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Fraud Friday: The Bluffing Bombers w/ Sydnee Washington · Scam Goddess

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Speaker 1: What's popin congregation is your girl. Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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Speaker 1: From behind the paywall.
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Speaker 2: Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always,
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Speaker 2: stay scheming.
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Speaker 1: Scam, Come rubb and run Scam, Come Ruby and frodam Goddess. Guys,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Scam Goddess. This is a pod dedicated
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Speaker 1: to fraud. Every week we break down the biggest and
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Speaker 1: most interesting scams and heist uh you know, of all time.
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Speaker 1: And every week I bring in an amazing new comedian
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Speaker 1: to help me break down these scams. And today we
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Speaker 1: have the Sydney Washington from New York City. Honey, hey,
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Speaker 1: yes you're catching me right before I go back. Literally,
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Speaker 1: she has a suitcase in the studio. Guys, this is
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Speaker 1: the most Hollywood experience all my run love. It just said, like,
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Speaker 1: what's your relationship with scams? We gotta just talked about
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Speaker 1: like a light scam someone.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so we just we're just gonna get right into
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Speaker 3: it real quick, right, bro, you know I'm in La.
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Speaker 1: Was shooting a short film.
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Speaker 3: Hello booked, busy bro Yes, coins no book busy broke. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: this is a short film doing robona work anyway. I'm
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Speaker 3: I have a role where I have a girlfriend, and
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Speaker 3: in real life I have a I have a girlfriend, so.
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Speaker 1: Boom, like this is nothing. This is my day to day.
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Speaker 1: So he was going method oh all day so great. Also,
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Speaker 1: getting paid in exposure is LA's biggest scam.
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Speaker 3: See there you go, breaking it down one more time.
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Speaker 3: It's not gonna give you money, but we will give
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Speaker 3: you exposure. Oh my god, it's gonna be broken down
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Speaker 3: to the most broken down broken down. This so the
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Speaker 3: person that is my girlfriend on the short film is gorgeous, stunning,
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Speaker 3: like not my type, but just like butch and hot
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Speaker 3: and just was. I was blown away and I was
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Speaker 3: not ready. Yes I was not ready.
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Speaker 1: I was.
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Speaker 3: I saw a photo and I was like okay, But
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Speaker 3: then in real life I was like, oh it's gonna
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Speaker 3: be a problem.
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Speaker 1: But then your body was ready. Your body was like
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Speaker 1: we're ready.
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Speaker 3: I just want everybody to know, the listeners to know
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Speaker 3: that I'm in a whole relationship that's also very open.
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Speaker 3: So this is not my style, Like I don't just
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Speaker 3: give out emotions. I don't feel feelings for people. I'm
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Speaker 3: not the physicality is not there usually.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought, like an open relationship is like
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Speaker 1: you fucking other peop. It's like Will and Jada, like
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Speaker 1: you fucking other people. But then you give all the
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Speaker 1: emotions to the person you're in the relationship with. Will
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Speaker 1: and Jada are rich.
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Speaker 3: I'm so tired of like broke people talking about open.
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Speaker 3: You cannot be open relationship if your threat account is
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Speaker 3: like five hundred.
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Speaker 1: It don't make no sense. You could only be open
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Speaker 1: on the Gypshi goten. Yeah that makes sense though, because
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Speaker 1: I said, like, I'm not doing no three somes unless
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Speaker 1: you're rich, because I would be fucking up, like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, is this polyester and I fucking on Rayon
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Speaker 1: right now with this couple? No paper mache, Honey, you
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Speaker 1: need to be so rich.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't I say when I say open,
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Speaker 3: I say, I know that I'm lacking in certain things.
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Speaker 1: So I need to.
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Speaker 3: Let her have a hot girl summer and do what
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Speaker 3: she does and be an adult about it. Back to
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Speaker 3: the short film, So we're supposed to be kissing. Okay,
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Speaker 3: no tongue or anything, but we're.
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Speaker 1: Did y'all talk about the case before? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she said I don't want it to be weird
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Speaker 3: or whatever. I was like, no, no, it's like a kiss.
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Speaker 3: We had chemistry. As soon as we saw each other.
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Speaker 3: It was like, Oh, this is going to be a
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Speaker 3: piece of cake. Seven hours later, I'm in the back
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Speaker 3: of my head like, oh, we're going to have an affair.
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Speaker 1: That's what's happening. Because I'm just like, this is not
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Speaker 1: just what was she doing to like make it seem
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Speaker 1: like it was like more?
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Speaker 3: She was literally acting the whole time. It's my fault.
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Speaker 3: I'm stupid. I'm going into a situation where it's like, okay,
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Speaker 3: we are pretend. We're pretending, and I put my guard
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Speaker 3: down and I was like, nobody can't pretend with me,
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Speaker 3: Like look at me. He was doing Angelina brad Pitt, Yes,
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Speaker 3: mister and missus Smith.
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Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way you can just not
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Speaker 1: be attracted to me. That's how I feel. But she's sag.
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Speaker 3: And whatnot, so she's probably just like, bitch, what I
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Speaker 3: do this in my sleep?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But like that's I've been on test with people
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Speaker 1: that I've had to kiss, and I wasn't like flirting
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Speaker 1: with them extra heart in between takes. Yo, I was.
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Speaker 1: I was on a set with this guy and he
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Speaker 1: had a big fucking ego. We didn't talk about the
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Speaker 1: kiss beforehand, which you were always supposed to do, and
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Speaker 1: he kissed me. He puts talking to him out. I
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Speaker 1: was so mad that didn't happen. I wanted to fight him.
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Speaker 1: That didn't happen.
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Speaker 3: And honestly, looking back at it, it's like I was
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Speaker 3: the unprofessional one since she it was clear up top
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Speaker 3: I am acting, but also I'm I'm hot, so it's
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Speaker 3: not like she's not gonna have a hard time pretending
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Speaker 3: to be attracted.
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Speaker 1: It to me. But when it was over, it was over.
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Speaker 1: And when did that happened? When did that happened? Literally
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Speaker 1: when it was like, that's a rap, it's a rap.
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Speaker 3: Like so soon as they said God, yeah, being nice
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Speaker 3: so all of you know, when you see a battery
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Speaker 3: full and they's all the way drained.
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Speaker 1: It was, there was nothing. Uh, that's that's I mean,
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Speaker 1: I get that. That's like kind of a Hollywood think of,
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Speaker 1: like you want to be nice to people, flirt though
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Speaker 1: I'm nice to people, but I'm not like making them
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Speaker 1: think that like I like them.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it could just be I'm thinking in the
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Speaker 3: back of my head like maybe it's just me. Like
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Speaker 3: I I got open and I took it to that
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Speaker 3: next level. But that's why I am never breaking up
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Speaker 3: with my girlfriend. We're getting married, because I never want
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Speaker 3: to feel this feeling of rejection just being out in
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Speaker 3: this hot girl summer bullshit, fuck you. I want to
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Speaker 3: be what do you call it? I want consistent girl summer.
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Speaker 3: That's what consistent girls? Yeah, I want I want Oh,
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Speaker 3: I know you're going to be there girls summer.
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Speaker 1: Oh bruh, No, I'm into hot girls summer.
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Speaker 3: Literally, I got scammed by being on set with niggas
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Speaker 3: who working and I'm thinking, oh, this is for play.
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Speaker 1: No, she was working it a little bit. I don't
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Speaker 1: think that that's all on you, because that's extra. She
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Speaker 1: was doing a lot. That's Hollywood though, Why though, why
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Speaker 1: why do they do that? Because in Hollywood it's like
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Speaker 1: you want to be liked by everybody because you don't
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Speaker 1: want somebody to retaliate against you or you don't want
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Speaker 1: to This person is not like that.
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Speaker 3: She's she's very like black militant like white people could
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Speaker 3: burn in the fire type.
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Speaker 1: Yeah you're black. We're both black, guy's not both black.
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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm more of a Oh I do like everybody.
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a personal individual. I'm a people's person.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So but this she, I don't think she's necessarily like that.
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Speaker 3: I think she bes with the people you want to
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Speaker 3: be with.
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Speaker 1: And that's it. Uh So you felt special because you're
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Speaker 1: playing with you because I don't know, I just I
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Speaker 1: feel bad. I wait. I went to bed angry, woke
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Speaker 1: up angry. There's nothing like waking up angry.
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Speaker 3: I woke up furious because it's just like why did
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Speaker 3: you You're such a dumb bitch, Like why did you think?
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Speaker 3: And then I saw her girlfriend and I was like,
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Speaker 3: there's no way she would.
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Speaker 1: Oh she had a girl too, dug, that's what I
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Speaker 1: said up top. But no, I heard you saying she
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Speaker 1: had a girl? Did you scream yourself awake? Sometimes I
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Speaker 1: wake up like screaming. I was literally like you wake
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Speaker 1: up to like, no, I wake up like that. Every day.
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Speaker 1: I woke up. You know how you like push the
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Speaker 1: blankets off of you.
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Speaker 3: That's how I woke up. I was like this shit
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Speaker 3: just dumb. And so now if anybody's like, do you
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Speaker 3: have her? Do you have problems or any issues with
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Speaker 3: kissing or like sex scenes, I'm like absolutely, Oh I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't act that far. Okay.
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Speaker 3: I act to wear the lines and I draw the
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Speaker 3: line and be like, oh I have to kiss you.
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Speaker 1: I don't just kiss. That's not that's not what I do.
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Speaker 1: I heard that's the word. No fuck acting. I'm not
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Speaker 1: about this life. That's how acting set up.
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Speaker 3: No acting is like lines. We in the scene, anything
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Speaker 3: physical like making out and you gotta touch my cat,
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Speaker 3: we go together, okay, God, to touch my cat.
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Speaker 1: It's not a part of acting. If anybody's ever touched
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Speaker 1: on the shop, that was not a part. When I
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Speaker 1: was like, okay, now we're doing the coochie touches scene. Yes, night,
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Speaker 1: that ain't it? Are you sure? That's somebody time? My god? Listen,
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Speaker 1: we all it happens, especially in this industry, Like we're
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Speaker 1: in the weirdest industry where you can like do professional
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Speaker 1: deals in a hotel room and ship like what, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, ain't nobody else got to deal with this?
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Speaker 1: If you had avis rent a car, you ain't doing
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Speaker 1: no deals in the hotel.
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Speaker 3: No, no way. See I'm smarter than that. Don't think
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Speaker 3: that I'm that foolish. But I genuinely was like, oh,
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Speaker 3: something is definitely going down. And then we went to
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Speaker 3: dinner and it was like, why did I come here?
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Speaker 1: I love it, I'm so sorry that this happened. And
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Speaker 1: then I paid for my dinner. You paid for your dinner.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's the biggest scam of all. Well, no, you
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Speaker 1: gotta be like, I'll vemo you and then as soon
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Speaker 1: as they run their car, then you'd be like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, the Wi Fi down, the Wi Fi down,
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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna Vemo. You give me a handle, let
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Speaker 1: me take a picture of it. So I got it.
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Speaker 1: You're so basic. I can I'm affiliated with this. And
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Speaker 1: then you've never been more. You'll know that girl I've
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Speaker 1: been on a short film. You'll never see her again.
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Speaker 1: You think I'll never see her? No, you'll never see her.
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Speaker 1: We following Eachender on Instagram. Uh you have to do that? Why?
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Speaker 1: I feel like, Okay, so now you got to see
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Speaker 1: the growth. You gotta see that even being petty. Now
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Speaker 1: you gotta see the aftermath.
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Speaker 3: But I'm so angry that I can't even really post
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Speaker 3: any stories that's like, oh look at me. Yeah, but
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Speaker 3: she's not even like that. She's very you like, philosophical.
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Speaker 1: You don't know this damn behind the skin type individual.
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Speaker 1: Were all my exes on Instagram just so they follow
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Speaker 1: me back so that I can see me win in.
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Speaker 1: I had so many ex boyfriends at my birthday party.
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Speaker 1: Was crazy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw. I was like, you know, everyone very fun.
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Speaker 3: You're friends with everybody.
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Speaker 1: Gotta be. As a good scam artist, you got to
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Speaker 1: keep your relationships tight but also far enough away that
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Speaker 1: they don't know who you really are. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like I'm getting scammed right now
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Speaker 1: this damn podcast you are, but Miley only Miley. We
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Speaker 1: didn't even take your DNA. Okay, good, all right, scared.
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Speaker 3: Cold.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna hop into historic hoodwinks guys. So historic
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Speaker 1: hoodwinks is where we I regale you Sydney with a
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Speaker 1: historic caper, a hoodwink from scammers that I appreciate, and
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Speaker 1: we'll just talk about it. Okay.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So on November tenth, twenty twelve, which twenty twelve was
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Speaker 1: a big year for scams because twenty twelve was when
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Speaker 1: we all said the world was going in and it
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Speaker 1: ain't in, and then we just was like nevermind. But
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Speaker 1: twenty twelve was a big year for scams and uh
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Speaker 1: probably for water and then like go bags and shit
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Speaker 1: because everybody thought the world was really gonna end. So
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Speaker 1: there was an explosion in a Richmond Hill subdivision in Indianapolis,
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Speaker 1: Indiana that killed two people and caused more than four
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Speaker 1: million dollars of property damage. The home of Montserrat Shirley
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Speaker 1: was the center of the explosion, and the explosion killed
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Speaker 1: next door neighbors John Longworth and his wife Jennifer Buxton,
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Speaker 1: and they also injured several other people. So Shirley and
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Speaker 1: her boyfriend Mark Leonard, and three others were convicted and
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Speaker 1: sentenced to prison, including felony murder charges because this was arson. Duh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't look into a home explosions
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Speaker 1: just like oh damn, Like so sad shit is not
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Speaker 1: just blowing up, bitch, Like who is doing that in
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Speaker 1: New York should be blowing up? It depends on the building.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if the building is old, yes, but if it's
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Speaker 3: like renovated really nice.
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Speaker 1: I always look sideways, like hmmm, this might be a setup.
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Speaker 1: That's true. I think that. So. Shirley was a nurse
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Speaker 1: and she owned a home at the center of the explosion,
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Speaker 1: and she and her boyfriend Mark Leonard also lived at
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Speaker 1: the residence. They told the authorities that they left Friday
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Speaker 1: night for a weekend at Hollywood Casino in Lawrenceburg, Indiana.
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Speaker 1: Hollywood Casino in Lawrenceburg, Indiana sounds like the saddest place
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Speaker 1: on the earth.
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Speaker 3: I don't even want to talk about that. I want
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Speaker 3: to talk about Mark Leonard. He's got two names. I
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Speaker 3: would never trust a man with two first names. It's
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Speaker 3: his two first names.
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Speaker 1: That's how you know he's a scammer because his name
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Speaker 1: sound made up. Mark Leonard probably ain't the name is.
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Speaker 1: It's an Eith. It's probably just fucking I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 1: Keith is the worst name in America. Yeah, so Mark
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Speaker 1: Leonard is probably an obviously for sure a scammer. So
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Speaker 1: they arranged for Shirley's twelve year old daughter to stay
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Speaker 1: with friends, and they boarded their cats Snowball for the weekend.
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Speaker 1: Shirley told the police that she never smelled a natural gas,
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Speaker 1: but that her daughter had thought she was recent Like
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Speaker 1: her daughter basically said, mommy, it smells like gas in here.
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Speaker 1: That's what she told the police. Prosecutors alleged on Friday
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Speaker 1: before explosion, Mark Leonard and his brother Bob spoke with
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Speaker 1: a neighbor who was a citizen energy employee. How convenient,
13:38
Speaker 1: so convenient that your neighbor worked for the energy company.
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Speaker 1: And so they talked to him, and they said they
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Speaker 1: asked him about the differences between propane and natural gas.
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Speaker 3: Nigga, what so they're so obvious, that's that's the most
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Speaker 3: annoying thing called Google. Yeah, like, come on, now, you
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Speaker 3: can go to the library and find out this information.
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Speaker 1: You don't even have to google. Yo, if you really
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Speaker 1: want to commit crimes, you really should just go to
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Speaker 1: the line. Like nobody gonna be able to check out stary.
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Speaker 1: She's say, you can get tons of information. Books still
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Speaker 1: got info.
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Speaker 3: In them, It's true, and you don't have to highlight
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Speaker 3: them at all. You just take a picture and.
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Speaker 1: Then you don't got no witnesses. How you gonna ash
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Speaker 1: on next door and neighbor? So hey, hey, chat, Hey,
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Speaker 1: what's up? How would you do not ere mowing the grass?
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Speaker 1: Oh it looks nice. What fertilizer are you using. It's
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Speaker 1: good out here. So what's the difference between natural gas
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Speaker 1: and propane? Would you know if something blew up if
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Speaker 1: it blew up from natural gas or propane?
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Speaker 3: It's so specific, that's the problem. Like, you're a propane
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Speaker 3: How do you work that into a conversation?
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Speaker 1: You don't like? Oh, your grass is so nice? Love
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Speaker 1: that grass? Oh man? Oh do you use a lawnmower?
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Speaker 1: What kind of gas is in your lawn mower? What
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to segue it in? Naturally?
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know if I can. It's that's
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Speaker 3: exactly how he sounded when he did it.
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Speaker 1: And obviously because the man remembered and knocked on his
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Speaker 1: ass and told the police that they had this weird
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Speaker 1: ass conversation. On the day of the explosion. Another neighbor
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Speaker 1: saw a white van pull into the driveway of Shirley's
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Speaker 1: residence between two pm and three pm.
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Speaker 3: Dum, stupid pull up. Just a van is a dead giveaway.
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Speaker 3: A van is like a crime vehicle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, we know you doing crimes a van and
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Speaker 1: also a prius. It's like TBT, Yeah, it's too much. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we knew immediately it was like crimes. Time for crime,
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Speaker 1: crime time. So the van pulled up and the men
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Speaker 1: were reportedly in the home briefly and hurriedly left. Well, okay,
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Speaker 1: can I also say that Shirley really underestimated how fucking
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Speaker 1: nosy her neighbors are because I ain't never looked at
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Speaker 1: nobody's home and would know that between any hours a
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Speaker 1: van arrived, Like I don't pay attention to my neighbors.
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Speaker 3: Was her neighbor's name, the neighbor's names and hair, Okay,
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Speaker 3: well let's just call him Keith and Ashley. They are
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Speaker 3: not fucking. So people who don't fuck stay in the window.
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Speaker 3: They stay like lurking and busy, and that's what gets
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Speaker 3: them off. It's like if they know other people's business,
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Speaker 3: then they have something to talk about in the bedroom.
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Speaker 3: Besides the point that they're not fucking, so I already
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Speaker 3: knew that was happening.
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Speaker 1: The pillow talk is really so they're doing all this
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Speaker 1: because they're not talking. I believe that. So yeah, so
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Speaker 1: these peeping toms, these window peeping toms, were dedicated, dedicated,
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Speaker 1: because I'm like, how you got hours? Can do you
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Speaker 1: remember this? So the men were reportedly in the home briefly,
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Speaker 1: and then her originally left, so they didn't clocked how
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Speaker 1: they left the home too, which sounds to me like
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Speaker 1: maybe they set off some pro pin they did.
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Speaker 3: They're very messy and obvious about it, like I got
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Speaker 3: gonna pull up to the front door.
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Speaker 1: They did a bad job. This is a horrible job
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Speaker 1: at a scam. I will say, analyzing this scam, I
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Speaker 1: don't approve of these people because they were just so
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Speaker 1: fucking blatant about it. You don't pull up to the
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Speaker 1: front and where is this in Indiana? Yeah, Indianapolis. They
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Speaker 1: don't got shit to do there.
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Speaker 3: Oh, this is making me some And they were white,
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Speaker 3: of course, Okay, I'm just hey, you freaking never know.
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Speaker 1: No, you don't, You truly don't. They didn't even try
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Speaker 1: to hide anything. They were so certain they were gonna
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Speaker 1: get away with this. No, no, just the van up front.
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Speaker 1: No one's gonna question that's the house explodes, you know whatever.
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Speaker 1: I think they would have actually probably got away with
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Speaker 1: if two people didn't die. I think the people dying
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Speaker 1: is really what through the scam off.
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Speaker 3: But you can't have an explosion and everybody live, because
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Speaker 3: then that means it definitely was a setup. I don't
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Speaker 3: know people gotta die. There's gotta be some casualties that
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Speaker 3: go on.
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Speaker 1: But when people die, people ask more questions because they
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Speaker 1: got to figure out, like what happened because these people die.
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Speaker 3: But if nobody dies, then it's a it's a dead giveaway.
17:58
Speaker 3: That's like, Oh, everybody's been a it that this was
18:00
Speaker 3: gonna happen. Oh, y'all all just just so happen and
18:03
Speaker 3: not be in the vicinity when this house went off.
18:08
Speaker 1: No I get when the house went off. I love it.
18:12
Speaker 1: So Bob Leonard's son told investigators that several items were
18:16
Speaker 1: in the van that had been taken from the home,
18:18
Speaker 1: including photos and financial documents. So these thiggas also got
18:23
Speaker 1: all the stuff that they wanted out the house. Like
18:25
Speaker 1: they went in and was like, okay, well we got
18:27
Speaker 1: to make sure we take our texes so that we
18:29
Speaker 1: can file this year. Like nobody does that. You can't prepare.
18:34
Speaker 1: You have to make it look like an accident, y'all.
18:35
Speaker 1: You can't take all the stuff that you need out
18:37
Speaker 1: the house before you explode it.
18:39
Speaker 3: And that's the funny thing is that they had They
18:41
Speaker 3: were like very rational. You you're gonna burn your place down.
18:47
Speaker 3: You can't have any rational you gotta be irrational so
18:51
Speaker 3: people don't see.
18:53
Speaker 1: The actual steps that were made. And they let everyone
18:56
Speaker 1: see every step. Yeah, so Shirley's daughter was placed with
18:59
Speaker 1: a babysitter overnight before the couple went to the casino.
19:02
Speaker 3: The daughter gotta die too, Like this, you can't. That's
19:06
Speaker 3: why it's not an accident. Oh, the cats and the daughter.
19:10
Speaker 1: Everybody survived. They should have let the kids out of here.
19:13
Speaker 1: That's really where they fucked that. They really should have
19:15
Speaker 1: let the cat. They have bought a bird, and white
19:17
Speaker 1: people love animals. White people love animals, So if your
19:20
Speaker 1: cat died, they would have been like, oh my god,
19:22
Speaker 1: this is a real tragedy. I know you ain't blow
19:24
Speaker 1: your cat up on purpose. Yep. Yeah, you're right. The
19:27
Speaker 1: cat or the daughter needed to die. Rule number one.
19:31
Speaker 1: One of them pets gotta go. They gotta die sacrifices
19:34
Speaker 1: for the scam. You can't have a perfect scam where
19:36
Speaker 1: nobody gets hurt and nobody dies. You know. But I
19:39
Speaker 1: will say, they probably should have let the daughter die.
19:40
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you.
19:41
Speaker 3: Why, la, Okay, why what'd you do? I feel like
19:45
Speaker 3: you have some tea, some insider trade.
19:47
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to it. So the the most damning
19:49
Speaker 1: piece of evidence was a witness statement from one of
19:53
Speaker 1: Mark Leonard's associates, who investigators said that that weekend before
19:57
Speaker 1: the explosure, Leonard, before the explosion, excuse me, Leonard told
20:00
Speaker 1: him that the house blew up. So he reportedly said
20:05
Speaker 1: that tsunami winds came down, the chimney, blew out, the
20:08
Speaker 1: fire in the fireplace, and the gas kept running and
20:11
Speaker 1: the house blew up. Witness sold the investigators that Leonard
20:16
Speaker 1: talked about buying a Ferrari with the insurance money for
20:19
Speaker 1: the house. Okay, sir, so before the house, before you
20:22
Speaker 1: even did you already run in your mouth.
20:26
Speaker 3: I just want everybody to know any type of thing
20:30
Speaker 3: you're gonna do where everybody might even go to jail,
20:33
Speaker 3: somebody's going to run their mouth. Nobody is going to
20:35
Speaker 3: keep those lips closed because they just can't.
20:38
Speaker 1: We're human beings. Yeah, it's hard to keep it. It's
20:41
Speaker 1: hard to keep a secret. But to me, that's a
20:43
Speaker 1: mark of someone who's not a good scammer, because, like
20:46
Speaker 1: I'm I went on a date with this guy once
20:48
Speaker 1: and he told me that he got fired from his
20:53
Speaker 1: job for insider trading, right like So he was working
20:56
Speaker 1: at a bank and he got like basically a tip
20:58
Speaker 1: that some stock was about I inside, Yeah, for the people.
21:02
Speaker 1: I'm hearing for the people, so they know. And so
21:04
Speaker 1: he got tipped off that a stock was going to
21:06
Speaker 1: do really well, and he bought a bunch of it
21:08
Speaker 1: and he made a lot of money. Then he went
21:11
Speaker 1: around the office bragging about the money that he made,
21:13
Speaker 1: and that's how he got caught. And I was more
21:16
Speaker 1: mad that he was bragging than he did the inside
21:20
Speaker 1: of trading, Like I was like, what the fuck, and
21:22
Speaker 1: you're stupid, Like you got the money, why are you talking?
21:26
Speaker 3: Let me tell you if I win any kind of money.
21:28
Speaker 3: I'm still shopping at Rainbow. Okay, I'm still going to
21:33
Speaker 3: consignment shops. I'm I'm wearing the cheapest shoe like Steve Madden.
21:37
Speaker 1: Itoo, I go down. That's what I do. Love Steve Madden.
21:40
Speaker 1: That's what I do, al do. Let's go, Oh, let's go.
21:44
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like live a regular life so that
21:48
Speaker 3: you don't know that my bank account is popping.
21:50
Speaker 1: Listen, I buy expensive share I love expensive shirt. I
21:54
Speaker 1: see you, but I will say that I'll never buy
21:57
Speaker 1: expensive luggage unless I start flying it because it is
22:01
Speaker 1: insane to me that people have believe biton luggage that
22:03
Speaker 1: says rob me. Your luggage literally says steal me. Like what,
22:07
Speaker 1: I put all my nice shit in the raggediest ass
22:09
Speaker 1: suitcase so that if I leave that shit on the carousel,
22:11
Speaker 1: nobody gonna get no ideas. Yeah, people are dumb, rob
22:18
Speaker 1: run Okay, what's what's the rest of the story. So yeah,
22:24
Speaker 1: he bragged about it to his friends. And also before
22:27
Speaker 1: they did this, they took out a three hundred thousand
22:30
Speaker 1: dollars insurance policy on the home, very very close to
22:34
Speaker 1: the date, so they yeah, it had recently been increased.
22:37
Speaker 1: I don't give me the exact timeframe, but it's obviously
22:39
Speaker 1: within a year if they're saying that it recently got increased.
22:41
Speaker 1: So guys, you should increase your insurance, but not right.
22:45
Speaker 3: Before you blow your house, like you gotta do it,
22:48
Speaker 3: maybe a year before you want to plan this game. Protaly,
22:51
Speaker 3: when you watch documentaries, they be watching when you take
22:56
Speaker 3: out these policies, So like even a year, two years,
22:59
Speaker 3: it's just too close because nobody is just reing up
23:02
Speaker 3: on a policy.
23:03
Speaker 1: You gotta play a long game, Yeah, you gotta play
23:05
Speaker 1: the long game. If you in love, but you know,
23:07
Speaker 1: maybe you want to kill your spouse. Who even does
23:11
Speaker 1: that anymore? That's so dated.
23:12
Speaker 3: Oh you're gonna kill somebody for money, Get a life, right.
23:16
Speaker 1: It is very basic, and I think that's why they
23:18
Speaker 1: got caught because they were like, guys, this is the
23:20
Speaker 1: most basic scam we know about. This. So investigators discovered
23:25
Speaker 1: a number of allegations of insurance fraud and other scams
23:29
Speaker 1: by Mark Leonard prior to the blast, particularly involving stolen
23:34
Speaker 1: or wrecked automobiles. So this nigga was doing the swoop
23:38
Speaker 1: a squat wait, squat Okay. So I learned this from
23:44
Speaker 1: the black man at All State who did them commercials,
23:46
Speaker 1: who was the president on twenty four and I personally
23:48
Speaker 1: think responsible for Barack Obama being president. He was our
23:51
Speaker 1: first black president on TV. Anyway, he talks like this
23:54
Speaker 1: and he's all sick guard. It's called a swoop and squad.
23:59
Speaker 1: So the swoop is squat is where you are in
24:00
Speaker 1: a car, you get in front of somebody and then
24:03
Speaker 1: you hit your brakes real hard so that they slam
24:06
Speaker 1: into the back of you, and then you collect the insers.
24:12
Speaker 1: So my Mark was out here doing swoop a squats.
24:15
Speaker 1: I mean this just that's like kindergarten work. I mean
24:20
Speaker 1: I do appreciate it just because, like he's a career scammer,
24:23
Speaker 1: and to find out that he was a career scammer
24:25
Speaker 1: really energizes me because I think that you can make
24:29
Speaker 1: a living from scams. You just can't get greedy. You're
24:31
Speaker 1: gonna get caught though, you can't get lazy, and this
24:34
Speaker 1: was Mark's laziest scam.
24:35
Speaker 3: You're gonna get caught, and you're when you do finally
24:39
Speaker 3: get caught, nobody's gonna feel sorry for you, and you're
24:42
Speaker 3: gonna be stuck.
24:43
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's worth sorry for Mark. Also, though,
24:46
Speaker 1: I will say, I feel like Mark didn't love Shirley.
24:49
Speaker 1: I think Mark got with Shirley because she had a
24:51
Speaker 1: home and some nice things. I'm sorry.
24:54
Speaker 3: That's what love is. Yeah, a scam, it's a shelter.
24:57
Speaker 3: You need shelter, Okay, and longevity. Well, when you love
25:02
Speaker 3: people who have absolutely bring absolutely nothing to the table,
25:06
Speaker 3: you don't understand what love is.
25:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.
25:11
Speaker 3: I can't love you if we sleeping on the floor. No,
25:14
Speaker 3: I just can't.
25:15
Speaker 1: No, I hate you. I don't have good back support.
25:17
Speaker 1: I used to date beautiful poor boys, like boys who.
25:20
Speaker 3: Are so never heard of that so never heard of
25:23
Speaker 3: attractive man that's also poor.
25:26
Speaker 1: Oh no, now if like, if you have no money
25:28
Speaker 1: in my vagina's eric no, no, no, but I've never met one.
25:32
Speaker 3: I've never met somebody who's attractive that's a man and poor.
25:36
Speaker 1: If you're a good looking man, you gonna get some money.
25:41
Speaker 3: I know.
25:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Men are are scamming too. I meet
25:44
Speaker 1: men who literally like try to scam me.
25:48
Speaker 3: You live in LA That's why there's a lot of
25:51
Speaker 3: homelessness going on.
25:52
Speaker 1: When was in New York, literally we was talking and
25:54
Speaker 1: he was like, damn, I really need this new camera,
25:56
Speaker 1: Like could you get it for me? And I was like,
25:58
Speaker 1: are you out here fucking mind? So did he never
26:00
Speaker 1: buy you anything? A Brooklyn boy? Nobody buys cameras.
26:04
Speaker 3: You have an iPhone X, like it's a twelve hundred
26:07
Speaker 3: dollars phone portray mo, bitch, Like you better know how
26:11
Speaker 3: to use a portrait mode. If that's if that's the
26:15
Speaker 3: last case scenario.
26:16
Speaker 1: Men want me to be their sugar mama. It happens often.
26:18
Speaker 1: Well you on TV now, so I want you to
26:21
Speaker 1: be my sugar mama.
26:23
Speaker 3: I'm looking at your bag and I'm like, sis, get
26:25
Speaker 3: me a cab to the airport.
26:29
Speaker 1: So it's already playing her next game. Yeah, I really
26:32
Speaker 1: am so Mark Leonard wasn't just do a swoop a squats.
26:37
Speaker 1: Mark Lenard also had several complaints from several women claiming
26:41
Speaker 1: that Leonard scammed them out of thousands of dollars. Many
26:44
Speaker 1: of the women reported that they met him on dating
26:46
Speaker 1: sites and that he soon began asking them for money.
26:49
Speaker 1: One woman previously won like a seventy thousand dollars judgment
26:53
Speaker 1: against Leonard in a civil suit after lending him fifty
26:56
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars, which he never repaid. Another woman reported
27:00
Speaker 1: that she had loaned him about five thousand dollars for
27:02
Speaker 1: a construction job. So this all makes me feel that
27:05
Speaker 1: Leonard must be slinging that pipe. Oh the dick is great,
27:08
Speaker 1: So dick is fantastic.
27:09
Speaker 3: Okay, chef's kiss on that dick, because deliciosa.
27:13
Speaker 1: What kind of dick is making you give somebody fifty
27:16
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars?
27:18
Speaker 3: The most I've ever given was like an iPod nano,
27:23
Speaker 3: and that was like, we don't even have nanos.
27:26
Speaker 1: Anymore. So I gave my ex boyfriend, who I'm pretty
27:29
Speaker 1: sure I had a sugar daddy, I gave him a
27:30
Speaker 1: bull of a watch and it was like four hundred bucks. Idiot.
27:33
Speaker 1: I was young, I was dumb, I was nineteen foolish.
27:37
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't even know if I could
27:38
Speaker 1: talk to you anymore on this podcast, because so don't leave.
27:42
Speaker 1: Why would you do such a thing like that? Listen
27:44
Speaker 1: love the biggest scam. But yeah, so he obviously was
27:47
Speaker 1: slug in that pipe and he fifty thousand dollars. Now
27:53
Speaker 1: I want to know her story, Like, right, does she work? Also,
27:56
Speaker 1: she got a lot of money. If you got fifty
27:58
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars to loan to anybody, you got too
28:01
Speaker 1: much money.
28:01
Speaker 3: Was it in increments or she just went to the
28:03
Speaker 3: bank and like made in rain?
28:06
Speaker 1: Was it an installment? Like what's up? Did she PayPal him? Truly?
28:10
Speaker 1: I don't know? And like he was like he he
28:13
Speaker 1: gave some people excuses like another woman reported that she
28:16
Speaker 1: gave him five thousand for a construction job, which he
28:19
Speaker 1: said he was going to pay back. Construction where unheard of?
28:21
Speaker 3: He must be buff construction wherever they live is two dollars.
28:26
Speaker 3: There's no way they live in Indianapolis.
28:28
Speaker 1: They don't. You don't need five thousand dollars to do construction.
28:30
Speaker 1: You're right about that. I mean, so he's been scamming,
28:34
Speaker 1: and I think that's why I think that he wasn't
28:36
Speaker 1: with Shirley for real, for real. I think he saw
28:38
Speaker 1: an opportunity in burning down her house because he scammed
28:41
Speaker 1: women before, Like love is his probably biggest income. So
28:45
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I see Mark Leonard. That's why
28:47
Speaker 1: I'm never going to be single again. Man. So mons
28:50
Speaker 1: are at Shirley, Mark Leonard, and Bob Leonard. So Mark
28:54
Speaker 1: brought his brother in on the job. Hey, keep it
28:56
Speaker 1: in a family, yo, keep it in a family. He
28:59
Speaker 1: was smart about that. Yeah, I think, like, if you
29:01
Speaker 1: won't scam, you really should have scam with your blood relatives,
29:03
Speaker 1: like they're probably the most trustworthy people.
29:06
Speaker 3: No, okay, family, family, be the first one and just
29:10
Speaker 3: throw you under the bus depot.
29:12
Speaker 1: Well, Bob Leonard did throw him under the bus exactly.
29:15
Speaker 1: I know this work. He talked to the police like
29:19
Speaker 1: he was in an OPRAH interview. He gave him everything.
29:21
Speaker 3: Don't let me be an interrogation room. I'm giving up
29:24
Speaker 3: my whole family. Damn for a Snickers bar.
29:28
Speaker 1: That's it. When the sugar is low, I go crazy.
29:31
Speaker 1: I say, weird, you're talking about other crimes. We don't
29:34
Speaker 1: even need that information. Like no, no, no, let me tell
29:36
Speaker 1: you another thing. My cousin be running ump uh huh.
29:39
Speaker 1: You want his number?
29:40
Speaker 3: Five?
29:40
Speaker 1: Five fast? Yes, that's exactly that's not what we're here
29:43
Speaker 1: talking about. I'll give you everyone. So they were all
29:47
Speaker 1: charged with two counts of murder and arson in the
29:51
Speaker 1: deaths of Dion and Jennifer Longworth. So, though the trio
29:54
Speaker 1: was eligible for the death penalty under in Indiana law,
29:57
Speaker 1: prosecutors chose to pursue life sentences, with Operol Shirley and
30:02
Speaker 1: the Leonard brothers stating that they believe the jury would
30:04
Speaker 1: be unlikely to impose the death penalty as there was
30:07
Speaker 1: no evidence that the suspects intended to kill anybody. So
30:10
Speaker 1: basically they were like, we're not gonna hit you with
30:12
Speaker 1: the death penalty because y'all ain't know that people was
30:15
Speaker 1: home during the explosion, Like, clearly they didn't want to
30:17
Speaker 1: kill anybody they want to.
30:18
Speaker 3: I'm sorry if you blow up a fucking home on
30:22
Speaker 3: a block and you don't notify everybody on that block
30:26
Speaker 3: you are going to commit some type of murder.
30:30
Speaker 1: That shit is rude, Like they couldn't at least been like, hey, y'all,
30:33
Speaker 1: don't be home from the hours. Yeah, they're already so sloppy,
30:37
Speaker 1: like I would have called up.
30:38
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, the mob has been after me for
30:41
Speaker 3: like weeks. So if I was you, I would I
30:44
Speaker 3: would go to the vacation home you got in Savannah
30:46
Speaker 3: or something.
30:47
Speaker 1: In peace to the Hollywood Casino in Indianapolis. The Hollywood
30:51
Speaker 1: Casino in Indianapolis sounds like a place where you go
30:53
Speaker 1: and you lose the small amount of money that you
30:56
Speaker 1: had and they have one gift store and you have
30:58
Speaker 1: to buy an outfit and then start hooking and the
31:01
Speaker 1: casino to get home. It sounds like the saddest place
31:05
Speaker 1: in the world. I love it. I feel like that's
31:08
Speaker 1: the way I need to have my funeral at. That's
31:11
Speaker 1: my brand. The place is to find your funeral ass. Yeah,
31:17
Speaker 1: that's it. Well this was tragic, so yeah, they didn't
31:21
Speaker 1: pursue the jut penalty. A fourth person, Gary Thompson, was
31:26
Speaker 1: charged in January twenty fifteen with the same charges. Gary
31:30
Speaker 1: Thompson Black Gary to sound black. Gary almost got away.
31:37
Speaker 1: I was like, Gary going to team is Gary? Anything
31:44
Speaker 1: with Gary? And then the last name starts with the
31:46
Speaker 1: T black, very black. That's why he got charged. Poor guy.
31:50
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Gary. It ain't right for you
31:53
Speaker 1: find out he's Asian. So in April twenty fifteen, a
31:57
Speaker 1: fifth man, Glenn Holtz, was charged with conspiracy to commit arson.
32:02
Speaker 1: So I think those are the two guys who were
32:03
Speaker 1: in the van. Yeah. Holts and his then fiance babysat
32:06
Speaker 1: Shirley's daughter on the night of the explosion. Shirley alleged
32:09
Speaker 1: that Holts initially came up with the idea, Okay, so Shirley,
32:13
Speaker 1: you are dropping down on everybody like they baby sat
32:15
Speaker 1: your daughter, Like, so too, everybody could get to smoke.
32:23
Speaker 1: Shirley was like, I was also at the bank earlier,
32:25
Speaker 1: and the teller told me it was a good idea
32:27
Speaker 1: to get that bitch too, go to First Trust National Bank. Yeah.
32:31
Speaker 1: And as for Ashley, because gotta go to jail. I'm sorry.
32:34
Speaker 3: If anybody has not watched First forty eight, that is
32:38
Speaker 3: the number one show if you want to see people
32:41
Speaker 3: give up and.
32:42
Speaker 1: Just rat on every everybody. They don't hold back, Like damn,
32:47
Speaker 1: they baby sent your child, You're gonna do that. So
32:50
Speaker 1: so prostitutors contend that they filled the house with natural
32:53
Speaker 1: gas like they talked to their neighbor about, and then
32:56
Speaker 1: use a spark from a microwave, which could be set
32:59
Speaker 1: in advance to detonated. The alleged motive for the arson
33:02
Speaker 1: was to collect the insurance money to ease financial strain.
33:04
Speaker 1: Sureley was set to receive over three hundred thousand dollars
33:07
Speaker 1: and insurance money for the replacement of the home. That's
33:09
Speaker 1: not even a lot of money, I mean, not enough
33:12
Speaker 1: to change your life. You enough money, Sureley, You was
33:15
Speaker 1: about to be having to blow your house up like
33:17
Speaker 1: every two years. Thousand dollars baby, like one they're like,
33:22
Speaker 1: should we blew a house up again? Yeah? Wow, something
33:25
Speaker 1: about that house it is just really going off. Shit
33:27
Speaker 1: is flammable. So yeah, only three hundred thousand dollars, which
33:32
Speaker 1: I also said was not enough. Investigators found out that
33:34
Speaker 1: the couple had its substantial debt, including sixty three thousand
33:38
Speaker 1: dollars in credit card debt. How do you have sixty
33:40
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars? This is a white problem. I never
33:44
Speaker 1: had a limit that was sixty three thousand dollars. How
33:47
Speaker 1: many credit cards do you have to get to have
33:49
Speaker 1: sixty three thousand dollars? Credit card could be school debt?
33:52
Speaker 1: Debt is that's a credit card debt, It says credit
33:56
Speaker 1: card debt. This is not school debt. That means a
33:59
Speaker 1: credit card company. Let them spend sixty three thousand.
34:01
Speaker 3: They're still dumb because three hundred thousand minus sixty three thousand, like,
34:07
Speaker 3: you're still.
34:07
Speaker 1: Not enough money right at all? Thirty seven thousand dollars.
34:11
Speaker 3: When they're finished with everything, they're going about to have
34:13
Speaker 3: a hundred thous which you can finish that.
34:16
Speaker 1: You could blow that in six months. A friend of
34:17
Speaker 1: the couple reported that Mark lost ten thousand dollars at
34:22
Speaker 1: that Hollywood casino approximately three weeks before they explode.
34:26
Speaker 3: That was God letting them know, see you don't you
34:28
Speaker 3: can't even hold ten gees.
34:31
Speaker 1: Roh, you lost ten g's at the casino. He was like,
34:33
Speaker 1: damn on God.
34:35
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, I just shouldn't have money. I
34:38
Speaker 3: guess we gotta blow the house up.
34:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, but first let me tell my friends that I'm
34:42
Speaker 1: onling the house. Dumb.
34:45
Speaker 3: I talk too much That's why I can't commit any
34:47
Speaker 3: kind of crimes.
34:47
Speaker 1: I let people know before. Oh no, I'll keep it
34:49
Speaker 1: a secret.
34:50
Speaker 3: No, I'll drink one Arnold Palmer and I'll be at
34:53
Speaker 3: the bar like, Oh, I tell you what I'm about
34:55
Speaker 3: to do this weekend.
34:57
Speaker 1: I'm about prow my house up.
34:58
Speaker 3: I'm about to get this money.
35:01
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, what y'all drinking pelgrinno? I got it. Also,
35:05
Speaker 1: Mark talked too fucking much, like he obviously told somebody
35:08
Speaker 1: he lost ten thousand dollars, which is a flex. If
35:10
Speaker 1: you tell somebody who lost ten thousand dollars in the casino,
35:12
Speaker 1: it's a flex to just have ten thousand dollars to loose.
35:14
Speaker 3: I would say I was robbed. I would never say
35:17
Speaker 3: that I lost. I would say they. I would just
35:21
Speaker 3: smole at the whole situation because I'm not telling nobody
35:26
Speaker 3: that I lost ten thousand dollars. That's embarrassing.
35:29
Speaker 1: Look, you gotta drip drop drip drippity drive. Oh they
35:31
Speaker 1: help me at gunpoint. They pistol whipped me, they put
35:35
Speaker 1: up bruises.
35:35
Speaker 3: They put a ball in my anus, like I'm going
35:38
Speaker 3: all out.
35:39
Speaker 1: I think it's a flex. I think it's a flex
35:41
Speaker 1: to be like, Oh, I lost some ten g's in
35:43
Speaker 1: the casino, you know how I do. Anyway, I'm tired
35:46
Speaker 1: of Mark. He gotta know. Is he in jail?
35:48
Speaker 3: Now?
35:48
Speaker 1: Let you get another apparol spreads? Oh you know Marcus
35:50
Speaker 1: under the jail. A second mortgage was taken out on
35:53
Speaker 1: the home for sixty five thousand dollars in addition to
35:56
Speaker 1: the original home loan of one hundred and sixteen thousand dollars.
35:58
Speaker 1: So I didn't already mortgage the home. They put out
36:01
Speaker 1: a second mortgage on this bitch insurance like anybody watching
36:09
Speaker 1: your ship. Your shit has got red flags? Ding ding
36:11
Speaker 1: ding ding ding, Like you increase your insurance and then
36:14
Speaker 1: you also took out a second mortgage on your home.
36:17
Speaker 3: Like I would be mad if I was them listening
36:20
Speaker 3: to you tell these stories.
36:21
Speaker 1: Oh damn, were we really that stupid? Y'all were very
36:25
Speaker 1: dumb for real. So prosecutors initially sought to try the
36:29
Speaker 1: couple together, but defendants were granted the right to have
36:31
Speaker 1: separate trials. I think this is Shirley's doing.
36:34
Speaker 3: She was like, don't try me with that nigga, like
36:36
Speaker 3: he is a I was accompliced. Default prosecutors then proposed
36:42
Speaker 3: an unusual strategy involving one trial but three separate juries,
36:46
Speaker 3: one for each defendant. This type of trial is unusual
36:49
Speaker 3: but not unheard of.
36:50
Speaker 1: So basically the last time that they did this kind
36:53
Speaker 1: of trial in this state was for the Menindes bro. Yeah,
36:58
Speaker 1: these niggas talk about legendary that you get a Menindas
37:04
Speaker 1: trit I mean, they're really trying to make sure yours
37:06
Speaker 1: go to jail. That ain't even fair.
37:07
Speaker 3: That's right behind the old j Simpson murder, the Menandez brothers.
37:11
Speaker 1: Yes, they killed their parents. Oh, they very much killed
37:14
Speaker 1: their parents. Wow. So the defendants requested that the trials
37:17
Speaker 1: be moved over concerns that they would not receive a
37:20
Speaker 1: fair trial in Central Indiana due to the high profile
37:23
Speaker 1: media coverage by the case, and they actually got granted that.
37:27
Speaker 1: So they got to be tried like in some random
37:29
Speaker 1: ass place where I guess people don't know Shirley and
37:31
Speaker 1: they don't know Mark Leonard. Yeah, Shirley pled guilty to
37:36
Speaker 1: two counts of conspiracy to commit arson, and she testified
37:40
Speaker 1: against all the other suspects. Shirley came out here and
37:43
Speaker 1: dropped dime on everybody. You have to.
37:45
Speaker 3: That's the only way that you can have immunity and
37:49
Speaker 3: get the fuck out in a decent timeframe.
37:52
Speaker 1: And I'm here for that. She admitted to raising the
37:55
Speaker 1: limit on her insurance coverage because Mark urged her too
37:58
Speaker 1: and only went along with the plot of love for him.
38:01
Speaker 1: I was a man, this is a man. I was digmatized,
38:07
Speaker 1: Court stenographer. Can you put digmatize on the record, No,
38:09
Speaker 1: she said, the patriarchy digmatized, which is a real medical condition.
38:15
Speaker 1: I have a psychiatrist here to testify about dictamentation dictimization. Yes,
38:21
Speaker 1: can we get my psychiatrist to the stand. He literally
38:25
Speaker 1: fucked my brains out, Guys, I had no brains, and
38:29
Speaker 1: that's why I feel like that's valid. He fought me
38:33
Speaker 1: so good. I took him to Red Lobster and also
38:38
Speaker 1: I flew up my house. Yeah, but I would love
38:41
Speaker 1: to do it. I know surely got some friends. They'd
38:43
Speaker 1: be like I was there.
38:44
Speaker 3: That bitch is dumb. She would do that stunt before
38:47
Speaker 3: she even got the dick that. I would just want
38:50
Speaker 3: where are her friends at?
38:51
Speaker 1: Who know her? Well? She got no good friends? Because
38:53
Speaker 1: I feel like I would talk to my friends. I'll
38:55
Speaker 1: be adverse We're like, yeah, I just started seeing this man.
38:57
Speaker 1: His name Mark Lennard, two first names. And I'm actually
39:00
Speaker 1: going to show you a picture of Shirley. Ooh, yes, finally,
39:03
Speaker 1: So this is my girl, Shirley. Oh that haircut hello?
39:07
Speaker 1: Maybe whoa?
39:10
Speaker 3: She looked like, ah, she would definitely give up her
39:12
Speaker 3: whole family.
39:13
Speaker 1: That haircut just asked sandwich. That haircut just asked me
39:17
Speaker 1: to see the manager. This haircut says, I have biracial children. Yeah,
39:22
Speaker 1: And who are those men next to her? So this
39:24
Speaker 1: is this is Mark Leonard, the one in the middle
39:27
Speaker 1: right here, that's Mark Leonard. He not even that fine.
39:31
Speaker 1: He looked like possibly method has been in the family.
39:34
Speaker 1: I think he's in Indianapolis seven though I think maybe
39:38
Speaker 1: you know. And also, you know, when you get older
39:41
Speaker 1: and you look like Charley any man looking your way,
39:45
Speaker 1: you like.
39:45
Speaker 3: She started to get desperate, you know what I mean?
39:48
Speaker 3: But she where she's originally fucked up is that haircut.
39:51
Speaker 3: That's what That's what got her in the problems that
39:54
Speaker 3: she is in right now.
39:56
Speaker 1: That haircut actually is the reason that her life old. Yeah,
39:59
Speaker 1: literally should have dropped dim on her styles. And also
40:04
Speaker 1: y'all need to go get Talia Johnson, Talia super cuts.
40:10
Speaker 1: Get that bitch and put her in jail. To Talia
40:13
Speaker 1: is such a hairdresser.
40:14
Speaker 3: Name because she gave me his haircut, like a tacky
40:18
Speaker 3: hairdresser who like uses Vadal Sassoon.
40:21
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you know she used Vdal Sessoon. So. Mark
40:26
Speaker 1: Leonard's trial began in June of twenty fifteen. His defense
40:30
Speaker 1: team admitted that the blaze was intentionally set, but told
40:33
Speaker 1: jurors it was only intended to be a small fire
40:36
Speaker 1: and that murder was never his intention. The defense became
40:39
Speaker 1: that Richmond Hill explosion was supposed to be stupid and
40:43
Speaker 1: selfish insurance fraud that went horribly wrong, adding precautions were
40:47
Speaker 1: taken to ensure people weren't harmed, which I believe. They
40:50
Speaker 1: obviously babies at their daughter, and they even put their
40:53
Speaker 1: cat away, which I that is.
40:57
Speaker 3: This is why I'm not saying I hate people like this,
41:02
Speaker 3: but I hate people like this.
41:04
Speaker 1: You care more about animals than human beings. They had
41:09
Speaker 1: three thousand pieces of evidence. Prosecutors had three thousand pieces
41:13
Speaker 1: of evidence, and they had potential to call up one
41:17
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five witnesses. How you in total one
41:23
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five people, You're gonna blow up your
41:25
Speaker 1: house one hundred and seventy.
41:28
Speaker 3: Five Chiryl's at payless, Like, girl, I'm gonna be able
41:32
Speaker 3: to buy this this whole place. Watch, I got something
41:36
Speaker 3: in the works. Girl, get you a pair of shoes?
41:39
Speaker 3: I got you put it on my tabre.
41:42
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you need this in a six and a half? Yeah? Yeah,
41:44
Speaker 1: can I get them in the six and a half?
41:45
Speaker 1: And also, I'm blowing up my house. Yeah, welcome to
41:49
Speaker 1: Chuck fil A. How may I help you? Hi? Can
41:51
Speaker 1: I get a three piece neck get meal with extra sauce?
41:53
Speaker 1: I know y'all charging now, but it's cool because I'm
41:56
Speaker 1: gonna blowp my house. I know y'all try now. Weren't
42:00
Speaker 1: they always charging the charge for extra sauce? Now?
42:05
Speaker 3: Yes?
42:05
Speaker 1: But obviously I don't shop there. It's a delicious bad place.
42:12
Speaker 1: But literally was out here telling everybody she was about
42:14
Speaker 1: to blow her house up. They're like, man, we need
42:16
Speaker 1: to violate your car. You're like, yeah, here are my keys.
42:18
Speaker 1: I'm about to blow my house up. Like, how do
42:21
Speaker 1: one hundred certain fy people know you was about to
42:22
Speaker 1: blow up your house? No? What happened? What happened is.
42:28
Speaker 3: What happened is is that she told three people and
42:32
Speaker 3: then that's how the whole town found that was Indianapolis.
42:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Like that's a good story. If somebody
42:37
Speaker 1: told me there was one at the house and I
42:39
Speaker 1: was in Indianapolis, I would definitely be sharing that with everyone.
42:42
Speaker 1: So Bob Lennard was convicted on fifty one counts, including
42:46
Speaker 1: murder and consumer conspiracy to commit otherson. I can't talk.
42:50
Speaker 1: He was sentenced to two life sentences without parole, as
42:54
Speaker 1: well as seventy years from other charges. So they was like,
42:57
Speaker 1: don't pass go, don't collect one, and never leave in jail,
43:03
Speaker 1: right monster? She So Shirley played guilty to conspiracy to
43:06
Speaker 1: commit arson. Her attorneys argued that she was trapped in
43:09
Speaker 1: an abusive relationship and was coerced by Mark Leonard to
43:12
Speaker 1: participate in the crime. So now she says it's abusive.
43:15
Speaker 1: So before she was playing victim, now was also abusing.
43:19
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna question it. I can't question that.
43:22
Speaker 3: I love putting on that victim Cardigan, you know, I
43:24
Speaker 3: mean real fresh Fresh and Taylor victim Cardigan, like Real
43:29
Speaker 3: Fall of two thousand and twenty.
43:31
Speaker 1: I mean that into it. I love this song. It's
43:34
Speaker 1: my favorite song. Gary Thompson our black man who's just
43:38
Speaker 1: roped into this. He's actually white. But Gary Thompson played
43:42
Speaker 1: guilty to conspiracy to commit arson and was sentenced to
43:45
Speaker 1: thirty years in prison. All he did was babysit her daughter.
43:48
Speaker 1: He got thirty fucking years. It happens. You hate to
43:52
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, but Mark is the most petty because
43:56
Speaker 1: he died Tuesday, January thirtieth, twenty eighteen, so he only
44:02
Speaker 1: served three years. Woadur y'all thought I was going to jail, bitch,
44:08
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die. The gag. The gag is I'm out. Literally,
44:13
Speaker 1: I'm out of this. I'm out. I'm leaving the world. Bitch.
44:15
Speaker 1: You thought I was gonna do these seventy years like
44:17
Speaker 1: a real scammer. He died. He said, boy, you sit
44:21
Speaker 1: his hairline.
44:22
Speaker 3: I'm not doing I am not going bald in this, bitch.
44:25
Speaker 3: I'm out, Damn, I said a king, you know.
44:32
Speaker 1: And also the reason I said that Shirley should have
44:37
Speaker 1: popul Art her daughter blow up in the house was
44:39
Speaker 1: Shirley's daughter. You're so problematic. But yeah, I know, but
44:44
Speaker 1: her daughter testified against them and no, no, no, testify
44:49
Speaker 1: an music testify. She testified against her mama, which what
44:58
Speaker 1: I would never testify against moment.
45:01
Speaker 3: I would, but out of that, I wouldn't even hold
45:03
Speaker 3: back for a two pieces and a biscuit baby.
45:07
Speaker 1: For too little. Yeah, that's how I'm telling you. I
45:10
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. That's how little I have invested.
45:16
Speaker 1: Shout out to Mark because he was a career scammer.
45:20
Speaker 1: Is that the end of the story, and he died
45:21
Speaker 1: as he lived. Yes, they went to jail. Sureley did
45:24
Speaker 1: have to go to jail. Look at her going to jail.
45:26
Speaker 1: They got they got photos of her going to jail,
45:28
Speaker 1: so she might as well die too. Swipe over it
45:31
Speaker 1: and see how she's like so distrayed. Oh she got
45:33
Speaker 1: black hair. Now, yeah, she didn't let them get to her. Well,
45:36
Speaker 1: you can't tell you can't do your highlights when you
45:39
Speaker 1: in jail. True, true, true, I'm fucked up. That's my bad.
45:42
Speaker 1: I clearly don't know how to jail works. I don't know.
45:45
Speaker 3: People be having FaceTime and whatnot now and they have
45:48
Speaker 3: Wi Fi and they can post on Facebook.
45:50
Speaker 1: So I'm just from the city. Girls went to jail.
45:53
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you can have so much in jail.
45:55
Speaker 1: Jt be posting on her Instagram from jail. No, I
46:00
Speaker 1: love it. I'm so tired. Real hot girl shit. I no,
46:04
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. If I go to jail, my Instagram will
46:07
Speaker 1: still be popping for show p show. No thank you,
46:10
Speaker 1: but yeah. So shout out to Mark Leonard a king.
46:13
Speaker 1: He died as he lived. I'm proud of Mark.
46:17
Speaker 3: I would have done the same thing. How Daary, So
46:20
Speaker 3: I'm not. So you're saying I'm not getting my money
46:22
Speaker 3: and I'm going to jail.
46:23
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm dying. I'm a notebook myself. I'm gonna
46:27
Speaker 1: will myself to die. I'm not getting this money and
46:30
Speaker 1: I got it. Oh wow, not suicide. I'm just gonna
46:33
Speaker 1: mentally will myself to die. They said he died of
46:35
Speaker 1: natural causes.
46:36
Speaker 3: Oh bitch, you know that was a scam itself. You
46:39
Speaker 3: know he was able to say there's no way he
46:42
Speaker 3: died naturally in jail.
46:45
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never heard of that. How old
46:47
Speaker 1: was he? Forty eight?
46:49
Speaker 3: Nobody is dying naturally in jail at forty eight.
46:53
Speaker 1: It's just not happening. Maybe I don't know. I think
46:56
Speaker 1: he willed himself to die. I think he went to
46:58
Speaker 1: sleep and was like, this is it. I'm not waking, honey.
47:01
Speaker 3: I've tried that before and I woke up and I
47:03
Speaker 3: was like, fuck, I'm still here. So there's that doesn't
47:06
Speaker 3: work unless you got some like spooky white Man powers
47:09
Speaker 3: where you could just you know, do such a thing.
47:14
Speaker 1: It's not real. Look, he had the kind of dick
47:16
Speaker 1: that makes you give away fifty three thousand dollars, so
47:19
Speaker 1: you know what illuminati ni he called on the powers
47:23
Speaker 1: of his dick.
47:26
Speaker 3: So he just rubbed his dick three times and was like,
47:28
Speaker 3: I wish I was dead.
47:29
Speaker 1: I wish it was dead, that she was dead. I mean,
47:31
Speaker 1: that's not happened. It is time for Scammer of the Week.
47:36
Speaker 1: Scammer of the Week is where we just highlight an
47:38
Speaker 1: exceptional charlatan and just give them a little bit of
47:40
Speaker 1: praise at the end of the episode. This week it
47:44
Speaker 1: is Shanikua Jordan, who was charged with larceny and attempted larceny.
47:51
Speaker 1: She's a fashion blogger who is known on Instagram as
47:54
Speaker 1: Simplicity x Style Wait. She's known for posing in high
47:59
Speaker 1: fashion brand why I Sell Lup Attention Now and going
48:02
Speaker 1: to some pretty serious legal troubles because she was scamming
48:06
Speaker 1: a Connecticut woman. She apparently stole fifty thousand dollars from
48:09
Speaker 1: a Connecticut woman. Wait, let me see a picture of her.
48:11
Speaker 1: Let me find a picture of her. So she posted
48:13
Speaker 1: five days ago, and she's got the new Chanel bag.
48:16
Speaker 1: She's super cute. So how much is she still she
48:19
Speaker 1: sold fifty thousand dollars from a Connecticut woman, but I'm
48:21
Speaker 1: sure that wasn't the first time she's stall fifty dollars right, also,
48:26
Speaker 1: do it for the gram like she's doing it for
48:29
Speaker 1: a cause. I don't want her to get caught. I
48:31
Speaker 1: was sad that she got caught. She looks great. I'm
48:33
Speaker 1: about to follow her. I want to see her journey.
48:36
Speaker 1: I'm about to get fashion tips from her. Yes worth
48:40
Speaker 1: these looks. Honestly, she's doing a community service and I
48:43
Speaker 1: don't think that she could have got like should have
48:45
Speaker 1: got pinched. And I feel bad for her. She's beautiful,
48:47
Speaker 1: she looks great. I'm into it here let me But
48:51
Speaker 1: also I feel Sidy's really following her Instagram. I also
48:56
Speaker 1: feel like probably most Instagram fashion bloggers are running some
48:59
Speaker 1: kind the scam, because how are you keeping up with
49:01
Speaker 1: these looks.
49:02
Speaker 3: Yo, I'd be so mad because I'm just like, one,
49:06
Speaker 3: not only are you looking good, but.
49:08
Speaker 1: Then you're traveling. It's not fair. I have what is
49:13
Speaker 1: your I not. I don't need to know what your
49:14
Speaker 1: income is, like I don't need to know hard though.
49:18
Speaker 1: Scam hard work, oh god, also a very hard world job.
49:23
Speaker 1: They're depleting, they're exhausting. And also you have to stay
49:25
Speaker 1: ahead of the game. Like when you scam, you gotta
49:27
Speaker 1: be thinking about your next scam, you know what I mean.
49:29
Speaker 1: You can't be just in the moment with scams. That's
49:31
Speaker 1: not how they work. That's why Mark Leonard got picked up.
49:36
Speaker 3: He's like so he was trying to do this set
49:38
Speaker 3: it off, like oh, we're just gonna rob this last
49:40
Speaker 3: bank and then that's it. And it's like, actually everybody
49:43
Speaker 3: died except you.
49:44
Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, well Mark, Mark typed two Mark when not
49:48
Speaker 1: like win the deepense set it off just riddled with
49:50
Speaker 1: b and I.
49:52
Speaker 3: Love that you go out like a g you know,
49:55
Speaker 3: don't let them see you with your head down.
49:57
Speaker 1: Nah, nah my money mon Mark was about to do
50:00
Speaker 1: jail time. He wasn't doing that bit.
50:02
Speaker 3: I'm still upset about yesterday. I can't believe. Like I'm
50:05
Speaker 3: so frazzled. I don't even know why. It's like I
50:10
Speaker 3: knew nothing was gonna happen, but I tricked myself into
50:13
Speaker 3: believe and I was like, oh, she totally is into me.
50:17
Speaker 1: Well, that's the biggest part of scams is like scam
50:19
Speaker 1: artists know that you can't just scam anybody. You have
50:22
Speaker 1: to scam someone who's kind of willing to be scammed
50:25
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's that home. We call it the
50:27
Speaker 1: desbo meter, Like how desperate are you? Look at that
50:31
Speaker 1: gym you just dropped? You know what I mean? Like,
50:33
Speaker 1: are you gonna suck dick for water? How desperate are you?
50:35
Speaker 1: You know?
50:35
Speaker 3: Well, sorry, sis, I was on a set, not sucking
50:39
Speaker 3: dick for water. I'm better than that. How dare you
50:43
Speaker 3: try to drag me on your podcast with your listeners
50:46
Speaker 3: who don't know me from Adam? That is disrespectful and
50:51
Speaker 3: you should lose your friend card on that. I don't
50:54
Speaker 3: know if I'll be speaking to you. Have just drops
50:56
Speaker 3: straight up and down.
50:57
Speaker 1: That was a firefest.
50:58
Speaker 3: Reference said, No, Andy King canceled, He's canceled it.
51:04
Speaker 1: Like after what a month? I was like, who Andy?
51:07
Speaker 1: Who I want Andy King to have a career. You know,
51:10
Speaker 1: I already was gonna have a show. Yeah, he needed
51:13
Speaker 1: to hop on it faster.
51:14
Speaker 3: He is a real scam artist because all of a sudden,
51:17
Speaker 3: you're talking about sucking dick for some festival that you
51:20
Speaker 3: knew was shit from jump. I love it he knew
51:23
Speaker 3: if he was like if I say this in this documentary,
51:26
Speaker 3: my shit's gonna.
51:26
Speaker 1: Pomp and yeah, and then he's an opportunist and I
51:29
Speaker 1: love it. That's what you have to be as a
51:31
Speaker 1: scammer too. Like it's also scamming is about opportunity, like
51:33
Speaker 1: if a door is unlocked, if a safe is cracked,
51:37
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you have to be
51:38
Speaker 1: ready to hop on those moments.
51:40
Speaker 3: I looked at the picture of that commissioner and ain
51:42
Speaker 3: no way he was going to be getting his dick sucked.
51:45
Speaker 1: Ever, Billy McFarland was on Molly constantly, and I think
51:50
Speaker 1: that he literally probably called Andy and was like, Yo,
51:51
Speaker 1: we needed to get this water, like do whatever you
51:53
Speaker 1: gotta do, suck dick for it, and like probably was joking,
51:56
Speaker 1: and Andy like took that moment and was like, but
51:58
Speaker 1: I put some breath freshener in my up.
52:01
Speaker 3: And then he went there and I was like, I
52:02
Speaker 3: was looking at the guy that he was supposed to
52:04
Speaker 3: suck his dick, and I was just like.
52:07
Speaker 1: No, he's not allowing that.
52:10
Speaker 3: Like he was like he and even he said in
52:13
Speaker 3: the documentary He's like, uh, yeah, you ain't gotta do that.
52:18
Speaker 1: Just make sure we get our money. No, no, no, I'm
52:20
Speaker 1: a suck with dick. It was like he volunteered, just
52:22
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, any no, we don't need.
52:24
Speaker 3: To tell the truth. You was running, you were willing to,
52:27
Speaker 3: and you are ready. You wanted to.
52:29
Speaker 1: Put my lip bloss on. Somebody dig getting stuck. I
52:33
Speaker 1: pullister into my mouth. Somebody did get in stock. He
52:36
Speaker 1: probably was like does anybody know where John Role is?
52:40
Speaker 1: He was looking for John Roll the whole time during
52:42
Speaker 1: five of US. And I was like, so I heard
52:43
Speaker 1: I had to suck a dick? What am I doing
52:47
Speaker 1: with myer?
52:50
Speaker 3: Yo?
52:51
Speaker 1: John Roll is the biggest scamra of all. He really
52:53
Speaker 1: got away from this unscathed. In fact, he got publicity.
52:56
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know jo Roll had enough
52:58
Speaker 1: money to scam anyone.
52:59
Speaker 3: No, he people still weren't on his side. So he
53:02
Speaker 3: got publicity and still is in the hole. Maybe so
53:06
Speaker 3: he's not a good scammer, that's true. You have to
53:08
Speaker 3: be likable and he's not.
53:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care if.
53:12
Speaker 3: You are on this boat with your shirt off. I
53:14
Speaker 3: don't care how many aps you have. We still remember,
53:18
Speaker 3: we remember what fifty cent did to you and you're done.
53:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know why he didn't get away with that
53:23
Speaker 1: shit because you have to go to jail after you
53:25
Speaker 1: lose a rap beef so that you can get your
53:27
Speaker 1: cred back. Because Meek Mill went to jail after Drake
53:30
Speaker 1: beat him in the rap beef. And now we like
53:32
Speaker 1: all respect Meek Mill again, do we Yeah? No, After
53:36
Speaker 1: he went to jail, he became an activist and we
53:37
Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, Meek Mill, like we love you.
53:40
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just so worked out that he's an act
53:43
Speaker 3: unquote coote active.
53:44
Speaker 1: You gotta go to jail though. You can't just lose
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Speaker 1: a rap beef and then just like try to exist
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Speaker 1: he as a rapper anymore. That's what fucked up with
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Speaker 1: John Rohld. That's why he never got back on top.
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Speaker 3: No, he never got back on top because he's one
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Speaker 3: corn on the cob stream.
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Speaker 1: It didn't take fifty cent.
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Speaker 3: To do that much to ruin his whole career. You know, yeah,
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Speaker 3: he was making hits, but it hits at the expense
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Speaker 3: of what.
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Speaker 1: But Jarul is a scammer. Anyone who can growl on
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Speaker 1: audio and make a career out of that is a scammer. Sorry.
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Speaker 3: DMX was the number one of that and he was
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Speaker 3: not a scammer. He was about that life. He was
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Speaker 3: a pig bull and a scope that was eve never mind,
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Speaker 3: so sorry.
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Speaker 1: That was the issue with GMx. He could stand in jail.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm about that life. True about that life.
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Speaker 1: He's like, this is my brand or is it? It
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Speaker 1: was so amazing having you.
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Speaker 3: I had a good time, but I'm still upset you
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Speaker 3: did not help me from the issues that I had
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Speaker 3: from yesterday.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We're going Look, I'm gonna give you a
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Speaker 1: be more comforted. Like when I get older, I have
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Speaker 1: to get breast and plants because I want to be
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Speaker 1: like a wise black woman. You have to have huge
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Speaker 1: tits to be a wise black Woman's let you know
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Speaker 1: you do. No one wants to hug you with your
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Speaker 1: like tits not be and enveloping them. You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's gross. I don't want to feel your tips.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I want to be in Oprah's tits
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Speaker 1: so bad like and just crying them and I bet
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Speaker 1: they're so soft. Okay, you will not do that to
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Speaker 1: our queen heart.
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Speaker 3: That is my president. How dare you you.
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Speaker 1: Better respect her? I do respect. We don't even mention
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Speaker 1: that she has breast today. That's so weird. You're nasty.
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Speaker 1: She is family. I'm not sexualizing them. I'm saying when
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Speaker 1: you always saw it, I want to cry on them. No, Ill,
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Speaker 1: you've been around too many men. That's what that is.
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Speaker 3: That's that toxic masculinity coming out pouring out of you.
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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm being called a toxic masculine person podcast. I
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Speaker 1: don't care about them, them bundles you have in your head.
55:47
Speaker 1: You are a guy. I only wear the finest hair.
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Speaker 1: I watched them cut it off of the woman's head
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Speaker 1: you have. You're on a show. Now you have to
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Speaker 1: do better.
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Speaker 3: Like if I was on a tube show, bitch, first
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Speaker 3: of all, I wouldn't even be on this podcast. I
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Speaker 3: would be like, first of all, I'm gonna have twelve
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Speaker 3: assistants do my podcast for me and just mention my
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Speaker 3: name every two seconds, and and and also I would
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Speaker 3: also promote the show every two seconds.
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Speaker 1: I'm a scammer. I least get my hands dirty. I
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Speaker 1: like to be a part of it. You are, You're
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Speaker 1: out here doing the fieldwork. And but where can people
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Speaker 3: Okay, guys, so I'm on Instagram, just said BW. If
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Speaker 3: you want to see photos that are lit liddy with
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Speaker 3: so with long ass captions, that's where you go.
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Speaker 1: Twitter.
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Speaker 3: I'd be struggling on there. I'm a work in progress.
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get to ten k followers. I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: get there, but it's gonna take me some time. Go
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Speaker 3: to just said NYC with why sid with a y Yeah,
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Speaker 3: just said NYC.
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Speaker 1: No, just sid b W n y C. Girl, Twitter handles.
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Speaker 3: Hold on, I don't know my handles because I don't
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Speaker 3: really want people to go to Twitter like that because
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Speaker 3: I'm like embarrassed that I should be doing better.
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Speaker 1: Okay, it's just said NYC. So that's j U s
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