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Furness Show 6-2: Joe Sheehan, John Lund, Russell Wilson's legacy · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, I got a little topic we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: to in just a second. Let's just real quick. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get to the Mariners. I joked about they may not
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  Speaker 1: lose again. They're on a heater. Man, if they play
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  Speaker 1: like this, they won't. But well, I thought that the
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  Speaker 1: stat and know Larry Stone had some other people had
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  Speaker 1: it as well. The fact that they played all these
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  Speaker 1: extradings games, but the last three three or four four,
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  Speaker 1: and they haven't given up a run in the tenth
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  Speaker 1: inning with a ghost runner. I mean, that's remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just the Mariners that don't bunt when
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  Speaker 2: there's someone on second base in the ghost runner rule.
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  Speaker 2: Just so you know, I know Greg talked about it
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  Speaker 2: in his show too.
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  Speaker 1: But they they they now sit there with a you know,
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  Speaker 1: with an eight game winning streak of two and a
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  Speaker 1: half game lead over the Rangers, who have one four
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  Speaker 1: in a row and are kind of surging as well.
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  Speaker 1: They're separating themselves in the packets, the Mariners Rangers. It
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  Speaker 1: does feel that way, right, I mean, it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: and you can just kind of look at run differential
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  Speaker 1: if nothing else, both are in the green, not in
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  Speaker 1: the red. So we're kind of humming along it. I
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  Speaker 1: got people get mad softy, who you can't say that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: sit all along, Like, I just they're my stress level
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  Speaker 1: for this team. Winning the division is like a one
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  Speaker 1: yeah out of ten. And that's been the case since
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  Speaker 1: the end of last season. Like, they're the best team
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  Speaker 1: in this division. They're the best pitching staff in this division,
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  Speaker 1: if not the American League. Now we're going six deep, like,
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  Speaker 1: and they've been doing this keeping in mind without the
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  Speaker 1: runner up for the MVP last year and cal Rawly
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  Speaker 1: argue the best player like and at some point he's going
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  Speaker 1: to come back. And your big off season acquisition in
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  Speaker 1: Brenda Donovan, who has I mean, I think you just
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  Speaker 1: forget about him until he proves otherwise and you just
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  Speaker 1: say that's fine because Cole Emerson's here and Cole Young
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  Speaker 1: is here. That's a whole situation because it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a situation. Yeah, but it's a good problem. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think Donovan's pretty simple. Donovan does. Donovan's your super
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  Speaker 1: utility guy. That's where he thrived before. When you hear
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  Speaker 1: people say that Brendan Donovan was a gold glover, that
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  Speaker 1: was Dylan Moore gold glove exactly utility player gold glove.
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  Speaker 1: There's value in that, and there's value in that. Listen
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  Speaker 1: before Dylan Moore decided he couldn't hit anymore last year
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  Speaker 1: and turned into demo as supposed to be more valuable piece,
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  Speaker 1: play him everywhere and and kind of get away with it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's probably what Donovan's going to be. So so I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you don't need to have Randy rose
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  Speaker 1: Rain in the outfield. You just don't like it. But
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  Speaker 1: you need Randy in the batter's box. You need him
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  Speaker 1: on the base pass absolutely. Do you saw that last night?
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  Speaker 1: Saw that one hundred percent of the reason why one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why you win that game. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I think they win anyway. If he scores from
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  Speaker 1: second anyway, probably would have been closed. Yeah, he's got
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  Speaker 1: enough speed. That ball was so flared out there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the guy tried to sell it in left field, like Randy's.
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  Speaker 1: Randy is not a good out. Randy's reading that ball.
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  Speaker 1: He knows where it's gonna be true. He's scoring on
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  Speaker 1: that play, but it made it a lot easier for
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  Speaker 1: getting to third. It also changes how the pitcher pitches
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  Speaker 1: in that situation. Well, and you going that you don't
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  Speaker 1: just need a hit, you can get a sackfly anything,
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  Speaker 1: and you got the infield in all those things happen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So so all that takes place yesterday, and and they
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  Speaker 1: just they continue to roll, man, and it's it's it
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be a surprise. It's also something that I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think all you we've talked about it before. They've
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  Speaker 1: now also kind of closed the gap with Cleveland for
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  Speaker 1: that number two seed, and I know it's so early.
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  Speaker 1: No we wants with the standings. I look at the standings.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about you guy. You guys, you do
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  Speaker 1: what you want to do. If you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to look at the standings, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I look at the standings. I think that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a fun thing to do. You know when it's fun
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  Speaker 1: when your team's in first place. And that's what that's
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  Speaker 1: where they are right now. Are we okay? Okay, doky no,
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  Speaker 1: no no, I'm going to keep talking and tell people
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  Speaker 1: what's happening. But we lost power yet again just a
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  Speaker 1: moment ago. So I'm not sure if we're on, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll just keep going. And uh and see weird that
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  Speaker 1: we are. Power is the weirdest saying Anders is in
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  Speaker 1: the dark. There's just flat out in the dark right now. Baby,
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  Speaker 1: Oh goodness me, good times here. I don't even think
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  Speaker 1: we have you have no control in there?
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  Speaker 3: Do you?
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  Speaker 1: I do? But I can't hear you unless I have
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  Speaker 1: my mic off. Yeah, we're not sure. I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 1: me just do that. You know what I'm gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: you guys to do real quick. I'm gonna I'm just
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  Speaker 1: logging in.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild sometimes you talking to yourself?
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  Speaker 3: Are you?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna ask this question at four
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  Speaker 1: nine four five one. It's twelve twelve. God, I hate
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  Speaker 1: doing this. I'm asking you guys a simple question at
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  Speaker 1: four nine four five one. Are you still hearing us
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  Speaker 1: on the air? Yes? Four nine four five one. Just
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  Speaker 1: one of you please text me and say yes or no?
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  Speaker 1: You're you still hear us on the air because Anders
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  Speaker 1: is sitting in a dark studio?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, with no power? With no power is is the board?
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  Speaker 2: Even on the board is on? Okay, it wasn't for
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  Speaker 2: a second, but now it is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. They say, somebody just said they can see and.
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  Speaker 2: Hear us all right, all right, okay, huh cool, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna just bear with us for a second.
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  Speaker 2: We I'm gonna I'm gonna say, I'm gonna tell you
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  Speaker 2: guys what's going on. I'm gona take it behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Marty Sea League pays his bills or
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  Speaker 2: something because we keep losing power. He's a guy who
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  Speaker 2: owns this building.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and we've had nothing, I mean nothing but issues
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  Speaker 1: lately with power in this building. So I'm going here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see the KJR live stream. We did have one
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  Speaker 1: person text in uh uh terrestial radio. We're on. Can
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  Speaker 1: you hear us? Anybody listening on the iHeart app? Tell
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  Speaker 1: us if we're on. Supposedly we're good to go on
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  Speaker 1: the app? Two five, three, Yes, pay your power bills,
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  Speaker 1: listen we do. God, what a gong show this place is.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the station, the building, it's not,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. Can you fix your damn power? What is
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  Speaker 1: the what's the what's the business down below? I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know. I'll be honest with you, I'm terrified, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm dead serious, Like with what happened down in in
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  Speaker 1: Longview we got some weird chemical company down there, like
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  Speaker 1: two floors down, and that's the reason we lost the
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  Speaker 1: power the first time. kJ are live stream. We're good
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  Speaker 1: on the app. Oh okay, I thinkuess no, that's me yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Hm hmm, commercial break? Do we We're good on the app?
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  Speaker 1: Good on the app. Listen, I'm leaving. Somebody just says, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we could still hear you and Russell Wilson still sucks.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't even got to that topic yet.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't even got to that damn topic yet. Oh Lordie, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at us on YouTube right now. I think
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  Speaker 1: we're still there. We are. Are you able to play commercials?
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  Speaker 1: We'll see? Or am I just gonna have to talk
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  Speaker 1: for three hours straight? I think we'll be good on commercials,
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  Speaker 1: you think? Okay, God, this is incredible. Man, we are
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  Speaker 1: on the YouTube. That's insane. I blame the mayor of Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: not the mayor of MV. Thank you very much for
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  Speaker 1: two five. I'm telling you right now, we don't have
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  Speaker 1: these problems out in the ENV. I would not stand
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  Speaker 1: for this. Katie Wilson tripped over the power quart. Is
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  Speaker 1: that what happened? Is that what happened along. Okay. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, everyone, thank you guys very much for
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  Speaker 1: person in the text in do I send them mount
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  Speaker 1: e interruption. Oh we're close. We are close. We are
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  Speaker 1: damn close. I heart this is a good one from
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas on the YouTube I heart hates power said nobody. God,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're good.
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  Speaker 3: Ian.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't have any lights in here, so I
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  Speaker 1: know it's I'm gonna take a picture. Hang on staying hand. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this is funny. This is a this is a live
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  Speaker 1: picture of anders It. It actually looks better because of
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  Speaker 1: the reflection. Yeah, because I got my computer screen back on. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but the actual you know, lights in here are off.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Okay, that was weird. That was weird. It's like
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  Speaker 1: like it was, there's no power out in this in
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  Speaker 1: the Uh there isn't office. I can look out there
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  Speaker 1: and save things dark out there, although there's like computers,
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  Speaker 1: so the computers must all be on backup. Wild All right,
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  Speaker 1: all here, you know, Okay, we've got all right, here's
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Uh, we're done with marrors. We
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  Speaker 1: go with the mirrors, right, Yeah, okay, I think we
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  Speaker 1: get in around. Yeah, Joe going Joe's going to join
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  Speaker 1: us coming up at h at one today, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into that with him. I do want to get
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  Speaker 1: back into it with him with the with the salary
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  Speaker 1: cap a little bit because that he's talked about it
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  Speaker 1: as bunch of times. I want to go back down
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  Speaker 1: that road again because since we last talked to him
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  Speaker 1: is when the proposal came out. Yes, it really, and
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  Speaker 1: this is what is kind of I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say time for some day drinking. Damn right, I'm down.
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  Speaker 1: It's always time for listen first of all, four two five,
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  Speaker 1: always down for that. Yeah. So when we when we
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  Speaker 1: get to the conversation with Joe, he's been adamant about
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  Speaker 1: no salary cap, and I think Eno was as well, like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: that really what is I think you? Did you do
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  Speaker 1: your podcast with Chuck today?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: What's what are his thoughts? He's mister baseball, he is
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  Speaker 1: pro salary cap? What are you? What's your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: I'm even we kind of talked about this last time,
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  Speaker 2: But to me, I don't I'm not hell bent on
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  Speaker 2: a salary cap, but I'm I think the floor is
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  Speaker 2: more important to be completely honest and.
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  Speaker 1: To get the floor you have to have a cap exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So I am willing to sign up for the cap,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it wouldn't hurt baseball. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it'll help it as much as a lot of people do,
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  Speaker 2: because the top teams will still find ways to certain.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't most rank and file players benefit benefit? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I think so, especially if you give something if obviously
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  Speaker 2: it's when the way negotiations work. If you get something
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  Speaker 2: you want, you have to give something up to to
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  Speaker 2: kind of get that right. Right, So theoretically, if the
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  Speaker 2: owners get the salary cap, they're going to have to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, concede on another part that the that the
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  Speaker 2: players have always wanted. So that's why I'm thinking that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's.
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  Speaker 2: The service time stuff that probably is the first thing
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  Speaker 2: that comes to mind for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think we'll talk to you about that
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  Speaker 1: and then getting the marriners as well. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: one of the things and I'll quickly set it up.
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  Speaker 1: It's first of all, there's some classic tax two oh six.
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  Speaker 1: This is just an elaborate ploy for you guys not
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  Speaker 1: to work, just like when your dumb ass buddies took over.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. First of all, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Well played, well played, mister Furness. That worked out well
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  Speaker 2: for everybody. That worked out well for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, yes, except for that's why Jess just said, I
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  Speaker 1: got to be out of here for like she's gone
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  Speaker 1: for like three weeks. Yeah, three weeks. I'm out seeing whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Emmy winning radio, Yes, it is exactly. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: an Emmy's coming right now. Russell Wilson's story yesterday going
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  Speaker 1: to CBS. The career is over, Yeah, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it was. I think he knew that for a while,
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  Speaker 1: and not just he knew it for a while, but
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  Speaker 1: I think he's he wasn't going to go back as
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  Speaker 1: a backup. That wasn't He's not going to do a
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. You know, remember they came to league the
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  Speaker 1: same time twenty twelve draft, right. I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: was going to do a Kirk Cousins. Ten years in Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: a fourteen year career overall, but ten years in Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: and Russ built a legacy here. The question I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to have for you guys next and I'll talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: Anders will talk about it. We'll get your thoughts four nine,
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  Speaker 1: four or five to one on the Tacoma Dodge text line.
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  Speaker 1: Also love some talkbacks today. I have to just go
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  Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app which apparently is working red microphone speak
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get your thoughts the the legacy of Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: When when someone says to you, Russell Wilson and you're
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  Speaker 1: a Seahawk fan, what's your overriding emotion, what's your What's
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  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on Russ today? Right now? Today? And
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  Speaker 1: you if you want to say, hey, greatest quarterback ever here,
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  Speaker 1: hall of famer. I don't. There's no right or wrong
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  Speaker 1: answer here, but I want to know what his legacy
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  Speaker 1: is here in Seattle. What's the first thing you think
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  Speaker 1: of when you think the first thing you think of?
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  Speaker 1: Because for me, I'm really conflicted, and I'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: that in the next segment. I think I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot to unpack with him. I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot to discuss with him. I think he's one of
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  Speaker 1: the To me, he's one of the most at the
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  Speaker 1: same time complicated yet fascinating great athletes in our city's history.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you this. I firmly believe that this
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  Speaker 1: team doesn't have a Super Bowl and didn't go back
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  Speaker 1: to back Super Bowl appearances without Russell Wilson or a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback of his level, and at that time that was
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  Speaker 1: that was three or four guys in the league at
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  Speaker 1: that level. Now does that make him a Hall of Famer?
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  Speaker 1: That's up for debate, and I really don't want to
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  Speaker 1: even do. You guys can tell me. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to get into the Russell Wilson Hall of Fame debate today.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he is a Hall of Famer, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, and that sucks because I wish he was.
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  Speaker 1: I want more of our guys that wore a Seahawk
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  Speaker 1: uniform be Hall of Famers. You think he's close, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's close. Do you think TV is going to
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  Speaker 1: help push him over? Is that a reason why he's
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  Speaker 1: doing this? Let's talk about that. We'll do that next
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  Speaker 1: Some of you guys are smart asses. Four nine four
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  Speaker 1: or five one two six now would be the best
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  Speaker 1: time to watch you on TV, especially the powers out.
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  Speaker 1: We can't see your faces. Haha. That's Emmy winning Ian forness.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't win because of the face, one because of
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  Speaker 1: our producer Scott our editor Stu Alison, and Brett Piper
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  Speaker 1: their coat tails. Okay, four nine four five one that
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  Speaker 1: will get some great text. By the way, on mister
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  Speaker 1: unlimited Russell limited fourteen years in Seattle with the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship. I don't I kind of subscribe to
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  Speaker 1: the Hugh Millen thing here in terms of where he was.
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  Speaker 1: The Pro Bowls don't mean much, you know, not a
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  Speaker 1: first team All Pro. Ever, hall of Fame is to
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  Speaker 1: be decided down the road later on. But I want
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  Speaker 1: to address what you said. I think it's a great point,
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  Speaker 1: right tell people what you brought up right before the break?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I asked because I wondered if you
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  Speaker 2: said originally he wasn't a Hall of Fame And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, okay, is he close? And then you said yes,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, Well, we've seen instances where
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  Speaker 2: borderline Hall of famers that continue to be in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL media slash TV after their careers over kind of
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  Speaker 2: take them over the top. And I'm wondering if that
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  Speaker 2: is a motivation for Russ in moving to this part
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  Speaker 2: of his career.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Kauer and Tony Dungee are the best examples. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: those two got into the Hall of Fame before Mike Holmgren,
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  Speaker 1: who still isn't They're both on TV. They both made
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  Speaker 1: a big deal did the networks and the NFL about
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  Speaker 1: them when they did it on their shows. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's any doubt it helped. I think Doungee had
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  Speaker 1: something else going for him as well. Just leave it
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  Speaker 1: at that, because both of them, if you just side
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  Speaker 1: by side at the resumes compared to Mike, that Mike's better.
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  Speaker 1: Mike should be in before them. So yeah, maybe so
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  Speaker 1: the TV element front and center here he is every week. Yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 1: right there, because it's a borderline case. Just real quick.
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  Speaker 1: There's a metric out there. Pro Football Reference does it.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty good metric. Hall of Fame Monitor basically the
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  Speaker 1: top two hundred and fifty Hall of Fame eligible quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: starting in nineteen fifty five. And there is a modern
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  Speaker 1: era element to this as well, the Hall of Fame Meter.
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  Speaker 1: They call it monitor. I should say the number associated
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  Speaker 1: with that usually to get in is around one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Russ is at ninety four point eight. Now there are
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  Speaker 1: guys that are in that aren't one hundred. Roger Staubach,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Dan Fouts, Kurt Warner might be the best comp, but
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he was an MVP, right, Kenny Stabler, Sunny Jurgensen, Bob Greasy,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Warren Moon, Joe Namath, Lynn Dawson, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly. Okay,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: here's the key though. All those guys had more either
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: had well either. They were non modern era guys, different time,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: so the numbers don't really kind of equate. The game
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: was a little different or in the case of most
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of those guys outside of Warren Moon didn't win a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Everyone else Jim Kelly didn't win a Super Bowl.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: These guys are all they were like MVPs at one
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: point was the best player at their position. He never was.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: So is he a Hall of Famer. That'll be decided
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: down the road. I just want to know what you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: guys think, and so let me just go before I
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: do mine, I'll go to you, I say, somebody comes
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: up to you. In fact, we'll just like your your
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: wife's family is not from here, good point, and they'll say, God,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Andrews, what about Russell Wilson? What do you say?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: What could have been?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: What could have been best Seahawks sorry, best quarterback in
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Seahawks history. I think it's pretty at this point, it's
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: not debatable.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: He kind of his story kind of came out of nowhere,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and I think at the time he was kind of
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the perfect quarterback for this team that was built the
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: way they were. And then he started drinking his own
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: kool a too much and unfortunately went south. And you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason outside influence, many have quoted his marriage
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: as a as new marriage as a reasoning behind that.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But and then it just never was the same after
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: after that kind of stuff kind of took over his life.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: So unfortunately, the first phrase that comes to mind is
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: what could have been?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's a good way to put it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: The complicated story of Russell Wilson here in this city
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: started on such an incredible note when he was drafted
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: in twenty twelve third round pick. I mean, it's one
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of those It's funny, Andrews, You'll find this as you
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: get older, especially with kids. And you're you're young, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: right now, who's watching Dad on YouTube? Which is the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: coolest thing. I've won the coolest videos. I see it
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a long time yesterday. You'll remember odd things like years later,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and then there'll be something that happened two weeks ago
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and go, yeah, I don't really remember that. That's me
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: right now already. Okay, and you know that's me. You
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: know that's because you live it every day, but you so,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget that day in twenty twelve when he
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: was drafted. We were doing the show, and it was
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: me because we did it. We all since since they
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: moved to the to the Virginia Bason Athletics Center. The
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: show Softy leaves usually he wants to leave, like at six.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: He usually leaves of seven, But we do the late
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: set on Thursday and Friday, and I say, well, it's
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: always Hugh, Rob rang Puck was with us that day
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and it was me. So it was like the four
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of us were sitting there. They had just signed Matt
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Flynn to a contract, Hasselbeck was done here, he's on
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: his way to Tennessee. I guess Matt was gone and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: he'd been aging and it was time for Matt to leave,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and Tavaris Jackson was was going to be you know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: he wasn't the guy, the late Tavaris Jackson. So they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: signed Matt Flynn, and Matt Flynn was kind of god
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: in some ways. Malik willis right, just like back up
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: in Green Bay to a Hall of Fame quarterback and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you're going to be the guy. And Matt was that
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: way as well, right, kind of fit the bill. Flynn
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: had that one great game at the end of the year.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: We all hung our hats on that. And they're bringing
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Matt Flynn in here and nearly the contract. It really
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't crazy obscene year ten million, I want to say
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: fifteen for a couple or something, but yeah, but he
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is gonna be the starter. Third round comes around on
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Friday and they take Russell Wilson and I remember we're
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: looking around, going what the kid from the kid from Wisconsin?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Like he's short, Like that's the first thing we're talking about, right,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And they brought him in and the first rookie mini
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: camp we go to, it's like, Okay, he looks different.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Well it's rookie mini caamp. You got a bunch of
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: guys out there that won't even be in a training camp.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: They won't even be going to CFL with rob rang
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: training camp. But then training camp comes, and even after
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the first rookie mini camp, Pete was effusive in his
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: praise for him, like off the bat, off the bat. Yes,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Then we gets training camp and it's Matt Flynn's job
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: to lose. And finally at the end of the preseason
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: he lost it. Now there's a question of what could
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: have been. Remember the throw of the end zone by
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Flynn the t dropped. I don't think, honestly, that's a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: good story. The coaches aren't looking at the catch. They're
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: looking at the throw. Right, they're looking at the throw.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It's a preseason game. The throw was there. As Chris
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Crawford always says, process versus result. So then you look
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and we watched him play though in the preseason, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Russ is running. Russ was at his best, scrambling, running,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: throwing on the run, rocket arm, doesn't matter if he's
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: short at that time. He's the guy, and we're all like,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is he gonna be yep? First game he starts in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: twenty twelve, team's coming off a seven to nine season,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't it Carolina. No, it's in Arizona. Okay, Okay, so
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: it's he threw the medicine ball in the end zone
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: at the end of Doug Baldin got his tooth knocked out.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: We were standing right there, Shranmick with our photog around.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: We're on the grass in the end zones between your
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin as far away as me. Yeah, because we're like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what the hell just flew out his mouth? It's a tooth.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: But I remember that game because I don't know who.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who the decent, who the decoordinator was.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Arizona at the time, had that reputation. They just were.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: They came, they blitzed ninety percent of the time. Yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and I remember watching early in the game, You're like,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: oh God, here they come, here they come. They're all them.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And he settled down and he started looking the part.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And they lost that game, but then they went on
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and had that incredible run at the end of the season,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. He leads him to win in
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: DC and they should have won in Atlanta, fell just
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: short Matt Bryan's slate field goal. But you could see like, okay,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: we kind of knew they had the defense. That was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: kind of readily apparent as the year was going on.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Now we knew, you know what, they got the quarterback,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and then obviously the next year they won the Super Bowl.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Russ was I would I don't know if i'd ever
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: say he was humble, but early on those first couple
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of years, including when they won the Super Bowl, he was.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: He was different than he ended up being now, especially
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the end of his career. I'll never forget I met him.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: When I met him, I saw him after the Super Bowl.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: We were in the Seahawks the hotel, the NFC hotel
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: was in New Jersey's ront of the Water, and I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: had gone and done a bunch of stuff at the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: stadium and it was a massive blizzard that day, the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: day after the Super Bowl, and I came back. It
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was like noon or twelve thirty and I came back,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: walked in and the place was kind of a ghost town.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Team had left everyone like a kind of cleaning stuff
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: up from the absolute gong show that was the party
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of the night before. Those guys were having right, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: they still had kind of like a souvenir stand for
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl stuff that they had in the hotel
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm walking up there and looking at some stuff
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, I'm not going to pay one
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars for a T shirt. But Russ and his
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: first wife came up and he walks up and we
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: were talking for a while, and I could he was exhausted.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: He was here's one thing people to know. He was
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: really sick. Really, he was really sick. Yeah, he had.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I think he was sick during the game too, because
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think that came on that quick because I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: walked up and I was like, and I'd done enough
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: stuff with him that like we could have a conversation.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: He knew wasn't like this. It's not like a fan
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: coming up here. So we were just talking and I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: kind of reached out and hey, and he's like, I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: can't shake it up. He goes, I'm sick, dude. He goes,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I am sick, and I'm like, wow, I said what
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: he goes and I gotta go do. He had to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: do like the late night show or something that night,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: so that's why he was still there, him and Ashton,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: his first wife. But we talked for a little while
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this guy he is going
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to be the greatest thing that ever happened to Seattle Sports.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Totally get it, totally gets it. And I would say
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: even at that point, appreciative of I think of the moment.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I was such a fan of his, just the person
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: at that point. And it changed. It definitely changed over
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the years. I'm not here to judge, and that's whatever
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: he did in terms of a divorce and getting remarried,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that's him and we don't know what was going on,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: nor should we care. But I don't think there's any
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: doubt that he did change when he married a pop star.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Is that related? Maybe maybe not hard to say it's not.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: It's you look at the timeline right around the same
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: time where things changed.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But I remember thinking, this dude gets it right, This
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: dude just gets it. And you know, we all knew
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the stories at the time about children's hospital and so
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: on and so forth, but I thought he got it
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and he at his best. God was he fun to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: watch when he was running around When he was and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he always wanted to be quote the pocket passer. He
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: didn't like when they were running the red zone and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. He didn't want to be known as
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a running quarterback and all those things. Just play your strength, dude.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You can't see over the middle. We've talked about that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a million times with you in hardcore football. There's a
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: legitimate thing you cannot when you're that sure. Your center
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was six'. Five, yeah the fact both your two centers
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: longest tenure centers were both six five sixty. Six him
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And Brent hunger And. Britain you can't. See but he
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: found a. Way he trusted his. TEAMMATES i think one
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: of the great things About russ at the. End you
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: look at that Second Super BOWL Nfc championship game Against Green.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Bay he wasn't, great the weather wasn't, great But jermaine was.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Awful jermaine cost him a couple of, Interceptions jermaine couldn't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: hold on the. Ball but the biggest play of the,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: game the game, winner he went right back To. Jermaine that's,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Trust i'm telling you right. NOW i mean he threw a.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Dime not a lot of guys like he. Did that was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: AWESOME i mean the crazy ass throw To Luke wilson
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: for the two point. CONVERSION i, mean he's think some
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of the magical plays he made over the. Years it was,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: awesome but the complications Of Russell wilson started coming in later.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: On he wanted to be the, star he wanted to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: be the. Guy he wanted to be the celebrity. Quarterback
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the entourage that was traveling on the. Road i've talked
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: about it. Before it was something. Crazy it went from
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: nobody or maybe his first, wife To, sierra two, nannies
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a personal, assistant security, guards all these. People the distractions were.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: There it was about it was about the. Entourage it
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: became that it's still about, football or is it about?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: That about being, bigger like being bigger than THE, nfl
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: being bigger than just the quarterback for The seahawks. Brand
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: it was totally a. BRAND i do believe truly that
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the stuff With Children's hospital was. Legit it was. Real
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: it's something he cared. ABOUT i know because my son
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: spent time there and we heard about it from people out.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: There we did shows out there With bender's thing with
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the one big. Gift that was. Real and there weren't
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: always cameras. There there were. Sometimes that's, fine there's nothing
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: wrong that, no but they weren't always. There but something
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: changed with, him and that's the unfortunate thing BECAUSE i
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: think his legacy is a little tainted In, seattle And
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: i'll tell you, why because of how he. Left we'll
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: do that next. Time three points three kids off.
• 29:13
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• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Fm all, right we got a ton of, text so
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to spend some time doing going through,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: text not just a two thirty. TODAY i appreciate all
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you guys texting. In appreciate all your concerns for our
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: power situation. Here YES i say. THAT i say that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: with tongue in cheek because none of you guys are.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Concerned you're just giving us a hard. Time, no we're
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: not just trying to get out of. Work, no because
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: here's the, thing it didn't. Succeed, no we're still working
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: some softy downstairs pulling the. Plug, no he's this way
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: too early for him to come. In he's probably At
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: jimmy's again today, anyway because he goes down there and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: gets free food and hangs.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Out it's, true smart, man actually. Yeah so to wrap
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: up the thoughts on the rust, thing the ISSUE i
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: think a lot of us had now the contract. Situation
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: contracts always gonna be. Acrimonious we had a great he
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: did a golf.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Tournament his would have been twenty fifteen. ISH i guess
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: his first contract was coming up and up At suncadia
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and we were up. There we did the show up,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: there AND i remember he leaned. Over we Had, god
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: who was the? Driver it wasn't the late Great. Biffel
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: who's the guy from out? Here we had a, driver
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: A nascar driver there with. US i forget who it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Was guy from out?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Here, OH i know you know What i'm talking. About,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah Derek cope, maybe, yeah maybe, anyway Not Jeff, Gordon, no, no,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: no was a guy from?
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, Anyway we're up there doing this and at one
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: point Puck ass the driver because we only had two.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Headsets So i'm sitting there With. Russ i'm gonna Interview
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: russ after, that and he, says you, know this guy
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is like kind Of, Joe, hey this guy deserved the.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Contract he, goes, hell, yeah he does these guys better
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: paying what he wants and rustling over to me and
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: he said off the, air he, says he, SAID i
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: don't think they believe that talking about The, seahawks AND i, WENT.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Whoa SO i asked him on the. Air he we.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: FOREVER i think we lost this to the sound. Bite
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: we had a sound bite the system for a long.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Time he, Says i'm a lot of, things but one
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Thing i'm not as a bad. Businessman he said that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to us and Son katie that, day and it was
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: like kind of the first TIME i think people Heard
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Russell wilson be like not, separation, preparation like it was
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: kind of. Unscripted, yeah soundscripted was. Unscripted it was like
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: off the, cuff off the, Cuff i'm, PISSED i WANT
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: i want my payday to. Come and he. Did he
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: got paid not once but twice here In. Seattle but
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: as years went, ON i think he always wanted to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: be the, guy and the way this team was, built
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: he wasn't ever really the. Guy there were always bigger, Stars, Marshawn,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: trump them All schrm to a certain, Extent earl Or,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: CAM i, mean guys that were in some. Ways you
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: probably a lot of times if you went to a
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: stadium you'd probably see more thirty, one twenty, four twenty five,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: jerseys maybe them. Threes he wanted to be the, guy
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: especially as stuff kind of evolved in in his. WORLD
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: i do one of my favorite stories with, him and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: this kind of does there's a good part of him in.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: There during THE covid year of twenty, twenty we were
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: doing the postgame shows For. Fox the first little while
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: we were trying to do him. Remote we weren't, traveling
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: but the home. Games he, said let's try to do one.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: There we still had to have the separation right from the.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Players we'd be, like you, know we, couldn't so we
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: had THE pr guys to put a headset on a.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Guy we tried to do it one. Time we had
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: all kinds of technical issues like, today but he couldn't hear.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: ME i was on a headset standing in the first
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: row of the stands at the twenty yard. Line he
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: was next to the, tunnel so twenty yards away with a,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: headset and we're coming back and they, said you, know let's.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: GO i, said can you hear?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Me?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Ross he looks, Over he looks at me for twenty
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: yards like guess, No, nogo and he, goes just, yell
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: just yell the. Question we did an interview with me
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: yelling questions to, him and he handled it like an
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: absolute PRO i was.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: SO i, thought now when he did, that when is
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: this in the? Timeline ag in what?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Year twenty? Twenty, OKAY covid. Year, yeah, no one's empty.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Stadium this is the Let russ cook. Stuff, russ what
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: do you?
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Think? Like?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Whatever? Yeah and he, answered and then we're. Done take
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the headsets. Off he kind of walks down part. WAY
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: i give him a, Thump, hey thank. YOU i appreciate
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that he has no problem got you in all this,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: stuff like he understood my, challenges our. CHALLENGES i really appreciated.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: That but then the next couple of, years he wanted
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to change things in the. Building he wanted to change
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: things and who was in the, building who was in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: charge of different, things the STORIES i heard about who
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: he wanted to get rid, of the demand, of, hey
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe john And pete need to go And i'll stay
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and bah, no, no, no, dude that's not how it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Works when he basically went To jody with some of those,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: demands including perhaps Even pete And john, going it was.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Over it was. Over So that's Why i'm, conflicted BECAUSE
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: i knew he wanted some good people not, there not
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: just the two guys in, Charge pete And, john but.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: OTHERS i had a problem with. That you're the damn,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: quarterback do your, job shut up and get. Out you're
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: not that big of a. Deal that key became Very
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers. Like So i've always been conflicted the last
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: few years with. Him at the end of the, day
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: who Is Russell wilson In, seattle best quarterback In seahawk's,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: history Borderline hall Of, famer Super bowl champion and this
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: team has only one Super bowl Without russell will and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: that would have been last. YEAR i go to my
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: grave with. That we can talk all we want about
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the play in Super bowl forty. Nine end of the,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: day is that his. Fault maybe probably a bad, decision
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: probably a bad play, call probably a combination thereof where
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: they trying to get him AN. MVP i don't really
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: think that was. IT i think it WAS i think
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: it was just, poor poor decision making all the way.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Around we're in game managing exactly exactly why are you?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: That, yeah it's, that it is THAT i. Know but
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So i'm conflicted with, Us BUT i also believe if he,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: is if he just tries to take a step, back
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: take some coaching from people in the broadcasting, WORLD i
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: think he'll be. GREAT i think he'll be great on the.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: AIR i think he's gonna add there's so much. Crap
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: there's so many guys that are doing those jobs that
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: are absolute, zeros. Zeros Tony, gonzalz this is a pretty.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Man he's awful on the. Air there's a lot of those.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: GUYS i Think russe will be. GREAT i Think russe's
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be really. Good AND i think it's a great
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: decision walk away. NOW i think what you said build
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it back up in the eyes of. Many hall Of
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: fame is a pretty specific. Thing Mike sanders gone through
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the process with. US i don't know if they'll buy into,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: that but there might be some. PRESSURE i hope he
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: gets in The hall Of. Fame we'll get to your
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: text four, nine four to five to. One some great
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: ones in there as. Well Russell wilson in five, words
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: success went to his. HEAD i might sum it up right.
• 36:34
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• 36:38
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• 38:44
  Speaker 1: fucking all. Things Miles, garrett pretty, cool GOT espn up
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: here right now watching ask him About. Russ that's About
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: russ for. Sure i'm watching right. Now Miles garrett. Highlights oh, god,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: wow these know not, fun really not. Fun, nope not
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: fun to see that at.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: All five time First Team All, pro two TIME Nfl
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Defensive player of The, year and he's now a member
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: of The, rams who already upgraded in the off. Season
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: with the additions of McDuffie And watson at, corner your
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: defense just got so much. Better hugh did a great
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: job yesterday and that was really good stuff with him
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: talking about you, Know Jared versus has just BEEN i,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: mean if You're seak, fan you know the name Of
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Jared versus and he's been a nightmare for this team
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: for the last Couple, yeah it's a relative win that
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: you don't have relative. Win The ryans just traded For Miles. Garrett,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: okay let's call it like it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Is they got. Better but thank you for jumping. In
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: don't have a fiber bar before or whatever that was fig.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Bar but not having to face Both jared vers And Miles. Garrett,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: yeah that's the only. UPSIDE i, mean and, listen he
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: did job yesterday explaining that like one guy looks he's
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like he's on THE jv and the other guy, doesn't you,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Know and which is pretty amazing when you think, that you,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: know a guy Like Jared vers looks like he's A
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: jv player when you compared To Miles, garrett because that's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: because he's a good. Player but it's. True so we'll
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: get that With lend as. Well coming up We mariners.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Talk we'll get into with with our Friend Joe shean
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in just a few, minutes some good stuff that he
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: actually wrote about on The joshian newsletter joshian dot com
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: about what's going on with the salary cap situation in
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the early negotiations with THE mlbpa And Major League. Baseball
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: it's not going to go. Well it just THERE'S i,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: know it's the first initial, discussions but everything we thought
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: might be coming up in terms of how far apart
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: they could be is doing exactly that right. Now so
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's not. Great so we'll get into that with,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: him and just few minutes talk about The mariners as
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: well and what's going on and h and how they're
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: surging right now with their seven straight, wins just kind
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of humming. Along but Like andrews, mentioned Earlier texas isn't going,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: away so now they decide they want to get good
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: at the same. Time so good Thing seattle is doing,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: well because otherwise otherwise it could be going.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: On, okay by the, way but you were asking me,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Earlier ian in the break three, games.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: What's? Up three?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Three both semi? Finals, okay what we will do is
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: we will get to all. That we're gonna do something
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: later in the week with The World, cup, Right, YEAH
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: i love. That, OKAY i love.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: That asked the question earlier About Russell. Wilson he's he's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: obviously probably done and moving on and going into the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: world broadcasting. Now so we just got to ask your
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: thoughts on. HIM i want to get to. It Casey,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: kine thank you very. Much that was the Nice. YES i,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: THINK i, THINK i think WITH i think With. Russ
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: how how complicated his relationship was here In. Seattle it shouldn't,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: diminish especially his. Departure what do you? Accomplished somebody asked
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the other, day AND i saw this in the text line,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: too when do you, think and you, know think he's
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: going to be A ring of honor? Guy one hundred?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Percent this this organization has a great ability to forgive and.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Forget i'll give you a couple. Examples one top of
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the list Is kenny easily. Late kenny Easily kenny easily
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: sued the. Organization let me explain That kenny easily sued
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the organization, said, YES i am suing. You lawsuit. Filed
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: couldn't have been a worse departure from the. Team years,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: later he's in The hall Of. Fame he's in The
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: ring Of. Honor, forgive, forget you move. On there's been.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Others listen the Way. Sherm you, know When sherm, left
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: went To San, francisco ended up In. Tampa that was
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: not a great. Divorce Richard sherman's out at practice all
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the time. Now mike, McDonald John schneider welcoming back into the.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Organization Mar shawn was one of the most difficult players
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: they've ever worked with and dealt. With marshawn welcome back
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: with open. Arms Michael bennett famously said he was Ignoring
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Pete carroll and reading his book during some of his.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Things i've heard all this. Before he said That sherm said.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: That guess who's part of the Broadcast in the. Preseason Michael.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Bennett they this, Team Russell wilson will be in The
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: ring Of honor, SOON i, WOULD i think the question
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: really for, them which of the players from that First
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Super bowl team is the first one in The ring Of? Honor,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Oh Bobby wager still? Playing so do you wait Till?
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Bobby Because bobby is the most decorated of all of.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Them bobby is and left on the best quote unquote best. Terms,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: YEAH i mean left came back and they were ready
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: to move, on AND i think he was ready AND
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: i think he was. Too and you, KNOW i, mean
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: if we're Being bobby isn't the same. Place he's Not
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Ernest jones now. Today, no but but that's But, Yeah
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: SO i THINK i think if you wait Until bobby,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Retires bobby probably should be number. One, YEAH i, agree
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: he should be the. First, maybe but you, know they'll
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: they'll put in a couple of guys at the same.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Time they did that with With mike And. Hasselback. Yeah
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: and it's funny BECAUSE i mentioned earlier with my but
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: he will be make no, Mistake, Yeah Russell wilson will
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: be in The ring Of, honor probably at at some
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: point fairly, soon like in the next few years after
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: he's officially done.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Done, yeah and WHEN i say what could have? BEEN
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: i just look At Bobby wagner's kind of weigh his tenure. Wentings,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: yeah that's WHAT i feel. Like it's such just such
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: a hard thing in this. League you, know like you
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: can you you. Get it's just too, HARD i think
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: in some ways to have the perfect end and the
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: perfect you know way to finish. YOU i, mean, listen
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: look at look At Tom. Brady do we really ever
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: think of him as A Tampa bay. Buccaneer, yeah he won,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: it like Maybe Pat mahomes days In Kansas city his whole.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Career But Aaron, Rodgers brett farre those guys were. Packers i'll,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: wait they're. Not they went to other teams and bounced
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: around for a while at the end of their. Career
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: it's hard to have That russ could have probably ended
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: his career here if he would have been a little
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: bit more open, minded a little bit more of a team,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: guy a little bit more of a, hey here's what
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: we can pay you because we're still trying to build the.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Team maybe, Not maybe they were just ready to move
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: on and say diminishing skill, set which it, was and
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: we're better off and they are better off right. NOW
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: i don't know if there's ever been more of a
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Nondescript Super bowl champion quarterback not Named Trent dilford Than
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Sam donald last.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Year and that's not a Shot Sam. Donald Sam donald
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: was just an unassuming team. Guy that, TEAM i think
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you can make an argument won A Super bowl because
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: their quarterback had enough elite play in him to win
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a Damn Super.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Bowl he's the reason they won THE nfc championship, game
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: if you guys. Remember but that guy was also part
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: of the sum of the. Parts, yes And russ was
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: part of the sum of the, parts great, defense good.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Offense that wasn't just a star quarterback Doing Pat mahomes.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Things OR i hate Saying Aaron rodgers Because Aaron rodgers
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: only won Won Super bowl, Too?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Right who was more important to their respective? Team Sam,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Darnold Russe wills for The Super? BOWL M, Wow? RUSS
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: i THINK i Agree russ even that early in his.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Career, YEAH i think It's.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Russ.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah so they Say Cam chancer will be in
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: The ring of. Honor First cam held out. Too he
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: did cost. Him cam's holdout might have been the most
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: costly holdout they had that cost them home field. Advantage that,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: year they lost their first two, games and specifically The
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Saint louis game was one hundred because his replacement wasn't
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: good and they scored a late touchdown and then won
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: it on plays that he should have been in there.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: FOR i Love cam, though by the. Way oh, YEAH
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: i think THE lb probably goes in.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Together.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: YEAH i think when you Do, cam you Do shehrm
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And earl at the same. TIME i think that's just
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a no. Brainer all, right we'll take break great. Tax
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: we'll get to those coming. UP i said to you,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: earlier but we'll just get to me two. Thirty we'll
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: try To we'll somehow try to Cut lund off earlier. Again,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: yeah if we want to talk back for AND i
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: go to the iHeartRadio. App i'm sure we got a
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: couple of those coming. In we'll check those later on as.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Well we come. Back Joe shean Talks mariners and talks potential. Lockout, next.
• 47:39
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• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Shean it is our Weekly Joe Shean Baseball Segment fix
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: if you want to call it as. Well there's some
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: things in baseball that need, fixing specifically a labor, agreement
• 48:16
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• 48:18
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• 48:23
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• 48:23
  Speaker 3: YOU i was kind of.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: Wondering whether you're going to have me. BACK i took
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: last week off and The mariners haven't lost.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Since, oh and NOW i know who to blame and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: make note of that, Tonight andrews make note of that
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: tonight with a seven game winning streak on the line
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: on my.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Postcast if oh my, goodness didn't even think about, that
• 48:42
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• 48:44
  Speaker 1: with last week because we were off On monday because
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: of The Memorial day, Holiday so we just moved Our
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Mullywap monday statement With nathan And chris To tuesday and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: replaced you with. THEM i don't know how that went,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: over to be honest with, you with our. Listeners i'm,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Great Oh andrews still the down grade out. THERE i like, It,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: YEAH i like it all.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Right it tells me you can't replace me with one
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: person you need.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Too but, yeah AND i don't know about you and those.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Two i'm escual and the mayors are, Winning, yeah, truly kind.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Of it's been a hard it's been a hard show
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: with those two guys when they're, winning Especially. Nathan He's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: chris is a little bit more Levelheaded Nathan, Bishop he's
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: not really sure how to handle, things so he's a
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: just a, curmudgeon which that's why we love.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Him all.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Right before we get into our red hot baseball, team
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the Surging Texas rangers also some of the teams you
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: wrote about as. Well we've talked about it a number of, Times,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: joe let's let's just go back down the. Road there's
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: a big part of me that is that is having
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: a LITTLE ptsd from ninety four. Here AND i don't
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: THINK i don't think baseball would ever be that dumb.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Again but we have seen the, early early back and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: forth with the negotiations with The Players association And Major
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: League baseball. Owners, joe how concerns should fans Be.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: June Seconds and at this, POINT i don't think there's
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: just a whole lot to know one way or the.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: OTHER i do think there are a lot of reasons
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: FOR mlb not to go down that rood.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: Now one of the issues is that there's not a
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: lot OF dna on either side that remembers ninety. Four
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: you don't have that muscle. Memory you, Know jerry REYIN
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: starf is more or less the only owner left, around
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: and there's really not a whole lot of. Player there's no,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: players and there's very few executives in The union anymore
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: who had a piece of that back. Then but you,
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: know between it's a different medium environment. Now it'd be
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: harder to come back from something like. THAT i think
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: that's the big. Thing, obviously there's a lot of money
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: in the. Game every game you miss now costs The, Dodgers, yankees,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: whatever a lot more money than it did back. Then
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: there are a lot of reasons to avoid a disaster
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: and one of the things about the exchange of offers
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: last week is that they're speaking completely different. Languages the
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: owners have profered a cap, system the players have profered
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: changes to the current. System there's no middle ground between
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: those two. Things there on completely different. Axes so the
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: first thing that has to happen is one of these
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: two sides has to. Concede the players say, okay we'll
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: accept the cap, system which isn't going to, happen or the,
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: owners after a couple of rounds of, trying probably go,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: okay we'll just accept changes to the current. System and
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: then at least you're on the same. Page your two
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: sides negotiating over the same. System right, now you're having
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: two completely different.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Conversations, joe help help, me fans others out with the,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: owner like which owners do you think really want to
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: cap like maybe percentage? Wise or who would want a
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: cap that's an owner and who would not want a
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: cap that's an? Owner like what size? Market what types
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: of teams would want a cap and would not want
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: to cap?
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: Thirty owners would want to cap thirty because you get cost,
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: certainty you get that locked, in you get to when
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: you go to sell the team say, hey you're only
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: going to have to you, know collectively or only giving
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: up fifty percent of revenue some of. You if you're
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: a small market, team a lot of that is going
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: to come from the large market. Teams with the large
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: market teams getting a deal like this is the lower.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Payroll so this you go back to ninety four and
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: we're kind of still having the same fight we had
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: in ninety four because it's not really owners and, players
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: it's high revenue, owners low revenue owners and. Players high
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: revenue owners will agree to increased revenue, share it. Says
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: what this, says this is a big fight over the
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: money that seven or eight teams are making in their
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Local beaudia. Market so if you're a, small low revenue,
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: TEAM i don't like small, market a low revenue, team
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: you're going to have to push your payroll, up but
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: you're going to be doing it with other people's, money
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: so you're fine with. That if you're a high revenue,
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: team you're going to be giving up a lot of
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: that local, revenue but you're also not going to have
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: to pay the players as. Much the rules are going
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: to say you can't pay the pay players as much
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: And basically if the owners agree to that structure and
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: then go to the, players and the players going to,
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: wait this doesn't work for us at, All and that's
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: then we're in nineteen ninety four. Again owners have to
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: figure out how they're going to distribute their, money and
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: then when they do, that they go to the players and,
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: say we're going to take it out a year.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Behind see that's WHAT i was, thinking and maybe there
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: is some thought this, way is that if you are
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: a low, revenue lower revenue team with a lower payroll
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: and there's what was the, number how many teams would
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: would have to come? Up do you just get to
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the basement to the floor like ten or eleven something
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: that below what the floor would. BE i was wondering
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: how many of those owners would, say, yeah we're good
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: without the, cap because with the cap comes the, floor.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: But you're getting even additional, money like right, now at
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: the extremes the teams and this is an estimate based
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: on things were written like six years, ago just go with.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: It the extremes are The, Dodgers, yankees et. Cetera putting
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: about eighty to one hundred million dollars into the. Kitty
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: your pirates, royals brewers types are collecting about that much
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: from the kiddy every single, year and those teams aren't
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: spending that money on. Payroll some of these teams aren't
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: spending as much on payroll as they're getting in local
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: revenue you, sharing just local revenue.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Sharing i'm not.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Talking about national. Money i'm not talking about selling tickets
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: and hot dogs at the. Ballpark so the new system
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: would not only give them that, money it would actually
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: add to that. Money the teams in the lower end
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: you're talking about your pirates and your brewers and the oils,
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: here the money that they would be spending on additional
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: payroll wouldn't be their. Money it would still be money
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: coming from the other. Teams they're actually going to be
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: fine no matter. What and if they get a cap,
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: system that's the kind of thing that really here's to franchise. Values,
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: well the biggest thing driving this right now is the
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: increase in franchise values that the owners would get from
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: this kind of. System once you put a system in
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: place that locks in your expenses at fifty percent of
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: player expenses fifty percent of, revenues it could potentially go
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: down over. Time as we've SEEN i know THE nfl
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: is going to try for that in the next. Negotiation
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: but once you've locked in a cap, system your franchise value.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: Skyrockets and that's what this is about right. Now it's
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: not about competitive is sort of a fairness something really
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: about The. Dodgers it's about a cap system drives up franchise.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Values josh and join, Us, joe this you, said we
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: go back to ninety. Four they've talked about. This every
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: time there's been a collective barty in agreement that has
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: come up for, renewal, renegotiation it always comes. Up is
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: this in your eyes someone who's watched it for all those?
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Years is this different than what we've seen? Before and if,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: so is it going to cause issues a year from
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: now or ten months from?
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: Now, well for in that we haven't seen the owners
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: go for a cap system since ninety, four and then
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: of course we lost The. Lows is really really basically and,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: honestly the players exceeded to be at creased revenue sharing
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: and tax. System let's the first The chris revenue share
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: was ninety. Eight that was also the first tax system
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: that it was based on. Payrolls it was a whole.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Mess it took him a few years to get it straightened.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: Out but one of the things that we have a
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: situation now is that the system the owners have right
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: now is the best system they've had since nineteen seventy,
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: five since before free agency was a, lot since the
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: reserve clause was the law of the. Land the system
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: in place right now is better for owners than anything
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: they've had since before free agency. Started so whereas in ninety,
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: FOUR i think they were trying to make the argument
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: that we can the cap system is definitely better and
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: it's worth a, war it's not as clear now that
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: the difference between the system they have now and a
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: payroll cap system is better for them in terms of
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: immediate financial. Benefit again the revenue setting aside the franchise
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: value part of, it which is. Real the owners are
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: in such good position right now in terms of all
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: the levers they, control having players for three years below market,
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: value having them for three years after that at less
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: than market, value being able to know the, data the
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: things that we collect down knowing about career paths and,
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: stuff and just how few players actually are worth truly investing.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: It all of those things that were down into the
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: value of the, teams the, analytics revenue revolutions you want
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: to call, It that is definitely benefits of the team
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: more than the players guilty as. Charged BUT i DON'T
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: i think that's the difference between this year and some
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: other negotiations where the owner's position is so strong THAT
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: i don't think they have to go for a cap
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: to make it. Better now let's say they. Might and
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: this is WHERE i think we're going to get to
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: just kind of circle back. HERE i mentioned this is
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: the beginning. Stages the owners didn't put a lot of
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: detail into their. Offer it was a, cap here's the,
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: range we're gonna split, revenue fifty to, fifty and then
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: they kind of just wave their hands a. Bit the players.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: Present the player's proposal was long in. Detailed the owners
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: can now do a couple of cycles of changing their,
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: proposal adding to, it making it seem like they're standing on.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: Principle then we get To november Or, december say, okay,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: fine we're going to give up the, cap and now
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: let's negotiate over the terms of the system we have,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: now revenue sharing and.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Taxes and what have.
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: You and that's where the players are, right and that's
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: at that, point you're starting to have the actual. Negotiation
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: until we get to, that nothing can happen until these two,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: teams these two sides are negotiating over the same, terms
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: either a cap system or a tax. System there's not
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: really a middle graph for them to get. To so
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: it's you, know It's i'm happy they're. Talking It's june
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: second and we're having these. POWERS i know you'd rather
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: the talk ball And i'd rather talk. Ball but the
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: fact that they're starting this In, JUNE i.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Think is a possible and you kind of scratch the
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: surface of this final. Thing and concerned listener and baseball
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Fan Anderson hurst has this AND i think that's it's
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: a great. Question he just texted, me And i'll kind
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: of Add i'll add a little bit to. That If
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Joe sheen was sitting in the room and you, were
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: you were the arbitrator and you're trying to bring them.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Together andrews has a great. Question he, says is there
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: anything the owners could concede in order for in order
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: for the players to then concede getting a.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: CAP i, mean they could offer some very large percentage of,
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: revenues and you, know you, know there was A i
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: don't think percentage of revenue is the best way to
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: be the only way to evaluate the merits of a.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: System and you'll see people, say, well they're getting forty
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: seven percent of. Revenue now to be getting fifty, Percent i'm, like,
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: yeah but there's a lot of other things baseball players.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Get for, one they get to choose where they. Go
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: like the the cap, leagues the players are fighting themselves for.
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: Money here's a big pile of, money you guys all
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: go fight yourself. For that's a corrosive environment for any. Union,
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: also players eventually have the land in places that are
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: bad organizations just because well they're the team that has money.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: Left baseball players don't have to do. That in a cap.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: System you have to go to bad, organizations accept bad
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: employers because they're the only people that are the money
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: to pay. Them so there are a lot of reasons
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: beside just percentage of. Revenue but, yeah the owners could
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: say we'll give you fifty eight percent of, revenue AND
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: i think at that point the players might have to take.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: It could they offer them three year free agency? Member
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: baseball players are have to take the longest. Path the
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: free agency of any players in any of these, sports you,
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: know could You but that presumes that the owners want
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: the cap enough to make give up all of these
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: other advantages that they. Have and that's What i'm, saying
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: that they have so many advantages right. NOW i think
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: that's where you're going to get resistance to the the.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: Owner so if we're the players AND i said this
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: deals came out off for five year free agency and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: like a two million dollar minimum salary and some other,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: stuff they might be able to get a, cap but
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: they don't want. That they want the cap and they
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: want everything.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Else i'm gonna wrap it up with this because we
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: we've done this, before But i'm gonna do it again
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: just BECAUSE i get asked this all the, time you,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: know and people say when they bring it, up when
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: they bring up the salary, cap and you, Know i'll reference,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: You i'll reference you, Know, Sarahs Chris, crawford others like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: guys THAT i really, trust their baseball, acumen, knowledge understanding
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: of the history of the. Game everything goes into it as.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Well So i'm gonna Ask i've asked you this, before
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: SO i, apologize BUT i do want to have this
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: on the record because people will ask this AND i
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: don't really always have the best. ANSWER i Paraphrase Joe,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: shean why should there or should there not be a salary?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: Cap and all the cap is there is an agreement
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: and mo among. Owners i'm on capitol to cap the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: cost of. Labor if you look around the leagues that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: have salary cap payroll caps from the turn payroll, Cap
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: i've all broken their. Yunus the one league that doesn't
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: have a payroll cap is the one that hasn't broken its.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Union that should really be a lesson as to who
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: benefits from a payroll cap. SYSTEM a payroll cap is
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: the reward for breaking.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And bottom, line it doesn't change in your mind the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: competitive balance of the.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: League, NO i mean the data is out there AND
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: mlb is actually positioning this as. Well our fans think
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: we have a competitive balance. Problem, well because you've been
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: telling them and lying to them about that for fifty years.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: NOW mlb doesn't have a competitive balance. Problem you look
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: at MLB's track record based on records fluid of the of,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: standings who makes the, playoffs who makes The World, series
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: who wins? Championships you compare that to THE nba and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: THE nfl and they're all basically the. Same and mind,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: YOU mlb has disadvantages in that. Context we let fewer
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: people into the. Playoffs we play the longest regular season in,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: sports so there's fewer. Flukes THE nfl plays a seventeen game,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: seats it's essentially seventeen it's it's just propping a coin seventeen.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Times and so you, know you have two games with
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: really good fumble, luck and the simmers are making the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: playoffs and. Not you can't do that in. Baseball you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: have to play good for two hundred and six and two.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: Games so the competitive balance of baseball is not any
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: worse and is really better than it is in the cap.
• 1:02:12
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  Speaker 1: right let's talk a little bit on the on the.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Field our team surging right. Now they, Are they've won
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: seven straight. Games they got a two and a half
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: game lead of The. Rangers it's still kind of an
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Interesting American league in terms Of tampa And New york
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: head and shoulders above everybody. Else cleveland up there as,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: well But seattle's starting to kind of get it. Going
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: and that's Without Kyle. Raley it's Without Brendan. Donovan what's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: impressed you about our baseball team?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: HERE i, MEAN i think they navigated this pishing thing.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Reasonably.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: WELL i know it's been a local, controversy but, yeah
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: you look at a game like the other day When
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: biller goes spot And castillo goes, five and that's like
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: the dream they played an extra inning just So castillo
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: could go five. Innings, UH i think there's.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: By the, way in that, Game, joe sorry to. Interrupt
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: in that, game both pitchers pitched five. Innings both pitchers
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: pitched seventy one pitches exactly, perfectly.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: Playing perfect a. Lager it's actually the First it was
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: the first time that two pitchers for one team had
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: gone five innings in the. Game do you remember the last?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: Time you?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: Should?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Wow uh, No and that's gonna bother me THAT i
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: should what is?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: It eighteen inning playoff? Game against the one nothing. Game
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: that's WHAT i was going to.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Guess, yeah oh, wow that Was that was the.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: Last time two pitchers on one team at each five inning.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Games it was the first time in the regular. Season
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: this is like twenty. Eighteen it takes one of these
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: really long games usually for it to, Happen so it
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: was something of a. Mook but, NO i Never i'm.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: Not i've been the guy saying The marriers are going
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: to be final all, along So i'm going to give
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: you the same the same.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Riff.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: Again this is the best team in the, division of
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: the deepest.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Team in the.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: Division they've. Wrestled you Mentioned rally And, donovan but you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: remember they were Missing Brash inspire for a bunch of that.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: TIME i, mean they have some guys pitching out of
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: the BULLPEN i literally never heard of for a look
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: because it Was Brash Fire inspire out and Also Jose
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: ferrer went on. Paternity, yep, yes it is so, yeah
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: it looks like three guys in the bullpen who had
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: never been in my. Kitchen just, incredibly just the random
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: squestion of the. Guys they're healthy, now So i'm the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: two and a half up on The. Rangers of the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: only five hundred team in the. Division i've said to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: somebody the other, day AND i don't put this on
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: the line. HERE i think The mariners will pinch their
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: division before any other team goes.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Barking that right, now flip that, please but, Listen joe
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: And airs will tell you. This i've been saying that as.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: WELL i.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Can, guys get up, there don't be drinking and sub.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Like if you just look at the division and look
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: At seattle and look at the roster and look at
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: the pitching, staff it's, like like you just, said they're
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  Speaker 1: head and shoulders above. Everybody except let me ask you
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  Speaker 1: about are the Tire i'm? Sorry are The rangers becoming
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: a concern at? All they've won four in a, Row
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  Speaker 1: THEY'RE i, mean they're they're a couple of games Behind.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle are we seeing something signed of? Life should The
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: rangers be a concern to our team?
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  Speaker 5: Here how many games left do they get to play
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: with The? Royals because that's what they did this. Weekend
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: they sent the Bad royals there you, go Bad royals,
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  Speaker 5: team and there's a lot of that going. Around there
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: are some bad teams this yere where you look at these,
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  Speaker 5: oh they must be. Hot you look and they played you,
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  Speaker 1: Joe we just saw. That we just saw that With.
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  Speaker 1: Arizona arizona came IN theyd one eleven of thirteen and
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  Speaker 5: Games, yep they had two weeks of games against The
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  Speaker 5: rockies And. GIANTS i was talking about that when the month.
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  Speaker 5: Started and now they're probably a wildcard contender as. Well
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: but you can't look and just, say, oh, well, wow
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: they're really. Hot, no they've played bad. Team so call
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: me when The rangers get over five. HUNDRED i think
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: THERE i said at the start of the, YEAR i
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  Speaker 5: BELIEVE i had them as my last wildcard, team And
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  Speaker 5: i'll stick by. That BUT i just think the separation
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: here we're going to see from The. Mariators The mariners
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: are going to play some very good baseball, here and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: they say they're going to get rallied back who even
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: if he's not last Year's, rally which we don't expect
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: them to. BE i, mean he's going to be more
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  Speaker 5: like the one you're used to from twenty three and twenty.
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  Speaker 5: FOUR i Think donovan will be interesting because obviously third
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: base is now probably on an option to return to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: which is. Fine he didn't play it. Well he's going
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: to end up in this kind of rotating role playing some.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: Outfield i'm kind of fascinated to see how this works.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Out you know what he, hears AND i think he
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: gives them the luxury to wait on him and make
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: sure he's healthy this time when he comes off the.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: Il but that's a great obtdis to be able to
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: eventually bring. Back so, NO i just think they have
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: more talent than anybody. Else The. Rangers they can't. HIT
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: i mean the series over the. Weekend you, know they
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: playing without you, know they've been playing without The, seeger
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: they've been playing Without. Langford they're better than they've. Been
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: they're not going to stay in the five hundred all year,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: long BUT i just you, know anything can. Happen and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: we talked about head ted games a lot in recent
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: years because it seems like these division races always come
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: down to these late season. Series and, yeah The rangers
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: can end up going ten and three against The matters
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: is stealing the. Division BUT i think it's much more
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: likely that The mariners clinch, around you, Know september twentieth or.
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  Speaker 1: So you're a baseball guy through and. Through you got
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  Speaker 1: to enjoy watching our young get Cold emerson up here playing.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: You donovan's not Going donovan's not coming, back like he's
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: not going to be sitting there at third. BASE i
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: hope you want what About? Donovan what ABOUT? JP i,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: mean you can't take this kid out of the lineup right,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Now Joe.
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  Speaker 5: No, Uh and that's great to. SEE i mean not.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: EVERYBODY i want to believe teams are, oh you, know
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: we don't care what he. Hits as long as he
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: plays the position and plays every. Day it's easier to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: make that call when the player comes up and hits
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: and you know it's Not you look at twenty eight
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: since strike out, rate fourteen to, five strike, out the walk.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: Ratio these are. Fine he's a twenty year old player
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: making his major league. Debut those numbers are actually much
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: better than. Fine, obviously the power has been. There it's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: been great to. See and there was some, TALK i
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: think during my off week About crawford and actually switching.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: POSITIONS i Know Chris crawford's been over this And i've
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: been over this we'll see what this. Happens but if
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: you do move him to, SHORTSTOP i think it makes
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: it even more certain that he stays. Up you're not
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: going to make that move with a guy who you
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: might have been eventually send. Down SO i think it's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: been great And Cole, young fantastic, defender gets on. Base
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: off these valuable and just this organization has really started
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: burping up. Talent we've talked about a pitching over the
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: last three or four. Years now they're purping ups of
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: hitting talent as.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah they've just a great job By jerry and
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  Speaker 5: There, okay some excerpts in recent. Weeks in recent, DAYS
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  Speaker 5: was off last. Week YESTERDAY i took a long look
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: at offense in the, league which has been really. Weird
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: may was one of the worst hitting days in baseball.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: History The elite hit two thirty nine and this is
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  Speaker 5: we haven't seen in a really long. Time the baseball
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  Speaker 5: isn't dead the way it was in recent years. Either
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  Speaker 5: it looks like guys aren't hitting the ball as. Hard
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: and one of the Things i'm starting to think about,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: is you, know we're talking a lot about how pitchers
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: throw so hard now and that's why the strikeout rate went,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: up but the breaking stuff is. Nasty and now it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: seems like we're getting to a point where pictures throw
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: so many pitches they're actually getting better at inducing weaker.
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  Speaker 5: Contact we saw as the velocity and hard hit rate
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  Speaker 5: go down In. May it was the lowest number since
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty. Four AND i just think pictures have so
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  Speaker 5: many different ways of dominating the game. NOW i don't
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  Speaker 1: Star weekend is. Back So All Star weekend from the NHL's.
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  Speaker 1: Back the last two years we haven't Had we had
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  Speaker 1: WORLD i close The. Russia, then, Yes, Okay, yeah you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to exclude The russians From All star, weekend
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  Speaker 1: three on three tournament tournament On. SATURDAY i like, that
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  Speaker 1: that before The Four. Nations, yeah that gets a little
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  Speaker 1: i'll give THE nhl a lot of. Credit they do
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  Speaker 1: of these other leagues, too BECAUSE I, i it was
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  Speaker 3: right when this, happened and you know. THIS i, mean
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  Speaker 3: normally these insiders kind of get a whiff of something
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: and so they start reporting it and everything and then
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: but in this, case it is so hilarious when these
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: guys don't get the. Story so like The Jay Glazers
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: Adam schefter rap, sheet they're all and they're all great
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: what they, do but it's like when they get totally
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: scooped on, this like WELL i did say, that you?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Did like somebody had, This nobody had, this, nobody this
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: was just out of The i'm on the air And
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: i'm like, What, LIKE i, seriously it's, like wait a,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: minute did you check the check? Mark was it the right?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: Guy was?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: It you?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Know schefter with like three f's that reported, This like what? What?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 8: What?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: What, like this is, crazy it's.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Nuts, yeah it was What so Yesterday, john we had
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: a date so our our show before, Me Greg, bell
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: The Great Greg, Bell Captain bell from THE Us army
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: and arts coma news from Being Seahawk rider in the
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: span of eight, minutes tell, me this Isn't Radio gold
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: In june for for a local. Market and this is
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: all right now you just hit. It june slow, month just.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Brutal So i'm driving and listening and in this course
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: of eight minutes Time Miles garrett goes to your biggest,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: rival The La Rams and eight minutes later we find
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: out that And i'll explain why this is. Relevant eight
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: minutes later we find out, that, Oh Melinda French, Gates
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: bill gates ex. Wife she is now a minority investor
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: in The Seattle kraken With Samantha, holloway who is the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: majority owner of The Seattle, kraken who by the, way also, owns,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: operates and Runs Climate Pledge arena and is leading the
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: charge to get THE nba back here and looking to
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: put together an ownership. Group and, oh, Yes Melinda gates
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: is worth thirty billion. Dollars you think that was a,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: like are you kidding? Me can we spread this stuff
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: out over two?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Days opposite sides of the of the spectrum? Too you
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: know it's like one side like, yeah the other side
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: like h.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah like that's WHY i say, yes it's like, Okay
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: like and the thing is is the The gates stuff
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: that kind of got pushed aside because of the stress
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: that every is having Over Miles. Garrett But i'm, saying,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: guys it's kind of bad News, garrett good news if
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: you were thinking at, all, boy do they do they
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: have the investors for all that? Money billions of dollars
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: for AN nba? Franchise and and who are? They would
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: THE nba be? Interested do you think THE nba be
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: interested in two females owning AN nba expansion franchise In? Seattle?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Probably and one's last name Is?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Gates and then it's, like, sorry we can't tell you the.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Team you gotta check your. Credit i'm not sure if it's,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: like what do you? Gate that's my credit out this credit?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: Application my last name Is, Gate you're in you know?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: WHAT i?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Mean what better backing could you?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: HAVE i think we're, okay all, Right well let's get
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: to The Miles garrett. Stuff so this goes, down as he,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: said kind of came out of, nowhere all like like
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: it was one of those. Things i'm sure you did
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: the same thing people like when we listen to it
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: To Chris kid the producer And greg, yesterday they're, Like,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: okay this. Happened hang, on let's. Check is THIS ai
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: generated some fake? Account and now we're all, thinking please
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: let it be a fake. Account uh, no it's. Not
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: it's a real. Deal what's what's the reaction For John?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: Lenz, well here's first and foremost the same kind of.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: Thing when our, guys you, know like every radio station
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: they play this breaking news and it's normally just like,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: stuff not breaking, news like stop it when he first said,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: it and our producer said on the, air And Miles
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: garrett's been traded. Too AND i swear to you my
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: first thought Was, seattle just BECAUSE i didn't think The
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: rams would do. This they already made their big, Move
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: they already Got trent, McDuffie they already made their, moves
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: AND i, thought, well it's gonna be A seattle counter.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: Offer and the Way John schneider works and you're gonna you,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: know they probably still need addressers like that would be the.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Team and when he Said, rams you, know it reminds
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: me of because everyone on The West coast.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Is the same.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: Way and when you get back into THE, nba but
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: you know this from from your time of The. Sonics
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: everybody hates The lakers and The dodgers and The rams
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: and it's because they make moves that your team. Doesn't,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: now The seahawks do. This it's not that it's just for,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: example the forty nine ers are all excited and they
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: Got Mike evans and they think they're back in this.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: Thing and now you, know The rams do. This The
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: lakers did this With, luca The dodgers do with do
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: this with Though. Tani like they just they have a
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: different thing that they can do and they make these
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: moves and they you, know Getting trent McDuffie was bad,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: enough and now you get a guy Like Miles garrett
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: and now AND i do truly believe this because McAfee said.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: That pat McAfee said that he Contacted Aaron donald And donald, said,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: WELL i got to make sure that the light the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: fires lit under. Me, okay you don't have to go
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: to training, camp you only have to. Play maybe twenty
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: or twenty five. Snaps you only have to play full
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: time and you have a hell of a chance to
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: get in A Super, bowl ring up the fires lit.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Again LIKE i.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: Expect Aaron donald to be, Back, Now DO i expect
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: him to be what he? Was just an absolute wrecking ball? Terror,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: No but for twenty or twenty five plays a night
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: at thirty five years, old he can do. That So
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: i'm not saying these things to depress. Everybody it's just
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: That Miles garrett's gonna be sitting next, to you, Know Aaron,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: donald and that's not gonna be good for the rest
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: of the, league but more specifically the rest of THE.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Nfc are you telling me That Aaron donald that thirty
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: five would be an upgrade over poona? Four, yeah, okay
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: he would be over a poot of.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: Four and, well and that's the scary part, is you, know,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: offensively the only team in you guys know this that
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: could figure out The seahawks was The rams and then
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: you add these guys. Defensively, now the one Thing i'll
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: say to make people feel a little bit better is
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: and you you're aware of, This Like trader Bob witz
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: tried to get all the best players in the, league
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: and The blazers didn't win. Anything and The eagles had
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: that super team a little while ago and they didn't win.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: Anything you, know THE.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: Nfl is a little bit different in that who's going
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: to stay? Healthy and how do you? Know and and
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: the other side of it, is If I'm cleveland and
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: they're loading up for the twenty twenty seven quarterback, draft
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: The jets have three first round. Picks The browns now
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: have a one to two and a, three and this
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: is their own, One SO i get. It but two
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: things can be. True, yeah this is a good trade
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: for The, rams but this is a really good trade
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: for The browns to Get Jared. Verse he's a gigantic
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: pain in the butt for. Teams so, look it's isn't
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: an upgrade one hundred. Percent it's an. Upgrade but if
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: The rams don't win it this, year like they're all
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: in for this, year they gave up a one to
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: two and a. Three they Have Ty simpson as their future,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: quarterback Who i'm.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Not sold, on you.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: Know they they gave up a lot to basically, say
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: we need to catch The seahawks at all. Costs, yes
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: and if this doesn't work out and they don't win
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: a championship because of, it it is going to damage
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: their future quite a.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Bit that's the. Thing it's it's it's that they're all
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: in to go Get. Seattle AND i, mean and we've
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: talked about this, before THE Nfc west is just such
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: a beast compared to any other division in, Football it's
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: not even. CLOSE i, mean you're the. Rams biggest threat Is.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Seattle seattle's biggest threat is The. Rams their second biggest
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: threat for both those teams it's the forty nine. Ers
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: and then they're all in the same damn. DIVISION i,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: mean THAT'S i think what you said is interesting BECAUSE i,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: know Like sea ok fans up here are kind of
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: losing their. Mind oh my, god what's going to? Happen
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: the thing is you just said. It it's THE. Nfl
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: guys get, Hurt guys get banged. Up Is Matthew stafford
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: going to stay healthy for an entire season again at
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: the age of what thirty? Eight, like is he gonna
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: is his back in the? Hold is he gonna be?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Fine if he? Is, listen if they stay one hundred percent,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: healthy they're gonna be a heart. Out like it's gonna
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: be hard to beat. Them AND i know even In,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: seattle the defending. Champs just if you look at The
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: rock they're. Better they just. Are their roster is. Incredible
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: yeah they are now if they're healthy all, year but
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: staying healthy in THE Nfl Check's, Notes San, francisco twenty twenty.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Five it's, hard is it?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah and, look, look When i've made the. Move would
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: the Would seahawks fans be over the moon if they
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: made this move For Miles? Garrett no? Questions and LIKE i,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: said WHEN i first heard it as breaking AND i
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: was sitting on the, AIR i, thought, Well seattle made this.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: Move just flashed through my head that maybe they. Would
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: they were kind of countering what The rams. Did BUT
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: i know how fans, think and so to, you, well
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: what's our? Move what's our? Move that's not how teams
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: think about. It they don't, say, well, god they Got
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: Miles garrett got we got to do, this or we
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: got to do. THAT i still like Where seattle. Is seattle's.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: Younger this is a last ditch, effort and it's a great,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: one don't get me, Wrong but this is The rams
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: saying we're all in, right now we're alling With, stafford
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: we're alling With. Garrett we might be Getting Aaron. Donald
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: they've still got to re Signed pook And. Theakua they're
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: going to go through the exact same thing that they,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: did because this is go look at The rams first round.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Picks they don't have. Them what they do is they
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: double them up For, stafford For Jalen, ramsey for you,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: know in this, situation For Miles. Garrett that's where they're.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: Aggressive and REALLY i can't argue with their philosophy because
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: you AND i talk about this all the. Time first
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: round picks are fifty to fifty man and that's the
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: first round and then they go down from. There so
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: everybody same thing in. Baseball every's, like oh my, god
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: we can't give up this. Guy we can't give up
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: this great. Prospect what was the kid that The seattle
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: have that they got from The mets that was supposed
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: to Be Jared kell whatever the hell's name.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Is, yeah, yeah, YEAH i think The.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: White sox defade. Him so look a lot of times
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: you want them now rather than the. LATER i. DON'T
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: i like the deal for The browns. Perspective and, look
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: If i'm A seahawk, FAN i get, it you're gonna freak,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: out but this is about a two to three year
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: window for the In whatever they do in that, window, great,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: dandy fun. Great The SEAHAWKS i think are better still
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: positioned for a long term. Run and the one THING
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: i would say too is, that, look if there's a
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: situation in at mid, SEASON i don't think they don't
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: have to counter. It, now that's not the way it.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Works but if there's a deal at mid, season much
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: like What John schneider did this year to Get, shaheed
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: The seahawks are going to be in on. It the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: rest of the league they don't have that, luxury you,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: know The seattle is part of the. Halves The rams
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: are part of the, halves And niners are part of the.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Haves there's a lot of have. Nots it's not like
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: you can sit there In seattle and Go our team
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: never does. Anything If John snyder sees an opportunity to
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: make a, move not the, counter but to make or
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: move to make The seahawks, better he'll do it.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Well and he's done it SO i mean the last
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: few years in, Order Leonard, Williams Ernest, Jones rashid shiheat
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: all trade deadline. Guys that was a pretty damn good.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Move and what he's. Done the THING i loved about
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: what he's done, too is he's got he's picked up
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: all three of those, guys and all three of those
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: guys were expire or on expiring, Contracts so teams were
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: fine moving him, right, like, well, yeah we got no.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Problem but with the plan of let's resign them all three,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: guys he. Resigned like all three guys he. Resigned so
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: like it's like there they go up about it a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: little bit different than say the forty nine or then
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: The rams do what what's going on In San? Francisco
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: like how how healthy are? They like what's the status
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: of Of kittle And bosa? Specifically, yeah that's.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: A problem Because kittle's not all the way. BACK i
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: mean he's At OTA's and it's you, KNOW i talked
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: about this still about last. WEEK i don't understand teams
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: that don't have their guys there because up there you were,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: saying you were telling me last, week like you, Know
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: jsn's out, there everyone's, here and it's raining outside and you,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: know everybody's out, there And witherspoon doesn't have to be.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: There he's looking for a.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: Contract he's, there all the guys are, there and it
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit of last, year like McCaffrey
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: was coming back and you AND i got in the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: conversation a. Lot is he?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Healthy is he? Healthy is?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: Healthy, well you, Know kyle ran him into the ground,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: again SO i guess he. Is But kittle's. Not that's
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: All kyle's like every Year kyle, goes we got to
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: get him, less carry's less, touches less, touches and then
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: he you, know runs it three hundred times and catches a.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Hundred it's, like, dude like, really But kittle's achilles is
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: not even. Close and Then bosa trains In florida a
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: lot of. Times but this was. Interesting they wanted to
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: check in on, him so he did come into. Camp
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: but SO i Think bosa is gonna be, Ready but
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: is he going to be as explosive as he normally As,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: NO i don't even Think kittle will play in the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: first number of. Games he'll be on the pup. List
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: and then the other thing that's bad about, well good for,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: you bad for the forty nine. Ers But Kel williams
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: their first round pick last, year who's kind of a.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Tweener they want him to be like A Michael, bennett
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: BUT i don't think he's that. Good but and so
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: he's playing more of an edge but an edge setter.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: Type he's not gonna be. Ready he tore his knee
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: late in the. Year so you, know it wasn't just
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: last year that they had all these, injuries And Ricky
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: pier saw their former first round pick wide receiver can
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: never stay. Healthy Trent williams is getting a lot. Older
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: they're kind of in a similar position as The, rams
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: to be honest with, you in terms of their, age
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: but they're just not as good as The rams. Are
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: SO i you, know OBVIOUSLY i think The rams right
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: now are. One seattle's right there. TOO i think there's
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: a gap between the two in the division and The.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: Niners but IF i had to, say, like, hey everybody
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: loves power, Rankings i'd probably put The niners still like
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: seven or. Eight but but in this, DIVISION i, mean
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: can you imagine you have three of probably the top
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: what seven teams in the. League but The niners are
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: just A i think a step back from where The
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: rams and The seahawks are because they've got some unknown
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: as you, said some unknown or unresolved injury, issues The.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: John lynn joining. US i, uh you're down there too In,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: Arizona SO i got, yeah what are they?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Here here's the, thing here's the wild card for the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: three teams we just talked about With, Seattle San francisco
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: and The, rams which whatever team doesn't Sweep arizona is
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: is going to be a massive danger to miss the, playoffs,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: right like you bet it out? Right, like Is Jacoby
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: brissett still thinking he's gonna get.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: Paid, yeah he's the dumbest guy on earth and he's
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: his own. Agent it's, like, okay please tell me The
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: i'm Just i'm just doing a little bit of basic
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: business one on. One tell me your. LEVERAGE i went
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: one in eleven in games last. Year tell me your. Leverage,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: well They Gardner minshew is him like they're like The
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: Spider man. Meme you're both a veteran quarterback and they
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: drafted a kid in the third round In Carson, beck
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: WHO i don't expect to be very, good but they're
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: gonna give him a shot because they're gonna think so
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: bad because they have to decide with the first pick
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: in the, draft and if we've seen The cardinals', schedule it's,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: brutal it's third, hardest but they're not gonna win any.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: Games they're they're probably gonna have the first, pick so
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: that their main determination next year is If Carson beck can,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: play and if, not then they you, know are going
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: to Take arts Or Dante more or whatever the case may.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: Be but THEY'RE i, mean they Took Jeremiah love because it's, like,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: well maybe he'll be. Exciting and they got you, know
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: they got one of The. Laflours they Got Mike, lafleur
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: who was with The. Rams they should be better, offensively
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: but it's gonna be just like last. Year teams are
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: gonna light them up for forty. Points you. Know they're
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: they're like that, meme you, know the dragon meme where there's, like,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: yeah three fierce dragons and then there's the dopey looking
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: one that's The.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Cardinals like it's.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: Awful when we reacted to it, yesterday it was, like,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: well like fans are freaking out and calling, in AND
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: i was, like why do you? Care you should be
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: happier that they like they gave up stuff for the
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: future when you could be possibly decent because you're, like
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: what you were going to compete with The rams this? Year,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: like what are you talking?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: About let's stop? It the so we our national, nightmare
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: at least in The, seattle The seattle nightmare came to an.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: End we are.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: All we are All spurs fans from now. On, buddy
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: you did you did tell us, that you did tell us.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: That Thank, god look at the reluctance in your voice
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: to at least give me any, time gave you.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Credit what are you talking. About i'm just.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: Begrudging That's that's not.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Reluctance that's not. Reluctance that's. Relief that's that's the. Relief
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: it's a heavy sigh of.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: Relief HOWEVER i can get.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: It it's a heavy sigh of. Relief it's a heavy
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: sigh of relief because we don't have to Watch sga
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: falling on the floor and h And Chet holmgren looking
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: like a like a giraffe on skates in the in
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: THE Nba finals as. Well, yeah they were.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Terrible he was.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: Terrible he's. Terrible you want to talk about bad. Contracts
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: his contract kicks in next. Year OH i.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: Know, well you, know if you're A oksey hater and
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: they know everybody is the last time they had this
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: situation because he gets paid a. Ton sga gets paid a,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Ton Jalen Williams jadu gets paid a. Ton those guys
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: are all maxed out. Guys the last time this happened
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: In Oklahoma city Was Kevin, Durant Russell, Westbrook James, harden
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: and they had to break that. Up the reality they
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: get a lot of network, money all that kind of,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: stuff but still where you play, matters and them taking
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: The sonics From seattle and going to some dumpy town In.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma there's not a.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: Lot there's not a lot of corporate sponsors and a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: lot of things like, That like they're not they're not
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: rolling in. Money so these guys have their. Window but you,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: Know wenby took that thing, away AND i don't know
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: If Oklahoma city is going to get back because they've
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: already got to. Start it's already. Started they're gonna have
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: to start chipping away at some of their players who
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: have made. Them you, know he got The Big, three
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: but they're not gonna be able to afford. Everybody so
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: everybody thought that was gonna be a. Dynesty it's, like,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: well hang on, here there's a really tall guy In
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: San antonio that's, like, uh not so, fast my, Friends.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Like we've watched this league for a long.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: Time it's.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Safe we've never seen anything like this, guy, Right like
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: like it's JUST i mean and the whole, THING i,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: LIKE i get. It every year there's AN mvp awarded
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: and people want to complain about who it is and
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: who it ISN'T i just Like sga is a great.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Player he's flopping, Aside like give him his, credit, right he's,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: good he's a great. Player he's a. Wing like there's,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: like like there's over the, years there's been a lot
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: of guys that look like. That you, know they don't
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: maybe play like that because he falls, down but you
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: know What i'm, Saying like that's a that's a. Guy
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: wemby's just like we've never seen anything like that.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: Ever. No, plus here's the thing, too he's twenty. Two
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: we all noticed he's twenty. Two he's going to fill,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: out he's going to get. Better and then what also
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: happens with smart, players and he's got to. Drive you
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: can tell he hasn't want what starts to happen with
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: these guys is you've thrown everything at. Him you, know
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: everybody threw everything At durant Or curry or any of
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: these great offensive. Players and once they've seen it a
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: number of, times they figure it out. Out and LIKE i,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: said he's really thin right, now he's gonna get, bigger,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: Bigger he's gonna get. Better this is the worst version of.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: Him and this team you're gonna. See these guys are all.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: Young they're all twenty, one twenty, two twenty three year
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: old old. Guys this is they're just. Starting these guys
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: aren't been close to contract. Extensions But wenby, himself who's
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: going to be dominant for a really long. Time you
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: better get on him. Now The knicks better beat him
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: now because if they, don't these guys are going to
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: reel off a bunch of them Because wemby's just gonna get.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Better how the hell do? You how the Hell San antonio?
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Man what a what a lucky?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: Ass?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Ten you're, Lucky, David Tim duncan And wemby like really
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: like you have three of the best bigs. Ever.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well and here's the thing too with, this and
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get to know this and you know more
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: and more getting closer to THE nba is they're changing
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: this whole, thing the lottery system for the next three.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: Years and what San antonio, did so they Get wemby,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: one and they Get Dylan harper, two and they got
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: A castle five to kind of build that. Team you
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: can't get consecutive top five picks the way that this
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: whole new sis is gonna. Work so the way San
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: antonio was, built you're not gonna be able to do that.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Anymore your teams they're trying to spread the wealth the
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: best that they, Can so you're not gonna be able
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: to get three top five, picks including the number one,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: pick number, two, pick number five pick in three consecutive
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: years to build the team like they.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Did, yeah which isn't good when you're trying to build
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: a team from scratch in a couple of. Years BUT
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: i do get that fact that this leads to a
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: little more. Parody by the, way we'll do this next.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: WEEK i. GOT i watched The Blazer Jail blazer thing On.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: NETFLIX a p, oh, dude it's so, Wrong like the
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: timelines are, split the timelines are screwed. Up trying to
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Make rashid via sympathetic figure is just. Classic Oh, god.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: They skipped over so much. Stuff they skipped over so much,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: stuff so much stuff On, kemp so much stuff On,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: Rachid like we've told these stories, before but they didn't
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: mention the fact that with all those technical, fouls they
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: put his mom and wife in the front row to
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: try to mellow them, out and she would Yell Rashi,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: like there's all these great stories that. Out the one
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: On Stadmeyer weed was totally wrong the way that they
• 1:38:02
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• 1:38:02
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• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: happened in two thousand and two BECAUSE i was already In.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Portland you were gone and, like and they made it
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: sound like it happened like in two thousand or ninety.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Nine then this whole thing where he snuck it through
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: the that was that was the off season of, three
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: like like the timelines are all screwed. UP i did.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: It i'll tell you WHAT i did enjoy. THOUGH i
• 1:38:20
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• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Time and he was he was all kinds of video.
• 1:38:24
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• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: There he Was he's hard to, miss but, yeah you
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: know he. Was he was in the background of a
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: lot of. Things but you know the other, thing, man
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: the whole thing grow me crazy because they had a
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: lot of people. Too there was a lot of different
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: stories that they completely glossed. Over but the guy who took,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: over Like bob witst got this big for him and
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: he was he was trying to defend him something what
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: would you have? Done like that's How wits it. Is
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: just got so defensive at all these. Things and it
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: was like they didn't even talk to Like Scottie pittpen
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Or Steve smith or Greg, ant like there was all
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: these guys on that team that could have, said like
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: this thing was a dumpster, fire and they Gave bob
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: Wits it like this pulpit to get on top of,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: it basically say it wasn't my. Fault it's, like, dude
• 1:39:05
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• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Organization well the thing is weird. Too we gotta go
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: the thing is. Weird it's, like so you have the
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: whole time they're, talking it's like There's. Colin Colin coward
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: never went in the locker room, ever like, ever WELL
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: i was talking to These no you, Weren't like maybe
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: he did it BEFORE i got, there but.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: MAYBE i saw, Him like the, first AND i Like colin.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: Everything but with the MINUTE i Saw, colin it was, like,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: dude he was way above. That like he was the
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: he was the sports director At channel, eight THE nbc
• 1:39:32
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• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: bothered with that kind of stuff going into a locker.
• 1:39:37
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• 1:39:49
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• 1:39:51
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  Speaker 8: Thirty, Hey, Ian seattle's sports guy here with an update
• 1:41:21
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• 1:41:23
  Speaker 8: the BEST gm in the league, fired throwing his whole
• 1:41:26
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• 1:42:05
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• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: of three and we should have won all.
• 1:42:11
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• 1:42:25
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  Speaker 1: Russell wilson text see the most polerizing yeah seat sports
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: athlete in a, while in a, while it's, yeah it's
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: up there in a. While we asked a question earlier
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: in the first hour of the show brought Up russell
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: if he's pretty much, DONE i mean going to the
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: studio show he's so we look back AND i asked
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: the question To, rott To andrews and. Others somebody, says to,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: You Russell, wilson what do you? Say this is an interesting.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: One such a complicated legacy goes from a rootable but
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: corny overachiever Super bowl champ to an absolute diva who
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: only cared about his image and developed seventeen different kinds of.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Accents that's From eric And Kitsapp. County, yeah he's got
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: him on his.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Wall don't think he has multiple personality disorder, like, no, seriously.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: No, NO i think he. IS i think he's a
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: guy that just was so concerned about, legacy, perception public,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: perception all those. THINGS i. THINK i think that the
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: WHOLE i Think hall Of fame is in his equation,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: too trying to become a big. Personality AND i the
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: only explanation why he Isn't hall Of fame worthy Is.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: Yoko oh, no she destroyed him as a. Player That's
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: ryan At. Scottsdale oh my, god you get compared To.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: Yoko oh, No, man that is a that is a tough.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: One michael. SAYS, I i for, One i'm not looking
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: forward to Hearing russell ON. Cbs and he may have
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: been a great football, player but he definitely gives the
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: ick or creep kind of weirdness to him AND i
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: do not think he's a good. Fit and, no he's
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: not A hall Of, famer especially IF Mi comrian tinues
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: to be. Denied, yeah two different, categories but, yeah two different.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Categories The hall Of. FAME a lot of people Saying
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson ring Of, Honor, Yes Russell Wilson hall Of. Fame,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: no that's from The two of six and. OTHERS i.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: AGREE i agree without one hundred. Percent, yeah the let's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: see he went down when he stopped coming in early
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: and staying. Late NOW i think he still was. There
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: its time to. Sleep, listen every team has twenty five
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: guys that are first in and first. Out someone's got
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: to be first in and last, out but every team
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: has twenty five of those. Guys, yeah in every, sport
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: in every. Sport the only Guy i've heard that wasn't
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: that guy Was Brendan, tanneth last guy, there last guy
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: on the, ice first guy, off first guy.
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  Speaker 3: Out.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: And he's us.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: Vitance let's, see mister unlimited Stole Russell wilson's legacy kind of,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: did kind of. Did, yes last three Teams russ was
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: On we're. Trash that's not all on.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Him if you're talking about his legacy. Overall, yeah and
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: even in the last couple of years The seahawks when
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: he was, here like especially the last, year they weren't
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: very good. Either, yes, yes but how much of that
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: is because of? Him how much of this fallout from
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: stuff that he?
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Did let's, see by the, WAY i got to read
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: this one just for. Giggles we'll get back to the
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: rust stuff in a. Second this is from our power
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: outage earlier in the. Day totally sounds like your building
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: owner needs to Piggyback Seattle City light AND. Ps you know,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: what that's a good. Point it is a good. Point
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: take The maritor's, Thing Marty Sea league building owner and
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: see if you can COMBINE ps And Seattle City. Light
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: if you just found energy and a piggyback power situation like,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: it we might be good Ands at that. Point we
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: won't have these little weird power sits.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Anymore if one of, them like you, know loses their,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: stuff like Maybe Luis, castillo if he's starting a game
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: and starts to falter a little, bit you bring In Bryce.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Miller he's good for the rest of the. Game twol.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: SIX i Think Russell wilson's in the same boat As
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Shawn alexander as far as what his perception is here
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: from the fans and talks of The hall Of.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: Fame oh, okay that's a that's a great COMM i
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: think that is a good Comp one won THE, mvp.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: Right but one won A Super. Bowl, Yes shawn's career
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't long enough for The hall Of. Fame but, man
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: he was the offensive AN. MVP i thought he was really.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: Good, yeah he was better at his position Than russ ever. Was, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: WELL i mean the.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Thing With russ is that the personal achievements in terms
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: of all pro that, type they weren't. There now he
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: played in there with some incredible. Quarterbacks BUT i guess
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: you could say that every year right in THE. Nfl,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: yeah let's See russ initially, cheered no. Cringe now he's
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: A hall Of. Famer wilson broke up a potential dynasty.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Defense good, quarterback not a great quarterback with a fake.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Personality his perception in this. Town the MORE i look
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: at all these six and we got as many texts
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: we had in a long. Time, today it's just not. Great.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: JOE A rod might be as close As.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: Calm.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: See the thing IS A rod's like a top, ten
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: top fifteen player in baseball.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: History, russell, well but his, YEAH A rod's tainted because
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: of the, pesah, well the way he left one it
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: but just from a in terms of top player of all,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: time the PDEs is why he's not in, Right So
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: russell is dangerously close to being A hall Of famer Danger.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: Russie that's. GOOD i like, that Oh man.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Two five threes hall Of famer more so Than Eli.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Manning you guys have this weird hate of Russ it's
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: kind of. Gross, actually it was a big reason we
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: have our First. Lombardy give him his.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: Due, YEAH i.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: DON'T i don't think there's a weird hate for. US
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: i mean you're seeing it across the text.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 10: Line.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: YEAH i mean when they, say you, GUYS i don't
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: know who he. SAW i MEAN i.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: DON'T i hated how he. Left, Yeah i've said that
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: a number of times on the. Air give you the
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: stories of how he.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: Left right Leave russell. ONE i wish him the. Best
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: that's a stupid video About Russell. WILSON i wouldn't play it.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: Again that must be one of the softiest and other.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Things it's unlimited or a. SEATTLE a seattle that was.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: Creepy there's no there's no other way to put.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: IT i like that.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Talk fact was, like it's Like lizzie Your virginian. Problem
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: we've got a really good talk, back But i'm not.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: Sure we got to check and see if we can play.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: It we have to Wait So, cliff IF i see, You,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: cliff we'll. See we'll. See, yeah we'll. See that'll. Be
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: that'll be a tomorl, problem not a today. Problem it's
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: a great. Talkback it's a future ian, problem not a present. Problem,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: uh thank, You. Denver let's, RIGHT i forgot about. THAT
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: i forgot about. That Cringe, worthy that's, right Crocoss, country that's.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: Right russell was a goober from the, start but he
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: helped bring us that first. Ring one hundred. Percent, yeah,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: yes check his. Stats he's A hall Of. Famer, no he's.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Not HE'S i went through that. Earlier he's he's about
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: as borderline as it. Gets the ONE i go back
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: to the. NUMBER i mean The hall Of fame monitor
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: The Pro Football, references which is a really good it's
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: actually pretty well. Done if You i'm gonna go, back
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: let's just go. Championships, Okay so quarterbacks with multiple championships
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: that aren't in The hall Of. Fame there's a, lot
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: and then you get down to the guys that have, won,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Well Aaron, rodgers he'll be A hall Of famer just
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: because of the.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: Number the numbers don't. Lie brett Five hall Of famer
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: numbers don't. Lie numbers don't.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: Lie LIKE i just talked about the three all time
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: leaning pastors in THE, Nfl, yeah is not close to.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: That Matthew staff is A hall Of. Famer, yes he's
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: passed for sixty four thousand. Yards russell. Passed russell's going
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: to end his career with less than fifty thousand career yards.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Passing Kurt warner is A hall Of. FAMER i think
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: The Kurt warner one is a little bit. Closer but
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: here's the thing With Kurt. Warner two TIME ap First
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Team All. Pro let me. Refer let me go back to,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: that two times first Team All. Pro in addition to,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: that he was AN mvp and he won A Super.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: Bowl the guy that MAYBE i Mean russell's never a
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: first Team All. Pro he was a ten Time Pro.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: Bowler BUT i want to, say, Honestly enters, six seven
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: or eight of those were as an. Alternate, yeah like
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: that's just no. One, yeah you guys are acting like
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: going to back to Back Super bowls as ho. Home
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: is there another choir that has ever done that for The. Seahawks,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: No and we said he's the Best seahawks. Quarterback, yeah
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: he's the Best seahaws quarter we're Talking hall Of, FAME
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: Nfl hall Of, Fame Pro Football hall Of. Fame is
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: the interesting compet would be him And Sam donald If
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: donald goes back this. Year for this, reason both of
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: their teams were defensive base teams defense, first you.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: Know AND i pose the question to you earlier who
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: was more important to their Respective Super bowl winning, Team
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: Sam donald Or Russell.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 5: Wilson.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: YEAH i don't think there was ever a game Like
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: Sam DONALD'S Nfc championship game against The rams where you
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: absolutely Needed Sam donald to win that. Game AND i,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: mean sorry you. Didn't you didn't absolutely Need Russell wilson
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: to win that. Game you know?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: What the question would be here With Russ and, AGAIN
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: i didn't want to turn Into hall Of. FAME i
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: think that's a different discussion at some. Point i'm gonna.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: Try i'm just just going back. Here first Team first
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Team All pro, Guys, Okay hall Of fame quarterbacks that
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: were Not First Team All? Pro, Wow Troy, Aikman.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: Is this?
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Right Troy aikman And John elway were never first Team All.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Pro there's no Way elway had it been, right looking,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: NOW i believe it On Troy. Aikman here's the thing
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: with those two, guys three Super bowl. Wins For, aikman
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: he was three times second Team All, pro never first. Team,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: okay then that's, right yeah. Yeah John, elway two Time
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: Super bowl, champion threw for fifty almost fifty two thousand.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Yards BUT i mean those guys are both multiple times
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Super bowl. Champions Roger staubach was a two Time Super bowl.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Champion those are the Three, Aikman, Lway, Aikman elway that
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: so there you. Go And russ was a one time
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: second team second Team All, Right softy joined us next?
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: Already then right hand is a softie's?
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 6: Wall?
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: Up is it? Up it? Is?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: Now it should always be? God, okay, no, no, no
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: what the hell she's?
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: Doing?
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Pregnant? Uh trying to take a. Photo we did this
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: whole thing yesterday so on the, SHORE i, Know but
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: SO i asked the, question ay to our, listeners some
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: guy AND i actually we Used andrews and in laws
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: as a as a good example because they're From. ARGENTINA
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: i have no idea what. Football somebody comes somebody comes
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: out and he, says, Hey Russell, Wilson, dave, like if
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: your buddy and what's your buddies In alabama's?
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: Name?
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: Fouler Ryan? Fowler Do Ryan? Fowler?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: Hi how?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Doing If Ryan foller calls up and, Says, hey what
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: you mean About Russell, wilson what's his legacy In? Seattle
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: what do you?
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 10: Say i'd say he's the greatest quarterback in franchise. History
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 10: he's also a complete. GOOBER i, mean it's like all
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 10: of us try to like have one brush that we
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 10: paint a guy, with and you you broke it down
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 10: today about who he, is and you mentioned like four
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 10: or five different traits and he's all of, that all.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 10: That it's a gray area, gouber by the, way the
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 10: greatest quarterback in franchise. History we tried to Get Pete carroll,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 10: fired And John schneider and the strength and everybody probably
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 10: has some kind of a inferiority. Complex And i've heard
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 10: that from, players by the way that played with. Him
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 10: i've told this story on the air ABOUT kJ wright
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 10: when he was when he was, HERE i think after
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 10: maybe he retired, Whatever AND i asked, HIM i solved, This,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 10: yes how many times did you go out With Russell
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 10: wilson after?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: Practice he said? Never not one? Time he, said nobody
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: did Cag nobody ever hung out with. HIM kJ told me.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: That he you, SAID i remember you, said told that,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: story AND i REMEMBER i saw him soon thereafter it
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: at the facility or someplace before he went To San.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: Francisco AND i, said, really, LIKE i heard you say,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: this because in he, said he asked him to go
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: out to, dinner, right and he never would do.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 10: It he just never felt. Comfortable or either that or
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 10: he was too. ARROGANT i don't, KNOW i mean one
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 10: of the. OTHER i, mean, look the guy was a phenomenal.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 10: Player and you, know my whole point yesterday about The
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 10: hall Of fame is, that first of, ALL i don't
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 10: know what the hell The hall Of fame is going
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 10: to do With Russell.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: WILSON i don't trust The hall Of.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 10: Fame it's hard to hell any kind of Minimum seattle
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 10: should on what they're going to, do because they've already
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 10: screwed Over Mike holmgrin by the, way, Right so that's number,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 10: one and then number. Two if you thought he was
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 10: A hall Of famer when he Left, seattle then, Great
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 10: but if you did not think he was A hall
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 10: Of famer when he Left, seattle he didn't help. Him
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 10: he's not A hall Of famer, now. Dude HIS qbr
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 10: was under thirty nine and the four years since he
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 10: Left seattle he was seventeen and twenty. Seven as a starting,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 10: quarterback he's been.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Terrible, well you just historically you look at, it the
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: guys that have n't been a first Team All, pro,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: right that are in The hall Of fame in his, position,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: right they've won Multiple Super.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 10: Bowl or how about guys that never were first Team
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 10: All pro and never got AN mvp but not one
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 10: time vote in his.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: Career the votes all heart thing because he used to be, different,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: right where like you could only vote one, guy but
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: he never received one in his career and he should
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: have a couple of times, Probably BUT i.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: Don't, know.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 10: MAN i, mean, LOOK I i celebrated him for what
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 10: he did. HERE i think time heals all, wound. Celebrated
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 10: you were right on the money about easily and what
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 10: went on with. Him you, know his kidneys were. Destroyed
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 10: he blamed The seahawks for. That suit, him suit him
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 10: and then got his number, retired, right so they they.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 10: Do and you know, What Pete carroll also does.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: A good job of.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 10: THAT i think, yes letting bygones be. BYGONES i MEAN
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 10: i think it Was god whose wedding was? It where
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 10: he And russell were both? There like last off season
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 10: or two years, Ago Tyler, Lockett Tyler lockett At lockett's. Wedding,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 10: yeah and this is a guy that apparently tried to
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 10: get him fired and he's hanging out with him like
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 10: it's all Good.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Tyler lockett's And kuber. Too, yeah he, is but he
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: never tried to get the coach.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 10: Fall it's actually one OF i Think pete's biggest traits
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 10: by the way of his ability to forgive and.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: Forget i'm not sure IF i could do. THAT i
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: think he's the. ORGUE i think it might come From
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: schneider as, well because like Like schneider and those And
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: pete had to sign off on some of those guys
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: over the last. Year right coming back to practice being
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: on the. FIELD i, mean it's not Like sherman left with,
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: great great. Feelings, Well andrews asked a great question on
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: the air. Today you don't hear it very, often so what? Happens,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: yeah let me let it.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: Down what was?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 10: It, well he, said who's who's more responsible for their team's.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 10: Championship Russell wilson Or Sam. Darnold that sounds like a
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 10: shit both of, us all of us assumed defense number. One, yes,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 10: okay so those, teams so toss that. Out but which
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 10: quarterback had a bigger impact on those? Teams russell twenty
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 10: thirteen Or donald twenty twenty.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: Six it's a great. Question how long have you been
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: working here for now? Man how many? Years five? Years
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: and it finally. Happened he, did, finally finally he actually
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: had two. Today good work he, had he had won
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: The Joe shean question that it was what was it?
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: Concessions was would there be anything that the player or
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: the owners would concede on that the players would have
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: to concede for the and there'd be a salary caps
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: like when you're, negotiating you have to get something to get, something?
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah she, Answer, yeah he kind of. Did we've
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: talked about that on our.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 10: Show that if the owner, said, okay how about instead
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 10: of six years for, arbitration how about it's.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: Three yeah or four yeah or? WHATEVER i think that works.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: Better no free agency after three you got something like? That, well,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: Okay andrew so and has blown his good question. Quota,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: yeah for the entire year. Tenures check back In? January how?
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Many how many Is jackson provided you?
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Lately every? Day every every? Day are you kidding? Me
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: he's the.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 10: Brain he might look like a, cranky, useless hairy, sob
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 10: but he really is. Significant he's the brain behind this.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 10: Hole the impact Of jackson felt has felt behind closed.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 10: Doors and we Had Furious felts calling in today on
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 10: the on the voice. Texture, yes he called it again,
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 10: today which we.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: Loved.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 10: Well today's the thirtieth anniversary Of game seven Against. Utah,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 10: Yes Kevin collaboro is gonna hop on the air.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Today that's. Awesome Kevin.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 10: COLLABORO i Think i'm pretty sure we can ask him
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 10: on the air when he called that.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: GAME i think he was thirteen younger years younger THAN i.
• 1:59:02
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• 1:59:05
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• 1:59:07
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• 1:59:08
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• 1:59:12
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• 1:59:17
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• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: So you only have a two hour. Show, yeah, yeah
• 1:59:22
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• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: forget it's been a Long. Yeah really.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 10: Okay for the mild mannered and marginally Objectionably, inverness this
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 10: is paddle day saying so long, everyone