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#213 - AmFest 2025’s Biggest Revelations: CIVIL WAR??? · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  What went down last week at AmFest, there were so many things,
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  revelations that came out, and it does not look good.
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  If you are in the conservative movement, I think the lines are being redrawn.
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  And everybody is kind of just staking their claim. Who are we going to go with?
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  Who are we going to ride and die with? Are we going to stick with Ben Shapiro, with Steve Bannon?
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  Or are we going to go with Tucker Carlson? There's a lot of options that we
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  can float out there, a lot of people that we can get behind.
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  And there's been a major disconnect and everybody is feeling like they,
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  who can we trust? Who is going to lead us into the promised land?
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  Who is going to continue to develop America so that it becomes more of a prosperous nation?
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  That it's going to stand for the forgotten men and women out there,
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  people that care about America, care about the bright future that we all want to happen.
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  Who is going to lead and take the mantle and run with it? There were a lot of
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  things that happened at AmFest that went down. and we're also going to discuss Erica Kirk.
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  There's no shortage of conspiracies going about and spiraling out of control about her.
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  And I think the leading promulgator of this mindset has been Candace Owens.
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  But where do you stand on Erica Kirk?
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  Was she involved, which to me, it just sounds distasteful and ugly and horrendous
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  to even bring up the thought that she was behind,
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  that she was involved with the conspiracy to kill Charlie Kirk,
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  if there was a conspiracy.
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  But that's where you have to land if you're going to go that route.
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  We're going to take a few, we're going to look at what Steve Bannon said at
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  AmFest, first of all, when he called out Ben Shapiro and said,
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  had some nasty things to say about him. Was Steve right?
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  Or do we have to pick a side? Take a look at this.
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  Now, Benji Shapiro sat up here last night. and he was all, you know,
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  it's all about the truth.
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  Ben, I've known you a long time, brother. You can't handle the truth.
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  Let's face it, Ben Shapiro is the farthest thing from MAGA. Let's be blunt.
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  He is a hardcore Never Trumper. He's a hardcore Never Trumper.
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  He's not too wrong about that. I think Ben Shapiro was very slow in coming to...
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  The side of Donald Trump, very slow out of all the people that are out there.
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  And a lot of people, I have to stick up and stand up for Donald Trump because
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  I have also been questioning a lot of things he's done.
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  But when we think of the alternative and what it would be if he had not taken
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  office, I, we would be going off a cliff. I believe, I think,
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  I think we would be going off a cliff and you wouldn't have the protection that you have right now.
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  You wouldn't have the freedom of speech, the freedom to be able to voice your
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  opinion, it would, we are just getting now used to censorship being a bad word.
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  And I think that has to do with the culture,
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  the influence of Donald Trump, because I know I've been ragging on Donald for,
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  for some time now and just saying a couple of things that I disagree with him
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  about, but really, I mean, he has opened up the ability to critique people,
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  the ability to say things that are not as becoming,
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  you know, to say things that are on your mind without fear of being just destroyed and demolished.
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  He's the one who paved that way. He's the one who's given people,
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  he reignited freedom of speech.
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  In the spring of 16, he tried to upend Breitbart.
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  He walked off the job, made a big deal about some incident in Mar-a-Lago with Corey Lewandowski.
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  He tried to turn it to Ted Cruz from Donald Trump because he hated Donald Trump.
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  In the general election, he barely supported Donald Trump.
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  Steve Bannon, he's the one who's he's the one who's pushing this idea that there
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  is going to be a 2028 Donald Trump,
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  that he is going things are being put in place so that Donald is going to run
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  again as president, which I mean, I'm not even I'm not going to go there right now.
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  Let's just take it a year at a time. This year has been pretty bad, I would say.
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  Overall, it has not been good. And I think everything went off the rails with
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  the whole Epstein fiasco.
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  And I know a lot of people do not like to hear about that. They don't want to
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  talk about that or acknowledge it, but that is what has just driven the whole
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  presidency in a mode that is not in its best interest.
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  Donald Trump, he was rolling. He had everything going, and then with Elon Musk
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  falling off and that whole feud that happened, that sparked and then just went
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  into the whole Epstein thing.
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  With Elon Musk just rolling out of the White House and saying,
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  hey, Donald Trump, he's on the Epstein list.
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  And then we didn't think we were going to get the Epstein list for a few months.
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  And Donald Trump tried to stop it the entire way, did not want it to come to
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  light. Now it's just coming out for everybody to see.
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  But those were major missteps by Donald Trump and the whole way he handled that.
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  The first sign of when President Trump gets sent back to Mar-a-Lago,
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  the very first individual that jumped on the Ron DeSantis train,
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  the Israel first train, was Ben Shapiro.
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  And those are the darkest days we had. In 21 and 22, you guys were there.
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  He's consistently been against Trump. And now that President Trump doesn't back
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  the greater Israel project. What is greater Israel?
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  It's not about Israel itself. It's about an expansionist Israel,
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  an imperial Israel, that Netanyahu and that crowd have thought up.
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  Lines are being drawn and it's, which side are you on with Israel?
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  And I never thought it would come to this, but that is the major talking point
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  that everybody is caring about.
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  If you're in the conservative movement, this is what's going to fracture and
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  just separate everyone.
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  People that care about Israel and whether they're running everything,
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  they're having influence in our government or not, that is becoming the orthodoxy test.
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  And where do you stand on that? And I think a lot, a lot of people care a lot,
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  a lot of people are obsessed with it, which I think people give,
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  they give Israel a lot more credit than, than they really deserve.
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  And I think that, I think we do that in a lot of areas at the end of the day,
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  a lot of conspiracies are just, we give government officials and people that
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  are in the higher ups a lot more credit than they deserve to pull something
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  off. And I'm guilty of this.
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  And I think now everybody's making Israel. They're the easy scapegoat that we
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  can throw everything on.
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  They're the reason everything's going bad. There's something to align and everybody
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  behind this battle cry of hate Israel.
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  But it's becoming more and more stark, whether you're going to go the Steve
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  Bannon route or the Ben Shapiro route.
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  Because I don't know if people are going to make up within the next year with
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  the midterms. it's good. It's,
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  Unless Donald Trump tries to coalesce everyone and really bring everyone together,
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  it does not look good whatsoever.
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  I did want to touch on Erica Kirk shortly about everything going on with her,
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  because all I am seeing is, and I had to show this, because what Candace Owens
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  started and ignited, people are running with it.
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  And now they're analyzing what she said when she spoke at AmFest.
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  Basically insinuating that she
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  is behind charlie's assassination because she
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  says once charlie was assassinated they're
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  parsing her every single word watching every
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  every look that she has on her face if she smiles people
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  you see you see people saying it's been
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  three after three months and you're that
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  happy you're you're you're you're you're really
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  thriving after three months but it's like is it
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  going to become three years when is
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  enough time for somebody to and i'm sure
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  she is suffering and she's grieving but she
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  she chose to take her mind so she didn't
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  just dwell in that in that darkness that she
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  had to go through and she wanted to come out
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  and and make some make something to
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  extend charlie's legacy and i think she charlie is
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  the one that probably would have wanted her to step in that role i'm
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  i'm i'm a little i go back and forth because i i don't
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  i i don't think it was the best idea but and
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  now that i say that i don't know i honestly don't know if charlie would have
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  like if but that's what she chose to do it's in the heat of the moment she quickly
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  decided to do that and she ran with it but i want to take a look at this this
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  is what people are going with and saying because she said once charlie was assassinated
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  check this out proved even more once he was assassinated.
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  Once he was assassinated, once he was assass...
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  Once he was assassinated, this indicates anticipation.
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  Once you finish dinner, you can have dessert. My entire speech has been wiped.
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  That is insane. And I know that this guy, he's taking the talking points of
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  Candace Owens and he's running with it and saying about Erica Kirk and just
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  throwing this on her, which seems awful to even think about.
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  Like, because she said once he was assassinated, that means she has blood on
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  her hands of her own husband.
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  It's so sick and twisted. I don't know how we got to this point,
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  but just to be a person that if you want to accuse someone like this and a widow
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  at that, I would be really careful about that.
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  I would be really think through what you're saying and what you're throwing
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  on her and what she's gone through.
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  I mean, if there is this massive conspiracy and she was behind it pulling the
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  levers somehow that's, I mean, that seems very out there, extremely out there.
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  So, but if, if she wasn't, and you're putting this on her.
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  It does not seem at all in the best interest of your own well-being as well
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  as anyone because you're just tarnishing her name and just hurting her as a
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  person. It doesn't seem right at all.
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