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P Diddy, Investigating Influencers? RHOBH, RHOC with Kempire · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
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  Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 2: Where?
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  Speaker 1: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 2: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage. No. Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else. Heather MacDonald has got
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  Speaker 1: Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have returned guest.
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  Speaker 1: This guy knows the Juicy Scoop. This is Kempire. I
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  Speaker 1: found you on TikTok, Reels. You get scoop. You cover
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  Speaker 1: it really well. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I have to give you your flowers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that expression.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because no, there are a lot of people in
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  Speaker 3: this business, as you know, you've been in the business
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  Speaker 3: a long time, that are haters, that don't support other people.
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  Speaker 3: You've been supportive when I was just beginning, so I
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  Speaker 3: have to give you your flowers. Oh, that's so nice.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. You're great. So let's get into, I
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  Speaker 1: haven't talked about Diddy in a minute because I was
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  Speaker 1: just like, what is even going on? We're frustrated nobody
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  Speaker 1: else is ever being named. But some weird stuff happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I had a friend send it to me who wrote,
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  Speaker 1: you might want to stop talking about Diddy. Look at this.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a TikTok post. Of this guy that
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't familiar with, but he does... How would you
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  Speaker 1: describe his material? He does funny bits, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: a parody.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not really familiar with him either. But when I
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  Speaker 3: saw the story that apparently there are private investigators hitting
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  Speaker 3: up content creators, you know, are you being paid to
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  Speaker 3: report on Diddy? And I was like, okay. So I
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  Speaker 3: looked at his stuff and I was like, but why
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  Speaker 3: this particular individual?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so... So anyway, so my friend sent this to
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  Speaker 1: me and I was like, wait, I think now this
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  Speaker 1: also happens a lot with TikTok where someone is doing
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  Speaker 1: something funny. Like and, you know, the first 50 comments
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  Speaker 1: don't get that it's funny. OK, so so I was like,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this guy's joking. But no, TMZ is reporting on
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  Speaker 1: it now. I saw another content creator discuss it. This girl,
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  Speaker 1: what is her name? Amalik Panobi. And she got 50,000 likes.
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  Speaker 1: So she's quite popular. She's a cute girl. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess she had the same investigators come to her. So
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  Speaker 1: according to what I saw is he thought his friend Donnell,
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  Speaker 1: who is a comedian I know, that they worked together,
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  Speaker 1: was coming over. So he heard like a knock on
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  Speaker 1: his back door and that's who he thought he was
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  Speaker 1: seeing to do like a podcast together. And these two guys,
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  Speaker 1: just two white guys like, mid 40, 50 years old,
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  Speaker 1: are like, hey, we want to just talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: Are you the, you know, are you the influencer named,
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  Speaker 1: whatever his name was, Secret Service something.
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  Speaker 3: Secret Service Sam.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's like, yeah, what's this about? And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: we just are curious. Are you being paid to do
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  Speaker 1: your videos about Diddy? And, you know, in watching it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, these guys aren't, in my opinion, not actors.
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  Speaker 1: They really do seem like they're just like retired cops
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  Speaker 1: that got into like investigating. Like they seem like legit.
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  Speaker 1: And so he's like, no, I only have 100,000 followers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't make money off this from the videos, which
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  Speaker 1: I can attest to. You have to have a lot
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  Speaker 1: more to make money of significance. And he's like, nobody,
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  Speaker 1: nobody's paying me. So then this other girl said the
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  Speaker 1: same thing happened to her.
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  Speaker 3: And another guy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there's a third one now?
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  Speaker 3: I found another guy that said the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the same two guys?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And are they all– did you figure out– were
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  Speaker 1: they all in L.A. or what cities are they in? No.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot where Secret Service Sam is. He's not in–
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where he's located. And this other guy
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  Speaker 3: is located in Arizona, I think he said.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like, why?
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 3: What is going on?
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  Speaker 1: I think there's several things that could be going on.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think now that we are like, what is
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  Speaker 1: the truth? I think just like when somebody goes, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, look at this hate message I got. And
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  Speaker 1: the message is written from someone in this camp. So
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  Speaker 1: you would immediately think, this camp is horrible. Look at
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  Speaker 1: the hate message they sent to me. But now I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know that. Someone... who hates that camp is
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  Speaker 1: posing like their worst member, whether it's politics, you know,
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  Speaker 1: celebrities hating each other, whatever. And then the, or the
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  Speaker 1: person puts it on themselves to say, I'm a victim.
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  Speaker 1: Look at who's look how awful they are coming after me.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like, so I'm like, wait, what is,
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  Speaker 1: what are we? Cause the first thing you would see this,
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  Speaker 1: you'd think, wait a minute. Is that why I'm seeing–
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  Speaker 1: if you're just a non-person covering this, you might see
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  Speaker 1: what if this isn't true about P. Diddy? What if
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  Speaker 1: all these people that have infiltrated the internet with all
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  Speaker 1: their stories from I went to a Diddy party to
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  Speaker 1: 20 years ago he did this to me, what if
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  Speaker 1: all these people were being paid in an ultimate smear
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  Speaker 1: thing to get P. Diddy to go down so that
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  Speaker 1: these other bad people– You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Trying to change the narrative. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they're trying to– so that could be
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  Speaker 1: one story. Or it could be that truly they did
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  Speaker 1: find some people that were getting paid just like we
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  Speaker 1: found with now influencers are coming forward and sharing that
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  Speaker 1: they were getting things from different political camps to either
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  Speaker 1: be pro-influencers or diss the other side, which I think
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  Speaker 1: gave them the idea– to then put this out there
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  Speaker 1: for people to be like, what is it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's not far from the truth because literally the
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  Speaker 3: Southern District of New York that has charged Diddy has
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  Speaker 3: accused him of using his own children to change the
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  Speaker 3: narrative and to manipulate potential jurors. So this is legally
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  Speaker 3: happening and he's being accused of doing this from his
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  Speaker 3: jail cell.
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  Speaker 1: Right, where it's like, well, which I don't agree with
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  Speaker 1: because you have kids and There's been kids who have
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  Speaker 1: stood by non-famous. Their dad's being accused of killing their mother.
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  Speaker 1: And from the famous case of the staircase, those kids
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  Speaker 1: stick by those kids' people too.
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  Speaker 3: The prosecution says that the conversations that he's had with
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  Speaker 3: his children about the engagement of said posts, he's talking
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  Speaker 3: about the analytics. Oh, he is.
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  Speaker 1: So his conversations that are being taped, he's really saying
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  Speaker 1: get out there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And just, what was it, this week, the judge ruled
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  Speaker 3: that the prosecution has to destroy his jailhouse notes. So
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  Speaker 3: he was in his cell, you know, writing, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: different information about his case, including Kalena Harper, who used
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  Speaker 3: to be his bandmate. Apparently he may have paid her
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  Speaker 3: to put out a statement after Don Rashard's lawsuit against Diddy,
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  Speaker 3: telling her, like, you know, that was not my experience.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so his former bandmate.
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  Speaker 3: From Diddy Dirty Money.
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  Speaker 1: Has spoken and said, you know, he was the greatest guy.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing bad happened to me.
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  Speaker 3: She also did a recent interview with a YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 3: and she didn't look the best. She looked inebriated. She
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  Speaker 3: looked high. So she's not the best witness.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think all these people that are, you know,
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  Speaker 1: telling their stories, I feel like not one is there
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  Speaker 1: any real proof. There's the young girl who said I
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  Speaker 1: was– you know, uh, trafficked from, um, Riverside social services
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  Speaker 1: and kept in the tunnels of Bel Air. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: still like, and people said, are there these tunnels? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, there's permits and CFOs that you
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  Speaker 1: get of homes. Like when I was a realtor, we
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  Speaker 1: could get that and we could see that this thing
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  Speaker 1: was added on and not with a permit or the
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  Speaker 1: original house was this size. So I'm like, If there
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  Speaker 1: really are tunnels underneath that were maybe built in 1930
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  Speaker 1: when the house was originally built in the things of
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  Speaker 1: like what if there's a war or something, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We would know if they were there and they'd be like, actually,
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  Speaker 1: there are tunnels because this builder did that. Like we
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  Speaker 1: don't have the answer to that. And so it's like,
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  Speaker 1: then we, you know, all the Jaguar Wright stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Jaguar.
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  Speaker 1: Who, you know, was singing like this, telling all this
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  Speaker 1: before he was arrested about what was going on. Then
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  Speaker 1: she did all these interviews. Then, I mean, people were
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  Speaker 1: doing impressions of her and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I love them.
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  Speaker 1: Which she liked. She, like, reposted some of them.
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  Speaker 3: Of course she does. She loves the attention. Here's the
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  Speaker 3: thing with Jaguar. I believe that Jaguar is telling the
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  Speaker 3: truth in a lot of ways. But I think because
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  Speaker 3: of the notoriety that she's gained since then, she's adding
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  Speaker 3: a little sauce. She's really feeling herself in regards to it.
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  Speaker 3: So there's truth with what she's saying. And I've said
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  Speaker 3: this before. I think a lot of people right now
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  Speaker 3: will believe anything that you say about Diddy or Jay-Z,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that nasty little couple that does nasty things,
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  Speaker 3: as she said in her Piers Morgan interview. Anyone will
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  Speaker 3: believe it. I can tell you about the Diddy story
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  Speaker 3: that I have. I went to a freak-off party before
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  Speaker 3: with Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: You did?
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  Speaker 5: No!
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  Speaker 1: Oh! See?
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  Speaker 4: See?
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  Speaker 3: Immediately, and I'm sure the audience probably.
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  Speaker 1: No, you said it really convincing. I immediately saw you
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  Speaker 1: in a white outfit going about, you know, 15 years ago.
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  Speaker 1: You're just a.
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  Speaker 3: Little baby camp. Hanging out with Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hanging out with... See, that's the thing. Anyone will believe anything.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I'm not saying that... Free Diddy, no. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying that. What I'm saying is that now people
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  Speaker 3: are jumping on the bandwagon, and I think real victims
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  Speaker 3: are not being believed because of that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, these cases... you know,
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  Speaker 1: they do have to have some validity, like I've said before.
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  Speaker 1: Even if it was 20 years ago, in taking on
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  Speaker 1: the case, it's like, I wrote it in a journal.
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  Speaker 1: I told my mother. I told my best friend. And
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  Speaker 1: then the investigator for the attorney goes and is like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and she went here and this happened, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: So we think we've got someone here. But the guy
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  Speaker 1: is also you know, got like now like 60 or 50,
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  Speaker 1: you know, 70 people.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like- 120 at least.
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  Speaker 1: It's up to 120 now. I mean, how many people
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  Speaker 1: are working at the law firm?
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  Speaker 3: 120 with Tony Busby alone in Houston. That's 120. Then
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  Speaker 3: there were before that 12 civil suits as well. And
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  Speaker 3: Tony Busby says that he has multiple lawsuits coming too.
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  Speaker 3: He's being sued now by a high profile celebrity that
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  Speaker 3: says that he's trying to extort them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you are somebody that like, whatever, had
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  Speaker 1: a- a regrettable or not even regrettable night back in
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  Speaker 1: the day with Diddy. And you were like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was only 18 and I didn't know what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck I was doing. And all right, I'll call this attorney. Maybe,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I never, maybe I didn't really realize like how
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  Speaker 1: fucked up it was, but now I do. And I'm like, how,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because I'm like thinking how even like, how
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  Speaker 1: is this money even going to work with the pay?
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  Speaker 1: Is there's going to be like, Hey, it's a, Is
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  Speaker 1: he going to do like a class action? He's going
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  Speaker 1: to be like, look, there's so many of you. It's
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  Speaker 1: better that we just plop it all together. Hope to get,
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  Speaker 1: you know, 20 million from Diddy. And then you each
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  Speaker 1: get a portion and I get 40 percent of it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: According to Tony Busby, it's not a class action. He's
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  Speaker 3: made that clear that he's filing individual lawsuits. But he's
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  Speaker 3: also said that there have been already some celebrities that
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  Speaker 3: have settled with some of these victims that have been
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  Speaker 3: naming other people that may have been at these Diddy parties.
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  Speaker 3: So this new, which is all.
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  Speaker 1: Like adding to this. And also listen, everybody that's part
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  Speaker 1: of this, you know, either went to the party because
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  Speaker 1: they were fascinated by celebrity or wanted to be one themselves.
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  Speaker 1: So now whether all the, you know, and now everybody, listen,
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  Speaker 1: everybody wants to be famous. Everybody has an Instagram account.
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  Speaker 1: Most everybody has a podcast. Everyone has a TikTok account.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, If I can have a moment just
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  Speaker 1: to say I went to this one party just to
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  Speaker 1: get any kind of thing. Yeah, we're seeing it all,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a lot. But as, again, I keep saying,
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  Speaker 1: who are the other people?
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  Speaker 3: I think those other people are going to be named.
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  Speaker 3: Not everyone. Not everyone. But based off of what we
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  Speaker 3: heard from the Southern District of New York this week
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  Speaker 3: in response to, because, you know, Diddy is trying to
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  Speaker 3: get bail, I believe, Friday. This is when they're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to have the next bail hearing. He's already been denied
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  Speaker 3: bail twice, but he has a new judge, so he
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  Speaker 3: has an opportunity to seek bail again. I think because
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  Speaker 3: of what we found out in the prosecution's response is
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  Speaker 3: that he's doing things from the jail in regards to
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  Speaker 3: manipulating witnesses from the jail from outside. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: going to start dropping names.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that would be very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the names we will find out will
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  Speaker 3: be not the names that people have been throwing out there.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin Hart, Jay-Z, Meek Mill. I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be those people.
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  Speaker 1: Not as high profile.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think not as known as we know them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Do you have any insight that you can't say?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Not at the moment, Heather. Those guys knocking on your door.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to get sued, Heather.
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  Speaker 1: Come on now. Yeah. Also, Diddy's sons issue a cease
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  Speaker 1: and desist over Kim Porter's book.
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  Speaker 3: The second book.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, explain.
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  Speaker 3: There was the first book, Kim's Lost Words, that hit
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  Speaker 3: number one on Amazon, which they eventually pulled because everyone.
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  Speaker 1: And who is the person who claims that they got
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  Speaker 1: the drive from her and printed it out? What is
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  Speaker 1: that guy's name again?
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  Speaker 3: There are two different people.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: There is the first book that came out. The second book,
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  Speaker 3: Courtney Burgess, who I don't believe— really new diddy like that.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's just the middleman. He received it from
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  Speaker 3: some source. He's done interviews with News Nation talking about
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  Speaker 3: the book. And he didn't seem like the most credible.
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  Speaker 3: But again, I think he's just the middleman. And apparently
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  Speaker 3: he is the one that they sent the cease and
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  Speaker 3: desist to in regards to this second book that he's
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  Speaker 3: trying to put out saying that, no, this is the
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  Speaker 3: real book. These are Kim's lost words. Kim's best friend
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  Speaker 3: says that that's not true. The family has said that
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  Speaker 3: that's not true. But now they're legally taking action, saying that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, within a certain period of time, you have
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  Speaker 3: to take this down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because anybody could have just, you know, like, what's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, someone could just go, here's Heather's loss. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and also, I just thought of a crazy
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  Speaker 1: thing with the AI.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's say I went missing, okay? Okay. And all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden it's like, you know, hey, Heather, this
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  Speaker 1: is coming from Heather's housekeeper. This was the drive. And
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  Speaker 1: here's the book. They, knowing my life and knowing my
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  Speaker 1: timeline of my life, because it's all over Instagram and everything,
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  Speaker 1: and same with Kim Porter's, you know, you could talk
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  Speaker 1: about the fight happened after this crazy party. And people
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  Speaker 1: could go, wait, there was a crazy party that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then you can do how does Heather speak and write.
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  Speaker 1: AI being that I wrote two books and then this
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  Speaker 1: thing could come out. It could kind of sound in
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  Speaker 1: my voice. Now, I don't know Kim Porter's voice, but
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  Speaker 1: the little bit that I saw, I said, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is bullshit. This just doesn't sound like a memoir,
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  Speaker 1: generally type of way that a woman that's been through
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  Speaker 1: what she's been through would describe these situations. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this goes back to what you were speculating at
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  Speaker 3: the top. You know, are these things that are coming
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  Speaker 3: out trying to manipulate what people think? And some people
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: have said the first book, that's what they believe. There
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: was someone that was closely connected to Diddy and Kim
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Porter that just put this out there to throw people
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: off the scent.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: To make people go, I don't believe anything now. Yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm wondering now.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Do I believe that there was a book? Word on
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: the street, Kim had openly said that she was working
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: on a book. So there is a book.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: And how do you feel about speculation about did she
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: really die from pneumonia or was there foul play involved?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: This particular point, look, the kids have said that's not true. However,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: at this particular point, not everything has to be a
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: lie when it comes to Diddy. There has to be
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: some sort of truth. And the reason that Diddy has
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: been able to get away with what he's been able
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: to get away with for 30 plus years is because
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: he knows people. And outside the music industry, he knows politicians.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: The Tom Girardi of it all. That's how he was
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: able to get away for decades because he had the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: pockets of people in law enforcement, politicians, People in power.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if you knew this. There was,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: you know, this conspiracy theory. The day that Diddy was arrested,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: all of these CEOs decided to step down from their positions.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Including Kevin Lyles.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Now, who's Kevin Lyles?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: He's a big music industry executive. And he stepped down
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: from the 300 Entertainment Group.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And Sony, right? The Sony guy did? Yeah. Yeah. And
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: why would it behoove them to step down at that moment?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Because they're probably scared of what Diddy knows. And I
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: do believe Diddy.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And they would rather step down and take their money
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and just hope that, let me put my head in
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the sand and hope that I'm not in a position
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to be pointed at.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Right. Or they weren't participatory, but they certainly helped with
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: hush money or kept people happy so that they don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: speak or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, because you think about it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: If all of a sudden you're in bed with this
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: ditty for his clothing or his glasses or whatever he
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: was doing, the liquor. And then somebody's like, I have evidence.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I have photos. I have this. I have that. He
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: was with underage people, blah, blah, blah. Then they're going
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to be like, what do we need to do to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: make you feel whole again?
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So that we don't have to clear out all the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Sean John glasses and sweatshirts from Macy's.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: But remember, even before he got arrested, all of those
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: things were falling apart for him already. Macy's had already
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: pulled Sean John. He was losing a lot. And money.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And were they because it just wasn't hip and cool anymore?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Or was it because of this stuff?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: No, remember the Cassie video.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, because of... So, okay, I was thinking prior to...
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like two years ago, was this stuff still hot? I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: feel like the Sean John clothes and stuff were a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: little already like.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was hot.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Like it was a little over.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: It was hot Macy's, but I don't know if it was.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the Ciroc was like more like.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: On its way out.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, like five, six years ago, yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was definitely, according to Forbes, he
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: was already losing money. but he's lost a lot of
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: money in the last year because of the Cassie lawsuit
• 19:54
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• 19:56
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• 20:40
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• 20:43
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• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then... You know, and then the one son
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: is named in a lawsuit by the steward. Christian. Yeah, Christian,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: by the girl that was working on the yacht, said
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that she was assaulted. And then the three boys attempted
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to fight Ray J at the Halloween party. What is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: With Ray J? Now he has a news channel. He
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: has his own network. He's a journalist now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Well, good.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe this is why he's, maybe because of that, he's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: trying to be like, I'm going to set up the truth.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: And now I do have all this knowledge and stuff.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And once, once he's probably not the one that wants
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to point the finger, but once it all gets cracked
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: open and you know, I'm sure you have been like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: me where you get some juicy tidbit about somebody and
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you're like, Oh God, I have so many thoughts about this,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: but I, be the one who breaks this story because
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: this is always me this is this is a family
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and this is a housewife i like and and then
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: let somebody else break it open then once daily mail
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and you know they pick it up then i can
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: say yeah got that news you know a week and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: a half ago but that's not what my show is
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: my show is not breaking news blind items that's not
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: me but like so i think he's waiting For these
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: people to be arrested or whatever. And then he can go, okay,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: come to me. Because I was there. I knew all
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: this stuff.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And now what I say will be proved to be.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: He's sort of alluding.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: In these recent, like literally in the last week, he's
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: sort of alluding to what he knows. And he says that,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: you know, people are reaching out to him, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: worried about what Diddy might say or do. He also
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: said that recently, because as you know, he was almost
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: jumped by the Combs boys.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: But he says he's good with them. He's had a
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: conversation with them. He's good with them.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Very interesting.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: He's good with them right now.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Now, this is a crazy thing that came out from
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Daily Mail a couple days ago. Aerial photos show Diddy's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: 20-foot statue memorializing Kim Porter and her little, quote, badonk-y-donk
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: at his Los Angeles mansion as he languishes in jail.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: This is a real article, okay? This is a huge
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: statue of a woman's body, much like– In the front
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of the USC Coliseum, there's a man and a woman's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: perfectly fit bodies that I think were erected for the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: 84 Olympics without heads. Okay. So it looks like that. Okay.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And it says, Sean Diddy Combs Mansion features this 20-foot
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: chrome statuette said to be Kim Porter. And the statue,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: which highlights her little badonkadonk, was reportedly purchased by Diddy
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: After a spiritual retreat three years before her death in 2018,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and the mansion, which is valued at $ 62 million. I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: didn't realize it was worth that much. And now on
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the market for $ 61. 5. Oh, they dropped it $ 500, 000. What
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a steal. A pair of empty and unused facilities covered
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: outdoor furniture. So, yeah, I mean, that's another thing. Like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you know, if you have all the money in the world,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: even if you could get a deal on this house. Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Do you want this house?
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's almost like, yeah, it's the same thing of like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: there was, you know, murders or whatever. Could you buy
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: a house where there were murders? You always have to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: disclose if there's a murder. You don't have to disclose.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: You have to disclose if someone died. But unless it
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: was a murder, you don't have to say what they
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: died from.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Because there was a time in the early AIDS epidemic
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: where then– they were people would say oh you know
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this person whatever died of AIDS here and then that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: was very prejudiced and would then someone would think oh
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: what is there some like weird germs of course we
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: know so they said then they changed the laws at
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: least in California only if there was like a like
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a murder like police report murder type of a thing
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you have to say it but if someone just like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: died of some illness hospice whatever yeah you know what
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know that you have to say even if
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: someone died okay.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: That's a little bit good to know. I don't know why.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Because before this law, my mom was a realtor, was funny,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and was like, I'm about to croak. Just throw me
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: onto the sidewalk. I don't want you guys to have
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: trouble selling this house. So I think there's different things.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: But clearly, this is something, you know, 30 years from now,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: if this house is still around, obviously, people could figure
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it out. But, like, would it be something that would
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, that's the Diddy house. That's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: where– Because I don't even know.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: He's having a hard time selling it right now.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And it's also so, I mean, that's so expensive.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: You don't have $ 62 million?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really? Oh, wait. I want to tell you this
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: one other story, which I also thought was so weird. Because,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you know, in choosing these stories to talk about, there
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: isn't like that much happening when it's not like about P. Diddy.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: But this thing came from TMZ. And I'm like, what
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the hell is this? Author of Obama Beach House Sex.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: claims book reveals who should play her in film. I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: had to read this like three times. What are you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: talking about? So Coria Dwanen, I'm probably saying her name wrong,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: is an author of this book called Undercover Heartbreak, a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: memoir of trust and trauma. She helps her book detailing
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: an alleged secret encounter at Barack Obama's Hawaii home will
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: be adapted into a film in her memoir. She claims
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a Secret Service agent who was part of Obama's security
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: team secretly brought her into the former president's residence and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: suggested they have sex in Michelle Obama's bathroom. So as
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you're scrolling, you see this like pretty black girl being
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: interviewed and you see like Obama sex, his home and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Michelle's bathroom. And you're like, wait, you know, in all
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the years that, Of Obama being out there They never
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: have said No mistress has come forward No nothing Michelle
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: has been like I wanted to kill him for 10
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: years She's pretty honest about things And I've always been
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: like I think if there was somebody I just think
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: we would know by now So I was like wait
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a minute And then I'm like wait So this guy
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: was just a secret service guy Met a girl Obama
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't even.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: There But he's the name Right.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: But also like how– of all the stories, there are
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: probably so many girls– it's not the president. But there
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: are probably so many girls where some guy worked for
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: some powerful dude. Maybe he was his house manager. Maybe
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: he was just his errand boy. And he could impress
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a girl while the guy is on tour and bring
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: her up the stairs and bone her. But like this
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: story and like making it sound like– Like, oh, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: then I fucked in Michelle's bathroom. This is the trashiest story.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: But she wrote a memoir? So what else is in
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: this memoir? That took you two seconds to read.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm like, okay, so, you know, and listen,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Secret Service have written books. They have done books where
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: they say, this is the nicest president. This one, you know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: was an asshole. This one ate weird food. It's like,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: even though they're not supposed to, like, it's kind of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: like they still... you know, they are Secret Service, but
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: at the same time, like, there's going to be some
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: really stellar ones and then there's going to be some thirsty,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: shady ones that wants to impress a girl, knows the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: code or whatever. Yeah. I just was like, dude, this
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: is not going to be a movie. Exactly. It'll be
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a movie.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Because that's the only part that's interesting.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: And it's not even that interesting. Exactly. Who picked it up? Tubi?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, even though the house is gorgeous in Hawaii, whatever,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and it's his house, it's like, It's just another rich
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: person's second home that someone from his staff boned a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: girl there to impress her.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: God only knows what else Secret Service could tell us.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on. There's probably even juicier stories than that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't even involve Obama. It's his home.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's funny. Okay. Let's talk about the premiere last
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: night of Real Housewives. of Beverly Hills. This has always
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: been my favorite franchise. Some of us have felt very
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: slighted by Bravo. In particular, that we will probably never
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: see the ultimate girls trip. Morocco. And recently I did
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a live show with Brandi Howard. Brandi, not Brandi, Brandi Howard.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And she goes, I think that we should file a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: class action lawsuit against Bravo because we want to see
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that show. Like we want to see there's certain things
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: where you're like, come on. So this premiered and it
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: is not disappointing.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: It is saving Tuesday nights because Roni is such trash.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills saving Tuesday nights.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And so the way it was on last night on
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Bravo is this came then Roni.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Lucky for them.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And then Watch Robbins Live. So they're trying to get
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: people to like, you know, stay for the Roni.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not even really covering it because there's just... There's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: nothing to cover. And nobody's really watching it and it's just,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you know... And Dubai is gone.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Canceled. Oh, put on pause. That's bravos.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the put on pause is just such a nice way.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: It's basically a guy breaking up with you just saying,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I just need a break. We're just taking a break.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Taking a little break. Okay, so it starts out really
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: pretty juicy because we get Dorit's telling Dorit. Erica Jane
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and Erica Jane really, I'm so glad she like didn't
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: give up on life two years ago because it, it
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: was everything. I mean, there are certain people in this
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: world that you really should look to and go, you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you gotta stick, you gotta stick through it. Cause now
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: she's like, Now she's never had a better personality. She's humble.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: She's likable. She's funny.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: She was always that. She was just unlikable during that
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: dark period.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: No, I think she came in not understanding what this
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: really was and still being very reserved because she was
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: still under this man's thumb. Even though he let her
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: go dance and be with her gays while he had
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: affairs and she was like, you fuck him. I don't
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: need to. Like now we kind of know. But she
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: was still committed to this, thinking, I'll never be able
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to divorce him because I won't be able to walk
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: away from anything because he's Tom Girardi. And so I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: think then... So now we get to see her just
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: rebuilding and having fun. And looking great. Yeah, and interesting
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that she tells Erica that because it was Erica who,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in a moment on BravoCon, was like, who's the next
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to get divorced? And she was just like, Dorit. Which again... Also, like,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: it is, you know, in talking about these shows and stuff,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and we've all made careers out of it, to say, like,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: who's going to be the next that's going to be
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: divorced is kind of.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Easy.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is kind of mean, but...
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not surprising that their marriage wouldn't last because... I.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Mean, there have been rumors around Dorit and PK for years.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I honestly believe that they've just decided this season they're
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: going to talk about it and make it their storyline.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I think it's always been there. People have... There have
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: been concrete solid information that these two have lived separate
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: lives tell us some of that information well yeah for
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: years though they've been saying they've been living separate lives
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: that they you know they're on the brink of divorce
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: and we know that happens in hollywood that that's sometimes
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: a rumor that's always out there they've said that about
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: kyle and mauricio but to read stories have her real
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: stories have never really been shared on beverly hills and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: this is probably the first time that they've and i
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: thought this with kyle and mauricio too I felt like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: oh no, this is the first time that they actually
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: want to make it their storyline and they're going to
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: run with it. And I saw her and watched What
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Happens Live this week and I was like, oh yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: they haven't told the kids according to her, which is
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: not unusual. But I was like, I wouldn't be surprised
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: if we see these two come back together again. And
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I'm actually kind of concerned because remember Roni before they
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: did the reboot? All of the Housewives were single. And
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: now on Beverly Hills, we have everyone being single.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is what it is, but these characters are
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: still worth it and good. I'm going to say they
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: are not going to get back together. And I think
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that she can wrangle a better, younger, richer dude. And
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I think that she should. I think every woman in
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Dorit's situation should look to their leader, Lauren Sanchez.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And realize that Lauren did it right. You do not
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: look to the path of Teddy who goes for, you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the horse trainer that matches the look of her animal.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: You do not.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Who's married to a woman, you know, that right in
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: your circle where your kid rides. No, that is not.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: If you're going to step out, if you're going to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: venture for anything, and I think she has been totally faithful.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: But now that the Band-Aid is ripped off, now that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: people know that whether you're working on it or something,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: if this has come out and we knew Teddy and
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Edwin were separated and she had shared that on her podcast, whatever,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: still it would be bad. But now that it's like
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: we're separated, now I think she can kind of put
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: herself on the market a little bit. And she is gorgeous.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: She is stylish. Stylish. And she was married to someone,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you know, in and out of bankruptcy, but still a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: guy who knows how to be rich. The house in
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Encino is now in pre-foreclosure, meaning they've missed four payments.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And a house that is, you know, whatever, is $ 7 million. Okay,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: so let's say the mortgage payment is $ 25, 000 a month
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and give or take $ 10, 000. So you are just, that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: is someone who is very, in my opinion, sophisticated at
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: playing the bankruptcy game. And knowing that he's getting divorced
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and everything, he's just not going to pay. And he knows,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: he has his choice. I'm saying this is my opinion
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: hearing it. Maybe they'll pay tomorrow. But I'm saying, if
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you're in this position, it takes a very long time.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: To then actually get the foreclosure and actually make those
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: people move out.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So in the past, when people have been in this position,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: they're like, whatever my, you know, my credit's already screwed, whatever.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to stay here for as long as
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I can.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Ask Kim Zolciak.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Rent free.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Rent free basically until I have to leave. And so
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that looks very bad because it's like, we see you with, your,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you know, $ 25, 000 outfits that are trendy and still probably
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: not even, you know, they're not fake. They're not being borrowed.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Everyone says, no, she actually buys them at the store.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So while you're doing that and someone else is at
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: home is like, I can't even buy a new dress
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: for Christmas. I, you know, I need to get my
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: things to, you know, not doing that. And then you,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and they're paying their mortgage and they're, Going to the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: bank and being like, what do I need to do?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Could I could I do a different payment plan? What,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you know, front. And they're just blowing it. I mean,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: according to what the news is, they're just blowing it off.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, she sort of kind of confirmed it in
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the first episode. The things that they haven't talked about
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: on the show, the bankruptcies, the suspected DUI. There are
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: things that they haven't talked about on the show that
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: she in one instance was sort of like confirmed it.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, OK.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: This is a new direct.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then, you know, he last year or whatever,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: it was like he was gone the entire time in London.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: And it's weird. He has some show about real estate,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: but he's not a real estate guy. So it's just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it's like a selling sunset in London. But he's but
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: it's just every every listing is just of like what
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the Culture Club guy. Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Boy George.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Boy George.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Boy George.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Boy George. It took me a second to think of it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Icon.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Boy George, yeah, has to show up at every scene.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: You know, his one client. I don't know. But I'm,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you know, and then also, what did you think of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the smoking? People are freaking out that she was smoking.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I don't understand why everyone is freaking out by that.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Because they haven't seen her do it before?
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I remember... So I'm not a smoker. Me neither. And
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: it seemed, you know, and for a very long time
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you could not smoke. Like since I was like 23,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: they've like passed a law. You can't smoke in L.A. restaurants.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: So you really don't see people smoking. Then everybody got
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the vapes. But I said, and whoever is a juicy
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: scooper that can find this, I predicted on this show,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know when, but I said real cigarettes are
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: going to be making a comeback. That's going to be
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: like the ultimate I can afford thing. A real cigarette. Okay.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: And to reach the starter of this.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Yes. That's the ultimate sign of wealth now. Because if
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you think about it, I'm guessing cigarettes are a lot
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: more expensive than a vape because you have the piece, right?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: So you're just filling the whatever it is.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know the price point for those things.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But I'm telling you, that's going to
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: be the flex. Like, I can smoke and I don't
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: care about the end of my life because I'm going
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to look fabulous and stay thin and just smoke. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: remember when Caitlyn Jenner came out as Caitlyn Jenner and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: people were like, you know, talking about, did you hear
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the news? Did you hear the news? And I remember thinking,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: did they find out that Caitlin smokes? Because when Caitlin
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: was Bruce, I remember I saw Bruce after painting dash.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Cause I was like doing a real estate deal with
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Courtney and he was painting the whole place for them.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: And then he came out and he lit a cigarette.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: And I remember I was so shocked because he's this,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Olympian, the greatest Olympian of our time. And
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, what? And then sometimes, you know, you'd
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: see it in the show. Chris Wood was that woman
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: that had, that was her treat. A cigarette with a
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: glass of wine or a martini, whatever. So I always
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, there are these like real elites that
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: love cigarettes, you know? So like, I am not, so
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: then I was like, did they find out that, you know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Bruce had smoked a cigarette? They're like, nope. Bruce is
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: a woman.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a cigarette thing. Wow.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Who cares about that? I'm like, this is more shocking
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that this Olympian enjoys a cigarette. So I think it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: really funny that people are just sort of shocked by that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: They're all memes with it now.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Am I missing something? So I'm not missing something.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: No, it is. I think it's a big ordeal in California.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: It was just very like a very out shamed thing
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: for so long. It was always people kind of doing
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: it secretly or, you know, I don't want people to
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: see that I'm smoking. But they just love the taste
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and the experience of a cigarette.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's also symbolic of the season that Dorit's
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: going to have.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: She's just like, I don't give a you know what.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I think that was sort of like the symbolism, like
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: this is how I'm coming in this season.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: We have a new cast member, Bose, who is highly
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: successful in her own right. But as like CEO and executive,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: all these things from Netflix to different places, she is
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: a widow. And also she's retired. So it's kind of
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: interesting that she just was like, I want to know
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: her story because why she would be like, fuck it,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go on the show and have fun
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: and now I'm going to be in front of the
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: camera and I'm going to live my second chapter in life.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I've worked my ass off as hardcore executive and now
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I can just, it's kind of amazing. I love it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I definitely want to know more about her story. She
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: was the chief marketing officer for Netflix and then she
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: had that same position at Uber. She's had a very
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: storied past and then within two seconds, a two minute
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: conversation with Dorit, we learned a lot about her Yeah.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Especially she was married for 10 years and she had
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: trouble with her husband. And her husband got sick and
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: that brought them back together. So I'm really interested to
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: know more about her. But the fact that she was
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: a chief marketing officer, I'm kind of like, okay, let
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: me just see how she navigates reality television. Because with
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: that type of career and experience, I would think that
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you're a little bit probably a little bit more calculated
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: on how your image is put out there to the world.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: So I'm sort of like, I got my eye on her.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Well, first season... nobody's going to fuck with her.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And she is just going to come looking like in
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: her gorgeous outfits with her, you know, perfect, unique hairstyles.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's fun to watch because we have the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: party where everyone's wearing.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: The surreal party, the surrealism party.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I still don't really get it. Am I the dumb
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: person that doesn't understand?
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: No, a lot of the housewives didn't get it either.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: So it was like.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Why do they have the horns, the trees out of
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: their head?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: You want me to explain this?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of do. Like, here it is.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Well, clearly Dorit didn't get it because that is not
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: the surrealism era or age. Kyle definitely got it. That's just.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Is it like fantasy? Like horses and flowers?
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: It was an era. So it's sort of of that time.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: So that's what Sutton was giving. That was what Boz
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: was giving. That was what.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Dorit was giving a little more Lady Gaga it was
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: a little too modern do.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: You think so then they cav it out with their
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: friendship and the whole thing and there are a lot
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: of rumors and things that people think why they're no
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: longer friends what do you think of the rumor that
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: maybe Dorit and Mauricio might have had something going.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: On she was asked about that on Watch What Happens
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Live and she's like her response was interesting because she
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: denied it she's like oh that was so ridiculous but
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: it was just weird even the way she responded to it,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: If it was totally not true, there's been some things
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that have been said about me that are totally not true.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Like what? Just an example I'd like to know.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, that like I stole earrings worth $ 10, 000.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about that.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: That I stole earrings worth $ 10, 000 and blew off a
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: friendship of three years because I didn't want to pay
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: back the earrings and I'm a felon. So yeah, when
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: those things came, when anybody seems to think like, oh,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: but you know, whatever, you still didn't return the one
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that was left. Once it was discovered, the earrings are
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: $ 42 and all this other stuff. I will tell the,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I will be on my deathbed saying never was I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: told they were real because they weren't real. And this
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: was a, you know, a smear campaign and like so
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: fucked and so much betrayal. Like I will be saying
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: it like in passion. And it's always kind of the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: same feeling I get. Like, why I think it's hard
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: when someone is on trial for like a murder and they,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: they're saying they're innocent, but their attorney is like, we
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: don't want you to take the stand. And then the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: jury's like, well, they just sat there for three weeks,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you know, with nothing on their face. And I'm like,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: so yeah, the thing that, the fact that she's like, oh, please,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe if she feels, if she was extra impassioned,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think if someone, um, I've never
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: cheated on my husband and if that, if I was
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: on a show and someone was like, but you did,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: you know, what was, what about that? When I'd be like, Oh,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: my God, no. I don't know why I kissed his
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: shoulder at the time. I thought it was PKs. I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: don't even know. I was in a daze. I didn't
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: have any sleep. Less than 12 hours ago, you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: there was a gun to my head, and I thought
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I was going to die. So, like, no, I'm not
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: going to explain myself. But, no, I never have made
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: out with Mauricio. I never touched him. I've never given
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: him a handjob. Like, leave me alone. Like, that's what
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I would be like. But Dorit's not me.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: But that's you, exactly.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Right, Dorit's not me. So she might have just been like, please.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: But there are moments kept untouched. On camera, which, of course,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: they would throw us because they know that that's what
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: we want to see.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: They're playing into it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: That we're a little suspect. But still, no proof.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no proof. And look, do I believe it?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Not really. Because I do believe that these couples, as friends,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: hung out with each other. And Mauricio and PK are
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: very close, which I'm not saying is impossible. We know
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: all kinds of scandals that happened. But I don't know
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: if I necessarily believe the story. I think it's fun
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: for the audience to be like, I think it's true.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: It's very much like with the Diddy stuff. You believe it.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I can easily tell you, well, I have proof that
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Mauricio and Dorit had an affair.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: And I also think the thing that's happening with these
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: shows is that because so many of them really do
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: treat it like a job. Yeah. And they like their coworker,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: but they're not hanging out with a coworker when they're
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: not there. And then so they put them on the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: back burner until they have to film with them.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Literally the first scene that we see with Erica and Dorit.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: It's sort of like, oh my God, it's been so long.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: It's like, don't even pretend.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're not real friends, so we don't need
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: to see each other. We don't need to hang out
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: if we're not getting paid to. And that is very
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: different from the early years of these shows.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: We really knew each other.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Right. And then I also think like, yeah, I just,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: that I think, oh, and also so many things in
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the franchise, which we'll get into, is, you know, but
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you said this. on an Amazon line, on Watch What
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Happens Live, at BravoCon, on someone's podcast, in an article.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And then that's what we're talking about when we get
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: together after three months. Which is also like we're not
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: seeing stuff happen in the moment. Like, you know, we're
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: having a conversation at dinner and, you know, I like
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: it when housewives will be like, well, excuse me, like
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you're just going to let her talk to me like that?
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I thought you were supposed to be my best friend. Like,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: what the hell? And then the best friend would go, Yeah,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: but you have done this in the past. That's like
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: a real moment that we want to see, not a
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: set-up press moment.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: We have to remember, Kyle has been on this show
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: now 14 seasons. She's very pre-produced. I saw the trailer
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: for Beverly Hills, and I said, not another trailer with
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Kyle running through it crying. I was like, I can't
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: with Kyle. I was glad that it wasn't a lot
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: of Kyle in the premiere episode. And Kyle reaching for, like, oh,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: this is the reason I'm mad at you. It's because
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: of what you did at BravoCon. And they played what
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: she did at BravoCon. And I was like, Kyle, you
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: are reaching.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, right, which was the joke of, like, who's your
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: favorite sister? And she just said, well, or who's your
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: least favorite? And she's like, well, Kyle, ha-ha. Yeah, because
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to say Kathy. And she doesn't want
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: to shit on Kim, who's, like, you know, always, like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you know, about to have a nervous breakdown. So, like, yeah,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: so it was just a funny, stupid thing. But, yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I think... Yeah, this is just, it'll be interesting to see.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: But it was a good premiere. It was a good premiere,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I have to say.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Despite that. Now, when she speaks to Garcelle, Kyle, and
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: she's like, I can trust you. And I'm like, no,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you can't. And then Garcelle's sitting there and she's like,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to say her name, meaning Morgan Wade,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: because she doesn't want now to be discussed. Oh, now
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that you've become famous, you knew what you were doing
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: when you agreed to be on the show. You didn't
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: just fall off, you know, the turnip truck. You know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the coconut. You didn't just. Like, you knew what you
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: were doing. And then she's like, yeah, but then you
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: did a video. I loved Garcelle for that.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Making fun of.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: That, of you guys being a lesbian couple. And still, like,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: we don't know, but this has been hard. And I
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: have to think about it. I'm like, oh, so stop
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: milking it out.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: She is.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: So what is your opinion? Because I've shared mine.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that Garcelle held her accountable in
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: that moment because she spoke for the audience. Because you're
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: literally saying, oh, now you don't want to mention Morgan's name.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to mention it so much this season.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Morgan, Morgan, Morgan, Morgan.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: She's a public figure. She's been on the show. She
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: was in 20 scenes.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: She benefited from the show.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Benefited from the, yeah.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: And you did a whole music video alluding to a
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: lesbionic relationship.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: So now you don't want to mention her name? Now
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: you don't want to mention, now, has she come out?
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: No, but I think Morgan, I think Morgan, whatever, this
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: is what I think, in case you didn't know. I
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: think that, yes, there was something romantic and stuff in
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the beginning.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: She got turned out by it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Now they're just friends. But Morgan, like, still really cares
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: for her. But Morgan is also like, I'm a real
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: musician and I don't want to be wrapped up in
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: this brothel. I'm gonna make you love my... I'm just
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: guessing what Morgan is thinking. I'm a real musician. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: want to make it in this real world. I don't
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: want to be known as the housewife, lesbian side piece musician.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I want to be known as like, hey, you know,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a real one. And so don't... Like, we can still
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: hang out, Kyle, but I'm not going to show up
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: on the show. And like, I'd really appreciate if you
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: don't talk about me. And maybe they still like hook up,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: but I don't think they're like real, like a real couple.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: You think they hook up? I think we talked about
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: this the last time I was here.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they do or they don't, but
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like so sick of hearing about it. And maybe
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: she doesn't know. Maybe she just, I mean, she's probably
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: being honest where she's probably like, yeah, I really enjoyed her,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's just her or if
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I'm really gay, which is, you know, totally understandable. And,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: but it's just to the people at home, we feel like,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you know, get to the point, answer the question.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: What is the point? I'm interested to figure out. I
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: think she's having her L word moment.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she's having her moment where she's figuring it out.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: She may have gotten turned out by Morgan, but I
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: think she will eventually go back to men.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't think it's the first time she was
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: with a girl.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: She grew up here in Hollywood.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I think that she and Mauricio, you know, had fun.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: And I think they even had like a third or whatever.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: And then she was real open, and that's why she
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: was real... maybe okay with his, you know, whatever, stepping
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: out here and there. He was fine because otherwise he
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: was such a great husband and they got along that
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: she was fine with it. And then when she got
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: sober and everything else, she just was like, oh my God,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: what have I been, like, once the alcohol was gone
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: from her life, I think that she had like real
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: clarity about what is a turn off to her, what
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want anymore. And then I'm going to explore
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: this thing and it was really fun and I really
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: liked it. Yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Well, The difference here, though, is that she had a
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: relationship with Morgan. A one-night stand with someone is different.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: So her actually having emotional feelings for another woman, that
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: would be interesting. I have a prediction. I think she
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: was also on a rebound because of the Mauricio stuff.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I have a prediction. She's going to have a guy
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: next season. Of course. It's going to be a guy.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: And that's probably why Morgan's like, I don't want to
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: be on the show. I don't want to be with you.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: We could be friends. Morgan, lesbians, you can account for this.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: They had this moment where they've been with a heterosexual
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: woman and they break their heart.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: So Morgan probably was like, I don't want to be
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: in that position anymore. Or maybe I've been in that
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: position and I don't want that anymore.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: But I think this is just her story.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: And also I think Morgan wants to break away from this.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: From the Bravo universe probably.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Like, all of a sudden, Morgan's, like, doing shows. She
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: looks out. It's just, like, a sea of, like, my audience.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: She's like, where's my country lesbians at? This is not
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: what I'm, like, need. But just a girl like, Morgan! Like,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: wearing BravoCon shirts with her Air May bags. She's like, no,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: this isn't my vibe.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: I don't blame her.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Especially if you're a musician and you wanted to be
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: taken seriously as a musician. And maybe it was someone's,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I've speculated that it was some, Publish this idea. You
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: guys should come together. This would be great for your career, Morgan.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like as a comedian who then built my
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: podcast on talking about juicy stuff and Housewives being a
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: big part of it, I feel like I don't have
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the respect of comedians.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. I feel like they see me as... oh,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: that's the girl that only talks about Housewives. Oh, she's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: just like a Bravo person or whatever. When I'm like,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I was a stand-up first. I am a stand-up. If
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you see my stand-up, it's not about Housewives.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: It's legit.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: I knew you before.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a legit stand-up life. In just creating my podcast,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I just was like, oh, I like imitating these girls
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm interested in it. I love it. I'm not
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: going to not do it because it does really interest me.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like, so I kind of can
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: relate to why Morgan's like, Or even when like Matt Rife,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: who's a comedian, was like, he was so good looking
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: and he basically said like, you know, I know I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: have a big female audience, but I also have a
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: lot of guys who think I'm funny or whatever he said.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And then they wrote articles of like, you're shitting on
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: your female audience. It wasn't that. It's just like. I
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: We all have that feeling of like we want to
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: be known as something, but everyone knows us for something different.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Some people know me for Diddy Stories. Some people know me. Oh,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: that's the housewives guy.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it's what we say
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: to ourselves.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: We can't care about, yes, our peers. Do we want
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: them to respect us? Yes, but at the end of
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: the day, they're not paying your bills.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Right. Okay. Or even sometimes when I ask someone to
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: come on the show and they're like, But I don't
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: follow Housewives. And I'm like, no, that's not what the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: show's gonna be. I wanted to get your whole life story. Like,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this, this, and this. So sometimes
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: now when I, if I write something I have to say, like,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the show is not just about Housewives. It's also not
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: just stand-up. Like, I find this, or just comedy. Like,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I find you interesting. And then other times I'm like, oh,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: who cares? No, come on.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: But I'm glad you mentioned that because I think there
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: are a lot of people that will watch this.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Relate to it, especially other people that do what we do.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: And feel, oh, yeah, I feel the same way, Heather.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be known as one particular thing.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it only matters what
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: you say about yourself.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Who cares about the rest of the world?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: And so Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Oof.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I'm super fascinated by the Bronwyn situation.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's an ugly outfit.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: And horrible eye makeup. I will never, I mean, that
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is a clown outfit.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: And that's a hard 39.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I will never understand why people do that one draw line,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: like that trend, that Julia Fox trend is an awful trend.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Is she still around?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Not really.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: But that took a minute.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: She took that two days with Kanye and she ran
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: with it. I was so tired.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then came back again. I was used. But
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: we never slept together. I'm like, oh, God, it's fine. Bronwyn.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: But Bronwyn is, there's some cool things about her, but
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the thing that fascinates me is her marriage to this guy, Todd.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Todd's father.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: And it's very reminiscent of Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: when she was like, there's a scene he's talking to
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Lisa Vanderpump, and Lisa Vanderpump's, you know, very interested in
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: hearing what he has to say. And he says something,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and then she just sort of, like, adds to it.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: But to certain men, it's like they see that as, like,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: you're interrupting, and he's like, Erica! And, you know, it's like, oh,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And so it feels like so
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Daughter Daddy, like so Daughter Daddy, where it's like the
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: tension that she feels... I mean, I know when they
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: met this couple, when they saw the dynamic, those producers
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: were like peeing in their pants with excitement. And I
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: really think what happened was she, you know, wanted to
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: do it. He wants to give her what she wants,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: whether it's a $ 4 million necklace, which I'm really curious,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: did she really keep that $ 4 million necklace? Or, you know,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: anything like that. Or this, I want to be on
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: this housewife show. And she probably convinced him. This will
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: be great. He probably didn't do all the research he
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: should have done. He should have spent a weekend watching
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: all of them.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: He didn't do any research, Heather. No, he's probably like, okay.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, just as long as you don't
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: fight like that. I don't want that. And then when
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: she has this scene where she then has to fight
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: because that's a show and you see her and he's like,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: in all our years together, you've never behaved like that.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: And to be honest, yeah. And to be honest, it's
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: just very unbecoming, which is just like such a humiliating word.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Like that was very unbecoming of you as a lady.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Like you just look like trash. And then she's like, Todd,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I just, well, this is the way these women speak
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and I have to match that. Like she's basically saying,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: if I don't bring it and act like a screaming asshole,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: then what was the point of me being on the
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: show anyway?
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: He didn't know that.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, the whole point is, You want
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to be famous, which is fine. You, you know, you're like,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: let's see what will happen with this. But also in
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: every housewives back of their mind, it's like, well, if
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, I can do something other than
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: work at Nordstrom. Yeah. I can have a glamorous life.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I can be elevated. I can be part of this
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: elite group of people, you know, and.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Well, we need to let Bronwyn know that that's not true.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: She doesn't have to work at Nordstrom's, but if you
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: think you're going to spin this into a money-making career.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: That ship has sailed.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: The ship has sailed in this franchise.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. That's why I honestly believe
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: the Todd father is not going to allow her to
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: come back next season.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's either that or it'll come to heads and
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: they will break up because she'll say, no, I'm not
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: giving this up. Remember that one of my favorite scenes
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: is in the made-for-TV movie about Sarah Palin when she
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: was running for vice president? Mm-hmm. And Julianne Moore played
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: her and she goes out and she gets all the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: love from the, you know, and then she's like, comes
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: back and she goes, we got to win this thing.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: There's no way I'm going back to Alaska. And it
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: was just like, it was so like, I feel like
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the minute they get a little taste of this, even
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: though some of it's hard, even though it's hard, they're
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: seeing mean things and they're cast. It's a taste of like,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Where they're like, well, I'm not giving this up just
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: so I can shop and cater to Todd. I've already
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: done that for 18 years.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: No, 10.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, they only been together 10? Okay, 10. But, oh,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: my God, in the moment also when she talks about
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: her daughter meeting the grandparents. And, you know, he, again,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't want that being talked about because he is like,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I've paid for your daughter, not these grandparents that she
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: hasn't seen. And so then he was like, that's enough.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: We're done.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: And then she's just like, oh. And then she's always like, oh, hey, cutie.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And he's like.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: It's very crotchety, very old, very rich.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: And he's just like, yeah, we agreed this wasn't going
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: to be what it was going to be. Well, she
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: can't control that.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: No, I think he went on that trip thinking that
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: it was going to be one of their regular trips,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: not realizing that they were producing reality television.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: And Lisa knows what she's supposed to do. They're all,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: especially on Salt Lake City, are caricatures of themselves.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: So Lisa knows that this is what we do. But
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: when Lisa was told, we're going to send you home.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: By the Todd father. You notice how Lisa was completely different.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: She was like, hey, Bronwyn. I have a love for Bronwyn.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also think that, especially on Salt Lake,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: because I talked to a waiter recently. who was at
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: one of these table scenes last year. And they do
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: redo stuff. They do have them come in, allegedly, and
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: be like, you need to re-ask that question. It's more
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: than other shows. And so I feel like when they're
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: at that table, bringing up, you said this on a podcast,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: that's our beef. Well, you said this on this podcast,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: that's our beef. That's our beef, that's our beef. Those
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: are the scenes that are filmed. And then it's almost like,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: We did our work. Now we can have some drinks
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and play pool and jump in the jacuzzi. So then
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: you see them kind of having fun because they're like, oh,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: we clocked out. Even though the camera's still on us,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: essentially we've clocked out.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Those are the real moments.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the audience is just starting to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: see like, really? This is it? But I find Salt
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Lake very entertaining. At least I'm entertained by them. I'm
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: entertained by OC and I'm entertained by Beverly Hills.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: OC.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: So this is like a golden... time for me to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: like enjoy what's on TV right now.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah OC is bringing it this was like their best
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: season I'm not a huge OC fan but I've been
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: watching it the last three seasons and I was like
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: this season was so good from beginning and it's not
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: because I'm in it beginning from the first episode to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: the reunion you hear my voice Oh, what did you say?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: What did I say? Something about Shannon Woodward's DUI.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, driving into a house. I thought that was you.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, who is that? How do I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: know that voice? Okay, yeah.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: So it's not because of that. It's because it's really
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: been a good season. I'm loving Jennifer. I like Katie,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: and I like that Katie and Jennifer have a good relationship.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: But what I don't like is that we've seen a
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: pattern of lies with Katie, and I'm just like, ooh, Katie,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I'm rooting for you, but. There's something there with Katie that.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I think with Katie, this new girl, I think there's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: something very dark that happened in her previous marriage that for...
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: You know, she didn't share it with the producers and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: she didn't want to share it. Maybe it's a legal
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: reason or whatever. And I think if she comes back,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: she will be a little more forthcoming with it. And
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: she should because that is what will... make the audience
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: now trust her and like her. But again, she has
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: minor kids with this ex, and if she doesn't want
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: to share it ever, then she also doesn't have to.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: But then she also has to risk people being like, well,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: why was this untrue and this untrue? And it's like, well,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: maybe I was covering up something that, yeah, I think
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: they should all come back.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: It was a good season. A good season, good cast. Tamara, oh, God.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: She's very quiet during this reunion. She's very quiet.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I just saw a clip because she was at, I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: just hosted the American Reality TV Awards. And she was
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: there and she presented. And she was on the red carpet.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: And she said this before, that in filming it, she
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't worried. She thought, she wasn't worried that the audience
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be on her side at all. And now in
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: watching it back, like she somewhat can understand it, but yeah,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: the way it is, you know, it can be, we
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: saw what we saw. So edit it or not. We
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: saw it. And I think the audience just really felt
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: like we know she had a bad night. We know
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Shannon Medora had a bad night. It was the worst
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: night of her life. She got a DUI, got an accident.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: So if there is anything of her behaving poorly right
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: before that, the supposed video, we believe you. We don't
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: need to see it. We believe it was bad. You know,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: we've seen her on the show waving her hands around
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and everything. So, like, of course, on her worst night
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: when she's, like, somewhat broken up with her boyfriend and wasted,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: of course she's going to go to his house and
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: probably make a scene and make an ass of herself.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: And I think with him, he was kind of saying....
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Johnny J.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Johnny J. I think he was, I think this is
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: where it got screwed up, is that I think he
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my God, you know, all these things,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I have this awful reputation. She has said these things,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: not on camera, but to the other cast members who
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: then relay it on camera. He doesn't pay for things.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: He says mean things to her or whatever.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: I believe it all.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: And his side is, he doesn't believe, he says no, right?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: So then when this whole thing goes down and another
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: part comes out where it's like, oh, I think that
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: he heard my accent and didn't even bother to come down,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: which was then said on a podcast. I think then
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: he was like, oh my God, you know, I have
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: videotapes of her acting horribly. I don't think he ever
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to show them to people. I
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: think he was just like, I have them. And then,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: and then Alexis then says it on camera, like, I'm
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: sick of all everyone thinking we're awful. And I think
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: it was almost like we have the videotapes. He has videotapes,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: but he won't share. Like he's not going to share them,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: but he has them. But the way it got to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: the audience, it felt like a blackmail thing.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like extortion.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I think almost like he put it out there or
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: she put it out there to like pat them on
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the back to say, but we're not sharing them. Aren't
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: we great that we're not sharing them?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: They recently settled their lawsuit finally. So I'm assuming he
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: probably signed that NDA that she wanted.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: So now she, Shannon said, I will not film with
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Alexis no matter what.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think Alexis is coming back.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: And I think, and it feels like Emily is really
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: fighting for her not to come back. If you see
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the preview of tonight's thing. And, really going hardcore. She's like,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you know what? You know what, Jen? You, this thing
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: over here, every trash can has a lid and you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: need to know as an attorney that you need to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: pay your bills. And you, why is it that it's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: okay that you be friends with her? And then Jen's like, well,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: then why are you friends with Tamra? Like Tamra's awful too.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm just saying it's not mean girl behavior.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Even Shane knows I'm not a mean girl. And can
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I have a special martini? Like, it's just like, she's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: just like, she's like screaming through the whole thing. And
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that, I think that they would
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: like Alexis and John to come back. And I think
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the only way they'll come back is if they stronghold
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Shannon and say, are you really going to give up
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: this million dollars or whatever we're offering you? But then
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I also hear a lot of their salaries may, go
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: down regardless of their performance, just because the whole, you know.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: The ratings are down.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think for them, maybe not. But, you know,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: but Shannon is the star of the show, and she's,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: not just because of her tragic life, but she is,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: she has all the things. She has a tragic life.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: She has an ex-husband and an ex-boyfriend. She has, she's funny.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: And she shows up. She's pretty.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: She shows up. She's authentic. And, you know, and when she.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, she'll show up and then she'll walk away.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: And she's vulnerable. Yeah, and she's vulnerable. So it's like,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: so whatever happens with her, you know, even if she
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: had a super happy season next season and, you know,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: it's still going to be entertaining to see her, you know,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: be like, Tamara, Tamara was my friend. And clearly this
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: is not a friend. And at certain points I need
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: to have boundaries. And we'll still love it. So like,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: The only thing is, can they can they make her
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: think that that she wouldn't be asked back if she
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't play nice that's that's the thing i think it's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: going to be really interesting yeah but i think as
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: an audience yeah um i.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Want to see them all come back i mean i'm
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: open to all i think alexis i know the way
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: that she is perceived on the show no one likes
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: her rightfully so because she became his mouthpiece johnny jay's
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: mouthpiece But when she wasn't talking about Shannon, when they
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: went to Big Bear and they were having that little
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: girls trip, I was like, Alexis is actually kooky and funny.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: It's an easy target to make fun of, too.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: And also the other girls have said, you know, in
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: times where they're not filming and like Katie lost her
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: father-in-law or whatever, Alexis is like that friend that actually
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: does call.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Send something to your house is like, can I come
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: over with the casserole? She actually is that person. So
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, I think it would be interesting to see it,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: you know? And I think they would have brought, they
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: would have even maybe brought her back. Had she not
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: been dating Johnny, she says that they were talking to her. Oh,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you know what Jen said recently, the new girl, Jen,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: she said when she was with her husband, that they
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: went through the process. Yes. And, She never shared we're
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: having problems because they they appear not to to the,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: you know, outside world. And then tuning it picked basically
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: are too boring. She's like, OK, the husband was down
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: because he's like, oh, you maybe do this stupid yoga
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: thing could like make some money if you're on TV
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: to do it. So I don't want to say stupid, but,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: you know, a yoga studio is not a big moneymaker
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: unless it has some type of notoriety like. you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Billy Blanks or whatever, like workout. So then anyway, so
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: then she said, then out of the blue, the casting
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: director called her and right when Tamara was coming back.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: And one thing Tamara is, is she is a producer's darling.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: She gets an A plus in the class. She is
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: a star pupil. She will deliver the moments. And she,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sure in my opinion, Called the producers and was like,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I know this girl. You guys interviewed her a couple
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: years ago. Oh, God, Tamara, she was so boring. No, listen.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: She's getting a divorce. She's dating this guy who has
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: kind of a questionable reputation around town. And, you know,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: and he's attractive, too. And he's a thirst bucket. He'll
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: want to be on TV. I'm telling you, this is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: like golden. So then she gets a call out of
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the blue. And she was like, wait, you guys are
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: interested in me again? Well, I don't think you will
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: be now. Like, she's so innocent. Because my life's gone
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: to shit. I'm getting divorced. He's dating my ex-best friend.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I'm dating this guy from the gym. And the girl
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: goes to her, oh, well, okay, well, you know, hope
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: you're doing okay. And she goes, and not less than
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes later, they're like, yeah, we're interested. And then
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Tamara goes, listen, they're interested, but what's going to really
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: help seal the deal is I told them that the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: four of us are like best friends. And we go
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: out to dinner all the time and Eddie and Ryan,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: like whatever, work out and men stuff together. And like,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: this could be great. So then she gets on the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: show and that's why the first season she was like
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: so confused because she thought this was her good friend.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: who then would act one way when the cameras weren't there,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and then when they were together, she's like chucking a
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: napkin in her face out of nowhere.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: That is so disrespectful.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: She's like, am I the Twilight Zone? Oh, no, I'm
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: just on a Bravo reality TV show.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: And you're dealing with Tamara Judge.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: But we ended up falling in love with Jennifer.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: I'll speak for myself.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I like her.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: She's so likable. She's so herself, which I appreciate.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: They came to my show in Irvine with Alexis and John.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: And Katie. And I will say Alexis was really nice.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: She posted about the show. She came right backstage. She
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: was not taking photos with everybody because I said, if
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: you want to say hi to me after, I need
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: you to do it right after the show because I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: have a next show. And I go, but I know
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: it's going to be hard because the audience is going
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: to want to talk to you and take photos with you.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: And in the past when I've invited housewives, that's been
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: the case and I don't blame them, but whatever. They
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: love the attention. How can you not?
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: She was like, no, I'm right at the door. Where's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: your son? We want to say hi to you. So
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I have to say there, there.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Is, maybe she had come in without the Johnny J portion.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like if this was just like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: a girl who lived in the neighborhood and ended up
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: dating an ex, like, you know, they never were on
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the show together. So if she just started dating somebody
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: that dated someone she knew in the neighborhood, like some people,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: some people like, okay, that's weird. But like, You know,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I have friends that are like in, you know, South
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Carolina or North Carolina. And they're like, you know, it
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: looks like a reality show. They're all attractive. They're all
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: on their second husband. They're all dating each other's people. Oh.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Because they're all like in the neighborhood and they're all
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: like of the same socioeconomic level.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: So when are we producing this reality show?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's good.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a minute.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Like I'm invested.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: That Lake Norman area. Oh!
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Housewives of Lake Norman. Come on!
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like I'm saying, if it wasn't a show,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that. But then with all this. But
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: it made for so entertaining for us.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: It saved Shannon this season.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: It distracted from... Honestly, she should really give them a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: gift basket. Oh, she did. $ 70, 000. Yes, yes. Because it
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: really made her situation, you know, she could literally be
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: dealing with the Karen Huger situation right now. Oh, and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: let's talk about that.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: Karen Huger, her second DUI.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: I can't deal with... Karen Huger, this is Potomac, and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: she is a six-year-old woman. She also got a DUI
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: in an accident, not with anybody else. Just like Shannon,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: nobody else. She didn't even have a dog in the car.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: And she talks about it with her cousin who she
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: was on the phone with, who I guess she was
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: on the phone again, while you're buzzed and talking on
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: the phone. And then... hit the car or hit the tree.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: She's never admitted to being buzzed, Heather.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And then she said, oh, it's because I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: was mourning the death of my mother who died in
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: 2018 or whatever it was.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: No, she's coming up with every excuse.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: It's her parents, her mom died, her father died, and
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: then her issues with Ray.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, but still.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: She's been under a lot of pressure, Heather.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry as someone who has lost my parents.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: sorry if you're of a certain age it's going to
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: happen it's going to happen i mean it's going to
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: happen and i'm sorry that it didn't work out the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: way you thought you know but like you're 60 years
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: old are we are you supposed to still have your
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: like like mom around i mean it's pretty rare if
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: you do and losing any parent is hard but i
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: think you cannot now if the parent had died you
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: know one week prior to the DUI, and she was
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: just like, I was coming back home from the hospital,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know, in a distraught space,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: and I hadn't really even dealt with anything. We just
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: got done planning the funeral, and I fucking just like,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: then everyone would be like, yes, you know, still horrible.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: But to then pull, to try to pull the sympathy card, like.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. I can understand being distracted because
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: of going through distress, but were you drinking, Karen?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Were you drinking? Were you under the influence of alcohol?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we'll know, you know.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, according to the reports, there was beer in
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: the car. She was, you know, not able to walk straight.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Beer was her mother's favorite.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Was her mother's favorite. And so you don't understand. It
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: was my mother's favorite. And I was looking at that
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: beer thinking... If only my mother was here, then Ray
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: would give me more attention. I don't know. It's just
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: like she is. But this is this show, you guys.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Potomac is so messy with this girl, Mia, who has
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: this older husband named Gordon.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: And she has a boyfriend. Don't forget about the boyfriend.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: She has this boyfriend named Ink, who she dated before
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: meeting Gordon, then met Gordon, got married to Gordon. and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: it gets out on last night that she then had
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: an affair with ink while they were married, got pregnant,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: terminated the pregnancy.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: And then she.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Did on, didn't know about it.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Apparently he just found out in this moment in the
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: kitchen and then got with him again because she believes
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: that one of her two children, no, she believes that.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: So the daughter, I guess she believes is, is Gordon's,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: but the son who's older than the daughter, She doesn't
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: know if it's Gordon or Inks.
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  Speaker 3: She says, because I think she did an IUI, so
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: she says she believes that that's the truth. But Gordon's
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: the one who did an interview and put it out
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: there that possibly- What's the truth?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Who's the dad of the boy?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: That Gordon is the father. But because Gordon put it
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: out there, she wants to do a paternity test.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: But she believes, Mia believes, that no, that is definitely
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Gordon's son.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Well, if we see then she does it and we
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: see it on the show and it hasn't been leaked
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: by a blogger because I don't know that we know
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: who the dad is, then her claim that Gordon has
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: bipolar mental disorder and he was a nightmare to be
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: married to, then I think we'll have a little more
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: sympathy for her. She comes off, though, like she's never
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: really out of control, though. She's pretty good on camera
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: as far as expressing herself saying her snarky things. Lying.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Lying and lying.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: We call her Mia. B.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Lying.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: That's what we call her.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: So you think she's lying a lot?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: She's lying a lot. Giselle did an interview. She was
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: doing a press junket while she was in New York.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Says that Mia has a lot to answer for at
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: the reunion because she has lied a lot during the season. Ashley,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: this week alone, says that Mia has a lot to
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: answer for at the reunion because some of the things
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: that play out during the season... her character is questionable.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: The fact that these OGs are saying this about Mia,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: we already know Mia lies a lot. If you're a
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: fan of the show, we know she lies. One thing
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: you can rely on her being consistent about is lying.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: So the fact that these folks are seemingly turning on
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: her before the reunion, I believe they're filming the reunion
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: this week, that's kind of interesting that they're turning on her.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering what plays out During the rest of season,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: I'm already cringing at the fact that she has her
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: boyfriend and her husband on the same show and the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: paternity is being questioned. The kids are in the other room.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: They can clearly hear what's happening. So that already makes
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: me go.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: I wonder what happens during the season that makes the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: majority of the housewives turn on her, basically.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: OK, before we go, can you just explain to the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: audience to remind them? what happened on Real Housewives of
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Atlanta with Kenya because she just did a Tamron Hall show. Yes.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: And just give the cliff note version of what happened
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: to remind everybody because it was pretty crazy.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: So this was at the top of their new season,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: Sweet 16.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: So we have not seen it yet.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: We have not seen it yet. I'm hearing the top
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: of 2025 is when we'll get Atlanta. Right now we
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: have five shows on at the same time. It's a lot.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: But it's a lot. But Kenya was accused at the
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: time of putting up poster boards of Brittany Eadie, the newbie.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: And one of those poster boards had Brittany with something
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: in her mouth of the male persuasion private area. And
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Kenya denied that she was involved in revenge porn. And
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: she says, Bravo never investigated me for that. An organization
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: is not going to investigate you for revenge porn. They're
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: going to investigate if you've violated their code of conduct.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: And according to, I think it was the exclusive from lovebscott.com,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: that they got the information. That wasn't what she was
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: let go for. She said that she wasn't fired. They
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: decided to mutually part ways.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Mid-season.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: At the top of the season. And when I was
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: doing my live show in Atlanta, people were spilling tea
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: that were there. They confirmed that, yes, this is exactly
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: what Kenya did at her own spa event. Now Kenya
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: has confirmed that this is what she did.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: So she's doing a thing like here's my hair and here's, oh,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: where did this come from?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: Poster board. She went to Kinko's and got it printed.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even like on a slideshow.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: No, it was a poster board.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. It was a poster board. That's a lot
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: of effort.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: That's a lot. And it's funny because when she was
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: on Tamron Hall, it's almost like she took a little
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: accountability and then she sort of was like, I had
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: a lot more that I could have shared. And giggled.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: And I was like, wait a minute. What is happening
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: And then she basically said, her excuse was, what you
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: don't realize is I felt I was being attacked by
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: this woman. And I didn't feel safe. So no, it's
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: not okay that I did this. But I did it
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: because I'm a mother. And since I've become a mother,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: I was feeling extra vulnerable. And that's why I lashed
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: out with this thing. And it's like, You're going to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: pull the mother card. Like, you gave birth at, like,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: 50 years old. You're 53. The girl is three or four. Like, again,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: you know, just like Karen, we're not going to feel
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: sorry for you that your mom died five years ago
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: when you were 60. And I'm not going to feel
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: sorry for you.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: She also used her mom card, too, in regards to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: her mother basically disowned her when she was a baby.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: She was raised by her grandmother.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, she brought that up?
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: She brought that up on Tamron Hall as well. I
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: just wish she would have just owned it. She really
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: ruined this opportunity because she was given the opportunity to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: come back, according to my sources.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: And then she did the fake crying. Like, my child.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Your child was not in jeopardy. Your child was at preschool.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Your child had nothing to do with your child. And
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: you know what? There's a lot of single mothers out there.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: And you're on a show. And you have so much privilege.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: And you've been on the show for so long. You know,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: gorgeous and everything else.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: And they didn't want to bring her back, allegedly. They
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: didn't want to bring her back this last season. And
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: then she did this and fucked it up.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: She ruined that relationship.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: But I feel like, but you know what? Bravo forgives
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: people all the time. Faithless comeback. She will come back, too,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: if the show continues.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what she was doing this week
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: in regards to sort of like, I talk to Andy
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: Cohen all the time. You know, that's my family. I
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: think there were rumors that she was going to sue
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: them because of, you know, the suspension issue. But I
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: think she's backtracking on that because she.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Realized— When people say that Andy's their family, if Andy
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: was to invite four housewives to his Thanksgiving dinner with
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: his two kids and his parents, in your opinion, he
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: had to. He had to. Otherwise, he would lose $ 10 million.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: He has to invite four housewives, past or present. Who
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: do you think he would choose?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I'll say mine first.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. Go ahead.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: I think you'd pick Erika Jayne just because he's like
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: her plus one would be a hot piece of ass.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: She would clearly have like some hot gay dancer. Okay.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Let me think. Not Kyle because he's sick of her crying.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: He also wants to have some fun. Tamara. Tamara because
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: he just will get like again like some snark. And
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: let me think. And then... Who's like a classic? Who
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: is a classic that he would also want there? I
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: feel like he doesn't like that many of them. Hold on.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: No, he doesn't.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: He really likes them. The London girl. The Dubai girl
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: that got fired.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, Caroline Stanbury.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd want her. And then he's going to also....
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: You asked me this question.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: This is hard. I just thought of it in the moment.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Which is perfect. Thanksgiving is next week.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Let me give you another one. Giselle.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: No one on this cast.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think Giselle. No?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: I think he would invite Robin over Giselle. Giselle's very sensitive.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: He said this during BravoCon that he had a joke.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you think who are your four now?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, my four would be NeNe, no matter what they've
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: gone through. Oh, you're right. No matter what they've gone through.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Because he knows it's a good time.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: He knows it's a good time.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to play by Giselle with NeNe. So
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: now mine are NeNe, Erika Jayne, Tamara, and what was
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: my other one that I said?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: What was the other one? OMG. Tamra.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Bronwyn. No, he's actually going to invite Bronwyn because he
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: wants some real wealth.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: He wants some real wealth, but he doesn't want her
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: to bring Todd. So it's Bronwyn, Erica Jane, Tamra, and NeNe. Okay.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Who do you think yours are?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: NeNe Leakes, definitely. Okay. Candy because they actually, I could
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: tell that they actually have good banter together.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: Teresa Giudice because she's going to bring some good food.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Good point.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, so NeNe Candy, even though that's going to be
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a fight. NeNe Candy, Teresa. Yeah.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of all the... New York.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Anyone from New New York?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: No, from New New York? No, none of them.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: He's trying to act like he likes somebody.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: He's probably changed his number so that they can't contact him.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: He's not inviting anyone. He'd probably invite Luann.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, he would want to invite Kathy just because.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: She's so entertaining.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: If she says yes.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: And she'd give some scoop.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: He'd be like, yeah.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: And she'll bring, like, the little girl Lucy, like, some
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: fabulous gift.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She'll come with, like, really good gifts.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: I could definitely see that. But then, you know, Kyle
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: would be very upset with him.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Now I'm going back with my four.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Erica Jane. I am going to go with the Teresa
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: and the food.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: Copycat over here.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: And then NeNe. I think you're right, but no candy.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Those are the four. That would make his Thanksgiving fun.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: I think Andy would agree with me. He would definitely
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: invite candy. I think despite everything that he's gone through
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: with NeNe, he would invite NeNe. Definitely Teresa because Teresa
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: is going to bring some good food. I feel like,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: let me just think. We have Salt Lake City, no
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: one on Salt Lake. Mary Cosby, maybe. He might invite
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Mary Cosby just for entertainment. Just for the weirdness. Yes,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: just for the entertainment. I think he does like Mary
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Cosby in a weird way.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: Or Chanel Ion. She would be a good time.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: That's it from Dubai.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, I had said the girl from Dubai. That's why.
• 1:27:51
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• 1:27:52
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• 1:28:00
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