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2/19/26: Iran War Imminent, Israel Detains Tucker, Prince Andrew Arrested · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 2: Trump officials say there is a ninety percent chance we
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  Speaker 2: are going to war with Iran as an insane amount
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  Speaker 2: of firepower is moved into the region. Tucker's producer is
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  Speaker 3: let's go ahead and start off with Iran. Just a
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  Speaker 3: titanic amount of US military assets arriving in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 3: some not seen since the Iraq War and the Gulf
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  Speaker 3: War before that. It's very much reminiscent of the military
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  Speaker 3: build up around Venezuela before the operation to kidnap Nicholas Maduro.
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  Speaker 3: Professor John Mehersheimer was reacting to all of this yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Let's take a listen, and Israel wance zero enrichment capability.
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  Speaker 4: They want the whole nuclear enrichment infrastructure taken down. They
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  Speaker 4: want Iran to eliminate all the ballistic missiles that has
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  Speaker 4: that can hit Israel. They want Iran to give up
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  Speaker 4: supporting the who. These has Blah and Moss, and these
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  Speaker 4: are demands that there's no way the Iranians are.
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  Speaker 5: Going to accept. So even if Trump can work out
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  Speaker 5: a deal that's satisfactory to him along the lines I
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  Speaker 5: described before, it's not going to satisfy the Israelis, and
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  Speaker 5: the Israelis have made it very clear that they will
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  Speaker 5: attack Iran alone if that is necessary. And of course
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  Speaker 5: if they attack Iran, there's no way we don't get
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  Speaker 5: involved because we're going to then have to help defend
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  Speaker 5: Israel when the Iranians start launching ballistic missiles at Israel.
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  Speaker 5: And also we're going to get involved because the Iranians
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  Speaker 5: are in all likelihood going to try to shut down
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  Speaker 5: the straits or horror moves and stop the flow of
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  Speaker 5: oil out of the Persian Gulf. So I don't see
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  Speaker 5: what Trump can do.
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  Speaker 3: Tote Professor Meersheimer's warning there about what this is all
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  Speaker 3: really about in some of the bigger stakes. This all
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  Speaker 3: comes again as all of these military assets which we're
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  Speaker 3: about to show you are arriving in the Persian Gulf
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  Speaker 3: and in the surrounding Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: You also have US assets.
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  Speaker 3: And service members non essential personnel being evacuated from these bases.
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  Speaker 3: All signs are currently pointing to this. The White House
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  Speaker 3: was asked about yesterday whether they would strike Iran or not,
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  Speaker 3: and they certainly would not neither not rule it out.
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  Speaker 3: But so there's a lot of good reasons to do. So,
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  Speaker 3: let's take a listen to the Press secretary.
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  Speaker 6: Can you share a little bit about the President's thinking
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  Speaker 6: on whether or not to strike Iran, who he's talking to,
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  Speaker 6: what information he's consuming, and why a strike might be
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  Speaker 6: necessary on a nuclear program he says was obliterated by
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  Speaker 6: the last US strike.
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  Speaker 7: Well, there's many reasons and arguments that one could make
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  Speaker 7: for a strike against the against Iran. The President had
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  Speaker 7: a very successful operation as Commander in Chief with Operation
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  Speaker 7: Midnight Hammer, as you know, as you just said, totally
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  Speaker 7: obliterated Iran's nuclear facilities. The President has always been very
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  Speaker 7: clear though, with respect to Iran or any country around
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  Speaker 7: the world, diplomacy is always his first option, and Iran
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  Speaker 7: would be very wise to make a deal with President Trump.
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  Speaker 7: And with this administration, he's talking to many people. Of course,
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  Speaker 7: his National security team first and foremost, and you know
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  Speaker 7: who the members of that team are. And this is
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  Speaker 7: something obviously the President takes seriously.
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  Speaker 1: He's always thinking.
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  Speaker 7: About what's in the best interests of the United States
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  Speaker 7: of America, of our military, of the American people.
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  Speaker 3: Many arguments could be foot forward as to why we
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  Speaker 3: should strike Iran. Okay, well, they're certainly not ruling any
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  Speaker 3: of that up.
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  Speaker 2: I like how they don't actually make the arguments though.
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  Speaker 2: They're just like, there are arguments bigger.
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  Speaker 8: Than out I have.
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  Speaker 3: There is no precedent in American history except for Venezuela,
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  Speaker 3: of this amount of build up of US military.
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  Speaker 1: This is more than Midnight Hammer. This is golf war level.
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  Speaker 3: Like we are talking about hundreds of thousands of US
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  Speaker 3: assets and all of that from across the world. You
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  Speaker 3: have air tankers, jets, service members, naval assets, carrier strike
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  Speaker 3: groups being built up. I mean, if you were not
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  Speaker 3: reading the news, you would have no idea and you'd
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  Speaker 3: have to like really read the news to be able
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  Speaker 3: to find this out. It's stunning to me they're making
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  Speaker 3: no argument, and I think because the more the American
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  Speaker 3: people learned, they'd be like, wait, I thought we hit
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  Speaker 3: them before you told me he was already over Yeah, So.
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  Speaker 1: Why do we have to care of it again?
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  Speaker 8: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: But what's the whole point of this? Because of some
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  Speaker 1: missiles for Israel.
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  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, I'm out. That's why they're not
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  Speaker 3: even trying. If you learn about this, you're like, this
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  Speaker 3: is insane. I'm not on board with this at all.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's also a bit of a boy who
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  Speaker 2: Cried Wolf dynamic going on in terms of the lack
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  Speaker 2: of attention paid by the media but also by the
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  Speaker 2: American public, because Trump is constantly threatening this or that
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  Speaker 2: in the other country, in Canada and Mexico and Venezuela
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  Speaker 2: and Greenland, and obviously some of these threats he makes
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  Speaker 2: good on in some certain way. But I think that's
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  Speaker 2: part of why there isn't more focused attention from the
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  Speaker 2: American people on this. To your point about the military assets,
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  Speaker 2: I was reading Matthew ho who's former military himself, and
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  Speaker 2: he had an interesting analysis here because obviously, one reading
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  Speaker 2: the military assets is it's a threat and it's meant
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  Speaker 2: to coerce them in negotiations. And even you know, one
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  Speaker 2: reading of all the Trump officials leaking oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: ninety percent chance that we're going to war, etc. One
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  Speaker 2: way of reading that is that's all basically a threat
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  Speaker 2: and a sign up to try to coerce the iraniance
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the negotiations. I thought this analysis from
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  Speaker 2: matthew Hoe was significant in terms of kind of debunking
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  Speaker 2: that narrative and putting some credence to the idea like no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is the thing they're actually planning on going through with.
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  Speaker 2: He says, this is the strongest indication to me of
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  Speaker 2: the seriousness of the US threat to Iran. The US
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  Speaker 2: has just deployed more than two thirds of its available
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  Speaker 2: E three command control aircraft to Europe and the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: The E three is an incredibly important aircraft for those
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  Speaker 2: unfamiliars to the large airplane that looks like an airliner
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  Speaker 2: but with revolving radar disc on top. It's loaded with
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  Speaker 2: an aircrew whose job is to observe, manage, and control
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  Speaker 2: the airspace in its area. It is especially important for
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  Speaker 2: directing fighters and ground sea based missile interceptors against Iranian
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  Speaker 2: missiles and drones. He goes on to talk about how like,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have that many of these things, and the
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  Speaker 2: vast bulk of them are now in the region, and
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  Speaker 2: it is not the sort of aircraft or military equipment
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  Speaker 2: that you would send to just be like, look at
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  Speaker 2: how tough we are. They're these like clunky, sort of
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  Speaker 2: like non impressive things, but if you're actually going to
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  Speaker 2: go through with the thing, they're absolutely essential. So I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was an interesting analysis, just to dig into
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  Speaker 2: what exactly they're sending into the region, trying to read
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  Speaker 2: the tea leaves of how serious this is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to all the assets.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the other reason why I think it's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen is this amount of air real refueling.
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  Speaker 1: That is the precursor. I've talked about this.
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  Speaker 3: So I met somebody who had an intimate knowledge of
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  Speaker 3: the so called op plan. The OP plan for attacking Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Midnight Hammer was like day one, part one of what
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  Speaker 3: it was supposed to be. It was a thirty five
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  Speaker 3: day bombing campaign which involves cruise missiles, a massive part
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  Speaker 3: of the entire US military stockpiles. It has all this
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  Speaker 3: contingency planning. It looks a lot more like this in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the refueling all the jets for the stuff
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  Speaker 3: to defend Israel, because the immediate reaction expected is not
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  Speaker 3: only strikes on Israel, but also strikes on the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Another piece of news many of you may have missed
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  Speaker 3: is that US military bases in Syria are all unceremoniously closing.
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  Speaker 3: Now you might think, oh, that's great, we've been calling
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  Speaker 3: for Yeah, yeah, Why is it closing now? Why because
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  Speaker 3: it is very closed to Iran, very susceptible to attack.
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  Speaker 3: They've had multiple sort of instances. Even the bases in Iraq,
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  Speaker 3: those are much more hardened than some of the bases
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  Speaker 3: in Syria that are the most vulnerable ones.
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  Speaker 1: So they're planning. Another thing many of you may have missed.
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump had a very sneaky line in truth Social
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  Speaker 3: just yesterday where he was going after the British Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister for this new lease on Diego Garcia, which is
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  Speaker 3: a Pacific base and for refeling and for taking off,
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  Speaker 3: and in it he goes, Iran, if we attack, may
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  Speaker 3: attack other friendly countries. So the contingency plans are everywhere
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  Speaker 3: for this entire thing. And this looks like the full,
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  Speaker 3: like the big one. Now, I'm not saying that we're
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  Speaker 3: going to see hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that that's what this administration will ever do.
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  Speaker 3: Because they've learned the lesson of Iraq. This is going
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  Speaker 3: to be Libya, style is you decapitate, you destroy, and
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  Speaker 3: you basically just declare victory immediately. And then when civil
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  Speaker 3: war erupts six months later, who could have seen any
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  Speaker 3: of that coming?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Let the Israelis continue to do the dirty work of
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  Speaker 3: all of that. And so, you know, let's turn now
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  Speaker 3: to the Vice President who was on Fox News talking
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  Speaker 3: about the negotiations, saying, well, in some ways they went well,
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  Speaker 3: in some ways they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 9: We would very much like, as the President has said,
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  Speaker 9: to resolve this through a conversation in a diplomatic negotiation,
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  Speaker 9: but the President has all options on the table. And
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  Speaker 9: you know, one thing about the negotiation I will say
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  Speaker 9: this morning is you know, in some ways it went.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they agreed to meet afterwards.
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  Speaker 9: But in other way is it was very clear that
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  Speaker 9: the President has set some red lines that the Iranians
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  Speaker 9: are not yet willing to actually acknowledge and work through.
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  Speaker 9: So we're going to keep on working it. But of
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  Speaker 9: course the President reserves the ability to say when he
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  Speaker 9: thinks that diplomacy has reached its natural end. We hope
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  Speaker 9: we don't get to that point, but if we do,
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  Speaker 9: that'll be the president's call.
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  Speaker 3: President red lines. Look, this is all nonsense. The red
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  Speaker 3: lines are Israeli red lives. There's nobody cared about ballistic
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  Speaker 3: missiles until December when Prime Minister Netanyahu came here. This
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  Speaker 3: entire thing is a manufactured crisis, a war of choice
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  Speaker 3: on behalf of the United States. Iran is not closer
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  Speaker 3: to a nuclear bomb. They're not even claiming it right now.
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  Speaker 3: If they were, they would say it just like they
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  Speaker 3: did previously, they would release the intelligence. I mean, does
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  Speaker 3: anyone else feel dramatically insulted? At least last time around
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  Speaker 3: we had the yellow Cake, the uranium, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: and Colon Powell and his president. At this time around,
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing. I mean, this is more bullshit than he Rock,
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  Speaker 3: which I never thought I would live to see. I
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  Speaker 3: truly did not live think I would ever live to
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  Speaker 3: see this.
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  Speaker 1: But here we are.
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  Speaker 2: They're not bothering to manufacture a real case. So if
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  Speaker 2: I had to guess what is going on here and
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  Speaker 2: what has gone on here is effectively Trump wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do some little sort of like you know, choreographed exchange
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  Speaker 2: similar to the Twelve Days War with Iran previously, and
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  Speaker 2: so there was a level of assets in the region
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  Speaker 2: that would be commensurate with that sort of approach, and
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  Speaker 2: then the Iranians were like, no, we can't just keep
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  Speaker 2: letting you attack us and just do symbolic responses. We're
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  Speaker 2: serious this time, We're not messing around. And so that
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  Speaker 2: pushed the timeline back because then you have to usher
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  Speaker 2: more assets into the region. And as long as you
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  Speaker 2: are allowing Iran, allowing Israel to sort of like pull
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  Speaker 2: your chain and move the red lines. And now Trump
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  Speaker 2: has backed himself into this corner, it's hard to see
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  Speaker 2: how they get out of it. And I think, what,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the reason why they have so much that
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  Speaker 2: they've moved to the region is because they want to
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  Speaker 2: not only de capitate the regime, they want to degrade
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  Speaker 2: their capability sufficiently that they can't really adequately respond. And
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  Speaker 2: so that's why they're going for this potential approach of
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  Speaker 2: like overwhelming force, and maybe that will be successful.
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  Speaker 8: And maybe it won't.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you, anytime you're talking about connect action, you
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  Speaker 2: are taking incredible risk. You are courting an unbelievable amount
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  Speaker 2: of chaos. And Iran does have cars that they can play.
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  Speaker 2: They were doing some military exercises in the straightup moves
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  Speaker 2: to remind you, like, listen, this is a very important
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  Speaker 2: part of the world. We have our own choke points
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  Speaker 2: that could be very painful for your population, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And yes we're going to we will suffer, probably more
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  Speaker 2: than you, but we can make your people suffer too.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't want this war. They are not behind you.
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  Speaker 2: So there's going to be zero appetite from the American
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  Speaker 2: people to suffer on behalf of this war of choice
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  Speaker 2: against Iraq.
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  Speaker 1: I see the difference. Our public is not engaged. This
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  Speaker 1: is the biggest story in Iran. This is all anybody
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  Speaker 1: in Iran is paying attention to.
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  Speaker 3: And as we all found out, you know, during the protest,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like people like love the regime. But if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to be attacked by an outside power, guess what.
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  Speaker 3: That's the dream of the power, the party in power
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  Speaker 3: for somebody like them, who's actually quite weak. After a
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  Speaker 3: protest like this, sure they remain in power. No, now
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  Speaker 3: there's a rally around the flag. I mean, the best
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  Speaker 3: hope from the United States. This is what I think
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  Speaker 3: is going to happen. And this is where also if
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  Speaker 3: you're anti war, we should call it like we see it.
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  Speaker 3: What they want is for us to say tens of
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  Speaker 3: thousands of Americans will die, That's probably not going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: What's probably going to happen is a massive air campaign,
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  Speaker 3: very similar to what happened with Libya, a no fly zone,
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  Speaker 3: a destruction of IRGC facilities and nuclear research, maybe a
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  Speaker 3: killing of the Ayahtola. It'll be like a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Then they'll say mission accomplished. Whoever comes in next, you
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  Speaker 3: negotiate on our terms. That's it, period. But we will
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  Speaker 3: never occupy that way they can make fun of us
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  Speaker 3: of who are anti war. See you said it would
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  Speaker 3: be a forever war, kind of like with Venezuela. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they were not actually going to care if it's a
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  Speaker 3: democracy or whatever. You know, Oh, Israel cares whether Iran
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  Speaker 3: is a democrat. No, okay, they prefer a monarchy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they'll fly raise Apolovy or something like that back
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  Speaker 3: into the country. But my point is the way that
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  Speaker 3: this is going to go, they're going to use the
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  Speaker 3: tip of the spear of the US military. We saw
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  Speaker 3: it in Venezuela Special Operations, the only like the part
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  Speaker 3: of our military, like the best of the best of
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  Speaker 3: the best. Same with our ariel Like, yeah, there's nobody
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  Speaker 3: who even comes close to American air superiority. But the
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: point is, and this is where I wanted to remember,
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  Speaker 3: strategic endgame. Libya looked like a dramatic success. It was
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  Speaker 3: very popular actually at the time, until it became a disaster. Syria,
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  Speaker 3: same thing. I mean, oh, supporting the rebels, the red line,
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  Speaker 3: chemical weapons, how could you be against that? Fourteen years
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  Speaker 3: later there's a massive civil war, half a million people,
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  Speaker 3: all of that are dead, dramatically unpopular, the refugee crisis,
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  Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen. And then the Israeli part
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  Speaker 3: of this is very important too. They're going to try
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: and tell you this is about going after the Iranians.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: The Iranians are bad. What the Israelis want is to
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: turn Iran into Syria, into a rump state which is
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: beleaguered by civil war where they can go and assassinate
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Irgc people. They want it to splinter. They don't want
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: any more regional power. They want to see it collapse
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: into a full blown civil war that eventually, you know, oh,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: if it comes out better on the other side, like
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: with Syria, who cares al Qaida whatever? As long as
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: he's pro Israel, it doesn't matter to me, right, So
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: this is not about the Iranian people. They will have
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: an immense, immense amount of suffering. And so for those
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: of us who are against this, we have to calibrate
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: our expectations. They want us to freak out, to say
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: that hundreds of troops are going to die. That's again,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I really don't think that's going to happen. There will
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: be pain, almost certainly. We shouldn't underestimate our own military
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: capabilities when you throw it all out, as we all
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: saw against Saddam, right against Saddam, Shock and awe.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it works, It actually works pretty well.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: We can never do the next part, and you cannot
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: have faith in these people because this time around they
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: won't try to go for democracy. They're just going to say, well, oh,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: as long as they don't pursue nukes. But inside that
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: bubbling cauldron is a nightmare, as we've seen every single time.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: One more point on that, which I think ties in
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: with the Epstein Files coverage that we've done and what
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: we've learned from the emails Jeffrey Epstein sending to any
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: number of people, is that the Epstein class views war
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: as a positive, like as an overt positive. They see
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the chaos, the death, destruction, as this is how we
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: consolidate more wealth and power. So you have you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: you have a whole class of people who are cheering
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: for war with Iran because they want exactly the warning
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: that Soger issuing about like this, you know, failed rump state,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: civil war, refugee crisis, chaos, economic collapse, all of those
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: sorts of things. There is a very powerful class around
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the world that looks at that and goes, great, that is,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: that's my moment to shine. That's where I can gather
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: up even war, That's where I can feast on the
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: carcass of this country and benefit directly from that chaos.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And so as you're looking at you know, this very
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: likely war and all of the other ones that we
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: just can't stop, you know, we continually don't blunder into,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: intentionally get ourselves into around the world. That is a
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: lot of the logic of why we continually go in
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: this direction.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Okay, So let's go to A four then,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: just to show everybody the plan. And so if Barack
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Revit is writing it, you know it's all there. Trump
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: moves closer to a major war with Ron. The Trump
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: administration is closer to a major war in the Middle
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: East than Americans realized. US military operation would be a
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: quote massive, weeks long campaign that would look more like
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: full fledged war than last month's pinpoint operation in Venezuela.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: The source is noted.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: It would likely be a joint US Israeli campaign that
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: is much broader in scope and existential for the regime
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: than the twelve Day war previously. Such a war would
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: have dramatic influence on the entire region. Trump came close
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: to striking Iran in early January. When the window of
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: opportunity passed, the administration shifted to a two track approach
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: nuclear talks paired with a massive military build up. By
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: delaying and bringing in so much force, Trump has raised
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: expectations for what an operation will look like if a
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: deal cannot be reached. Right now, a deal does not
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: look likely, and again the reason why is because the
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Iranians have willing to negotiate all day long on nuclear enrichment.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: But what they're saying is we have to have some
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: sovereign capability to have a civilian nuclear power. Look, maybe
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: they're lying. I know We're not going to take their
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: entire word for it. The whole point for them is
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: they're saving face. There's legitimacy, there's sovereignty, that's all involved.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: But the real redline for them is the ballistic missiles.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: They're like, we will not allow Israel to attack us
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: at will. We cannot do that, which again you can
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: understand that for any state that exists, yet effectively what
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: their strategic logic is, well, we might as well punish
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: them and show them that we can do something and
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: hope they're see, this is the real tragedy of it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: We have set up the circumstance where these people, I mean,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: what do they tell us all the time? They are
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: not afraid to die. I actually believe that now at
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: this time, I think that the IRGC and the IOTOL
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: and all those other people, they know ninety percent of
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: them will be killed.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I think they know that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: But they're like, at the end of the day, the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: logic for preserving our regime, which again they believe in
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: the logic and all that of the Islamic Republic, is
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: that some of us will make it out of here.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: And the hope is that the ten percent who make
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: it they'll survive, and this is about our sovereignty, and
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: they know that they're going to be killed. Like they
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: are very aware of their military capabilities. It's they're not
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: going to be able to do very much. They can
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: do some damage, and I certainly think that they will,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: but it's not going to be even close. All they
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: can hope for is an insurgent Hoothy like strategy, spread
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: the weapons around and just be a pain in the
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: ass for a very very long period of time and
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: open that You and I if we have to go
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: to the gas pump, are like, hey, why am I
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: paying five point fifty a gallon? Right, which again, the
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Hoothies were very capable of doing, and we're not nearly
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: as capable as the IRGC. Same with an insurgency, as
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: we saw an I rack, they want to make it
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: as miserable as possible. That it's a long and a
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: very dangerous thing for the civilian population. So this is
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: bad because they know that thousand, I mean, who knows
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: how many civilians would be killed in an Israeli US
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: operation against you. It's a nightmare for the Iranian people. Yeah,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: then it's a nightmare too because the government is basically like, yep,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: they're all going to die, and so are we.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: It's self suicide.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: And then the real nightmare on our part is our
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: population is asleep, you know, watching the NBA or something
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: like that, and when are they going to wake up?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Only when the bombs start falling on Tehran. They have
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: no idea that anything's going on right now.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I mean from the Iranians perspective, they're
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: like these Americans. And by the way, they're like Gulf
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Arab allies are coddled, you know, in the UAE and
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: wherever they're like outnumbered. Their population is outnumbered by their
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: indentured workforce. They're you know here in the US, they're
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: they're not bought in on this idea. They're not ready
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to pay any sort of price, and so we can
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: exact some pain now, I mean maybe they can, maybe
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: they can't, depending on how effective that first wave of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: strikes are. But you know, that's this is the logic
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that we've created multiple times. We've now had the Iranians
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: agree to effectively these choreographed responses where it's like, Okay,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we think this right tactical approach is will do a
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: limited response that doesn't result in any US soldier deaths
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: or significant damage, and then that will persuade them to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: leave us alone. And clearly, clearly that approach hasn't worked,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: so now they're okay, Well, I guess we have to
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: take a different approach. The idea that they would give
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: up their ballisticness, I mean, that is insane. No country
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: would agree to that. Then you can't project force at
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: all in your read I mean you're just a sitting duck.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Then for Israel and you know, whatever they then their
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: approxy and whatever they want to do to you, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: for us as well, there is no and that is
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: intentionally put in to these negotiations, inserted into these negotiations
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: by nat Yahoo and agreed to by our idiot president
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: as an intentional poison pill. Let's go ahead and play
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and take a listen to this is a professor at
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the University of Tehran who you know speaks to Western
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: media quite a lot, or I guess, like you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: western but non establishment media quite a big English.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: He's basically a regime translator for the rest of us,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: which is fine.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: We want to show people what they're thinking.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Of well, and in fairness to him, I mean you
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: live in Iran, your university professor like your ability to
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: completely speak freely is going to be curtailed. But in
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: any case, I wanted to play a bit of how
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: he is explaining the view from inside Iran and how
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: they're thinking about, you know, we as we pursued on
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: this march to war, how they're thinking about what they have,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: what this is about, and what chips they have to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: play as well.
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: Let's take a listen to that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: This is not a normal part of the world. This
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: is not an ordinary region. It is full of oil
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: and gas installations, oil and gas wells, It is full
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: of refineries, it is full of ports for exporting oil
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: and gas, importing goods from the West through all the
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: wealth that is accumulated and from different parts of the world.
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: And then you have ships hankers coming and going. Then
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: you have the Strait of Hormos. The Persian Gulf itself
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: is not very wide. Iran controls one side of it
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: and islands in the middle of it. And then there's
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: the Indian Ocean. There is with the missiut capabilities and
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: drone capabilities that he run has, whether they're from the
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: sea or the land. The global economy will be devastated
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: and the price of energy will go through the roof
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: Trump being weak and vulnerable as things are unpopular people
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: opposing war in the United States, you now have a
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: very difficult economic situation. It's getting worse in the United States.
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: And then to add on all that is of course
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: the exposure of the Epstein class to the American people
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: and the cover up and the continued cover up. So
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: he's not going to have popular support when he engages
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: in war, and when the pain starts kicking in, Americans
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: are not going to like that. His own small, his
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: own thirty percent or so supporters are going to be
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: the first to be outraged when they lose their jobs.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting, and he mentioned several times
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: around this interview the Epstein class and tying that in
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and saying this is this war and the whole march
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to war, this is the doing of the Epstein class,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and talking about the vulnerability of Trump, who was both
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: in the files and also you know, responsible for this
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: mass cover up that has created this back last year
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: in the population.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: What do you learn from that? They're not stupid?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And like, that's one of the things I really hate
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: often about the way that we paint our adversaries, even
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: with the al Qaeda with the tether. Oh, they're just
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: you know, goat herders and caves. So I'm like, yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the gunman maybe, I'm like, the people at the top
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: are definitely not like that same thing with you.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you hear all the time? It's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a great civilization, you know.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: They they invented math and all of the right, they
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: have this great air of learning. And yeah, that's the point, like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: we're not up against a bunch of roots. Like these
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: people have survived for decades despite being punished by the West,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: including with sanctions.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I mean items for I mean, like you said, decades,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that's an astonishing accomplishment. Yeah, I mean, this isn't the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: first time an American regime has wanted to take them out.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: And they've survived and you know, and I can't say thrive,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: but they've survived.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Nonetheless, that's all they care about is survival. I mean
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: North Korea is a similar example. Like if you if
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: you're willing to bear pain, you can live as long
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: as you sprint to a bomb. Well, what we see
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: inside of their logic is also they're obviously paying deep
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: attention to US and in an asymmetric conflict Vietnam.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of people forget this.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Everyone people said the same the HO team in he's
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: just a communist guy and no, Like they were very intelligent.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: They deeply exploited the cleavage and American society over the
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Vietnam War, and they intentionally fed into that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: They would invite Jane Fondo over right, and.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: They had all these press conferences and they would make
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: it very clear with their propaganda like all of this
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: can end. This is not about you. You're being taken
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: advantage of. You're being drafted and sent to die. Like
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: they speak fluent English, they knew exactly how to play
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: into the problems for LBJ and the whole ten offensive thing.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Remember that we were killed LBJ wanting to run for
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: reelection like they know exactly what they're doing. You should
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: remember then that the Iranians have a very similar capacity.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I am a bit skept and actually this will be
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a great testing ground for many of my theories of
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the US military. I have long believed we're like a
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Rolls Royce engine, which is really really cool but requires
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: an insane amount of mechanics and uptake and cost hundreds
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars. And what I've always feared is
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: that it could be taken out by these ten thousand
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: dollars drones in mass capacity with the Chinese and the Russians,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: as the Ukrainians frankly have been able to stand up
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: even to their limited capacity against the Russians, like all
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: you need is drones running off to be able to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: defeat like much more expensive technology. This will be a
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: genuine test case if it does happen. Can they actually
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: shut down the Straits and Hormuz? What are their capabilities?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: They could actually be a paper tiger. I'm actually I'm
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: not ruling that out, considering what happened with the Twelve
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Day War. So on the one hand, they had ballistic
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: missiles that were capable of hitting Israel. On the other hand,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: there was a disaster for them, like a lot of
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: them that were killed and infiltrated by the Mosad.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: It's very possible.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't put it past the US military to wipe
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: out all their ballistic missile you know defenses. I mean, God,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: our military has not been used in this way, I
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: mean since two thousand and three like who God only knows,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: ai pollunteer.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And all of this, like we could probably wipe it out.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: We could actually maybe destroy all their conventional capabilities.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: But again, that doesn't mean that we're going to win
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the strategic battle. So that's a long way, you know.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Kind of setting this up, let's put the maps and
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: all of that on the screen, just so you guys
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: can see all of these assets that are moving into
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the region from all of these refeeling tankers and different
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: military assets. And you talked about the command and control
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: planes and the US Navy. Let's go to that one.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: The next one, please third of the US military. US
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Navy is now operating in and around the Persian Gulf,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: two aircraft carriers air support. Harrison's with nineteen ninety one
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: and raises the question as as they say that nobody
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: wants to talk about and then a eight. Let's put
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: this one up here. This kind of highlights what I
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: was saying earlier. Iran is getting ready for war with
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the United States, is confronting its biggest threat in decades.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: The regime is trying to boost its odds of survival
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: if the diplomatic odds fall through. Tehran is deploying its forces,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: dispersing decision making and authority, fortifying its nuclear sites, expanding
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: its crackdowns. The move reflects its leaders belief that survival
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: of the regime itself is at stake. It's like I said,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, they know that they're all probably most of
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: them are probably going to die. So what you do
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: is you create a cell structure, you move it around,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: You try and create survivability inside of your command and
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: control networks. They have been hardening some of their things,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: and they're probably focusing on like a Pareto principle of
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: like the highest impact with the lowest amount of force.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Try and mine the straits of horn moves right and
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: make it so that it's instantaneous, like a button push.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Their ballistic missile capability probably will get wiped out very quickly,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: so then you need like very these different nodes and
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: things that they may not be able to hit in
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: a first strike. Again, I'm not going to underestimate the
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: capacity of the US military, but it only takes one,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: two three for it to change the entire strategic logic
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: of the situation.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, on the one hand, you've got the Venezuela example,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: where you know, Venezuela had supposedly significant capabilities that were
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: just wiped down right, and there was you know, not
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a single US service member is killed in this, you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: extraordinary action, et cetera.
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: On the other hand, you have the example.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Of the Hoofies, where it's this ragtag group of you know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: some like cheap some of it off the shelf technology,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and we're effectively defeated by that. We're like, okay, we're
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: just not really you know, up for expending what would
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: be required to deal with this situation.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: So we're moving in along.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: So you have both examples, you know, in recent and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: recent memory, and you know, to the point of Iranian preparation.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Keep in mind that we learned something from the Twelve
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Days where the Israeli has learned something from the Twelve
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Days or including the fact that they do have some
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: vulnerability to being able to hit them and penetrate their
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: air defenses. The Iranians also learned from the Twelve Days
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: War about what they're able to accomplish where those weaknesses
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and vulnerabilities are, you know, in terms of Israeli air
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: defenses in particular. So and they learned about, okay, who
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: are the infiltrators, you know, where how were we compromised
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: in this way? They also learned from the protest because
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you know, one of the things that happened during the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: protest is we helped to funnel a bunch of Starlink
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: satellites into Iran, so that you know, and we're you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: out there Mike Vompey and others bragging about, Oh to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the massage agents who are marching alongside the protesters, congratulations.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: So in any case, you know, the protests were a
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: fantastic opportunity for the Iranians to smoke down Okay, who who.
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: Are our ops?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: And with the starlink thing, One of the theories is
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: because they were eventually able to take the starlink capacity
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: down as well, So were they able to track which
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: you know, that was an extraordinary development. Were they able
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to track who were the owners of those terminals, who
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: was using that tech? Because that again would have given
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: them a blueprint and a roadmap to who are our
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: ops and how do we take them out? And some
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: of those would have been very likely you know, foreign
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: intel that could have you know, been causing problems and
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: providing intelligence to the Israelis most likely into the US obviously,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you know, those two being very connected. So they have
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: also learned and have some ideas of where their vulnerabilities are,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: where their strengths are, and the way that they need
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: to approach this as well. And so that's important to
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: keep in mind as too, that they have not remained
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: static to the point about the you know, the sort
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: of propaganda push.
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: This was interesting. Put a ten up on the screen.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Here you have the Iatola again getting in on the
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: kind of Epstein class discussion, and he tweeted out this
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: island of corruption, referring of course to Jeffrey Epstein's rape
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Island is only one example. There as much more of this,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: just as this was not a parent and then became exposed,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: there are many other things that will soon come to light.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: So a threat, a direct threat there that like, hey,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: we've got some stuff, and you know, I mean, the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Iranians have successfully hacked Epstein's emails and have been you know,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: successful Iranian hacks. And Ryan points out here, according to
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: search weren't used to search John Bolton's home, Iron hacked
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Bolton's AOL account three times. That cash has not yet
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: been released. Comedy is hinting at leaks to come as
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: several US are models flowed nearby with countless missiles.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: Aimed at his head. So maybe this is just an
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: empty threat.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: But you know, there's a reason to believe that he
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: could have some some goods here. He could have some
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: sort of compromont that is, you know, plausibly could be released.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: This is what you do, is you have to do
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: your best to try. You know, you leak stuff, you
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: make it difficult, you do the mining.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I'man on the one hand, I don't underestimate the US military.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: On the other, like I look at Outhi's I look
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: at all you know, we've had.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: A significant amount of planning.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I do know about all of the different problems in
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: logistics and supply chain. I mean, this is the problem.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: You always know something is going to go wrong. Nothing
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: ever goes exactly according to plan. Even in Venezuela, one
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: of the helicopter pilots got shot to shit in on
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the I think it was on the way out right,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Like it's a miracle he didn't die. Imagine how different
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: it is. I mean, think about the bin laden raid.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Always one of the most highly helicopter pilot. If you
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: don't have the best trained guy in the world in
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: that seat at that exact moment, everybody on the chopper dies, Right,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: it's a different world.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Half the Navy seals get killed. It's a nightmare.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And then the Pakistani military arrives. Like that, history turns
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: on a dime and you never have any idea, And
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: especially if you have all of these guys a multi
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: week bombing campaign. It only takes one thing to go wrong.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: And look at our look at think about the U
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: two spy plane crisis, you know with the Soviet Union,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: like it was the greatest plane in the history of
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: the world. Boom gone, shot out of the sky. Now
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: we're doing bridge of spies, like swapping people in West Germany.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Like that's it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Just you always have to hope for the best, plan
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: for the worst. And I've seen enough now over the
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: years just to know, like all it takes is one
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: or two different things. And we can I mean, can
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: you imagine if one thing goes wrong or if some
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: civilian tanker you know, misses the mine and gets blown up,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: and you know, several Americans are like, we're gonna be
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: living in a different universe, Like that's troop level deployments
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: and all that, and you can't look to the people
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: who are in power and are like, oh yeah, they're
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: they're they're definitely looking out for all of our interests
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: and trying to turn down the dial like no, it's
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: this is bad all right. And then the last thing,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I know, we've been talking for a long time, A twelve.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Can we put that up there on the screen. I
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: just wanted to show you all what the Secretary of
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Defense is up to. So yesterday, as all of these
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: missile you know, all of these carrier strike groups and
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: all of that are moving there, Secretary of headset joined
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: doctor Oz for a beachside brunch, hanging from trees, doing
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: cold plunges for leisurely afternoon quote into a Maha extravaganza
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: with tree pull ups, a cold plunge, and a Mediterranean feast.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: So really glad to.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: See the secretary so nice for Thank you, mister Secretary
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: for your service.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Last thing also shows you how essential disadministration thinks he
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: is to their planning.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: To last thing will put up here major shout out
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: to again the heroes of our Timeana Thomas Massy.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Let's put that up there on the screen. The last element.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: They are now.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Introducing a war powers resolution to debate and vote on
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: a war before putting US troops in harms.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: May harm's way.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I will make a motion to discharge a force and
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: vote on it next week, so hoping that this will
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: actually come to pass. Thomas Massey Rocana bipartisan resolution will
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: terminate the use of US forces from hostilities against Iran
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: without congressional authorization, which of course is like the final thing.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: There has never been a build up or a military
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: potential military action like this ever in United States history
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: of this magnitude without any congressional authorization. And by the way,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: it's not that the congressman all support it, they just
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: don't want to vote for it, so you hold them accountable.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me make that clear too.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Outside of like five people who are in the US Congress,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: they love this.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: They're all supported.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw Sanatra Mark Warner of course Democratic Virginia
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Ken Klippenstein was clipping him saying like, oh, I'm glad
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the President's keeping.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: All the options on them.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: This is our opposition for you. That's fantastic. But shout
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: out to Row and Thomas Massey. The dynamic duo, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: one dynamic that Massy was highlighting a political interview that
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I hadn't completely thought of. He thinks they're going to
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: be more Republican dissenters like himself going forward after primary season,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And in particular, one thing dynamic I had not thought
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of is, you know, Trump did this big redistricting push.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: You are going to have some Republicans who are redistricted
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: out of their seats.
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: Good point, they're gonna be like fuck you.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: But on the other hand, they'll have to think about, like, oh,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: if I piss off the president. No, not primary, but
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: what about my post congress job prospects if I'm not
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: in good with the administration, And you know, they'll have
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to balance that. But I did think that was an
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: interesting note for him that he expects in the future
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: there could be more room more Republicans who are retiring,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: who lost their primaries, who got redistricted down to their seats,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: et cetera, who might be more open to taking a
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: dissenting line.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold my breath for that one,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: but it'd be great to see. Let's get to Tucker Carlson.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: All right, we had to put this one. This is
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: just an insane, insane situation. So, for those of you
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: who haven't been following this, Tucker Carlson arrived in Israel yesterday.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: He landed at the jet terminal and interviewed the ambassador,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Mike Huckabee after a Twitter challenge in the airport. Now,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: he was only there for a couple of hours. Apparently
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: did not want to leave at the airport and the
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: protection around them.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Don't blame him. I wouldn't want to leave.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: If I were him, I would never set foot on
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Israeli soil, considering that, especially to go to Bethlehem or
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: any of these Christian communities with these crazy separatists with
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: guns who want to kill you.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Like I'm no way.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I saw some I saw some speculation that the Israelis
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: didn't want to let him in and there had to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: be some State Department negotiations that result in him just
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: like Okay, he's just going to Bendary and airport.
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: That's it, right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: So the Israelis are criticizing him for not leaving the airport.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Then there's also this reporting that maybe the State Department
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: was like no, no, no, you have to let him in,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: but just to interview us in our so who knows
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: what happened. Anyway, here's the story from Tucker and his team.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Let's put this up here on the screen. Tucker Carlton
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: quote detained in Israel journalists dragged into an interrogation room
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: as explosive interview sparks a diplomatic firestorm. So Tucker told
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: The Daily Mail that him his producer. Shortly after the interview,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Israeli officials confiscated his passport, hauled one of his colleagues
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: off to an interrogation room.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Quote.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Men who identified themselves as airport security took our passports,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: hauled our executive producer into a side room, and then
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: demanded to know what we spoke to Ambassador Huckabee about.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Quote. It is bizarre.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: We are now out of the country. This immediately ignited
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: a major firestorm, with especially from Israeli defenders. Let's put
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: their response up here on the screen. The Israeli Foreign
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Minister insists quote. Contrary to reports, Tucker Carlson and his
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: entourage were not detained, delayed, or interrogated. Mister Carlson and
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: his party were politely asked a few routine questions in
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: accordance with standard procedure applied to many travelers. Did you
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: note that many aka not all travelers, many travelers.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: The conversation took place.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: In a separate room within the VIP lounge, solely to
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: protect their privacy and to avoid conducting such a discussion
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: in public. No unusual incident occurred, and Israel Airports Authority
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: firmly rejects other claims. So basically their defense is like, guys, guys, guys,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: we didn't treat Tucker any differently. We interrogate and detain
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: and harass all foreign journalists. It's not clocking for you.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: This is how we treat everybody that is an international belief.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Now I'm like, oh, I believe Yeah, I'm sure it's
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: more that they're shocked because I mean, these people have
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: went to Moscow, Saudi Arabia, and israelis the country that
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: detains them, harasses them. I mean, look, do you really
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: want to parse it if you's led to a separate
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: room where people take your passport and ask you a
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: question that is literally interrogation, whether it's polite or not.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you this.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: When I was in Israel, I was there for school,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: and I was doing a program about counter terrorism. Okay,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: and I have never been harassed in airport more in
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: my This is long before any show. I'm twenty two
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: something like that, and they're like, well, why are you
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: studying this? And I was like, I mean, I was like,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: do you read the news? It was two hours constant
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: and I was flying to Jordan. Why are you going
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: to Jordan? Is your father Muslim? I was like, no,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: is your grandfather Muslim? Have you had any association this
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: is twenty fifteen. Have you ever had any association association
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: with Muslims in the past. No, where do you study
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: in the United States? George Washington Universe?
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Why when did you graduate to you know?
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: With this?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Well, why why are you coming here now? It's like, well,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I'm doing a master's. It's like it was never ending,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: and then uh, you had to go to a special
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: security line. And by the way, I was totally racially
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: profile because I was the only person who was detained
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: out of this whole group. And it was before they
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: even started questioning me. They came up to me like
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: the moment that I arrived at the airport based upon this,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: before I even had a beard or anything like that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: And it was NonStop and then you know, and you're
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: and again I'm flying too. I'm the funny thing is
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: you landed. I'm on They're like, welcome to Jordan. Yeah,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: that's what it was like over there. But even this
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: is me leaving the damn country. Oh, as an American citizen,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I have landed. I'm probably forty five to fifty different countries.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: It was the worst experience. And this is me as
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: a student. So now imagine Tucker Carlson and his entire entourage.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: So I believe Tucker and his team one, yeah, I
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: also believe the alas that there's routine to harass every
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: international journalist who goes in another car.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm ever going back.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's a tell. Is like, what is
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: it any of your business? What the interview between a
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: close ally of the President of the United States and
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: an American official, So an American media personality and an
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: American official, How is it any of your business? What
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: we discussed, what questions were asked, et cetera. I mean,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: it is wild. It just underscore you know, we get
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: fed all those other those only democracy in the middle
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: is bubba. It just underscales what a crock of shit
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: that is, and especially with their rationale here, like, guys,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: this is just how we operate, Like what is your deal?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: The other thing I would say is, you know, they
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: they are authoritarians and they're very fragile, like they're they
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: are so sensitive. It reminds me some of the way
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the Trump people operate, Like with this trying to you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the James Talerico interview and that whole situation. It's like,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: by taking this heavy handed approach, you are you are
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: undermining the very thing that you're trying to accomplish.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: Like now people are going to be even more interested.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: In the Tucker Huckabee interview and what was said and
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: how that all went down. You they clearly have no
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: understanding of the strivesiand effect. But the other thing is
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that their whole tactic is just to like scare people
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: and bully people, so that whether it's those journalists or
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: other journalists who hear of this story and don't want
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: to be harassed in ben Gurian Airport and decide, you
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: know what, I'm just going to leave this one alone.
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to do it.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, that really is ultimately the goal here, because
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the interview was already done.
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: There's no going back.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Now, maybe you can scare them into like editing some
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: part down, but I know highly doubt that that is
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: going to be the case. They've already got it like that.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: You know, they're already out of the country. It's it's
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: dune fine.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I know them. They immediately uploaded it to the cloud
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and got it. Yeah possible.
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: So the idea is like for future journalists to look
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: at this and be, you know, like, yeah, maybe this
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: is just.
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: Not really worth it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll tell you I'm never going back there.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Let's put Huckabee's tweet up there on the screen. Hate defense.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: By the way, this this is the humiliation ritual. Everyone
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: who comes out of Israel has passports checked and rech
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: temly asked security questions. Even me going in and out
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: with diplomatic passport, he goes even I the United States
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: ambassador and harassed going in out of this country. That's
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: how great this country is. You should be humiliated.
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: We're like, that's how cucked we are, right exactly, I'm
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: to be harassed, thank you.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, so the US ambassador even this question, like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: oh whoa, We're not doing that over here. We pay
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: for your shit, mister. I cannot believe that this is
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: what happened. It's also funny all these all these other people,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: They're like, guys, this is totally routine. When I flew
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: into Israel, I was also detained and harassed and my
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: staff was questioned. I'm like, uh, and nobody else seems
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: to have a problem with that, Like, what are you
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: talking about? Wow?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I just I can't believe it. I'm looking forward to
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the interview.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Uh, specifically, why mister Huckabee allowed a convicted spy Jonathan
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Pollard to come into his embassy on set foot on
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: US soil, literally a trader to the United States of America.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I believe that that beef is what set everything off here. Yeah,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Mike Hakabee, So we'll see. We'll see here for another
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Ted Cruz moment.
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: Sure we're likely to cover it here on the show,
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: so I can tune for that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Wait to see this one. Okay, let's get to Wexner.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Let's turn now to Leslie Wexner. But before we even
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: get to that major breaking news as of this morning,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: let's go ahead and put this up here on the screen.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Prince Andrew or I guess the Prince formerly known as
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Or Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew Mount Batton, Windsor,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: has now been arrested in the United Kingdom of suspicion
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: of misconduct in public office. King Charles says the law
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: must take its course, refusing to even name him as
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: his own brother, and saying that he respects the police
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: in their in their current investigation and they're ruthless.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Oh I love it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I'm loving every second of this entire thing quote. As
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: part of this investigation, we have today arrested a man
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: in his sixties from Norfolk on suspicion suspicion of misconduct
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: and public office, and are carrying out searches at addresses
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: in Berkshire and Norfolk.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: The man remains in.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Public custody at this time. We will not be naming
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: the arrested man per national guidance. Please also remember this
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: case is now active and should be taken with any
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: publication to avoid being in contempt of court.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: So this is very different rules there in the UK.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: But basically the King later confirmed this morning that Prince
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Andrew had been taken into custody. And there may be
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: some misunderstanding about this whole thing Prince Andrew is currently
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: being investigated, not necessarily for his conduct horrific conduct previously
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: with the pictures of him with the women in Virginia Guffrey, etc.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: And remember, you know, he maintains his innocence. It's about
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: the shared information that he sent Epstein which was in
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: the files. Remember he was the trade advisor to the
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: UK and he was sharing sensitive documents including his schedule
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: and other inside information with Epstein that is open clearcut
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: and a violation of his official duties which he was
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: doing at the time. That's what he's under investigation for.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: In addition, this is part of the Lord MANDELSSHN investigation
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: too for insider trading, for stock manipulation, for you know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: basically going after telling Jamie Diamond to try and blackmail
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: the Chancellor at the time. Like that's the criminality that
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: we're dealing with. Not to mention Prince Andrew, what is
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: an ex wife, Sarah Ferguson and all of her dealings
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: with Epstein.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's happening right now.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: So there's a deep this goes deep in the British
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: aristocracy all the way up to the Prince. I was
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: telling you, Prince Andrew is now the first royal in
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: four hundred years to be arrested. The last one was
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: King Charles the First in sixteen forty seven during the
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: English Civil War, who was then executed some two years later.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: So I would like to see some old Lindy justice here.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, well, I mean the while, I think
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the interesting part is, like you said that, what they're
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: going after him for, the thing that is most concrete
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: is abusing the public trust by sending the sensitive information.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: And it is very much like Mandelson appears to have
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: been up to as well and is now under investigation
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: for two and so you know, we've heard all this
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: nonsense in the US about there's nothing here that's prosecutable,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: there's nothing here to investigate. It does seem like this
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: sort of either abuse of public trust or insider you know,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: insider trading. That is one of the avenues that could
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: be the most clear cut in terms of legal consequences.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's easy to forget because
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: we're very American centric that Gleayne Maxwell first was she's British, Like.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: She's a British social upper crust. Yeah, I mean the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: elite of the elite.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: The Epstein class of the UK, and so you know
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: she had deep ties in elite society within the UK,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: and so there is massive fallout there, including you know, Keerstarmer,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: who already was deeply unpopular. He brought Mandelssohn into his
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: government at a time when this hadn't happened, hadn't all
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: come out, but it was known that he had had
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: some level of close Epstein contact, and you know he had.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: He has now been caught in a lie. Andrew's been
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: caught in a lie, Fergy's been caught in a lie.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: They all have been caught at this point in lying
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: about the nature and the extent of their relationship with Epstein.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: So people are rightly saying, like, you knew that this
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: guy was in league with Jeffrey Epstein when you chose
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: to bring him into your government. So this has really,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you know, really created a massive crisis for him at
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: a time when he was already politically weak with the popelas.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: It's a huge deal. Like I said, I mean, the
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: first royal to be arrested. So I was joking to
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: you Crystal this morning, I go, it doesn't feel right
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: to prosecute a prince like it's just it's like modernity
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: catching up with royalty. I think he should be banished, exiled,
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: married off against his will, hillaried in the Trafalgar Square,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: reduced to rags in a stockade, and then everybody, everybody,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: like businessmen on their way to work at eight am
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: in the morning of housewives can come and heckle and
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: throw rotten tomatoes at him.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Like that's what they that's what we need to see. Midievo.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Why have a king in a royal in the first place.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. So if we're gonna do it, then let's
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: do it. Let's do it right the Tower of London.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: You know, if you're there, you can do the you
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: can do the tourism liked for the Tower of London,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: like put him in there, you know, lock him up
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: and let all the tourists parade pass. Some Chinese people
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: could take selfies, so you're.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Basically arguing that they get the benefit of the archaic
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: tradition without having to deal with the archaic you know punishments.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: Yea, exactly.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: It's if we're going to look at it, if.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: We have the crown and the robes and the velvet
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: and the carriages and the palaces, and then we need
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: the other part, right, that was the interesting part for
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: the masses.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: So look, I'm not British, you know, sometimes I wish
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: But if I was, if I was a brit this
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: is what I would be demanding.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I want pillary, I want reduced to rags.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: But now, originally we were going to talk about the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Wexner story. Let's go ahead and start with that. See one.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: This is unbelievable. So for those of you who don't
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: know Leslie Wexner, he was the victorious secret billionaire, was
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: the source in many ways of Jeffrey Epstein's wealth. In
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one, he signs over power of attorney. He
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: eventually sells him the townhouse for a sweetheart deal, transfers
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: significant amounts of his assets, doesn't break ties with him
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: until two thousand and seven. He was interviewed under oath
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: yesterday by members of the House Oversight Committee, and he
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: has now testified under oath that neither the FBI nor
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: the DOJ has ever sought to question him regarding Epstein.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Let that sink in.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: This is despite victims publicly alleging his involvement an FBI
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: document that names him as a co conspirator.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: He literally is the source.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Of this entire thing, not to mention his modeling stuff
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: with Victoria's secret the properties in Ohio, as Ryan and
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: dropside of revealed, the Iran Contra planes that landed at
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: the Leslie Wexner base, which are then brokeer. I mean,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: this is unbelievable, and this is the bigger sign to
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: me of a cover up than anything, because you're getting
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: named as a.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Co conspirator in the document.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: You're a literally a billionaire, the source of his entire wealth.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Numerous victims and others are alleging Wexner involvement or wex
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: you know. And again to be clear for his lawyers,
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: he denies literally all criminality. His statement, which we have
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: some of here on the screen put C two up here,
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: is that he was duped by Epstein. He says that
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Epstein was a con man, that he conned him, and
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: that he stole vast sums of money from Wexner over
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: the years, and that you know, he's an unfortunate victim
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: in all of this. So I do want to be
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: clear that he literally denies all wrongdoing. He didn't know
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: anything about trafficking, never visited the island according to him,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: and all this other stuff that he's put out on
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: the record from his statement. But it is just absolutely
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: insane that he's never been interviewed, considering what we know
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: in the files from the co conspirator original document to
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: all of the other allegations and the information between the two.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, at the very least, interview him about how
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Epstein allegedly stole from him. That's a crime, that's embezzlement. Embezzlement,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: that's true, Or.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Never filed suit against Hide and never complained about that
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: publicly until now that you know, Miad did complain about it,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: but until became uncomfortable for him. That's kind of interesting, no,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, even just from the financial entanglement perspective, this
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: is the man you wouldn't want to talk to.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: Of course, well, I mean he's the one thing.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: He gave Jeffrey Epstein power of attorney over his whole
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: financial empire.
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's insane.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Drop Site had a great report where you know, the
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: philanthropic arm of what Wexner was up to, which, by
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: the way, they were some of the largest donors to
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: pro Zionist causes, and exactly right and you know there
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: they conducted a review. Oh how involved was Epstein and
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: oh really he wasn't involved at all? Well drop site,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: you know reported out was not true at all. He
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: was directing the whole thing.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Anytime a question would come out, should we do this
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: or should we do that, they would reply, ask Jeffrey,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Check with Jeffrey.
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: He was running the show there.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: And so at the very least you would want to know, okay,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: like why were you persuaded to hand over power of
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: attorney to this man? How much money did he have
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: control over? Let's talk about the sale of the mansion,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: what exactly went down there? What do you know about
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: any of this? And then when you add into that,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you know one of the first accuser, I think the
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: first accuser to come for Maria Farmer. Back in the nineties,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: she alleges that she was sexually assaulted at New Albany, which.
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: Is Wexner's whole town that he built.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: At Epstein's house in New Albany, which again she says,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the security there were all Wexner security. She had to
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: ask Wexner's wife whether or not she could leave. She
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: had to get permission to be able to leave. So
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: there is more than enough there, which just goes to
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: show you. I mean, there clearly was some investigation that
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: was done. We know Wexner was named as one of
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: the potential co conspirators who is being investigated. So the
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: fact that this all gets closed up and he never
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: gets charged with anything without even being interviewed is so
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: incredibly wild. That is a stunning That is a stunning revelation.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: And you know, it just speaks to also the incompleteness
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: of the documents that we've been given access to. We
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: talked earlier in the week about how it looks like
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: it may just be about two percent of the existing
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: files that the government actually has in its possession that
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: have been revealed to the public. So you know, it
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: shines the spotlight on the vast trove of questions that
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: remain a vast amount of information that we still do
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: not have access to.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's so unbelievable that this is
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: the I mean it is too Also, Wexner's eighty eight
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: years old. I mean, he can claim all sorts of
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: things now. At this point when it mattered, he was
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: completely you know, i mean, never never questioned. Is insane
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: and he's testifying.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: This under oath. Maybe he's lying.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I guess possible. Somebody needs to prove it. Then they
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: should prosecute him for perjury. If that's the case.
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: I don't I don't think.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I think I believe him.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it be the sort of thing that the
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: government could very easily check him on, right, you know,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: And so it would be it wouldn't be a smart
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: lie to pursue because it would be so easily debunked.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Let's continue when we're talking about foreign investigations, Let's put
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: C six up here.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: This is very.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Interesting, and I've been talking about this more recently. This
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: is about Jean Luke Brunell, who again was one of
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: these modeling agency conduits for Jeffrey Epstein. The Wall Street
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Journal reports that the accomplice who was going to testify
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: against Epstein then went dark. Jean Luke Brunell was actually
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: negotiating to provide prosecutors with evidence against Epstein in two
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: thousand and six, three years before he was arrested, but
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: ultimately backed out. Basically, he was considering working with Epstein
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: victims who were suing the Epstein estate while Epstein was
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: still alive at the time, Epstein was negotiating with Brunell
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: via Kathy Rumbler and a few other people, where allegedly
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Brunell wanted like three million dollars to shut up, and
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: it seems that the investigation didn't go anywhere. Now, remember though,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: what ends up happening is that Brunell goes to prison
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: in France and actually dies again, you know, allegedly by suicide.
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: So you can see hanging death cameras didn't work.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: And just so you guys know, they're currently reopening the
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: investigation in France after the release of these Epstein files,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: and you can see that.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Look, there's obviously a pattern. John mc Brunell.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, he has been accused of some of the
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: most heinous stuff and I mean, you know, you need
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: a tough stomach if you want to go and read
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: some of the things that those two used to reminisce
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: and to talk about. But it's the same relationship that
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: we're talking about here, modeling agency, key conduit, potential cooperation
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: against Epstein, goes away, gets arrested, dies by suicide in
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: a cell.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Emily's been surfacing some of the emails from the young
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: women who were promised this life of oh, we're going
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: to help you with your modeling career, and the way
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: that they were completely member. Those are one of the
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: emails in particular, says it seems like the only piece
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: that you we're serious about was me being your mistress.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: And so you know, and you've got a track or
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: sort of emails of Epstein effectively like grooming these girl,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: coaching them on how what they should say around these
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: powerful men. They're being effectively pawned off to this man
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: or that man as you know, sort of currency in
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Epstein's relationship with them. So the modeling pipeline is a
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: really important one. Now, the specific allegations against John luke bernow,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: like you said, are just utterly heinous. I mean, one
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: allegation is that he provided Epstein with I think it
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: was thirteen year old twins, provided him with thirteen year
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: old twins as a birthday present. Clearly his modeling agency,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: which you know was a it was a real modeling agency,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: quote unquote, that this was really used as a core
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: part of trafficking girls and young women to Epstein as
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: part of you know, his web of abuse. So yeah,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the revelation that he was considering cooperating,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: and then he walks away, and then he ends up
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: in prison, and then he ends up dead under very
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: strange circumstances. You know, there's a lot there. I recommend
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: people read the piece too, because some of the exchanges
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: here are very very enlightening about the way that Epstein
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: operated to and the type of like threats and manipulation
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: that he engaged in as well. You know the other piece.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Let's put C four up on the screen.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: So the.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: UN's UN experts are saying that the allegations in the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Epstein files could amount to crimes against humanity. And I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: just want you to contrast this reaction, and this is
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: from independent experts, a pointed by the UN Human Rights Council.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: Can trust this reaction.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: With what we've been fed here in the US, which
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: is that this is completely exonerating. To Trump, that's what
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: he says, that it's you know that there's nothing to see,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: there's nothing prosecutable, that there's no further even investigation that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: is worth pursuing. And then when you have you know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: new investigations open in France, you have former Prince Andrew
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: arrested in the UK, a total political crisis in the UK.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: There are other foreign officials who have lost their jobs.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Corporate America. Actually, there has been some fallout from you know,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Kathy Rummler lost her job. There's been some fallout there
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: in corporate America.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Any firm here, Yeah, that's right, it's crazy, like these
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: are very rich.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: Had to step away.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, look, let's not chet us
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: here for they're all keeping their money. They're all going
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: to be fine. But at least there was some level
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: of social consequence. The political class here escapes utterly unscathed.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, to go back to this UN report,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: they said crimes outline and documents released by the USDOJ
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: were committed against a backdrop of supremacist beliefs, racism, corruption,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: and extreme misogyny. They said the crimes showed a commodification
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: and dehumanization of women and girls.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's just undeniably true.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: So grave is the scale, nature, systematic character, and transnational
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: reach of these atrocities against women and girls. Number of
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: them may reasonably meet the legal threshold of crimes against humanity,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: the experts said in a statement. So you know, this
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: is how they are evaluating what is seen there. So
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: when you're looking at this and you're horrified and disgusted
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: and appalled and outrage that there has been effectively no accountability.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, the one person who's in prison for this
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: right now is Galaine Maxwell, and she's getting the cushiest
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: treatment you could possibly imagine and has the possibility even
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: of getting a pardon from this president. You know, when
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: you're appalled by that, just know that you're not insane.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Other you know, independent experts are looking at this are like, yes,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: this is utterly appalling, like degrading, horrifying and massive, you know,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: massive in terms of scope and reach. This behavior is
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: so appalling that we think it could reach the scale
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: of crimes against humanity. So just you know, an astonishing
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: result there. And so it's I get. I mean, I'm
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: glad to see that some of the accountabiit that's happening
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: in other countries.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: But it does just make you realize how utterly.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Without accountability and what utter impunity the political class here,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: the Epstein class here in the United States, and and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: even you know, the corporate America reckoning. It's not like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: any of them are having charged boot against them. It's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: not like any of them are taking anything other than
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: like a temporary reputational hit ultimately.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Exactly, so look, everybody stick with it. These are just
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: the latest and unfortunately, uh it does seem that other
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: countries are going to do much more than our country
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: to actually look into and hold accountable anyone in public
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  Speaker 3: life who had anything to do with this. So anyways,
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  Speaker 3: that's it's a tragic story, I guess, but maybe a
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  Speaker 3: hopeful one. Maybe we can get to that. Maybe if
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  Speaker 3: somebody runs on holding these people accountable, then they'll have
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  Speaker 3: to do it if they do come into office, but
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  Speaker 3: somebody already did though, and now this happened, so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: kind of a black feeling.
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  Speaker 2: We need a little bit more credibility this time and
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  Speaker 2: then you know whoever's going to take that direction. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've made them to not be themselves a direct member
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 1: I've really wondered about that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, how do you you know? I've seen how
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  Speaker 3: many presidents have promised I'm not talking about EPCCE, but
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  Speaker 3: generally on certain things come into office, turn on a dime,
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  Speaker 3: and we just fall for it every single time. Why
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  Speaker 3: do we always fall for and believe, maybe because we
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  Speaker 3: want to that it'll be different. It's it's always the
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  Speaker 3: same man, And I'm like, can we do something different? Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe you need a total shake up
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  Speaker 3: in the whole system.
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  Speaker 2: But again, what people, that is what people we thought
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  Speaker 2: we were trying that, right, I mean, I don't even that,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of people did.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you're talking about let's talk about Obama. How many
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  Speaker 3: people thought that?
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  Speaker 1: I thought it?
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  Speaker 3: Didn't you A lot of people did two thousand and
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  Speaker 3: eight hope change Iraq? Like we thought a whole new
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  Speaker 3: thing was coming to a lot of people thought about
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  Speaker 3: Clinton too, new guy, baby boomer, I never seen that before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me just say I think the most
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  Speaker 2: important thing to look for is you have to look
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  Speaker 2: at who the funders are. You have to scratch one
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  Speaker 2: layer deeper than the rhetoric can say. Okay, well who
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  Speaker 2: but who is actually like who is actually jacking this candidacy?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you are, you know, like go with Obama.
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  Speaker 2: The red flag was all the Wall Street guys loved him.
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  Speaker 2: They funded his campaign to the hill, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: he so that's that's who, ultimately, you know, was really
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  Speaker 2: running the show in terms of his administration.