• 20:20
  home? Yeah.
• 20:20
  How did this when this series was first announced?
• 20:23
  So this matchup was first announced.
• 20:24
  Was this always going to be a neutral neutral site?
• 20:27
  A sip, do you know? I believe it was always going to
• 20:30
  be a dual site in Indianapolis. Was the original, was the
• 20:34
  original, was the original. But the Keys owners stepped in
• 20:42
  and said, wait a second. I think that they doubled what
• 20:46
  they're what it's a Cincinnati home game.
• 20:50
  Cincinnati gets gets, you know, the pot or most of it.
• 20:54
  And the chief ownership stepped in and said, we'll, we'll, we'll
• 20:58
  double what you're offered in Indianapolis because they wanted
• 21:02
  a college game. So that's why it went to
• 21:05
  Arrowhead. And the Cincinnati's glad to do.
• 21:07
  It's odd because they, you know, they're that'd be close to
• 21:11
  Indianapolis, but you were probably looking at half the
• 21:16
  stadium being pulled and they weren't filled.
• 21:19
  And I don't think they would. They got to think about NIL like
• 21:23
  everybody else. And that's what this, I'm sure
• 21:26
  that's what this money is about. I mean, got paid players.
• 21:31
  So yeah, they had to take, you know, they basically had to take
• 21:35
  it. So that's what the deal is.
• 21:36
  Now they're going to play again. I believe the year is 2033
• 21:40
  issues. Yeah, they'll play again, 2033.
• 21:44
  Return trip. All right, Cincinnati, no
• 21:48
  Huskers are favored, but it's not significant.
• 21:51
  It's less than a touchdown out there.
• 21:52
  Brendan Soarsby comes back at quarterback.
• 21:54
  They got a tremendous defensive tackle and Corleone, the
• 21:56
  godfather on the other side. What does concern you the most
• 22:00
  with this Bearcats team? Because, well, this isn't like
• 22:02
  what we have in Iowa City facing off against Albany IN week
• 22:05
  number. Oh, what concern?
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  I mean, the big talk here and I say here in Nebraska is
• 22:14
  Nebraska, the concern is defensive line.
• 22:19
  That's you know, Nebraska lost. I'm going to say 4 guys they
• 22:23
  lost Ty Robinson. That's the name people by
• 22:27
  recognize over there. He was a big defensive tackle,
• 22:30
  got drafted in the fourth run. He wore a single digit, correct?
• 22:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he wore 9.
• 22:36
  And then Nash Uplocker was good starter.
• 22:40
  Jamari Butler transferred to LSU and then they had a guy, a kind
• 22:45
  of a stand up backer, Jack linebacker MJ Sherman, who's a
• 22:48
  big, big, not huge backer, but good against the run.
• 22:52
  Lost all those guys. And now you just wonder, you
• 22:56
  know, you wonder how they're going to hold off up front that
• 23:00
  that they're asking some young guys to be good before their
• 23:04
  time. I mean, when I say that I'm not
• 23:07
  going to give a seminar here, but Ty Robinson really wasn't a
• 23:12
  major factor until a senior year, right?
• 23:15
  Junior year, senior year. Then sick isn't a sixth year.
• 23:20
  Last year, you know, one of those guys, Nash, wasn't a fat
• 23:24
  Nash, not a factor there as a sophomore.
• 23:28
  Sue here wasn't really a factor, not a major factor.
• 23:33
  So late the sophomore season, if I remember right, and now you're
• 23:38
  asking these guys, he's like Kiona Davis, sophomore, Riley
• 23:42
  Van Popple, sophomore, Williams Winery, big time transfer from
• 23:47
  Missouri, red shirt freshman. You're asking those guys, you
• 23:50
  got to be good now. You're going to have to hold up
• 23:53
  now. And it's a lot to ask, frankly.
• 23:56
  I saw that the black shirts were handed out after they gave up
• 24:00
  seventy. Shouldn't they retired the black
• 24:02
  shirts? What's that say that again?
• 24:07
  Just the, the black shirts, the black shirt, that was the thing
• 24:09
  that I think of of back in the day.
• 24:11
  The black shirts. What does it mean to me?
• 24:14
  Because it that's a different era.
• 24:16
  That's a different, what I think of the black shirts because
• 24:19
  Nebraska, though they've been better defensively the last
• 24:20
  couple of years. I don't think of what I used to
• 24:22
  think of the black shirts. What does it mean, though?
• 24:24
  The Husker football in the black shirts and and even today, even
• 24:27
  though that defense isn't what it once was.
• 24:30
  Well, there's always hope. I mean, first of all, you know,
• 24:33
  that might be. Pretty good this year.
• 24:35
  And it's a tradition that in traditions, you just don't turn
• 24:39
  your back on, you know, it's that's a staple, that's a staple
• 24:45
  Nebraska tradition trend. And I mean, it's you just don't,
• 24:51
  it just doesn't go away. You just don't you keep that
• 24:54
  one. And I've never really heard it
• 24:56
  disgusted would ever go away. It's still something that was,
• 25:02
  it began here in the 60s. It's, you know, it's critical.
• 25:08
  It's critical to this place. It's the Black shirts, the only
• 25:12
  defense in the country that really has a name.
• 25:14
  Yeah, they've fallen off. But what if they get good again?
• 25:18
  Then you bring it back. No, you just keep it.
• 25:20
  That's the way I look at it. SIP What kind of weapons have
• 25:25
  Nebraska found for Dylan Rayola this year?
• 25:27
  Have they got, I know there's a Kentucky transfers, another
• 25:30
  transfer. I can't think of where he's
• 25:31
  from, but they went to the portal, got a couple of kids to
• 25:34
  catch the ball. What kind of targets will Rayola
• 25:37
  have this year around him? The two best receivers,
• 25:40
  transfers, you mentioned Dane Key, he's our number one guy.
• 25:45
  He's a he's I, I must say, 3/2/10 three-year starter
• 25:50
  Kentucky or or very or let's say this very productive for three
• 25:55
  years at product at Kentucky. He's #1 #2 is Isaiah Hunter,
• 26:01
  their second best receiver. Isaiah Hunter's from Cal got 40
• 26:05
  hauls at Cal last year. He's he, he was banged up in
• 26:09
  camp a little bit came out of it and he's, he's defined the
• 26:13
  number 2. So yeah, they're his top 2
• 26:15
  targets are transferred. And I, you know, I saw an open
• 26:19
  practice. They let they let the media
• 26:23
  watch one practice in its entirety and he was out that
• 26:29
  day. Minor injury.
• 26:31
  He spies back. Hunter is a blazer.
• 26:36
  I mean, he can really run and I'm excited to watch him.
• 26:39
  He's a deep threat guy. And not just that, though I
• 26:44
  don't want to portray him as that, but he I could see him
• 26:48
  catching. I also could see him catching A6
• 26:50
  yard pass, spinning out of a tackle and just out running
• 26:52
  everybody, that type of guy. Speaking of upfront that you
• 26:57
  talked about there at the top sip, I want to get your
• 26:59
  perspective on Williams. Don't worry who comes in.
• 27:02
  He was a five star coming out of high school, goes to Missouri
• 27:04
  last year and barely played. He's a red shirt, only played in
• 27:08
  four games. So what have you heard about
• 27:11
  him, his impact because coming out of high school, everybody a
• 27:14
  was surprised he went to Missouri and secondly said that
• 27:16
  this kid was that he was going to hit right away.
• 27:20
  What have you heard out of his camp?
• 27:22
  Well, here's what Here's the deal with that Trent.
• 27:25
  I think he just he didn't have much of A spring here.
• 27:29
  He was here in the spring and just what there wasn't much to
• 27:34
  say, you know, just didn't kind of a blah, not much to say then.
• 27:42
  I mean, I said that all offseason.
• 27:44
  I said whenever he's got to come ready in August and have an
• 27:47
  August and and and dig in and he did.
• 27:51
  He not that he listened to me, but I'm not implying that at
• 27:57
  all. In fact, that'd be really
• 27:59
  ridiculous. But the he did have an August
• 28:02
  and he's number one on the depth chart now.
• 28:04
  Now, what's that look like? You'll it'll it'll mainly
• 28:08
  manifest itself in pass rush situations, but he's good enough
• 28:12
  against the run that they put him #1 on the depth chart.
• 28:15
  So when Nary dies, I mean, just one of those guys that went off
• 28:22
  the bus, I mean, first, first, he's 656-6255.
• 28:29
  Kenny, looks like you're old enough to remember Randy
• 28:31
  Gregory. Oh yeah, he looks, he looks like
• 28:34
  a bigger Randy Gregory. Now think about that for a
• 28:38
  second. Now, I don't know that he'll
• 28:41
  play like Randy Gregory. Randy Gregory was was a special,
• 28:46
  special player. I don't know that you'll get
• 28:48
  that if you do. Well, I look at the team
• 28:52
  different. Yeah, if if he's like Gregory,
• 28:54
  I'll look at this. I'll look at the defense
• 28:56
  differently. Yeah, Gregory cost himself
• 28:58
  millions in the NFL, right, Dallas?
• 29:00
  And then if I think he finished in Denver, but he had his
• 29:02
  demons, if memory serves. You know he had demons.
• 29:06
  Yeah, back to the Missouri transfer.
• 29:09
  That's the kid. Apparently they spent more money
• 29:11
  on him in the portal than anyone else.
• 29:13
  Zip. Is that right?
• 29:13
  Is that accurate? Let me think about it.
• 29:18
  Would be he or Pritchett the left tackle?
• 29:21
  Elijah Pritchett, they they brought in a tackle from
• 29:25
  Alabama, so you can imagine the price.
• 29:28
  That's right there. Yeah.
• 29:30
  So it's one of those guys when Airy big time five star high
• 29:35
  school Missouri transfer edge rusher, those are those guys
• 29:40
  cost a lot of money. So it's one of those. 2.
• 29:43
  Except we're going to talk to you weekly and I'm, I'm not
• 29:46
  going to, you know, gloss over kind of him the acronym and
• 29:49
  Houston Christian games. But once we get to the big 10 on
• 29:51
  the 20th of September, I'm sure you've seen Underwood's quote
• 29:54
  that the the college football has never seen a freshman like
• 29:58
  me, which is certainly ballsy to say because there's obviously
• 30:01
  been some good ones that have come before him.
• 30:04
  Underwood, that'll be his first Big 10 game, and he'll do so in
• 30:09
  Lincoln. I'm sure that comment didn't get
• 30:11
  past too many people. And again, it's a it's a ways
• 30:13
  away. But what do you make of that
• 30:15
  comment sip by the Michigan quarterback?
• 30:18
  Underwood saying he's the best freshman to ever play college
• 30:21
  football, essentially. Well, I drive as youthful
• 30:24
  indiscretion, but it doesn't I, I kind of appreciate the
• 30:30
  confidence. I, I hope he's confident.
• 30:33
  You've got to be confident that position without being
• 30:36
  unreasonable about it. I don't I don't regard that as
• 30:40
  unreasonable. I don't think it's unreasonably
• 30:43
  the kid and he's probably pretty good now.
• 30:45
  He'll he'll find out the world's pretty tough in this league and
• 30:50
  he's got maybe he's already he's skinny.
• 30:53
  Could be already taking that into account.
• 30:56
  I hope he is because it's rough. As you know, it's this league is
• 31:00
  God Dang. I'll tell you what I'm pissed
• 31:02
  off with people in Iowa right now.
• 31:04
  OK, I watched that game. Iowa State and Kansas State, if
• 31:08
  those are the two best teams in the Big 12 or two of them the
• 31:12
  Big 10's miles ahead of the Big 12.
• 31:14
  I mean, that's I mean, they're they're fine teams, but Ben,
• 31:20
  those are the favorites to win the Big 12.
• 31:24
  I mean, that's not Oregon you're watching out there or.
• 31:27
  Penn State or no? No, that's not.
• 31:30
  That's a fall. That's another Ohio State's in a
• 31:33
  different realm than those. Parodies is the order of the
• 31:37
  season in the Big 12. But your, your, your statement's
• 31:40
  not unfair. It's not.
• 31:41
  Cap one, one final thing, Sip. You're going to be doing your
• 31:46
  football stuff, right? You're going to be tweeting and
• 31:47
  you're going to be writing columns.
• 31:48
  You're going to do the interviews after the game and
• 31:50
  all that, but you have one thing that you got to figure out where
• 31:53
  is Taylor and Travis going to be sitting because he's a
• 31:56
  Cincinnati alum? I mean, they they got to be
• 31:58
  there. It's in Arrowhead.
• 32:00
  They're going to be in the building.
• 32:01
  Sip. Are you going to find yourself
• 32:02
  into their booth? I wish I could.
• 32:06
  Do you know they're going to be in the building?
• 32:07
  I don't know for sure. I I got to think he.
• 32:09
  Hasn't returned my call yet, so I'm just waiting.
• 32:13
  I don't. Yeah, I got.
• 32:14
  Yeah, I think. I bet he is.
• 32:17
  I mean, the reason I I react that way, I think you're
• 32:20
  probably right. I got to think that that they
• 32:23
  just got engaged. They're probably.
• 32:25
  I hadn't. Heard blissful stage where they
• 32:29
  don't want to be without each other, which is a stage I can't
• 32:32
  even imagine at this point but I but I I don't I would think
• 32:42
  you're probably right and I'm not gonna speak them out I'm not
• 32:46
  it's a. Missed opportunity, gonna get
• 32:48
  those clicks so. I'm like I gotta.
• 32:50
  Write about like football, you know, I don't think what, what,
• 32:54
  what would I do if I came upon? I don't think.
• 32:56
  So, yeah, I'm with you. I bet he's there.
• 33:00
  I bet he'll be there. I doubt she's there.
• 33:03
  Yeah, I doubt she's there. Well, sip, if she is a tracker
• 33:06
  down, give us a give her our best for Miller and Condon.
• 33:10
  We we love doing this with you, pal.
• 33:11
  We'll talk to you next week. I have fun when you go to Kansas
• 33:14
  City after your radio show tomorrow.
• 33:17
  Yeah, you. Understand.
• 33:20
  Yeah. Do a show from 6 to 9 here.
• 33:22
  Yep. And then we're leaving it.
• 33:24
  Then we're leaving at 10. And back in the middle of the
• 33:27
  night sometime. We're going to stay.
• 33:31
  We're staying over. Yeah, we're going to stay over
• 33:33
  and come back on Friday. Don't blame you, be a late game.
• 33:36
  Good stuff after you're all coverage and everything's filed.
• 33:38
  Good stuff. Simple talk to you next week.
• 33:40
  Thanks for doing this, appreciate it.
• 33:42
  Kenny and Trent, you're the best.
• 33:44
  See you later. Good to talk to you, Steve and
• 33:45
  him. Simple.
• 33:48
  He's a funny dude. Get a kick out of him, yeah?
• 33:51
  He's great, he really is. We'll take your time out.
• 33:55
  Trent's plays of the day are next.
• 33:57
  Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 34:00
  Hi Miller and Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 34:04
  Our final segment here on a Wednesday.
• 34:07
  Plenty of college football tomorrow.
• 34:08
  So Thursday's begin. Football, right for the
• 34:11
  foreseeable future because NFL kicks off the following week and
• 34:16
  then it's Thursday Night Football.
• 34:18
  It'll end, and I mean some college football on Thursday,
• 34:21
  but they've kind of got out of the way, made a bigger deal out
• 34:24
  of Fridays. But right or wrong, wrong, I
• 34:27
  agree. I don't disagree, by the way,
• 34:29
  Speaking of high school football, and we were in a
• 34:31
  roundabout way, Joe Stacy's going to join us tomorrow.
• 34:35
  He will anchor along with Nathan Fischer, football Friday nights
• 34:38
  here on KX&O. You'll give us an outlook,
• 34:42
  Trent. You'll be obviously a big part
• 34:43
  of that conversation in your own right as you'll be out every
• 34:46
  Friday night doing games, play by play for I Heart here, Des
• 34:49
  Moines. You'll be on the FM dial on the
• 34:53
  bull, which I'm going to get it right one of these years.
• 34:54
  It's 96.9, You got it. How about that?
• 34:57
  Nailed it 96.9. Took a half decade?
• 35:00
  Really. That's where you'll do your
• 35:03
  game. How many?
• 35:03
  How far ahead have you worked? I mean, obviously you got Week 1
• 35:06
  Valley Dowling. How far on the schedule are you?
• 35:09
  Are you just going to flex, kind of fly by the sea of your pants?
• 35:12
  Who's ever hot? Yeah, I mean, it's tentative.
• 35:14
  I have 9 weeks scheduled right now.
• 35:16
  Ankeny at Waukee Week 2 going over to Iowa City.
• 35:19
  A City High will play host to Northwest Waukee in week 3.
• 35:23
  Valley Waukee Walk four week 4. Ames, Roosevelt Week 5.
• 35:26
  So we kind of have a mapped out. We'll hit pretty much all the
• 35:28
  suburban schools and then take you through the playoffs, all
• 35:31
  the way through the Dome and the semifinals in the championship
• 35:33
  game. Will you be?
• 35:34
  At Mediacom Stadium when it gets cold in the heated press box,
• 35:38
  yes. Well done, Yeah, Aims at
• 35:40
  Roosevelt Big 5. Well done.
• 35:41
  Look at ahead. Well.
• 35:42
  It could be a little colder. I might have to slip back a
• 35:44
  little bit on the schedule any of the city school quote City
• 35:47
  Schools going to be. Or else it'll be OK.
• 35:50
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:52
  N, you know, had that little spurt a couple years ago,
• 35:53
  finally ended the long losing streak, but it's just such a
• 35:57
  difficult hill to climb. Yeah.
• 35:59
  I know, I know, it's, it's unfortunate, but maybe Lincoln?
• 36:03
  Did any of the merge? Did Hoover merge with somebody?
• 36:05
  Did that ever get done? Don't think so.
• 36:08
  I don't know either. I'm not sure either.
• 36:10
  Well, we'll talk high school football tomorrow with Joe
• 36:12
  Stacey. He'll preview what he and his
• 36:14
  team are going to do and what time they're going to take the
• 36:17
  air, how long they're going to stay on the air on Friday
• 36:19
  nights. And you'll get underway All all
• 36:21
  the games now are 7, right? Yes, 7:00 here in Central I
• 36:25
  that's at least the big schools have done, yes.
• 36:27
  That's the way it should be. I remember who was the 1st to do
• 36:29
  was E maybe the 1st to go 7:00 I think they were.
• 36:33
  And then, 'cause everybody was 730 back in the day when I was
• 36:37
  in the anchor chair and I was always grateful for Easton was
• 36:40
  hoping that everybody else would follow suit.
• 36:42
  And they got there. They did.
• 36:43
  They did get there. All right.
• 36:45
  You got there with the tennis play yesterday.
• 36:47
  That's not about that's about maybe about it.
• 36:49
  What have you got going tonight as far as betting your plays?
• 36:52
  Sponsored by Circa Sport. Yeah, I got a four pack of
• 36:55
  losers for you. We go.
• 36:56
  We're going to go to the US Open again.
• 37:00
  Let's try it again. Going to go with Francis Tiafo.
• 37:02
  We're going to lay 5 1/2 games in his match up against Martin
• 37:05
  Dam. Junior laying -121 in that one.
• 37:08
  Tiafo -5 1/2 games. What time does he play?
• 37:12
  This afternoon, he's in the afternoon. 3IN baseball, which
• 37:15
  has been dreadful lately. The Mariners.
• 37:17
  I'm going to lay the -145 I'm not a believer in you, Darvish.
• 37:20
  I'm going to do the same with the Cubs tonight.
• 37:22
  Colin Ray, who's been solid. And then I'm going to take a
• 37:25
  shot. Give me Ladolo against Shohei
• 37:27
  Otani tonight. And the Dodgers big number
• 37:31
  there, plus 170 with the red in that matchup.
• 37:34
  They need it after. The Reds have to win.
• 37:36
  Got to get it done and one baseball.
• 37:38
  Mets are winning. Yes, they are 1 baseball.
• 37:41
  Note Max Freed has no hitter going right now.
• 37:43
  Does he? And the team has hit six home
• 37:45
  runs in the game. Yeah, they're up 11.
• 37:48
  Nothing. Yanks have hit six home runs.
• 37:51
  So if it continues and you get to the 7th, do you keep Max
• 37:53
  freed in there? Got you to pause.
• 38:00
  Yeah, well, there's, there's no poem.
• 38:05
  I think so. I think I don't know anything
• 38:07
  about Max Freed. Would he understand?
• 38:09
  Who knows? It's not the big picture,
• 38:11
  though. You got to look out for that.
• 38:12
  We'll see you tomorrow. Coming up next, they're coming
• 38:14
  off the bench. Lucas Strange, Sean Roberts.
• 38:16
  They'll take you until 5. Miller and Condon are here every
• 38:19
  Monday through Friday with you, noon to two to talk sports with
• 38:22
  you. Thanks for being with us on the
• 38:24
  Iowa Sports Radio Network.