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- 1:16Speaker 1: So there's your preface. Now let's get into the show. Ross,
- 1:19Speaker 1: glad to have you back. I know last week there
- 1:23Speaker 1: was a little bit of a concern from the Ohio
- 1:25Speaker 1: State fan base on the success or lack thereof, for
- 1:27Speaker 1: the running game, especially in the first half against Akron,
- 1:30Speaker 1: And I know we have seen teams over the years
- 1:32Speaker 1: try and keep things kind of simple in these early
- 1:34Speaker 1: games where there's a you know, their fifty point favorites,
- 1:37Speaker 1: so you don't need to really you know, throw the
- 1:39Speaker 1: whole kitchen sink out there. You know, are they working
- 1:42Speaker 1: on were they last week just kind of working on
- 1:44Speaker 1: basics and maybe even running where they didn't have numbers
- 1:48Speaker 1: advantages to kind of challenge guys or was it really
- 1:51Speaker 1: just offensive line issues? What was what did you chalk
- 1:54Speaker 1: up the slow start to last week?
- 1:56Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would actually say it's the opposite. The
- 2:01Speaker 2: run game, and we can talk about this was very
- 2:05Speaker 2: chip Kelly, very distinct change from the Ryan Day era.
- 2:10Speaker 2: They ran a much more diverse run game than Ohio
- 2:15Speaker 2: State has used in the past under Day, and it
- 2:19Speaker 2: had all the Chip Kelly staples inside outside zone but
- 2:23Speaker 2: also pin and pull same side zone with a full
- 2:28Speaker 2: block countertraite.
- 2:29Speaker 3: We'll get into it.
- 2:31Speaker 2: But ironically because of that, they Ohio State executed some
- 2:37Speaker 2: concepts better than others. And for instance, I posted a
- 2:40Speaker 2: couple of days ago, like on Twitter and you can
- 2:43Speaker 2: go there and see it. Like Ohio State on inside zone,
- 2:46Speaker 2: which you know they've ran for years, was great. I mean,
- 2:48Speaker 2: I don't know what the yards per play was, it
- 2:51Speaker 2: was probably it could be over ten on that play.
- 2:53Speaker 2: So they could have sat there and just ran inside
- 2:55Speaker 2: zone all day and paired it with RPOs and I
- 3:00Speaker 2: like to talk about that as well. Have the difference
- 3:01Speaker 2: with chip Kelly and verse Ryan Day on that front.
- 3:04Speaker 2: But they actually didn't. They went for the more diverse scheme.
- 3:09Speaker 2: And there's some of the concepts, particularly countertray, where they're
- 3:13Speaker 2: pulling blockers, you know, gap blocking. That's where some of
- 3:16Speaker 2: the problems came in. And it wasn't Yes, there were
- 3:21Speaker 2: occasionally times where they were outnumbered, but it was more
- 3:23Speaker 2: just like people pulling and not identifying who to block correctly.
- 3:28Speaker 3: You know.
- 3:28Speaker 2: There was a couple of back to back plays where
- 3:32Speaker 2: they brought in Carson Carson Hinsman at right guard and
- 3:35Speaker 2: they ran counter tray and Hinsman and the tight end pulled.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Neither one identified the correct person to block. That left
- 3:42Speaker 2: under block defenders. Then on the next play they ran
- 3:45Speaker 2: pin and poll again pulled guys. No one blocked anyone pulling.
- 3:49Speaker 2: So there are some growing pains. My preference is that
- 3:53Speaker 2: they stick with having a more diverse scheme. We've talked
- 3:56Speaker 2: about for years the benefits of that in the run game.
- 4:00Speaker 2: But I just think there's gonna be some growing pains,
- 4:02Speaker 2: particularly with some of these concepts that are relatively new
- 4:08Speaker 2: for O High State, you know. And it's not just
- 4:11Speaker 2: and obviously as we I just alluded to, like there's
- 4:14Speaker 2: some mixing and matching on the offensive line.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Obviously Donovan Jackson's out again.
- 4:20Speaker 2: They sort of let the right guard competition continue into
- 4:22Speaker 2: the first game a little bit, and so obviously guys
- 4:26Speaker 2: are out during the fall and so that lack of continuity.
- 4:29Speaker 2: You know, I harp on this all the time, like
- 4:31Speaker 2: offensive line play, Like the more you can have your
- 4:33Speaker 2: five guys practicing together, working together, the better. Because of
- 4:37Speaker 2: these issues. You know, defenses aren't static. You have to,
- 4:41Speaker 2: you know, identify what's coming. Are they slanting, stunting? What
- 4:44Speaker 2: are you facing? Seth McLaughlin is a big, upgraded center,
- 4:49Speaker 2: so that's a great starting point. But I do think
- 4:52Speaker 2: it's going to take a little time. And the last
- 4:54Speaker 2: thing I would add is is Ryan Day pointed this
- 4:56Speaker 2: out himself during his weekly press conference. But it's also
- 5:00Speaker 2: not just the offensive line, Like the perimeter run blocking
- 5:02Speaker 2: needs to be better. They need better wide receiver brook blocking.
- 5:05Speaker 2: I think this has been sort of an under the
- 5:07Speaker 2: radar issue for the past few years, and it's it's
- 5:11Speaker 2: more incumbent on them this year because they're using because
- 5:14Speaker 2: Kelly uses so many perimeter run concepts, like you need
- 5:18Speaker 2: good outside blocking. And the final thing I would add is,
- 5:22Speaker 2: I do think that Quinn Shawn Jenkins at least early
- 5:26Speaker 2: was pressing a little bit. He was forcing, he wasn't
- 5:29Speaker 2: letting the holes developed. I thought he settled in as
- 5:31Speaker 2: the game went on. But I think all those factors
- 5:34Speaker 2: kind of led to a a up.
- 5:37Speaker 3: And down start for the run game in the first half.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Ast Achron, when we talked earlier in the year after
- 5:43Speaker 1: the Chip Kelly hire was made, I know you talked
- 5:46Speaker 1: about his influence in the run game and you sort
- 5:48Speaker 1: of mentioned it briefly there. One of the concepts that
- 5:50Speaker 1: we talked about back then that we saw on Saturday
- 5:53Speaker 1: against Akron was same side inside zone. Now, this doesn't
- 5:56Speaker 1: feel like it's that big of a change. It's kind
- 5:59Speaker 1: of really just where the running back is positioned, more
- 6:01Speaker 1: or less, but it feels like it makes a significant difference.
- 6:04Speaker 1: So can you explain the concept of same side inside
- 6:06Speaker 1: zone and why that does potentially make a difference for
- 6:09Speaker 1: the highest run attack.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Yeah, we, as you mentioned, we've talked about this a
- 6:13Speaker 2: little bit, but obviously when you are under when you're
- 6:16Speaker 2: in shotgun with an offset half back, and it's worth
- 6:19Speaker 2: pointing out also another change with Kelly is there's far
- 6:22Speaker 2: more shotgun with a half back to the side. They
- 6:25Speaker 2: use a little pistol on Saturday. Almost no under center.
- 6:29Speaker 2: But there's tendencies because most of the time when the
- 6:32Speaker 2: half back, let's hay his line up to the left
- 6:34Speaker 2: and shotgun, you expect the ball to go to the right,
- 6:36Speaker 2: to the opposite side of him. So defenses as a
- 6:41Speaker 2: result can we'll start slanting in certain ways expect playing
- 6:46Speaker 2: on those tendencies. So one thing Kelly has really done
- 6:50Speaker 2: since he went to UCLA is run the football to
- 6:53Speaker 2: the half back side. And yes, so you know in
- 6:56Speaker 2: this play, this was a Kelly's table at UCLA. You
- 6:59Speaker 2: kind of see like the backfield choreography, if you will,
- 7:04Speaker 2: is a little awkward for it the halfback hassen to lay,
- 7:06Speaker 2: but it's a really effective play, especially as they run
- 7:09Speaker 2: it here. So when they get a noseguard over the center,
- 7:12Speaker 2: what they'll do is they'll block down on that nose
- 7:15Speaker 2: and let the center pull around and effectively act as
- 7:18Speaker 2: a lead blocker, with which McLaughlan does here onto the
- 7:21Speaker 2: play sidelinebacker. And so again this is just a new
- 7:24Speaker 2: This is you know, one of as much a part
- 7:27Speaker 2: of Chip Kelly's repertoire as as I said, like running
- 7:30Speaker 2: standard inside z own or running pin and pole. So
- 7:33Speaker 2: this is a play that you will see a lot of.
- 7:35Speaker 2: They were in a few times Saturday, and you'll see
- 7:37Speaker 2: it a lot this fall.
- 7:39Speaker 1: All right, so you said pin and poll. Let's talk
- 7:41Speaker 1: pin and poll next one. This was a pin and
- 7:43Speaker 1: pole into the boundary. Ran had a backside RPO but
- 7:46Speaker 1: ended up making the handoff. This is the play if
- 7:48Speaker 1: you remember Trevon Henderson hadn't you know, look like he
- 7:51Speaker 1: might be going pretty far and slipped on the turf.
- 7:54Speaker 1: But that's that's the play we're talking about here. So
- 7:56Speaker 1: explain what pin and poll is and how that works
- 7:59Speaker 1: with this Ohio State office.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Again, so like that fold block we just discussed, like
- 8:03Speaker 2: this is a variation of outside zone essentially, but what
- 8:07Speaker 2: you're doing instead of everyone latterly zone stepping, you're trading
- 8:11Speaker 2: off responsibilities and so you'll have on the front side.
- 8:14Speaker 2: You know, if a lot if let's say the guards
- 8:17Speaker 2: covered the tackle to that side will block down on
- 8:20Speaker 2: that defensive tackle and the guard will pull around and
- 8:24Speaker 2: lead and they just covered uncovered rules. And you know, again,
- 8:29Speaker 2: this is a way Chip Kelly as opposed to how
- 8:32Speaker 2: Ohio State has run stretch in the past under Day
- 8:36Speaker 2: and Kevin Wilson like he wants the ball to get outside,
- 8:39Speaker 2: Like it's not to create cutbacks, it's like to get
- 8:41Speaker 2: to the perimeter. And so that's why, especially with traveon Henderson,
- 8:45Speaker 2: you're seeing a lot of these concepts. You know, Henderson
- 8:48Speaker 2: was played very well on Saturday. I think that Kelly
- 8:51Speaker 2: gets word of the benefit of getting Henderson space and
- 8:54Speaker 2: is featuring him on a lot of these outside concepts.
- 8:56Speaker 2: And yes, I think but for the slip, this probably
- 8:59Speaker 2: would have been a touchdown. But it's just this is
- 9:01Speaker 2: a hard play for the defensive defend. Like he ran
- 9:04Speaker 2: Pinn and Polls different ways on Saturday. There's a couple
- 9:07Speaker 2: of times he used a wide receiver from the backside
- 9:10Speaker 2: as an additional puller. But this one you basically have
- 9:14Speaker 2: as you said, so the de test to guard against
- 9:16Speaker 2: trips to the field. This play attacking the edge to
- 9:19Speaker 2: the boundary. You can see like how Kelly here too,
- 9:24Speaker 2: like the backside tackle basically pass sets, so when they
- 9:27Speaker 2: run Pinn and poll he'll essentially protect on the backside.
- 9:31Speaker 2: I think this is something he picked up from his
- 9:33Speaker 2: NFL days, you know, protecting the quarterback, And so you
- 9:35Speaker 2: almost get this like split where you're one side's using
- 9:38Speaker 2: a run play, one side of the lines running a
- 9:40Speaker 2: pass play, and then Howard just Will Howard's making the
- 9:43Speaker 2: decision on whether to give or keep. But you know,
- 9:46Speaker 2: we'll get into RPOs here a little bit. But every
- 9:49Speaker 2: another change on Saturday was every run play was paired
- 9:53Speaker 2: with some type of live mostly run pass option, but
- 9:57Speaker 2: also occasional a run read option for Will Howard give
- 10:00Speaker 2: or key.
- 10:01Speaker 1: All right, So now moving on to RPO. Of course,
- 10:04Speaker 1: run pass option, just like the name says, you have
- 10:07Speaker 1: with that, you have a decision to make, and if
- 10:09Speaker 1: the defense is doing one thing, you're running and if
- 10:11Speaker 1: you're doing doing something else, you're passing. And a lot
- 10:14Speaker 1: of times that's just a straight numbers game. Do you
- 10:16Speaker 1: have more guys, do you outnumber them somewhere? Then do
- 10:19Speaker 1: that thing. And it's something that if you do it
- 10:21Speaker 1: right and you read it right, it can be almost
- 10:23Speaker 1: impossible for the defensive stop. So here's one where the
- 10:26Speaker 1: run option is inside zone and that you've got is
- 10:29Speaker 1: this as a backside arrow RPO, which I will say
- 10:32Speaker 1: I definitely know what that means. Ross, Why don't you
- 10:34Speaker 1: tell everyone else and explain the numbers game involved in
- 10:38Speaker 1: pulling them.
- 10:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Again, so we got the same a similar concept here
- 10:41Speaker 2: where we got this time trips to the boundary and
- 10:46Speaker 2: the inside zone going to the field, and so again
- 10:49Speaker 2: every they used a wide variety of run pass options
- 10:55Speaker 2: like it's well beyond what Ryan Day has ever been
- 10:58Speaker 2: done before or maybe perhaps comfortable doing. It's very interesting,
- 11:02Speaker 2: like it like he Chip Kelly changes up, Like you'll
- 11:07Speaker 2: see the same run concept with different RPOs.
- 11:09Speaker 3: So like you know we saw on Saturday.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Sometimes they'd run it with like a backside, a little
- 11:14Speaker 2: quick out, you know, or like a hitch and get
- 11:17Speaker 2: your five or six yards this way. But they used
- 11:20Speaker 2: the slot receiver a mecha buka here. But also they
- 11:23Speaker 2: did it with Brennan inns in different ways to get
- 11:26Speaker 2: to this same kind of concept where you're basically attacking
- 11:28Speaker 2: the flat with a couple of elite blockers. So they
- 11:30Speaker 2: a couple of times they came in motion here you
- 11:32Speaker 2: can see like a Bouka is basically faking that he's
- 11:35Speaker 2: going to down block to help the run play and
- 11:37Speaker 2: then cuts back outside. And this one's an easy we
- 11:41Speaker 2: read for power because you have three over two you
- 11:43Speaker 2: have the two blockers for the two defensive backs and
- 11:46Speaker 2: then so no one to account for Abuka. And you know,
- 11:48Speaker 2: again these are ways you can tell that unlike in
- 11:52Speaker 2: previous years. Again, like Chip Kelly is not going to
- 11:55Speaker 2: allow the backside of the defense to attack the run play,
- 11:59Speaker 2: and like, you know, it'll be interesting to see when
- 12:03Speaker 2: they play, you know, a higher level competition, whether they
- 12:07Speaker 2: mix in more reruns for Howard as opposed to primarily RPOs,
- 12:12Speaker 2: because obviously we saw on Saturday, you know, Howard can
- 12:15Speaker 2: be a pretty effective runner, and maybe Ab'll to mix
- 12:16Speaker 2: that up even more, more of a fifty to fifty split.
- 12:19Speaker 2: But it's just something that's constantly live for them now
- 12:22Speaker 2: in addition to the more diverse run games. So like
- 12:25Speaker 2: when we talk about the run game success, again, these
- 12:29Speaker 2: are the kind of things like it's not just the
- 12:30Speaker 2: actual run plays themselves, Like when they are running RPOs,
- 12:34Speaker 2: those are an extension of the run game. And so
- 12:37Speaker 2: if they gain fifteen yards on a quote unquote pass play,
- 12:41Speaker 2: but it's a run pass option that was opened up
- 12:43Speaker 2: because of the run play, because they have the numbers here,
- 12:45Speaker 2: because Akron is concerned about the run itself, all right.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Next up. This is going to be one that I'm
- 12:51Speaker 1: sure everyone remembers the second touchdown to Jeremiah Smith. This
- 12:55Speaker 1: was one that was sort of set up for success
- 12:58Speaker 1: with some pre snap motion that sort of tipped off
- 13:00Speaker 1: the Ohio State offense about which kind of coverage they
- 13:03Speaker 1: were probably facing and then made this a much easier
- 13:06Speaker 1: throw for Will Howard.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Again, so lots of pre snap motion. Saw a lot
- 13:10Speaker 2: of that on Saturday, a lot of going back and
- 13:13Speaker 2: forth between like tight bunch and spreading out. But here
- 13:15Speaker 2: you get you know, your standard Jelanie Thurman going in
- 13:18Speaker 2: motion across the formation. Obviously, the the defensive back follows,
- 13:23Speaker 2: which is a man indicator, and this is kind of
- 13:25Speaker 2: a you know, as I say in the post, they
- 13:27Speaker 2: run snag which is a triangle concept that has been
- 13:30Speaker 2: a Ryan Day and Chip Kelly stable for a long
- 13:33Speaker 2: time to the near side, and then they just have
- 13:36Speaker 2: a backside glance at Jeremiah Smith and obviously the play action,
- 13:40Speaker 2: Will Howard turns his back, which adds to the run threat.
- 13:43Speaker 2: But he knows from that pre snap motion that he's
- 13:46Speaker 2: getting man coverage to the backside, and so that's where
- 13:50Speaker 2: he goes to the glance route.
- 13:52Speaker 3: You know, I think.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Howard there's certainly places that I could nitpick his reads
- 13:58Speaker 2: on Saturday in terms of his aggressions that there was
- 14:02Speaker 2: a few times that he locked on a little bit
- 14:05Speaker 2: if you put Smith in Abuca to one side, that
- 14:09Speaker 2: he would get a little locked on to that side
- 14:11Speaker 2: of the field. I mean, I guess you know, I
- 14:12Speaker 2: know you're you're giggling. It's hard not to write like you're.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Who among us, don't ross who among us?
- 14:18Speaker 2: Hard not to default to that when in doubt. But
- 14:22Speaker 2: the but overall, I mean, what I was impressed with
- 14:26Speaker 2: was his accuracy, Like you know that that goes a
- 14:28Speaker 2: long way, like he'll I think he'll get more and
- 14:30Speaker 2: more comfortable. But I thought he'd put his ball placement
- 14:33Speaker 2: was really good, and you know he had obviously, as
- 14:36Speaker 2: I said, we saw what he adds as a runner.
- 14:39Speaker 2: I think he himself said this week that there was
- 14:42Speaker 2: probably a few times that he could have captain ran
- 14:44Speaker 2: rather than just throwing the ball away.
- 14:46Speaker 3: And I agree with that.
- 14:47Speaker 2: So I think that'll be continue to be a weapon
- 14:50Speaker 2: to again ad yards in the offense.
- 14:53Speaker 1: So now on to the other side of the ball.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Defense had a pretty good day overall, and one thing
- 14:58Speaker 1: you noted is they ran a lot of count recover four. Now,
- 15:01Speaker 1: I think people probably have some sense for what cover
- 15:03Speaker 1: four is. What can you explain what country cover for
- 15:06Speaker 1: is And is that something that is a new ish
- 15:08Speaker 1: thing that they're running more of it this year or
- 15:10Speaker 1: is it something we saw a lot of last year.
- 15:12Speaker 2: It's yeah, that's hat tip to Devin Radcliffe for that
- 15:15Speaker 2: term country is just generally you can put that in
- 15:17Speaker 2: front of any zone coverage and it just means spot drops.
- 15:20Speaker 3: So as opposed to, you.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Know, matching concepts that Nick Saban has made famous that
- 15:28Speaker 2: we've talked about before, where you're you're playing a zone,
- 15:31Speaker 2: but you're you're playing a man within that zone and
- 15:34Speaker 2: you're trade essentially like a matchup zone in basketball where
- 15:36Speaker 2: you're trading off and playing man. This is like your
- 15:39Speaker 2: you have your zone right, you have you split the
- 15:42Speaker 2: deep field into force and you are you are eyes
- 15:46Speaker 2: on the quarterback and playing a more traditional zone. It
- 15:51Speaker 2: it picked up more and more last year once Lathan
- 15:54Speaker 2: Ransom was out and Sunny Styles had to play boundary
- 15:57Speaker 2: safety and we saw it a lot again on Saturday.
- 16:01Speaker 2: I mean, Jim Knowles has had such an interesting progression
- 16:04Speaker 2: at Ohio State because his first year, as much discussed,
- 16:08Speaker 2: I mean, it was almost all single high coverages and
- 16:13Speaker 2: then you know, now it's becoming increasingly this cover four.
- 16:18Speaker 2: You know, I know he's made the point he doesn't
- 16:20Speaker 2: really like to match, and so this is sort of
- 16:22Speaker 2: what you get the cover four I will.
- 16:27Speaker 3: He did, as Ryan.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Day mentioned post game, they did tighten down a little
- 16:30Speaker 2: bit because as you see in this clip, like the
- 16:32Speaker 2: weakness of this coverage is you only have three underneath
- 16:35Speaker 2: defenders and so that that puts a lot of train
- 16:38Speaker 2: on the linebackers to begin with, and that's particularly to
- 16:41Speaker 2: the boundary flat. You know, I have as readers a
- 16:45Speaker 2: bucket huddled and probably know by now I am it
- 16:49Speaker 2: was not high on C. J. Hicks's play on Saturday,
- 16:52Speaker 2: and that's a continuation of what I've seen thus far
- 16:56Speaker 2: from him. And so I thought Akron played fine the
- 16:59Speaker 2: fish a little bit with him and attacked him, particularly
- 17:02Speaker 2: these situations where he had to defend in space.
- 17:05Speaker 3: But that's sort of why Akron.
- 17:07Speaker 2: You know, they kind of dinked and dunked their way
- 17:09Speaker 2: to some ball control with not a lot of yards,
- 17:11Speaker 2: but they were able to hit some of these boundary
- 17:13Speaker 2: plays or use a ton of different types of Joe
- 17:17Speaker 2: moorehead RPOs and you know short yardage wrinkles faking the
- 17:22Speaker 2: tight end is the ball carrier and then release him
- 17:24Speaker 2: the flat to gain some yards. But you know, I
- 17:27Speaker 2: think the cover four is you will see that increasingly
- 17:31Speaker 2: from Knowles when the other team has a quarterback run threat,
- 17:36Speaker 2: because then both safeties can come downhill to play the run.
- 17:39Speaker 2: And you know, Ransom in particular is very aggressive coming down.
- 17:43Speaker 2: He's very happy to come downhill and attack a lot
- 17:45Speaker 2: of scrub mentions. So that Cover four.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Gives the safeties the opportunity to do that.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Next up, you know you mentioned Lathan Ransom loves to
- 17:54Speaker 1: come downhill. Is the boundary safety, the bandit in the
- 17:58Speaker 1: Ohio state sort of no clachure now think of him
- 18:01Speaker 1: as sort of the box safety, but not always because
- 18:04Speaker 1: the next one they're playing three high and the guy
- 18:06Speaker 1: who's brot heading down to the box is Caleb Downs,
- 18:08Speaker 1: who you think of as the adjuster or the deep safety.
- 18:10Speaker 1: So explain this look that they had three high look
- 18:13Speaker 1: but Caleb Downs in the box and not I'll hie.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Yep, sure, So I mean Noles at Oklahoma State use
- 18:19Speaker 2: a lot of you know, three safety or three high concepts, right,
- 18:23Speaker 2: and you don't see as much of it at Ohio
- 18:27Speaker 2: State or haven't. But they have the ability to do it,
- 18:31Speaker 2: and I think we'll probably see more and more of
- 18:32Speaker 2: it this year. I would say, unlike the offense, I thought,
- 18:35Speaker 2: the defense is very vanilla in this game. You know,
- 18:40Speaker 2: you saw a couple like the Hicksack was a creeper.
- 18:43Speaker 2: So when you bring you know, you bring a blitz,
- 18:45Speaker 2: but you rush for and you drop a defensive lineman
- 18:48Speaker 2: in the coverage. Obviously they you know, they brought Ransom
- 18:52Speaker 2: a couple of times as a boundary safety.
- 18:54Speaker 3: But overall it is pretty pretty vanilla.
- 18:56Speaker 2: But this gives you some flavor what they can do,
- 18:59Speaker 2: you know, possible by the versatility of their three you
- 19:03Speaker 2: know safeties or two safeties in a nickel whatever terminology
- 19:06Speaker 2: you want to use. For Jordan Hancock, but I mean
- 19:09Speaker 2: Handcock is He's gives you the ability to do a.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Lot of stuff because he's very good and very versatile.
- 19:14Speaker 2: And so yes, as you say here you can you
- 19:17Speaker 2: know Knowles tends to play cover three to the weak side,
- 19:21Speaker 2: where as you said, like Ransom will be coming down
- 19:25Speaker 2: as one of the four underneath defenders cover three. You know,
- 19:27Speaker 2: you have three deep, three deep defenders. Four underneath is
- 19:30Speaker 2: the zone and so here though they rotate and so
- 19:33Speaker 2: they go to the strong side. So that allows Downs,
- 19:35Speaker 2: who's you know, to technically their field safety or middle safety.
- 19:39Speaker 2: You tend to think of him as sort of being
- 19:41Speaker 2: like the last line of defense, the Malie Cooker, if
- 19:43Speaker 2: you will. But he he can give you, you know again,
- 19:47Speaker 2: more versatility. He can play man, he can come into
- 19:49Speaker 2: the box, he can come down hell. And so here
- 19:52Speaker 2: they rotate down, so Downs comes down, and then Hancock
- 19:55Speaker 2: rotates back as one of the deep defenders, and so
- 19:59Speaker 2: this you know, they did this with Cover too as well,
- 20:02Speaker 2: with Hancock taking a deep path and so again, I
- 20:05Speaker 2: just think we'll see more and more of this. Obviously
- 20:07Speaker 2: their safety and defensive back personnel allows them to do
- 20:11Speaker 2: a lot of things.
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