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The Kenny Report | 16 February · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me for another week here on the
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Speaker 2: Kenny Report. The Coalition finally setting itself to take on
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Speaker 2: labor over immigration and big government.
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Speaker 1: Nationals leader David littl Proud will join me.
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Speaker 2: I'll show you how weak Anthony Albanezi is when it
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Speaker 2: comes to standing up to hateful protests, and I'll show
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Speaker 2: you the type of divisive people that he's playing to.
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Speaker 2: The green energy sector is boasting about lower wholesale electricity prices.
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Speaker 2: We'll look at why that isn't helping consumers and probably
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Speaker 2: never will. Sophie Rsworth on reform readying itself for power
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Speaker 2: in the UK, and Gemmytonini and Caroline Russo joined me
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Speaker 2: to talk about the anti women meme that's run against
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Speaker 2: the Coalition.
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Speaker 1: Let's get cracking now to you and me. The big
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Speaker 1: news on.
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Speaker 2: Friday was that the Liberal Party changed leaders, with Angus
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Speaker 2: Taylor replacing Susan Lee as the official opposition leader. But
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Speaker 2: the ABC and many others couldn't see beyond the prism
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Speaker 2: of sex.
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Speaker 1: They're obsessed with sex, well with gender.
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Speaker 2: At least all of the genders have a listened to
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Speaker 2: this on the ABC's flagship National Current Affairs programming this morning.
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Speaker 3: It took more than eighty years for the Liberal Party
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Speaker 3: to elect a federal female leader and just nine months
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Speaker 3: to remove it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so puerile, isn't it. And it's
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Speaker 1: also political bias.
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Speaker 2: Clearly they're trying to play to the leftist meme, the
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Speaker 2: leftist attack against the Coalition as being anti women. Labor
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Speaker 2: has run that line relentlessly for years, even through lies
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Speaker 2: told about the alleged but invented cover up of the
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Speaker 2: Britney Higgins rape allegations. To the left, the facts have
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Speaker 2: never been as important as the do you think the
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Speaker 2: ABC bothered to point out that it took the Labor
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Speaker 2: Party even longer to choose a female leader. Labor took
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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten years to elect a woman leader,
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Speaker 2: and guess what, they tore her down too.
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Speaker 4: I will have time in the coming weeks to be
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Speaker 4: back home in my electorate and to say hello and
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Speaker 4: goodbye to the community that I've had the absolute privilege
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Speaker 4: of representing in this Parliament since nineteen ninety eight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hello Julia and goodbye Julia.
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Speaker 2: And of course the current Prime Minister was part of
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Speaker 2: the lynch mob that toppled Julia Gillard, but Labour still
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Speaker 2: runs with its silly and sexist memes.
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Speaker 4: Did Susan Lay lose the Liberal leadership because she's a woman.
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Speaker 5: When a man takes on a leadership role, authority is
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Speaker 5: immediately gifted to him.
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Speaker 6: But when a woman takes on a leadership role, everything's
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Speaker 6: a bit different.
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Speaker 5: They have to earn authority and earn it again and
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Speaker 5: again and again.
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Speaker 7: And one of the things I've really noticed with Susan
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Speaker 7: Lay was it so many of her male colleagues they
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Speaker 7: just never actually accepted that she was their boss.
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Speaker 2: O'Neil doesn't mention, of course, that her boss is a
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Speaker 2: bloke and his deputy is a bloke too. Yeah, while
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Speaker 2: the Liberals have a female deputy and Senator Jane Hume,
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Speaker 2: Labor has a blokey, all male leadership team with alboin males.
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Speaker 2: But they attacked the Liberals for having a male leader
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Speaker 2: even with a female deputy. If the Left didn't have
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Speaker 2: double standards that have no standards at all, would they
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Speaker 2: And of course, the political party that is taking a
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Speaker 2: quarter or more of polling support away from the major
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Speaker 2: parties and is described as the devil incarnate by Labor
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Speaker 2: is one nation founded and headed by a woman. But
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson is not Labour's kind of woman. Of course,
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Speaker 2: that don't really support strong women, certainly not of their
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Speaker 2: conservative Labour really only supports woke women, women of the left,
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Speaker 2: but even then only up to a point. I mean,
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't want Tanya Plibask or Claire O'Neill to lead them,
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Speaker 2: would they?
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Speaker 1: Would they?
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Speaker 2: One of the key policy areas where Angus Taylor and
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Speaker 2: the Opposition will want to make an impact is on immigration.
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Speaker 2: It plays into economics and the housing and cost of
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Speaker 2: living crises, and it also plays into national security. I
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Speaker 2: highlighted on this program last week how the Opposition has
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Speaker 2: been sitting on an unreleased immigration policy under Susan Lee,
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Speaker 2: an extraordinary decision given this has been one of the
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Speaker 2: hot button issues where one nation has been luring support away.
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Speaker 1: From the coalition.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, key elements of that policy have now been linked
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Speaker 2: to Sky News in Canberra.
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Speaker 1: It includes a reduction in the overall number.
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Speaker 2: Of migrants, tougher character tests for would be migrants, and
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Speaker 2: even a Trump like ban on migrants from listed terrorism hotspots.
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Speaker 1: You can see here all.
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Speaker 2: The nations from which immigration would be banned under this plan.
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Speaker 1: This is a telling idea, especially given Labor has issued.
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Speaker 2: Three thousand visas for people from the terrorist bad lands
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Speaker 2: of Gaza, visas that would not be granted under this plan.
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Speaker 2: If this had been released a month ago under lead,
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Speaker 2: debate would have changed overnight. Now we'll have to wait
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Speaker 2: and see who gets the immigration portfolio under Taylor and
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Speaker 2: how much of this policy will be kept or expanded upon.
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Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that immigration will be a strong
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Speaker 2: focus under Taylor record.
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Speaker 8: Immigration has been adding pressures to housing, infrastructure, to services.
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Speaker 8: Our borders have been open to people who hate our
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Speaker 8: way of life, people who don't want to change for Australia,
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Speaker 8: but who want Australia to change for them. Under my leadership,
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Speaker 8: the Liberal Party is resolute and resolved on getting immigration right,
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Speaker 8: resolute in lowering immigration levels, resolved to put Australian that
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Speaker 8: is at the center of our immigration policy. And that's
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Speaker 8: why I say again, if someone doesn't subscribe to our
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Speaker 8: core beliefs, the door must be shut.
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Speaker 2: This is an absolutely crucial area of policy differentiation.
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Speaker 1: I can hear the.
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Speaker 2: Public cheering already for this debate now the other big
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Speaker 2: focus will be the economy, the budget and the size
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Speaker 2: of government.
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Speaker 8: Since the election, there's been a fifty four billion dollar
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Speaker 8: blowout in the medium term budget. Bottom line, labor has
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Speaker 8: a dangerous addiction to spending other people's money. After all
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Speaker 8: this taxation, all this regulation and all this spending. Here's
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Speaker 8: the truth. Bigger government hasn't meant better government. Big government
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Speaker 8: hasn't meant a better Australia, and bigger government hasn't meant
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Speaker 8: Australians are better off. And that's why I said on Friday,
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Speaker 8: the bigger government isn't the solution to Australia's problems.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good to hear. So this is getting
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Speaker 2: back to core Liberal party values. Confronting the highest spending
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Speaker 2: and highest taxing government in our history, the economic debate
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Speaker 2: promises endless opportunities for Taylor if he's sharp enough to
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Speaker 2: take them. If you ever wanted to crystallize the overall
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Speaker 2: weakness of Anthony Alberanezi and see his political cynicism in
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Speaker 2: stark relief, then it was there for all to see
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Speaker 2: on the weekend. This bloke is the opposite of a
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Speaker 2: conviction politician. There is no moral clarity no standing up
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Speaker 2: on national values or for the national interest, just a
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Speaker 2: spineless effort to go with the green left to zeitgeist.
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Speaker 2: And like the lifelong socialist left activist that he is,
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Speaker 2: Albo has a sharp political nose, not for national leadership,
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Speaker 2: but for seeking votes where.
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Speaker 1: He needs the most.
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Speaker 2: In this case, he revealed himself through his reaction to
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Speaker 2: complaints about the conduct of New South Wales police last
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Speaker 2: week when they moved on protesters at that violent Sidney
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Speaker 2: rally targeting the visit by Israel's President Isaac Herzog. In particular,
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Speaker 2: police were criticized for forcibly moving Muslim protesters who had
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Speaker 2: decided to begin their prayers in the middle of the
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Speaker 2: protest Mayhem. Most people can see what's going on here
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Speaker 2: that probably agree with my view that the protesters were
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Speaker 2: having a lend of the situation. I mean, they were
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Speaker 2: free to pray anywhere they liked, but chose to do
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Speaker 2: so at a protest when police were trying to disperse
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Speaker 2: the crowd. Anyway, you've probably heard about the complaints all
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Speaker 2: this generated, you know the outrage it was designed to create,
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Speaker 2: and our own Prime Minister no less joined in criticizing
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Speaker 2: not the protesters but instead saying the police had questions
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Speaker 2: to answer.
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Speaker 9: I am concerned. I'm concerned that the great deal of
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Speaker 9: hurt which the Muslim community are feeling about the disruption
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Speaker 9: of prayers. I understand that, and I think that is
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Speaker 9: something that needs a full explana. I know that that
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Speaker 9: has caused a great deal of distress. I want to
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Speaker 9: see an explanation. I'm very empathetic about the hurt that's
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Speaker 9: being felt by the Muslim community of prayers being disrupted with.
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Speaker 2: You come in, spinner now, I want to contrast the
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Speaker 2: PM's reaction to two other important political responses, and I'll
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Speaker 2: show you one of the Muslim activists whose narrative Albo's
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Speaker 2: response plays into. First the contrasts. You heard the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister demanding explanations about the police actions, But just weeks ago,
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Speaker 2: this Prime Minister was rejecting a Royal commission into the
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Speaker 2: alleged Islamist terrorist massacre of fifteen people at a Hunneker
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Speaker 2: event at Bondai.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Remember he actually opposed a royal commission.
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Speaker 10: The idea that we would have multiple royal commissions as
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Speaker 10: well as a review running at the same time is
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Speaker 10: going to simply delay action.
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Speaker 2: He later changed his mind, of course, after relentless pressure,
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Speaker 2: but he rejected a royal commission.
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Speaker 1: Yet now he's demanding all the answers from the New
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Speaker 1: South Wales police.
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Speaker 2: Now he wants an inquiry into police behavior because they
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Speaker 2: dared to move Muslim protesters who decided to pray. The
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Speaker 2: other contrast I want to draw is with another labor politician,
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Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Chris Mins. This is a political
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Speaker 2: leader who has conviction and stands by the rule of
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Speaker 2: law and the public good rather than grievances and protesters.
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Speaker 3: There is no suggestion, under any circumstances that police would
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Speaker 3: have wanted to cause offense to the people praying or
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Speaker 3: get in the way of people lawfully exercising their religion.
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Speaker 3: Text is important here, and the circumstances facing New South
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Speaker 3: Wales police was incredibly difficult.
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Speaker 1: It was in effect in the middle of a riot
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Speaker 1: chalk and cheese.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the strong one is only running a state. The
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Speaker 2: weak one is running this country. This sort of Muslim
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Speaker 2: grievance and victimhood is actually central in the narrative of
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Speaker 2: Islamist extremism, so nobody should needlessly encourage it. I mean
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Speaker 2: the idea that after the killing of innocence at Bondai,
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Speaker 2: more than two years of vicious and sometimes violent anti
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Speaker 2: semitism in this country, and an ongoing situation that demands
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Speaker 2: armed guards at Jewish schools and synagogues and traffic barriers
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Speaker 2: installed in recent weeks outside those places as well well.
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Speaker 1: The idea that after.
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Speaker 2: All this, it is the nation's million strong Muslim population
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Speaker 2: that are the victims frankly insulting. So let me show
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Speaker 2: you how this sort of response from Alberanesi plays into
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Speaker 2: the victimhood narrative of one prominent Muslim voice here is
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Speaker 2: Shaikh Ibrahim de Doune, preaching recently in Sydney.
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Speaker 11: This government in Australia has invited this criminal and has
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Speaker 11: laid out the red carpets for this person. We will
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Speaker 11: continue to pressure the government and if they do not
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Speaker 11: rescind this invitation then we will be as one body.
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Speaker 6: Protesting such a visit in a country like ours where
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Speaker 6: we are struggling with quote unquote social cohesion.
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Speaker 1: Anthony Alberzi found that.
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Speaker 6: Within his reemit to increase social cohesion, ironically and sarcastically
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Speaker 6: by bringing.
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Speaker 1: This war criminal into Australia.
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Speaker 6: And so you and I we have a moral duty
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Speaker 6: to protest this war criminal entering our.
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Speaker 2: Country, urging protests, telling lies that brand Hertzog as a
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Speaker 2: war criminal, yet daring to raise the idea of social
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Speaker 2: cohesion to Doune was at last week's Sydney town hall
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Speaker 2: protests too, and here's what he had to say afterwards,
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Speaker 2: some quick reflections.
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Speaker 12: Just got home from the protest today. What we've seen
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Speaker 12: is unprecedented in our city. We have a war criminal
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Speaker 12: that's now touched down in Sydney and the red carpa
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Speaker 12: has been laid out to him. Not only has this
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Speaker 12: war criminal made it into Sydney, but he's also brought
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Speaker 12: the Israeli style police brutality into New South Wales police
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Speaker 12: and into Sydney specifically.
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Speaker 2: Again with the slurs against the police, not just police brutality,
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Speaker 2: but ridiculous attempts to liken it to Israeli style policing,
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Speaker 2: as if that's some kind of slur.
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Speaker 1: I guess.
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Speaker 2: Listen to his take on the protesters who decided to
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Speaker 2: start their prayers.
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Speaker 12: We also saw some horrifying images of New South Wales
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Speaker 12: police dragging our Muslim brothers who were preing. Now, this
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Speaker 12: Israeli style policing Israeli style police brutality imported into our city.
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Speaker 12: This is not social cohesion.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Predictably, Dedune attacks the police over this episode, so
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Speaker 2: he will be well pleased that none other than the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister of this nation has also run with this
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Speaker 2: narrative too, demanding a police explanation, and again to Dune
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Speaker 2: spoke about social cohesion. Let me remind you about how
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Speaker 2: much this preacher cares for social cohesion. Remember what he
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Speaker 2: said on a Sydney street the day after nearly fifteen
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Speaker 2: hundred Israeli men, women and children were killed, tortured, defiled,
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Speaker 2: or kidnapped by Hummus and its guards and supporters on
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Speaker 2: October seventh, twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 1: I'm smiling and I'm happy.
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Speaker 13: I'm in Naydan. It's a day of courage.
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Speaker 2: No matter how many times I see that, it sickens
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Speaker 2: me to the core. It shows just how difficult it
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Speaker 2: will be to rebuild social.
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Speaker 1: Cohesion in this country.
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Speaker 2: And it worries me greatly that this preacher can draw
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Speaker 2: comfort from Anthony Albanese's comments casting doubts over the police
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Speaker 2: rather than the protesters. It's a great worry that our
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Speaker 2: prime ministers take on this protest will give more comfort
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Speaker 2: to someone like to Doom than they will to the
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Speaker 2: majority of mainstream Australians.
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Speaker 1: Let's go now to the National's.
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Speaker 2: Leader, David little Proud, who joins us in Dowby, Queensland.
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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, David. Did you get the
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Speaker 1: opposition leader you wanted? Oh?
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Speaker 14: Look, that's the matter for the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 7: But what I've got to say is I've been very
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Speaker 7: pleased with the way that Angus Taylor's hit the ground running.
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Speaker 14: He's got back to coalition values.
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Speaker 7: He's articulated them very clearly about returning our country to
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Speaker 7: the standard of living that we've been accustomed to, but
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Speaker 7: protecting our way alife. And I think that goes to
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Speaker 7: not just the economic argument, but it goes to the
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Speaker 7: fact that under Anthony Albanezi, we've seen immigration too high
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Speaker 7: and our standard's too low, and this is an opportunity
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Speaker 7: to get back to those core values, to articulate that
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Speaker 7: we can fix these economic problems and social problems with
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Speaker 7: just some good old common sense. And I've known Angus
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Speaker 7: for a farewell now and I think he'll draw on
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Speaker 7: his smarts but his collective wisdom. But more importantly, his
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Speaker 7: values to get back to what the Coalition believes in.
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Speaker 7: So I've got to say I'm out of my elector
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Speaker 7: I'm actually in Chinchilla, my hometown. I just left Holby
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Speaker 7: got to say there's renewed optimism that the Coalition is
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Speaker 7: really clear about what we believe in and how we're
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Speaker 7: going to change this country. After four years of Anthony Albanezi.
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Speaker 2: I found it staggering on this program last week to
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Speaker 2: speak to the then shadow Immigration Minister, Paul's Scar and
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Speaker 2: find out that there was an immigration was a coalition
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Speaker 2: immigration policy that was ready to go, but he'd been
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Speaker 2: sitting on it. Did that policy go through shadow cabinet?
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Speaker 2: Were you aware of that as well as the other
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Speaker 2: minute the shadow ministers?
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Speaker 14: Now there's no final decision on it.
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Speaker 7: That'd been input into that policy, but it hadn't formally
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Speaker 7: been ticked off from my understanding, and so.
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Speaker 14: Those details weren't finalized.
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Speaker 7: But we were getting back to making sure that we
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Speaker 7: had an immigration policy that worked for this country. I mean,
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Speaker 7: we've poured in one point three million people in this country.
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Speaker 7: That's a city the size of Adelaide, when we've got
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Speaker 7: social disconnection right across our country. But also we've got
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Speaker 7: a housing problem. Just understanding you are fueling demand, pushing
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Speaker 7: up prices, taking hope away from young people by bringing
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Speaker 7: those sort of numbers in without even thinking about the
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Speaker 7: skills in which we might need.
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Speaker 14: Last we'll do and now I think it's so.
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Speaker 2: A lot of this policy has been leaked now through
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Speaker 2: Sky News and other media, and it includes the banning
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Speaker 2: of immigration from certain countries that are essentially run by
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Speaker 2: terrorist groups, and.
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Speaker 1: It lists the whole range of them.
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Speaker 2: Of course, it would include Gaza and the Palestinian territories,
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Speaker 2: Somalia and other countries. This is a very Trumpian policy,
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Speaker 2: isn't it. It's a very sensible one, I should add
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Speaker 2: in my view, because the last thing we we want
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Speaker 2: to do is import extremism into this country. But it
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Speaker 2: looks to have been mimicked from what Donald Trump has
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Speaker 2: done in the US.
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Speaker 7: Well, we're giving the greatest gift we can give any
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Speaker 7: person on this planet, a ticket to Australia. And we
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Speaker 7: don't want to import people in this country that don't
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Speaker 7: support our way of life and believe in it.
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Speaker 14: And so what we've got to do is understand the
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Speaker 14: real threats, the real threats that exist and you just.
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Speaker 7: Beautifully articulated one of the nation's most heinous problems at
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Speaker 7: the moment.
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Speaker 14: If I can put an.
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Speaker 7: Oxymoron out there in terms of the hate that is
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Speaker 7: on the streets of our cities at the moment, around
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Speaker 7: bringing the hate of the Middle East to this country
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Speaker 7: and allowing it to be permeated by they're not preachers
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Speaker 7: of religion. This individual, he's a preacher of hate and
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Speaker 7: he wants to bring discohesion to our society, and that's
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Speaker 7: what he's trying to preach.
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Speaker 14: So what we've got to do is make sure that
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Speaker 14: we set the values.
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Speaker 7: We set the standard, we're giving the greatest gift, and
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Speaker 7: if you can't live up to that, you can go
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Speaker 7: and you're not welcome here.
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Speaker 2: And these standards, we've got to get back to it. No,
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Speaker 2: are you concerned as I am, that someone like Shaikh
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Speaker 2: Ibrahim Dadoun, who prays on this Muslim grievance and Muslim
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Speaker 2: victimhood and was at that protest on Monday, would draw
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Speaker 2: succor and comfort from our own prime minister portraying those
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Speaker 2: Muslim protesters as the victims in this episode.
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Speaker 14: I certainly am.
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Speaker 7: But what I'm also concerned about Chris is where are
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Speaker 7: the other imams calling him out? This is a moment
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Speaker 7: for them to stand up and to actually call him
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Speaker 7: out and to actually make it very clear to those
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Speaker 7: of the Islamic faith in this country that's not acceptable.
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Speaker 7: And this is their opportunity to stand with the rest
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Speaker 7: of the Australian society that has welcomed many people of
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Speaker 7: the Islamic faith in this country that should come here
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Speaker 7: with the values and principles that we expect them to
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Speaker 7: and if they haven't, then they should also. It's not
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Speaker 7: just about governments calling out it's about each other calling
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Speaker 7: out those but the Prime Minister to sit there and
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Speaker 7: to condemn the New South Wales police. Now, if you
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Speaker 7: go to pray, Chris, you looking for a quiet place
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Speaker 7: of reflection. You don't turn up to the middle of
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Speaker 7: a protest where effectively it was turning into a riot
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Speaker 7: and think that you can genuinely sit there and go
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Speaker 7: into prayer in the middle of all that hostility. I mean,
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Speaker 7: we're not mugs. These people are treating us as mugs
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Speaker 7: and it's time now for the Islamic faith to call
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Speaker 7: these preachers out, to call these individuals out that they're
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Speaker 7: not living up to Australian standards and that we expect
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Speaker 7: better by them and of any faith to make sure
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Speaker 7: that they respect the institutions, respect our police and respect
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Speaker 7: our way of life.
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Speaker 14: That's what Australias are sick and tide of. They get.
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Speaker 7: There's people that have different views in this country on
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Speaker 7: what's happening in the Middle East, but leave it there.
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Speaker 14: We've had a gutful of it. We want to get
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Speaker 14: on with our lives.
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Speaker 7: We want to make sure that this country gets on
23:03
Speaker 7: with rebuilding itself socially and economically. And this is where
23:07
Speaker 7: you need leadership from the Prime Minister, all the way
23:09
Speaker 7: through our preachers, all the way through each one of.
23:12
Speaker 14: Us, and calling them out when they do the wrong thing.
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Speaker 2: David Little Proud, thanks so much for joining us. David
23:17
Speaker 2: Little Proud there from mer Chinchilla in Queensland and his electorate.
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Speaker 2: I hold to return now to Labour's green dream. It's
23:24
Speaker 2: so called renewable energy transition. There's plenty of bs and
23:28
Speaker 2: excitement from some sections of the media lately about falling
23:32
Speaker 2: wholesale electricity prices. According to the Energy Market Operator, an
23:37
Speaker 2: abundance of solar and wind power sent wholesale electricity prices
23:41
Speaker 2: plunging in the last three months of twenty twenty five.
23:44
Speaker 2: The key word, of course, is wholesale, not the price
23:48
Speaker 2: you're slugged on your bill. Now New Scientist magazine has
23:51
Speaker 2: joined this bandwagon. This state's power prices are plummeting as
23:56
Speaker 2: it nears one hundred percent renewables. South Australia is proving
24:00
Speaker 2: to the world that relying largely on wind and solar
24:03
Speaker 2: energy with battery backup is incredibly cheap, with electricity prices
24:08
Speaker 2: tumbling by thirty percent in a year and sometimes going negative.
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Speaker 2: Now if you believe that spin, you'll believe anything, because
24:16
Speaker 2: those are wholesale prices that have fallen, not the retail
24:20
Speaker 2: prices that we all pay. And South Australia still has
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Speaker 2: the nation's highest power prices. Angus Taylor has hit the
24:29
Speaker 2: ground running on this issue, taking up the fight to
24:31
Speaker 2: Labor on energy Today.
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Speaker 8: Have a look, everything is costing more because Australians, in homes,
24:37
Speaker 8: in businesses, factories, energy has become more expensive. Higher energy
24:44
Speaker 8: prices spread right across the economy. Driven by their net
24:49
Speaker 8: zero ideology, Labor has turned its back on cheap and
24:53
Speaker 8: reliable energy. Albinizi and Bowen would gladly spend trillions of
24:59
Speaker 8: taxpayers over decades to try to reach at zero. Labor
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Speaker 8: is driven by a moral duty to reduce some emissions
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Speaker 8: that will reduce our living standards. In contrast, my moral
25:14
Speaker 8: duty is to restore our standard of living by restoring
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Speaker 8: cheap and reliable energy.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Aiden Morrison, who's the Energy program director
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Speaker 2: at the Center for Independent Studies.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again.
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Speaker 2: Aiden, tell us about these plummeting a wholesale electricity prices
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Speaker 2: in South Australia and why retail prices still don't go
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Speaker 2: down and South Australian still have the highest prices in
25:38
Speaker 2: the country.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 16: Well, wholesale prices are actually a you know, they're a
25:42
Speaker 16: wholesale market, and they're wildly volatile, right So, and they're
25:45
Speaker 16: wildly volatile at every time scale five minutes to five minutes.
25:49
Speaker 15: They can swing by thousands of thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: Quarter to quarter.
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Speaker 16: They can also swing around a whole enormous amount as well.
25:55
Speaker 16: And so what happened last quarter. It was a good
25:57
Speaker 16: quarter for coal, first of all, a lot of the
25:59
Speaker 16: maintenance off, very good quarter for wind, and we've got
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Speaker 16: a pretty low quarter in terms of the volatility in
26:03
Speaker 16: the wholesale market.
26:04
Speaker 15: But unfortunately wholesale retail.
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Speaker 16: Prices include the networks and we need to build all
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Speaker 16: these transmission lines. That's not coming down, in fact, it's
26:12
Speaker 16: about to ramp up. South Australia is still the very
26:14
Speaker 16: leader of that state of kind of needing to have
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Speaker 16: high network costs.
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Speaker 1: So this is the point, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: We all know of course, Brian Freddie can see when
26:20
Speaker 2: you've got a windmill or a solar farm, when it's
26:23
Speaker 2: generating power, it's generating at it at a low cost,
26:26
Speaker 2: a low wholesale cost, but are you have to transmit it?
26:29
Speaker 2: But crucially you have to be able to store it
26:31
Speaker 2: batteries and the like, which is very expensive. And thirdly,
26:34
Speaker 2: of course you've got to have a backup, whether it's
26:36
Speaker 2: gas or coal or something else to back it up.
26:38
Speaker 2: So the cost that ends up with the consumer doesn't
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Speaker 2: bear any real director of relevance, does it to the
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Speaker 2: wholesale price?
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Speaker 16: That's right, It's almost as though it's just a totally
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Speaker 16: different products.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 16: So if you want to consume feast and famine energy
26:50
Speaker 16: and only be able to do things when the weather
26:52
Speaker 16: is right for you.
26:53
Speaker 15: That's a different product.
26:54
Speaker 16: If you want to be able to consume on demand energy,
26:56
Speaker 16: which is there when you want to do something, then
26:58
Speaker 16: you have to pay for all these other parts of
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Speaker 16: the system, including backup gas generation, including backup coal, all
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Speaker 16: the transmission and storage, and that turns out to be
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Speaker 16: still very expensive.
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Speaker 2: Well, South Australia is my old home state. I lived
27:09
Speaker 2: there until fifteen or sixteen years ago. I was still
27:12
Speaker 2: bury for the local footy team absolutely and they're very
27:14
Speaker 2: proud of being nearly one hundred percent renewable. They have
27:18
Speaker 2: two big interconnectors I think maybe three big interconnectors now
27:21
Speaker 2: into Victoria and New South Wales.
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Speaker 14: Could they survive without those?
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Speaker 16: Look, I think they would have a very hard time
27:28
Speaker 16: surviving the long term without those.
27:29
Speaker 15: They're trying to improve.
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Speaker 16: That situation as much as they can, but at the
27:33
Speaker 16: moment prices would certainly be massively higher if they wanted
27:35
Speaker 16: to have the same level of reliability whilst cutting those
27:38
Speaker 16: into connectors.
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Speaker 2: And in the end, when the wind's not blowing, didn't
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Speaker 2: they bring in coal fired POWERstation from Victoria?
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Speaker 16: Yes, they do bring in Colfo POWERstation Victoria. Sometimes even
27:45
Speaker 16: when the wind is blowing as well too.
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Speaker 1: It's bizarre.
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Speaker 2: Let me just show you something that the Energy Minister,
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen said about wholesale prices.
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Speaker 1: The other week.
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Speaker 17: We saw wholesale energy prices tumble by huge amounts. Now
28:00
Speaker 17: more work are to make sure that those wholesale prices
28:02
Speaker 17: flow through.
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Speaker 1: To consumers this year and beyond.
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Speaker 17: And that's why things like solar Sharer and our cheaper
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Speaker 17: home batteries and our other reform stenergy pricing are so
28:11
Speaker 17: important to ensure that consumers get a fair deal out.
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Speaker 1: Of this progress.
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Speaker 2: Now, at least he's honest enough to say that those
28:17
Speaker 2: wholesale prices aren't coming through and they need to do
28:19
Speaker 2: a lot more to get prices down. But what he
28:23
Speaker 2: calls reforms like these battery programs, this is spending hundreds,
28:28
Speaker 2: well of millions, billions of dollars more of taxpayers money
28:32
Speaker 2: and private expenditure to try and make sure we can
28:35
Speaker 2: get through this.
28:36
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right.
28:37
Speaker 16: So the cheaper home battery scheme that you mentioned there,
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Speaker 16: they first estimated that would be two point three billion
28:42
Speaker 16: dollars after less than six months, it turns out if
28:44
Speaker 16: you look at their revision that it was blown out
28:46
Speaker 16: to projected to about fourteen billion dollars, all right, So
28:49
Speaker 16: they revised that back down by putting a few clamps
28:52
Speaker 16: on later to about seven billion dollars.
28:54
Speaker 15: But the batteries are three or four times that. So
28:56
Speaker 15: they are rushing.
28:57
Speaker 16: Tens of billions of dollars of expenditure rapidly in the
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Speaker 16: economy at a time when they're trying to fight inflation.
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Speaker 15: So this is all pulling the.
29:04
Speaker 16: Wrong levers the wrong direction if they're trying to actually
29:07
Speaker 16: help the economy.
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Speaker 2: Yah, it's all smoke and mirrors, right, because you have
29:09
Speaker 2: to have for a fair bit of money to get
29:11
Speaker 2: the home battery anyway, you struggling working families can't afford
29:15
Speaker 2: to do it.
29:15
Speaker 1: The government chips in a bit that.
29:17
Speaker 2: Helps out, so cost taxpayers, cost the homeowners.
29:21
Speaker 1: It'll take them years to see a return on that.
29:23
Speaker 1: And this is all to try and convince us that
29:25
Speaker 1: the transition is working.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, So what they've done is really the worst thing
29:29
Speaker 16: because they've locked in essentially a big subsidy to those
29:31
Speaker 16: who are most able, those people that can still dish
29:33
Speaker 16: out ten or twenty or thirty thousand dollars for a
29:35
Speaker 16: big solar and battery system and get an extra fifteen
29:39
Speaker 16: to twenty grand top up from the government. The people
29:41
Speaker 16: can afford that have been given assistance, But it kicks
29:44
Speaker 16: the can down the road because it actually actually shifts
29:46
Speaker 16: a lot more network costs onto the remaining people that
29:49
Speaker 16: are still consuming power throughout the day, so they end
29:52
Speaker 16: up paying a higher share of the network costs.
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Speaker 15: Very inequitable.
29:56
Speaker 16: It's lumping that those least able to afford it with
29:58
Speaker 16: the highest share of the cost.
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Speaker 1: On Aiden, thanks for cutting through all this mess. I
30:02
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Aden Morrison there from the Center for Independent Studies. We've
30:06
Speaker 2: got to get to a break on the other side,
30:07
Speaker 2: more on how the Coalition is now taking up the
30:10
Speaker 2: fight to labor over both immigration and big government.
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Speaker 1: Front Bench at Andrew Wallace joins me.
30:16
Speaker 2: Next, let's set up to the Sunshine Coast in Queensland
30:25
Speaker 2: and catch up with the Shadow Attorney General Andrew Wallace.
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Speaker 1: And Andrew, good to talk to you again.
30:29
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at that picture and I got the
30:30
Speaker 2: Andrew Wallace marquee and the Andrew Wallace shirt. There's nothing
30:34
Speaker 2: like a bit of retail politicking, is there.
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Speaker 18: You got to love it any day away from Canberra
30:42
Speaker 18: and back in the electorate.
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Speaker 1: It's a good one, Chris. Is it an.
30:44
Speaker 2: Easier sell now under Angus Taylor. What's your sense you're
30:49
Speaker 2: getting back from the electorate about the leadership change.
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Speaker 18: Well, you know this discussion around leadership change, there's a
30:57
Speaker 18: lot of concern around other issues like infrastructure on the
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Speaker 18: Sunshine Coast. We've had twenty five groups through the listening
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Speaker 18: post this afternoon and that's probably close to a record.
31:08
Speaker 1: Chris.
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Speaker 18: So look, my general rule of thumb is when people
31:13
Speaker 18: are unhappy, my numbers are very, very significant in these
31:17
Speaker 18: listening posts. When they're happy, they don't turn up, so
31:20
Speaker 18: they're not happy.
31:21
Speaker 1: Let me tell you.
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Speaker 2: At the moment, your shadow Attorney General, there'll be a reshuffle,
31:26
Speaker 2: possibly as soon as tomorrow, Angus Taylor will announce his
31:30
Speaker 2: shadow cabinet.
31:31
Speaker 1: As a loyalist to Susan Lee.
31:33
Speaker 2: Do you expect you might stay on the front bench
31:35
Speaker 2: or it might be a time for the high jump.
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Speaker 18: Well, that's a decision for Angus. I'll serve in whatever
31:46
Speaker 18: capacity I'm asked to. That's politics, Chris, it sure is.
31:50
Speaker 2: Well, let's have a look at the way labor have
31:52
Speaker 2: responded to Angus Taylor. His strength is economics, He is
31:56
Speaker 2: a former shadow Treasurer and obviously very successful in business
31:59
Speaker 2: before he went into politics. Here's what the current Treasurer
32:02
Speaker 2: has to say about him.
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Speaker 19: Angus Taylor is the architect of the Liberal Party's policy
32:08
Speaker 19: for higher taxes on workers, bigger deficits, and more debt.
32:13
Speaker 19: After the way he failed our shadow treasurer, he should
32:16
Speaker 19: be let absolutely nowhere near a budget.
32:20
Speaker 2: The hutzpah of this guy to talk about others not
32:24
Speaker 2: being allowed near a budget. This is the fight you
32:26
Speaker 2: need though, isn't it a proper economic debate?
32:32
Speaker 3: Yeah?
32:32
Speaker 1: Look, I do think that's right, Chris.
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Speaker 18: You know, one of the consistent messages I'm getting at
32:37
Speaker 18: listening posts like today is people are really really hurting.
32:41
Speaker 18: They're working two jobs, sometimes three jobs, just to try
32:44
Speaker 18: and make ends meet. They are very very angry with
32:47
Speaker 18: this government, and you know, quite frankly, they've been angry
32:50
Speaker 18: with us because they haven't seen a united opposition.
32:53
Speaker 1: But hopefully that all changed.
32:55
Speaker 18: On Friday, the Party room emphatically endorsed Angus Taylor and
33:01
Speaker 18: Jane Hume, and I look forward to working with them
33:04
Speaker 18: in whatever capacity i'm asked.
33:06
Speaker 1: Now.
33:06
Speaker 2: Last week we saw that violence at the protest in
33:11
Speaker 2: Sydney's town Hall against the visit of Israeli President Isaac Hertzog.
33:15
Speaker 2: We saw police move on Muslim protesters who decided that
33:19
Speaker 2: was the place to do their evening prayers. We've seen
33:22
Speaker 2: Muslim preachers screech about this and accuse the police of brutality.
33:28
Speaker 2: Then on the weekend we saw the Prime Minister give
33:30
Speaker 2: saka to those arguments.
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Speaker 1: Really when he said.
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Speaker 9: This, I am concerned. I'm concerned that the great deal
33:38
Speaker 9: of hurt which the Muslim community are feeling about the
33:43
Speaker 9: disruption of prayers, I understand that, and I think that
33:49
Speaker 9: is something that needs a full explanation.
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Speaker 1: What's your assessment of the Prime Minister's comments there, Andrew?
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Speaker 18: My assessment, My support lies with the new South Wales
34:03
Speaker 18: Police Force. They were trying to do a job in
34:06
Speaker 18: a very difficult set of circumstances. When I first read
34:11
Speaker 18: and heard what the Prime Minister said, then I thought
34:15
Speaker 18: maybe he was talking about something totally different, because as
34:19
Speaker 18: a Catholic, if I was at a street demonstration and
34:23
Speaker 18: I decided to get down on my knees and start praying,
34:26
Speaker 18: I wouldn't expect police to treat me any differently to
34:29
Speaker 18: any of the other protesters if they were breaking the law.
34:33
Speaker 18: Just because you want to try and claim the religion
34:36
Speaker 18: card doesn't give you the license to break the law.
34:41
Speaker 18: And those protesters were being asked to move on by police.
34:45
Speaker 1: They were trying to effectively run.
34:47
Speaker 18: The gauntlet move out of the area in which had
34:50
Speaker 18: been designated by New South Wales Police. So therefore we're
34:54
Speaker 18: breaking the law in so doing. Just because you pray
34:58
Speaker 18: to whatever God, I don't care what God it is,
35:00
Speaker 18: but just because you can't use that religion card as
35:04
Speaker 18: you can't interrupt me, I'm sorry. I'll totally disagree emphatically
35:08
Speaker 18: with the Prime Minister and I support the police. Yeah.
35:11
Speaker 2: I would have thought most Australians are with you, but
35:13
Speaker 2: we have a Prime Minister who wants to bound scrape
35:16
Speaker 2: to certain groups. It's quite incredible. Thanks for joining us,
35:18
Speaker 2: Andrew Wallace, so I appreciate it. Andrew Wallace there, who
35:21
Speaker 2: for now is the shadow Attorney General. We'll see what
35:24
Speaker 2: the Morrow brings now after this break, when across to
35:27
Speaker 2: the UK, we'll catch up with Sophie R's worth a
35:29
Speaker 2: bit happening there on social media bands but also Reform reckon.
35:33
Speaker 1: They got to get ready for power in the UK.
35:42
Speaker 2: Now, Nigel Farage has predicted that a general election in
35:46
Speaker 2: the UK could come as early as this year if
35:48
Speaker 2: Labor continues its current steep descent into chaos.
35:53
Speaker 1: As Reform UK continues to surge in the polls.
35:55
Speaker 2: Farage has announced that he's going to be revealing a
35:58
Speaker 2: shadow cabinet in coming days, putting his party on a
36:01
Speaker 2: war footing.
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Speaker 20: I do today put this party on a general election
36:07
Speaker 20: war footing. We will make sure that when it comes,
36:10
Speaker 20: whatever it is, that we are ready in every way
36:14
Speaker 20: to fight and to when that election.
36:18
Speaker 2: Well, a shadow cabinet really trying to look like the
36:20
Speaker 2: alternative government, even though the election is officially years away.
36:24
Speaker 1: Let's catch up, of course with News Corp.
36:26
Speaker 2: You're correspondent and Sky News contributor Sophie Ellsworth.
36:29
Speaker 1: And Sophie, I.
36:30
Speaker 2: Know you're in Scotland at the moment last week you're
36:33
Speaker 2: outside Number ten Downing Street.
36:34
Speaker 1: It looks like you're sitting in there by the fire.
36:36
Speaker 2: Now tell us about Nigel Faraj and this war footing.
36:41
Speaker 1: You've written about it this week.
36:42
Speaker 2: He's really working hard to look professional and ready for government.
36:48
Speaker 21: He's indeed, Chris, they are a slick operation and there
36:51
Speaker 21: is no doubt they are pouring all their resources and
36:55
Speaker 21: energy into taking on the Labor government ahead of the
36:59
Speaker 21: next election which is due here in twenty twenty nine.
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Speaker 21: And I was in Birmingham last week Chris at his
37:06
Speaker 21: latest rally which he had two and a half thousand
37:09
Speaker 21: supporters there, and look, it was very energetic.
37:13
Speaker 1: There was a.
37:13
Speaker 21: Fireworks, there was lights, there was cameras, there was loud music.
37:17
Speaker 21: It was sort of what people describe as like a
37:20
Speaker 21: Magas style event. And he has got all the momentum
37:24
Speaker 21: here in the UK at the moment, Chris, he's leading
37:27
Speaker 21: the polls with thirty percent of the vote, ahead of
37:31
Speaker 21: Labor on about twenty two percent and the Conservatives nineteen percent.
37:35
Speaker 21: But I must stress he only has eight MPs in
37:39
Speaker 21: the House of Commons where there are six hundred and
37:41
Speaker 21: fifty MPs, so if he is to win the next election,
37:45
Speaker 21: he has a lot of hard work to do yet.
37:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, Kirs Starmer's hanging on, of course, hanging on
37:50
Speaker 2: to the prime ministership. You would have thought if Labour
37:52
Speaker 2: get in much more strife, obviously what happens is they
37:55
Speaker 2: change leader and have a new Prime minister. Firstly, surely
37:58
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be rushing off to the polls themselves.
38:01
Speaker 1: What sort of series of events you think could know?
38:05
Speaker 2: What are the possibilities that could lead to an earlier election.
38:11
Speaker 21: Well, there's no doubt that Sakir Starmer is in a
38:13
Speaker 21: lot of trouble and he had threats to his premiership
38:16
Speaker 21: last week, but that seems to have calmed down for
38:20
Speaker 21: the moment, Chris.
38:21
Speaker 15: But you've been in the.
38:22
Speaker 21: Political around the political arena a long time. You would
38:26
Speaker 21: know this far better than me. But these things can
38:29
Speaker 21: erupt pretty quickly again, and often they subside and then
38:33
Speaker 21: they flare up again.
38:34
Speaker 13: So there are.
38:36
Speaker 21: Expectations that he could get rolled by his cabinet, but
38:40
Speaker 21: at the moment they've come out in support of him.
38:42
Speaker 21: There are upcoming elections in Scotland and Wales in May
38:47
Speaker 21: and the results of those will be very interesting. And
38:49
Speaker 21: there's also a by election in a few weeks which
38:52
Speaker 21: is critical here in the UK. So depending on those results,
38:56
Speaker 21: if they do poorly, I suspect his labor MPs may
39:02
Speaker 21: look to move him on.
39:04
Speaker 2: Yes, some more stormy sees ahead for sure. Let me
39:07
Speaker 2: go to Prince Andrew, the former Prince Andrew. What do
39:10
Speaker 2: I call him now Andrew wins the Mount Batton. The
39:13
Speaker 2: statement has been made that even though he's a former royal,
39:16
Speaker 2: he is not.
39:17
Speaker 1: Above the law.
39:18
Speaker 2: The UK's Director of Prosecution, Stephen Parkinson and says nobody
39:22
Speaker 2: is above the law.
39:23
Speaker 1: It's my job to enforce the law and I do
39:26
Speaker 1: so without fear or.
39:27
Speaker 2: Favor, and that is unaffected by the status of the
39:30
Speaker 2: individual concerned. Fascinating situation, Sophie. Is there a realistic chance
39:35
Speaker 2: that the former prince could face some sort of charges
39:38
Speaker 2: in the UK?
39:41
Speaker 21: Well, The latest allegations leveled against him, Chris are that
39:44
Speaker 21: he was taking part in alleged misconduct while he was
39:49
Speaker 21: the UK's trade end boy. Now these are very serious
39:52
Speaker 21: allegations and yes he would face the full force of
39:56
Speaker 21: the law if that is the case, if they view
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Speaker 21: people who are working in and around him at the time.
40:03
Speaker 21: And there is intense pressure here in the UK that
40:07
Speaker 21: he must be held to account just because he's a
40:09
Speaker 21: member of the royal family yep, does not mean that
40:12
Speaker 21: he is protected, or should not mean that he's protected.
40:16
Speaker 1: So there is a lot of.
40:17
Speaker 21: Pressure here in the UK and it's very damaging, Chris
40:20
Speaker 21: for the royal family. There was a poll out just
40:23
Speaker 21: last week showing that support for the royal family is
40:27
Speaker 21: falling here in the UK. It's down to about fifty
40:30
Speaker 21: percent and it's usually far higher than that.
40:33
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of.
40:35
Speaker 21: Momentum here in the UK that something must be done.
40:38
Speaker 21: And Andrew Mountbatten winsor, who's always denied any wrongdoing, should
40:43
Speaker 21: be held to account.
40:44
Speaker 2: Just very quickly, Sophie, perhaps with Keirstarma looking for a
40:48
Speaker 2: political win, he's looking to these social media band Australian
40:52
Speaker 2: style laws that have been very popular here and it
40:54
Speaker 2: looks like the UK might rush something through.
40:58
Speaker 1: That's right.
40:58
Speaker 21: He's come out overnight and he said that basically they
41:02
Speaker 21: want to act very swiftly to enforce potentially an age
41:06
Speaker 21: limit here similar to Australia, to protect younger kids online
41:12
Speaker 21: and also preserving information of a young child if they die,
41:18
Speaker 21: and it's believed that they've used social media and the
41:20
Speaker 21: lead up to their death to preserve their information of
41:24
Speaker 21: what they were looking at and protecting them from relentless scrolling. Chris,
41:28
Speaker 21: these are pretty strong measures, but they are looking over
41:31
Speaker 21: here over to Australia, should I say, watching very closely,
41:35
Speaker 21: and looks like they'll do the same Yeah.
41:37
Speaker 2: We'll get some more on that with you next week.
41:39
Speaker 2: I think, Sophie, thanks so much for joining us, so
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Speaker 2: if yours worth all over it in the UK for
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Speaker 2: us as ever, and right across Europe, we're going to
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Speaker 2: get to a break.
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Speaker 1: On the other side.
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Speaker 2: Gematine Uni and Caroline der also we'll catch up on
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Speaker 2: a few things, including the anti women meme that Labor
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Speaker 2: throws at the coalition. Let's catch up with the panel
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Speaker 2: that sorts out the problems of the nations and the
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Speaker 2: world every week. Gematon Uni from GT Communications and Sky
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Speaker 2: News contributor Carolina also both joining us from sunny Perth today.
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Speaker 2: Good to see, Good to see both of you. Tell
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Speaker 2: me from the far West coast, how do things look
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Speaker 2: with a new Liberal leader in the fold?
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Speaker 22: You can go first, Carow Funny that, well, look, the
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Speaker 22: party room made its decision on Friday, and obviously that
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Speaker 22: was quite an emphatic decision.
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Speaker 15: Look, I try to when you.
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Speaker 5: Run the organization part of the party, it's really important
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Speaker 5: that we stick to our needing and we obviously remained
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Speaker 5: disciplined on things like this and leave to the party
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Speaker 5: room what's their business. But as we've talked about a
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Speaker 5: number of times, Chris, you know, there was that hemorrhaging
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Speaker 5: of the primary vote. There wasn't that policy coming out,
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Speaker 5: So I can understand the frustration within the party room
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Speaker 5: and more broadly that change has now been made. And look,
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are relieved that there
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Speaker 5: has been a change, that there's a potential, you know,
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Speaker 5: to change course. But ultimately, Chris, things are still not
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Speaker 5: great and a massive amount of work needs to be done.
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Speaker 5: So you know, my message to everyone is start rolling
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Speaker 5: your sleeves up because there's plenty to do and there's
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Speaker 5: no easy way out of this man.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot to be done.
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Speaker 2: But Jemma, what do you make of this meme that's
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Speaker 2: pushed by labor, perpetuated by the ABC, that somehow Susan
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Speaker 2: Lee's undoing was the fact that she's a woman.
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Speaker 23: Have they heard of Julia Gillard? I mean, these people
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Speaker 23: are incorrigible. Is the blood still dripping from the knife
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Speaker 23: between her shoulder blades all these years later?
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Speaker 14: I mean, they have.
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Speaker 23: One trick, and that's to perpetuate falsehoods. And the other
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Speaker 23: thing that occurred to me over the weekend is when
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Speaker 23: Susan Lae was elected leader, there was no attack meme
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Speaker 23: and none of that about her at all, which leads
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Speaker 23: me to think that they weren't particularly worried about Susan
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Speaker 23: and history dictates that they should have. They did have
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Speaker 23: nothing to worry about her leadership. She was not an
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Speaker 23: effective leader of the parliamentary Liberal Party, end of story.
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Speaker 23: So this is just stupid politics when people are trying
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Speaker 23: to pay their bills when energy prices are going up
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Speaker 23: thirty percent year on year. I don't think this is
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Speaker 23: the strategy. It's not the flex that you think it is, guys.
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Speaker 23: It just makes you look like a bunch of dills
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Speaker 23: who are disconnected from average Australians like you.
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Speaker 2: And I, yes, spot on now, I've got to get
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Speaker 2: your thoughts Carrow on our Prime minister.
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Speaker 1: No less given comfort.
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Speaker 2: To this meme that Muslims were the victims at the
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Speaker 2: Sydney town Hall protest last week because in the middle
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Speaker 2: of a well it turned out to be a violent protest,
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Speaker 2: they decided to get down and pray have their prayers there.
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Speaker 2: They could have gone anywhere else to pray, but they
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Speaker 2: had their prayers there were moved on forcibly by police,
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Speaker 2: I must say. But Albo says he has all sympathy
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Speaker 2: for these protesters and wants explanations from the police.
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Speaker 1: Is this the sort of national leadership we need.
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Speaker 5: No, well, it's not leadership, and he's obviously caught a
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Speaker 5: bit of heat. And you know, full marks to Chris
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Speaker 5: Mins and the police commissioner in New South Wales. If
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Speaker 5: you were given an instruction by the police, just follow it.
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Speaker 5: That we don't all get this get out of jail
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Speaker 5: free card from taking instructions from the police by kneeling
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Speaker 5: down and praying. I don't get to do that. No
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Speaker 5: one else should get to do that. And I do
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Speaker 5: understand that in the Muslim religion, you know, some people
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Speaker 5: do choose to pray five times a day. That's all
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Speaker 5: fine and well, but you know, be a bit prudent
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Speaker 5: and don't do it in the middle of a heated
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Speaker 5: protest like that and after you've received instructions from the
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Speaker 5: police to move on. So you know that we do
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Speaker 5: have a right in this country to practice our religion.
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Speaker 5: It's not an absolute right right that there are restrictions
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Speaker 5: on that, like all other rights that we have, and
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Speaker 5: they should be they should be exercised accordingly, because quite frankly,
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Speaker 5: I don't think the average person buys it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, spot on.
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Speaker 2: Now we don't know what sort of a front bench
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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor is going to put together. We could see
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Speaker 2: it as soon as tomorrow. I expect that's going to
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Speaker 2: be a lot better front bench than what we've had
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Speaker 2: over the past nine months or so. But just into
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Speaker 2: nawb jimper Price for one, thinks that she'll be back
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Speaker 2: on it.
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Speaker 1: I hope, so have a lot.
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Speaker 23: I'm back, baby, I'm back.
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Speaker 1: Don't worry about that.
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Speaker 13: I'm back.
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Speaker 1: I was having a breather, but I'm I'm back now.
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Speaker 1: You better believe it, Gemma.
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Speaker 2: At the very least, surely we see Jacinta and Andrew
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Speaker 2: Hasty back on the front bench, and Angus Taylor he
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Speaker 2: just has to run the best team on the park.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't he, We would think so.
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Speaker 23: I mean, I'm not as I'm not as connected or
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Speaker 23: should I say, shackled by party machinations as my learned
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Speaker 23: friend on the desk here, so I can speak a
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Speaker 23: little bit more freely. What I really despised about the
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Speaker 23: shadow cabinet under Susan Lee was that there were so
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Speaker 23: many strong, experienced performers who were relegated to the backbench
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Speaker 23: from the outside looking in what just looked like pettiness
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Speaker 23: and politics. And Australian voters don't care about politics. They
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Speaker 23: don't care what faction you're in.
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Speaker 1: They don't care.
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Speaker 23: Whether you're wet, dry, moderate, whatever. They want good government,
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Speaker 23: They want lower taxes. They want government out of their
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Speaker 23: classrooms and out of their lives, and out of their
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Speaker 23: bedrooms and out of their moral decisions about how they
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Speaker 23: raise their kids.
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Speaker 5: They want Australia to be a prosperous, cohesive society the
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Speaker 5: way that it was once and can be again with
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Speaker 5: good leadership.
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Speaker 23: They don't care about this. So the Liberal Party, as
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Speaker 23: I said last week, Chris one of the last ten
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Speaker 23: women in Australia who's still going to vote for them,
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Speaker 23: the Liberal Party can put all of that garbage to
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Speaker 23: one side. They might stand a chance put the best
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Speaker 23: people forward and put purpose over preferences. If your purpose
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Speaker 23: is to reset the course of this country and get
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Speaker 23: rid of the alban Easy regime and put purpose over.
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Speaker 2: Preference, don't talk about the Liberals, talk about the country.
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Speaker 2: Want to hear more of that. Thanks for joining us,
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Speaker 2: Caroline and Jemma, catch you next week. That is all
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Speaker 2: the time we've got for you tonight. Here's Peter Credlin.
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Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow