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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcomed Aaron Manky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of I
- 0:07Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is full
- 0:14Speaker 1: of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book,
- 0:18Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display,
- 0:22Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet
- 0:27Speaker 1: of Curiosities. What happens when we die? Everyone has their
- 0:39Speaker 1: own theory. According to some religions, if we're good people
- 0:42Speaker 1: on earth, then our souls are rewarded in heaven, or
- 0:45Speaker 1: if not, they're tormented down below. Others believe that our
- 0:48Speaker 1: souls are joined with a higher power in what is
- 0:51Speaker 1: known as eternal unity. In Buddhism, there is something called
- 0:54Speaker 1: the rebirth doctrine or reincarnation. A person may be reborn
- 0:58Speaker 1: into an existence at drew death based on how they
- 1:01Speaker 1: acted when they were still alive. As far as we know,
- 1:04Speaker 1: the Pollock family of Hexham, England, were not Buddhists, but
- 1:08Speaker 1: what we do know is that what happened to them
- 1:10Speaker 1: has confounded experts for decades. Jacqueline and Joanna were six
- 1:15Speaker 1: and eleven, respectively when the unthinkable happened. It was May
- 1:18Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty seven, and the girls were walking to
- 1:21Speaker 1: church with a friend of theirs. A woman driving under
- 1:24Speaker 1: the influence of drugs hit them, killing all three children.
- 1:27Speaker 1: It was a horrific tragedy and the girls parents, Florence
- 1:31Speaker 1: and John, were racked with grief. In the months following
- 1:34Speaker 1: the incident, Florence became pregnant, and something about the pregnancy
- 1:38Speaker 1: affected John somehow. He knew that his little girls were
- 1:41Speaker 1: not gone forever well. One year after the accident, Florence
- 1:45Speaker 1: gave birth to twin daughters, Jillian and Jennifer. Both babies
- 1:50Speaker 1: were almost identical save for differing sets of birth marks,
- 1:53Speaker 1: but to add to the strangeness of the birth marks themselves,
- 1:57Speaker 1: their locations were also highly unusual. Jennifer had a mark
- 2:01Speaker 1: on her left hip and a spot on her forehead,
- 2:04Speaker 1: which was eerily similar to her late sister Jacqueline, who
- 2:07Speaker 1: had a similar marking of her own on her hip
- 2:09Speaker 1: and a scar in the same spot on her forehead.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Three months after Jennifer and Jillian were born, the whole
- 2:15Speaker 1: family moved out of Hexham to nearby Whitley Bay. As
- 2:18Speaker 1: they were only a few months old when they moved,
- 2:20Speaker 1: they shouldn't have remembered anything about their time in Hexham,
- 2:24Speaker 1: and yet upon a return visit four years later, they
- 2:27Speaker 1: started exhibiting some odd behavior. For one, the twins knew
- 2:31Speaker 1: several landmarks in Hexham despite never having seen them before.
- 2:34Speaker 1: The school, for example, seemed very known to them, even
- 2:37Speaker 1: though they had never stepped foot inside it. There was
- 2:40Speaker 1: also a local playground they never been to, yet they
- 2:43Speaker 1: knew exactly how to get there. The only members of
- 2:45Speaker 1: the family who had known about that playground were their
- 2:48Speaker 1: parents and their older brothers, and of course, their late sisters,
- 2:51Speaker 1: Jacqueline and Joanna. Only a few years earlier, the girls
- 2:55Speaker 1: had started asking to play with certain toys. These had
- 2:58Speaker 1: been their late sisters to poise that their mother, Florence,
- 3:01Speaker 1: had packed away after their death. Jennifer and Jillian had
- 3:04Speaker 1: never seen them before, didn't even know they existed, but
- 3:07Speaker 1: they started asking to play with them by name, as
- 3:10Speaker 1: if they had done so all their lives. And the
- 3:12Speaker 1: more John and Florence watched their girls, the more similarities
- 3:16Speaker 1: they saw between them and the sisters they had never known.
- 3:19Speaker 1: They played the same games and loved the same foods.
- 3:22Speaker 1: John was convinced that Jacqueline and Joanna had come back
- 3:25Speaker 1: to them that they had been reincarnated as Jennifer and Jillian,
- 3:29Speaker 1: but Florence refused to listen, and then the twins started
- 3:33Speaker 1: talking about the car accident Florence once heard. The girls
- 3:37Speaker 1: re enacted the event, with Jillian holding Jennifer in her arms,
- 3:40Speaker 1: telling her the blood's coming out of your eyes. That's
- 3:44Speaker 1: where the car hit you. After that, Florence quickly changed
- 3:48Speaker 1: her mind. Jillian once told her sister that the birthmark
- 3:51Speaker 1: on her forehead was a result of Jennifer falling on
- 3:53Speaker 1: a bucket. That was actually how Jacqueline had received a
- 3:57Speaker 1: scar before she died. And perhaps the most bizarre behavior,
- 4:00Speaker 1: the twins exhibited their fear of cars. They hated being
- 4:04Speaker 1: around them, and once held on to each other at
- 4:07Speaker 1: the sound of a car starting, they screamed that it
- 4:09Speaker 1: was coming to get them. It wasn't after Jillian and
- 4:13Speaker 1: Jennifer turned five that the memories and similarities with their
- 4:16Speaker 1: deceased sisters began to disappear. As they continued to grow,
- 4:20Speaker 1: they developed personalities of our own, although Jillian did have
- 4:23Speaker 1: occasional instances where she remembered something Joanna had done years earlier.
- 4:28Speaker 1: The case of the Pollock Twins is widely considered to
- 4:31Speaker 1: be proof that reincarnation is real. Others have claimed that
- 4:35Speaker 1: the girls went through was simply the past lives overlapping
- 4:38Speaker 1: with the present time. Whatever the case, it was enough
- 4:41Speaker 1: to convince their parents that at least for a short while,
- 4:45Speaker 1: Joanna and Jacqueline had come back to them, perhaps to
- 4:48Speaker 1: say the goodbyes they never could, or to hug their
- 4:50Speaker 1: mom and dad again. Either way, it gives us hope
- 4:54Speaker 1: that the ones we love are never truly gone, and
- 4:57Speaker 1: if we're lucky, we might get to see them one
- 5:00Speaker 1: last time. June and Jennifer Gibbons were close, like really
- 5:18Speaker 1: really close. They were both born on April eleven of
- 5:21Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three to Gloria and Aubrey Gibbons, a West
- 5:25Speaker 1: Indian couple who noticed strange behavior from the girls early
- 5:29Speaker 1: on after they moved from Barbados to England. Shortly after
- 5:32Speaker 1: the twins birth, those behaviors started to grow more noticeable.
- 5:36Speaker 1: For one, they didn't speak, at least not to their
- 5:39Speaker 1: parents or anyone else. June and Jennifer were known as
- 5:43Speaker 1: elective mutes. They could speak, they just chose not to
- 5:47Speaker 1: unless they were talking to each other. They came up
- 5:49Speaker 1: with their own language based on a sped up version
- 5:52Speaker 1: of Beijing Creole that only they could understand. Their special
- 5:56Speaker 1: language also helps solidify their bond. The girls were in
- 5:59Speaker 1: separate r bowl One time, when they were teenagers, June
- 6:03Speaker 1: and Jennifer were split up and sent to different boarding schools.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Each twin immediately started pulling away from everyone else, classmates, teachers, administrators, everyone.
- 6:13Speaker 1: They eventually reached a catatonic states and were unable to
- 6:16Speaker 1: function until they were finally reunited. Their childhood was tough.
- 6:21Speaker 1: The girls and their three other siblings were the only
- 6:23Speaker 1: black children in their neighborhood. They were shunned at school,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and teachers often allowed them to leave before the bell
- 6:29Speaker 1: rings so that they could avoid being bullied on their
- 6:31Speaker 1: way home. Their lack of friendships with the other kids
- 6:35Speaker 1: only drove them closer together, especially June and Jennifer, who
- 6:39Speaker 1: only played with and spoke to one another in their bedroom.
- 6:42Speaker 1: They did everything together, much of it creative in nature.
- 6:45Speaker 1: The girls would often use their toys and dolls to
- 6:48Speaker 1: put on plays, which they recorded on tape for their
- 6:51Speaker 1: younger sister Rosie to play. They were also given diaries
- 6:54Speaker 1: one Christmas, which ignited a passion for writing within them.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Around nineteen seventy nine, June and Jennifer used a mail
- 7:02Speaker 1: order creative writing course to learn how to write short
- 7:04Speaker 1: stories and novels, becoming prolific authors early on in their lives,
- 7:08Speaker 1: but their lack of a connection to others influenced their
- 7:11Speaker 1: work in questionable ways. One book was titled Pepsicola Addict,
- 7:16Speaker 1: and the twins put the money they earned from their
- 7:18Speaker 1: unemployment together to have it published. It remains the only
- 7:22Speaker 1: publicly available work by either of the sisters, and although
- 7:25Speaker 1: it's no longer in print, copies are held within the
- 7:27Speaker 1: collection of five libraries all over the world. Jennifer's work
- 7:31Speaker 1: was similar, if not darker. Her novel The Pugilist told
- 7:35Speaker 1: the story of a doctor who used the heart from
- 7:37Speaker 1: the family dog to save the life of his son,
- 7:40Speaker 1: but the dog's spirit took over the child and got
- 7:43Speaker 1: revenge on the man who killed him. One of the
- 7:45Speaker 1: few things about their lives that followed a typical childhood
- 7:49Speaker 1: was the rebellious teenage phase for the twins that included
- 7:52Speaker 1: drinking and drugs and acts of petty theft. Eventually, those
- 7:55Speaker 1: crimes grew into vandalism and arson, resulting in the burning
- 7:59Speaker 1: down of attract shop. They almost torched a local technical
- 8:02Speaker 1: school as well, but were arrested and sent to Broadmoor
- 8:06Speaker 1: Hospital in Berkshire, England. That was a high security mental
- 8:09Speaker 1: facility where they lived for over ten years. June believed
- 8:13Speaker 1: that they were being punished for refusing to speak. She
- 8:15Speaker 1: was quoted as saying, juvenile delinquents get two years in prison.
- 8:19Speaker 1: We got twelve years of hell because we didn't speak.
- 8:22Speaker 1: She once wrote the Queen for a pardon, but it
- 8:25Speaker 1: never came. Sadly, the medication they were placed on, as
- 8:29Speaker 1: well as their time of confinement, affected them deeply. They
- 8:32Speaker 1: continued to write in their diaries, but their passion for
- 8:35Speaker 1: creative writing had gone. But they did become more social
- 8:38Speaker 1: as the twins grew more comfortable with life within the hospital.
- 8:41Speaker 1: They even joined the choir. But they also had a secret.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Unbeknownst to the hospital staff or anyone really, June and
- 8:49Speaker 1: Jennifer had made a pact with one another. If one
- 8:51Speaker 1: of them were to somehow die first, then the surviving
- 8:54Speaker 1: twin was to begin speaking and living her life as
- 8:57Speaker 1: normally as possible. It was a Roman It's an idea,
- 9:00Speaker 1: this notion that the surviving sister had to carry on
- 9:03Speaker 1: and succeed, but it was life in broad Moore that
- 9:07Speaker 1: turned that promise into reality. In March of n as
- 9:11Speaker 1: the twins were being transferred to a more relaxed facility
- 9:14Speaker 1: in Wales, Jennifer placed her head in her sister's lap
- 9:18Speaker 1: and fell asleep. When she failed to wake up, she
- 9:20Speaker 1: was rushed to the hospital, but sadly, she was pronounced dead.
- 9:24Speaker 1: The cause, they said, was an inflamed heart. There was
- 9:27Speaker 1: nothing in her system that could have caused it either.
- 9:30Speaker 1: It was almost as if she had given up on
- 9:32Speaker 1: her own life for the sake of her sister. June
- 9:36Speaker 1: believed that Jennifer's sacrifice had a cleansing effect on her,
- 9:40Speaker 1: and in a way it did. She left the hospital
- 9:43Speaker 1: system and moved into a place near her parents. She
- 9:45Speaker 1: also started giving interviews to newspapers and magazines about her
- 9:49Speaker 1: life growing up, and she became an active member of
- 9:52Speaker 1: her community. A journalist who met the girls while they
- 9:54Speaker 1: were incarcerated read their diaries. She determined that June and
- 9:58Speaker 1: Jennifer Gibbons wanted two things from life, fame and freedom,
- 10:03Speaker 1: but not freedom from the hospital. Freedom, they said from
- 10:07Speaker 1: each other. They loved one another, but their bond had
- 10:10Speaker 1: become a burden. Jennifer gave her sister the freedom she
- 10:13Speaker 1: craved and the fame. Well that happened anyway. The Silent Twins,
- 10:19Speaker 1: as they were called, became the subjects of numerous documentaries,
- 10:22Speaker 1: a play, songs, and even a feature film, and for
- 10:26Speaker 1: good reason, their story was quite unique. Throughout it all,
- 10:30Speaker 1: June and Jennifer Gibbons never shied away from who they
- 10:33Speaker 1: really were. Smart, resourceful and creative women with a bond
- 10:38Speaker 1: as deep as the ocean, and a relationship that was
- 10:42Speaker 1: more than a little curious. I hope you've enjoyed today's
- 10:49Speaker 1: guided tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. Subscribe for free
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- 10:55Speaker 1: visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. The show is created by
- 11:00Speaker 1: me Aaron Mankey in partnership with how Stuff Works. I
- 11:04Speaker 1: make another award winning show called Lore, which is a podcast,
- 11:08Speaker 1: book series, and television show, and you can learn all
- 11:11Speaker 1: about it over at the World of Lore dot com.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And until next time, stay curious. Yeah,