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10-15: Benton is in! John Forslund and Farhan Lalji · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Rental Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by Coors Light, as cold as the Rockies. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's football! We got football tonight!
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks, Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: We have a damn near every day of the.
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  Speaker 3: Week these days. We were waiting for just, what, three
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  Speaker 3: days in between?
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  Speaker 2: Way to get back on the horse. Seahawks, Broncos tonight,
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  Speaker 2: JSN good to go, as if we were expecting anything different, really.
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  Speaker 2: No Zach Charbonnet, though. No linebacker Drake Thomas, though. They
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  Speaker 2: have been ruled out. So throwback game. I kind of
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  Speaker 2: like this. The throwback jerseys, Seahawks and Broncos both.
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  Speaker 4: Fans are way.
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  Speaker 5: More into jerseys than I thought before I got into
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  Speaker 5: this business.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a video game nerd like me, it's got
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  Speaker 2: Tecmo Super Bowl vibes.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Kraken in Tampa tonight, taking on the Lightning. That's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a tough one, but the Kraken, 5-2. You
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  Speaker 2: heard me correct, 5-2. They're going to try to make
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  Speaker 2: it 6-2 against a tough test. 4 o'clock puck drop tonight, 3.30.
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  Speaker 6: Yours truly, Chris.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be back right here in this same studio for
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  Speaker 2: this exact reason, for the Kraken in Tampa. Everett Fitzhugh,
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  Speaker 2: Al Koniski on site on 93.3 KJRFM in Tampa. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, John Forslund joining us here in the 10
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  Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Sounders fall into FC Dallas last night, 1-0.
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  Speaker 2: Next match coming up on Saturday, 7.30, again, as the
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  Speaker 2: Sounders host Montreal. Huskies football, they take on Purdue tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Softee will be on a plane, maybe on pins and
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  Speaker 2: needles under that seat. 5 o'clock kickoff, 1 p.m. Pre-game
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  Speaker 2: right here, 93.3 KJRFM. Elijah Brown will start QB1 for
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  Speaker 2: his first time ever at UW. Damon Williams is out
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  Speaker 2: in what is being termed as a, quote, significant rib.
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  Speaker 3: Injury, end quote.
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  Speaker 2: Now, convenient based on the fact of how little he
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  Speaker 2: played up to standards last time out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, I never want to see a
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  Speaker 5: player hurt, but it was definitely a situation as we
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  Speaker 5: have seen also over on the other side of the
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  Speaker 5: state with my cougs is that's there it it's a
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  Speaker 5: good time for a.
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  Speaker 2: Change elijah brown your next man up onto the show
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  Speaker 2: we go here we are because i mean i think
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  Speaker 2: we saw first game against washington state then the utah
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  Speaker 2: state debacle as well people are going to go to
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  Speaker 2: bed thinking uh-oh what's up with this football team and
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  Speaker 2: you go down the list every game except for this
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  Speaker 2: one the huskies are the underdog.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yep it's uh It is interesting, and I wonder
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  Speaker 5: if we see Elijah shine, what the fan reaction will be.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time we saw a star
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  Speaker 2: of DeMond Williams' stature with potential fall this fast and
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  Speaker 2: fall this far.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, it started last year with his
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  Speaker 5: attempt to leave. And I know that Jed Fish did
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  Speaker 5: a really good job, whether he was telling the truth
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  Speaker 5: and not necessarily covering for him.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He did a really good job.
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  Speaker 6: Rib injury. Heal up. Heal up.
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  Speaker 2: Get back soon. But it's Elijah Brown's turn. Mike Benton
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  Speaker 2: in for Greg Bell because Gray's catching a plane right
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  Speaker 2: now to Denver. He'll be on site for the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: and the Broncos tonight. So we've got a lot to
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  Speaker 2: get to. Greg, by the way, will be popping back
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  Speaker 2: in on this show later on because he and Farhan
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  Speaker 2: Lalji huddled up. And we're going to get to the general...
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  Speaker 2: Match up here. What's wrong with Bo Nix? Because this
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  Speaker 2: is also a big part of the conversation and how
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  Speaker 2: the Huskies can also, or the Huskies, the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a morning person here. How the Seahawks can
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  Speaker 3: bounce back.
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  Speaker 4: This is barely the morning.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a 7 to 10 p.m.
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  Speaker 5: Person.
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  Speaker 6: Come on now. You are.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you're a night owl. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: For you YouTubers, yes, this is full. This has got
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  Speaker 2: coffee in here. This might be my second or my
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  Speaker 2: third round.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 6: It's going to be a long day.
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  Speaker 5: Ben does these splits in a way no other does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got this. I got Kraken Tampa Bay later
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  Speaker 2: on here. I didn't screw the Kraken up there on that.
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  Speaker 2: But what's wrong with Bo Nix? Because the Seahawks are
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  Speaker 2: licking their chops on this and also a trip around
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  Speaker 2: the NFC West. So Farhan Lalji, that conversation coming up
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  Speaker 2: at 11 a.m. Before that, we're going to get to
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  Speaker 2: John Forslund also at 1020. And what's the state of
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  Speaker 2: the Kraken right now at 5-2? They came in with,
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  Speaker 2: let's just say, low expectations. Could they at least get
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  Speaker 2: into the playoff mix? That's usually code word for you've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of unproven talent. You've got maybe someone
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  Speaker 2: who's missing a star up front, which has been the
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  Speaker 2: case for this hockey team. But here they are scoring
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  Speaker 2: goals by the bunches, no matter who you're playing against.
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  Speaker 2: and they've won five of their first seven games. So
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  Speaker 2: how big of a sample size is this right now
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  Speaker 2: to really give an accurate judgment on how good this
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  Speaker 2: team is and how good they can be? They've looked great,
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  Speaker 2: but my goodness, you've got a big test coming up
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  Speaker 2: tonight in the Tampa Bay Lightning. So John Forslund, who
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  Speaker 2: was on a plane this morning, he had the Amazon
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  Speaker 2: Prime call last night for the Capitals and the Montreal Canadiens.
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  Speaker 2: He's getting a little bit of sleep right now. We'll
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  Speaker 2: wake him up at about 10, 20 or so. But
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  Speaker 2: my voice, your voice also.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he is on the road, right?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's Eastern time. He'll be fine.
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  Speaker 3: He's Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Planes, trains and automobiles. He told me he's only in
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  Speaker 2: town here in Seattle this month for a combined three days.
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  Speaker 3: They do have absolutely crazy.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like he literally has in and out surgical strike. Well,
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  Speaker 2: there's a five game road trip here to work around. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: he missed also one home game. That was a Vegas game.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's got TNT, he's got Amazon, so he's literally
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  Speaker 2: flying here, there, everywhere. His schedule is unbelievable. And I've
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  Speaker 2: talked to him before on this. He said, always take
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  Speaker 2: the 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 7: Flight.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do the red-eye, don't do later.
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  Speaker 2: That's where things can get scuttled, and I think you
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  Speaker 2: know you do this a lot for Washington State. The
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  Speaker 2: first flight out usually is the easiest one because you
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  Speaker 2: begin to have cancellations later.
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  Speaker 6: In the day.
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  Speaker 4: Cancellations, too.
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  Speaker 5: But if one plane, let's say even flying from Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 5: is coming in 30 minutes late, everything after that gets delayed.
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  Speaker 5: So if you get that first flight out, which is
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  Speaker 5: what I did last weekend out of Utah, I got
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  Speaker 5: into bed at 1.30.
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  Speaker 4: I had to get up at 4 a.m.
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  Speaker 5: 1.30 a.m. and got up at 4 a.m. to make
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  Speaker 5: that flight. But then you get a nice nap on
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  Speaker 5: the flight and then you're home for your regular day.
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  Speaker 2: I've done that before, too, even going from a crack
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  Speaker 2: and road game to a game situation the very next
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  Speaker 2: day where I wasn't on the road with the team.
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  Speaker 3: I was back in studio. Always take the morning flight.
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  Speaker 9: Always.
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  Speaker 10: Period.
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  Speaker 2: So speaking of flying, can the Seahawks succeed in the air? That,
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  Speaker 2: for me, is the biggest question for tonight, Jess. Because
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  Speaker 2: the QB situation right now is code yellow. The running
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  Speaker 2: back situation right now is code red.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 2: Price is out. He can't hang on to the football.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnet is out. He's not going to be walking
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  Speaker 2: in that door for at least another week. So as
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  Speaker 2: of right now, you're having to deal with a running
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  Speaker 2: back room that's got Emmanuel Wilson, George Alani, who should
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  Speaker 2: not be taking RB1 reps. But yet, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: learn potentially of a new name that was brought up,
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  Speaker 2: and I give credit here. Greg, Hugh Millen, Chuck Anders
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  Speaker 2: had a great conversation this morning on the 12th Man Roundtable,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Henry. This is not going to be a fix-all situation,
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  Speaker 2: but it's patchwork here for a football team that needs
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  Speaker 2: patchwork while Sam Darnold tries to figure out the turnover situation.
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  Speaker 5: And he's also someone we haven't seen, right? And it
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  Speaker 5: means that the opponent has no game tape on him either.
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  Speaker 5: And we also know, I think that it is a
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  Speaker 5: benefit to the Seahawks knowing how damaged the Broncos' secondary
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  Speaker 5: is right now as well. And this might also give
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  Speaker 5: Sam a little, just a bit more flexibility in the
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  Speaker 5: pocket if he wants to go deep.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get to this at 1045 because you've
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  Speaker 2: hinted with what we're going to get to. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to give folks one name under the spotlight that needs
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  Speaker 2: a big, big game.
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  Speaker 3: Make or break.
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  Speaker 2: I think you know who it is, but the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: have to win this game in the air because without question.
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  Speaker 3: Because Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 2: Right now apparently is afraid of his own shadow with
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  Speaker 2: throwing the football longer than 15 yards. And the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: right now are more banged up than a MASH unit
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  Speaker 2: in their secondary. I mean, for goodness sakes, JSN is
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  Speaker 2: ready for a four-course meal. So I'm going to give
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  Speaker 2: you that one name of 1045. Who needs a big
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  Speaker 2: game tonight? I think you know who it's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: But JSN's going to play.
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  Speaker 3: Leonard Williams is going to play. He could get multiple sacks,
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 7: In this game tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a good one for him. Set up
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  Speaker 4: for Big Cat.
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  Speaker 3: He had a rough week last week against the 49ers.
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  Speaker 2: His season sack total and QB pressure numbers, it gives
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  Speaker 2: you context, of course, for his impact. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: with the lack of sacks he had last week, I
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  Speaker 2: just think the time is ripe for him. With his
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  Speaker 2: ability to collapse the pocket. That could disrupt Bo Nix's
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  Speaker 2: rhythm because he's not doing much to avoid the branding
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  Speaker 2: of Captain Checkdown.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't need to be a sack.
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  Speaker 5: Just scare him. Just get him for a loss. It
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  Speaker 5: doesn't need to be just make him throw the ball away.
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  Speaker 5: Put him behind the sticks in certain situations.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think he's going to gobble him up.
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  Speaker 2: There are three quarterbacks qualified by the numbers who have
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  Speaker 2: not yet thrown a touchdown pass when under pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Guess who's one of them? Bo Nix. Bo Nix. So
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix is going to be front and center of this.
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  Speaker 2: Conversation, no matter what direction you go for the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: and the Broncos. But we're going to get some more
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  Speaker 2: QB talk at 1045+. Also, Bo Nix will be a part,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, of the conversation between you'll hear from Greg
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  Speaker 2: and Farhan Lalji at 11 a.m. But on the Kraken side,
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, they are rising. They are ascending.
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  Speaker 2: Do they have another gear to get to against Tampa Bay?
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  Speaker 2: Because 5-2 is a great start, but how fair is
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  Speaker 2: it to judge with how good this team can be?
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to John Forslund on that. How real are
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  Speaker 2: the Kraken? That conversation up next here at 93.3 KJRFM.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up later on in this hour, the bright lights.
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  Speaker 3: Jess, I believe you have the pick here for today, correct?
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  Speaker 7: I do.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I can't wait for this one.
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  Speaker 7: We do this every week here.
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  Speaker 2: Without further ado, we mentioned, of course, 1047 coming up,
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  Speaker 2: the bright lights. This man's always ready here for the
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  Speaker 2: bright lights. Joining us in the Beacon Plumbing Hotline, the
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  Speaker 2: one and only John Forslund, TV play-by-play voice for the Kraken,
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  Speaker 2: and also last night on Amazon Prime for the National Game.
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  Speaker 3: Johnny, you were in D.C. Sunday, then back to D.C.
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  Speaker 6: Last night.
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  Speaker 2: You have a room under secret terms like back at
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  Speaker 2: the Pentagon or something now?
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  Speaker 8: No, they keep moving me around because they know I
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  Speaker 8: can't remember where the heck I am half the time.
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  Speaker 9: So that way they play games on me.
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  Speaker 8: No different hotels, Mike, just to mix it up.
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  Speaker 9: And now we're here in Tampa and a beautiful day.
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  Speaker 3: It's great to have you.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm outnumbered now because there are two Springfield College
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  Speaker 2: alums joining me on this phone call with me, Jess.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Power, mind and body.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 9: Spirit, mind, and body.
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  Speaker 4: When I say power, sorry, I'm a little competitive.
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  Speaker 2: Power, spirit leads to power. I'm the one who's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be groggy for the 10 a.m. hour, not you, Jess.
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  Speaker 10: Come on.
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  Speaker 5: Spirit, mind, and body. That was the triangle. That was
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  Speaker 5: the triangle. I've been featured in the Triangle magazine, as
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  Speaker 5: I bet you have been, too.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, this is it. That's right.
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  Speaker 8: And that's the key to humanics and everything else you're
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  Speaker 8: supposed to learn there that I've forgotten.
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  Speaker 9: So that's all good.
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  Speaker 3: I love these vibes going into this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Johnny, Tampa Bay today, the story of this Kraken team
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  Speaker 2: right now, 5-2, and I guess how real they are.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you get wins against perceived cakewalks like maybe Calgary.
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  Speaker 3: You beat Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that game should not have gone to OT, but
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  Speaker 2: this team looks promising against Edmonton despite losing by a
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  Speaker 2: razor-thin margin.
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  Speaker 3: They beat a Capitals team that's reloaded. You just saw
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  Speaker 3: them again.
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  Speaker 2: So this seems out to a great start by the
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  Speaker 2: numbers here, but what's your level of optimism right now
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  Speaker 2: with a record of 5-2?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think.
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  Speaker 8: Optimism is really high right now, and it should be.
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  Speaker 8: You know, Mike, when you look at the start of
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  Speaker 8: any season, and you mentioned the Calgary games and those circumstances,
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  Speaker 8: I always think of, okay, it's a small sample size.
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  Speaker 8: They've only been at it for seven games, but what
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  Speaker 8: if they had lost those games? you know, it'd be
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  Speaker 8: a catastrophe, right? If it's two up and five down,
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  Speaker 8: everybody's asking questions.
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  Speaker 9: So it's not.
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  Speaker 8: So that means no matter who you play, you know,
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  Speaker 8: everybody starts with a clean slate and sure there's, there's
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  Speaker 8: teams like Calgary and others at Philadelphia, you know, they're
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  Speaker 8: really struggling. Then Detroit with some of their, you know,
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  Speaker 8: off ice concerns they have right now with players and
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  Speaker 8: holdouts doesn't matter. The Kraken have been able to take
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  Speaker 8: care of business and play an efficient team game, which
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  Speaker 8: is going to lead them to be competitive. And really,
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  Speaker 8: that's all you can hope for right now. And as
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  Speaker 8: I said at the start of the season, let's not
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  Speaker 8: lead the fans down a path of this euphoria. It's
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  Speaker 8: just take it a game-by-game situation.
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  Speaker 9: Take a look at it and then assess where you're at.
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  Speaker 9: And I really am.
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  Speaker 8: Encouraged by the way they're playing. I like their team game.
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  Speaker 8: I like how they've recovered from lapses. There's going to
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  Speaker 8: be a lot of mistakes, especially with a shortened training camp.
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  Speaker 8: And I think we're seeing that all over the league.
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  Speaker 8: By and large, the Kraken have met every challenge. And
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  Speaker 8: now as this trip moves along here to Florida, you know,
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  Speaker 8: on one side of the coast, you're going to get
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  Speaker 8: Tampa tonight, an excellent team, maybe the best team in
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  Speaker 8: this five-game segment. But closely behind them are the Florida Panthers,
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  Speaker 8: who they get on Saturday.
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  Speaker 9: So they get to measure themselves, too, as we go
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  Speaker 9: along here.
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  Speaker 8: Beat who you're supposed to, I guess. But I'm not
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  Speaker 8: sure they're in that position yet as a team. But
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  Speaker 8: just take the wins and relish those. and then see
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  Speaker 8: if you're ready for the next challenge. And this will
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  Speaker 8: be a mighty one tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And I mentioned before, too, the team game is looking
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  Speaker 2: like it's coming together here. But I said this before,
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  Speaker 2: you know, none of this matters unless your goaltending is
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  Speaker 2: performing up to snuff. And my goodness, how good has
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  Speaker 2: Philip Grubauer been so far in this stretch? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he looked great against Edmonton despite the loss. You also
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  Speaker 2: put him in there against the Red Wings. He comes
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: out looking okay. Looked great against Philadelphia. But then to
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: highlight this, there seems to be a change and a
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: shift in attitude on this team. And it kind of
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: goes back to this tussle he had with Trevor Zegras.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: And there is some gamesmanship. Zegras goes in, pokes him
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: after a whistle.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Later on, Gruby makes a glove save.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: You know, scoops up with some mustard on the hot dog,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: maybe throws a puck back at Zegras and Zegras tosses
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: it right back at him. Pandora's box opens and then
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Grubauer absolutely buries Zegras in the post game scrum. So
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I think number one, what'd you make out of that tussle?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: And number two, from an overall scale, how does that
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: kind of define how this team is really engaging the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: concept of conflict?
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: Well, let's address this topic and the questioning two ways.
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: First of all, the goaltending of Grubauer and Joey Decord.
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: Going into the game against Philadelphia on Tuesday night, I
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: don't have the numbers coming out of Philly, but the
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: Kraken going into that game had allowed 71 high-danger chances.
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: And that's the most at that time of any team
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: in the league. So camouflaged within... the euphoria if I
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: go back to that word again of these wins and
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: how they're playing and how resilient they've been is the
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: fact that they have given up chances and the goalies
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: have been able to save the bacon so that's always
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: a good thing so both are playing well I'm really
• 17:23
  Speaker 8: happy to see Grubauer get off to the start based
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: on his second half last year where I felt he
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: was the better of the two and you know he
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: did everything he could to try and keep the Kraken
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: in a position to recover and in the second half,
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: which is we know they never did.
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: So both goalies are on their game.
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: Now, as far as the emotions of everything, I do believe,
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: I do believe this team is playing as they should
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: with a chip on their shoulder. I do believe they
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: feel they've been shunned by a lot of the people
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: around the league who talk about the league and, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: put the Kraken on the non-watch list and their lack
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: of relevance and the whole Jason Robertson thing in the offseason.
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: You know, all these things come together. And they need
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: every edge possible. And if they're taking on that demeanor,
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: good for them because they need to. They need to
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: rally around something. And that's going to push them in
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: the right direction. I think they do have chemistry. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: think they've always had good chemistry. But I do believe
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: that maybe there's been an infusion of some youth.
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: A couple of new guys. You know, this whole thing
• 18:31
  Speaker 9: is coming together.
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: And when you go on the road early in the
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: season like they are, It doesn't matter how many points
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: you get out of the 10 points that are available.
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: If you play the five games as a team and
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: you come together and you have some unity, it's going
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: to bear out well for you as the season progresses.
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: So right now, they're killing two birds here by winning
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: and doing all that. So, yeah, I see a team
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: that plays together, stands up for each other. These are
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: things that could be questioned in the past, and hopefully
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: this will continue. Because again, they're going to need all
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: of this. They're going to need intangibles to be successful.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: They still don't have the reliance on high-end talent to
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: win games like some teams do. This is a team
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: that needs every kind of intangible to help them grind
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: through to get what they need.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: John Forslund joining us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Again,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the Kraken taking on Tampa Bay. And we're going to
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: get to that test here coming up in just a bit.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: But, Johnny, you touched on the fact that this team
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: is still searching for a top-end kind of guy. We've
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: had the conversation before on how development certainly matters. But
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: for the short term, they're going to have to rely
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: on some of the parts, lines one through line four.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And I think the returns are pretty promising in that,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you know, figuring this out right now, small sample size,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: but your top nine guys as far as scoring are
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: near point per game. and they're spread across all four
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: lines plus a couple of d-men in there in vince
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: dunn and brandon montour so with what they had to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: get out and do offensively are there any surprises right
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: now in this mix as far as who is pushing
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: in so far for offense.
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: No, I think it's obvious that the fourth line contribution,
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: the Freddie Goudreau line, would be the most surprising, right?
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: That they've been able to produce as many points as
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: they have. That's pretty obvious to everybody. But I really
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: believe that there's two things that have happened here. Number one,
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: the emergence of Berkeley Catton. Berkeley Catton now looks like
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: a reliable National Hockey League center that has the potential
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: to continue to take steps to put them at the
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: high end of the lineup. And hopefully at the end
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: of the season, maybe he is. And in the meantime,
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: I think what's happened here, because some of these younger guys,
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: even Sam Miscavige being.
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: New, McMahon being new, but some of.
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: These guys have pushed the guys who've been with the
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: team for a while to a new place. Starting with
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: Jordan Eberle, who scores the first goal of the season.
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: You know, I think he's been great. McCann has been great.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: Chandler Stevenson. who takes a lot of hits.
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: For what reason, I still don't know. I know some
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: of his metrics.
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: Might not be appealing, but I think fans have to
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: understand the guy carries water.
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: The guy does a lot of dirty work.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: For this team because nobody else can. He checks top-end
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: players every game. He takes every D-zone draw imaginable. These
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: are things that are vitally important. Now he leads the
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: team in, in, in, in road assists.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: So like, he's been a big part of winning four
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: out of five games on the road so far. Uh,
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: Maddie Baniers, who's gone, I believe three games without a
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: point that's okay because his game is so solid at
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: both ends of the rink. And he's a young leader
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: right now and his points will come. So that's kind
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: of good news, bad news, because everybody else is contributing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: The points haven't fallen yet for number 10. But maybe
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: it happens tonight. It's going to happen at some point.
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: And then, you know, he's going to continue to get
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: better and better.
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: But I think, you know, for Beneers, I hope he
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: doesn't stretch his game out to get on the score sheet.
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: Because whatever he's doing right now is just fine. You know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: it's an effective line with McCann and Samaskevich. The Stevenson
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: line has been great.
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: Catton is getting more out of Shane Wright than we've
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: seen over the years.
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: So that's good.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: And then quietly on that line, you know, Kapokako makes
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: a contribution. So we're talking about 12 forwards in a
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: positive way from a point production standpoint.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: For this team, I mean, that's the most surprising thing, probably.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: John, you mentioned Berkley Catton.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I'll get back to him just on this point where,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you know, he said he gained weight roughly 5-10 pounds
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: here from this last summer. That certainly helps, and I mean,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I certainly agree. He looks faster, he looks more confident,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and those points are certainly going to come. The big
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: question here amongst the general public in this area is,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: what's it going to take for him to play more minutes,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: play higher in the lineup. And we respect that because
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: of just how reliable that Chandler Stevenson has been.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And I'll point this out, too, for face-offs as well.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: He's been great.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Power plays-wise, 15 of 17 draws, he's won. Puck possession's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a big thing, certainly. But when you factor in where
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: he's playing, Beneers is playing, what's it going to take
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to get him higher in the lineup, Cat and Bean?
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Is it more production this year, or do you think
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: more patience for next year?
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: No, I think it is more production. And I w
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: I would just say, it's a great question.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: I would just say to everybody, let it, let it be,
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: you know, like the old song, you know, let, let,
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: let the, let these things happen.
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: And you can't rush a 20 year old. You just
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: let them play in the slot. He's in right now.
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: I would wager as we get to February and March,
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: I think it's going to be different. I think he
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: will be relied on to be a point producer and
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: move up in the order, uh, There'll be a day
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: where he's the number one center.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: I believe that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: And then, you know, they do have some, some future
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: with that position with Kat and O'Brien and all, you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: as you go down the list here and Maddie Beneers,
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: who's still a young player at 23.
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: So, I mean, you know, that that's, that's a good thing.
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: Cause you always want to be strong down the middle,
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: but I would just watch the process because again, last
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: year at this time, he was just trying to find
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: his way and it was ugly. And then when he
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: did find his way, he had to go through a
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: learning curve. And then when we got post Olympics, when
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: everybody else was struggling, this kid started to show off
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: his offensive instincts and you could see it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: And then he's come back.
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: And I thought from the very first day of camp
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: and you know, we, we watched every workout. I mean,
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: he was noticeable every day and it's still that way,
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: but everybody else has kind of decided, okay, we, We've
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: got a job to do here, and they're doing it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: So that's my point.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: I think in a quiet way, Catton's emergence, and he's
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: got a great personality.
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: I think he's really loved by all his teammates.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: But that aspect, that there is some legitimate youthfulness to
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: their attack, that's pushing the other guys to do what
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: they're doing. So give it time. Give it time, because
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: it's going to happen for him. And that's an opinion
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: that's shared among other people who are watching the team,
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: you know, that as I get around the league, And
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: talk to people about the Kraken. I get a lot
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: of questions about Berkeley Cat, and it's all positive. So
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: I think hockey people see that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is coming up here for tonight. First of
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: two matchups. And John, you mentioned just how strict of
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a test this is going to be. And I think
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: it all begins with the guy that's still coaching them
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and John Cooper. They've got still a lot of rock
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: stars from those cup winning teams. Nikita Kucherov, you still
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: have Braden Point there. Jake Gensel there as well. Andre
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Vasilevsky could go and he's had maybe a down season
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to begin this, but he's been so ironclad tough on
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: this team. So to you, what's the biggest key here
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: for tonight?
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: Well, the key is to just maintain, you know, your
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: same level, you know, play. I'm talking about the Kraken,
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: you know, play your game. See how it measures, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: see how it measures.
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: Five on five. This is an exceptional team.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: You mentioned all the weapons that they have, the reigning
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: MVP in Kucherov. You know, he's got a lot of
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: different dynamics in play here. They've got a grinding nature
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: to their game, which I think gets overlooked because that's
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: what John Cooper wants. He wants them to check hard.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: He wants them to check for their chances. He wants
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: them to be a defensive-minded team. They go at it
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: with 11 forwards and 7 defensemen. They do that on
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: a regular basis. They're going to do that again tonight.
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: That always means.
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: That your upper end of the lineup, your Kucherov, your Point,
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: your Brandon Hagels, who's a burgeoning superstar in his own right,
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: Anthony Sorelli, and all these guys– Get extra ice time
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: as forwards because you have an extra defenseman dressed. The
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: only player that's kind of odd is like Victor Hedman
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: has gone through a lot of emotional stuff of late.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: He's trying to get through some of that. Took a
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: leave of absence last year. He's been one of the
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: all-time greats, one of the all-time great leaders.
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: In the game.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: But he's a spare part on the back end. You know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: he doesn't play a lot. His ice time has been diminished.
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: And that just tells you that they've taken steps as
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: a team. They added John Carlson. He's been a good
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: add for them. And they've managed to have a really
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: good record, aside from playing at Madison Square Garden. They've
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: lost twice already there. They can't win in New York.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: So their only two blemishes have been two sour games,
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: two duds they've thrown out at MSG for whatever reason.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: And you're right about Vasilevsky.
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: He can be a little bit better, but he's a
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: Hall of Famer, and he will be. So this is
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: something tonight.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Win or lose.
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: I'm going to look at style of play.
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: I'm going to look at the Kraken and how competitive
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: they are tonight. I'm not going to worry about whether
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: or not they're 6-2. If they're 6-2, we can have
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: a parade. If they lose the game, okay, how did
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: they lose the game? Were they completely outclassed? Was it
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: like the Vegas game? Or is it going to be
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: a little bit different? Because this is as similar as
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: we saw just a few days ago when Vegas came
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: to Seattle.
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: You know, that was a big test, and they failed.
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: And they know it, and they haven't lost since. So
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: we'll see how it measures out tonight.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Can't wait for it here. John, appreciate you. Thank you.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: You had the early morning flight, so I don't know
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: if we're going to let you go now and take
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: a nap or whatever you have going here for the afternoon.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: But let's do this again soon, though. Thank you.
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: I never sleep, Mike.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: No, you never. You never do, John. Thank you.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Have a great show tonight. Appreciate you, John. John Forslund
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: joining us here in the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Man, this
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: is going to be a fun one. Tampa Bay is
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: coming in, and as John mentioned, all the rock stars
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: they have. The reigning Hart Trophy winner, Andre Vasilevsky, you
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: name it, and it's going to be a big, big
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: measuring stick. It can be cliche, but that's what certainly
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: applies here. for the Kraken and Tampa Bay here for tonight.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, great start, 5-2. Once again, coverage at 3.30.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Our puck drops a little past 4 o'clock right here,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM. On the Seahawks side, John, of course, had
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the bright lights on him. We joked about this, but this.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Is for real.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: On the field with the Seahawks facing the Broncos this evening,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: there is one guy, there is one name, where the
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: door is blown so wide open, you have everything lining
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: up for you. The table is set. Utensils, plates, big
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: huge plate of protein, sides, appetizers.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: You've got to go in and eat.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Green bean casserole.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, you got me hungry now already.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: There is one name that has got to shine the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: brightest under the bright lights here tonight for the Seahawks
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and Broncos. We'll tell you who it is next year
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJR FM. 4-9-4-5-1, Tacoma Dodge Tech's line is
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: open for business. Big thanks to John Forslund joining us
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: here a few moments ago to tee up the Kraken
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and Tampa Bay here for tonight. And first off, if
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the Kraken goes 6-2, does that change your perception of
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: this team with a great game 4-9-4-5-1 Texas right now?
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: But this helps us loop right back here into the
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Seahawks conversation about perception. Because unfortunately in sports, perception is reality.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Like it or not, whether you talk about Peyton Manning,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the best golfer to not win a major, even to
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: this day and age, Sam Darnold, and the perception of turnovers.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: There is still perception that he is still a turnover-prone quarterback.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And does this hurt the Seahawks? Because against the Broncos tonight...
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: You've got a secondary that is so banged up. You
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: have Patrick Sertan who will not play. And how much
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: is JSN loving live Jess with no Sertan back there?
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: How many?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: How many plays, how many deep balls are we looking
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: at here?
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: How many deep balls?
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just see JSN getting a large crack
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: of yards after catch as well.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: So deep balls... They don't do that very often. They
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: really don't. So I'm going to go seven.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: He's still going to eat, though.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: You're still going to eat.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: With no Sertan back there, he's going to eat.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: You just don't need the deep ball in these situations.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I just think JSN's ability to break free, especially after
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: the catch, will be more valuable in this game than
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: the deep ball.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: And on top of that, who's going to eat the
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: most here out of the backfield? Because that's a big
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: question mark. And I do want to be clear because, again,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the 12-man roundtable set this up so well. Earlier this morning.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: About this running back situation. And I think talking to others.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Here's where I'm at with the running back situation here.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell made a great point.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: This morning.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Where in the scheme of turnovers. This is why. Jadarian
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Price was benched. And not Sam Darnold. Because you judge
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: a quarterback differently. Versus a running back. With the ability
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to hang on to the football. Sam Darnold's job is
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to sling it.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Now, how quick should he be slinging it?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: That's the reason why they're going back, and they're trying
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: to revamp the playbook all.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Of a sudden.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Well, it was something that Sam actually addressed in his
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: press conference earlier this week, is the ball not coming
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: out as quickly. But as Greg brought up, I do
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: think it has a lot to do with the fact
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: that they can't make the run a threat.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Now, honestly, if I'm looking at my quarterback at about
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: week six and thinking, why is he talking about going
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: back to training camp?
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I'm a little bit worried.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: But to Hugh Millen's point this morning, there's about roughly
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: 15 guys on this planet who can do this at
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: an elite level in how they do it. So you
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: have to work around the flaws of your quarterback and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: those natural flaws as well. Sam Darnold may throw more picks.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: The question for me is, can he avoid it on
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the very first play of the game?
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Well, we'd really like to see that avoided again. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: you know that that is immediately what they went back
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: and worked on.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of sliding into this here with the
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: bright lights for tonight. Who needs to shine the brightest
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: under the biggest lights on this stage? You could argue
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it's got to be JSN because he leads the entire
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: planet in everything receiving-wise. It could be the running backs
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: because you've got no Price, who's out. You've got no
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnet, who's out. But should George Helani be taking
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: RB1 reps? That may not be a given. Emmanuel Wilson
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: as well, too. And then you have a new name
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: now into the mix, Robert Henry.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, don't Darnold and JSN go hand in hand
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: with who's eating. It's like someone's passing the pork over here.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: So it's low-hanging fruit, but it's the obvious one. It's
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: got to be Sam Darnold.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm not asking Sam Darnold to go out and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: be perfect.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I am asking Sam.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Darnold to go out and look like a normal quarterback
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: with throwing the football. So does your perception of Sam
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Darnold change with a good game tonight? Your thoughts, 49451, folks.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: In the three wins, the Seahawks have turned the ball
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: over twice. They have turned this over seven times in
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: their two losses. Four of those turnovers in the losses
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: have been INTs thrown by Darnold. So this playbook's getting
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: a trim. He'll have JSN to throw to, no Sertan
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to defend him, and you have virtually a skeleton crew
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: of a running back situation. So Sam Darnold, we are
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: asking you to just play like a normal quarterback.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: INTs are okay. Minimize the INT.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. There you go.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Just, I mean, you know, won a game. And also,
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: whoever is at RB1, they will get carries, right? George Helani,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: most likely, right? Whatever Robert Henry Jr.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Gets, sure.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: But you guys have to minimize.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Just hang on to the football. Yes, that's it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So does your perception change of Sam Darnall with a
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: good game tonight? Texas right now, 4-9-4-5-1 with the Seahawks
• 35:28
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• 35:29
  Speaker 3: All right. Greg Bell is not going away. He's on
• 35:32
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• 35:33
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• 35:38
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• 35:43
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• 35:47
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• 35:50
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• 35:53
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  Speaker 6: And now for more on the Broncos and the Seahawks
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• 38:17
  Speaker 6: in Denver. I'm on my way to Denver. Farhan, good morning,
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: good afternoon. What is wrong with the Broncos' offense and
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: Bo Nix being a 59% passer with the shortest routes
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: and shortest attempts in the leagues?
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I think it's a lot of the same.
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: In fact, there's been a level of regression and now
• 38:34
  Speaker 10: we've seen Sean McVay take over the play calling. But
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: going into it, I was down there at their training
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: camp and the conversation was, how do we make this
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: guy more efficient? Deep ball passer, right? His last season
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: is complete. completion percentage was good. He took very few sacks,
• 38:47
  Speaker 10: you know, in terms of running. He was like right
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: behind Josh Allen, right? Like there was just a lot
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: to his game. They just needed to add this piece.
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: They got Jalen Waddle in the offseason. That was supposed
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: to get them to the next level. And it hasn't
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: come close. And, you know, when you look at it,
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: it's like all the evaluation around it has been this
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: guy is escaping the pocket when there's no reason to.
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: He's been pressured on 14.7% of his dropbacks offensively. During
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: these games and, you know, especially in the first quarter
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: of these games, early on, when you're trying to get
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: this guy into a rhythm and you want to pull
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: out of his hands quickly, he's refusing to do that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: And it's not.
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: Because of pressure.
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: So, you know, the explosive play rate you talked about,
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: he's hit on explosive passes on just 5.7 of his
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: throws in the pocket, again in the first quarter. That's
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: tied to the lowest rate in the league, so things
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: just don't start well, and then you wind up pressing.
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: We know he's good in the fourth quarter, but in
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: the first three, especially in the first... that ability to
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: function down the field and get through his progressions and
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: not bailing early, those are things he's still.
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: Going to need to learn.
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: And he can do them in the fourth. So you
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: know he's got the ability, but you'd love to see
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: it happen before games got to that point for the Broncos.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: You're a Huskies fan, Farhan. Yesterday we had Parker Gabriel,
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: the Broncos beat writer for the Denver Post on our show,
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: and he talked about Jonah Coleman. And he was saying
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: how they really have big plans for the former Washington
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: Huskies running back, and now he's on injured reserve with
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: a high ankle sprain. Tonight's game will be the fourth
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: and final one on injury reserve, and Parker thinks that
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: Jonah Coleman, when he gets back next game in 10
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: days for Denver, that he will be full go at
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Arizona and will probably be the one. They have J.K.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Dobbins as the one back right now, but he only
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: has 200-plus yards through five games. Nobody else on Denver's
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: roster has more than 15 carries through five games than J.K. Dobbins.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: How much does Coleman... Coming back, perhaps change this Denver offense.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: How much do you think Coleman and no consistent running
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: game has hurt Bo Nix?
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, look, let's just look at the Seattle Seahawks,
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: and you can see the exact same situation, right, in
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: terms of their inability to consistently run the football. I mean,
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks have the fumble issues that the Broncos don't,
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: but in terms of a lack of efficiency, it's right there.
• 40:56
  Speaker 10: You know, I talked about the first three quarters of games,
• 40:58
  Speaker 10: their running backs have averaged 2.7 yards per carry, right? Like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: that's just not going to get it done. And when
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: I look at the Seahawks and people think, okay, well,
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: if Jadarian Presley gets the fumbles out of his system,
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: he's going to be able to give the Seahawks something. Yeah,
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: he's a more explosive player, but when he returns... He's
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: not going to be a mid-season player. He's still going
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: to be a rookie that's played two-ish games. Remember the
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: last game he got benched for a half, essentially, as
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: far as carries are concerned. It's going to take him
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: a while to get.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: Up to speed.
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: I think the same thing is going to happen for
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: Jonah Coleman. And Jonah Coleman's had a history of.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: Injuries, right?
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 41:28
  Speaker 10: Throughout his time and you done. And even before that. So,
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: you know, if he, can he function as a, as
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: a heavy load number one, or does he need to
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: be a part of a two running back system to
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: get the most out of what he can do when
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: he is getting touches? But yeah, I mean, when you
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: look at their past run rate, right? Like, um, 42%
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: was all they threw the football, right? And on early downs,
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: it was even more pronounced, even with Sean Payton taking over, right?
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: So this is a team that's going to want to
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: run the football until Bo Nix shows them that they
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: can put the offense on his shoulders, right? Like they
• 42:01
  Speaker 10: just want to do what Seattle wants to do on
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: some level right now. They just don't want the offense
• 42:04
  Speaker 10: to hurt it.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: In Seattle's case, the offense is hurting it with the
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: seven turnovers they've had in the last two years. At
• 42:10
  Speaker 10: least Denver's offense hasn't really hurt it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: And so they're going to continue to run the ball
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: just for that until Knicks can take the next step. And,
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: you know, for for Coleman's sake, I hope he's splitting carries.
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: Not a not a guy that's getting 80 percent of
• 42:24
  Speaker 10: the running back touches.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: That's what J.K. Dobbins is there for. And it looks
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: like that's what it'll be when Coleman comes back in
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: 10 days time when they play. This is a familiar
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: voice to foreign logic, familiar for those of you who
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: listen on KJR every day at this time. On Thursdays,
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: we're taking a trip around the NFL, specifically in Denver.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: He's in Denver. I'm on my way there before the
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: Seahawks 3-2 play the Broncos 3-2 tonight in Mile High.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: It's supposed to be decent weather, but it has turned fall,
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: 40 degrees, but the precipitation and the rain is supposed
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: to stop. You were in the press box with me
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: in Seattle last weekend, Farhan. What are you seeing in
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: Sam Darnold? Five interceptions in three games. Another really bad
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: interception to start a game. His first third down throws
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: into coverage when Renardo Green, the corner, was standing between
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: him and Smith and Jigba on an out route to
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: the sideline. What do you see in Sam Darnold? What
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: do you think he needs to do, the offense needs
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: to do, to fix that issue?
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, when I think of it, you know,
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: turnovers were a problem last year as well, right? And
• 43:24
  Speaker 10: they were this time of year. They were even later
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: when he did the four interception game against the Rams.
• 43:28
  Speaker 10: I think that was week eight. What's different is, is
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: that I think he still had some deep ball efficiency
• 43:33
  Speaker 10: last year. Now he's not trying to push the ball
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: down the field nearly as much. I think they're trying
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: to make him a bit of a game manager and
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: that's kind of not in his DNA, but a year
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: ago he had the run game to lean on.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: And this year he doesn't have the run game to
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: lean on and just the lack of balance in this offense. And,
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: you know, I haven't seen the numbers through five weeks
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: a year ago in terms of how heavy this was
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: tilted towards Jackson, Smith and Jigba. I have to believe
• 43:56
  Speaker 10: it was somewhat close and, But like, there's nothing else
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: going on offensively for this team. When you look at
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: what they're paying Rashid Shaheed and the amount of touches
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: he's had, it's ridiculous, right? Like, and you know, we
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: talked about it during training camp, you and I did
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: about how they spent a lot of time, even in
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: off season OTAs and mini camp, trying to get Darnold
• 44:12
  Speaker 10: and Rashid Shaheed on the same page. And it looked
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: great during those times. And right now it's just not there, right?
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: Like in, in terms of, How they're trying to creatively
• 44:21
  Speaker 10: get him the ball. You see what happens. Two games ago,
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: they got him in the backfield on some tosses, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: that part of it's not there. I thought we'd see
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: more from Barner. I thought we'd see more from Kup.
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: It just seems like they're relying so heavily on JSN
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: without a run game.
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: It's become difficult.
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: I don't know that Darnold is significantly worse when it
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: comes to turnovers right now than he was at this
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: time last year. I hated the past is missing Jigba
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: for that first interception because he absolutely stared it down
• 44:50
  Speaker 10: on third down and just made it completely easy for
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: green to just step in front of it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: I mean, you know, you, you, you make sure high
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: school kids don't stare down receivers like that. And Sam
• 44:58
  Speaker 10: Darnold did that in that moment. So, you know, you
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: hope he can find some ways to kind of simplify
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: what he's doing, but you also don't want him to
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: be overly conservative because I just don't think that he's
• 45:08
  Speaker 10: at his best in when he attempts to game manage.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Okay. The corollary is what concerns you the most about
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: the three and two Seahawks? Is it what you just said?
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: Is it something else?
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: Oh, it's just that, right? And what concerns me is
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: they're going to have to deal with this for a month.
• 45:24
  Speaker 10: Because if you all of a sudden think that a
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: week from now, Zach Charbonnet is going to come back
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: and be the answer, Zach Charbonnet is going to be
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: coming off an ACL injury. Let me know the last
• 45:33
  Speaker 10: running back you've seen that on week one, coming back,
• 45:35
  Speaker 10: or any position player that's got to be able to run,
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: that they're really, really themselves week one. It's going to
• 45:42
  Speaker 10: take a few weeks. And then they're going to get
• 45:43
  Speaker 10: Jadarian Price in the lineup in two more weeks. And
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: that's going to take some time because he's still going
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: to be a rookie, right? So can they find a
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: way to make a knot in the rope here in
• 45:51
  Speaker 10: terms of their offense just not beating itself? The San
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: Francisco 49ers longest drive in that last game was 43 yards.
• 45:59
  Speaker 10: Like as much as Brock Purdy is being allotted this week,
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: Brock Purdy was incredibly average in that game. His passer
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: rating was below a hundred, you know, like he was
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: able to get something with that Josh Jobin and Mike
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: Evans matchup. But other than that, it like, he wasn't great, right?
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: Like defensively, this team is every bit as good, if
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: not better than they were a year ago. But the
• 46:20
  Speaker 10: offense is making it untenable for the defense. So they've
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: just got to find a way to stop turning the
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: ball over. And if they can do that, I think
• 46:27
  Speaker 10: their defense will put them in good enough positions that
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: they're going to find a way to win some football games.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: Totally agree. If they don't turn the ball over, they'll
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: win every game in the schedule. Maybe not the Rams. But, yeah,
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: I'm with you. They'll beat Denver tonight. How about this week, right?
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: The Broncos' run defense is not very– their.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: Defense is great.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: 145 a game.
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: Their run defense is incredible.
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: Incredibly average. So here's an opportunity for Seattle to take it. Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 10: And so Seattle had a couple of hundred yard rushing games, right?
• 46:54
  Speaker 10: Like they can manufacture it right. And, and by committee
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: and just get to a point where they can function,
• 47:01
  Speaker 10: just don't turn the ball over.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: So like if ever there's a get right game for
• 47:06
  Speaker 10: the running game of Seattle, it's this, but let's see
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: if they can do it. I'll put the ball on
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: the ground.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: And that would be Emmanuel Wilson. That looks like more
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: George Holley. We may see Robert Henry Jr. the first time.
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: A guy that had fumble problems in college, right? Like
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: Robert Henry, who can give them a burst and a
• 47:21
  Speaker 10: speed look that the other two backs don't possess, has
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: never touched a football in a National Football League game.
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: So now you're going to ask him to be a
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: pure rookie, take it, and then not fumble, which he
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: did a lot in college, right? But he could be
• 47:33
  Speaker 10: the answer if he can just protect the ball.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Exactly. Staying in the NFC West, Farhan Lalji, TSN Canada,
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline from Denver. And
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: I'll be on my way there, and tonight we'll be
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: watching the Seahawks and the Broncos. But in the NFC West,
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Sean McVay the other night, when the Rams and Buffalo
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: were just in a shootout with nobody really playing much
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: consistent defense, over time, he's moving inside the plus 40-yard line,
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: and then he just turtle-shelled it. I mean, he went
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: into complete Woody Hayes mode, and they go nowhere on offense, but...
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: basically took a knee almost offensively to set up a
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: 48-yard field goal that Nevis' kicker misses. Nevis isn't even
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: on the team now. He got the kick block from 48th.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: Of course, the Bills, Josh Allen, one scramble there in
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: field goal range, and their kicker makes it, and they win,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: and the Rams lose 37-34. What did you make of
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: McVay going anti-McVay and ultra-conservative there for a 48-yard field goal?
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was weird. They were half-pregnant, right? Like, if
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: they wanted to do that, kick the ball on first down.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 48:33
  Speaker 10: Like, why go through that? Were you basically just risking
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: a fumble to move the ball, you know, 10 feet
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: to the right? Like, it made no sense to me.
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: And obviously, it made no sense to McVay after the fact.
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: He's been pretty good at owning these things. You just
• 48:46
  Speaker 10: hope you don't have to own too many of them
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: as you go here. But, yeah, it was very out
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: of character. I would have thought they would have play-actioned
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: and would have found a way to push the ball
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: down the field a little bit. I don't know that
• 48:56
  Speaker 10: they needed to go for a touchdown, but if you're
• 48:57
  Speaker 10: going to run plays in that setting, run some plays, right? Otherwise,
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: they should have just kicked the ball two plays earlier.
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: That's two losses now that McVay has pinned on himself.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: The trip to Australia that was an absolute boomerang, 21-hour
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: flight boomerang while the 49ers spent almost a week there,
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: and now the end of the game against the Bills.
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: They're two and a half. 2-3, the Rams are, three
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: games back right now, really three and a half back
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: because they've lost the one head-to-head so far with the 49ers.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: I can't see them losing for a while now. Their
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: schedule gets softer. They got the Cardinals this weekend. Any
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: concern with the Rams, or do you think this is
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: going to even itself out?
• 49:37
  Speaker 10: No, it'll even itself out much like the Seahawks, right?
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: For them, it's like their offense is so good. Their
• 49:42
  Speaker 10: defense is still got some challenges. I can't believe that
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: they did not try to spy Josh Allen at all
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: in the late stages of that game. And he puts
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: you in a real pickle, right? Like I've been critical
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: of the Rams defensively for the amount of zone they've played. Um,
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: because you've got two elite corners and you're paying them
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: 45 million and you should be playing man in certain
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: situations a lot more than they've done. And then in that,
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: and you know, you also want to play some, but
• 50:07
  Speaker 10: one of the reasons you want to play zone is
• 50:09
  Speaker 10: if you've got a scrambling quarterback, right. And you can
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: keep your eyes on him and not have your eyes
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: over the top, watching how they tried to play. They'd
• 50:15
  Speaker 10: have your middle linebacker there. As soon as a tight
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: end crossed his face, that linebacker locked out of the
• 50:20
  Speaker 10: tight end and created massive run lanes from Josh Allen
• 50:22
  Speaker 10: to run right at the middle. regardless of where they
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: were on the field in the fourth quarter and in overtime. So,
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: you know, I certainly questioned how they were doing it
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: in that situation. You know, the one thing with McVay,
• 50:32
  Speaker 10: as you talk about what he says post-game, he's got
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: a tremendous amount of emotional intelligence, right? That was one
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: of the things, even his first year, when they got
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: to the Super Bowl and then eventually a couple years
• 50:41
  Speaker 10: later when they won it, that's what a lot of
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: the veterans, you know, Andrew Whitworth and others talked about, that.
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: For a young guy, he had that.
• 50:47
  Speaker 10: So in these moments, he's willing to hang it on himself.
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: But you always win that risk, right?
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: You can't hang it on yourself too often. Otherwise the
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: owner is going to eventually start believing you.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: So, uh, you know, I got a ton of time
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: for McVeigh as a coach. I think he's a brilliant guy.
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: You know, one of the things he said this week and,
• 51:04
  Speaker 10: and Sean Payton, um, was tied in an article with
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: it that, The longer you do this, the more conservative
• 51:10
  Speaker 10: you get, the more data you have, the more can
• 51:12
  Speaker 10: dumb you down as a coach, right? It's not always
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: a good thing. And I just think that from the
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: perspective of a play caller like Sean McVay, you want
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: to do what made you successful. And that was be
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: creative and be willing to take chances. and you know
• 51:27
  Speaker 10: go against the norms go against the grain so i
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: think that uh you know he's aware of it and
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: he's got to get back to being that guy if
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: he wants to have that kind of success because his
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: offensive pieces are so dynamic you look at the one-offs
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: in that game it was a 40 completed passes no
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: turnovers like the rams did so much right but some
• 51:45
  Speaker 10: conservative decision making late prevented them from from being the
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: best of themselves.
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: What impressed you about the 49ers it wasn't their offense
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: they didn't get going to the very end and They
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: got their 11 points by throwing at Josh Joe. But
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: what impressed you about what San Francisco did in Seattle?
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah, look, I just think there's a poise that Brock
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: Purdy possesses that even when things aren't there, he's not
• 52:06
  Speaker 10: going to make mistakes, right? And, you know, I know
• 52:10
  Speaker 10: they turn the ball over in other ways. He did
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: throw one interception in that game. But generally, he plays
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: with the poise of a veteran quarterback. And he's so
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: comfortable in the pocket. He's so comfortable extending and escaping.
• 52:21
  Speaker 10: So I think he's always going to give them a chance.
• 52:23
  Speaker 10: And I do believe injuries are going to come. It's
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: just the way things happen in San Francisco. But I
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: think he's more equipped than he's ever been at any time. So,
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: you know, this game came down to Seattle's turnovers, but
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: you know, I also think it was, it was Brock
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: Purdy and just his ability to, to be on top
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: of every situation.
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: I'm staying in the NFC West. The last one for
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: you is Marvin, the Marvin Harrison trade, the second round pick,
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: and then they swap late round picks, Arizona to sending
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: Marvin Harrison to Houston, the, It seems like the Texans
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: are going for it, even though they're one and four
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: and three games back of the Jaguars in their division.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: But getting him out of the division for Seattle is
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: good news for Marvin Harrison. But what do you think
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: about a second-round pick for him in that whole trade?
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's probably the best you can do right now.
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: I mean, you know, you look at guys like that
• 53:17
  Speaker 10: and you think of JJ McCarthy and what he wound
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: up going for in his trade to New York.
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: And it does happen.
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: Like you get devalued really quick. It's like a car.
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: You take it off the line and it depreciates instantly.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:27
  Speaker 10: And I don't know why it didn't work there. I mean,
• 53:30
  Speaker 10: obviously we've got quarterback issues and then there's a change
• 53:33
  Speaker 10: in leadership. And obviously he didn't fit personally as much
• 53:37
  Speaker 10: as anything else didn't fit system wise, but I'll tell
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: you like, When we talk about Jeremiah Smith with Ohio
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: State right now and just how good he is, that's
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: how we talked about Marvin Harrison a couple of years ago. So, like,
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: I'm kind of holding my breath when Smith comes out
• 53:50
  Speaker 10: because I think he's just so unbelievable. You could not, like,
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: tell me anybody who thought that Marvin Harrison Jr. would
• 53:57
  Speaker 10: have busted. right? And now he's in that position now, right?
• 54:01
  Speaker 10: You're going to, you're going to get there. You're reunited
• 54:03
  Speaker 10: with your quarterback. He's had plenty of ups and downs, right? Like,
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: you know, you can look at some of the failings
• 54:08
  Speaker 10: there and you can pin them to CJ Stroud, like
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: it or not. Now you get a guy that can
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: go play across from Nico Collins. You've got even a
• 54:13
  Speaker 10: more dynamic receiving core. I think the possibilities are exciting,
• 54:16
  Speaker 10: but I think Stroud, and look, that defense has taken
• 54:19
  Speaker 10: a bit of a step back this year, but the
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: fact that they didn't advance last year in the playoffs is,
• 54:24
  Speaker 10: You can directly tie that to quarterback play. So they're
• 54:26
  Speaker 10: doing everything possible to prop up C.J.
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: Stratton.
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: Hopefully the chemistry the two of them had in college
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: and just the overall relationship they had can bring out
• 54:34
  Speaker 10: the best in Harrison because I can't believe he doesn't
• 54:36
  Speaker 10: have the physical tools to excel in the NFL.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Appreciate you, Farhan. I'm going to see you in a
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: couple hours there in Denver, and we'll talk to you
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: next Thursday as well. Thanks, man.
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: All right, buddy.
• 54:47
  Speaker 10: See you then.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: Farhan Lalji, TSN Canada NFL reporter. National guy. He does
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: CFL play-by-play as well. I'll see him in the press
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: box tonight in Denver when the Seahawks and Broncos play
• 54:59
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• 55:04
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• 55:10
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• 55:12
  Speaker 6: just said about the NFC West. Up next, your chance
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  Speaker 11: We are so damn lucky in Seattle. They have the
• 55:44
  Speaker 11: same exact record as last year through five games. Three
• 55:46
  Speaker 11: and two. Lost to the Niners at home. Same turnover differentials,
• 55:50
  Speaker 11: same points per game, giving up the same amount of
• 55:53
  Speaker 11: points on defense. And I have supreme confidence they're going
• 55:57
  Speaker 11: to go minimum 13-4. This team is stacked.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: They stay healthy.
• 56:02
  Speaker 11: They'll be just fine. Book Seattle tonight, 27, Broncos 10.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: 49451 Tacoma Dodge text line. What you got for tonight,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Seahawks and Broncos tonight? Just get through these next three games, Jess.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm asking.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Get through these next three.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Listen, I think going back like two months ago in August,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: we're looking at this Broncos game a lot differently now
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: than versus here.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: This is a winnable game.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Next week is what bothers me facing Kansas City.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, at least it's a home game.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: And I think at this point, you're brushing aside trying
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: to catch the 49ers for the NFC West. Just get
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: your record into a solid spot after these next three games.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think that's completely out of reach.
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Niners are going to regress to the
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: mean at some point. I think they're extremely good. And
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: Brock Purdy is performing way better than anyone thought he was.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: He's not just a game manager. He is not.
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: He's legit.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: He is legit.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: It's what you have to deal with. You have to
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: deal with that right now down in Santa Clara.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, you do. You absolutely do.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: You have to deal with this in Denver today at
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: Mile High. But yeah, the Chiefs and the Bears, both
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: home games, both primetime games as well. Those are big ones.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, we've got three under the lights games in
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: a row. Big national spotlight on you. I just don't
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: think that they care that much about that. These three games,
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: I think that, well, it's the middles, right? My friend
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: Alex Brink, who is a phenomenal football analyst, both on
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: the NFL and college football side. But he always says,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: in a game situation, it's the middle eights. What do
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: you do with the last eight minutes? Of the first half.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: And what do you do with the first eight minutes
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: of the second half? And that will determine a game. Well,
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: we're kind of in that territory of the season if
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: you want to go 30,000 feet on it. And I
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: do believe that these three next games, like you said...
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: are exactly what they need to take care of business doing.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: 49451, what'd you think? Two losses along the way, that's
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: it for the rest of the entire season? It's a
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: bold prediction, but hey, we're all about bold predictions here.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Mike Benton in for Greg Bell with Jessamine. Back here
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: to the Tacoma Dodge text line, 49451. 253 says the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Seahawks running game through five games is like 30 yards
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: different than last year.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: However.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I get that. It's not about the yards. It's about what?
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: The turnovers.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: And even back then last year, K-9, over 1,000 yards
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: in 17 games, 5 TDs. Zach Charbonnet, 730 yards, 12 TDs.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Farhan Lajji brought up a great point in his conversation
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: with Greg a few minutes ago. It's going to take
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: a while for Charbonnet to ramp back up after basically
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: wrecking his knee and having to get this thing rebuilt.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: An ACL thing is a very, very serious thing.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: I've done it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: It takes a while.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: And then Jadarian Price getting back in. He's a rookie.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: These will take time. So, yeah, I get that they're
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: playing from behind right now, but let's put it this way.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: It's about the turnovers. I don't think the score is
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: going to duplicate the same numbers that K-9 and Charbonnet
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: had last year. That's a concern for me.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yes. I mean, without that production, for sure.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: But the clean-up-able issues that they're facing. I mean, we
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: had Coach Mack on on Monday. And he said that
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: if you told me the stats, the turnover stats, I
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: thought in the first half alone, I thought this game
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: was over. And the fact that they were within reach
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: against the Niners tells me that this team is extremely talented.
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: They have the ability to be in these games. They
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: control their side.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: Of the ball.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: They're okay. They'll be just fine. They just have to
• 1:00:00
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• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: As long as Sam Darnold doesn't play like the Bo
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Nicks is afraid of his own shadow type of.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Game, they're going to be fine.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: I just don't think he will. It was a rough
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: start for him. People are going to have bad games.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: But I look at Mike McDonald as a defensive player.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: coach he wants to control the game as a whole
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: and if they do that protecting the ball is number
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: one in all facets of controlling a.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Game 2-5-3 is saying the Seahawks tonight shock everyone. Henry Jr.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: over 100 yards. Sam Darnold, no turnovers.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Special teams get a TD 28-13 Seahawks. Very, very quick here.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Just one quick crack and reaction. Just saying Mackie Samaskevich
• 1:00:43
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• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel. It's very simple. All you
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  Speaker 2: have to do is just listen. We have a pick
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  Speaker 2: for a game right now. If you love it, text
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  Speaker 2: FACT to 49451. If you hate it, text FICTION to 49451.
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  Speaker 2: The floor is yours, Jess McIntyre.
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  Speaker 3: What you got? Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I will tell you the pick and then I'll
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  Speaker 5: tell you why. So that people can get it in
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  Speaker 5: in the window. I am picking the Bills minus five
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  Speaker 5: and a half as they head to Vegas to face
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  Speaker 5: the Raiders. I think that the Bills are going to
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  Speaker 5: continue to be as dominant as we've seen them.
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  Speaker 3: I know they... Okay. They did not necessarily.
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  Speaker 4: Dominate every game that they've won.
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  Speaker 5: They had a couple close calls, but the Raiders, I
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  Speaker 5: do not believe in whatsoever. They're 3-2. That is fool's
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  Speaker 5: gold to me to have a winning record right now.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're winning by a touchdown or more. So,
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  Speaker 5: Bills minus 5.5 at Vegas Raiders. And the best part
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  Speaker 5: is you can disagree with me because we had a
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  Speaker 5: thousand dollar winner one week who.
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  Speaker 4: Won on a fiction pick against me.
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  Speaker 3: And so you can you can love it.
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  Speaker 5: You can hate it. But text fact, if you agree,
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  Speaker 5: bills minus five and a half. If you disagree, that's just.
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  Speaker 2: Text fiction, because if you have Josh Allen, you've got
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  Speaker 2: a chance again, just as the bills minus five and
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  Speaker 2: a half over the Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: Do you love it?
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  Speaker 2: Text FACT right now to 49451. If you hate the pick,
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  Speaker 2: text FICTION to 49451. You have 12 minutes beginning right
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  Speaker 2: now to do this.
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  Speaker 3: Text FACT.
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  Speaker 2: If you love the pick, Jess has got the Bills
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  Speaker 2: minus 5.5 over the Raiders to 49451. If you love it,
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  Speaker 2: text FACT right now. If you hate the pick, text
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  Speaker 2: FICTION to 49451. We have Ian coming in here in.
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  Speaker 3: Just a bit.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's Dick Fane today because we have the early
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  Speaker 5: cracking game.
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  Speaker 4: So Dick Fane will be on. from 12 to 3.30.
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  Speaker 3: It is a weird and wacky week going on.
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  Speaker 5: It is, but, you know, when the Kraken travels to
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  Speaker 5: the East Coast and we bring you them every single game,
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  Speaker 5: regardless of where they are, sometimes we got to boot
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  Speaker 5: someone off the air.
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  Speaker 2: I got some chair time here later on today, so
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  Speaker 2: I'll keep this warm for 3.30. But Ian's got not
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  Speaker 2: as extensive as, like, the John Forslund travel pack. But
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  Speaker 2: he's got the whole planes, trains, autos thing going on
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  Speaker 2: because he's got to be at an undisclosed location for
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: studio work. And that takes time to get them all
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  Speaker 2: dressed up, makeup, everything. And he'll be on at 3.30.
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  Speaker 2: So Dick Fane's got the chair.
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  Speaker 4: I think he does his own hair.
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  Speaker 5: So that's nice because I could always tell when he
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  Speaker 5: was doing a TV hit because his hair would just
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  Speaker 5: be on point.
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  Speaker 3: Usually he's like a hat and a sweatshirt guy, kind
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  Speaker 3: of like me in this chair.
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  Speaker 6: It's comfy.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're on radio and you don't have
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  Speaker 5: to worry about video, I'm just, I look like a
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  Speaker 5: trash bag.
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  Speaker 7: No, no.
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  Speaker 4: It's great.
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  Speaker 3: Stop, stop, stop.
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  Speaker 2: I've worked 15 years, by the way, coming up the
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  Speaker 2: ranks before this job in minor league hockey and elsewhere.
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  Speaker 3: It was suit and tie every night, suit and tie
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  Speaker 3: every night.
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  Speaker 2: And I got playfully lambasted when I began here, when
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: I was when I at one point wore like a
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  Speaker 2: golf sweater and a polo shirt. Now, I was going
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: to have dinner after doing a show and filling in
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  Speaker 2: for the old 10 to 12 show or 10 to
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  Speaker 2: one show. But I got playfully lambasted.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you come in and wear that ever again!
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's because that show used to only wear sweats.
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  Speaker 5: I think they were exclusively sponsored by Champion or something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Fane's in jammies here. No.
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  Speaker 4: He is always on point.
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  Speaker 3: Dick Fane's up next.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, we had the conversation earlier about how
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  Speaker 2: you're not expecting your quarterback to be perfect.
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  Speaker 3: You're just asking your quarterback to be normal.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of one of those days where it's like all
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  Speaker 2: you can ask out of your host is not to
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  Speaker 2: be perfect, but just to be normal.
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  Speaker 3: So my apologies, Fane's on from 2 to 3.30. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's your producer as well.
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  Speaker 6: I fumbled.
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  Speaker 3: No, we had our wires crossed. Ian didn't get the
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  Speaker 3: day off.
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  Speaker 2: He's working somewhere hard from a remote location before it's
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  Speaker 2: showtime for the Kraken at 3.30.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of, Mayor of Maple Valley, are you there?
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  Speaker 6: Hello? I am here.
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  Speaker 7: I am here.
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  Speaker 3: You get to work today, don't you?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, well, yeah. It's Seahawk game day. It's Kraken game day.
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  Speaker 6: We're here.
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  Speaker 7: I'm on the phone. My apologies on the phone right now.
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  Speaker 7: We'll be ready to rock and roll here at the
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  Speaker 7: top of the hour. But yeah, yeah, man.
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  Speaker 6: How are we? How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on?
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  Speaker 6: We are good.
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  Speaker 7: We are good.
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  Speaker 3: Jam-packed day.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of made the joke earlier about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you're in studio, do you wear PJs? I remember
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  Speaker 2: back in the day when I first began interning in
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  Speaker 2: at big Fox sports. Like I'm talking back when they
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  Speaker 2: had like Fox sports news, you know, the, the Chris
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  Speaker 2: Rose show with John Kruk, Lisa Guerrero, they had that
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  Speaker 2: going on as well. But the one thing is that like,
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  Speaker 2: this is back in the day when you had just
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: anchors wearing shirt, tie, blazer and then literally whatever you want,
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  Speaker 2: like underneath, because nobody could see. So I saw dudes
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  Speaker 2: wearing shorts. I saw dudes wearing basketball pants. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: does it ever become tempting to you to, to try
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  Speaker 2: to even do that?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I'm wearing jeans today. Atta boy.
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  Speaker 6: Atta boy.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't, I don't, when, when we're on
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  Speaker 7: for a road game, when I got to walk, like, uh,
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  Speaker 7: like it's a 15 minute walk from where we parked
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  Speaker 7: to where our studios are. Yeah, man, I'm 100% in
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  Speaker 7: tennis shoes and jeans. Up top, we're looking good. Got
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  Speaker 7: a good suit on. Got our style of stars. You
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  Speaker 7: got us dialed in.
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  Speaker 3: Desk up, man.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, but I'm going, I'm going. Yeah, it's no
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  Speaker 7: full frontal, baby. We're just standing there with, you know,
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  Speaker 7: with the jeans on, but we'll look good up top today.
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  Speaker 3: Sweatpants, one of these days, man. An idea for you
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  Speaker 3: is sweatpants.
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  Speaker 6: I'll go on a.
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  Speaker 7: Lot of sweatpants. I'm not going to do that. I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 7: got to have respect for the But, yeah, it's a hike.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: There's no reason to wear suit pants because, frankly, you
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: can't see them, so why bother? Now, home games were
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 7: decked out. Total suit. Here we go. That's how we
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 7: do it for home games. In fact, I hated it
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 7: when I was at Fox. We were on the anchor
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 7: desk always, and then all of a sudden they switched
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: to this goofy-ass Sumon thing they call that big video board.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, man, now we've got to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: go home. Now I've got to go full frontal, but
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 7: those are first-world problems. Bigger-world problems are, can the Seahawks
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  Speaker 7: run the ball against the 29th-ranked Russians?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to try this whole experiment with Robert
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  Speaker 2: Henry tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, man, this is just patchwork.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I just said, as far as the QB situation, you're
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  Speaker 2: not asking Sam Darnold to be perfect. You're asking him
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: to be normal. It's one of those games where, Ian,
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  Speaker 2: you just kind of begin with, Can you avoid throwing
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  Speaker 2: a pick on.
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  Speaker 3: The very first play?
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  Speaker 7: How about just the offense not giving short fields or
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 7: poor touchdowns to the other team? Because the two losses
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: they've had, 21 and 20 points off turnovers, right? So
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 7: if you don't do that, you're 5-0 right now. You're 5-0. Instead,
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  Speaker 7: they have, and so... You know, it's a darn old problem.
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  Speaker 7: It's a lot of problems when you can't run the football.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: That's a problem. But just like I said, Denver can't
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  Speaker 7: stop the run. So, I mean, if you can't run.
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  Speaker 10: Against these guys, you're not going to run against anybody
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  Speaker 10: this year.
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  Speaker 3: You think Henry's going over 100 then?
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  Speaker 6: Is he in?
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  Speaker 7: Do we know he's in?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe. That's the indication that he could get some reps tonight.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you've got to activate them first. I
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 7: haven't checked. I don't know. My apologies. The Thursday thing
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: is goofy with what they do. You don't have to
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: do it. The injury reports are different. It would be
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: odd to me. Let's see. Valus Jones. I'm just looking.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 7: Valus Jones was signed to the 53-man. Earl Charles. Let's
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: see here. What are we doing? We're still a couple
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: hours away. They've got four running backs. Valus Jones Jr.,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 7: Robert Henry, then they got, obviously, Helani and Wilson. So
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: do they activate all four running backs? I don't know.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think Patrick Henry's the next man.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: Up, though. Well, but the fact that they– Bayless Jones
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: is a good special teams player for them, so I'm
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: guessing he's active. So my question is, are you going
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 7: to have all four of those guys active? And we
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: won't know that until later. So it makes no sense
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: for Henry not to play for two straight weeks– when
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: you signed him to your 53 man and he has
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 7: to stay there for three weeks to have them on
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: there for three weeks and not play in the first
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: two would make no sense. But I was surprised he
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: didn't play last week, to be honest with you, captain.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: You're surprised by the way that Bo Nix is playing
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: like he is right now, as scared as he can
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: look with not throwing the ball deep.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 7: No, cause I watched him play at Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: Captain check down rain Supreme.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 10: I mean, I watched him play there. I mean, I,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 10: you know, I think that's like, which of these two quarterbacks.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: That has not played well this year is better today.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: That's the other question, right? Which one of those guys
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: steps up. So, um, you know, I think in the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: case of Seattle, it's Darnold, just find the way to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: spread the ball around a little bit more, but just
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: don't turn it over.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 10: I just don't turn it.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: Just don't do that. Like, just don't turn it over
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: anymore and, and you'll be just fine. But, um, yeah,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: I don't know. I, I, uh, My whole thing with
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: these guys right now is they're better than 3-2. They're
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: probably not a 5-0 team, but it's a must-win. It's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: just an absolute flat-out must-win.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because life is scary here to think if they
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: were to drop this game and then you got to
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: face the Kansas City Chiefs this next week.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: You're always ready here for game time. We got the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: show going on for the Kraken. You got the TV
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: set after this, but you have a lot to get to, right?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, busy show. Cramming basically three hours of content into
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: two hours today. We'll have our weekly visit with Ross
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: Tucker coming up at 1220 from Westwood One and CBS Television.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: I think he's got the Carolina game this week. So
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: we'll check in with Ross and get his thoughts on
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: tonight's matchup, obviously, with the Seahawks and the Broncos. I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 7: always like talking to Ross. The 1 o'clock, Steve Palazzolo,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 7: 33rd team. Check the Mike podcast. We'll go through this. Again,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: Seahawks and Broncos, a lot of conversation with that. And 1.30,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: we were going to just miss the week with Brandon Funston,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: and we said we can't do that. We're not going
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: to take phone calls, but we'll check in with some
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: general topics. Jalen Hurts, what do you do with him
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: being out this week? And other things like that with
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: bye weeks. And take a few questions, 49451 on the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: Tacoma Dodge text line, starting at noon, no earlier than noon.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: So a short segment of Funston, and then we'll say
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: goodbye and hand it off to Dick Fane. And he'll
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: take it all the way up to your pregame show
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: at 3.30 today.
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  Speaker 3: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: Just to quote Spaceballs, ludicrous speed.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Mayor, knock him dead.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: Thanks, man.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: John Forslund, big thank you again. Farhan Lalji, big thank
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: you again. Folks, also for your texts, your talkbacks. Greg's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: in Denver, back soon for Jessamine.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: I'm Mike. Ian's next.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: See ya.