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- 0:00Menopause happens in women, and no one says no but that's natural.
- 0:03That's bullshit.
- 0:04Your clinic is dealing with metapause and aging, females,
- 0:08and I want you to really give the audience some very specific things about this.
- 0:11The later a woman goes through menopause, the longer they generally tend to live.
- 0:16Why is it specifically that a woman should be looking for?
- 0:19Like before something happened, whether the few, the problem you've got to be really careful about.
- 0:24So we are here on the first episode of our rebranded podcast,
- 0:32Age Defiantly, formerly Performance Driven Living.
- 0:36And we're also in our new studio.
- 0:38If you notice things look different, this is home-based now, so we're excited about that.
- 0:42And I'm excited to have a guest with us today to talk about probably a topic
- 0:46that would be arguably pretty close to home for a lot of people.
- 0:51Probably not talked about much, to be honest with you,
- 0:53but for an aging community, a very important conversation for us to have.
- 0:57And I want to welcome Zach Vercarus, who's with me today,
- 1:01but wanted to have this conversation because you speak a lot about,
- 1:07I'll say, hormonal dysfunction as we age.
- 1:10And I intentionally use the word dysfunction, Zach, because I think,
- 1:15one of the subjects that I can't stand is when people talk about the phrase.
- 1:19I mean, anybody who listens to this podcast knows that there's three words I hate.
- 1:23And those are the three words at your age,
- 1:26because we have somehow as a society decided that decline is normal.
- 1:31And we've decided that there are points at life that degradation should just be normal
- 1:39and we should accept it.
- 1:40And my argument here on Age Defiantly, if that doesn't say enough,
- 1:45is that we don't need to accept that.
- 1:47That aging is, of course, chronological.
- 1:51And aging also has a physiological and biological component to it agreed.
- 1:57But the idea that we accept stuff way sooner than we absolutely should,
- 2:02that there is an opportunity for us to live abundantly way into our later life
- 2:09and not accept this rapid decline.
- 2:10I pulled some statistics while we were sitting here waiting.
- 2:13And this one, this actually makes me sad.
- 2:16So if this is anybody who's listening to this,
- 2:19only 70% of men remain sexually active in their 50s.
- 2:2430% of men aren't even sexually active after the Age of 50.
- 2:28Only 50 to 60% past 60.
- 2:32And only 30% of men are sexually active past 70.
- 2:37The mic, that's crazy to me.
- 2:39But it gets even weirder because for women, those numbers are even worse.
- 2:45That you're talking 60% of women are active sexually over 50, 40 to 50% over 60,
- 2:53and only 20-ish percent of women are sexually active over 70 years old.
- 2:57And a lot of that relates to levito, a lot of that relates to multiple other things.
- 3:01But you're the expert.
- 3:03You've recently written a book on longevity.
- 3:06You specialize in this type of hormonal and rejuvenation,
- 3:12I'll let you explain that to the audience.
- 3:14But talk to me about that because as we age, of course,
- 3:18that's something we take for granted when we're young.
- 3:20And then all of a sudden, it's not a problem until it's problem.
- 3:23Yeah, but very true.
- 3:24Okay, so first thing for your three words that you know at your age,
- 3:29my three words is I love Hakes'es.
- 3:31So it's okay.
- 3:32So, but basically the...
- 3:36Okay, thank you for that and very kind introduction.
- 3:39Yes, I've written a book and it's called The Three Laws of Longevity.
- 3:42And we can go into that later.
- 3:44But what we've done is as a group of people,
- 3:47we created come to your Austin biotech.
- 3:49And we looked at longevity.
- 3:51And like you say, we are victims of our own circumstance.
- 3:56We're told you must do this.
- 3:58This is what you must do as your act your age, behave this way.
- 4:02Even as a child, there's a very large tall child.
- 4:05So they'll say, I'd your age, Zachy, you know,
- 4:08when coming Zachy as I mean.
- 4:09And it was like I was so happy.
- 4:11And it would be like, but I am in many eight years old.
- 4:14It looked like I was 12, you know.
- 4:15So people make assumptions.
- 4:17And that's, you know, a viewpoint.
- 4:19And what we did is we looked at what causes what we felt was aging.
- 4:24Now, we have to look into things in context.
- 4:28Back in the day.
- 4:31Oh, a hundred years ago, even.
- 4:33The average lifespan was 65, 62.
- 4:37So you were basically done and dusted at 55, 6th dump.
- 4:42But also you didn't do as much education or as much,
- 4:46there wasn't as much to end many things to learn.
- 4:48Oh, no cell phones.
- 4:49There were no internet.
- 4:50There was no different types of things you had to learn,
- 4:53which you now have to learn.
- 4:54So it takes you longer to become an adult now.
- 4:57I mean, before you were having children at 16,
- 5:00a Kinsierra 15, if you were, you know, or, you know,
- 5:03those sort of coming of ages, now you're a child.
- 5:06So therefore, would it not stand to reason
- 5:08that you should therefore be adult longer as well?
- 5:12Well, that's not natural.
- 5:14I hear people say, well, that's not true.
- 5:16It's because what is natural?
- 5:18That's what we perceive it to be.
- 5:19So we looked at the bodily functions and what caused aging.
- 5:23And so not to try and live to 500.
- 5:26But just to sort of max out the 125.
- 5:29Just keep one to it.
- 5:30It's keep us simple.
- 5:30120 is hard to find.
- 5:31You're right.
- 5:32I think that's a very healthy age.
- 5:34It's a realistic number.
- 5:36It's not like flying to the moon and one
- 5:40leaping bound.
- 5:41It's realistic.
- 5:42It's achievable with what we have available to us today.
- 5:44I'm not saying it's easy, but it's achievable.
- 5:46I want to put a pin in that statement
- 5:48because I want to get back to so we go,
- 5:50oh, that, yeah, but go back.
- 5:52So so why don't we look at those?
- 5:54Okay, well, let's look at this logically.
- 5:56What happens?
- 5:56And so what happened was I was, you know,
- 5:58people asked me how I got into this.
- 6:00And to a question in the sense of,
- 6:02I was in my mid 40s.
- 6:04I was living, you know,
- 6:05the light was a beach,
- 6:07by my spiritual honor,
- 6:08the weather was surfing in the Philippines.
- 6:10I met my wife.
- 6:12She was 40.
- 6:14Bang, she has pregnant instantaneously.
- 6:16You know, of course.
- 6:18Like, oh, my God.
- 6:19You know, pregnant.
- 6:20And then someone said,
- 6:21well, that's unusual.
- 6:22You know, she's 40.
- 6:23And I, so what?
- 6:24What's the big deal?
- 6:25I'm worrying about this.
- 6:26And look 40.
- 6:27And Mr. Deliche, you look like,
- 6:28young girl, that's not the point.
- 6:29The part where she was.
- 6:31And then the doctor said,
- 6:31oh, you've got to check her for everythmic heartbeat.
- 6:33You've got to do this.
- 6:34You've got to do that.
- 6:35You've got to have, and I'm like,
- 6:36what are you guys talking about?
- 6:37You know, I have a background in myology.
- 6:39I'm like, you're nevering biologist.
- 6:41It's not like I didn't have the trainee.
- 6:43And we looked at it and we realized
- 6:44that a lot of people had problems.
- 6:46And it was about sexual function and reproduction.
- 6:50Now let's think about it.
- 6:51What makes you a man?
- 6:52Or what makes a woman a woman?
- 6:54It's basically the ability
- 6:56that you can then release or share your DNA
- 6:59to breed the next generation.
- 7:02So we looked at Dan and said,
- 7:03well, what is this issue?
- 7:05And, you know, suddenly we store that
- 7:09menopause happens in women.
- 7:11And then we say, so that's natural.
- 7:14More, really?
- 7:14And then we have another species that has menopause.
- 7:17Do you think has a bunch?
- 7:18They're curious to you.
- 7:18Would you have an idea?
- 7:20I don't.
- 7:20Would you say monkeys have menopause or pine?
- 7:23I'd say never would get the ton.
- 7:24I don't know the answer, right?
- 7:25I mean, I can look it up here.
- 7:26But sure, sure.
- 7:27But no, we just don't want you to think about it.
- 7:28So, sure.
- 7:29So fundamentally, the reality is
- 7:31there are only five species that have it.
- 7:32And the other four are all
- 7:34marine.
- 7:35They're whales, dolphins,
- 7:36killer whales,
- 7:37so on.
- 7:38So why don't apes have them?
- 7:40Why didn't gorillas or closest
- 7:41were related, you know, organisms have that?
- 7:44No one knows the answer.
- 7:45And let's go get into that.
- 7:46But the reality is
- 7:48often menopause women significant in the age
- 7:51and you gave me that stat
- 7:52about sexual function reproduction.
- 7:54That's directly linked to what we're talking about menopause.
- 7:56I had to apologize.
- 7:58I was not retinately linked.
- 7:58Not to say that.
- 8:00One of the things that, you know,
- 8:02and I'll say this is kind of crazy,
- 8:04because menopause,
- 8:06and I'm just, this is opinion only,
- 8:07that I'm speaking science at this point,
- 8:09this is opinion only,
- 8:10and that is as a man,
- 8:12I'm 50 years old,
- 8:14and testosterone is just the conversation
- 8:17amongst my friends.
- 8:18Like at what age do you get on testosterone?
- 8:20And I'm a big fan,
- 8:22partially just because I'm a muscle fan
- 8:24of keeping muscle mass,
- 8:27which longevity, muscle mass,
- 8:29so on, so forth all connected.
- 8:32But women don't.
- 8:33And there's been such this,
- 8:36I mean, menopause,
- 8:37you just kind of accept it.
- 8:38This is what happens.
- 8:39And then the goal is to get through it
- 8:41as quickly as possible
- 8:42with as little symptoms as possible.
- 8:44But I don't hear a lot of conversation.
- 8:46Maybe it is because I'm a man,
- 8:48but I don't hear a lot of conversation
- 8:50for women about how to prolong their,
- 8:52menstrual cycle,
- 8:53their menstrual cycle,
- 8:55and how to increase unless,
- 8:57because I do have a lot of friends
- 8:59who are in their, you know,
- 9:0030s and fours, you know,
- 9:02who still want to have children
- 9:04and never did,
- 9:05except 30, what is the age?
- 9:0735 is the cutoff,
- 9:09where we start calling a geriatric pregnancy.
- 9:11Yes, 35, 34, 35,
- 9:13which is frankly,
- 9:14pardon my friend,
- 9:16but I mean, 35, 35 years old,
- 9:18and we're calling a woman,
- 9:19I had a friend of mine,
- 9:20she got pregnant at 35, 36 years old,
- 9:23and like just went into a panic
- 9:26about this geriatric pregnancy.
- 9:29And then what am I going to do?
- 9:30Because it wasn't a planned pregnancy.
- 9:32And it was like, she had children before.
- 9:34She hadn't, right?
- 9:35That's what I'm saying,
- 9:36but the mother of my daughter,
- 9:37my wife, she,
- 9:37she'd never had children,
- 9:38she'd never even got pregnant before.
- 9:40Yeah, and then all of a sudden,
- 9:40just like that.
- 9:41And that was the,
- 9:42it's pointy if you had children as a young age
- 9:44and have them again,
- 9:46especially with the same partner,
- 9:47but to never have had children,
- 9:49and that to have it over the age of 34,
- 9:50things find,
- 9:51it's very interesting.
- 9:52Now, this is what I'm trying to say.
- 9:54These are things that we assume
- 9:56that nature is the most important,
- 9:58you know, is natural.
- 10:00The nature is the best compromise.
- 10:01If you're the last man standing
- 10:03after a cataclysmic event,
- 10:05you're the winner.
- 10:06Doesn't matter whether you're the strongest
- 10:07or the fastest or as mild,
- 10:09you just want because you survive.
- 10:11And that survival is survival of the fittest.
- 10:14There's all these phrases we hear about.
- 10:16So that's what it is.
- 10:17The answer thing with, with, with menopause,
- 10:19is that we assume this is natural.
- 10:21Now, what's interesting
- 10:23is the later a woman goes through menopause,
- 10:26the longer they generally tend to live.
- 10:29There's a very interesting substance
- 10:31that's statistic with this.
- 10:32And I can give you,
- 10:33let me just make sure I understood that correctly.
- 10:36The later a woman goes into menopause,
- 10:39the longer she will generally,
- 10:41but what is generally,
- 10:42but what definitely is very correlating,
- 10:46if she has children later in life,
- 10:50she will live longer.
- 10:53Now, I've got theories on that,
- 10:54but are not biological.
- 10:55But yeah, there might be a reason
- 10:56that the socioeconomic is the number of other reason,
- 10:58but that, which I agree with.
- 11:00So you've got to be very careful with stats.
- 11:01And by the way, menopause do seem to,
- 11:03but one thing she's stopping with men,
- 11:05menopause.
- 11:06It's nothing to do with that.
- 11:07It's to do with mencise,
- 11:08or the blessing word from month,
- 11:09pausing the monthly cycle.
- 11:11That's what menopause me.
- 11:12Yes, literally,
- 11:13yes, 12 months without menstruation.
- 11:14Yes, exactly right.
- 11:15That means your menopause,
- 11:17but before that,
- 11:18your perimenopause.
- 11:18Exactly.
- 11:20Wheat.
- 11:20So that's what it means.
- 11:21It's not time to do it, men.
- 11:22Every year, it's just a fire.
- 11:24So the thing is, we looked at this,
- 11:26and we'll wait a minute,
- 11:28because you're there for losing your fertility ability,
- 11:33the body says,
- 11:34well, you're not really needed,
- 11:35you don't need bone density,
- 11:37you don't need skinny elasticity,
- 11:39you don't need muscle mass,
- 11:42you don't need the hydration for the brain fog.
- 11:44So there's a whole thing your body starts to literally age
- 11:48at a rapid rate, the more rapid rate.
- 11:50I want to stop there for a quick second,
- 11:53because I want you to really get the audience
- 11:55some very specific things about this better.
- 11:58You said something,
- 11:59I'm a big fan of signaling,
- 12:01and that there's almost quantum experience
- 12:03that we create.
- 12:05It's this idea of psychonural immunology even.
- 12:08Yeah, that's my book, P&I.
- 12:10Yeah, and the P&I stance
- 12:12about how when a person believes something,
- 12:15physiologically your body reacts.
- 12:17This idea that your cells are age dropping
- 12:19and everything that's taking place in your body.
- 12:21And you said something there that makes me think about that,
- 12:23and that is this idea that once you hit a certain age
- 12:27and things physiologically may happen,
- 12:29we tend to put down the resistance towards aging,
- 12:32and then there's all this idea
- 12:34that I've heard so many statistics about,
- 12:36once a person hits 40 or hits 45,
- 12:38or whatever the number is,
- 12:39that whoever wants to put a tag on,
- 12:41like everything just starts falling apart.
- 12:43And then the problem is,
- 12:44is you told me at 40,
- 12:46everything I hit, I turned 50 last year,
- 12:49like six months ago,
- 12:50and I ended up having a couple injuries,
- 12:52I got sick right after I turned 50,
- 12:53like these things happen.
- 12:55And it was funny,
- 12:56because like several people said to me,
- 12:58you know what, that's what happens.
- 12:59And I'm like,
- 13:00I call bullshit on that.
- 13:01Bullshit, that is bullshit.
- 13:03Like, are you sure?
- 13:04Well, you turn 50,
- 13:05everything changes, and am I not?
- 13:06I call bullshit on that.
- 13:08Because me turning 50,
- 13:10I'm like, okay,
- 13:11I accept that I work harder now.
- 13:14I accept that I'm going to, you know,
- 13:17staying in physical condition
- 13:18is going to require for apps
- 13:19a little bit more intricacies
- 13:22than it did at 25.
- 13:23I accept that.
- 13:25That's very true.
- 13:26But what was your lifestyle, like a 25,
- 13:29to what you are?
- 13:30Now you run a company,
- 13:31you have responsibilities.
- 13:33Do you have those responsibilities at 25?
- 13:35Actually, yes,
- 13:36but different at the same time,
- 13:39I would say at 50 years old
- 13:40and probably healthier
- 13:41than I've ever been in my life,
- 13:43only because now I do have
- 13:45a very clear workout regimen.
- 13:46Now I do actually understand,
- 13:49like at 25 years old,
- 13:50I did know a fraction of the things
- 13:52that I know about.
- 13:53At 25, longevity was not a priority
- 13:55because I was never going to die.
- 13:57At 50,
- 13:58I'm thinking about longevity a lot.
- 14:00I understand the science
- 14:02of longevity at this point
- 14:05that I didn't that stressors,
- 14:07I understand that stressors can change.
- 14:09But I actually did all of business
- 14:10at 25 years old,
- 14:11aside from school and all the other things.
- 14:14It's a different type of shit-ass in life,
- 14:16so I wasn't a goofy college kid.
- 14:18Okay, okay, so I'll give you my time a bit older.
- 14:21I'm nearly 55.
- 14:22Right?
- 14:22So I'm five years older,
- 14:24four years older.
- 14:26So, although I'm in a longevity,
- 14:28so I should rather have time
- 14:29in my six decade.
- 14:30You know what I'd say?
- 14:32The rounded up.
- 14:32When I turned 40,
- 14:34I kept telling everybody,
- 14:35I can't believe a third of my life is a...
- 14:36Yeah, yeah, it's either way.
- 14:38People would think.
- 14:39Yeah, everybody was soppin' napkin' it.
- 14:40But yeah, exactly.
- 14:41Yeah, no, I'm closer to social security
- 14:44than I am younger than I should ever be.
- 14:47So, I also have another child
- 14:49who's season 26.
- 14:51So, I almost got groundhog day.
- 14:53I've got another daughter,
- 14:55I'm re-doing my life
- 14:56and there's interesting pictures I have,
- 14:58weird random of me playing the piano
- 15:00with both of my daughters,
- 15:02and I'm wearing the same t-shirt
- 15:04in both photographs,
- 15:0616 years apart, right?
- 15:08And there's another one
- 15:08where they're doing practicing on the pads.
- 15:10It was purely by accident.
- 15:12And they're both,
- 15:13they're both sort of similar coloring
- 15:16and blondly blue-eyed,
- 15:17but they're not,
- 15:18they're like, they're not,
- 15:19they're both exactly the same,
- 15:20but they're similar people, in that sense.
- 15:23And they're doing exactly the same actions.
- 15:24And I'm doing, I'm holding the pads
- 15:26and purely by chance,
- 15:28I didn't plan it,
- 15:29but, you know,
- 15:30literally a generation apart,
- 15:32certainly in the democratic uptowns,
- 15:33I'm holding the same pads,
- 15:34and you see me looking at these pictures
- 15:36and I don't really look that different, really.
- 15:39And I have the same energy I had back then,
- 15:42but the difference I have is experience.
- 15:44And the reason I say that
- 15:45is that yes, you have better recovery at 25,
- 15:49but also you have ignorance and ignorance is bliss, right?
- 15:53So you don't know any better.
- 15:54Well, I'll say this,
- 15:56Zach, and it is,
- 15:57I believe that we're used to,
- 15:59like, you know, when I have a new car,
- 16:00I don't expect to have problems with it, right?
- 16:03Like there's a warranty that comes along with that ignorance.
- 16:05And the warranty on the cars,
- 16:07because they just don't expect much to go wrong
- 16:09with some Amit's new.
- 16:10Over the course of 50 years,
- 16:11I've collected some injuries
- 16:13that are not natural phenomenon, right?
- 16:15They're injuries,
- 16:16there I heard something, I fell, I did whatever.
- 16:19Those types of things are gonna happen over 50 years,
- 16:21and they do lead to degradation, totally get it.
- 16:24But when it comes to something like,
- 16:27I didn't have an injury that lowered testosterone belt.
- 16:30Women are not having injuries
- 16:32that are pushing them into menopause, right?
- 16:33Like this is just part of the size you're not true.
- 16:35Well, perhaps our injuries that can,
- 16:37but I want to get into as we age, what is it?
- 16:41I want you to give me some specifics here for the listeners.
- 16:44Like, what is it specifically
- 16:46that a woman should be looking for?
- 16:48Like what are the things?
- 16:49Like before something happens,
- 16:51there's always something signals, right?
- 16:52But Sigzler, they're taking place doing it.
- 16:55Like what is it?
- 16:57Whether the few, one of the many ones is sleep, hydration.
- 17:01So sleeping well through the night,
- 17:03hydration, like, you know,
- 17:05the feeling of being dehydrated, you know,
- 17:09whether it's just in all over your feeling dry,
- 17:12and like a brain fog,
- 17:13and it depends,
- 17:14because obviously women act differently depending.
- 17:16Not all men act the same way,
- 17:18and they'll be certain tell these are set,
- 17:19yeah, I'll sign, hydration,
- 17:22issues with focusing eyesight, muscle mass,
- 17:25but you'll feel it.
- 17:26So it's not like,
- 17:27and these are our premenopausal,
- 17:29whether it's a perimenopausal,
- 17:30so you can get these sort of things that happen,
- 17:33and the little size,
- 17:34the problem you've got to be really careful about
- 17:36is freaking out about it, and over and over.
- 17:38Oh my God, what am I going to do?
- 17:40This is going to, you know, you've got to be really careful.
- 17:42So what we recommend is, you literally take a full test,
- 17:46we do it with a full analysis, for instance,
- 17:48and we do your gut biome, we do your DNA,
- 17:51we do your brain scan, we do a,
- 17:53but a density,
- 17:55and we do what we call the emotional,
- 17:57the fringe span of test,
- 17:58which is our second law,
- 18:00a hubel longevity,
- 18:01and we blend them together,
- 18:03and we give you a baseline,
- 18:04and gives you that baseline.
- 18:05Ideally, you should do that in,
- 18:08if you can do it in your 20s, great,
- 18:09during your 30s, you know, it doesn't matter,
- 18:11because you'd stop growing a 35,
- 18:12stop growing a 25,
- 18:14your stasis stuff 35,
- 18:15and after 35, you begin to die steadily and otherwise,
- 18:18although it's variable.
- 18:20So, so basically,
- 18:22you should do a test to have a baseline
- 18:24to know where you stand.
- 18:25So it's a bit like,
- 18:26when someone says to you,
- 18:28you're three words at your age,
- 18:30I'll do a test, say, for instance,
- 18:32or woman does a test,
- 18:33oh, how well can I do this?
- 18:35Oh, for your age, you're really good.
- 18:37That's bullshit.
- 18:39Because it's not for your age,
- 18:41it's relative to what you wear in a different age,
- 18:43it's for yourself internally.
- 18:45You've got to know your own past or baseline, you know?
- 18:49So you might be able to jump higher than I can,
- 18:51I might be able to run faster than you can.
- 18:53So if we compare each other,
- 18:54jumping and running,
- 18:55well, you're a better jumper than me.
- 18:57So you're better for your age.
- 18:59That's not what it's about.
- 19:00It's about how, that's the important thing.
- 19:02And so therefore,
- 19:03the earlier you can baseline who you are,
- 19:06the better it is.
- 19:07But so ideally, you want to look for these signs,
- 19:10but those are the signs.
- 19:12Sleep, hydration, brain fog, tiredness,
- 19:17like so not just steeply through the night,
- 19:18but blacking your energy,
- 19:21blacking focus,
- 19:22deciding, oh, you know what?
- 19:24And also there was being grumpy,
- 19:26libidos and other one, of course.
- 19:28But they're all connected.
- 19:30And the problem with this is you've got to have the baseline
- 19:33to work out their connectivity.
- 19:35You can do measurements,
- 19:36but you're measuring and doing a measurement in isolation
- 19:39doesn't make sense,
- 19:40just measuring your mitochondrial wall.
- 19:41So what?
- 19:42What does that mean?
- 19:43So you've got to look at those things.
- 19:45The other thing is also your lifestyle.
- 19:48You've got to then decide,
- 19:49well, what does my lifestyle like?
- 19:50What am I doing in this?
- 19:52In a, when you're 45,
- 19:54you might have a high stress job.
- 19:55We had one of our people come to us
- 19:59and has a very high stress job and has gone into any menopause.
- 20:03Now she's come back into menstrual cycle again
- 20:07without any of our stem cell procedures
- 20:10just by changing her mindset, her diet.
- 20:14What are the things that I'm curious about?
- 20:16So for men,
- 20:18but let's just talk men real quick.
- 20:19And I know we're talking about women's health here,
- 20:21but we're too men having this conversation.
- 20:24Or I wish it's not there.
- 20:25I like women for sure.
- 20:26Same, but the point is is that I do understand
- 20:29that too a lot of women's listening to men talk
- 20:31about sexual health of women is obviously,
- 20:34you know, there's kind of a yet good luck
- 20:36having that conversation.
- 20:37Yeah.
- 20:38So who do you publish in this?
- 20:40He's a friend and his partner,
- 20:43she's a vaginal surgeon that kind of makes me laugh
- 20:45because Shari has a book and they laugh about the book
- 20:48because the book, and on this cover, it says,
- 20:51and you know, a complete list of everything a man knows
- 20:53about the vagina.
- 20:54And you know, you open the book.
- 20:56I'm not, but that literally in entire page
- 20:57or is it a book of blank page affected?
- 20:59Yeah, that's kind of funny.
- 21:01So that's not lost, Joe, if you're watching.
- 21:03Yeah, that's funny.
- 21:04That's right.
- 21:06So that's not lost on me, but I want to give the example.
- 21:09So for men, when it relates to testosterone,
- 21:11so something that we can relate to,
- 21:13and that is testosterone levels may increase,
- 21:15but free testosterone is a very different conversation
- 21:19that a lot of people don't pay attention to.
- 21:21And as we age, pardon the phrase,
- 21:24there is the SHBG, and that is the sexual hormone binding
- 21:30a lot of it, that ends up eating free testosterone.
- 21:35So our testosterone gets created, but then SHBG goes
- 21:38and eats that, and you ask testosterone.
- 21:41So while your production levels are high,
- 21:44your SHBG is so high that a lot of men end up
- 21:47with very little testosterone for that reason, right?
- 21:50So that's something that can very specifically be measured,
- 21:53though, we can measure as to that.
- 21:55How much SHBG you actually have, is it your body, will you?
- 21:58Right.
- 21:59And based on that, you're able to measure
- 22:01how much free testosterone a man has,
- 22:04and then do one of two things.
- 22:06Either you try to find a way to get rid of the SHBG
- 22:09in this history before you just overproduce
- 22:11a testosterone, but what, ideally, buzzes, right?
- 22:14And sometimes it's a matter of like,
- 22:15just push your testosterone production up to a 1,400
- 22:18and you're never gonna know the difference in women.
- 22:20What is the, what is the correlation to that exact thing?
- 22:24Because for men, there's this women that I go as 50 years old
- 22:29and not having any children myself.
- 22:31You know, I'll get female friends that are like,
- 22:32yeah, but you can have kids as long as you want.
- 22:34Like true, yes, I understand that.
- 22:37But for women, what is the comparison,
- 22:41exploring that sign right there?
- 22:43So first thing about Joe Polish and his vaginal surgeon,
- 22:45like it's a brilliant open book.
- 22:48I thought I understood about women until I started this thing
- 22:51and I realized I know nothing about women.
- 22:53They care, that's what I realized, full disclosure.
- 22:55That being said, the vagina isn't everything about a woman,
- 22:59right?
- 23:00Just a lot of other systems that we have are the similar, right?
- 23:02So in other words, in that area,
- 23:04the big area with women is about a very reproductive organ.
- 23:08It's not the vagina itself, but the ovaries.
- 23:11These are uterus, the, with men,
- 23:13it's the testes, the prostate.
- 23:15We have areas that produce these hormones
- 23:18and or other parts that are connected
- 23:21to the rest of the, what we call the endocrine system.
- 23:24So with women, it's about follicles within the ovaries
- 23:28that produce levels of estrogen
- 23:31as well as testosterone and progesterone, right?
- 23:33And also the adrenal glands, which we both have.
- 23:36So it's about the 60, 40 split
- 23:38with reproductive organs, uterus, ovaries
- 23:41and 40% adrenal glands.
- 23:44So what happens is when you go through menopause,
- 23:46that 60% is taken off the table, right?
- 23:49Straight away.
- 23:50So what you want to look for is you look for the,
- 23:53FSA to the follicle simulating hormone.
- 23:57As it goes up, it means your follicles are going down.
- 24:00So therefore you're, there's a sign that the estrogen
- 24:04is not being produced as well.
- 24:06Now, of course there's, there was what,
- 24:08what about this type of estrogen?
- 24:09It causes cancer.
- 24:10Well, there's different types of estrogen,
- 24:12there's estrogen, there's estrogen.
- 24:13E1, E2, E3, let's keep it very simple.
- 24:15E2 is the good one, right?
- 24:17Right, and then they have different views on different uses.
- 24:20So what we do is we see, and it's the one time,
- 24:25the only time women are less complicated than men.
- 24:30It's the one sign, right?
- 24:31With a form, we're going to get in here.
- 24:32We've got way more moving parts of them.
- 24:34Every woman listening to this is going to be like,
- 24:36yeah, okay, whatever, buddy.
- 24:37Yeah, okay, if the ones are playing that, yeah.
- 24:40So it means because everything that we do as men
- 24:44is concentrated, a lot of it's contributing to testes.
- 24:47And this is not my extra there,
- 24:49or this small panel, Zawas is an expert area,
- 24:51is another person we work with,
- 24:52but what I've seen is that everything is much more fluid
- 24:57because we produce sperm in a mutton fluid way with just women.
- 25:02It's broken out into the ovaries,
- 25:05and although they say you're given the set number of eggs,
- 25:08it's sort of not 100% true,
- 25:11but this keep it simple it is.
- 25:13So it's already, it's more spread out,
- 25:15so it's easier for us to find those places.
- 25:18So we can promote the ovaries,
- 25:20we can get the follicles back,
- 25:23which will then knock into the improvement of estrogen.
- 25:27So what we've had is, we've had a situation where,
- 25:31we've had women go through a procedure,
- 25:33and they have had a 38% increase in estrogen,
- 25:37indulges from their own eggs, from their own body,
- 25:4038% increase.
- 25:42In some cases, it may specification as much as 60%.
- 25:46That's huge.
- 25:47So it increase in estrogen production,
- 25:49explain this to me.
- 25:51So an increase in estrogen production I get.
- 25:54The menstruation, of course, is an egg.
- 25:58It's basically the estrogen you glen in the uterus was coming out.
- 26:02Yeah, yeah.
- 26:03But if you've got the limited number of eggs,
- 26:06you've got more than you'll ever use in your life.
- 26:08But break that down for me,
- 26:10because you're saying that a woman doesn't run out of eggs,
- 26:14she just stops menstruating.
- 26:16If you're saying that women will die with eggs still in their system,
- 26:20if interesting, because that's contrary to what I've ever been taught.
- 26:24But there's a limited number of eggs,
- 26:26and it's like, you run out.
- 26:28Well, you don't run out.
- 26:29You just stop that they're sitting in the ovaries,
- 26:31and they sit there.
- 26:31There's a study done where you can use Wharton's Jelly,
- 26:35and you can actually get a Metsuskin,
- 26:37or some form of stem cell that's not good into the technicalities.
- 26:41And it could differentiate or become an over an egg.
- 26:44So we could technically regrow eggs,
- 26:46or we can make skin cells into eggs.
- 26:47We can do that, right?
- 26:49So the body has, what I'm saying is the body has inside of it,
- 26:53the signaling systems, right?
- 26:56To actually keep you living a lot longer.
- 26:59And I think again, we've got to be careful not just to focus on hormones,
- 27:03and focus just on testosterone or estrogen,
- 27:06and that, because that is one aspect.
- 27:09But you're using your car analogy.
- 27:11That's just, I don't know, that's just the engine.
- 27:13It's not the brake, it's not the suspension.
- 27:16It's not the chassis.
- 27:18It's just one bit of the pistons, just say, right?
- 27:22So there's a lot more to it than that.
- 27:24But fundamentally, it's a really good signal, right?
- 27:27It's a really good signal and it helps you work out
- 27:29where those issues can be.
- 27:31So based on formal panels, right?
- 27:34Okay, so you're getting labs done,
- 27:36a woman wants to know where she is in this process,
- 27:38just as Amanda's, and I get my labs done every six months.
- 27:42And every six months, I just do full panels,
- 27:45including everything from mineral, heavy metal levels.
- 27:50Yes, you, you know, to hormone panels
- 27:54to just see where things are.
- 27:55So from an endocrine dysfunction standpoint,
- 27:58I know where I stand at all times,
- 28:00and then I know what behavioral things to change about that.
- 28:03Is there anything other than that that you recommend?
- 28:07Well, it is hormone panels enough.
- 28:08I mean, that's the question, no, it's not.
- 28:10But the thing is also there's a fine line.
- 28:12If you want to be really excessive
- 28:14and just have all these consequences like a lab rat,
- 28:16you've got to have a trade-offs, right?
- 28:18But what we do is when we do the full tests,
- 28:20we do bone density, we do brain scans,
- 28:25cat scans, not MRIs, cat scans are quick ones, right?
- 28:28And we know how to read those to show you
- 28:31why your neurons are fun,
- 28:33because when you go through menopause,
- 28:34your neurons function in a way.
- 28:36By the way, we have andropause.
- 28:37We see we're invincible,
- 28:38but we fell off a clip of a radio team with that.
- 28:41We just dig my inventory.
- 28:42Yeah, man, I could do that.
- 28:43That is like an other prairie.
- 28:45Yeah.
- 28:46We do gut biome, that's huge, massive.
- 28:49Yes.
- 28:49And people don't realize that you're some of your hormones
- 28:52or some of the things like serotonin,
- 28:54see, two percent of serotonin is produced by bacteria.
- 28:57Not, it's not even your body.
- 28:59It's a host in your body, correct, right?
- 29:01So, wait a minute.
- 29:02Oh, well, if you get the wrong,
- 29:03if you get a C-bow, you know,
- 29:04C-bow is excessive, sorry, excessive bacterial.
- 29:08It's C for excessive fungal stuff.
- 29:10That comes up into your wrong part of your alimentary connect.
- 29:13You've got 32 feet
- 29:14with something around the inventory canal
- 29:15from your throat to your anus,
- 29:18something that's crazy amount.
- 29:20And in each part of it,
- 29:22there's different bacteria that live there.
- 29:24And they go to the wrong area,
- 29:25you can hide your lane,
- 29:27and then everything goes wrong.
- 29:28Well, that's bacterial.
- 29:30And you've got to measuring that regularly,
- 29:32really regular, more than people realize.
- 29:34But I would have commented on that
- 29:36and say this because this absolutely infuriates me
- 29:40about the medical community.
- 29:41I'm thrilled that pedicillin exists.
- 29:45I'm very happy that we have antibiotics.
- 29:49I'm furious at how much we pass them around.
- 29:52Yes.
- 29:53Like, it is like every single person in town,
- 29:57you know, my aunt, I love her dearly,
- 29:59but it doesn't matter what's wrong,
- 30:01her recommendation to ever you need
- 30:03to go get an antibiotic for that.
- 30:05And I'm not making that as an indictment on her.
- 30:07I'm saying is that's clearly
- 30:09she's a product of what she believes
- 30:11and what she's been taught over the course of her life.
- 30:14Yes.
- 30:14Like, she gets a sinus infection
- 30:16and immediately wants an antibiotic.
- 30:17Who am I?
- 30:18But that's probably not a bacteria infection.
- 30:21Like a sinus infection is typically viral,
- 30:23but an antibiotic's doing nothing for you.
- 30:25I'll be the secondary infection.
- 30:26That's what we're going to avoid
- 30:28because that's how they go around it.
- 30:29But the problem is is all you're doing
- 30:30is just setting up nuclear bombs in your gut all the time.
- 30:33And now you're six months trying to rebuild a microbiome
- 30:36if you're doing it intentionally.
- 30:39So this is a very valid point.
- 30:41So this is the thing is I,
- 30:43so we look a gut biome
- 30:44and then the other thing we obviously do
- 30:46is the basic hormone positive.
- 30:48The other thing we do is emotional health.
- 30:51So we call it the phoenix banditae.
- 30:52So you do like, it's qualitative.
- 30:55How do you feel?
- 30:56How the things work out?
- 30:57You know, it's all so full.
- 30:59So my wife passed away.
- 31:02And so in that point my hair fell out
- 31:05and I actually just only,
- 31:07what started to fall out, I actually grew it long.
- 31:09I actually cut it about two days ago.
- 31:11Literally I had the long,
- 31:12down the middle of my throat
- 31:13and I was cutting like that.
- 31:15And I just did it after two years.
- 31:16I decided that was it, two and a half years.
- 31:18So why did I have a physical reaction
- 31:24to an emotional response to a traumatic effect?
- 31:27It was what, how are we going to explain to my,
- 31:29you know, there was a sudden unexpected,
- 31:31it was so on, so well,
- 31:32that it was also the fact is that, you know,
- 31:35we had a child.
- 31:36I don't explain to our daughter, you know.
- 31:38You know, logically thinking is that
- 31:42how do you deal with that?
- 31:43So I had a physical reaction to emotional response.
- 31:47That's the thing that as humans,
- 31:49we ignore at our peril.
- 31:51Yes.
- 31:52We are not machines, we're not terminators,
- 31:54we humans, and that's how it is.
- 31:56And you have to accept that,
- 31:58all go and download yourself onto the grid
- 32:00or something, you know what I mean?
- 32:01Because this is what you are.
- 32:04And so these are measurements that you have to look at.
- 32:06And those are the markers.
- 32:08And it can be, it doesn't have to be super crazy.
- 32:11But just during your blood panels,
- 32:12your hormone panels in isolation
- 32:14is not good enough in my opinion.
- 32:16Now, bone density doesn't have to be done every six,
- 32:19once you can do it every year.
- 32:20And if you have naturally good bones, it's okay, right?
- 32:23So you've done your bones,
- 32:24you've got good bone density, fine, you know.
- 32:27I want to go back to the psychological side of things
- 32:29that you're talking about.
- 32:30Again, a lot of this gets back to that PNI,
- 32:32that's psycho neural, let me know what you could have
- 32:33flee, should I not be?
- 32:35The Freudian, I was really curious.
- 32:36Interestingly enough, and I love this.
- 32:39It's, every conversation I have, you don't know me,
- 32:42but every conversation I had always has to get
- 32:44into all sides of things.
- 32:46Like we are a physical, we are a psychological,
- 32:49and we are a spiritual being.
- 32:51And all three of those things lie in intersection.
- 32:54And the, the, so I thought a little,
- 32:57but the acts of isolation, that Venn diagram,
- 33:00where, where we live in the center of all of those things.
- 33:03And yet we create sciences that touch one
- 33:06or the other eye load, and they're whatever
- 33:08you design, shall meet, right?
- 33:10Yes, and if, and we create doctors
- 33:13who only understand for physiological,
- 33:14and we create psychologists who only deal
- 33:16with the emotional, and we have theologians
- 33:18who deal with the spiritual, and yet quite often,
- 33:21and again, you don't know this about me,
- 33:23but yes, I have a master's degree in theology,
- 33:25I have a master's degree in clinical psychology,
- 33:26I have a PhD in functional medicine.
- 33:29But, and I laughingly say, who cares?
- 33:31Because the reality is, is like, all of it
- 33:34exists and harmonizes, and when it's in disharmonies,
- 33:37when we end up with so much dysfunction,
- 33:39and the dysfunction can manifest physiologically,
- 33:43and the dysfunction can manifest psychologically,
- 33:45and the dysfunction can manifest spiritually.
- 33:48Like, all of this happens, usually all of it,
- 33:52and yet we treat it in isolation.
- 33:55And treating it in isolation doesn't resolve
- 33:59the conflict that's taking place holistically, yes.
- 34:02When you talk about this stuff,
- 34:04and I love the fact that you're saying
- 34:05your clinic is dealing with metapause,
- 34:07and you're dealing with aging females
- 34:10and ignoring some of this,
- 34:11and I think any woman listening to this conversation,
- 34:14there needs to be, when a woman's going to metapause
- 34:16and having metaposal symptoms, you know,
- 34:18being discarded as having just a physiological experience,
- 34:22will probably get you murdered,
- 34:24and the reality is, is like, it's a very emotional thing.
- 34:27It's a, you've mentioned earlier,
- 34:29I said I was gonna put a pin in something,
- 34:31and I'm gonna go back to that point.
- 34:33The point was that when women have children later in life,
- 34:36they tend to live longer.
- 34:38And what's interesting is, because my,
- 34:40well, sure, that doesn't surprise me,
- 34:41and I would love for you to unpack that physiologically,
- 34:45but emotionally and psychologically, it tells me
- 34:48that this woman realizes that she has a reason
- 34:51to be a reality in the world, very great,
- 34:53because there is a child that's rely as per,
- 34:57through the child's developmental period,
- 35:00and that woman can't slow down.
- 35:03A 40-year-old woman who has a child
- 35:05is an active parrot through 60.
- 35:09Yep, you know, I'm my grandmother,
- 35:11I say I'm the third grandchild
- 35:13to my grandmother's third child,
- 35:15and she was 40 when I was born, right?
- 35:18Because my family reproduces in the teenage years,
- 35:21and what's so funny to me, though,
- 35:24is that my grandmother at 40 was old.
- 35:29So it was essentially said,
- 35:30so my grandmother, I have her first child,
- 35:33when she was 44.
- 35:34So my grandmother was born in the 1800s,
- 35:37when now in 2026, right?
- 35:39And she had one child, one child,
- 35:42and grew up to be a healthy child, I mean, he was fine.
- 35:45So it was interesting, and she lived a very long time,
- 35:49but all of my grandfather's died
- 35:53of a freak case in pneumonia, weirdly enough, at 49,
- 35:57which is interesting, I woke up,
- 35:58put a pin on that one, I'll come back from that one.
- 36:00But the thing is, is that fundamentally,
- 36:03when you look at this,
- 36:05to the purpose is very key,
- 36:06if you look at the blue zones,
- 36:08you don't think, which we can discuss,
- 36:10whether we believe in all or not,
- 36:11but having family or from the blue zone,
- 36:13being able to agree,
- 36:13I could sort of talk with a bit of authority or something like that,
- 36:16but fundamentally, they all have same things,
- 36:18they have regular moderate exercise,
- 36:21a plant-based style of diet, or a varies,
- 36:25and this is very important, the varies,
- 36:26is there's not one size fits all,
- 36:28it's a few sizes fits nearly everywhere,
- 36:31but with the one thing they all have in common,
- 36:34purpose, or they believe social structure,
- 36:37and they believe it's something greater than themselves.
- 36:39Yeah, community, yeah, that's it,
- 36:41and they all have community,
- 36:42and that's some quote point,
- 36:43there's community, they do, they all have community,
- 36:45and there was this critical size.
- 36:46So when we talk about menopause,
- 36:49and the reason we chose that was purely from a sort of practical standpoint,
- 36:53it was like, what's the one who has to choose one shot
- 36:56that could make the biggest difference?
- 36:59It's that one, and that's why we don't work with men as much,
- 37:02because it's not so clear-cut with us.
- 37:04That's why I'm saying,
- 37:05it's the one time we're more complicated.
- 37:07You know, that's what I mean by that.
- 37:08So fundamentally, when you look at that, you go,
- 37:11okay, you have this area where it's this community,
- 37:14but it will slightly different,
- 37:16and so everyone has different reactions to different types of ways.
- 37:20So you have a different blood type,
- 37:21you have a different dietary requirements.
- 37:23So among say the Greek long libers,
- 37:25they have loads of sugar, loads more meat, right?
- 37:29The Costa Ricans have any smoked cigarettes.
- 37:31You know, so there's all these different dynamics.
- 37:33So they're not saying they're all chain-smoking,
- 37:36oh, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude,
- 37:38it's like culture, all the cultural childhood,
- 37:40they're teenagers, they're berry.
- 37:41So we all have these things that work for us,
- 37:43don't work for us.
- 37:44When we look at how people have come to us in our procedure,
- 37:47you know, we all thought, like with our ignorance
- 37:50at the time, five years, six years ago,
- 37:53that it was all physiological.
- 37:54Now what we've discussed with is,
- 37:56there's a lot of people come to us who have emotional trauma
- 37:59that manifests itself physiologically,
- 38:01and you can't just change that
- 38:03by doing an obstetroid shot or whatever,
- 38:05it doesn't matter, or taking a supplement,
- 38:07you've got to unwind what's in here,
- 38:08or what's in here, and that takes time.
- 38:11That's not a stem cell procedure.
- 38:13That is understanding your dynamic, your framework,
- 38:18and then from a position of strength and knowledge,
- 38:22you can then change the things that need to be changed for you,
- 38:25and not everyone's the same.
- 38:26You're a nice similar age group,
- 38:27you're a nice similarly fit, right?
- 38:29But what are different weaknesses in our chain?
- 38:32Well, you mentioned a great point there,
- 38:35and that is the emotional matching the physiological,
- 38:38you know, I'll touch on Vegas nerve stimulation, right?
- 38:41Like, this is all in my book, actually.
- 38:44I think the last idea of the mate is nerve,
- 38:46which some people may or may not understand
- 38:48is the master channel, if you will,
- 38:51that runs through all the way from the top to the bottom,
- 38:55and is the primary system for the gut's communication
- 38:58between the gut and the brain even,
- 39:00we talked about that earlier,
- 39:02but this idea of it, by a maxes,
- 39:04our bodies stay in sympathetic nervous system response,
- 39:09and when in that sympathetic,
- 39:11that fight or flight,
- 39:12that do or die high stress type environment,
- 39:16it's not just a psychological reaction,
- 39:19like people who live in the state of anxiety,
- 39:21I have a cousin who is just in constant,
- 39:25constant sympathetic nervous system,
- 39:27like a mild, free, mild female.
- 39:28I will, a 45.
- 39:31She's been there a long time, but yes,
- 39:33but she is already going to paramanopaus and so on and so forth.
- 39:37But I mean, she can hear a car door close outside
- 39:40and practically jumps off the couch.
- 39:42This is absolutely something we've dealt with already.
- 39:44Now, when you think of,
- 39:46and I'm saying, we know the answer to your cousin,
- 39:48I'm saying this kind of thing,
- 39:49where they're in fight or flight,
- 39:51and then one says,
- 39:52it's because I'm stressed,
- 39:54what actually,
- 39:55or is it your stress because you or what you're doing
- 39:59in your life or what you,
- 40:00and so let me give you an example.
- 40:03We all drink, I mean, I don't really drink,
- 40:05I don't drink soda, actually,
- 40:06but we give kid,
- 40:07oh, just give them an apple juice, right?
- 40:10Now, I call sugar, KC,
- 40:13kitty cocaine,
- 40:14that's what I call it, right?
- 40:15You literally proper it.
- 40:17Run around and you see the,
- 40:18ooh, and then they crash, right?
- 40:20So the problem with sugar,
- 40:22so we don't, I'm like,
- 40:24I'll cut my alcohol,
- 40:24but juice is sugar,
- 40:25but I'm like alcohol or drugs.
- 40:27It's actually what our body runs on,
- 40:29glucose, it's what it brought,
- 40:30ATP, ATP, blah, blah, blah, blah,
- 40:32so we're designed to run on this.
- 40:36It's natural,
- 40:38but we're not designed to have refined sugar all the time.
- 40:42Well, we're not designed and refined sugar at all.
- 40:43So, yeah, okay, but you know what I mean?
- 40:46I understand, you know what you say, yes.
- 40:47So, you know, it's a treat.
- 40:49Now, in the wild, refined sugar was a fruit, right?
- 40:53But a fruit now is healthy, regular food.
- 40:56We just have scoops of sugar and,
- 40:58I mean, sodas or whatever.
- 40:59In bread, you buy bread,
- 41:01and again, where you can get into the whole, you know,
- 41:04sedentary lifestyle and, you know, having bread,
- 41:07but just forget about that.
- 41:08But fundamentally, we have all these things
- 41:10that we have in life that are hidden pitfalls of despair
- 41:15for one of our better term, hidden pits of despair.
- 41:17And it drives your body into this massive,
- 41:20high and low, high and low,
- 41:22and then it starts to affect your brain chemistry.
- 41:25So for instance, when I went,
- 41:28we went to Europe last year,
- 41:31obviously to Greece, to see the family,
- 41:33and obviously we've had so much things going on,
- 41:36and we spend a lot of time,
- 41:37and we hadn't been to Greece for a long time.
- 41:39And the first thing that happened when I went to Crete
- 41:41in the wilds, yoga, everything like really natural,
- 41:45you know, in every sea of people,
- 41:46look, I went into a different depression, literally.
- 41:50Oh, this is what I said.
- 41:52Massive despondency.
- 41:54I mean, almost suicidal, you know,
- 41:56I'm, you know, I knew what it was,
- 41:58but I couldn't believe how strong it was.
- 42:01And I didn't realize I hadn't been home for nine years,
- 42:04and so it was a long time.
- 42:06And I was detoxed detoxed, yeah, exactly.
- 42:09And in my daughter was loving this detoxed,
- 42:12here in America, no,
- 42:14and I got the bit I'm healthy, you know,
- 42:16now of course you can get a healthy lifestyle in America,
- 42:18but not if you travel,
- 42:20and if you go out and do yes,
- 42:22and you have to work at it,
- 42:23you go down those basic,
- 42:24you know, those gas stations
- 42:26and you have anything on those gas stations,
- 42:28you were blowing apart.
- 42:30Also, I did that this morning,
- 42:31like I stopped in a,
- 42:33stopped at a gas station
- 42:34and my way to the studio this morning
- 42:37and grabbed a protein.
- 42:38I was, I know better than that.
- 42:40I know.
- 42:41But it was, it was what I had time right for.
- 42:44Now, this is the thing.
- 42:45This is what we do.
- 42:46So we say to you, you know better,
- 42:49but you need someone to be on your shoulder,
- 42:51you know, you know,
- 42:51you're talking about history of it,
- 42:53you know, when a Roman general had a triumph, right?
- 42:56That's in your map of Rome over there.
- 42:57And they would have a slave behind him
- 42:59on the camera saying, you are a morcle,
- 43:01you are a morcle.
- 43:02As they were being applauded, like,
- 43:03way, Julius Caesar,
- 43:05and they're telling you,
- 43:07this is someone on your back of your shoulders
- 43:09to keep you in place.
- 43:11And I think we need training.
- 43:12We need to have a coach to always guide us
- 43:14because we do have a sense of,
- 43:17are basically deluding ourselves.
- 43:19And that's fundamentally,
- 43:20so when you look at that,
- 43:22those areas of the P and I,
- 43:24and you got Biomax,
- 43:25it's the bag,
- 43:26they're all connected,
- 43:27but you can't,
- 43:28you still have to put the right inputs
- 43:30or the right,
- 43:31what was the way to use Danish,
- 43:33giving yourself a structure?
- 43:34Well, we call it disciple,
- 43:36yeah, scheduling,
- 43:37giving yourself time to be disciplined.
- 43:40So let me ask you, Zach,
- 43:42I love the conversation,
- 43:43the idea I wanna just close the loop
- 43:46on that nervous system,
- 43:47the conversation.
- 43:49And that is we have a tendency to,
- 43:50people live in this sympathetic nervous system
- 43:53and don't realize
- 43:55that the emotional side that that creates
- 43:58and then it's kind of like a chicken early egg though
- 44:01because did the nervous system create
- 44:03the emotional dysfunction
- 44:04or did the emotional dysfunction
- 44:06cause the nervous system reaction,
- 44:08arguably both earned,
- 44:10but I don't think it's binary yet.
- 44:11I think it's real.
- 44:12It's both.
- 44:13Does it mean we don't need to interrupt it?
- 44:15Yeah.
- 44:15Because we need to interrupt that flow,
- 44:17but I don't think enough people realize
- 44:20how, you know,
- 44:21it's kind of the, you know,
- 44:23a laughingly say,
- 44:24although it's not a laughing matter,
- 44:25you know,
- 44:26the men who will struggle with a retrial dysfunction
- 44:28or whatever you've got.
- 44:29It's just a hard day at work, right?
- 44:31You know, ha ha ha.
- 44:32It's like, well, no,
- 44:33but literally that's a thing.
- 44:34Like you just did for a minute.
- 44:36Right.
- 44:37It's a thing though.
- 44:38It's this idea that when we get stuck in this nervous system,
- 44:42it's a survival mechanism for the body that says,
- 44:45anything that is non-essential
- 44:48to absolute survival turn off, yeah.
- 44:51Which includes sexual function,
- 44:53which includes digestive function,
- 44:55which includes emotional, yes, function.
- 44:58It actually every part of the brain
- 45:00that doesn't require attention, right?
- 45:03Starts getting shut down,
- 45:04which leads to brain fog.
- 45:06But why are you in a heightened state
- 45:08but experiencing brain fog?
- 45:09Well, because the central processing isn't required,
- 45:13the only thing that's required for survival
- 45:15is very acute attention,
- 45:17which is why when the car door slams,
- 45:18I hear it, I respond,
- 45:21but I didn't notice that, you know,
- 45:23I just misplaced $1,200 out of the cheque to count, right?
- 45:25Like that kind of stuff passes by
- 45:28and doesn't pay attention
- 45:29because we are in this heightened state
- 45:31and it's your body's survival mode,
- 45:34but we're not programmed to live there.
- 45:36Exactly right.
- 45:37That's great.
- 45:38I mean, I'm really glad to send you introduced us.
- 45:41You know, so shout out to Sandy Martin
- 45:43on this one.
- 45:44Shout out to C.A.
- 45:45I said, we're going to get a camera.
- 45:46We're going to get a good camera.
- 45:46Yeah, I just send him out to buy a hacker expert.
- 45:49There you go.
- 45:50The problem is we have societies is
- 45:52because we have this,
- 45:54an emergency sort of morality issues,
- 45:56we all about making money and an experience.
- 45:59So we promote division,
- 46:01we promote the height of fight or flight
- 46:04because by default,
- 46:05we are designed to react to existential threats
- 46:09more readily than threats that are the positive things
- 46:12because obviously,
- 46:13positivity is less about survival
- 46:15or more about growth
- 46:17and existential threats is about survival.
- 46:18So we're programmed to be in that fight or flight.
- 46:20So society has gone into this weird dynamic
- 46:24of, you know, we create division,
- 46:26we have soundbikes, we scroll through,
- 46:28I mean, I, you know,
- 46:29we're going to ask me for my social media
- 46:31and I don't really,
- 46:33I mean, my social media is rubbish.
- 46:34I have to do it, follow it, really.
- 46:36I have it, but I, you know,
- 46:37I don't really do any well and care
- 46:39because it's not, it's soundbikes.
- 46:42It's not about the, not all of it,
- 46:44but it's all dope.
- 46:45It means it all does be hits, right?
- 46:46So, so the fact is I'm going to come in person to see you
- 46:49is because you get a lot more from all the un,
- 46:52it's sort of those quiet signals that are not obvious.
- 46:54So the fact is we're programming our people,
- 46:57our children, adults to be in this constant fight or flight.
- 47:02That has an effect on the body
- 47:04and you have to unwind these things.
- 47:05You talk about emotions.
- 47:07We talk about where you have negative emotions
- 47:09so you have to get yourself to zero.
- 47:11So everyone just says,
- 47:12if psychology is all about getting in,
- 47:14Professor Goliath talks about this part of our team,
- 47:17which is where you have this sense
- 47:19that you hit zero and you're fine.
- 47:21But actually you've got to go to positive manifestation
- 47:25to offset the two to get yourself back in the middle again.
- 47:28And that's really important.
- 47:30And this is what we called the second law.
- 47:32The effects emotions have on aging
- 47:34because the stress that you put on your body
- 47:37excessively will age you
- 47:40because it will burn out your systems
- 47:42and for what reason?
- 47:43What was Goliath Facebook
- 47:45or the Instagram and Cishite Facebook?
- 47:48You know, I would call it, you know,
- 47:49or TikTok or whatever you want to call it,
- 47:51you know, it all of those things.
- 47:53They're all the same.
- 47:54Well, and unfortunately, I will say that,
- 47:57you know, probably somewhat existentially.
- 47:59I'll say we're teaching a younger generation
- 48:01and it's that dopamine mission.
- 48:03Yes, take a world that here.
- 48:05These hits have value and a goal.
- 48:07They don't have value.
- 48:08There's no value to it or that.
- 48:10And then a real dopamine hit no longer feels
- 48:14like something that's good enough, right?
- 48:16This idea, like I'll give an example,
- 48:18that the best way to experience dopamine, right, it's you.
- 48:23Literally stop and just think of things
- 48:24and you're like that you're grateful for.
- 48:26You will get the same dopamine hit.
- 48:28And yet we've actually, I would say we live
- 48:30in the most ungrateful generation
- 48:33that I can imagine.
- 48:35And part of it is because we're getting
- 48:38those dopamine hits someplace else
- 48:40and we're not requiring having to work for the many more.
- 48:43Yes, so that's very true.
- 48:45But the other point is with gratitude,
- 48:47this is the prime example, when you say,
- 48:50oh, I'm grateful and let's do five number stays
- 48:53or 10 hell marries or whatever it is,
- 48:55you're not really raising why you're doing it.
- 48:58For why are you, what are you grateful for?
- 49:00So someone says to me, you know, you're 54,
- 49:04how are you doing as a single dad?
- 49:06And yeah, how are you doing this?
- 49:07I'm like, well, I have my health, I have my family,
- 49:11I have friends, I have purpose.
- 49:14The fuck else is there in life, really?
- 49:16I mean, really?
- 49:17I'm gonna go to the beach and do this or do that.
- 49:20Yes, I could have more money.
- 49:22Yes, I occasionally have to worry about things.
- 49:24Yes, there's, you know, what am I gonna do here?
- 49:26But these are, that's life.
- 49:28You've got to get used to saving in choppy waters.
- 49:30What the sea is not always calm, right?
- 49:33And so that makes you healthy, right?
- 49:36But the question is, if you get it too easily
- 49:38and you have to work at it and don't work at it,
- 49:40your body had defaults it into this lazy pattern.
- 49:44That's the key.
- 49:44I'm a big fan of you, I do hard things.
- 49:46Yeah, I mean, you're gonna be a bit smart.
- 49:48Don't, I mean, don't do crazy things
- 49:51where you're busting yourself up,
- 49:52but you've got to take the harder route.
- 49:54Don't take the end of it, walk out the stairs.
- 49:56Well, but it's psychological resilience.
- 49:58Yeah.
- 49:59And resilience, I would argue, boy, say,
- 50:01is in multiple different levels the key to longevity?
- 50:04Yes.
- 50:05That is, it's not about an extreme high or an extreme low.
- 50:09It's the ability to navigate between the two
- 50:12and it's HRV, truthfully, right?
- 50:15It's not about how high can you go.
- 50:17It's not about how low are you.
- 50:19It's how quickly long you move between those.
- 50:21We have a vagal tone.
- 50:23It's all of these different things
- 50:25are all rooted on this exact same premise
- 50:27of being able to regulate.
- 50:29We have a, we have a phrase,
- 50:30when does adapt and loses make excuses?
- 50:33So it's like, you're adapt, you got to adapt.
- 50:35And it might, you might not want to adapt
- 50:37and you might not like having to adapt,
- 50:39but you have to adapt if you want to survive
- 50:41and that will allow you,
- 50:42and then it gives you perspective.
- 50:45So if you've had everything and then you have nothing,
- 50:48it gives you perspective to realize what it feels like.
- 50:51And I think that is something that we,
- 50:53we don't get necessarily instructs our next generation
- 50:58that no, you achieve, you want to achieve everything,
- 51:01but okay, well, why then work for what, for what?
- 51:04Dan Sullivan always uses the phrase, he's adapted it,
- 51:08and he always says there's only two teams.
- 51:09There's the winners and the learners.
- 51:11But I hadn't, the winners and the learners,
- 51:13and he's like, well, there could be a third team,
- 51:15but those are the losers.
- 51:17Yeah, because the losers were neither the winners
- 51:19nor the learners, right?
- 51:21He said, but I've only ever been on one of two teams.
- 51:23Right, the winner or the learner?
- 51:24This is a pin.
- 51:25I'm gonna come back on this pin, which is interesting.
- 51:27So after every great victory is the most dangerous time,
- 51:32like because at that moment of victory,
- 51:35the thing that you bounced against has gone away.
- 51:37And that's when you get hubris or whatever it is, right?
- 51:41And we can go on to historical reproductions.
- 51:43I was 49 years old.
- 51:45I had gone through a big moment of, you know,
- 51:49some things that happened in my life.
- 51:51And I'd had a very big victory,
- 51:53or what they were about the time.
- 51:54And in that moment of that victory,
- 51:56I thought, okay, now I'm gonna get back to where I was
- 52:00and getting myself, I was still fifth and everything,
- 52:02but I'm gonna live this, I'd all planned
- 52:04how I was gonna live my life.
- 52:05And at that moment, I hit my toe,
- 52:07and I sort of, it swelled up, and I couldn't exercise,
- 52:11but I was just on that cast of what I call sort of staying fit,
- 52:15but I wasn't, and my body just overloaded.
- 52:18And then, fast forward four months, I had COVID very badly.
- 52:24It was the third time I got COVID, actually,
- 52:25the first thing nothing happened.
- 52:27And I was going in to see this cyanide,
- 52:31Monday morning, after being awake for 10 days,
- 52:34coughing up blood, blood was over.
- 52:36Going in, thinking, you know,
- 52:38my grandfather, who I named after, Zach,
- 52:42died at Freak case in Nuri, 49,
- 52:4449 years old as well,
- 52:45eldest, oldest, birthday, August, tonight,
- 52:47you're going into a bad day.
- 52:48And I'm like, am I dying today?
- 52:51I'm like, fuck that.
- 52:54I'm not dying, right?
- 52:55I'm not doing that.
- 52:57But fundamentally, you're programming yourself,
- 53:00like you've got to be careful at those moments
- 53:02of why am I not, what have I got to live for?
- 53:05And I knew, and also I was a scientist,
- 53:07so I knew the physiology issues.
- 53:10So I did panic, which in a sense,
- 53:13you can talk to fellow friends of mine
- 53:14who are doctors or scientists
- 53:16who have gone through similar things I went through.
- 53:19And I remember afterwards,
- 53:20I went through it all and I went,
- 53:22my blood oxygenation was really low.
- 53:24He came back up to, and I said,
- 53:26when I was in the recovery and becoming,
- 53:28and I held this guy's hand, it was 35, right?
- 53:32Super fit, super healthy and yielded,
- 53:34really died in my head,
- 53:35not quite, I'm in the gown too,
- 53:37because the family went out and I don't know
- 53:39for sure if he died,
- 53:40but I wouldn't be surprised if he did,
- 53:42you know, the old people came in,
- 53:44and I was like, you know,
- 53:46tell me about your children, tell me, you know,
- 53:49but you can't tell what was getting on the side
- 53:51that man's mind, so that's the thing.
- 53:54And so what I'm saying is that pin is like,
- 53:57and everything to myself,
- 53:58I was high going to go like my grandfather, no way.
- 54:02Now I don't know why I never met him,
- 54:03so I don't know what course I know that
- 54:04if we ever knew him, so he was incredible.
- 54:07But I never met it.
- 54:08Yeah, I mean, so people die.
- 54:10You're not to diminish that,
- 54:12but I'll give the example and I'll say,
- 54:13my grandmother, my mom's mom died at 52.
- 54:16So sudden heart attack, yes.
- 54:18Don't know exactly what caused all of that,
- 54:22but the point of that is at 52 years old,
- 54:26my mother believed that her time was up any moment, yes.
- 54:31Like at the age of 52, my mother lived,
- 54:34she lived until she was 62,
- 54:35but for those 10 years,
- 54:39her entire mindset was she was on borrowed time.
- 54:42Now, my opinion, I don't know about your mother,
- 54:44but I bet you that might affect the longevity.
- 54:47And the thing is, you can take two ways for it, right?
- 54:50So with my other grandfather,
- 54:52who was the inspiration for my art,
- 54:54well, one of the main inspirations
- 54:55for doing what I do today,
- 54:57he died of freak,
- 54:59a pulmonary embolism,
- 55:00a freak of free stroke in his mid 70s,
- 55:03and he looks so young.
- 55:05His two brothers, once they're alive,
- 55:06and he's over a hundred.
- 55:08And the reality is that I saw that as I saw why he died.
- 55:13He died of a broken heart, fundamentally.
- 55:17And I saw that.
- 55:18So I took it as a strength,
- 55:20rather than, oh, it's my part,
- 55:22but we have the luxury of PhDs and masters,
- 55:25and you have the luxury of knowledge
- 55:27that you can now apply,
- 55:29and it's our duty to pass that on to other people.
- 55:33And that's my intention.
- 55:34My entire goal,
- 55:36even in hosting a podcast,
- 55:38is it's tossing on that,
- 55:38how do we get that information to people?
- 55:40How do we get people who may not know this stuff
- 55:44to really understand that?
- 55:46There's more to it than what we believe,
- 55:48because I genuinely believe in some respects
- 55:50that I took the red pill somewhere along the lines,
- 55:54and don't longer live in the matrix.
- 55:56And I think the last couple of years
- 55:58with Bobby Kennedy and everything else,
- 56:00like there's been so much of weight,
- 56:02the fruit pyramids upside down,
- 56:03and seed oils are killing people.
- 56:05And I mean, I think the whole world now
- 56:07is seen a lot of the stuff
- 56:09that maybe some of us have been looking at for years,
- 56:13and suddenly going, wait, what?
- 56:14Thanks, what, what, what?
- 56:17So I'm grateful for that.
- 56:18I'm incredibly grateful for what he's doing
- 56:20for other people in our community,
- 56:21and what they're doing.
- 56:22But it's one of those things that I think too often,
- 56:25people rely on a person,
- 56:26or two people with a small group of people.
- 56:28No, we all should be taught.
- 56:29Yes, yeah, we should.
- 56:30Except we all should.
- 56:31So I think it's very bad to point you rolled up there.
- 56:33So, you know, I can say,
- 56:34well, you know, I'm really,
- 56:36I'm really smiley,
- 56:37I did all of this, that bullshit.
- 56:39I was, had the luxury of being given a Greek diet
- 56:43as a basic foundation for my comfort food.
- 56:45So when my comfort food is not of me pie,
- 56:48it's black eyed peas and, and color green.
- 56:51Or, look,
- 56:52while Ramadhi Ghanlakan is, we'd say,
- 56:53but it's the equivalent of all of one and lemon.
- 56:56Oh, wow, a lemon and antidepressant,
- 56:58all of all, really good off you.
- 56:59You know, so might default or be true
- 57:02to whatever it is, very good for me.
- 57:04I didn't choose that.
- 57:05I was trained as a young kid.
- 57:07So that was, I mean, a great defaults gratitude.
- 57:09I'm grateful for that.
- 57:11I was also taught about, I was given love.
- 57:13I was given, you know, I was,
- 57:15I was valued as a human being.
- 57:17So I try and pay it forward.
- 57:18I'm not perfect.
- 57:19I make mistakes, of course,
- 57:20but I'm grateful for that.
- 57:22All right.
- 57:23And I, and I realized that, you know,
- 57:25this is not an arrogance.
- 57:26It's also very hot.
- 57:27I hate the age word, but I hate the age word,
- 57:30but I don't have humbling,
- 57:31but it is very leveling to,
- 57:33to realize that these things are very important for you.
- 57:37And so we, we have that.
- 57:39And so it makes you grateful.
- 57:40So I passed that on.
- 57:41Now, there's other things I've learned from other people
- 57:43that I didn't know.
- 57:45And I learned from them.
- 57:46And so I think we need to talk about it.
- 57:47But the fundamentals really,
- 57:49the most important thing is the basics.
- 57:53And the basics are generally quite cheap or free.
- 57:56That's the reality.
- 57:58That's right.
- 57:58They're boring, but they're essential.
- 58:01Absolutely.
- 58:02And I tell people who absolutely,
- 58:03people who talk about how, you know,
- 58:05bio-hacking and longevity, it's so expensive.
- 58:08And I was like, oh, really?
- 58:09Like mobility, fasting, sleep.
- 58:11Yeah, all free.
- 58:12Guy, exercise, exercise in the most normal health.
- 58:15That's what we call it.
- 58:16Oh, all of it works.
- 58:17It will not buy my book and get the,
- 58:19blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 58:20So yeah, I wanted, I want to go back
- 58:22where we started, because our conversation we started
- 58:25was really about menopause and, and female reproductive
- 58:28girls in hormonal house.
- 58:31What advice would you give if you work in this all the time?
- 58:34You've got Austin Labs and that you're working with women
- 58:37who are going to menopause to potentially extend
- 58:39their fertility period.
- 58:42But also to recreate emotional house,
- 58:46yeah, for them through that process, obviously.
- 58:49What are the, I wanted you to break this down for us
- 58:52in three different sound bites, if you will.
- 58:53So that is the first one.
- 58:55What is it that women should be looking for
- 58:58other than a calendar?
- 59:00Because every woman just assumes
- 59:01she's going to go through menopause
- 59:02at the same time when mom didn't.
- 59:04But I don't know why you often need, did there are correlations?
- 59:08But I would say that there's genetics
- 59:09and then there's epigenetics.
- 59:11Renate is environment.
- 59:12There's environmental lifestyle changes
- 59:13that absolutely determine that even more than genetics.
- 59:16Yes, absolutely.
- 59:17So what is it that a woman can be doing
- 59:19before she gets into menopause?
- 59:21Okay, look for that.
- 59:22The second thing I want you to do is
- 59:24when a woman's in perimenopause,
- 59:26what are the lifestyle changes
- 59:27that you strongly recommend?
- 59:29And when a woman actually gets to the point of menopause,
- 59:34what are the things that she ought to be doing
- 59:36and the truth is those may all be the same fix?
- 59:39So, yeah.
- 59:40I break this down here.
- 59:41So what are the signs you should be doing
- 59:44before you're in menopause?
- 59:45Speak to a 25 year old woman,
- 59:47a 35 year old woman, and a 55 year old woman.
- 59:49Okay, right.
- 59:50So I've got the 26 year old daughter, right?
- 59:52So the first thing I would say is
- 59:54you'd make a virtue out of a necessity,
- 59:56create a lifestyle that is fundamentally healthy
- 1:00:00but not doesn't feel like you're working at it, right?
- 1:00:03So, you know, have a lifestyle where you do exercise,
- 1:00:07you move around, you've got to move, you've got to exercise
- 1:00:11and it doesn't mean you've got to be an Olympic athlete.
- 1:00:14You've just got to get out there
- 1:00:15and constantly do your exercise routine.
- 1:00:19Whatever that is, for some women is running,
- 1:00:21for some women is yoga,
- 1:00:22for some women it's kickboxing and whatever it is.
- 1:00:25You've got to find yourself where the works meet.
- 1:00:27Two things I want to put down there,
- 1:00:29one, especially for women, but for men as well.
- 1:00:32That's a community factor as well.
- 1:00:34That going to the gym and working out,
- 1:00:36they make friends at your gym
- 1:00:37and you will go to your gym or off.
- 1:00:39Yeah.
- 1:00:40Second thing is working out is not a punishment
- 1:00:42for what you ate out of the life.
- 1:00:44Right, right.
- 1:00:45It's not a punishment for what you ate.
- 1:00:46Working out as a celebration of what you can do.
- 1:00:48Yeah, great line.
- 1:00:49That's yeah, I like to use that one.
- 1:00:50I'm gonna use it.
- 1:00:51Just thanks, I'll tell you.
- 1:00:53But the other thing as well is diet as well.
- 1:00:56So it's diet, exercise and emotional health.
- 1:00:58So basically it's the same thing.
- 1:01:00Nothing changes.
- 1:01:01But you've got to find food that works for you, right?
- 1:01:03Now this is a tricky thing, you see.
- 1:01:06Because the signs that you have as certain age,
- 1:01:08you might be going into some form of
- 1:01:11phisophilaic shock, you know,
- 1:01:12and it could be diet, could be excess,
- 1:01:14could be I've got ADD or XYZ or ABC,
- 1:01:17whatever you want to call it,
- 1:01:18all these different things you may have,
- 1:01:20which I think a lot of them are constructs,
- 1:01:23rather than I mean, I'm not saying they don't exist,
- 1:01:26but they're not as identified
- 1:01:28because that's how people make their money.
- 1:01:30We identify this.
- 1:01:31So we take this pill and you'll be fine.
- 1:01:34No, only yourself.
- 1:01:36Always question number one.
- 1:01:38So the first thing is when I would do it any age,
- 1:01:42is get a baseline.
- 1:01:43Now obviously we believe our baseline is the best,
- 1:01:46of course, or one of the best.
- 1:01:47But I mean, in other words,
- 1:01:49know what your basics are.
- 1:01:50Take your gut bio, that changes very rapidly, by the way.
- 1:01:54Take your brain scans with change rapidly.
- 1:01:56Do your hormones, the day of change does rapidly.
- 1:01:58And obviously you do things like bone density,
- 1:02:01which is more sterile.
- 1:02:03So you have your basic setup.
- 1:02:05So you know what you're doing.
- 1:02:06So with my daughter said,
- 1:02:07take all these things, have it done.
- 1:02:09And she's got it.
- 1:02:10She's got the baseline.
- 1:02:11She's very thin, healthy.
- 1:02:14But nothing will happen to 25, 26.
- 1:02:17Maybe when she's 35, she might review it again,
- 1:02:20but she's living a lifestyle of health.
- 1:02:22She's not, you know, not going for excessive behavior.
- 1:02:25And that's really important to diet and exercise.
- 1:02:28And so giving her a chance to rest and sleep, right?
- 1:02:33Now for some people it's rested, can mean many things.
- 1:02:37It can be eight hours, for some people,
- 1:02:39five hours for others, whatever.
- 1:02:40Now that's the first, so the signs are,
- 1:02:42what happens with those signs?
- 1:02:44You'll get inflammation hives,
- 1:02:46markers on your hands or tiredness.
- 1:02:48But if you don't have a baseline to revert to,
- 1:02:51you have no idea what this could be.
- 1:02:53So the first thing I would do for anyone
- 1:02:55is get a baseline, get a full analysis documentation,
- 1:02:58get a full setup.
- 1:03:00And by the way, the same is true for men.
- 1:03:02Yes, and we just do it for men too.
- 1:03:03I mean, they're men as well.
- 1:03:04I mean, I'll give you an example,
- 1:03:06say I had a full body MRI done a couple of years ago now.
- 1:03:10And it showed a large prostate.
- 1:03:13But a large prostate doesn't mean in large prostate.
- 1:03:17That just means I may have a large prostate,
- 1:03:20but I had no baseline.
- 1:03:22Exactly.
- 1:03:23So therefore you're doing your result,
- 1:03:26you're trying to diagnose something
- 1:03:27without having a reference point.
- 1:03:29That's the problem.
- 1:03:30That was the problem everyone's trying to do.
- 1:03:31And they're trying to do it.
- 1:03:32So you know, but I mean, 100% true.
- 1:03:35And at the point that I had blood work done
- 1:03:38and showed elevated PSA levels,
- 1:03:40that immediately went into the fear factor
- 1:03:42for every doctorable.
- 1:03:43You had an enlarged prostate.
- 1:03:45You had elevated PSA levels as a result.
- 1:03:47The results were I had elevated PSA levels
- 1:03:50from an infection, rights.
- 1:03:51And I just have a large prostate, right?
- 1:03:54But if you knew you had lost prostate from before,
- 1:03:56and I have no, you would have been a rule
- 1:03:58like the emotional trauma that you now got by,
- 1:04:00but you have your causes all spiked,
- 1:04:02literally spiked,
- 1:04:03100% true.
- 1:04:04And the whole thing,
- 1:04:05if I could, oh my god,
- 1:04:06and the here thing is the truth matter is my dad.
- 1:04:09He had prostate cancer.
- 1:04:10So my immediate response was, oh, dear God,
- 1:04:14now I'm dealing with prostate cancer.
- 1:04:15Like, did it panic me to the point of thinking it?
- 1:04:18No, because I'm friends with some
- 1:04:19of the best functional oncologists in the world.
- 1:04:23So I'm like, okay, well, I just need to get on that
- 1:04:25protocol, but here's the reality.
- 1:04:27Like, it's still your right cortisol level spike,
- 1:04:29emotions change like everything starts to change in your head.
- 1:04:34But had I had a baseline,
- 1:04:36none of that reaction would have taken place.
- 1:04:39So again, the same thing for a woman, right?
- 1:04:41But yeah, you need to know what the baseline is
- 1:04:44to even know how that goes.
- 1:04:45And what would you do?
- 1:04:46I wouldn't want it.
- 1:04:47I wouldn't have the rest of the question.
- 1:04:48Okay, yeah, so, so, so you're saying,
- 1:04:50so get a baseline.
- 1:04:51It's the first thing we're going to do for this time.
- 1:04:52That would be pre-pre-peri or menopause, right?
- 1:04:57Then you have a baseline.
- 1:04:59But if only something you haven't done that point,
- 1:05:01when you hit peri,
- 1:05:02you'll start to see things like issues
- 1:05:06with brain fog, of lack of motivation.
- 1:05:09And the first thing you start to get that
- 1:05:11is immediately get a test done immediately.
- 1:05:14Contact people on, obviously, what test is that?
- 1:05:17Well, we would, we do a full analysis.
- 1:05:19So we would say a bone density,
- 1:05:21a throwing span of test,
- 1:05:22which is obviously a proprietary but an emotional test.
- 1:05:24The brain scan, a gut biome test,
- 1:05:27and the panels as well as what is full DNA, right?
- 1:05:30Because the thing with that is once you have that,
- 1:05:33we can work with it.
- 1:05:34Even if you do it at 50,
- 1:05:35we still work with it, whatever it is.
- 1:05:38But the sooner you get a dump,
- 1:05:39the signs are motivation, energy,
- 1:05:43libido, discount, eyesight may be going.
- 1:05:46And again, you might have a genetic issue with eyesight,
- 1:05:49but it might not be that,
- 1:05:50might be something else, right?
- 1:05:51But soon something happens, get the full testing done.
- 1:05:54That's the first thing.
- 1:05:56And then the second thing is store,
- 1:05:58the second thing we would recommend immediately
- 1:06:00is store your DNA.
- 1:06:01And I don't mean, you know,
- 1:06:04to store it with like a ZBG or something like that,
- 1:06:07where you take a token and you only have ownership
- 1:06:11with your DNA,
- 1:06:12because at some point that might come in useful in the future.
- 1:06:14Explain it.
- 1:06:15So the one thing you truly own is your own DNA.
- 1:06:18This is a different conversation,
- 1:06:19rather than anyone.
- 1:06:20But if you store it,
- 1:06:21your DNA will change over time.
- 1:06:23It can change.
- 1:06:24You're going to do your genetic change that thing.
- 1:06:28So if you have something stored
- 1:06:29with a natural sample of your DNA,
- 1:06:32I can just aim in freeze.
- 1:06:34Yeah, I think it's this is a separate conversation.
- 1:06:37I maybe I should talk about you with this offline.
- 1:06:38You could decide to talk if I had another time.
- 1:06:41But okay, it's it's it's self-consciousness.
- 1:06:43Yeah, this is an interesting one.
- 1:06:45And it's something that the group of us
- 1:06:46have been working with together,
- 1:06:48whereby you truly own something
- 1:06:50that no one else can take from.
- 1:06:51Right?
- 1:06:52That's something because we offer that
- 1:06:54to our patients when they come in immediately,
- 1:06:57although it's not widely done yet.
- 1:06:59But it does put a stitch in time,
- 1:07:00put a stitch in time.
- 1:07:01And you take that,
- 1:07:03and that's the first thing you should do.
- 1:07:05And the signs are brain fog,
- 1:07:07lack of motivation,
- 1:07:09despondency,
- 1:07:12starting to dislike the people that you love.
- 1:07:14That's a big one.
- 1:07:15You know,
- 1:07:16why am I disliking these people?
- 1:07:17Why do I hate everything?
- 1:07:19Why is this coffee doesn't taste good?
- 1:07:21Why doesn't this feel right?
- 1:07:23That's a really good time.
- 1:07:24Your emotions, your feelings,
- 1:07:25when those things happen,
- 1:07:27and the things you gotta be careful
- 1:07:29because it's our tendency,
- 1:07:30especially in the Western world,
- 1:07:31particularly in America,
- 1:07:33is to,
- 1:07:35oh my god, you know,
- 1:07:36the minute you have one drink,
- 1:07:37you're an alcoholic.
- 1:07:38It's black or white,
- 1:07:38it's shades of gray.
- 1:07:40I want you to speak on one quick topic.
- 1:07:42First control pills.
- 1:07:43Throwing that one out of nowhere.
- 1:07:44Ooh.
- 1:07:46Because clearly,
- 1:07:47I understand the purpose behind birth control pills,
- 1:07:50but I also know several women
- 1:07:52who aren't even sexually active
- 1:07:53who are on birth control pills.
- 1:07:55Did you stop the influx day?
- 1:07:58Correct.
- 1:07:59To just offset a painful menstrual cycle.
- 1:08:02How do birth control pills
- 1:08:04and that type of,
- 1:08:06I'll say, pharmaceutical interaction
- 1:08:08with the menstrual cycle affect metapause onset?
- 1:08:12My viewpoint is less is more.
- 1:08:15So having,
- 1:08:17had, you know,
- 1:08:18been married,
- 1:08:19you know, more than once,
- 1:08:20having, having experienced,
- 1:08:22you know,
- 1:08:22I've been related to understanding
- 1:08:24these going through a range of things.
- 1:08:26What I've noticed
- 1:08:27is that I would avoid
- 1:08:29as things that disrupt your bodily system
- 1:08:34as much as possible as a default.
- 1:08:37I'm not saying don't ever do it,
- 1:08:39but I'm saying be very careful about what you do
- 1:08:43because once you start down that road,
- 1:08:45there's a lot of,
- 1:08:46can be a lot of time to come back to that level we talked about
- 1:08:50of negative to positive back to the middle.
- 1:08:52So I, again,
- 1:08:55this is where that blank book as you talk about,
- 1:08:57you know,
- 1:08:58because I'm a man, right?
- 1:08:59It's just so it's different.
- 1:09:01This is about as non-committal
- 1:09:02as you've been on an answer to the entire conversation.
- 1:09:05Yeah, I've been on colonel on that one
- 1:09:06because I think that you could be very careful
- 1:09:10with those situations
- 1:09:11because it's not in isolation.
- 1:09:13When someone comes to us,
- 1:09:14you know,
- 1:09:15obviously they're on a different viewpoint,
- 1:09:16but as a rule,
- 1:09:18I would avoid as much farmer as you can.
- 1:09:23I don't know.
- 1:09:25I'm saying the fact that we need antibiotics sometimes,
- 1:09:28we need to talk about,
- 1:09:29but as a rule, less is more.
- 1:09:31Well, and I think that really becomes a matter of,
- 1:09:34here's my opinion,
- 1:09:34and again,
- 1:09:35I say this as a man is,
- 1:09:37I believe that we over index on the use of pharmaceuticals
- 1:09:41and the conversation that I have so often is,
- 1:09:45we deal with downstream symptoms
- 1:09:47around venture upstream prevention prevention.
- 1:09:50That's where about prevention,
- 1:09:51that painful menstrual cycles
- 1:09:53is usually an indication of something else is going on
- 1:09:57that you're not dealing with.
- 1:09:59I would arguably say,
- 1:10:01I know several women in the medical profession
- 1:10:02who believe that menopausal symptoms at all are not says.
- 1:10:08That women are dealing with menopausal symptoms
- 1:10:11and everything from hot flashes to boot swings
- 1:10:13and everything else
- 1:10:15are nothing more than gut dysregulation.
- 1:10:17Yeah, I don't see a lot of truth in them.
- 1:10:19And if they actually dealt with gut issues prior,
- 1:10:23that menopause itself is not supposed to be symptomatic.
- 1:10:28That is happening as you're handing up
- 1:10:30with all of these systems
- 1:10:31because something's changing their body, we agree,
- 1:10:33because,
- 1:10:34but it's triggering all of this
- 1:10:36because these two things used to live in harmony
- 1:10:38and when one of them changed,
- 1:10:40the other one is changing in response.
- 1:10:43Again, as a man,
- 1:10:44I clearly don't have an authority on that topic.
- 1:10:49But as a scientist, yes, I do.
- 1:10:51And I do understand that
- 1:10:53and I can lean on several female doctors
- 1:10:56who are close confidants
- 1:10:58that would arguably say that.
- 1:11:00I think, yeah.
- 1:11:01I think realistically, you're right.
- 1:11:03I fundamentally,
- 1:11:04we have to look at things
- 1:11:05and the holistic way,
- 1:11:07the other rich way,
- 1:11:08I'm not a big fan of humble, that is the idea.
- 1:11:10But we have to look at systemically the whole process.
- 1:11:14That's what our three laws come in,
- 1:11:15like I said,
- 1:11:16fully functioning,
- 1:11:17rough reproduction of organs,
- 1:11:18foundation of extending light,
- 1:11:20the second is emotions,
- 1:11:21effect aging,
- 1:11:22and the third is the body
- 1:11:23that's not into isolation.
- 1:11:25There's a series of citizens overlap.
- 1:11:27Why does the nervous system
- 1:11:29overlap the blood system,
- 1:11:30overlap the, you know,
- 1:11:31you're just like a bunch of layers.
- 1:11:32That's right, well.
- 1:11:33So when you look at it,
- 1:11:35you have to take all of those in their entirety
- 1:11:38and I think the problem with drugs,
- 1:11:41you know,
- 1:11:42I mean, I always jokingly say,
- 1:11:43if you're only taking them for fun,
- 1:11:44you know, don't take them for,
- 1:11:45don't take them for,
- 1:11:46sorry,
- 1:11:47sorry,
- 1:11:48you know,
- 1:11:49but what I'm saying is just like fundamentally,
- 1:11:51you're taking a drug with that knowing why you're taking it.
- 1:11:55I'm not saying you don't need them,
- 1:11:57but you've got to know those basics,
- 1:11:58like your doctor friends are saying is,
- 1:12:00maybe you've got this regulation.
- 1:12:02That's why if you've had your baseline, right?
- 1:12:04You can,
- 1:12:05oh, wait a minute,
- 1:12:06maybe I am that person who has a really high PI,
- 1:12:09adrenaline,
- 1:12:10maybe I've got a really high heart rate,
- 1:12:11and that's normal for me, right?
- 1:12:14I think we lean on our parents' experiences
- 1:12:16being normal,
- 1:12:17and then we regulate accordingly,
- 1:12:19but your parents live in different livestock.
- 1:12:22100%, 100%.
- 1:12:23That's the same,
- 1:12:24that's not a problem.
- 1:12:25Fair.
- 1:12:26Especially with its level of change
- 1:12:27has happened over the last 50, 100 years.
- 1:12:30It's huge.
- 1:12:31Absolute.
- 1:12:32When your parents were going as children,
- 1:12:33they didn't have overloaded sodas, overloadic,
- 1:12:35they maybe had some things,
- 1:12:36but not to them.
- 1:12:37Yeah, but the level of processed foods
- 1:12:39and Wi-Fi signals.
- 1:12:40They didn't have Wi-Fi.
- 1:12:41And you got any of those?
- 1:12:42What happens to Wi-Fi?
- 1:12:42Who knows?
- 1:12:43We know them.
- 1:12:44Blue light and blue light stuff.
- 1:12:46I mean, I mean,
- 1:12:47the whole thing with all the glasses people weigh, you know?
- 1:12:49And I see, I thought it's a bit of a joke,
- 1:12:51but actually, what's not a joke is real.
- 1:12:53I actually just saw an Andy other day that was for eight.
- 1:12:56It was for something that you put on your screen
- 1:12:59that actually blocks blue light,
- 1:13:00so it actually gives like a red hue to your phone.
- 1:13:03To block blue light if you're using,
- 1:13:05and vice has made it there.
- 1:13:06And also, for many years,
- 1:13:08I had a whole piece where I was off grid for 10 years,
- 1:13:1112 years, literally living built good.
- 1:13:13Yeah, and I now realize the things I'm having now
- 1:13:16are things that people had in their mid 30s.
- 1:13:19You know, the whole tiredness and so on and so on.
- 1:13:22So, but again, again, it's like,
- 1:13:24so an answer to your question, less is more.
- 1:13:26I agree with that.
- 1:13:27Less is more.
- 1:13:28Thank you so much being here.
- 1:13:29I appreciate the work you're doing to support women
- 1:13:32who are going through what I believe socially,
- 1:13:35we've considered to be a woman's crisis moment.
- 1:13:39Yeah, but because I don't think it has to be.
- 1:13:42And I think for many women,
- 1:13:43they dread the onset of menopause
- 1:13:45rather than celebrating it as being the next
- 1:13:48passage of life, right?
- 1:13:50Well, what can I once say,
- 1:13:51which is, is that half the woman is run,
- 1:13:54half the world is run by women.
- 1:13:56What's that? Right?
- 1:13:57So, we either let nature,
- 1:14:00we either let nature catch up with society,
- 1:14:05or we go back to mean cavemen.
- 1:14:06It's one of the two, right?
- 1:14:08And I think we're going to take the nature
- 1:14:09to catch up with society.
- 1:14:11And this is what we're trying to do.
- 1:14:12Well, I would actually arguably say
- 1:14:14that we've gotten so sophisticated
- 1:14:15that we've gone back.
- 1:14:16Yeah, we've gotten so sophisticated
- 1:14:19that all of the discoveries that we're seeing
- 1:14:21and science right now are going back to ancient wisdom.
- 1:14:24Yes, that we have to,
- 1:14:26we've been, that's a sure stood,
- 1:14:27the science behind it,
- 1:14:29but the wisdom has how we call them magic like that.
- 1:14:31Yeah, I mean, the truth is,
- 1:14:33I mean, Mediterranean diets.
- 1:14:34And it's like, well, now we understand why it works,
- 1:14:36but it just worked.
- 1:14:38And, you know, circadian rhythms.
- 1:14:40And so, like, they've always existed as,
- 1:14:43and our ancestors believed in them,
- 1:14:47even though they didn't know why,
- 1:14:49or biblical knowledge that, you know,
- 1:14:52that we understand that like nowadays,
- 1:14:54we're looking at like, you know,
- 1:14:54why would they told not to eat pork?
- 1:14:56Like, well, now we understand.
- 1:14:58We're going to recite it.
- 1:14:59We're going to have to,
- 1:15:00we're going to just break down the protein,
- 1:15:01so you don't have to eat your,
- 1:15:02the fruit, which is what cows,
- 1:15:03and she ate all of it in that thing.
- 1:15:05I know, so many things.
- 1:15:06But I love that.
- 1:15:07And I love what you're doing in that space.
- 1:15:09And thank you for supporting the women in all of our lives
- 1:15:11who are dealing with this,
- 1:15:13and helping them find solutions for it.
- 1:15:15I love your mindset in terms of, you know,
- 1:15:18living as long as thriving,
- 1:15:19as long as as possible biologically,
- 1:15:22but also staying emotionally, spiritually,
- 1:15:25and physiologically resilient in all stages of life.
- 1:15:28I think it's so important.
- 1:15:30And unfortunately, we do look at things in isolation
- 1:15:34and we're not isolated.
- 1:15:36There's not one part of our existence
- 1:15:39that is isolated from all of the rest of it.
- 1:15:42And unfortunately,
- 1:15:44it's like trying to decode a Rubik's cube
- 1:15:46with 452 sides.
- 1:15:49Yes, everybody can have a voice in their conversation.
- 1:15:51Well, really, there are six sides.
- 1:15:53I heard a boy and that's the thing.
- 1:15:54It ain't exactly,
- 1:15:55but it feels like it's a weird idea
- 1:15:57and the drug constantly playing
- 1:15:59where one thing affects the next,
- 1:16:00but it shoots.
- 1:16:01Thank you so much for being with us here on Age Defiantly.
- 1:16:03And for those of you listening,
- 1:16:05I guarantee you that you're going to want to look down
- 1:16:08on the show notes and learn more about what Zach is doing.
- 1:16:11He did not encourage us to follow his social media,
- 1:16:14but I'm certain that there's a presence out there
- 1:16:15that we'll put links to that you could take and land them
- 1:16:17as well because we have a book as well.
- 1:16:19I was getting there as well
- 1:16:20and then as we're going to put links to his book,
- 1:16:23you meet the title of the book again.
- 1:16:24So three laws of longevity.
- 1:16:25The three laws of longevity,
- 1:16:27looking forward to that real.
- 1:16:28Yep.
- 1:16:29As you can tell, I don't welcome any of the guys
- 1:16:31or the, yeah.
- 1:16:31This is only a fraction.
- 1:16:33The, uh, so look for it.
- 1:16:34The three laws of longevity,
- 1:16:36links are also down in the show notes
- 1:16:38and we will see you next time by the Age Defiantly.