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Is Agatha All Along Episode Four A Better Musical Than Joker 2?!? (Review, Recap & Reactions) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 3: Yes, Rakwonda Maximov is the one that that's that's the one,
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  Speaker 3: He is back the Witches brew Master himself. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: without further ado, please reintroduce yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, thank you for having me. I'm about to be
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  Speaker 1: back on the show that I created. It's your boy,
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  Speaker 1: DJ Ben I mean aka smoking on that good green witch,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Hotter, grown age Warlock. The witch is Rody, It's
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  Speaker 1: me which is Sorcerer Supreme Clientele here in the spaceship tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent. I really love that smoking on that good green witch.
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  Speaker 1: Man because let me tell you, Aubrey Plasant any day, anytime.
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  Speaker 1: Longtime fan, that's all I'm saying. Longtime fan Forreer.
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  Speaker 2: So we're here.
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  Speaker 3: We're back to discuss all things agatho all along this
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  Speaker 3: time we are talking through episodes for what's that title
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  Speaker 3: this episode is?
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  Speaker 2: I know it's part of the witch Is ballad.
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  Speaker 5: Right. If I can't reach you, let my teach you.
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  Speaker 3: If I can't reach you, let my song teach you.
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  Speaker 3: And there was triple quad or tandras on that when
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  Speaker 3: you really connected to the Alice character and everything going
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  Speaker 3: on there and family and shit like that. But there
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  Speaker 3: was a lot going on, right, this is now the
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  Speaker 3: second trial of the Witches, right, is that the you're
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  Speaker 3: just throwing up the wolvesode ye, lots of wolves in
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  Speaker 3: this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Ben.
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  Speaker 3: When we were when Pushing I was last talking about this,
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  Speaker 3: basically we were lamenting at how poor Sharon aka missus Hart,
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  Speaker 3: how how she went down.
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  Speaker 2: It was bad for her, it was all bad.
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  Speaker 3: And this episode opens with her death or just her
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  Speaker 3: just being dead in general, and then.
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  Speaker 2: How Agatha is just like I I'll bury her. Yet
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  Speaker 2: I got to go like.
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  Speaker 5: I just want to.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why I'm mentioning this.
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  Speaker 3: Is because I have to give it up to Catherine
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  Speaker 3: Han the way she is fucking the delivering Agatha Harkness
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  Speaker 3: as a character and just yes to and the scenery, yes,
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  Speaker 3: just being this outlandish character.
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  Speaker 2: But also really giving you that.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of anti anti villain, anti hero type person that's like,
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  Speaker 3: in a one way, you could tell that she's like
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  Speaker 3: completely selfish, but also it's just like, but she she
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  Speaker 3: does have heart. It's like she's a walking contradiction in
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  Speaker 3: many different ways. And I just I just really really
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  Speaker 3: fuck with her as a character.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say that, y'all. I've been listening
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  Speaker 1: to the reviews and y'all definitely spent some time last week,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wondering about Shorty being dead or not, and like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, permanently dead, and they spent they did this
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  Speaker 1: one because like she was really trying to move on,
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  Speaker 1: but the whole show moved on from her pretty quickly
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 3: Like, but did y'all peep that they fucking buried her
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  Speaker 3: like they did her flowers? Like how just like how
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  Speaker 3: she does in her garden, they buried Missheart the same
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  Speaker 3: fucking was.
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  Speaker 1: That baby's breath that they put on her?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that was and they made a point to zooming
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  Speaker 3: on that, So I was like, what y'all trying to say?
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  Speaker 2: But it looked like baby's breath?
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  Speaker 1: Is there any reference for baby's breath?
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  Speaker 2: That Portia and making that face she must know something.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know nothing, Oh, I don't know nothing, but
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  Speaker 4: I like, I used to try to figure out the
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  Speaker 4: language of flowers.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of work because they do mean something.
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  Speaker 2: Everything means something.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing we've learned about this show a lot
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  Speaker 3: of it is they tell you right to your face
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  Speaker 3: what they're about to do, and everything has different meanings.
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  Speaker 3: But also I will say that this this the other
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  Speaker 3: episodes like it was like if you really wasn't pay attention,
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  Speaker 3: you could have missed it. This one was even more
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  Speaker 3: overt and a little bit corny in some ways. And
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  Speaker 3: I'll twain that later.
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  Speaker 2: But but stylistically, I love this so relically.
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  Speaker 3: I fucked with this episode a lot. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: about y'all, how y'all felt.
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  Speaker 4: Did you notice how Agatha was talking to somebody while
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  Speaker 4: they were burying.
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  Speaker 2: Sharon, Which who are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: Like it was like she was talking to the road,
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  Speaker 4: as if like it was like sentient, like there's someone
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  Speaker 4: for her to talk to. And I'm like, is she
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  Speaker 4: talking to the road, like is that like the road
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  Speaker 4: is sentient or is it like Mephisto's road and she's
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  Speaker 4: talking to Mephisto.
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  Speaker 3: As that's out her damn mind. Half the time, So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what made you what made you think that? Like,
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  Speaker 3: what did she say particularly that made you feel like
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  Speaker 3: she wasn't even talking to her own cove and she
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  Speaker 3: was talking to some and she was talking.
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  Speaker 4: Like she was like, why did you I didn't think
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  Speaker 4: you were going to take a non witch.
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  Speaker 1: And she also said I didn't think you had it
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  Speaker 1: in you, right, right?
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  Speaker 2: But she was looking at Sharon when she said that.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought she was talking to the road, you know,
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  Speaker 4: she was talking to someone not there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone.
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  Speaker 5: Have it in you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think you to kill to take shar
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  Speaker 1: But was she talking to Rio?
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  Speaker 5: Why would it be real?
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  Speaker 1: Because Rio also said I need those bodies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which we got to get into beause I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what she meant by that. I'm like, what the
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  Speaker 2: fuck are you talking about? And then should come in
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  Speaker 2: through the body? Like I just it was so first.
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  Speaker 3: Of all, First of all, first of all, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: this show intertwines, as we keep saying every week, it's
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  Speaker 3: why so much pop culture and references from other like
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  Speaker 3: witches and shows and movies, film, all this all everything.
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  Speaker 3: What isn't there like an old school like horror movie
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  Speaker 3: where like it's about people like a witch or some
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  Speaker 3: woman taking a body, like taking bodies and or being
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  Speaker 3: able to use dead bodies to like jump in and
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  Speaker 3: out of different realities or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's that's that I've seen something like that.
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  Speaker 5: It's not not what.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, but these are dead bodies, so that's all.
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, this is on some necromance or
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  Speaker 3: ship where you like. My whole point is that there
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of random references to movies and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm just like, what, which which one is it? Like,
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  Speaker 3: obviously Rio is like the horror version, right, She's like
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  Speaker 3: the what's the girl that was in the craft that
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  Speaker 3: ended up Nancy, the one that ended up being crazy.
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  Speaker 3: She's the Nancy of the group, right, And then all
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  Speaker 3: these other witches are are very reminiscent of other witches
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  Speaker 3: that you've seen in pop culture.
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  Speaker 1: And she also came out with the entrance like what's
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  Speaker 1: the joint with the tape, the ring, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of beatle juice, but also the ring when she came
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  Speaker 1: flipping out of the ground with that, you know, crawling
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  Speaker 1: out and the body like yeah, the frame rate on her,
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  Speaker 1: it's the same thing they were doing with that thing
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  Speaker 1: that came down the stairs looking for Oh yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they sped up that thing frame rate the same way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I will say that when I mentioned just this episode
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  Speaker 3: being really really the series, right, because it is like
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  Speaker 3: the last time you had like the stepper Stepford Wives
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  Speaker 3: type approach in the last episode, and now they went
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  Speaker 3: to like a seventies and I thought that was very fitting,
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  Speaker 3: especially for you, mister Purple Hayes yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's the full and for y'all
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  Speaker 2: that that don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Mister Benjamin has a book I'll call Jimmy Hendrix Purple Hayes.
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  Speaker 3: You can get it now at your local comic book
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  Speaker 3: shop or on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles and other fine
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  Speaker 3: goods fine places where you can find books and comic books.
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  Speaker 2: Is a graphic novel.
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  Speaker 3: But that being said, literally that aesthetic, that seventies aesthetic
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  Speaker 3: was used liberally throughout this episode. And you know, and
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  Speaker 3: and it's again and this is also shows you. This
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  Speaker 3: is a This shows also a child obviously it's a
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  Speaker 3: spin off as a child of Wanda Vision, right, the
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  Speaker 3: idea of stepping into different locations and having a full
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  Speaker 3: esthetic for that era, they stepped in a whole different
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  Speaker 3: house and they they and I guess this is gonna
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  Speaker 3: happen throughout this series. They're gonna step into a house
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  Speaker 3: or some trial and they're going to represent a new
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  Speaker 3: era maybe.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we saw the trailers where like they have
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  Speaker 4: like a like a nineties slash os like horrorhouse where
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  Speaker 4: they're playing like kie board and stuff like that, and
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  Speaker 4: then there's like the Wizard of Oz theme one and
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  Speaker 4: then the one scene I don't know, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: that in scenes with Agatha with the team and like.
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  Speaker 5: This like room the sterile room kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Mmm.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it seems quicker than we can eat a
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  Speaker 4: lot of different scenes, a lot of different sets.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, in my notes, this was
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  Speaker 1: like the worst Awesome Powers pad ever. But I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure like what type of seventies horror movie they were
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  Speaker 1: referencing here, if any. I mean, I know, like seventies horror,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know any joints that had like a
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  Speaker 1: band in it or anything like that. Also, you know,
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  Speaker 1: gave a bit of a Spooby Doo vibe.
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  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, very Scooby Doo in the
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  Speaker 3: band and you're running around trying to solve a mystery,
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  Speaker 3: and then it's just like jam session in the middle history,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, it's very random.
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  Speaker 1: And then like you know, you said, as you said
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  Speaker 1: the author of Jimmy Hendrix Purple Hazing Stores, now I was.
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  Speaker 1: I loved it, you know, I loved that part of it.
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  Speaker 1: I loved the whole idea of music saving them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a big thing of the book. And I also
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  Speaker 1: love the references and the shout outs to bands like
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  Speaker 1: Heart and Super Tramp and Aqua Lung and those like
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  Speaker 1: seventies bands that were the power ballads before the eighties
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  Speaker 1: hair bands with power power ballads and all that. And
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  Speaker 1: I just love a good power ballad. And that was
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  Speaker 1: a great one in the middle of this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Porsches.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just like Noddy. I feel like the seventies the
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  Speaker 4: closest like seventies war. I've got two in my brain.
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  Speaker 5: I forget. I mean, this might be the wrong name
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  Speaker 5: for it, real quick.
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  Speaker 4: Neither Roxbury or whatever, the one with Chris Him's work
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  Speaker 4: where they're like redoing like the Manson Murders or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Ship oh not Night at the Rocksbury. But with Chris
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  Speaker 1: Raham's birth, I'll just talk about this movie all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you about it. Yeah, Bad Royal, Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I know that's rock, but yes, yes, that was the
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  Speaker 4: closest to me, like set wise, it seem like it
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  Speaker 4: gave me like that like seventies like hotel ish.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, that's what he gave me, the closest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I love the camera work the whole, like old school,
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, somebody looks and looks the left real
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  Speaker 2: fast and they zoom in on them, and then there's
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  Speaker 2: something wild happens that they zoom into the right and
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  Speaker 2: zoom into the left.
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  Speaker 1: Like swimming shots when the cameras like yeah, like ghosting
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  Speaker 1: through the air things and stuff like that. Yeah, straight
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  Speaker 1: seventies ship Like yeah, I loved all.
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  Speaker 3: That absolute absolutely And I had peeped to port you
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  Speaker 3: last week. How like all the trials at least for now,
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  Speaker 3: like they match up with the song obviously, And there's
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  Speaker 3: a point of song that they mentioned water, earth and
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  Speaker 3: fire right, so we're gonna see those elements.
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  Speaker 2: And also I mentioned that like these are the things
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  Speaker 2: that could.
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  Speaker 3: Kill witches, right, like you can drown a witch to
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  Speaker 3: burn a witch the earth. I guess of purse you said,
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  Speaker 3: maybe could stone a witch. So you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: nigga's gonna get buried alive.
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  Speaker 1: Type shit, so you'll know that stoning actually wasn't throwing
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  Speaker 1: stones at somebody attached, laying them down on the ground
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  Speaker 1: and covering them with a board and then putting stones
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  Speaker 1: on that board until they are crush slowly. I learned
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  Speaker 1: something new every day. Yep, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm laughing because that is horrific.
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  Speaker 1: And also the witch thing was what I'm sure portion
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  Speaker 1: Thos is too right. It's if you drowned, you weren't
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  Speaker 1: a witch.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you weren't a witch with you has a day,
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  Speaker 2: But if.
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  Speaker 1: You floated, you were a witched. So we're gonna cook you.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I forgot to throw my other a ka
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: to sell Salem seven one three shout outs to h A.
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  Speaker 2: I like that, I like that.
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah man, So this this next trial was all about
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  Speaker 3: fire and getting.
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  Speaker 2: Burnt to a fucking crisp and.
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  Speaker 6: Really, okay on that notion, all right, because like I
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  Speaker 6: have not been here, I know there's been one thing
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  Speaker 6: I gotta say is every time y'all are like, well,
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  Speaker 6: Ben was here, he knowed from the comics.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting at home like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know shit. We were so sure, we weren't
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  Speaker 2: just like, oh, Ben know this shit, We're gonna wake them,
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  Speaker 2: like we can't wait to ask him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm literally sitting at home listening, like I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck. I don't know nothing about No Nicholas
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  Speaker 1: scratch right. I know Agatha Hartness and I noticed Salem
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  Speaker 1: seven in the comics, and they actually got deaded by
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  Speaker 1: Wanda Soda, and I think she uses that magic to
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  Speaker 1: create her babies in part, until it's later revealed by
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  Speaker 1: another writer that her babies were pieces of Mephisto in
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  Speaker 1: the middle and a bit of her imagination.
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  Speaker 3: Comebin, Yes, yes, but definitely because I remember reading that combination.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a piece of Miss Cisto. Yeah, through another character,
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  Speaker 1: Master Pandemonium is that character. But yeah, that's whatever. But anyway, No,
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  Speaker 1: I do not know much more about the Salem seven
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  Speaker 1: other than they were scrubs in the comics who got
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  Speaker 1: eliminated by Wanda and pretty much one issue. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know Nicholas Scratched at all. That was my first
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  Speaker 1: revelation when I had to go Google with it as well,
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  Speaker 1: that he is the son of Agatha Hardness. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know about that. I know, Nicholas scratched the name being
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  Speaker 1: the name for the devil. Old Nick Stratch is like,
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  Speaker 1: that's a AKA for the devil, you know, from long time.
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  Speaker 1: I've always known, you know, So I didn't know that
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  Speaker 1: they were using that name for Agatha's son and the comics, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that makes that being said, now let's get to the
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  Speaker 1: big one. And I know this is probably one of
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  Speaker 1: the portions mysteries, and everyone's mystery is the team, right.
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  Speaker 1: I first thought, like everyone else, that he was Wicking,
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  Speaker 1: Starlotte Witch's son. He definitely resembles him. His clothing resembles him,
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  Speaker 1: the hair, everything resemble this nigga down to tea. Even
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Wicked in the comics first shows up
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  Speaker 1: and doesn't really have a memory or has like a
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  Speaker 1: fake life, you know, that's not really his life. And
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he has a boyfriend, which y'all mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff ties into Wicked. I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: so much anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that would be too obvious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just wouldn't be Agatha's story, and that
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  Speaker 1: site goes back to you know, when we talk about storytelling,
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't like make sense to introduce Wicked in Agatha's.
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  Speaker 2: Story, right, That's what it's about.
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  Speaker 1: Unless Charlotte, which is there, you know, and she's not
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  Speaker 1: there and she ain't gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: Here, so she's there in spirit. Every other fucking easter
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  Speaker 3: egg I see is her name?
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  Speaker 1: That's the other thing is that her dead at the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: crushed by a great weight, orange haired woman. Is that
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  Speaker 1: his lock of hair? You know? That's the other thing.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of hints that that is
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Wanda at the beginning, because Wanda was crushed by a
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: great way. Yeah, returns the dark hold return with her death.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Literally every episode they have referenced Wanda. They even every
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: single episode have referenced her in something someone drinking the record.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: When Alice was putting the record back together, one of
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: the there was like four or five songs on the record,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: and one of the songs was Red Haired Woman.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: So the first one was Mary Mary, then Red Haired Woman,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: then Cinnamon in stage.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Next one is flick of the Wrist and then swan
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: song mmm.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So and again this could be references to what exactly
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: happened the episode, but also, as mentioned, they've been talking
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: about Wanda non fucking stop this whole time.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so there's but then and then the Okay,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: but the thing that really threw me off about the
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: teen in this episode that I want to ask you
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: all about is I feel like that Negro is faking
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: being cursed. He's the only one who doesn't burn. He
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: gets thrown through a window, and that's how he gets hurt.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Everyone else burns and everyone else has straw on their
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: shoulder that he never shows once and he's like, oh,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: we're all part of the same crew, right, look at us,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: all curse together.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Walk out my hands because I thought you stop.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I thought you was gonna say he was faking, being
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: like naive and not knowing what's all that too.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, That's how I'm starting to feel.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: He's the nigga faith being cursed. So the nigga's faking everything,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you know, like the nigga no schedule. He's not faking
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and mean in the house, everyone else burns in that
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: step for him, he gets thrown through a window. There's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the streaky noises whatever, but you know that could be
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: faith as well, and it's the fact that he gets
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: thrown through the window and then he's like, oh, we're
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: all cursed too. And then he gets cut and he's.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, he's the only one to cut, not it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: And that could be exactly. That could go two ways.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: So one what we're saying now, which is this nigga?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Whose nigga is this? Because he could be faking. Let's
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: be honest with you.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It's giving. It's giving.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I'm acting naive and I'm not because you know, he
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: keeps asking the right questions to each person, you know
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: what I mean, especially with Aghla. You peeped it last
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: time for a show when you said, like the things
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: he was asking Alice, you know, he seems to have
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: an affinity specifically for.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: The WU lady, right like, oh, what's that tattoo? About?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Like he keeps seemingly like gathering information and it's more
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: than Jessa, I'm a curious teen.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Is it's giving. I'm doing something sorependously in my head.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I could be very suspicious as well, but I just
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I'm getting this vibe. No.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: But the thing is is not You're not being suspicious
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't even ask her what the tattoo. I mean,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: he asked her about the tattoo, but he already knows
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: what the tattoo is about. He tells her what the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: tattoo is about. This is true, He's already And then
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: like even in this episode when they're casting the spelling Latin,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: he's sitting there studying everything they do. He's always watching, peeping.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: He's either gathering information or he already knows it, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I just don't trust, Like this was the big episode
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: where I really stop trusting him, and around I'm like, nah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: because the central all that's doing is preventing him from
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: telling them who he is, right, It's not doing anything
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: else to him. So and also like this, she said, Okay,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: so what if Agatha was the one who put it
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: on him because she knows who he is but doesn't
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: want to know.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Who he is, right, And she wouldn't know because it
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: makes you not be able to That's why.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: She would use it, because she says it's aggravating. But
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: what if somebody needed to not know who somebody was right?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: That would lean toward it being her son. But what
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: her name says, that's not your.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Right, which could be a.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Lie, another lie, another lie, but Agatha seems to accept
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: its truth, right.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: But also what does she mean by that when she
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: said that that boy is not yours? Yeah, you can
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: say the obvious, which is okay, you could be saying
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: that's not your son. But also Agatha has just taken
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: ownership of the boy, so so real could just be
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: saying it in that way like that's that's not your nigga,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: like if I want his body, I'm gonna take it
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: next time type stuff.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Because she she was fucking said elevating when she was
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: looking at his body, like when he was looking like
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: he was gonna die.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: She was just like getting ready to jump on that nigga, and.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Agoza was just like, no, please, not yet, you know
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Like it's Portia, you got some tea.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I just my theories are.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: He's a fisto or he's an agent of a fisto
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: as Jin alluded to you.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I think Gen is our uh canary in the covine.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I think Gin is gonna it's because like Jin consistently
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: brings up the issues of the coven, Like right at
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the beginning of the episode, she's like, okay, quick rundown
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: this is it?
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: This is it? This is it? What are we doing?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: And I think her role in the story is like
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: it makes she that makes her kind of like.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: A nuicence.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I guess if you're like annoyed by that, but like
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: to me, it's like she's the one person in the
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: space that's like questioning Agatha, like consistently about like trying
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: to keep her on the coven track, whereas everyone else's
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: real like antagonizing Agatha and Lilia. Even though she's like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I got my eyes on you, I know which, I'm
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: not going to forget what you said. Lilia be having
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: her moment Lily Alice is like so consumed by everything else.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: So I honestly feel like the team to be I
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: don't think I get to put the Sigel out of
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: I think there's something about that that would be too convenient.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: I don't think it was Agatha.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I could be wrong, though that's true.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I feel like he has a notebook. I planted this.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: He has a notebook that he carries around with him
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: that's strong enough where the road to feel it like
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: it's his talisman, so it never removes it from He
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: always has that notebook on him, right, how did he
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: get the notebook?
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Whose notes?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Like, like, where are these notes coming from?
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: And I think.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: What I what I think is happening when he's questioning people.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I think he's endearing himself to people. I think he's
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: trying to make sure that he has them like feeling
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: a way towards him. And that's why I suspect him
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: for being tied to a piston, because I'm like, who
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: would gain the most h from having witches? I mean,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: it could be it could be Agatha though, like if
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: you're like, if Agatha is her, because that was the
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: thing that they say at the beginning, right, is like
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: the debate between whether the song says coven two or
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: coven true, and Agatha is like, well to like basically
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I get to say, like two of us are going
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: to make it at the end of this or whatever.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: And so that's how I get the feels if she did,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: if she is the one who set up the boy
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: to come find her and get her out of the
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: spell and like put a sigilau and whatever, she's like
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: endear him to the rest of the coven so they
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: make sure he lives.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: So these are the Covin two that comes out as being.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Him got it, which couldn't make sense.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: That's the only way I could see that being Agatha.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: But I really just don't think it's Agatha. I feel
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: like that's too convenient of a like story wrap up
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: to be Agatha all along once again, Like I don't.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I don't feel like that's a good like story thing.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But I could be wrong, right, and then it'd be
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: because okay, like that does raise a question, like you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: said that she put this on If she did put
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it on him, she would have had to put it
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: on him before Wanda, before did the spell to her,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Like she did this as a fail safe, right, just
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in case things went bad with Wanda.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: And he did say to Alice, because Alice was like.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Something this half bad thing bad happened, like that happens
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: to Hersary thirteen, and he said something bad hasse will
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: happened to me when I was thirteen and he was
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: thirteen three years ago when Wanda took over Westcuew.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: So it could be that when he was thirteen.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Ageta put the sitel on him, him up to him
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: away from his family so he would be the feel
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: safe for whatever.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Remember, he got absorbed into the hects. But then the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: hexts is put onto Agatha, so there's a possibility there.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: I like it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: What I found funny was when they were argument about
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: the lyrics. It sounded like the age old Lloyd argument.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And she's saying five two are fine? Two, Like that's
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: all I was thinking about what they would try to
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: figure it out.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: She's fine.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know who this nigga is, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I'm suspicious I I And also Agatha is like you,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: she loves this little boy, like you can tell them,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: despite all of her her ways, right she like you
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: saw how she panicked the fuck out when at the
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: end when she thought he was gonna die, right Like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: she was like, y'all need to do something, dude, Like
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: you've never seen her care, at least outwardly about anybody, right,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: that's not herself. And then here he comes with this shit.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: So he's important to her? Why would she be important?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Why what else would Agatha care about?
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And then it's also she turned so
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: cold to him when he asked her what happened to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: her son? And that's another one, Like he waits up
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: from near death and his immediate thought is like what
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: happened to your son? Right, like it's just he.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Is so false? That was the question.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, that was like this man is not valid because
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: as soon as he said that, I said, wait a minute,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: that was what was on your mind after like the
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: last time your eyes was open, you passed out because
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you had a shard of glass in your body, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: the first thing you said is well, what happened to
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: your son?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Like these random fucking questions is irritating me.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: That's part of the reason why I think he said
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: still and he's not an Agatha felt safe because.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But why Mephisto? That's my question?
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Jen said it? And now why jas the canary in
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: the coal mine? If she's the one he's asking the
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: real questions?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I remember the Mephisto reference, but what was she saying there?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: She all she literally said was you you know you
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: could be an agent of Mephisto. That's all she said.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: That was the one and only reference. And of course
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: no one really unless you're comming with you don't know
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: who the Fisto is or why how he even plays
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: into this, which is why Ben was like, what.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Is if it was Meissa, what what would be gained?
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: My thing? So this is what I'm saying.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: So if his whole thing is that he's endearing everyone
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: in the coveent there, the first that he's endearing the
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: most is Agatha.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah what I don't know.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: But fss relationship to Agatha? But I know there's one
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: that exists, right, So that's my question is like, is
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: them's this bait? Is the team in the road bait
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: to reel in the big fish, which is Agatha for
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: some reason, I don't all.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Right, I don't know of their exact relation either. Like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: when it was a field that Mephisto had the relation
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to Starlotte Witch, you know, it kind of began and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: ended there like Mephisto, you know, took the baby's back
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and that was the end of it in Strala, which
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: went nuts after that. You know, it was bad. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't really know if he ever had anything to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: do with Agatha. But in the comics in general, Mephisto's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: whole thing is just like the Devil and most popular
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: lore of him wanting souls and the period of soul,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the better or the soul, you know, and that's pretty
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: much his whole game in the comics. You know, up
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: as far as I know, I don't know what they've
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: done with him more recently or any of that. But
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: you know, for most of the time, Mephisto is just
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like an alternate to Marvel saying the devil. That was
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: pretty much the reason, you know, why Mefisto existed, got it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But then they always say that he is not the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: devil or not the you know, because now there's a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: thing called the one below all, which is like the evil,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you know, that below everything in Marvel, and so that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: is more representative of what we would think of as
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the devil, gotcha. Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I did like how this episode, like again, tied into
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the family history of Alice and dug deeper into that
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that whole thing, Like we find out the truth about
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: her mom, Like her mom wasn't her mom was lost
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to a road, right, you know, you know the road,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: like d.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Road, you know, like the road, the road.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: But like y'all keep saying that, but I ain't say that,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: ya said, but you know, to a certain point of view, lie, right, Yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: her mom And then of course the whole from the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: beginning them talking about fire right, you know, her mom
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: dying in a hotel fire right, and again stuff that kills,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: which is she like that? And then I thought what
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I thought was so.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And really amazing was when we found out when Agatha
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: rightly realized that that song, that ballad or this version
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: of the ballot is actually a protection spell and goes
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: back to what you said earlier been about like them
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: incorporating music and the magic of music. And we see
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: we see that in your book Purple Hayes out in
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: stores now, and we also see that when you We've
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: seen that also even in Marvel, right, like for example,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you use multiverse of madness when they did that fire
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: scene with Doctor Strange using the musical notes and like
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: throwing it like music as I mean, that's one, okay,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: that's one very like physical manifestation of it, but also
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: justin in culture and a lot of different things music,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: as you know, music imbues a lot of energy and
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: different emotion and it litsis different things out of different
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: people for different reasons. Right, music is a form of magic,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: at least in my head it is. So I really
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: like them tying to that together in this episode, I.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Wrote down what just like like Lorda's Ballad is like
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: a what best selling like always playing kind of ballad
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: like everyone likes listening to it, So I kind of
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: was like, that's basically an earword, and I'm like, what
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: is an earword but a spell that's generating money?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: M M straight up, It's been said before, that's right, Yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Like what are what are songs? But you know mantras
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that are repeated that you know, elicit emotion or inspire
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: things and create things out of nothing, which is songs.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Songs have hooks that are repeated, right, the choruses that
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: are repeated over and over, Like that's how and you
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: were and that's how it becomes. And then just the
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: fact that when Agaa was like, you know, this song
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: was so damn popular at literally to this day, at
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: any given moment, somebody's playing that song and I'm.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Like, it can be the lady.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: The lady's older, so I'm just like she been like literally,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: that's how fucking popular that song is.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: And that means as song as protecting people all around
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the world all around.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Again, very very Jimmy Hendricks related to me as well,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: but music related, very music related. Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like a Stranger Themes one too, like you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, with Shorty playing running up that hill over
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and over again, you know, and using that to protect
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: ourselves from the.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Oh God, upside down monster.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, cam Ver's damn name. He had a name in
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the last one, but came.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Or whatever whatever the niggas name is. Decca had drawn.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But there's but then he had a name, Oh God,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and it's a dungeons and dragon's name. Vena Vecna is
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a dude's name that was trying to get them in
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the last season.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, tell me that you would just change your things,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: because earlier when you were like a tai and I
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: like cared more about share that anyone else did.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: I thought about poor old oh.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Justice Justice for whatever her name, I forget. Yeah, hey,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: so whatever her day was, damn for her. Look, it's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: been a long time.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Multiple seasons.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a long time and never came back either.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Just going back to the catches a little bit.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I did appreciate how like, no matter what the fuck's
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: going on, people are staying truting themselves, Like Jennifer Kale,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: like like standing in that fucking circle, Like even after
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Man's got thrown through the glass, she was still standing
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: the circle talking about he.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: All right, and that's that's Jennifer Kale.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: That Jennifer Keale.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's white in the comics.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Oh see, this is why we need you here. We
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: didn't know that.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know, I didn't know that was
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: her last name. But yeah, I'm pretty sure Jennifer Kal
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: is a sorceress or something in the comics and she's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a white woman. Pretty sure.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I thought that was very real when she was like,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: can you come draw that circle over?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: It was very it was very like real, like from
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: a black perspective. I'm like, I'm gonna ask if you'll
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: carry from over here. I'm not fucking going to where
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: y'all niggas is that there was a curse on us?
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Did y'all did y'all care about how the curse was
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: like manifested like whatever that the demon.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Demon thing was Jennifer Kelly blond hair, blew out and everything.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Damn wait, the manifestation the demon thing.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: What did you think about how they showed what the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: curse looked like?
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: That's why that's when I was like, oh, this is
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: kind of corny, but it was like seventies joke.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Core, like what's what it gave me? It gave me
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: like like I'm not taking that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Seriously, but you're not that by the fact of the
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: matter is, it doesn't matter if I take it seriously
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: because Alice, when Alice's family's burdened for generations.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: So if I just matter, if I don't think seriously you.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Really serious, you have an unserious curse. Like this ship
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: is burning niggas and it's like I can.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: S girl, but okay, like do what you're gonna do.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: It was was just hilarious because of like you were
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: talking about all those zoom ins, because that's when they're
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: zooming in on the demon and the like, Yeah, okay,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: so that was like you said, borshit. That was straight
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: up seventies though, Like I've never watched all of Texas
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Chainsaw Massacre, but I'm sure i'd laugh at most of it,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you know if I watch it now, because I laugh
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: at most of them joints, Like when I watch them now,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: like all the Friday at thirteens from the seventies are
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: just you know, hilarious.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Eighties.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I think that was actually eighties.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: We I will say that seventies seventies is Scooby Doo.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: Scoob Do seventies, right, Yeah, this was Scooby Doo. Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: One of the things I wanted to mention is like
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: we we really got to watch what the fuck Lilya,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Lillian whatever her name is, what she's saying, because she
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: keeps saying mad She obviously she's she's doing some foresight there,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: but she's saying mad ship that is going on in
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: the radar that I'm sure of remissing something very specific
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: that she's expressing, Like for example, when she has her
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: moments when she goes in and out and they even
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: asking where the fuck do you go? Like, you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: like for every few seconds, she's just yelling out shit
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: and then doesn't even remember saying it. What's her whole name, Casilagro,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: She's She's Italian, right, She's.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yea is the is a wizard too? Yes, yeah, he's
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a wizard.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: So she's I think it's actually Caldera is her actual
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: last name in the show, but if you look it up,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: she's tied to the Book of Caliostro.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, yep, yep, is like a wizard from before
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Marvel that name because uh, they use that and spawn
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the comics as a wizard there, and I think it
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: goes from you know, for both of them.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: And I told if I looked it up, I told
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: you that, like it's he That's the book that they
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: had right in multi Verse and Madness, the glittery one
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: that they kept trying to catch, the opposite of the
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: dark hold is the Book of Calistro.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: No?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: The Book of Ashanti Vishanti book got a book to apparently,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: it's what they were saying. Yeah, definitely has a book.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: And I want to say there's a character in the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Defenders comic book that's related to Caliostro, but I'm not
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent I'm sure of that. But cal Dara,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: that's another name.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Says she has a history with doctor Strange and Baron Mortal.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah cal Daro, Yeah, yeah, I knew that one too. Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Lilith though, is it Lilith, Lila Lilia? Okay, because Lilith
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: is another character?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Little of this, ain't Litla is just another form of
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: the devil, like the female.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah in Marvel Vampire woman like who's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I can't remember who Lila says exactly, but yeah, fucking
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Jennifer kale Man, I ain't thought it's all this random
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Marvel shit that just be in my head. But yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: she's a blue eyed, white woman who dresses in a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: metal bikini.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, forget that, you know what I mean. Lilia is
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: known as the Witch Queen in the comics yep, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: she hydnotizes Doctor Strange one time she do.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: She's the grandmother of Werewolf by Night.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Oh jack Oh.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Lilia's coven excuse me has connections including Maria Russov. So
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: she has a coven with the mother of Werewolf by Night.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: She reguards it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of shit going on with this lady.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that she is the key to
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of the answers to the mysteries that you're
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Borsha, I enjoy that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Her whole thing, like whenever she's whatever, she's part of
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: the conversation present. Her whole thing is that she got
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: beef with all the ways that witches have persecuted. And yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: it sounds like she just like literally remembers she was there,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: she lived it, and she's like, I let me tell
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: you how I got deep of vampire And you're like, okay,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: all right.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: She was showing her vampire by Yeah, like she she
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: had a she had a very visual reaction when she
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: saw the picture of the witch and the stocks right
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: she saw her. She she had that one single loan
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: tear like as you said, if she was remembers being
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: there and how that felt.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: That was all of them too. That was one of them, Jennifer.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: You know, stocks, burning, drowning, they had all the classic
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: ways they dealt.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: With mm hmm.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: All of them was in there. So we gotta we
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: gotta really pay attention to her. And then when she
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: said when she said, she said when they were trying
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: to save teens, she said the three of swords, and
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I looked that up because I don't know about tarot stuff,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: and that that car represents a period of deep emotional pain,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: heartbreaking sorrow.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: So I was like, are you just referring to what's
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: happening in front of us or something else?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I thought she was saying, because she was saying three
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: or swords in Latin is what Jennifer Kle was speaking.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Did she say that I didn't know what she was saying.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I know Latin, but I don't
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: know like that you know where I can. I had
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to read it to know it, but i'd have to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: see it.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: But she was.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Speaking Latin and she was repeating the phrase, so I
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: thought she was saying that, you know, I thought she
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: was translating for the audience.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, could be too.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who the fuck knows, well, the internet will in
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: like ten seconds. Of course, every other Latin phrase that's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: been on the it's been on the show.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: So I like that, like because then you know, it
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: makes it even more apparent what the fuck is going on?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like teen and one when he cast a spell
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: on when he first woke her up, he was saying
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: something about like wake up to just like beat down
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: here pretty much was what he was saying, and Latin.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I like hearing all of them casting spell like even
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Alice when she was drawing the circle around people and
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: she real quick Like the way my thing is, these
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: niggas is very skilled, right, Like yeah, they may be
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: down bad, but these but don't get it twisted. These
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: women got power right, and they really know their ship.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: It's just that they have to be kind of thrust
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: into literally in the fire before like they're really act
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: and really express how strong they are, just like how
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: how Jennifer saved fucking team, like for you to sit.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: There like nigga, what do I need moonlight and water? What?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Yep, I'm talking.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: About the Latin that Alice said that like I can't
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: I can't do that that I am not like she
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: said in Latin expelling Pardo, but like as a which
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: melly person, you can't help it be like silly arms girl.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sound very Harry Potter than me. Yeah, very
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: One of the things I didn't want to touch on
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Portia because you put you brought it up last time
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: was that relationship between Rio and Agatha. Is Portia clock
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: that they had a relationship, They must have had some
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: type of romantic relationship.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was from day one.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I was walking mad, you know, because it's like deep seated.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: It's more than just hate, right, Like it is that
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: love hate situation.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: It feels like it's a big manipulation. They wouldn't manipulating
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: the fun out each other in this episode.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: How much is Aget that put it in because like
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: that's my question. It's like Rio seems to have all
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: the upper all the cards, Like I guess that could
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: like throw t in tap, but for the most part,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Rio's got all the like all the big cards in
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: their relationship.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Riel's definitely their aggressor. Real is the real to.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Your point, I think she she has the upper hand
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: in many ways, but she has a soft spot for
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Agatha because like things that she would just do regardless,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: you know, of whoever was there, and don't care, like
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: she is holding off right, She's just like she was right.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, she was ready to take that little
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: boy's body, and Agatha was just like no, and she
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: was like, well, since Agatha's you know, she was looking
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: at her like I'll give you this, you know, when
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Agatha is like please, don't you know? When Ala is
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: basically trying to save everybody else in some ways, she's
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: trying to save other people. Rio is actually listening to
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: her in some ways. So I feel like they're both
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: manipulating the fuck out of each other.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: She also says that she's dull green Witch. She's dum yeah, but.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: She killed off all the other green witches in order
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: to be the the green Witch.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Like to me, she don't.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: But and what exactly happened with their relationship? She mentioned,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: you know, Rio mentioned that oh homegirl's my scar like
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I loved her and I had to. She did something
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: to her that she had to do because it was
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: her job, and as a result, she hurt Agatha.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: I guess it's I'm getting the city.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I think she's dead at her son. She has something
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: to do with her son.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Definitely have something to do with it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Why she makes it a point to say to Agitha,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: that's not that's not your son, or that's not your
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: boy or whatever.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: She islating the crap you, saying all the things that
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: she doesn't be painful.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: It's so what's her endgame though?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Like she she her whole day is like she was like,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: I am going to sit here and enjoy your destructure.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: She's like, I'm calling the Salem seven. This is gonna
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: be great.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: And then Agatha was like, well, at least let me
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: get my powers back first.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: That liter'll be fun. And then Rio is like, okay,
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: I cat with the mouse. I've enjoyed being able to
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: have fun before I trap you and bite you. That's
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: gonna be fun.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And then in this episode she's like, you know, I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: want to watch you do what you do best, kill witches.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: And then I get the bodies, so like, what the
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: fuck was they on last time, like, was they on
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: the road together?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Was they the two that made it out? Remember? I said,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: they said who made it out with you? She said one?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Was it real? What else?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: It sounds like, sounds like something happened the same way
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: before and real just waiting to clean up the pieces
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: like it just it's too convenient and even real being
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: there was walking. But Rial was like, well I was
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: the closest one, and that's all the way magic works.
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: I was just like, Nope, A lot of determined that
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: was a lie. So so I don't know about the
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: DNA test on this window.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the daddy is. I don't know
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: if there's two mommies. I don't think there is no daddy.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was just born out of thin air.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: No, I mean.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: My mother died.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: What did he say when he said, he only said
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: his parents being asleep? Last week he talked about his.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Parents being asleep and he the only gendered parent He
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: said it was his father because he's like, my father
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: loves his suvide whenever they used it right the sea kettle.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: So the only gendered parent we've heard of has been
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: his father.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: God damn it fire.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: She said he was the only one not burned.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: He was the only one not burned.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: That crazy demon was in there, and he was the
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: deep didn't even go after him.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: You think he threw himself through the window. Yes, he
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: did a he did a jazz out the out the
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: house to himself, you know, you know, just flew to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: the side, right right, right, right right.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: He's an actor, like he's that's whenever you're pointing out
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: that he's conveniently not benefics. I feel like you said
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: episode two was the last episode, like whenever they're putting
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to spell together in the sea, like he's not part
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: of the coven?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like is he.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: Not part of the coven? Or is he not part of.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. Is she is he basically
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: an industry plant?
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Is he the mole?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Hm? This this ship is?
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: This ship is insane because I just don't trust that nigga.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That's how That's where I am at this point. And
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: then I'm just trying to figure out where do we
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: go from here? Until I guess I don't know they're
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna, as you said, Ben, they're gonna put
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: a board on somebody and stone them to death. Like
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: the next the next ship is gonna be Earth probably,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: And what is that gonna look like?
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: The next trial?
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Who's the Earth Witch? The Green Witch? Rio?
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: That's what do we think?
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Rio is actually going to help them whenever it's he retired,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: because that's my.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: She helped them this time. She played the drums, she needed,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: everyone needed to participate. And I love how the fucking
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: road wars.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: The role was like I ah ah, you know recipes
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: that came in Matumbo, I'm not today.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Like the role was like you're going into this house
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: whether you like it or not, so you have to,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: like you have no fucking choice at this point.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: You're not going nowhere else or you die.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's two people who are gonna make
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: sure the sabotage things just they go bad enough. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: it's not even counting Agatha, because I get the sabotage
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: is out of selfishness, Like it's not even like she's
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: like in there to mess things up.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: She just talking to make sure she.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Everything is going in her way and she do whatever
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: it takes to make sure everything leans towards her, not
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: counting her.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: The teen and Real.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: To me are the maid ones to watch to throw
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: everybody else off because they know that the rest of
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: the Covin is concerned about what Agatha's gonna do with
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: her trifling but right, So, the teen, like I said,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: has been ingratiating himself with the coved so they're not
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: they're not looking at him the same way to look
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: at Agath.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: In.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Real doesn't even have to worry about doing that because
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: they she stand.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: In her power and enticed by her. Both Alice and yep, yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: it's both of them. They don't know what to do
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: So okay, okay, no, and I feel I agree with
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you on both of those. And I think the teen
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: is like I said that whole Oh, I'm on the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: COVID now and now no wonders her question him because
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: he almost died.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, you know, now you're in
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: there for sure.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: It's like forty five, you know, and that fake ass
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you know twice, I mean twice. Yeah.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Also speaking of twice, portion we was right she had
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: the Sharon had the potion twice. Well, that's probably the
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: reason why she died. They said she had it twice
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: and only had one an adult, so maybe that's why
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: she does But.
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  Speaker 5: Where was her hair? Listen?
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Did y'all have any predictions for the next episode or
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: anything that we didn't mention to point.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Out from this episode?
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: One thing that I knew was gonna happen.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: It's like any classic get the game together, but everybody's
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: all on different sides of like looking out for themselves
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: kind of thing is that each trial forces them to
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: feel vulnerable and then like get closer to each other.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: So this is the first campsite scene where they're like
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: all kind of kumbaya.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: Like laugh about begudges together.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: And so the more they feel like a coven, the
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: more they're going to be tested like a coven. And
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: that's going to be interesting going down the road and
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: like who's actually going to have each other's backs? Whatever,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: something another traumatic thing happens because like they're these have
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: all been based on each other's traumas, so so part
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: seems like Alice, Jennifer and Lilia I'll know that they
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: can't trust Agatha and are moving accordingly, but are they.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Going to get a little to chubby.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: And that be.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: A thing that takes what about gotcha? Okay?
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Then you got anything any questions?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: No, not any more questions, you know, I don't think
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I wanted to shout out. Was I like the Japanese
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: only mask. I think they're called that were on the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: wall in the crib and they usually represent especially ones
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like that look like demons.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: That's what means.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and definitely represent demons. And uh, they're famous for
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Marvel Comics, a character named Ogon who trains Wolverine in
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the Art of Samurai whereas one and he also trains
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Kitty Pride Shadow.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Well, what where did I'm interesting? I'm glad you brought
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: that up.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: When Jennifer's looking at it, she seemed particular disturbed by
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the mask. Why why did that disturb her?
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: It is the demon and just a whole fear, you know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: like everybody's looking at everything at that point. They're all
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: being you know, scared. Okay, Yeah, I said, that's supposed
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: to be the horror of it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Okay. And they didn't have no special song at the end.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: This was just like because I know you peeped that
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: the songs were changing every at the end of every episode.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Didn't really like it was only for the water for
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: episode three.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Guess like when somebody died.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: That's my the new theory is every time somebody dies
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: the song that.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Change damn.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Darkness is right?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Is somebody gonna die or be near death every going forward?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Like I damn yes. That goes with I'm saying that,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: you know, some of these people ain't making it out
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: of this. She only made it out with one before
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, here's my theory.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Here's my question, slash, yeah, question, what are the questions
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: on going?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: So?
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Like I mentioned before, all the tarot cards, so for
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Afar through the series, are the number three?
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Does that mean? So? Like so we heard.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: And true, is the end goal actually going to be three?
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: I get the rio in.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: T Yeah, that makes sense.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: And that's what the threes keep coming up for. It's
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: going to be three that make it off the road?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Damn it? I again sacrifice.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Goddamn Yeah, But like you'll also distressed, maybe it's not
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the true death for any of them, you know.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: That's the question.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the other I have the mysteries that
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I have or just like the questions that I have,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: like that needs to be answered by by the end
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: of the show, or I'll be like, what are we doing?
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Can't I get to actually get her powers back? Like
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: is this like a journey of like actually testing something
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: else in her? Like her powers actually will be different
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: if she gets stuff.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, her powers are so ill defined that I don't
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: think that.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like we know that she could take you
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: with powers. Will she could be able to take this power?
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: It will be a different set, Like what's going on?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Like a different power set problem? Yeah, Okay, she wants
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the purple and I don't think she's gonna get that back.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think purple.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if she can't get her powers back, what was
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: she have to sacrifice in order to do so? So
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: will she have to sacrifice the team? Like what did
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: she actually to give up? She had to give her
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: son to get the dark Hold, which had to give.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: Up to do this.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: She's not gonna do it again. That's it. It's like,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: you know, once again about the storytelling, you're not gonna
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: repeat the same story as told before.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, she's not gonna repeat the same mistake twice.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Be Like I think that's the thing they're gonna try
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: to like tice its into what actually lies at the
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: end of the Water's Road. It's gonna be like a
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Wizard of Oz where it's like, don't look by the curtain,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: it's not actually which is not.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Actually what you think that? I mean, that's what they've
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: been alluding to.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: The entire time, like fucking Rio skipping down like Dorothy
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: and them did on the Wizard viol of the Yellow
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Brick Road.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Like everything about this is screaming was it of Oz?
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: And then what this is?
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: My this is my main thing is I don't think
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: that Agatha leaves the show with her powers and it's
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: able to take on the Seven by herself.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: I think what's gonna happen is.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: That she's gonna need her coven in order to take
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: off the steven.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: A red Herring too.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: They're not so what do you think they are?
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're the main problem.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: They're not the main problem.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that was just to get them on
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: the road and then we'll see. But I don't think
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: there'll be like this big battle where to come in
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: and then fight. I don't think that's like I think
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: it's been. It's a hero's journey that we're seeing on
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: this show a lot, you know, as the whole. You know, Oh,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in myself, to believe in on myself,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: and I think that's more the journey that Agatha has
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: to go on you more than anything. She needs to
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: learn to not stop, you know, self destructing.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: But do you think what happens is that at the end,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: like does she get back to Westfield?
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: Is the sales seven or is gone?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: No, No, they'll be dealt with. They're gonna get to
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: the road, you know that before we get back to Westfield.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I think the Seven are gonna show up again. I
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: just don't think they're.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Like they're not the big boss mini boss.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the big bosses their emotions.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: You know, they're the own worst enemy type shit.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. Okay, you're hanging with my emotions?
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 56:33
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