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One Leg Up on the Immigration Crisis With Sgt. Betsy Brantner Smith and the National Police Association 6-22-24 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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Here's your host, Alex Garrett. Well, welcome back to the Alex Scaret
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Podcast Network. And with me today once again is Sergeant Betsy Smith. Is
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so great to have you back, Sergeant Betsy Branton or Smith. Alex,
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I am so glad to be back with you there. We have so much
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to talk about as always. Well, I know that you're part of the
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National Police Association, which means you have you know ties and you have info
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from every police department. So I want to start with the fact that we
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just were actually civilians just captured this migrant, illegal migrant who sexually assaulted raped
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a thirteen year old girl in Queens. And I'm so proud of those civilians.
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I'm sure you are too, and they took it into their own hands
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and then got the cops to arrest them. But does this mean the migration
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crisis is a little overwhelming for the police departments across the country. What's going
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on? Where do we stand with all of this? Well, you're absolutely
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right. We have enough crime here in the United States with our own citizenry
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without having to import it. And yet here we are, since the start
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of the Biden administration, we have at least at least seven million illegal immigrants
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coming into this country, and we're at the point now where we know that
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they're not just coming to you know, to claim asylum, they're not just
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coming to get jobs. And in fact, this is you're too young to
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remember this, Alex. But back in the nineteen eighties, when I was
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a young police officer, we had something similar, but on a smaller scale
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occurred. It was called the Murial boat lift, where Fidel Castro in Cuba
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at that time basically threw open his prisons and his insane asylums and he sent
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them all to Florida. And what we saw was one of the biggest crime
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spikes in the United States. And unfortunately, that's exactly what we're seeing now.
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Countries like Venezuela, El Salvador and more Chile are sending their criminals here
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and they're criminally insane, and so we are seeing our own citizen we suffer,
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including the case you just talked about, and of course we had the
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murder of Lake and Riley. We just had the finally solving the murder of
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a young woman in Maryland, all by illegal aliens. Well, and I
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tell you what the other thing about the city is I saw another migrant,
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you know, shot at the NiPd a couple of up a couple of weeks
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ago. I mean, it's just rampant. And on top of all this,
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do they think Biden administration things it's a great time to grant amnesty.
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And I know they only say it espouses and children, but it runs the
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risk of granting it to everybody, doesn't it. Well, absolutely, Again,
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if we go back to the very early eighties, Ronald Reagan when he
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was president, then sort of got hoodwinked by the opposite party and allowed amnesty
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to occur. And basically what that did was open a floodgate that we really
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hadn't been able to put a stop to until the Trump administration. We and
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I think that this new Biden amnesty plan, if you will, you know,
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talking about basically DACA folks, you know, deferred action for uh,
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you know, young people, people who were brought here unwittingly, you know,
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by parents or grandparents whatever, under the age of sixteen. The thing
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is is this will continue to open the floodgates because just remember, just a
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couple of weeks ago, the Biden administration said, Okay, we're going to
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issue an executive order on immigration. Now understand that President Biden has had the
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power for the last three and a half years to take back operational control of
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the borders. He hasn't done this, but a couple of weeks ago he
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said we're going to I'm going to issue an executive order. It really didn't
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do much. Everybody admits that it didn't do much, and I think this
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is some political desperation on the part of the federal government. So now with
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this new plan, it's we're talking about spouses of you know, people who
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are illegal married to people who are in this country legally, or married to
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American citizens, and there's some other things. But when you read this,
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and I encourage everyone sit down and read this plan, it's already litigation has
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already started as of yesterday, and this will continue to be litigated. So
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we're just going to tie up the future of these people in the court system.
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And of course we're going to tie up our court system when our immigration
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courts are already beyond capacity by years, if not a decade. So this
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is really a political desperation move, and it does nothing to help people who
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are here illegally that want to get right. For the government. With the
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government, it also does nothing to stop the flow of illegal not just from
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the southern border where I live here, but from the northern border. Now,
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as a part of the National Police Association, have you yourself visited the
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border in recent time? I mean, what are you seeing when you go
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down there? If you do visit, well, I do. I actually
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right now, I'm sitting in my studio about eighty miles from the southern border
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in southern Arizona. I live in a border county, and so yeah,
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I visit the border frequently. And what we see first and foremost, and
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we have a lot of a lot of contact with border patrol and other federal
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agencies. One of the things that we see is that the United States of
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America does not have operational control of the southern border. If you don't believe
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that, everybody needs to come down here and see it, because we truly
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the Mexican drug cartels, which we now call the Mexican crime cartels, who
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operate in at least sixty different countries in the world, they have controlled the
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operation of the They have operation control of our southern border. So what we
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see here in southern Arizona, I live in the Tucson sector, and that's
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where about forty percent of illegal aliens come through the Tucson sector. So in
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the county where I live, Pima County, Arizona, our local resources are
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so depleted because when all these illegals come, we have to deal with them
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on a local level. So of course we have homelessness, we have fentanyl.
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I also live in an area where we have several Native American reservations,
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So for example, the tahonah Odem nation where I live near, they are
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seeing the destruction of their land by these illegals who come onto their land and
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they literally chop down their tree to to burn the firewood because they can't stay
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warm. I know everybody thinks southern Arizona's hot all the time, but at
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night it's actually pretty chilly. We also see a lot of our social service
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resources being depleted in dealing with the illegals. We call them NGOs, right,
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non government organizations. Everyone always sees us. So organizations like Catholic Services
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and the Red Cross. People understand the Red Cross is deep into the illegal
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alien trade. They all get federal, state, and local dollars from time
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trying to take care of these people. But so in addition to just to
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the depletion of local resources, we see and have been seeing four years,
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the sexual assault of children of a young girls and young boys as well as
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young women. We also see at the airport here in both Tucson and in
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Phoenix, you see undocumented illegal aliens who get a special line at the TSA
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checkpoint. While I have to show my newly issued Arizona driver's license because we
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have to have a special one to get on an airplane, now, they
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just have to show that CBP APP on their phone and they have a Manila
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envelope with their paperwork. They're all wearing new clothes, new shoes, they
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have a brand new iPhone. They have a pocket full of cash and uh
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and there they get it from right. That's that's the whole They get it
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from us, from you and me and everybody listening. It's all tax dollars,
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and they get it from the government and they get it from the NGOs
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and alex. So many of the people I see at the airport, and
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I see along the roadways, and I see at the signs, and I
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see in the shelters are Middle A. They are young military aged men from
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so many different countries. We see them from the Middle East like Yemen,
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we see them from North Africa. We see and these are people who are
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not here to assimilate, and we really don't know why so many of them
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are here. But again, what happened last week, right, we took
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at least eight of them into custody terrorist ties and I'll tell you, I'm
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sure National Police Association and yourself followed that story very closely. That was really
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I got to commend NYPD LAPD feeling they really did a great sting to get
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all these guys. What goes into those kind of operations to bring to bring
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down terrorists like that, maybe you have some insight for us, well,
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absolutely, first and foremost, we have got to have authorities looking for these
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kinds of people. So there's you know, there's always a lot of electronic
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chatter around there. There's also just human to human contact, so you know,
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sometimes you know, we have you know, people who are not criminals,
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but they are in spaces where these criminals are, whether it's in a
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shelter or it's in a mosque, places like that. And we also have
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informants that work for different federal organizations. But it's a lot of monitoring so
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much of this chatter and understanding where these people are coming from and what they
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want to do to this nation. The FBI director Christopher Ray has been talking
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about this for months and months now, right, He's testified on Capitol Hill
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at least three times and talking about the blinking red light of terrorism. And
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yet so many people forget that nineteen men brought this country to its knees on
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nine to eleven oh one, Nineteen men from other countries who have largely overstayed
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their visas, and we're here illegally, we are heading in that direction again,
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and frankly, we're ignoring it. Well, it's uh, especially when
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I look at other ignored warning signs. How's the homeland security Biden's Homeland security
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Uh, basically being told by their own inspector general, Hey, you're not
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doing enough at the border, and they still do nothing. Did you wish
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my Orcis would have been impeached? I gotta ask you that. Well,
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you know, actually my orcus uh, you know, they did vote to
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impeach him because he Here's the thing, you can't continue to lie to the
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American people, And that's exactly when you when you sit on Capitol Hill like
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my Orcus has done and just say the border is secure, we have operational
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control of the border, et cetera. So you can't just lie. You
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have to tell the truth, you know. And if if this administration,
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if this Department of Justice wants our border to be wide open, which it
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is, then they just need to level with the American people. And that's
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what we all need to demand of our political leadership, is that you at
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least tell us the truth. And that is not happening. You know.
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The National Police Association, we don't. We don't get eaten up with,
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you know, different politicians. You know, we don't endorse, we don't
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encourage people who to vote for, but we tell people to get involved.
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We encourage people to vote, and we have got to understand that we the
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people, are the ones who are ultimately controlling this. And one of the
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things we talk about, you know, not just from a border perspective,
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but from an entire law and order perspective, is that we're the ones electing
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these politics, not just we can all eat enough. Who's gonna be president?
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Isn't that who sits on your county board, who's going to be on
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your town council, who is making decisions about who's prosecuting cases. These are
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some of the things that we need to look at to look at. And
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for example, here in southern Arizona, it's our county board that is taking
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our tax dollars and giving them not to homeless veterans, not to help citizens
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with drug addiction, but to illegal aliens who are coming into this country for
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unknown reasons. And I know in Arizona's already been a hotbed of other stuff
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going on right with the election and everything, that we don't have to go
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there. But are you worried about your state overall with all the things that
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have been going on in Arizona? Or are you worried that they're you know,
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it's is Arizona in trouble when they keep allowing all this stuff to be
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happening. Well, unfortunately, Arizona has become much more dangerous than we were
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even five and six years ago. You'll laugh, Alex, because my husband
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moved me here ten years ago from Chicago, and he promised me two things.
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He promised me a much safer environment and free and fair elections. So
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now I tease them all the time about, Hey, what happened to our
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free and fair elections. That's a non police issue. But when I look
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at safety, I look at my now hometown of Tucson, Arizona. We're
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the most dangerous town in Arizona and that that you know, and yet we're
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so much smaller than Phoenix, and it just it really breaks my heart.
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And it's not just because of the illegals, but we have got to understand
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that this massive influx of fentanyl and other related drug so much of it comes
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from you know, up from Mexico into the southern border, and we you
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know, feanol kills hundreds of thousands of people in this country. And yet
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you know, what are what are our political leaders talking about. They're talking
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about we've got to obeyan assault weapons and things like that. If we could
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just get a handle on the illegal drugs pouring into this country, and if
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we would understand the deadly nature of fentanyl and trank and all the related synthetic
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drugs that are coming into this country, we could truly take back my state
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of Arizona, and we could we could take back this nation. You know,
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we've got about eight hundred thousand law enforcement officers in this country that are
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desperately dealing with all of these issues. Drugs, illegal crime, you know,
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illegal alien crime, and so much more. And uh and while I
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see a great deal of support for the American law enforcement officer, now we
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still need so much more. Oh, we we absolutely do. And on
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that note, you know you mentioned the courts and the cops arrest the immigrant,
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the illegal immigrant, and then they're back out on the street. You
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mentioned the courts a little while ago. How can we vote differently so that
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we have judges in there that don't just play into this pc BS if you
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will, it's it's it's insanity if you ask me, Well, Alex,
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you bring up such an incredible point, because here's the thing. We again,
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we get so concerned right with who's going to be president and who's going
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to be our congressman and all that stuff, that when the when you look
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at your ballot, you know, a lot of us are coming up on
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primaries, you know, Virginia just had one yesterday. But when you look
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at your ballots, both your primary ballots, but then your national state and
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local ballot in November, pay attention to those local races, and a lot
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of us wonder, well, what I don't know anything about my judge.
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You know, this judge that I elect. Find out you can go online
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and you can find out how that judge rules. You can find out who
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supports that judge. And so you're exactly right. Don't just when you are
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voting in November, don't just fill out all the national and the state stuff
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and blow off the local stuff. Go and look at every one of those
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judges races, look at your county prosecutor, look at things like and again
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this stuff, a lot of this stuff is regional, whether or not you
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get to elect your judges, things like that. But look at who is
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your Justice of the Peace candidates, or look at who are your constable candidates.
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There are so many lower level offices that a lot of us as voters
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don't know a lot about, but they directly affect the law and order in
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our communities. And also take a look at your sheriff, your sheriff's race
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for example. Again here in my county, you know, we we have
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a big sheriff's race, and I don't think a lot of people are really
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informed about that. So voters need to inform themselves. And if you don't
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know how to do that, call the local party office of whatever party you're
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affiliated with and ask them who and find out who are the most law and
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order people that I can vote for, including judges. Now, I don't
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know how this immigration judge did actually tell authorities to deport this rapist here in
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New York and he was still here. How does that happen? What's that
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mechanism where the judge does rule that the guys we deported and he's not tell
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us a little bit about how that happens. Well, there's something called an
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ICE detainer. So you know we've heard in the last like six five six
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years, you know the you know, ICE, the Immigration Services, the
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actual organization that is in charge of deporting people. So ICE will put a
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detainer on someone based on a judge's ruling like what you're talking about. But
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very often the sheriff's departments in these very woke counties in these blue areas,
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or the city lock ups, the city police departments in these very blue areas
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will refuse to honor that federal ICE detainer, and so people who are slated
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for deportation end up getting released. And people who are American citizens should be
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enraged by this because if the federal government issues a detainer for you, as
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an American citizen. Let's say you're in jail for a DUI and the FBI
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wants to talk to you about something separate. They issue a detainer. You
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know what, You're gonna be sitting until the FBI comes and talks to you.
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But illegal aliens in this country, even criminal illegal aliens, have sort
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of obtained this super citizen's status, and so these detainers are ignored and they
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are released. This all goes back to if everybody remembers Reclaim Wall Street and
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Antifa and all this is prior to twenty twenty when there was this big push
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to disband ICE, and Antifa spent many, many, many nights, over
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one hundred nights trying to shut down the ICE office in downtown Portland. They
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set fire to the federal courthouse. All of that ICE has been under attack
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wrongly for many, many years. So many of these woke law enforcement organizations,
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and yes there are woke organizations, they ignore these ICE detainers and it's
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very frustrating. And now we have police departments like LAPD and Seattle PD that
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are going to hire and are currently hiring illegal aliens. Alex it's crazy.
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Well tell me about that, because there's there's a couple of thoughts I had
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to that. Firstly, obviously, if they are going to do that,
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hopefully they get those that want to actually root out those that are even you
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know, that are dangerous, and that would be my hope that those that
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want to join the police force actually want to root out the evil. Do
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you think that's going to happen though, I those are llegal immigrants join the
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force, that they actually go after their own or would that not happen?
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Well, here is the problem with and so just so folks understand, the
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Los Angeles Police Department last late last year and now this year, the Seattle
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Police Department have changed their policies so that they can they can take DACA recipients,
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people who are here or here illegally and do not have most do not
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have green cards and make them police officers. Now, the reason they're doing
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this is Seattle has lost seven hundred and twenty five police officers since twenty twenty.
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I mean, they're just bleeding cops. LAPD is in a similar situation
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and they're unable to get qualified people to come to law enforcement. And of
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course why is that Alex because we've had four years of the vilification and the
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demonization of this profession. So young people are saying, why would I want
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to be part of this racist, you know thing called the police. So
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anyway, the problem with I'm certainly not saying that all DACA people are bad
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people. But here's the problem. Should we allow someone who is a non
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citizen because even if they're hired as police officers, these DACA people are going
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to be illegal aliens, non citizens. Do we want a system where a
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non citizen can arrest and detain and potentially imprison a citizen of this country.
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That's a very chilling thing that I think we as citizens all need to think
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about. There's another problem with DACA people, and because they are illegal aliens,
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according to the federal government, they cannot possess a firearm. So how
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are you going to be a police officer if you can't possess a firearm.
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Now, LAPD has been working with the Department of Justice to address this issue,
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But then again, so are you going to have shenanigans where the DOJ
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is going to allow, you know, a typically blue city to have illegals
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carry guns. But then in Texas, for example, they can't. This
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is we're sliding down a extremely slippery slope here, and I think it's bad
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for the country, and I think it's bad for the profession of law enforcement,
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absolutely, especially when they see that the legal system is and I know
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we don't talk about them as much, but as convicting you know, a
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certain number of President forty five, but not the local illegal alien that's really
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attacking a teenager. Right, That's kind of the feeling I get when I
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think about all this. It's just the injustice, if you will. But
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well, yeah, you're right. I mean, people are seeing that we
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have a multi tier justice system, and it breaks my heart personally because you
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know, Alex, I'm sixty five years old and I in nineteen eighty I
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took an oath to uphold the constitution of my state of Illinois as well the
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Constitution of the United States, and I see it being shipped away. Yeah,
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And I see that justice system that I once revered and trusted and appreciated
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and worked well within. Now I see that system really being bastardized. And
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I see Lady Justice having her blindfold ripped off, and that is not how
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this is supposed to work. It just yeah topic. You know, there
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is an amendment in the Constitution that says the president should you know, basically
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defend the borders and not let illegal aliens. And if it's in the Constitution,
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isn't it an impeachable offense. I feel like Congress goes up the wrong
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tree with all this, with what they're trying to do with the bidmen,
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instead of just going at it with the Hey, here's what the constitution says.
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No one's actually talking about what the constitution says. Would you be agreeing
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with that? Well? Yeah, Politicians don't like to talk about the Constitution
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until it directly affect them. That's one of the frustrating things about politics.
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Our sovereignty and that's what you're talking about. You are not a sovereignation if
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you do not control your borders. You know. I have traveled all over
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the world and they're, like I said, not a single country that I
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walked into or flew into where I didn't have to prove where I was from,
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who I was, and why I was in this country where I am
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not a citizen. So we do not have control of our borders. I
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don't think anyone will dispute that so that means we are not a sovereign nation.
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And in the Constitution, you know, we are supposed to be controlling
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our borders. We are also supposed to the government is supposed to have a
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handle on the safety of its citizens, and yet we are ignoring this.
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Here's an interesting fact. Crime in Venezuela. It continues to go down every
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week. You know why, Alex because the criminals that are the Venezuelan criminals
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are coming to the United States. Very often they are assisted by their own
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government. So we have again criminals from countries like Venezuela. They're not coming
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here to assimilate. They're coming here to prey on our citizens. This immigration
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system has gone well beyond people coming here for safety or for a good job
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or whatever. We cannot have over seven million people where we have no idea
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who they are, where they're from, running around this country. We are
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no longer a sovereign nation. And I got to ask you, does it
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piss you off, Sergeant Smith, Betsy Smith, when you see even an
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American citizen who becomes when they shoot someone. I want to get to the
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guns for a second, because when a legal shoots someone, when an American
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citizen shoots someone, It's always about the gun, not about the person.
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Doesn't that Fissy Wof as a member of law enforcement and a speaker on all
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of this, well, of course it does. You know, the National
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Policesociation is one of the is the most pro Second Amendment police organization in this
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country. Let's get Let's just have an example of Father's Day weekend of this
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year, seventy one people shot in Chicago, nine of those fatally. We
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also had mass shootings in Oakland County, Michigan, Massachusetts, Columbus and Cincinnati,
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Ohio, Round Rock, Texas. And I could go on and on
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and on. Just in Father's Day weekend twenty twenty four, we had over
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three hundred people shot, seventy three killed. And what are we talking about?
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We're talking about the gun now, Alex I own None of my guns
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have ever hurt anybody, except for the occasional deer or antelope for food.
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My guns are not criminals. It is a choice to be a criminal.
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It is a choice to pick up a firearm and commit a crime with it.
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But especially the left, the anti gun people, they don't want to
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talk about the people committing the crimes. They just want to talk about the
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guns, and their solution is to take away everyone's guns, and that is
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not going to happen in the United States of America. That ship has sailed,
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all right. I want to focus on NY sixteen because I know you're
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following, But there was this incredible ad released about how Jamal Bowman, who
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of course was the firearm puller in Congress last year, but he apparently allowed
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a cup killer to be honored on the Brugs High School Wall of Honor.
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You are familiar with that story. But anybody in Congress who does that,
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isn't he centered for that instead of the bell the alarm ring. I mean,
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he should be centered for something like that and maybe even expelled, you
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know. It just it's incredible that he was allowed to do that and get
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away with it. Well, pulling that fire alarm was a criminal act and
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it really did not get properly addressed. But we see this all the time
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where we see certain politicians who who revere these cop killers and they they will,
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you know, like Assada Shakur is a is a great example. Even
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Barack Obama talked about her as a freedom fighter and this and that, you
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know, this goes back to the nineteen sixties, to the Black Panthers.
31:44
Even more recently, we had politicians, including the President of the United States
31:52
and other politicians talking about the ten year anniversary of the death of Michael Brown.
31:56
You know, even though we know hands up, don't shoot was an
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absolute lie. And the police officer who shot Michael Brown, who was a
32:07
criminal, he was a felon and a gangbanger. The police officer was absolutely
32:15
found to have done nothing wrong. But we keep talking about these criminals and
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revering them, and that's exactly what Jamal Bowman did and what it does.
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It's so disingenuous because again, you know, you're telling young people that we're
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going to revere criminals. Look, there are kids in this country right now
32:37
that are attending grade school at the George Floyd Elementary School. There are several
32:42
of them around this country. Why we were revering criminals when we should be
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revering military heroes and police officers and those good teachers and preachers and like you
32:55
said, citizen heroes who stepped in in New York to capture a thug,
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to capture a rapist. We have our priorities rather screwed up in this country
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very often, and I'm wondering if that was done in the AOC's district.
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I think it was actually where where there's rape happening, is Corona covers her
33:16
district. I mean, that's just that's disgusting too, that she wouldn't even
33:22
condemn this. I haven't heard the squad condemning that. I ever heard the
33:25
squad condemning the Free Palestine movement that is now telling Jews to get off the
33:30
subways. I'm sorry to ramp sergeant, but it's just at least I've an
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ear that would agree with me here. You know that they're not condemning any
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of this, and that's the problem. Well, and it is a problem,
33:42
you know when we when we talk about what's happening, for example,
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with uh, these these you know, pro let's face it, pro terror,
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pro Hamas, pro has Blah protesters. You know, this is pure
34:00
and simple anti Semitism. And you know, we have we the last time
34:06
that we had people on college campuses being stopped for trying to go to class,
34:13
being stopped from trying to get to their residence halls. And I'm talking
34:16
about Jews. Uh, you know, we had this in the fifties and
34:21
sixties with African Americans, and where where is the outrage? Where is the
34:27
outrage and anti Semitism? And unfortunately some of our political leaders are are the
34:34
ones propagating this. You're you're absolutely right. When we look at some of
34:37
the squad members, they're the ones who are propagating this anti semitism. And
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it's up to all of us. I've just got to say to people,
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it's up to all of us to to stand firm for our Jewish brothers and
34:53
sisters, to stand firm against discrimination and against UH pro terror activities, and
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it's up to us to know the truth and understand the truth. And yet
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some of the squad members are also saying that, you know what, news
35:10
outlets should not be talking about these crimes committed by illegal aliens, and that's
35:16
that's wrong. We all need to talk about it, and we need to
35:21
get loud and proud, quite frankly about our desire for sovereignty, our desire
35:28
to control our own borders, and our desire to support the American police officer
35:34
and our criminal justice system. Uh. Sergeant Smith, I got to ask
35:37
you this because you're clearly a conservative, but do you have friends on the
35:44
Democratic side that are just not speaking up that you want to speak up.
35:46
I mean, are there people that you know on the left that agree with
35:51
you but are afraid to speak up? If you will, well, you
35:54
know, you make a good point because this should not none of what you
35:59
and I are talking about should be a political issue. Right, people should
36:02
be able to have safety, They should know that their nation is sovereign.
36:07
They should be able to exercise their Second Amendment rights and their First Amendment rights
36:12
as well. And sure I have friends and relatives that that we don't see
36:17
eye to eye on politics, but you're absolutely right. Where I see people
36:22
that are what I would kind of call old school liberals democrats, I think,
36:30
well, there you go, there you go, and and that they
36:34
they you know, we have some differences, but these are people who love
36:37
this nation, who are patriotic, and who are frustrated with what they see.
36:45
Let's not forget that just with the recent polling that came out, most
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Hispanics that are already in this country want mass deportation of illegals. Again,
36:59
I live in Tucson, Arizona. This is a heavily Hispanic community. Our
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county is heavily Hispanics when you talk to Hispanics. Actually sit on a Hispanic
37:09
coalition called Ganamos, and you know, this is a kind of a bipartisan,
37:15
if you will, a group of people who get together and discuss things
37:20
and we do Hispanic outreach. My husband is a Spanish speaker, so he's
37:24
very invaluable, and we're reaching out to people who kind of think that they're
37:30
Democrats, but actually when you talk to them about what their values are and
37:36
their concerns about their children getting illegal drugs, and their concerns about illegal immigration
37:40
and crime, that they are really more conservative. It's just that there's a
37:46
lot of propaganda in our media, and there's propaganda from our politicians, and
37:53
there's propaganda in some of our you know, gosh, schools and churches and
37:59
things like that. Alex. That's why podcast I'm so much sure. I'm
38:02
sure that the left side of things don't ask you for a podcast or anything
38:07
like that. Right, they don't ask you to come on, right.
38:09
I mean, that's why, That's why what you do is so very important,
38:15
because you're out there, you're out there telling the truth, and there's
38:19
I just had a discussion with a girlfriend this morning while I was flogging white
38:22
dogs. I was talking to a friend on the phone and she and I
38:24
were just talking about people that are just good people, and they want good
38:30
things for their children and grandchildren, good things for their country, but they're
38:34
just not very well informed. And I think that every single person out there
38:39
needs to get better informed. Like we have an obligation to just get out
38:46
of your local you know, newspaper or your little msm app or whatever you
38:52
have on your phone and really search out some good podcasts and search out some
38:59
alternative media and find out what is happening in this country so that you can
39:06
make informed decisions, not just about your political leadership, but even where you're
39:10
going to travel and what you're going to do and what your rights are as
39:15
an American. We really need to be better consumers of information. Alex the
39:22
National Police Association. I encourage everybody to go to Nationalpolice dot org because we
39:25
have an incredible newsletter and we have a team of writers. They don't just
39:30
write a bunch of right wing garbage. They do a bunch of extraordinary research
39:37
and they talk about crime and law and order in this country. And we
39:44
also do a lot of cool stories, like cool stuff about dogs and things
39:47
like that, behind the scenes on how you know. And that's why I
39:52
love Blue Bloods because Blue blood showed the lives of police officers that should be
39:55
shown. I mean, that should be if they're going to roll in that
39:59
TV though, because the teacher doesn't feel like teaching for a day, roll
40:02
the TV and show Blue Bloods because that is a great information They talk about
40:07
community building, Sergeant Smith, Blue Bloods is a great way to start because
40:10
it just shows the daily life of a police officer and the family life of
40:15
it. Well, and that's the thing. You know, my husband also
40:17
a retired police officer. You know, we have four kids, and you
40:22
know we struggled with those day to day law enforcement issues of working shifts and
40:28
working on holidays and things like that. And plus you know, all of
40:31
the the all the sadness that police officers see. You know, every year,
40:38
police officers die two and a half more times by our own hand as
40:44
we do by felonious assaults. Our mental health is so at risk, and
40:50
and so you know that's one of the that's another reason why the National Police
40:53
Sosociation exists because we're trying to help the mental health of the law enforcement officers
41:00
because when you're you're already seeing the worst of the worst every day, but
41:05
then when you are vilified in the media and by politicians and things like that,
41:09
it really wears on you. That's why the badges are being turned into
41:15
the NYPD at record rates that no one's seen before, because it's wearing on
41:19
a lot of our men and women in blue, and it just seems like
41:23
you have to keep speaking this. Maybe this podcast do more to you know,
41:28
help install the bay the NPT so that we don't have all the shortages.
41:31
That's another problem too. The shortage is a big crisis around the country,
41:35
not just in New York. I'm sure it's a huge crisis. Nine
41:38
out of every ten police departments in this country is short staff. Because again,
41:45
you can't have all these people and all these organizations like our schools and
41:50
the media and this and that telling people that cops are bad, cops are
41:52
going to kill you for no reason, cops are racist. And yet we're
41:55
supposed to tell young people, oh, hey, when you turn twenty one,
41:58
why did you become And that's why, Alex, it's my great honor
42:05
to be able to stand up for my brothers and sisters in law enforcement,
42:10
and I'm so grateful for the you know, for the National Police Association,
42:15
who really stands tall for law enforcement like no other organization in this country.
42:22
Well, on that note, one of the biggest nights I could think of
42:24
that bridges community in the National Night Out and the police departments in National Night
42:30
Out. I'd love for you to come back in July to give us a
42:32
preview. Maybe just we go more in deep depth about what the National Police
42:36
Association does. We haven't done that thoroughly because we're so focused on the news,
42:40
right, Sergeant Smith, but we should do a deep dive on what
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you guys do and for more information on what on the NPA National Police Association.
42:47
You're absolutely right. That would be so much fun. We could talk
42:52
about the NPA and we could talk about National Night Out. I ran my
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agency's crime for engineer for eight years and National Night Out was one of the
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most It was like Christmas for crime prevention cops. So let's do that,
43:05
Alex, all right, I will reach back out about that. But one
43:07
last thought, a couple last thoughts. Actually, I can talk with you
43:12
for hours, Sergeant Smith. You've got a lot to talk about it I
43:15
love that everybody today is honoring Willie Mays. And I know it might seem
43:20
like a stretch stock baseball on a law enforcement podcast, But when you see
43:23
the politicians of today talking about the life and the values of Willie Mays,
43:29
don't you wish that they taught that even more on their followers, if you
43:34
will, than they do every day. I feel like it's a one to
43:36
day year that they talk about values and whatnot. I mean, the loss
43:38
of Willie Mays shouldn't just be a prop It should be a real thing that
43:43
people. His value should be something the people embody every day. Well,
43:46
Alex, let me tell you one thing. First of all, there's only
43:50
one baseball team in this country, and it's the Chicago Cups. But we
43:53
can talk about other teams. But I grew up as a as a little
43:59
kid watching Willie May's play, and the great thing about him was his humility
44:06
and his values. And that's what everybody's talking about today, right is what
44:09
a great guy he is. And yet when we look at our when we
44:13
look at our quote unquote sports heroes, now what do we see. We
44:17
see a lot of bad behavior, We see a lot of thuggery, and
44:21
things like that. You're absolutely right. We should uplift heroes sports heroes who
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are good, good people like Willy Mays was, and we should also uplift
44:32
everyone that we see that's highlighted, who makes good decisions about their life,
44:39
and stop holding up these these thugs who engage in bad behavior in every sport
44:47
in this country. Let's uphold the ones who show value. Let me go
44:52
this way. He played, I believe during the Civil rights you know,
44:54
all that era, and he never once kneeled and he never won set in
44:59
the locker room from the national anthem that I can think of, right,
45:01
I mean, that's not in the archives anywhere. No, he was proud
45:06
of being an American. You can go back and you can watch him sing
45:13
the national anthem at games, and you can you can you can read and
45:19
hear his interviews and how proud he was of America and the civil rights movement
45:25
that furthered his ability to play professional sports. I'm so glad we touched on
45:35
that because I thought you might have a few thoughts on that, because of
45:37
course, today's sports athletes kind of vilify the cops as we speak right now.
45:42
That's so happening, which is just it shouldn't be. But to wrap
45:45
everything up, where do we go from here? Is the ambassy fully through?
45:50
Can they challenge it? What do we see with all that? I
45:52
know you're talked about litigation earlier, but is this going to be in litigation
45:54
as well? Yeah, the amnesty is definitely going to be in litigation.
45:59
I think that you're going to see court case after court case after court case
46:02
to the point where it may not happen before the November election. So everybody
46:10
needs to watch carefully. But everybody also needs to get involved locally politically and
46:17
let your political leadership, not just in Congress, but locally as well.
46:23
Let them know that you don't support amnescy, you don't want DOCA people being
46:29
your cops, you don't want to get arrested as a citizen by a non
46:31
citizen, and that you want your political leaders to get it together and pay
46:37
attention to your issues and concerns, not issues and concerns of people in other
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countries that are coming here while breaking the law. Well, thank you so
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much for your time, Sergeant Betsy Branner Smith, National Police Association. I
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always love talking to you. We got to do this a little more often
46:54
than once or twice. You got a lot of insight to tap into as
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we go along here this year. Well, and I love talking to you
47:02
because you know you have your finger on the pulse of so much. I
47:07
appreciate your great questions, all right. That was Sergeant Betsy Branner Smith of
47:12
the National Police Association on the Alex Stare Guest Network.