Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Kent Riddle on Building a Culture That Retains Talent and Expands Access to Rehabilitation Care
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- 0:26- This is Carly Beam with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:28- podcast.
- 0:29- I'm recording live today at our sixteenth annual
- 0:32- meeting here in Chicago, and I'm thrilled to
- 0:34- be joined by Kent Riddle, CEO of Mary
- 0:37- Free Bed Rehabilitation Hospital.
- 0:39- Kent, thank you for being here today. Carly,
- 0:42- thanks for having me. So before we dive
- 0:44- into some questions, could you introduce yourself and
- 0:47- tell us more about the role and scope
- 0:49- of your organization?
- 0:51- What's really commanding most of your attention as
- 0:53- a leader?
- 0:54- You bet. I came to health care in
- 0:56- an odd kind of way. Twenty three years
- 0:59- ago, my wife was hit by a drunk
- 1:00- driver on a highway
- 1:02- head on and,
- 1:03- was in the ICU and in coma and
- 1:06- was taken over to Mary Free Bed. And
- 1:09- I didn't know anything about Mary Free Bed.
- 1:11- I was an engineer, owned a business, a
- 1:12- national business, developing real estate around the country
- 1:15- for Fortune 100 companies, and
- 1:18- I became enamored during her stay at Mary
- 1:21- Free Bed, nine weeks inpatient
- 1:23- and years of outpatient
- 1:25- and eventually driver's rehabilitation
- 1:27- at Merry Free Bed. I became enamored with
- 1:29- the culture and the people, so I became
- 1:31- a volunteer and and ended up chairing the
- 1:34- board, for a number of years. And then,
- 1:37- out of desperation, they asked me to take
- 1:39- over as CEO. I had sold a business
- 1:41- and had time on my hands, and I
- 1:43- said it's a terrible idea, but I'll do
- 1:45- it
- 1:45- for a few months. You don't have to
- 1:47- pay me. I said I'll just do it
- 1:49- and see if we can figure something out
- 1:51- for the organization, and we'll form a search
- 1:53- committee. And, well, anyway, that was fifteen years
- 1:56- ago, and I'm still CEO.
- 1:58- Wow. It's such an incredible story. Yeah. It's,
- 2:01- Mary Free Bed about the organization, Mary Free
- 2:03- Bed is,
- 2:04- 135
- 2:05- years old,
- 2:07- started by a group of women who raised
- 2:09- money for a free bed for the population
- 2:12- that couldn't pay for a bed in the
- 2:14- local hospital,
- 2:15- and, that bed is now 520.
- 2:18- They're not all free, but we always do
- 2:20- have a few Mhmm. That are because we're
- 2:22- nonprofit.
- 2:23- Yeah. But it's become the largest nonprofit
- 2:27- rehabilitation
- 2:27- hospital system in the country now. That's really
- 2:30- impressive.
- 2:31- And you talk about your what your top
- 2:34- priorities
- 2:35- are for this year as a leader?
- 2:38- Yeah. You know, I'm working on culture a
- 2:40- lot now,
- 2:42- probably mostly because of the talent gap. Yeah.
- 2:45- We are trying to be also become the
- 2:47- the best in the world. We're highly ranked
- 2:50- with US News and World Report, been in
- 2:51- the top 10 for a few years,
- 2:55- but that's not good enough. And so,
- 2:58- culturally, we're trying to get all of our
- 3:00- leaders,
- 3:01- a few 100 leaders,
- 3:03- to,
- 3:04- to care for their staff well enough that
- 3:07- their staff never leaves, and that's our answer
- 3:10- to the talent gap.
- 3:12- We're growing as well. We're in we're building
- 3:14- our thirteenth hospital. We're in five states, and
- 3:17- Incredible. So it's,
- 3:19- it's important
- 3:21- for me to spend time on culture and
- 3:22- leadership development just to try to get everybody
- 3:25- in the system to
- 3:27- to work the same. And Yeah. So so,
- 3:29- you know, growing workforce, growing a hospital base
- 3:33- as well. Yeah. Can you talk about you
- 3:35- know, are there any recent decisions
- 3:38- or pivots that, you know, really helped when
- 3:41- it came to
- 3:42- aligning people, resources, or capabilities?
- 3:46- Yeah. Great question. I,
- 3:50- I did,
- 3:51- had to make a change with, our HR
- 3:53- leadership
- 3:54- and leadership development
- 3:56- because,
- 3:58- we were seeing turnover and,
- 4:01- again, very concerned about the talent gap that
- 4:03- that,
- 4:04- the need for nurses. And as we grow,
- 4:06- having to hire more nurses, as an example,
- 4:09- more therapists, more physicians.
- 4:11- And,
- 4:12- so that was a pivot to make a
- 4:15- change. It took about a year,
- 4:17- to to sort of implement the whole change,
- 4:19- and now I think we're starting to reap
- 4:21- the benefits of that. Awesome. Can you can
- 4:24- you dive in just a little bit more
- 4:26- on how
- 4:27- that moment, that decision
- 4:29- really challenged your assumptions?
- 4:32- Yeah, Carly. I think I,
- 4:36- I think I was underestimating the
- 4:39- societal challenge that employees face,
- 4:43- and I think once we a lot of
- 4:45- that was brought to light, just the reason
- 4:47- that people were,
- 4:49- turning over and and leaving,
- 4:51- Oftentimes, it,
- 4:53- it, you know, wasn't wasn't because of pay,
- 4:56- wasn't sort of obvious things,
- 4:58- and I think that was enlightening to me.
- 5:01- I'm in a older you know, I'm a
- 5:03- baby boomer, and so sort of came from
- 5:06- a world where, you know, everybody worked full
- 5:08- time. We didn't have,
- 5:09- you know, part timers. And and so that
- 5:12- that flexibility, we've just had to really change
- 5:14- it up from an HR standpoint in order
- 5:17- to because we wanna retain all our staff.
- 5:19- Absolutely.
- 5:20- And when you think about the forces reshaping
- 5:23- health care right now,
- 5:25- where do you believe leaders
- 5:27- need to be more decisive?
- 5:30- Well, interesting. Probably,
- 5:33- maybe it's a different area. I see tremendous
- 5:36- waste still in health care, and I mean
- 5:39- across all health systems,
- 5:41- certainly between insurance companies, payers, and and providers,
- 5:45- providers like ourselves,
- 5:47- and the streamlining of that could be could
- 5:49- be really great. As a person who came
- 5:51- from business
- 5:52- and then into health care late in his
- 5:54- career after thirty some years, I saw tremendous
- 5:57- waste, and I still see it throughout.
- 5:59- Just
- 6:01- even
- 6:02- organizations that are trying to
- 6:04- become more efficient, and we went through a
- 6:07- long phase where we really worked on efficiency,
- 6:11- and that's
- 6:12- reaped a lot of benefit now,
- 6:15- and and so we're able to invest in
- 6:17- things. And so I I think continuing
- 6:19- to
- 6:20- I think the answer really is,
- 6:23- we really can come up with more efficiencies
- 6:25- in the way we deliver care, not just
- 6:27- Mary Free Bed, but, I mean, health care
- 6:29- in general. Yeah. And are there any other
- 6:32- big lessons that you took away from your
- 6:34- time working in business that, you know, still
- 6:38- is very relevant to what you're doing in
- 6:40- health care today? Oh, I love that question,
- 6:44- and don't often get asked it. I,
- 6:47- had developed real estate for a lot of
- 6:49- the Fortune 100 companies, as I mentioned, but
- 6:52- PayPal, eBay,
- 6:54- Google. We did projects for, Northrop Grumman,
- 6:58- leading and I got to meet their leadership
- 7:00- teams. And I guess what I I take
- 7:02- away from that was
- 7:04- anything is possible.
- 7:05- Anything is possible. I like that. So we
- 7:07- have a real yes If it make if
- 7:09- we can make it make sense, the answer
- 7:11- is yes. We're gonna go do it. Mhmm.
- 7:13- So, we've really expanded programs. We're 14
- 7:16- times the size we were fifteen years ago
- 7:18- now in number of patients served, serving over
- 7:21- a 130,000
- 7:23- people a year,
- 7:25- and that I think it's because the team,
- 7:27- the esprit de corps among
- 7:29- our thousands of employees is, yes,
- 7:32- we can make it make sense. Let's go
- 7:33- do it. And, so there's this and I
- 7:36- think that comes from
- 7:37- these
- 7:38- companies that I I used to work for.
- 7:40- I like that. It's like a a real
- 7:42- kind of can do, yes, we can mindset
- 7:45- and understand. We can. Yeah. Yeah. And then
- 7:48- the last question I have for you is,
- 7:49- you know, as uncertainty, it's becoming the norm,
- 7:52- obviously.
- 7:53- Are there any
- 7:54- big leadership habits besides the and mindsets besides
- 7:58- the the yes we can that's been really
- 8:01- critical for you, your organization
- 8:04- moving forward?
- 8:06- Yeah. We're,
- 8:07- I think,
- 8:08- continuing to push our mission. You know, we're
- 8:11- in this, we have this amazing honor of
- 8:13- taking care of human beings and bringing them
- 8:17- back into lives they want to have, you
- 8:19- know, to in the case of rehabilitation, it's
- 8:22- to return function so so they can live
- 8:24- the lives they want, so they can love
- 8:25- again,
- 8:26- you know, work again, play again, learn again,
- 8:29- all the things that they want to do,
- 8:30- and and people come to us in health
- 8:33- care wanting hope, looking for hope, and they
- 8:36- they're looking for freedom, for, independence so they
- 8:39- can live their lives, and it's a real
- 8:42- honor. And so, I think,
- 8:44- one thing, you know, with the efficiencies that
- 8:47- have been gained in healthcare,
- 8:50- we we really have to remind even clinicians
- 8:53- why they're doing what they're doing, and so
- 8:56- I do that all the time and love
- 8:58- doing it, is just reminding so I think
- 9:00- we need to remind ourselves. I finished a
- 9:02- panel yesterday
- 9:03- that I was, on as a speaker, and
- 9:06- I said and, you know, it was just
- 9:08- the last thought, and I said, we can
- 9:10- all feel really good. We are we are
- 9:11- doing a really wonderful job for human beings,
- 9:15- in in giving them back their lives.
- 9:18- The it's the sea of people that need
- 9:21- our help is bigger than the number of
- 9:24- people we can get to. And so it's
- 9:26- just it's an unending opportunity, I guess, to
- 9:28- serve. I love that. Seeing opportunity more than
- 9:31- anything else. Yeah. Well, Kent, thank you so
- 9:34- much for joining us on the podcast. I
- 9:36- hope you enjoy the rest of this conference,
- 9:38- and I look forward to connecting again in
- 9:39- the future. Thank you, Carly.