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The Beasts of LBL with Cryptidville's Mark Machek · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Crypted Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for being here tonight. My gosh,
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  Speaker 1: we have such a great show tonight because we have
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  Speaker 1: such a great dude here in the studio tonight. My
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  Speaker 1: good friend Mark Maychek is here with us tonight. You
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  Speaker 1: guys know Mark as Cryptidville most of you. He's in
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  Speaker 1: our Chance a lot. He's also been my co host
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  Speaker 1: several times here on the channel and my guests as well.
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  Speaker 1: And wow, y'all. He lives up with the Land between
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  Speaker 1: the Lakes up in Kentucky, and he has had several
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  Speaker 1: cryptid encounters. He's had a bunch. He's had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of experience throughout his life with cryptids, and tonight we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get into some of those and I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: Mark is a good friend and I really enjoy having
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  Speaker 1: him here. He has one of the ogs of the
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  Speaker 1: big Foot and dog Man communities. Y'all. Okay, so y'all
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  Speaker 1: get ready. We're gonna have a really good show tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And I am actually just getting in from the field myself.
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  Speaker 1: I was out doing a little big footing today and
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  Speaker 1: and I hope you guys are having a wonderful weekend,
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  Speaker 1: and thank you for spending here Saturday night, here with
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  Speaker 1: the cryptid Huntress. All right, well, let's get to our
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  Speaker 1: show tonight because we have Mark here. There's no telling
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  Speaker 1: where this conversation is going tonight, but I can promise
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  Speaker 1: you it might ruffle some feathers and it might just
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  Speaker 1: leave you scratch in your head. Okay, so it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Okay. So you know Marcus,
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  Speaker 1: my friend that came on the show and talked about
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  Speaker 1: the dog Man and the LBL that had face paint
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  Speaker 1: It basically had paint smeared down his face. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: we may get into that a little bit today. But
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  Speaker 1: after a series of odd paranormal events, Mark Maycheck became
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  Speaker 1: interested in the paranormal cryptids and UFOs because of the
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  Speaker 1: things that he experienced. He embarked on a journey to
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  Speaker 1: understand and the mysteries of the world. And thank goodness
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  Speaker 1: he did, because he is here with us tonight. You guys,
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  Speaker 1: please help me. Welcome to the show. Mark Maycheck aka Cryptinville.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Mark, Hi, Jessica, Thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course, thank you for being here. I've been
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  Speaker 1: I've been waiting for you to come back on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, when this one's over, you might be saying, oh.
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  Speaker 1: What was I thinking? What was I thinking? No, absolutely not,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not. You're You're in the chat all the time
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  Speaker 1: and uh and you're just it's always makes me feel
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  Speaker 1: good to see you here and uh in the chat
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  Speaker 1: and uh and so I was just waiting. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to push you, Okay, I didn't want to push
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  Speaker 1: you go on the show, but I knew when the
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  Speaker 1: time was right, you would be here. And so here
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  Speaker 1: you are and uh and you I was telling the
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  Speaker 1: audience that you live right up there at the land
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  Speaker 1: between the lakes up in Kentucky, and that's one of
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  Speaker 1: your research spots.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I've actually, uh, I've lived in this area
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  Speaker 2: for in the neighborhood of twenty seven years. I decided
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  Speaker 2: to stay in this area after I got out of
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  Speaker 2: the military. And uh it uh has been rather interesting,
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  Speaker 2: is probably the best best way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: Uh interesting. Yes, Well, you know that LBL has almost
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  Speaker 1: a stigma to it as being, you know, coming from
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  Speaker 1: a boots on the ground field researcher, an investigator. When
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  Speaker 1: you hear the LBL, you think of dog man massacres
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  Speaker 1: and people getting shredded to pieces by dog men and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that there's there's a lot of substance
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  Speaker 1: to that, right. But you know, when I first started
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  Speaker 1: going public with my research, I didn't even really know
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  Speaker 1: about the dog man stuff too much until I started
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  Speaker 1: bringing people on my shows that talked about it and
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  Speaker 1: that had encountered dog men. But what I did know
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  Speaker 1: about dog man was the lb yel Okay, the lb
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  Speaker 1: L that is like the pinnacle of dog man field
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  Speaker 1: research right there and and encounters. It's got such a stigma,
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  Speaker 1: But now it feels like everybody goes there and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not seeing it any less scary, Okay, But
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  Speaker 1: but how do you feel about that? Because I know
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  Speaker 1: I've got David Pardue is a good friend of mine
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  Speaker 1: that comes on my show. His one main research area
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  Speaker 1: was Uori National Forest up in North Carolina. It was
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  Speaker 1: teeming with big foots, okay, for the longest time, and
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  Speaker 1: that was his that was his spot, And then a
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  Speaker 1: TV show came out there and now it's just it
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  Speaker 1: kind of it lost the mistique on. It didn't lose
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  Speaker 1: a mistique for him, but but it dampened it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about the lb L right
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  Speaker 1: now or whatault?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Actually, actually, actually the way that I feel about
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  Speaker 2: it is, you know, I had a I had a
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  Speaker 2: a pretty thing, pretty good thing going as far is
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  Speaker 2: a real good research area, and I understand it's public land.
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  Speaker 2: You can't really say to anybody, oh, well, you can't
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  Speaker 2: come to this area and all that good stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: I get that, but all of the hype that has
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  Speaker 2: been put out by certain people who will remain nameless,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of kind of gives it the it's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, they give it this. And don't
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  Speaker 2: get me wrong, I'm not going to say that it's
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  Speaker 2: not dangerous. I'm not going to say that there's not
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  Speaker 2: anything going on over there, that there's not bigfoot, dog
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  Speaker 2: man other things in that area. But I I think
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  Speaker 2: it's safe to say that it's not to the magnitude
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  Speaker 2: that some people make it out to be. M HM.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, as as an example, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna call names, but there's one podcaster in particular
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  Speaker 2: that every video there for a while that they were
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  Speaker 2: putting out it was you know, LBL so so got
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  Speaker 2: killed or killed team or this, that and the other.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, my my my response to that is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, these people, these people that are putting these
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  Speaker 2: videos out, a lot of them have never even been
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  Speaker 2: to the LBL. So they're just saying things or relating
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  Speaker 2: information that's given to them by somebody else that may
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  Speaker 2: or may not be true. And it just makes makes
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  Speaker 2: it makes it kind of hard for or the legit
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  Speaker 2: people that are trying to do real research, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because it just does because it draws that that negative
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  Speaker 2: attention to the area when it might not necessarily need
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  Speaker 2: to be put in that perspective towards people, towards people
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  Speaker 2: that are in the public so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like I said, that is the that's the spot
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  Speaker 1: for dog man research, you know. And I've been doing
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  Speaker 1: bigfoot research since twenty eleven and and dog man get
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  Speaker 1: sprinkled in there a little bit with these investigations that
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  Speaker 1: I do. It just it is what it is, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But but my my main thing was, you know, bigfoot
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  Speaker 1: field research, and I got to admit, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like we know bigfoots around there. My next thing was like,
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  Speaker 1: I really do want to see a dog man, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and the best place to go, according to if you
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  Speaker 1: watch YouTube is the l b L. Okay, I might,
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  Speaker 1: I might have a trip kind of loosely planned up
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  Speaker 1: there at some point and I and I'd like a
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  Speaker 1: good tour guide if you're available, okay at some point.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, but anyways, it's it is. It does have
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  Speaker 1: that stigma to it as being, you know, a place
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  Speaker 1: of evil actually, and what do you think about that?
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  Speaker 1: Because to you that I mean you you call that
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  Speaker 1: area home, not the LBL is your home, but outside
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  Speaker 1: of it, it's got a very evil stigma to it.
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  Speaker 1: What what do you agree with that?
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  Speaker 2: Or no? Well a couple a couple of comments on that.
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  Speaker 2: So the the first thing that I want to want
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  Speaker 2: to mention is, you know, you have people that that
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  Speaker 2: want to come there and they want to research and
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  Speaker 2: they want to look around, and that's that's all fine
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  Speaker 2: and dandy. They go in there and they they do
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  Speaker 2: their experiments and they do their calls and wood knocks
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  Speaker 2: and what have you, and you know, when they're three
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  Speaker 2: days to a week is up, they go home. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm mentioning that because of the fact that
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  Speaker 2: and we I know, we had the discussion at one
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  Speaker 2: point where we talked about conjuring encryptids, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: I think it's important for people to understand that there
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  Speaker 2: are people out there that are willing to do anything, anything,
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  Speaker 2: to have an interaction with one of these entities, whatever
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  Speaker 2: they are, and that can include things that are not
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  Speaker 2: on the level of just going out there and doing
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  Speaker 2: a vocalization or a call or tree knocks, you know it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it gets sit to the realm of the supernatural,
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  Speaker 2: spiritual spiritual realm, and some of it could be benign
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  Speaker 2: or you know, non malevolent, and some of it can
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  Speaker 2: be downright negative, you know in nature. And when they
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  Speaker 2: when they come and do those things and leave, then
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  Speaker 2: you know what happens when they leave after doing that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it leaves the people that live in this
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  Speaker 2: area to deal with whatever they they have done. Because
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  Speaker 2: you know, I know we're all familiar with the concept
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  Speaker 2: of portals. You know, if you go into an area,
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  Speaker 2: you open up a portal. However you do it, you
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  Speaker 2: leave that portal open, you know, and you just go
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  Speaker 2: on your way, or you get scared and you leave.
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  Speaker 2: You know who's policing that that portal. If if that
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  Speaker 2: portal's not closed and that leaves there there there is
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  Speaker 2: a consequence that's that's put upon the people that live
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  Speaker 2: and freak with that area to deal with at some point.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, uh, it's it's rather concerning to me from
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  Speaker 2: from that perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I one hundred percent back you up on that.
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  Speaker 1: I do. And and we are very familiar with portals
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  Speaker 1: here on this channel for sure. And and I do
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  Speaker 1: believe that I've talked so much about portals that everybody
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  Speaker 1: who watches my shows, the regulars here we know, we
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  Speaker 1: know that, uh, there is absolutely a possibility to open portals.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we explore a lot about like where
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  Speaker 1: do these cryptids come from? Okay, where where are they coming from?
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  Speaker 1: Could they be interdimensional? And and there are some real
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  Speaker 1: seekers out there. And I am not going to say
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  Speaker 1: that I have never done anything crazy. I've done a
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  Speaker 1: lot of crazy stuff. Okay, I've done a lot of
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff in my lifetime. Okay, but purposely trying to
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  Speaker 1: open a portal to bring a dog man in does
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  Speaker 1: not is not one of them. Okay, it's not one
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  Speaker 1: of them. However, my team has documented an actual portal
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  Speaker 1: we do believe. I mean, maybe that's where some of
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  Speaker 1: these critters and people probably too are coming in and
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  Speaker 1: out of. But you just you just never know really something,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I'm not saying not everybody doesn't know what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing, okay, but but there are thrill seekers. And
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  Speaker 1: I've been bait. I admit it. I raised my hand.
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  Speaker 1: I have been big footbait. I volunteered to be big footbait.
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  Speaker 1: But it was not to anyone's detriment but my own. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it was me. If anything happened to anybody, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be me, and it was going to be taken off
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  Speaker 1: by a bigfoot and uh and hopefully my mom would
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  Speaker 1: you know, they'd see what happened and they tell my mom, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and that's that. Okay. But when people go out, if
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  Speaker 1: they get a little bit of information about something and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, well, let's let's take this grimoire here
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  Speaker 1: or something. Okay, no shade to people who practice witchcraft
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. It's it is what it is. I'm just saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but take like a spell book or something, or read
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  Speaker 1: something online and they're like, okay, well, let's and there's
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  Speaker 1: actual cults. Probably, I would assume that go out to
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  Speaker 1: places like the LBL. That's a place of power in
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  Speaker 1: between two bodies of water. And if they hear that
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  Speaker 1: dog men are out there or wear wolves. Maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: doing rituals and stuff. Potentially, I don't know, but they
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  Speaker 1: go out there and they take they do spells and rituals,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying sacrifices and things like that. I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea. I don't know what goes. I've never
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  Speaker 1: been there before, Okay, But let's say that somebody did
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  Speaker 1: get a little a little spicy out there, decide to
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  Speaker 1: do something like that, and it opens up something bad, okay,
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  Speaker 1: or opens up a portal and something bad comes through.
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  Speaker 1: But that scares me to death thinking about that. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: as a researcher like yourself, you know you live out there.
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  Speaker 1: As a researcher, I always advise people not to even
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  Speaker 1: gift cryptids, okay, because of the aftermath of what it
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  Speaker 1: could do to the families that have children, because there
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  Speaker 1: are children that go out there. Right And before you
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  Speaker 1: answer that, Jojo, thank you for that supersticker. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate you. But children go out there
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  Speaker 1: quite often, right Mark, Oh, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: One of the craziest things that I saw or have
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  Speaker 2: seen in the time that I've lived in this area.
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  Speaker 2: I was on the trace, which is the main road
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  Speaker 2: that goes through the lamp between the legs and by
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  Speaker 2: the way, I just want to mention. I know it's
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, and I know there may be people that
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  Speaker 2: are interested in coming to the LBO this weekend, but
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  Speaker 2: I just want to let you know before you consider
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  Speaker 2: doing that this weekend. In particular, they have actually they
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  Speaker 2: are actually trying to shut down the land between the
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  Speaker 2: lakes so that people don't get in there and put
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  Speaker 2: themselves into a dangerous situation because of the flooding that's
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  Speaker 2: actually going on in this area right now. And just
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  Speaker 2: wanted to mention that.
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  Speaker 1: So there was I just before I just want to say,
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  Speaker 1: there was flooding where I went to Day two. It
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  Speaker 1: was weird. We never have flooding out there, and things
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  Speaker 1: were flooded. There had been a control burned too, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but but there was there was a lot of flooding
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  Speaker 1: today out there. And this is in Georgia, so we're
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit of ways from you. But anyways, that's
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  Speaker 1: good advice, though, Oh yeah, you have been warned people.
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  Speaker 2: So it just so happened one weekend. I was coming
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  Speaker 2: down the trace from the very north tip of the yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and there's this particular place where there's a walking trail
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  Speaker 2: that runs alongside the road for a little bit, and
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  Speaker 2: there was a young girl sitting on the on the trail.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's a two or three foot wide paved trail,
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  Speaker 2: her path, and she was sitting there, had headphones on,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm driving by and I'm like, just, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's just dumbfounding. How oblivious to her environment.
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  Speaker 1: She was, Oh, that's never good. That's never good. Earbuds. No, y'all,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: don't wear earbuds even when you're walking through town, right Mark.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: It's like, be aware of your strong always try to
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  Speaker 2: be aware of your surroundings, irregardless of where you're at,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, we got we got some crazy, crazy
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  Speaker 2: cray people out there, and you know, you got to
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  Speaker 2: look out for yourself because you know, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, there's not a whole lot of people
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  Speaker 2: that even if somebody were to try to attack you
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, kidnap you or whatever, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how many times I've seen videos where people just
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  Speaker 2: stand by and watch and don't try to intercede because
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  Speaker 2: they don't evolved.
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  Speaker 1: There's actually something there that that's labeled. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: label I forgot what they call that. It's like bystander
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  Speaker 1: syndrome or something like that, and it's I was just
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  Speaker 1: watching that this week, and it's like where people are
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  Speaker 1: being you know, beaten to death and stuff and hurting,
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  Speaker 1: they're begging people for help, and people just stand there
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  Speaker 1: and watch and pull their phones out in video. It's like, what,
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  Speaker 1: that's not me? Okay? To me, that would be like MPCs.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know what NPC is. That's like NPC behavior.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I even see, if I see a
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  Speaker 1: kid get something happen to anybody, I'm jumping in. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm up and in and and I don't care what it's.
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  Speaker 1: The consequences don't matter at that point because I'm just
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  Speaker 1: I'm a I will react if I have to. That's
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  Speaker 1: just the way I am. But not not everybody's like that.
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  Speaker 1: That mark. It's weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely definitely weird. And I think the more
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  Speaker 2: remote you put your yourself like in a place like
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  Speaker 2: the LBO and you encounter something like that, your response
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  Speaker 2: to an event is going to be less likely because
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  Speaker 2: of just being in the area that you're in, not
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  Speaker 2: even mentioned the fact that you're you're probably dealing with
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  Speaker 2: a cryptid. I mean, I mean, who who in their
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: right mind wants to go out that way, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: at the hands of a cryptid?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, Okay, I gotta be honest, uh,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: being a researcher and going out there, I've had I've
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: come to terms with the fact that I'm putting myself
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: in really bad predicaments and it could happen, and it
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: could happen. I don't want it to happen. It will
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: not happen, but I wouldn't do it if I didn't
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: already know that it could happen. I'm just saying, but.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's like myself. You know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: for the longest time, for the first I don't know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: ten fifteen years that I was researching in the LBL
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the majority of the time, even though I was involved
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: with a loosely I'm not going to say loosely knit,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: but a group of people that would come to the LBL,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: like maybe once or twice a year. The majority of
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the time I would research over there by myself because
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I couldn't find anybody that was willing to go. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's it's it's actually bizarre because
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: you know, you hear people, you know, when they find
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: out you're interested in the subject, they're like, oh, that's cool,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I'd like to go over there and check it out,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you know, and go over there with you. And then
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: when it comes time to put the rubberts to the road,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: they're not. There are no shows, and and or they're
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: just oh I can't do it or whatever they back out.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how many people I've had
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to tell me, oh, well, Bigfoot's not real, and then
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, if it is, let's go see one.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And then when it comes time to go see one,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: they're they're just no, I can't do that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And well that's that's when reality hits. It's like, well,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: if these things are real, I wanted to know, but
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: how but do I probably not.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: They ain't like us with that song. They're not like us.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I was show and I was the other
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: day I was I was driving somewhere at work and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that song came on the radio and I thought of
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: that instantly, and I was like, you know, that's kind
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: of a very moving song.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It's horrible. It's programming too. Every time when I got
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: stuck with my wife and hooking up to my truck
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: on the way home from that Bigfoot conference, I kept
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: hearing that song over and over again, and I couldn't
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: believe how much they played that song.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It was so bad.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It was so bad, you know. But anyways, yeah, it's programming.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, not everybody's like us, Mark, Oh yeah, that's a.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's kind of a you know, I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a big music buff and you know, a lot of
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: times I'll talk about songs or movie clips or whatever
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: to get a point across, and uh uh. You know
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of people don't get that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: They just think, oh, he's just playing in this music
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: or that music or whatever because it's a good song
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: or it's an old ear or whatever. But usually there's
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a reason behind it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well, well you go out there, you're
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: not always with the team of people out there, like
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you go out whenever. I guess whenever you just get
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a itch to go out there, right? Is that how
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you kind of go out to the LBL sometimes and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you've had several encounters couple with dog.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Men, right, Yeah, it's it's it's kind of kind of interesting.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: You know, here where I'm at, I can get in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: my truck and I can be downtown Golden Pond in
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: about ten minutes. That's how close I am to it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: That's real close. That's real close. So people are opening
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: up portals over there and things are crawling out of it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And if you've been marked, Okay, that's what some people say.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So I will say that, like if you see a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: bigfoot or you see a dog man, you get marked,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna you're always gonna see them. You've been
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying even Mark Mark, Okay, I'm just saying
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: theoretically speaking. And you live right there, so man, I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: can see why you got a little concern about all that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's a excuse me. That's a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that's a factor that I've I've had to deal with
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: in in in the real because you know, you hear
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: all these people that talk about oh whoa, these things
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: will follow you home or this that and the other.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: And I made a comment the other night in your video,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: and I'll go ahead and talk about this. You know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I said, you know if you if you block them out,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: they will invade your dreams. Remember that comment.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: They will never forget that comment. Oh my god, I'm
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: so glad you brought that up because I because I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: actually called that. I called you out. I was like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: it sounds like you're speaking from experience. Tell us about
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: what you're tell us, what were you so about?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So when I first after my very first uh dog
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: man sighting, the one with the the one that had
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the looked like pain on the side of.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Its muzzle, the face paint.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, after I had that encounter, I started digging real
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: deep into the whole phenomenon and I was looking at
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: different things. And now m the and I'll get to
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: that question here in just a minute.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: They're, uh, oh, yeah, that's William. He's talking about the cemeteries.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: We will not forget. We're gonna cover that one for sure, William.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you. So mhm. I've always had a tendency when
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I when I go into an area, you know, and
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people may not understand this,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and may not may not get this due to lack
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: of experience or full understanding. But you know, and I
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: don't know how to how to explain how this works.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: But there was a time and basically the way that
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: it was, I could go into an area and without
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: seeing anything or any obvious sign, no structures, no footprints, nothing,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I could go into that area and if there was
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a bigfoot, dog, man whatever in that area, I would
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: know it something something intuition related, or something along that nature.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it. I don't know
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: how it works. All I know is that that that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: turned out to be the case. So knowing that I
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: was on that that that level, you know, I've I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: had always heard this whole concept and this talk of oh, well,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: they can telepathically communicate with you, and this, that and
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the other. And so I remember a long time ago
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine told me a story about a
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: guy in Maine who had a cabin out in the woods.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to convince this. So basically, they were
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: telepathically talking to this guy and it got to the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: point where at one point they were telling him that
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: he needed to do a bunch of things that he
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: was not able to do, and you know, basically telling
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: me he needed to move to a certain location. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: when he went against them, they started doing things that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: were you know, in the beginning, they were beneficial and
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: you know, helpful to the guy and looked out for
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: him in different ways. And as soon as he went
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: against what they were asking him to do, they started acting,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you know, in a negative fashion.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: So sounds like people, I know.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So because of that, you know, I've always been
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: of the mindset that I'm just not going to give
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: them access to me like that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So so you shut it down, I mean, did you?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: So you you you kind of shut your oro down, right,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: is that what you're saying, kind of shut the oor down,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: just kind of keep to yourself and you do not
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: allow it. You put up a shield, a psychic shield, is.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: What we call that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So when I was doing a lot of the digging
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: into the whole dog Man phenomenon, there was information that
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I came in contact with that caused me to do that,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: to not want to allow that kind of contact. So
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: basically they decided that they wanted to contact me in
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: my dreams one night.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You mean the dog men.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, So basically, the way that it happened was in
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: this dream that I'm going to call a dream, which
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: may not have been a dream.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I totally forget that. I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: So I was in I was behind that was between
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: a big apartment building and a tree line that was
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: pine trees, and there was a space I would say
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: maybe fifty sixty yards wide in between it, and there
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: was a chain link fence in the ditch that drainage
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: just ran through there. And there was, of all things,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: a clothesline. And on this clothesline there were white sheets
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: pinned to the clothesline, and on those sheets there were
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: claw marks looked like something that just walked up.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It just sounds symbolic.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And then I'm standing there looking at these claw marks
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and I hear something coming up through the woods in
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the tree line. I never saw them, but they came
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: up to the edge of the tree line and I
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: knew what they were. And all of a sudden, I
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: hear this voice and it says, if you don't stop
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: looking for us, we're gonna get you. Oh my. So
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay. So I thought about it after
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the next day, and I literally took a six month
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: break from any research because of that, and you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I've had, let's just say, I've had some interesting experiences
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: that not a lot of people know about that surround
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: that whole topic and surround some of the individuals that
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: live in this area that kind of make me question,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, was I really was it? Was
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it really dog man or was it like wear wolves?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Or exactly was that? You know, because when you when you,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, you start looking at the whole dog man phenomenon,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: you know, there's that gray area where you know, some
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: people might say, was it a dog man to wear wolf?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, and I can I can tell
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: you because the two sightings that I had there were
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: two different types. The first one, the one with the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: face paint, was more like it was if you looked
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: at it, it was like a bigfoot with a wolf
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: head on it. Now, the second one, the second one
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: that I saw, was straight up Van van Helsing type
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: werewolf and huge and fast, and it was just very
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: different from the first one that I saw. So I
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: think that, you know, one of them may not have
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: been a quote unquote dog man. It may have been
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: a were wolf. So if it if it was a werewolf,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I know Dennis talks about Dennis Carroll talks
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: about were wolves and them having that human humanistic aspect
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and and all that and the human logic because at
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: one time they were they were they were humans and
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and are humans up until they totally sell out to
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the dark side or whatever however you want to look. Yeah,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: so you know, it's let's just say, there's there's some
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: things that that that are kind of interesting about the
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: whole subject, you know, and and I don't know, have
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: your I'm just gonna mention this. I'm just gonna mention this.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Do you ever wonder why, like when you look at
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: all these movies they come out, like Underworld and all that,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Why why would they have vampires against wear wolves? Why
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: would they put that into a movie other than just
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the action aspect of it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, isn't there Okay I've never been to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the LBL, but isn't there a vampire hotel there?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, there's Well, well, first of all, they are I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: might say mythological, even though I know they're not mythological,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: but mythological icons, right, Vampires and were wolves they go
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: hand in hand kind of because they both, you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: go for the blood. It's all about the blood, okay.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And it's all very ritualistic as well. And going back
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: to the Bill Schanobylan Legacy Club video that I've seen
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: where he gives that lecture where he says he's a rabbi. Now,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I think, but back then, back in the day, I
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: think it's probably I'm gonna say it's probably the eighties.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: That was the time, right.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I just feel like that would have been a good
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: time to be a vampire for some reason. I don't
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: know why. Uh, but he said that back in the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty you know, back back in the day he
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: was part of the Brotherhood of Satan and that he
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: reached a high level. He's also been a high level
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: freemason as well, but when he hit that high level,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: he was given the opportunity to either become a vampire
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: or a werewolf. Okay. And it kind of just goes
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: hand in hand. That's that's what it is. And uh
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and maybe it's got some Satanic roots to it. And
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: and speaking speaking of prayers though, okay, let's let's call
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: in a little protection right now, everybody, okay, because we
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: are we're getting into a little darkness a little bit
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: here when it comes to this stuff. And Larry Sharp,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for that supersticker. He said, Happy Saturday,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: y'all in prayers. Okay, we could use him right now, Yes,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: prayers everybody. And you know, there's, like I said, there's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: just something, there's a dark stigma to the LBL. And
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, after all the years that I've talked about,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: all the years, all two or three years that I've
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: ever talked about the LBL, my opinion has actually kind
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of changed from it being a dog man, a dog
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: man that potentially attacked that family, and that's the main
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: story that comes out of the LBL is like in
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, a family was mauled to death by
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a you know, a dog man. I did a remote
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: viewing session of that. I do believe that happened. I've
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: been hearing. I've done shows where I've had people in
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the chat saying, well, I don't believe that ever happened.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: And there's people that go there and they say that
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: never happened. Well, I don't know. I think the story is,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I did a remote viewing case of it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: You know, like a session. I think it probably did happen, Okay,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: But the stories get skewed a little bit over the years,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and there's so much misinformation and we just don't know right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people don't know this, But there's
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: all really when Jan Thompson was alive, there's only really
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: three people that I know of that actually spend any
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: time with Jan and tried to validate that story in
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: some way and tried to, uh, you know, see see
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: what was the case with that story from from her perspective,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and that would be uh Mart and Nutley. And as
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: as much as we may not like him. What's the guy,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the Snapple guy? Yeah, what's his name?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, the guy that was known to be an accuse
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: being a hoaster or something.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: No, no, I don't know if somebody will know in
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the chat. Let me see. Let me check the chat
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: real quick. Let's see, I don't see any names. Somebody
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: from the lv yell that was a hoaxer.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: No, this guy, he lives in California, I think, okay,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: and he had a he's actually was the first person
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: to have a corporation that was geared towards researching Bigfoot.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I think it was called Search for Bigfoot or search
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: search for Bigfoot or something like that, searching for Bigfoot
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: or something like that. I a'll remember his name here,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Thomas Cardy. That's his name.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, you said it, not me. I don't know him, Okay.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: So, and then myself and a couple of researchers that
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: are now passed away and and long gone, they were
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: interested in the story and they decided they wanted to
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: come down and help me try to validate it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: And uh, oh man, that's that's pretty big time. Like you,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you have roots and like you know, like I said,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you're one of the ogs. First of all, you're one
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of the OG's of the l b L in my book. Okay,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: bottom research, I consider you that. You probably don't consider
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: yourself that, but I do, Okay, I don't.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I don't do the research that I do to try
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to be somebody. I do it to understand what's what's
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: actually going really going on, and to learn what I
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: can about. You know, when I first started, when I
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: first have AH, when I first had in my my,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: when I had my first encounter, you know, I wanted
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: to know what it was and why I encountered it
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and all that good stuff. So and then it wasn't
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: until later and why that I had my second encounter
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: that really got me curious about, you know, the whole
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: subject and told me that there was more to the story.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And the only way that I was going to find
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: out what that more to the story was was too
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: to look into it. So that got me started on
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a on a journey to try to understand all this stuff.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not you know, people tell me, oh, well,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you should do a podcast and this that end. I'm
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: not a podcaster. That's that's not my that's not my jam.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Well that's why you can just come on my channel
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: whenever you feel like it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, now you give me some you give me a subject,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: and you tell me you want to know everything about
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that subject. I can research, you know. And then on
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: top of that, you know, because of my upbringing, you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I was I was imbued the skill set to actually
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: get out in the field and do field research. And
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like I do it in a way that
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: not a lot of people do because I mean, if
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you if you listen to what people are saying on podcasts,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: and I understand that people may go on a podcast.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: They're not going to tell everything that they do and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: experience and what have you, and I get that, but
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the things that they are saying, it leaves me to
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: think that maybe they're overlooking things, that maybe they're research
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: methodology is maybe not the best, or it needs to
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: be refined or there there's there. Objectivity is not in
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a in a place where because you know as well
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: as I do. You know, you take somebody, if you,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: if you were to pick anybody out of this audience
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: and you take them out in the woods and they
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: know that they're going to look for bigfoot, especially especially
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: if they're inexperienced. You take them out there, every sound
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: is going to be a bigfoot.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Usually, yes. But I gotta admit I've got two ladies
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: at least in this chat right now that I took
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: out bigfooting about two weeks ago after the Georgia Bigfoot Conference.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Shout out to you guys. Okay, I got Amy and LeeAnne,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the two sisters, and I got jas. I don't know
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Jamie's in the chat. I haven't seen her. The chat's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: moving really fast night. But LeeAnne and Amy are in
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: here and I met them at the conference, So it
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: took them out. First of all, Amy had better equipment
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: than we had. Okay, first of all, but they're they're
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in a league of their own. Okay when it comes
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: to bigfoot. Yes, if I were to take like one
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: of my friends, one of my friends that makes fun
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of me for being a bigfooter out in the woods,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: they would No, they wouldn't even I don't even think
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: they'd ever get out of the car. They wouldn't get
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: out of the car. It would be too terrifying. And uh,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and that's why we don't take people out in the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: field usually ever that that don't have experience already.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: And they have to be heavily vetted to go out.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: And uh, my whole team's trained in mind control. Okay,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like we're training all sorts of mind control tactics just
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: because of how terrifying it could be out there. Okay,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: yeah it's not. It's not for the week at.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: All, definitely. And yeah, really and truly when you when
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: you get over into places like the l b L
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: or the l b L, you know, and I hear
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: it all the time, people people say, oh, well I
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: want to I want to go over there. I want
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: to see a big foot of dog man or whatever.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I just remember it's all fun of games until it happens.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And the important thing to remember about it is irregardless,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: irregardless of how how many encounters you've had, you can
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: never ever control how an encounter is going to happen.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: You know. You could say, oh, well, I'd like to
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: see one at a distance and it go its way
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: and me go by way. You can't. You have no
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: control over that when it when it actually happens, it
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: may be right up on you and it may be
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: pissed off. Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to get ready. Yeah, you be ready
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: for anything out there. And uh yeah, I actually feel
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: sorry for people who are out there just enjoying a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: camping trip with their family and being terrorized by something
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: like that. Can you imagine the fear? I mean that
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: would and I tell everybody don't live in fear, okay,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: but if you got something screaming at you in your camp,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you know, or you see a wear wolf out there,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And like I said, I think my perspective has shifted
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: over the years of like thinking that was a dog man.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: There's like a bunch of dogs and I think there
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: are a lot of probably dogmen out there to l BO.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But I think potentially would attack that family if that happened.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: If this is written, I think it is. I think
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: it was more were wolves than dog man. But that's
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: just my opinion after studying were wolves and dog Man
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: pretty extensively. Okay, it just seems like that would be
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: more wear wolf behavior than dog man behavior.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I I can't, you know, like I always always
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: revert back to the to the old adage that you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I don't really know what happened. So
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: you know, all we have is is, uh, you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the descriptive information from the story story and then if
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: you want to, if you want to look at the uh,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: the whole Roger L B L story. I was just
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: pulling this up that information, you know, and not to
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: say that his story is true or isn't true, but
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's information that goes along with
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: the story, and we don't really know. Now. The only
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: thing I can tell you is, like I said in
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: the beginning of this biglong TI tribe is we did
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: try to. We spent a week with jan and we
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: went to several different locations. We went and talked to
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: her cousin who was supposedly chased on a motorcycle by
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: one And you know, at the end of and the
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: end of that week, the jury was still out. I mean,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I was still at the point where I couldn't say
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: it was true or it wasn't true. And the interesting
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: part about the whole thing is there was a time
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: after that where myself and Jan we broke contact and
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: she was going through a lot of life stuff and
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, living life and doing my thing.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And prior to that, there were some things that were
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: related to me that I didn't really understand by Jam
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: and I didn't know why she was telling me those things,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and it took many years to figure out what it
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: all possibly meant. And I think that it it just
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, even though I couldn't
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: say that, you know, hey, the story happened, or this
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: story is true, I could say this is something that
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: lends to the credibility of the story. Now, aside from
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Jan herself, you know, I've lived in this area for
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: twenty seven years. I know a lot of people I
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: know you knew, and people of varying backgrounds, different you know, lifestyles,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: good people, bad people, you name it, I know them.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: And I have talked to a lot of people that
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: have lived here all their life. I've talked to people
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: that lived here during that timeframe that that event supposedly happened.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: The interesting thing about it is the majority of the
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: people that know about it, when I talk to them,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, yeah, that really happened. They do Yeah,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: that really happened. Wow. And the interesting thing about it
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: is this when they find out that I'm a bigfoot
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: bigfoot dog slash dog man researcher or I'm investigating that topic.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Then for whatever reason, they change their story and they're like, oh, whoa,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: that really didn't happen or whatever. And I'm like, okay, whatever,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Oh I've.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Seen I've seen people change their stories too before and
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: it's the oddest thing. It's the oddest thing. And I, oh,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you go, we can go there tonight. I guess we
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: can go there with that. Well, I've seen it a lot,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and and as researcher, ourselves and people who our lives
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: kind of I'm not gonna say my life, my life
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: does kind of revolve around this. Now used to not
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: okayed to do this for I still just do this
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: for fun. Okay, But I never in a millionaire thought
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: that my life would literally revolve around bigfoot and dog
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: man at this point. Okay, but but you know, it's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: uh you. We go out there and we do some research,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: we do some investigations of like some you know. I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: investigated an alleged bigfoot death, a death that was caused
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: by a bigfoot, and I was called out there. The
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: guy kept the partners, a park ranger. He kept trying
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to get me to go out to this park. He
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: was like, we've had nine sightings in like twenty eight
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: days or thirty days. And it wasn't until he said
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: they had a death, and just I was like, all right, well,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: we'll be out there at this point. There's a death
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: related to a bigfoot. I'm there. I'll be right there.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: We got let's go see what we can do about this, Okay.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: And I went and this guy had no reason to
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: lie to me about all this. And I got out there.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: He showed us all the places where bigfoot had been,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: all the sightings and everything, and then he told it.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I even sat on the in the room. I went
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: inside the cabin where the old man had died. I
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: sat on the bed okay. Like I remember being in
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: there and I was like, oh man, And I was
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: looking from because I wanted to get the vantage point
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: from the bed to the window and all that, you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Like I put myself in his situation, and I was like,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: all right, it all panned out. We went around, we
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: looked for tracks, we looked for any kind of big
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: foot signed around the cabin, and we didn't find a
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: whole lot. But then, come to find out, one of
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: my teammates knows the coroner in that town, and the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: coroner had a completely different story. And it was like
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with the older man that
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: had died. It was a young girl who had had
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: a drug overdose and stuff. It's just nothing. None of
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: it made sense. I felt like I was losing my mind. Honestly.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Well I've actually, you know, I've actually encountered that myself
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: when I was looking into an incident that happened in
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the LBL and it just so happened that I worked
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: with a guy that was related to the corner in
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the county that that did the autopsy on the the
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: the decendent, and uh, it was related to me that
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: it was a drug overdose and when as soon as that,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: as soon as that information was was released to me,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I know this is fake.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Do you Mark, Do you think that there's like a
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: is that is that the go to?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Is that the go to?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I think I could be if any Okay, so we
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: got a lot of bigfoot and dog man researchers in
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: the chat right now. If anybody I don't I'm not
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: saying put it in the chat right now, but y'all
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: contact me and let me know if you've ever had
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: this happened to you, because I think if I've had
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: this happen, if you've had this happen as well and
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: something fell off about it, maybe it's maybe that's like
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: their go to. Like it's just they change the story
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: and say that when it really was a cryptid related death.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: You heard it here first, y'all, if anybody's had this
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: happen before, let us know. Okay, but go ahead. I'm sorry.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean interrupt you. This is good, this is
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: good stuff.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: This is why I do what I do right here,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: and just to let everybody know, I'm not currently I've
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: got the I've got the stream opening another monitor here,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: but I'm not actually looking at it. So if you've
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: got questions, I'll pull.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Them up for seeing me. Okay, I'm monitoring a chat.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: My eyes are all over the place, I know, right,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you're all, you're you're such a you're He's okay, y'all.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Cryptiville is also a moderator over here too, So thank
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you for thank you for your service.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: When it comes to that, try but don't I don't
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: always catch you.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: So, but I'm trying remember where I.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Was at talking about the drug overdose.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that in some instances that might
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: be used as a as a possible cover up story
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: or something of that nature. And I'm sifting through stories
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: that I can and can't talk about, by the way, okay,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: because you know, and this is something that we kind
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: of touched on a little bit earlier, you know, when
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: before the show I was talking about, you know, not
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of people have been on their show.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: You're a loose cannon Mark. I'm just kidding, Well, controversy.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I don't operate in the same realm that that's some
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: people do. I don't like bringing on I don't do
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of speculation. Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I can. I can speculate, I can throw out some
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: cool theories and and all that good stuff. I can
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: do that all day long and blow people's minds and
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: you know, this, that and the other. But you know,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: being able to back up what you're talking about and
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: to me has more value than anything. And then being
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: reliable with that information is is reliable and honest and
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: responsible with information is the the thing with me. You know.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I always say, everybody's got a price, right.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, right, Uh, I mean if we're talking billions, I
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: might have a price and I'm just kidding.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would take it. It would take
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: a billions or are taken the two to come up
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: with some of the stuff they are. Yeah, even then,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I would be like really really hesitant, because you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I pride myself on trying trying to do the right
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: thing and be honest, you know. And that's that's why,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: that's why I kind of get myself into trouble because
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: some people aren't just they're just not wired that way.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: And I understand that, but and and and I understand
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: that's just a difference in people.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And it's it's almost it's almost like a badge of
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: honor to go to the LBL.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Now it really is.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I think it always kind of has been. But you know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: it's a bad because there's there's a lot, I mean,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of stories that come out of there
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: now a lot. And uh, and I just just to
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: backtrack this a little bit because miss v Tech says
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: what year was the LBL incident? I think it was
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: supposed to be around nineteen eighty two.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I'll call my my response question, you know, And this
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: is something I always used to get in trouble for
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: growing up, was answering the question, uh, you know after
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: you know, later in life, I still getting in trouble
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: for this is answering a question with a question. My
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: question would be what incident? Which is which? Which incident
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: are you referring to? But if you're referring to this,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of them. If you're referring to the
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: eighty two massacre, supposedly is is what a lot of
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: people call it. I don't. I don't really I don't
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: really like that term myself. But because there's just there's
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: just no there's no other than Jan's story. You know,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: even Jan's story didn't get as gory and as graphic
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: as some people make it. You know, when you go
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: back and you look at it as it was originally released,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: you know, it was not as graphic as a lot
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: of people make it out to be.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Now, was it Jan that did the documentary with the
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: North American dog Man Project? Is that what you're referring to?
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, Because I had been given that target as a
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: remote viewing target, that massacre, and after I did it,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I actually contacted immediately the only person I knew outside
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: of Bob Grumpy that was, you know, the head of
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: one of my teams. They're one of my research buddies
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: that knew about dog Man. He was part of the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: American Doment Project. And I contacted Jody Cook and uh
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and Jody after I told him what I had done,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I got all this data and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: it looks like this family really was you know, unlive
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: there and you know, slight. It was horrible. And he
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: and he we talked a little bit back and forth,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and he sent me a documentary. Yeah, and that's what
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: you're referring to, right. That documentary was that Jan?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah? The okay, The lady in the documentary was Jan
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: she's the.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: One that I don't mean to interrupt you, but I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: think it was that Miss Vtach was actually saying, you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: know that she had heard that there was a people
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: that were in a convenience store that overheard the policeman
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: talking about what happened.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: She was supposedly that person.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: She was that person. That's what I was going to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: ask you.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, wow, yeah, she And you know, I've heard people
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: talk about, you know, well, of the gas station's not
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: there and blah blah blah. I've actually been to the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: location where the gas station was. It is no longer
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: there as a physical building. It just at this point
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: at when I was there, the awning for the over
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: the gas pumps was still there, but there was no building.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: So I knew that it was a gas station at
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: one point.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: There were signs.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, outside of that, you know, I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: don't I don't have anything else to go on as
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: far as that goes other than what she related.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: That's very interesting. That's interesting that you can you can
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: back up that that's there was a gas station there.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I mean that documentary that I saw that Jody sent
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: me back then. It's been about two or three years
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: now it made me a believer. Okay, well, I'd already
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: remote viewed it by that point. I remote viewed it,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and when I saw that, I was crying, like pretty
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: much the whole docum ery, because I was like, why,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I had already seen a lot of what had happened
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: there for remote viewing the family. But it was more
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: than that. It's not just that family. They actually document uh,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the fish, the fishing game fella who had the deathbed confession,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: who said that he had watched a couple get mauled
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: to death by a dog man while he was in
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: his boat and it was so shocking that he passed
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: out and he woke up. He was down the river,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: down the creek, and he woke up, but he couldn't
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: believe what he had seen.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: So, you know, me personally, I kind of have a
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: a tough time with the whole deathbed confession thing for
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: the simple fact that you know, you know, none of
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: us are getting any younger, and sooner or later you
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: get to the point where you just say, you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: to heck with it. You know, I'm gonna tell what
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: happened or whatever. And you know, I mean, it's unfortunate
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: that the fellow that was relating that incident that he
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: supposedly passed away a short time after that from the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: cancer that he had, and that was supposedly the whole
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: reasoning for his confession about what had happened. And you know,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: it seems I seem to recall hearing about that story
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: before that that documentary ever ever came out. And you know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: I can't validate that, you know that it's one hundred
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: percent true, but I did hear about about that story. Yeah,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: so it was an interesting aspect of the whole phenomenon.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's not just that too. There's also the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: hunters that have gone missing and have been found deceased
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: and things like that too, And there's just there's a
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: few stories out of there. And uh, I also I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: have heard stories. We don't have to get into it,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: but I've heard stories like Bigfoot and dog Man working
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: together out there like stuff that I've I think I've
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: only heard about that at the LBL. Actually, I don't
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: know there are big foots out there too, right, Yeah.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you beyond it, beyond that shadow
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: of it out that there are big Foot in the LBL.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And uh, but you know, and I've I've stated this
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: in my last interview. The two dog men that I saw,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: they weren't actually inside of the LBL. They were in
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: locations that were on on the edge of the lake,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: which is at that location that I was at. The
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: lake is probably under a mile wide at that point,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: so and it was it was not that far from it.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: So you know, and we've had if you look at
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: other organizations and websites, there are other accounts that have
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: come out of this area. So it does make it
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting, it does.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I heard, Oh, I don't mean interrupt. Can I ask
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you a question?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: A y okay?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Is it true that there are bigfoots in the north
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: and dogmen in the south or something?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: There?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: There's like gegraphical differences right like in one area is
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: where the bigfoots are in the other areas where the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: dogmen are known to be?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Is that true?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Or do they kind of commingle?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Okay? So I'm going to do this. This is where
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: I start the fires.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I just ask a Did I just ask a hot
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: question there? So I'm curious. I'm very because I hear
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: this all the time on other people's shows and stuffer
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I have. I mean I don't have time to watch
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of other shows, Okay, but I just remember
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: hearing that in the past. Let's just say so there is.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: There is a I'm trying to think of the best
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: way to put this, so there there are people who
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: frequent the LBL who may have released information that may
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: or may not be totally accurate. And I tell everybody,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: you know, this is the realm that I operate in.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: I tell people, and have told people for years, don't
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: believe what I have to say. If you want to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: know the truth, the best way to find out the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: truth is to find out for yourself by going to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: that place. And I understand some people are not either
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: in a position to do that, have no desire to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: do that, or too scared to do that, and or
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: may have other circumstances circumstances that might keep them from
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: doing that. And I understand that. But this goes back
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: to the thing that you were talking about in the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: show the other night or the other day. You have
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: to be careful about where you get your information from,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: because not everybody is doing real research and is not
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: putting out information because it's something that they that they
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: feel is important. That you should know, as a kind
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: of like a PSA or whatever. So you have to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: be very careful about the information that you get because
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: even even around some of the incidents that come out
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: of there or that have come out of that area,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: you know, without getting into great detail. And this is
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: once again, this is probably why people people don't want
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: to want to acknowledge the truth. But at the end
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: of the day, you can't. You can't. The truth is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: not going anywhere. It's still there no matter how much
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: you try to hide it. You know, and I get it,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: and and trust me, I'm not here to try to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: crush people. I'm not here to try to go against
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: anybody's credibility or anything like that. But you brought it
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: on yourself because you didn't tell the truth at the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: end of the day, and.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: It is getting juicy. It is getting juicy.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm not bound by the same things that you're
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: bound bound to. And if that causes you not to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: want to talk to me about the LBL or you
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: don't want me on your podcast, I'm fine with that.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: But if you had told the truth in the beginning,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't you wouldn't have to to hide behind lies.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: And there's there's no other way to put that. And
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, to answer your question,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: that whole thing of dog man in the north bigfoot
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: in the south, you might as well throw that out
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: the window with the dishwater, okay, because that's not true.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I'd always heard that, Okay, I thought maybe it was
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: a territorial thing, and it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Was like, you know, and and another thing now, and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I have witnessed this myself. There is an area that
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I researched in where there was there was a dog
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: man that lived in that area. There were also bigfoot
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: that that were in that area. Never did I see
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: them together. Never, never did they did they get into
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: the same It's it's like if the dog man came
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: into to an area, the bigfoot would leave, if the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: bigfoot moved into an area, the dog man would move in.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: They never were in the same area at the same time.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: And there was definitely no indication that they ever worked together.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm I'm not going to say that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: they don't or can't or wouldn't, but you know, I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: think that at the end of the day, I think
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: that it would would fall upon the whole origin question
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: as to whether or not they would work together. And
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: by origin question, I'm referring to are they a werewolf
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: or a dog man? And in saying that, I think
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: that if there was some some some intercommunication or working
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: together that was taking place, it is possible. And this,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: once again, this is my opinion. I don't think that
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: they would that Bigfoot would work where they werewolf, but
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: they may work with a dog man. And I say
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: that because of the origin and nature of it. You know,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: a dog man has always been a dog man. He's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: never gonna change. He's not human, he is what he is.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: But a werewolf was a human at one time until
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: they decided to, you know, utilize the forces that they're
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: using to convert themselves into a were wolf. And I
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: don't think that that the nature of that coincides with
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the nature of Bigfoot that would to me logically looking
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: at it, I don't think that they would jive together
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: too well. And that's my.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Opinion that makes that makes total sense to me. Jerry
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: has an interesting point here. He's talking about military weaponized
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: weaker versions of dog men that real dog men loved
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: tearing apart. Okay, well, I brought this commet up because
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about the military involvement or the weaponization
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: let's just say the weaponization of dog men or cryptids
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: in general. Okay. I through all of my research and
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: my remote viewing targets I've had, I believe that in
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: most of these national park I don't say a lot
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: of these national parks, I believe there could be some
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: kind of underground facility there or some kind of there's
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: some kind of connection. I mean, there are federal lands
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: right state and federal lands, and I do believe that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: there's some kind of connection there with the cryptids and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the and the government or our military potentially. What do
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: you think about that? Do you think there's some kind
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: of presence there in the LBL? Is that a loaded question?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: You don't have to answer that. I mean, I think
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: there is.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Personally, Well, I'm gonna I'm going to answer it like this,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: So you know, I think at one time there was
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: some talk. I forget what the actual numbers were, but
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: I think that somebody said there were like two thousand
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: plus different underground facilities that were one by militaries and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: governments around the world or in the US. I think
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: it was in the US. So knowing that, uh, if
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: that is true, it would stand the reason to me
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: that it's possible that there could be something over there.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think there could be. I don't know.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just mighty suspicious, you know that. You know,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I've done shows on like the potential there being like
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: a dog man breeding program and all that. People people
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: I've heard that people go out into the LBL on
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: they here what sounds like a garbage a garbage can
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: being dropped from the sky and like landing on the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: ground and like hearing these loud metallic noises, like scraping
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: sounds and stuff. Have you ever experienced that out there?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Like I mentioned in the beginning, You know, I lived
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: in this area for twenty seven years roughly. I've been
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: over there by myself a lot. I don't generally tend
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: to advertise when I go over there, and you know,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: even though I am careful about where I go and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: what I do, because you know, you have a lot
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: of different factors that you have to consider just just
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: being over there. You've got wildlife, You've got cryptids running around,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: you got crazy people, and all those different things to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: keep in the in the back of your mind and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: in the time that I've been over there, you know,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: and therefore several years I was spending a lot of
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: time over there, and in that time I have never
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: ever heard anything like that.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's interesting, and it's just it's just an
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: interesting thought.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: It would be interesting if I had, it would be
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: And that stuff has come out, you know, I do
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: keep it in the back of my mind when I'm
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: out and about, you know, to keep a keep that
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: as a something to be on the lookout for. Now.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: I do know that that, uh, there there is a
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: location over there where uh some bigfoots that live in
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: that area, in that particular area that they tend to
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: dumpster dive a lot, and uh, you know it, it
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: makes sense to me that they would make noise at
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: some point going in and out or you know, accessing
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: those dumpsters. So who knows. I mean, I'm not gonna
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: say it's not possible. But for all of the sounds
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: that you hear, you know, and this is the realm
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: once again, that I operate in. Unless you're hearing that
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: sound and you're seeing what's making that sound, you can't,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: no matter how much you hate it, you can't say
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: that it's this or that Now if I'm over there
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: and I see I'm walking through the woods and all
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, I see a metal door open up
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: out of the ground and out comes a dog man
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: or bigfoot, and then all of a sudden that door
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: starts closing, and when it closes it makes a big
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: metal sound, clanking sound. If I see that and experience that,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: then I can say, hey, this is what it is,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: you know. And at the end of the day, if
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: you're out in the woods and you just hear a
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: sound like that, you can all you can do with
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: that information is say, hey, this is what it sounded like,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: and you know the rest of it after that is speculation, exactly.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: And it's just like you were mentioning, like if you
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: take people out in the woods and I'm just gonna
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: say they're green, like green and green isn't like season researchers.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Let's just say I'd be green myself, okay. And uh,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: And I mean that by like kind of you know,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: everything's going to be a bigfoot. If you hear something
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: out there, everything's in bigfoot, right Or if you're even
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: if you're going out looking for UFOs, you look in
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the sky and something moves it's a UFO okay, and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: so you got to use your discernment to that for
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: that and uh and so yeah, you can't label everything.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: And I totally get that, one hundred percent get that.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: And also uh k a s I wanted to address
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: address this real quick. So they're no good were wolves,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: That's not true. I think there are some people that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: are probably good wear wolves. And I have people who
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: are probably watching the show right now who are were wolves.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: And I've been in contact with some of these people. Okay,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: so I think I don't think they're all bad. I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: mean some it depends on who you're talking to. Okay.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: There are people who haven't even had on my show
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: that think that were wolves are demonic and stuff. I mean,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: well people are demonic some people. Yeah, I mean had
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: some demons in my lifetime. I've actually meant a few.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, if you
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: if you support the the good versus evil, God versus devil,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: you know, perspective.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Of life, then.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the day, you know,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: if if you're if you're not living your life within
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: the confines of the the positive path. I'm just gonna
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: put it like that the positive path, then you are
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: living your life in the in the negative path.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's all relative.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: And where it gets interesting, that's what he's saying.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Where it gets gets really interesting is you know if
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: you if you look at like and one of the sections, well,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: uh and I've been thinking about this, uh as a
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: book topic, you know. Uh, not that I would ever
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: sell it, but I would definitely write it. But you know,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about the whole term the tale of Bigfoot, right,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: So Talo the dow, the dow, the towel.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, they said the tale I was like the Big
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Ones hotels, just kidding of.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: The tao If you look at things from from the
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Taoist perspective, you have to have an equal amount of
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: good and an equal amount of evil. And they operated
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: in yin yang fashion to keep balance the yang.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to know the dark to be able
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: to appreciate the light too.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and the you know the interesting thing about
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: that is, you know there are things within some of
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: the Asian countries, as some of us may or may
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: not know that that are acceptable because of the way
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: the Taoist perspective operates within that culture. So there's there's
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: things that are acceptable that may not be acceptable in
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: our culture, you know, like uh, shape shifting and you know,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: just different different concepts that that dealer with some of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: the things that we encounter. And you know, it doesn't
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: make them good, bad, or otherwise. It just makes them
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: what they are from. You know, from their perspective, They're
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: just operating within the realm that they understand. And I
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: would venture to say that it's not understood and accepted
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: very well with a lot of Western people.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I agree with that statement. Actually, something that
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you is I saw this
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: in the chat earlier tonight, and I think it was
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Don Maybe it was Don More, I'm not sure, but
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Don was asking talking about the gate being closed over there.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: He apparently has come to the LBO quite a bit,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: that he may live up there, I don't know. I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: think he went to bed already. I saw that comment too.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: I know it gets kind of laid over here, especially
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: if you live over on the East coast. But he
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: was I think it was him, and somebody was. He
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: was asking about the gates being closed out at the
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: LBL and and that's something that I encounter a lot
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: when we're out in the field of the areas of
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: high concentrations of cryptids. A lot of times the gates
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: will be closed and locked and we can't get there,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm always suspicious that it's, you know, for whatever
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: reason it has to do with the cryptids. But of
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: course I went to one of my spots today and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: there had been a massive control burned And now then
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: I knew why, Like last week, the gates that were
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: all closed, it was because they were burning everything. Okay,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: but but what do you think about that? Do you
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: think that do you ever get suspicious of like, if
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: there's a gate closed out there, is it for the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: public safety because of the dog men.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: Here's the interesting thing about the whole gate effective and
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of people may not realize this, but if
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: you go over to the land between the lace and
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: you ask anybody that works at any of the facilities
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: over there, they will tell you. And I've had them
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: tell me this because I've asked this question, you know,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: because I've run into that where there's been an area
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: that I wanted to go into that had a gate
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: across the road, and I wanted to know how to
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: navigate that whole scenario so I asked the question, and
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: they will tell you that for whatever reason, they may
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: have a road closed, and it could be the road
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: was flooded, or there's a tree across the road, or
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: and there's nowhere for you to turn around, so in
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: an effort to keep you from turning around in the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: middle of the road and making making a big mess
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the road, they'll just get it
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: off for whatever. But they will tell you that you
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: can go anywhere you want to go in the LBL
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: on foot, but your vehicle traffic is restricted in some
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: cases because of things like that. So and I'm not
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: going to say that I haven't come upon a gated
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: road or you know, something like that that that has
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: not caught my attention. I'm not going to say that.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: Because there there was a location that I went to
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: several years back, and as far as I knew, there
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: were no structures on the on the end of that point.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: But when I came in there, they had the road
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: gated off and they had a sign up on the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: gate that said that it was gated off because of
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: asbestos contamination in the vestos. Yeah. Wow, So you know,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: as far as I knew, I didn't. I didn't know
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: that there were any structures on that point, But it
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: turned out later on that there was a structure. There
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: was an old house, and that old house had you know,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: some of the materials that was constructed with had was
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: was asbestos. And they actually removed that house off of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: that point, and when they did, it tore up. But
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: they brought it through that gate and they brought it
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: out that road because it was a narrow road. I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: think they had to cut down a couple of trees
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: and that house tore down some size.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a big old mess. Yeah, could they
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: not just just they wanted to save the house and
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: like just move it somewhere. Was it historical or was
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: it just like she'd just you know, destroy it and
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: then making the wood out of there. Right.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Well, the whole thing with asbestos, and you may not
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: know this is I don't know anything about asbestos. Actually,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: if you go into that structure and you start it
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: is a big deal to get that, you know, secured
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: where it doesn't contaminate the area that it's in. If
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: you go in and just start demolishing it, that that
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: demolition will cause it to spread and then you'll have to,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: you know, shut down the area for real. So you
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: know there's different things like that, you know that have
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: that have caught my attention. And then you know the
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: big one is trees across roads and stuff like that.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: So and and I'm not going to say that they're haven't.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: There's not areas that have been shut down because of
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: strange things. But not everything is a is because there's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: a crypt in that part of.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: The woods, that's right. Well, like I said, I was,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, why why is the gate shut down
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: hardly all locked last week? And then I found out
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: it was because they were burning? Okay, they do control
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: burns a lot of times. It is maintenance. And you know,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: we've got what is it like the park rangers and
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: the Army Corps of Engineers and everybody out there. They're
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: out there to preserve that land. Okay. So that's that's
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: right right up right up the alley is to what
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: you were saying. Okay, they're just out there to preserve
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: preserve the area. As a matter of fact. Sometimes Oh
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Mark Mark Green's speaking of Green. We're just talking about
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Green Mark Mark Green, Hey, Mark is in the check
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: said some gates closed because of illegal dumping kids, tearing
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: up roads with Big four by forest plus stop harassing
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: animals during non hunting season. That's all very true and
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: very good points there.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we've we actually in the county that I
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: live in, which is actually part of the LBL, Our
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: County goes into the lbl we actually have had an
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: issue with people doing illegal dumping. And you know, you
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: don't you know how it is. People think, oh, well
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: it's a it's an uninhabited area and nobody's gonna catch
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: me or what have you. But I'm sure that there
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: are people that have gone in there and dumped stuff.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's evident from the stuff that's been
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: left over there. So that is a very valid That
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: is a very valid point that Mark makes there.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, litterbugs and I hate that. Yeah, my buddy Terry
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Wendell used to tell me that he would take a
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: garbage bag out to And I know, like illegal dumping
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: is more like mattresses and couches and tires and stuff.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: It's not just a candy wrapper. Yeah, Okay, We're talking
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: about like massive like office equipment and mostly right and
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, like cars, I don't know, just dumping stuff,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: probably not cars because those have serial numbers on them. Okay,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: but but nonetheless, it's just it's just humans are messy.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: They are messy, so so I totally get that. But uh,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: speaking of other stuff that we got out at the LBL,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: we have cemeteries, and I say we as though like
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: I live there or something. I don't live there.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: You you do, two hundred and sixty four of them?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Two hundred Well that's what Okay, William Nighthawk, who's in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: the chat, thank you for being here. William. It says
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: that there's over two hundred graveyards there and if I've
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: learned anything from all this research that I do, moot's
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: on the ground and otherwise all the other stuff, it's
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: cryptids are often seen around cemeteries, Okay, cemeteries. Well, well,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: what do you know about the cemeteries? And do you
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: think there's the relation to the cryptids at the LBU.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: You know, that's a that's a good question. And I've
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: thought about that, you know, numerous times through the years,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: and you know, I've tried to find possible explanations for
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: it because and I'll just tell you there's a there's
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: a place that I know of that is in an
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: area where there is a bigfoot that hangs out that
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: is a and what he'll he'll do. He will get
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: in a high point across the road from this small
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: family cemetery and he will just sit up there and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: he hangs out in that area. I don't know why.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense to me other than and
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: this is where this is where I show the level
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: that I think at. So we all know that to
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: understand the mysteries of the universe, we have to think
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: in frequency, vibration and energy energy. So and this is
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: a an interesting thing that I have thought of as
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: a as a possible explanation for why these things may
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: hang out in in cemeteries. And that is, you know,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: back in the old days, the the process of embalming
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: may or may not have been as prevalent as it
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: is now. And when a person passes away, you know,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: naturally there is going to be some level of residual
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: energy that resides with that person's remains. So, in saying that,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: I am and this is my opinion. Once again, I
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: think that these things, whatever they may be, I think
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: they can see things that we can't and they may
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: be able to see that residual energy, and that could
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: be why they hang around cemeteries. And that's one of
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: one of my ideas as far as why they may
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: It's almost like loosh a little bit, even though it's not.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: I don't you can't call that loush because it's not
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: living anymore. But this kind of the life force energy.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: If you said there's some residual energy off the bodies
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: out there, I mean, I've got, I got. I think
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: I got into this conversation. We were talking about the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Ohio grave digging dog men as well. And I'm not
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: sure if it was William Nighthawk that talked about that
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: with me, or maybe Eric who's in the chat Edie Testeraman.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can't remember who I was talking to about this.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: But they both have a podcast on Nighthawk High Strangeness
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: and the Bizarre and Unknown. If you guys want to
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: go check them out. I think they're gonna have a
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: podcast in the morning together, those two guys over at
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Nighthawk High Strangeness. But but but night. But William has
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: talked about the residual energy I think above above the
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: graveyards and uh and it probably does attract them, I
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: would think, but also like the spirits and the ghosts, right,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, if there's some lingering around over there. And
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: another thing that Williams Uh, you know, talked about a
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: good bit are the curses that have been placed on
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: the lands out there. Now that there was probably a
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: pretty heavy Native American presence there. That was probably land
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: that was occupied by many natives, right, and I would
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: assume it.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: Used to be Shawnee land Shawnee.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Interesting, Well, that may that may be why there's some
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: crypt activity as well. Maybe the land has been cursed
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: or blessed or cursed, depends on how you look at it.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Well in this particular area, and a lot of people
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: don't know this, but you know, when when the land
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: deal took place between the white settlers and the Shawnee,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: the Shawnee were deceived and led to believe that they
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: were getting something of great value in return for their land.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: And the way that I understand it, they were basically
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: informed how bad they were messed over in that deal
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: and we're not happy about it. And as a result, Uh,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: the story is that the medicine men of the tribe
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: put curses is probably the best way to describe it
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: on the land and you know what that entails. I'm
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: not fully aware, but it doesn't leave a lot of
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: room there for a lot of different things and would
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: explain some of the things that I've seen, because you know,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: it's not just big fun dog man. Now I'm not
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not in the business of, you know, you know,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: validating somebody else's evidence or information just because there's somebody
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: that I know or that I'm friends with, especially if
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there. But I can tell you now, there
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: was a video that was released by Barton Unteley that
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: was taken at a location and in that location there
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: is something that is basically looks like it's peeking around
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: a tree on one side and then it switches over
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: to the other side.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's on video.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looks kind of like a to me
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, you know, as far as what it
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: is actually, I don't know, but to me, it looks
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: like it could be a pale crawlers slash alien or
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: slash something of that nature. Now, before that event actually
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: took place at dusk, we were in that location and
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: I myself because where we were looking at it was
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: down a hill and then there was a in the woods.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: There was an old cut field that was there, and
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: I sat there and I kept seeing something dodging from
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: tree to tree, and I kept mentioning it to them.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: And you know, I've got this thing where when I'm
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: out in the woods, you know a lot of times
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: I might not say that I'm seeing something, but when
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: I do, usually people ignore me for whatever reason. I
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: don't know why. I guess that's why. I guess that's
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: why I I sometimes don't say anything. It is because,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: you know people, people tend to ignore that.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: So I would listen to you. You're pretty intuitive.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: That is something that I actually saw myself before that
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: video was shot. So you know, I'm not I'm all
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: I'm saying is this. I don't know what's in that video,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: but I was seeing something that was that that fit
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: that description, and I've watched it several times. It was
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: like darting, you know, like ten fifteen yards at a
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: time between the trees, making its way up to that
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: location where that video was shot. So, like I said,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: what it was, actually I don't know, but I know
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a dobement. It wasn't a bigfoot. That's not
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: what it looks like to me, Well, what had.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Happened was I had I had done seen that, y'all?
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: I could imagine the conversation after that, and they got
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: that on video. That's wild. It's actually really good. I
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: bet that felt good to get some confirmation though that
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you weren't you weren't crazy, You aren't that crazy?
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Right? Well, I don't. I don't really tend to opt
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: reading that that that confirm me. I don't don't require
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of confirmation. I feel you hear something. Usually
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: I know that I'm not seeing things, and then if
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: I have a question about it, usually I'll sit back
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: and say, you know, let's reproduce it, or can I
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: see it again? You know, I don't. I don't automatically
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: jump up and say this is what it was, or
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: what have you? You know? And that's I think that's
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: where a lot of people fail in the whole research
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: aspect is because they may see something and it may
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: just be a shadow of a tree from the sun
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: shifting in the sky, move a little bit, and they
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: may catch it out of their periphery and they may
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: see that and it and it may startle them and
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: they may think that there's something there. But you know,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: and and I'll tell you this. You know, one of
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: one of my sightings that I had, there was a
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: friend of mine that was working on a at the time,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: there was a friend of mine that was working on
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: a piece of property. He was digging a pond for
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: a gentleman and he had a track ho and he
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: was in there and he was scooping out that dirt
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: and doing his thing. And I don't know if you've
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: ever been around a track o or not, those things
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: are pretty loud. Oh yeah, yeah, you can actually hear that.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: You could hear that particular track ho about two miles
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: away when it was running last loud. Yeah. So I
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: had stopped by and it was me the property owner,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: and the owner of the construction company that was doing
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: the work, and my friend that was doing that was
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: actually running the equipment was down there, which I was
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: friends with all of them. And I stopped by and
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: we're standing up there, we're watching him work, and out
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: of the corner of my eye, I saw a movement
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: across the road in the tree line. And I looked
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, that was just the sun
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: hitting the side of a tree and that's what it
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: looked like at first. And I was standing there and
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: we're talking, and you know, he's working, and we're just
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: shooting the breeze. And about five minutes goes by and
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: I catch movement again, and I'm like, okay. So I
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: stand there and I'm like forcing myself to look at
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: that spot and because I want to see what this is,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: because when I'm looking at it, it looks just like
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: the sun and the shadows hitting the side of this great,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: big oak tree. And I'm standing there watching it, and
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm staring at it, and I'm like, go ahead, make
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: some kind of deceptive movement or whatever so I can
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: see what this is. And I'm standing there and I'm
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not you can believe me if you want to,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: you can't. You cannot believe me. I don't care. But
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: there was the biggest chewbacco looking now. This thing had
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of gray hair on it, and it looked
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: the coloration of it looked like an oak tree. And
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: if it hadn't ever moved, I never would have would
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: have seen it. And it took a step back, and
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: when it took a step back, there was a tree
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: behind it. And when it took that step back, I
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: saw its full silhouette, and this thing was huge, and
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: it looked straight up Chewbacca, but it, you know different.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: You know, Chebacca's kind of got like brown hair mixed
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: with dark brown hair. This thing had a lot of
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: gray in it. And when it took that step back,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: it's like it stepped back and it just disappeared. Now
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it physically disappeared. I'm just saying
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: that when it after it stopped moving, I could not
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: see it anymore. And that's just how good these things
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: can blend in. If they don't move, you're not gonna
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: see them. It's kind of like kind of like just
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: you know anything. So that was that was one of
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: the sightings that I had that was not very not
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: a very eventful sighting, but interesting.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: Nonetheless, I think it's fantastic. That's huge, So no pun intended.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's gigantic, and that's huge. I mean,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: and it looked like a Chewbacca type of a character there,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: and I mean you gotta think people that do, like
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: whoever made Star Wars, okay, like all these movies with this,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a soft disclosure. I mean,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: I think when they added Chewbacca to that lineup of
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: characters in those movies, I was just it was getting
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: us prepared for all the Bigfoot stuff. And I know
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: that by the time they made those movies, they'd already
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: had the Patty sighting, you know, back in nineteen sixty seven, right,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: that video. But they put things like that in movies,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: and it just seems so fantastical. It's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: well that's based off Patty. Well, I don't know. There's
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: thousands or millions of them all over the country, Okay,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: all over the world, there's many of them. And Nighthawk,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: William Knighthawk is in the chat right now, and so
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: is Eric. I was just talking about y'all. I know
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: y'all are in here listening to me talking about you.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: But but he said, yeah, that he's actually Shawnee as well,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Lakota and Shawnee and and so he said that he
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: dark dark medicineman. Okay, he is a medicinean have cursed
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: the land okay, cursed it and basically summoned some of
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: these creatures there, Okay, to protect that landmark.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: So I can believe it. Yeah, because I've seen a
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: myriad of things in and out of the vl that
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: that that have made by time here very interesting. Let's
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: just let's just say that, well, you're but you're.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Still walking around, You're still alive, nothings, nothing has hurt
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: you or taken you out, except maybe psychologically it might
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: have messed with you a little bit. I don't know,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: what do you what do you think like you've never
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: been physically harmed by any of them? And uh, And
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: that kind of goes against everything that we were taught.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: We hear about dog men and some of these creatures
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: out there. I mean, I'm still here too, I've been
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: I volunteered to be bait many times. Okay, and I'm
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: still here so far. I'm still here. But it kind
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: of goes against the things that we hear, that all
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: the sensationalism that we hear online.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Right Oh yeah, well, you know, and I'm not excuse me,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not above saying that there might not be circumstances
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: that could arise where there may be a young roguemail
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: or an older bigfoot that's not able to hunt or
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: fend for itself. You know, at the end of the day,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: whether they're interdimensional physical whatever they have to eat, and
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: if they're not, they're not able to take care of themselves,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: then you know it's going to be operating in the
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: realm of opportunity, and you know that's where bad things
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: happened to people, and you know it's unfortunate. But I
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: would say that it probably is or has happened in
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: the past.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I have I have a question. And then
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: we have this comment right here who somebody was just
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: asking if they about how tall I think it was.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: Leah was asking or no Jojo said how tall was it?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: And I think she's talking about the Chewbacca like creature
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: that you saw about how tall was it?
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: At the distance I was at, I would say that
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: it was. Was it at least eight foot tall? I
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: mean and it and it was.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: It was bulky, it had some girth to it. It
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: was a big it was a Migian. Okay, okay, So
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Sovereign cost Wildman made the statement. And I've talked about
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: this with Barry Littleton quite a bit, and we talk
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: about trees and trees being portals and he's saying they
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: shap shift into trees. Now this is getting into the
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: WU factor. Of course, And I am one hundred percent
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: wo Okay, everybody knows me. I'm as. I can go
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: either way, okay, but I'm super wo if need be,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: because that's what I've experienced in real life, y'all.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: And what are your thoughts on trees and the bigfoots?
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: Do you have any kind of opinion on that with
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: like trees being portals for instance, or even the sheep
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: shifting abilities of bigfoots.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: Well, you know I've heard that, and you know I'll
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: be the first advent I have seen orbs out in
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: the woods. You know, when I say orbs, I'm not
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: talking about dust specs. I'm talking about actual you know,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: illuminated lights, ball of light floating through the wood that
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: was not ball lightning or anything like that. And you
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: know it, it is is an interesting concept, and you know,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: I like to I like to think about it from
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: the perspective of because you know, if you look at
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: that and I hate to bring us up, but you know,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: you look at the movies that we we we come
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: into contact with, uh, you know, I agree. I think
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: some of this stuff is disclosure in a in an
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: altered form. It's it's like you know, telling telling us
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: what's really going on, without telling us or telling us
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: what they're gonna do, without actually saying, hey, we're going
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: to do this, because at the end of the day,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: you know, the reality of it is, it's kind of
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: like a unspoken spiritual rule from the dark side, if
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: you will, that they have to tell us what they're
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: going to do before they do it. Yeah. So with that,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I look at the what is that, uh,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: that movie that with the big tall blue people with
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: the long ponytails. Avatar, Yeah, Avatar. Now if you look
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: at that from the perspective of you know, what it
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: actually talks about. You know, up under that big tree
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: that was in the in the thing, you know, when
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: they went up under there, there was this masilium network
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: that was intertwined with all the plants and the roots
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: of the trees disclosure, and then you had these light
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: things that look kind of like butterflies that would float
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: down be spores.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe they were being Yeah, well I need to go
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: back and watch that movie. That was a good movie.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: So you know, I mean it all it all points
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: towards the same destination of of of what we're what
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: we're looking at and it's it's very interesting. But you know,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: have I seen seen an ORB flying to I guess
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: I guess what I what I'm looking at with the
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: whole thing is, you know, I operated in the in
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: in the realm of validation. You know, if I've seen it,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: if I saw a bigfoot turn into an ORB that
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: orb fly into a tree and and disappearance to the tree,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: then I could say that they're utilizing trees. And I'm
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: sure because I have heard that there are people that
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: have seen that. But in order for me myself to
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: say that, I would have to experience it myself, you know.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: And and and that's the the realm that I operate in.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: So I mean as far as as far as us
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: and the planet that we're on, you know, to me,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: it makes sense that there would be some kind of
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: a inter operation or uh communication at the minimum that
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: takes place, because you know, I mean they've already proven
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: they've already proven that trees communicate with each other, you know.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So to Musure the whole Maelium network, it's like
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: nature's Wi Fi, right, or some kind of network, maybe
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: not Wi Fi, but like a grid network communications.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: So it to me, it mays sense that that there
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: may be some validity to that. Now, the inner workings
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: of it, you know, I don't know how that that works,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: unless well, maybe that's not the right way to put it.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: I have speculated as to how that works, but I
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: have not been able to validate how that works. And
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: because of that, you know, I don't I don't feel
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: that I would do it justice to even talk about
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: it in any other details. That's saying that it's possible.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, and you know, from from that perspective, oh, I.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Totally get it. Absolutely. Now I can say from my
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: experience as far as being out in the field and
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: seeing orbs, we've seen a lot of orbs. I've seen
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: all sorts of different types of orbs. I actually just
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: saw that somebody had said, hey, Matthew delf and I
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: didn't see his comments, but he was in here earlier.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: And Matthew's got a really good video mark of the
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: orbs that shoot down from the sky in somebody's backyard
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: and they turn into gray aliens and they run around,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: and then they turn back into orbs again and they
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: shoot past the camera. Now, I've seen some weird stuff
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: in person, though that was a video that I saw
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: that Manton shows at some of the conferences we speak at.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of orbs, and there was one
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: night where I did. I was out in this field
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: that I researched sometimes and I was there was a
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: fella with me and he saw an orange orb shoot
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: through the trees, and then around the same time he
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: was looking that way and saw one. I saw one
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: as well. I saw just to me, it was more
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: like an orange flash of light and then I heard
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: a hoof, like real it was like a huff and
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: a growl at the same time. One hundred percent. I
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: do believe it was a bigfoot. Okay, but there was
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: a light. Now did I see the bigfoot turn? Did
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: I see the orb turn into a bigfoot? No, But
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: but it happened kind of simultaneously. It was really kind
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: of odd. It was really weird. It was almost like
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: it was manifesting or something to make that noise or
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been anything. I don't know,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: but uh, we turned on our flashlights because we were
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: making sure it wasn't a bear or something that was
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: about to charge at us, and there was nothing there.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: We didn't see anything. But uh, but have I ever
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: seen an ORB turn into a bigfoot? No, but I
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: have seen a video of orbs turning into aliens and
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: aliens turn into orbs. I have seen that. And uh.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: And like I said, Matt in the Chatter used he
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: was in the Chatter earlier, so he's got that video.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: So maybe one day he'll come on the show and
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: show that video. Maybe, but it would be, it would be.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: And and William says, what you call ghost lights we
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: know as spirit and elementals. Yeah, there's these lights that
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: we see out in the field and and the LBL
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: and all these national parks and even in our backyards
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: in our house. I had an ORB that came into
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: my tent one night Mark I was up in the
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: North Georgia Mountains and I was I was laying on
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: my cot trying to go to slate, trying to and
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: we were out in the field. I was with my team,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: and that there were we're at the spot that's really scary,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: so that we kind of put our tents a little
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: closer to each other. I don't I don't get too
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: far from the team out there. When I set my
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: tent up and and I was, I was laying on
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: my tent and I was just watching as this big
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: it was like a softball sized orb floated into my
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: tent through the material in my tent, and it just
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: it just kind of hovered over me for a little bit,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: and it looked like it was transparent. It looked like
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: the typical orb you see in a picture, like you
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: know when you take a picture and there's orbs in
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: your pictures. It looked like that, but it was bigger,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: and it just kind of sat there and it hovered
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: over me for a little bit, and then it floated out.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: And we have a video of it actually because we
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: keep the cameras around the camp while we're sleeping at night,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: and you can see the ORB coming out of my
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: tent and going in the tent beside mine, and so
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: it was in there checking them out too. After it
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: chakes me out. So what are orbs? Elemental spirits? Absolutely? Probably?
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: It seemed to be intelligent. It had some intelligence to it.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: So I'll tell you something kind of interesting that I
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: didn't realize. So I did an interview, one of the
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: few interviews that I've done with Barton Unteley. We were
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: at the LBL when we sat down and did that
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: interview and there's a gentleman that I hadn't talked to
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: that had had seen that interview, and I ran into
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: him in person at at the conference down there in Anniston,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: and I got to talking to him with my good
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: friend war Criminal seven, and we were talking to this
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: guy and he starts talking about that interview and he
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: was telling me that during that interview that he could
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: see these orbs fly down and in there, I was
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: kind of had my hands like this, like I've got
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: him right now, and he said that this orb came
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: down and it was like flying around my hands and
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: then it just kind of like trailed off and then
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: it was just flying around the area. And he thought
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: that that was very interesting, and I just I didn't.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't never I did. I didn't never realize that
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: that was picked up in that video. And once again
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: that goes to the to the back to the reasoning
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: why I don't really care for my picture to be
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: taken or to have video shot of myself is because
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: of an incident that actually happened. And I'll tell you
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: guys about this incident.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: If you want to hear it, please, I'd love to
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: hear so.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: So I'll be the first to say, I made no
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: claims to be anything other than me myself who I am,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: and that's how I roll. So during the time that
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: I knew jan Thompson h Halloween was approaching and she
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: contacted me and was like, Hey, the staff over at
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: the Land between the Lakes, they're gonna be putting on
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: these tours and uh, what they're gonna do is they're
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna take people around and they're gonna tell them,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: you know, supposed true scary stories of events that took
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: place at different locations in the l b L at night,
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna you know, spotlight and wildlife and this
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: and the other.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: That sounds scary, fun it was.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: It was very It was very interesting, very interesting. So
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: and anyways, she was like, I'm thinking about going and
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: she wanted to know if I wanted to go over
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: there and uh, basically not go with her, but be
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: on the same tour at the you know, the same
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: night that she was going to go. So it's like, yeah,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: I could do that. And uh So we get over
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: there and we go to this location and it's an
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: old home place and when you pull up it it's
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: kind of sits up on top of a hill and
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: out in front of this old home place. The old
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: home place is no longer there, but they have built
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: a cabin and put a cabin up there that they have.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: One of their workers stays in that cabin. Well. Out
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: in front of this cabin, there's a there's an old
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: picket fence, and there's a turnaround spot and it's growed up.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: We used to plant a garden there, and I think
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: there may even be a graveyard on the other side
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: of the fence. So we get out. Now, imagine, if
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: you will, there's like fifteen twenty people on this tour,
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: and we get out, and we're all standing around there
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: and they're telling us this story about whatever it was
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: that was happening there, and I'm kind of halfway paying
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: attention to the story. And I noticed that every time
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: I turned around to walk back in the direction of
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: the van that I was getting hit with, somebody was
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: taking pictures and they kept hitting me with the flash.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: That's what you thought, yeah, yea, So I'm like, wh
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: at first, I didn't pay too much at time, so
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So I just kind of blew it
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: off and didn't really say anything. So After about the
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: fourth or fifth time, I realized that it was jam
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: that was doing that, so I walked up to her. No,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't ever say anything to her. So she did
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: that about four or five times. So the tour ended,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: we went home, went on our way. Well, I got
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: to thinking about it, and I was like, you know,
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: that was kind of weird. So I'm just gonna ask
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: her about it the next time, and that I talked
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: to her. So I get to talking to her one
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: night and that came up and I asked her. I said, hey,
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: I said, I noticed that when we went on that tour,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: you kept hitting me with that flash. And she kind
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: of got quiet, and I said, was there a reason
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: why you were doing that? Because it just, you know,
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: it kind of aggravated me. After about the fourth or
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: fifth time. You know, you're it's dark out there, You're
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: trying to, you know, maintain your night vision, you know,
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: and you get hit with this you know, camera flash.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: So and she said, well, I wasn't gonna tell you
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: about this, but I guess I'm going to. And she said,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you something. So she sent me one
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: of those pictures that she took and in the picture.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: In the picture, it's me, full body me, and it
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: looks like I'm being swarmed not by one or two,
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: but thousands of orbs that I had no idea they
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: were there and I could not see them, but the
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: camera was picking them up, and there were other people
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: in the picture that there was nothing around them. It's
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: like they were gravitating around me.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: Well, that's weird. So it wasn't like there was like
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: just humidity and mist in the air and it was
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: little orbs of balls of water. No, it was different.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: It was it was very different.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: It was very different, and different enough that it caused
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: me to have no no picture, no video policy for
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: a long time.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: Uh does she catch you shape shifting? Is that what happened?
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but it's just, oh man, that's weird.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: That's really odd. That the fact that they the other
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: people didn't have them around them, but you had them
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: around you.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm not talking about I'm not talking about
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: five or six or even one hundred thousands. It looked
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: like I was being warned by honey bees.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you when you go out
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: in the field, like I'd like to, especially if I'm
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: going somewhere that has like a dark energy about it.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: I surround myself in the white light, and I always say,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: you know, prayers of protection before I go out, And
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: do you do that kind of do you do anything
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: like that, like for any kind of protection before you
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: go out?
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: Or I have I have? Yeah, So there's a a uh,
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: there's a it's it's pretty it's it's become more of
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: a routine to do that as of late because some
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: of the things that have been encountered, because I'll give
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: you a prime example. There's a location. I'm not gonna
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: tell you where it's at, but myself and my buddy
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: war Criminal, we went to this local and this is
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: in the LBO and we pulled up and I turned
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: my truck around, pointed my truck out because it was
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: kind of a dead end, and we got out of
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: the truck and we're talking and we're looking at this.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: There's an old trail that runs kind of along this
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: creek bottom. And he's talking about how interesting it looks
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: that there's an active trail right there in the middle
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: of nowhere where nobody appears to travel through there, you know,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: on foot, because it's a dead end road and all
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: that good stuff, and it's at that time it was
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: a fairly new road. So we were walking around. I'm like,
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: I walk over towards that trail, and before I get
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: to the trail, there is this sound and it is
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: like everywhere. When I heard it, it was everywhere.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: What kind of sound?
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: And it was a it was kind of like it
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: was a it was a growl that was like I
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: don't want you here, you need to go. And I
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: turned around. I'm telling the work of it. I'm like, hey, dude,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like. The first thing out of his mouth was
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: what the heck was that? So? Yeah? And he I
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: told him. I was like, well, I guarantee you it's
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: nothing that wants to you know, be friendly.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time to probably hie, tell it out of
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: there maybe.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I looked around. I didn't see anything.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: It wasn't anything moving. But as we were heading towards
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: the truck, he could hear it coming through the woods
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: and he said that every time it would make it
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: would make like this snorting, whistling sound, and it was
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: more of a whistle than a snort, but it was
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: kind of like it was like exhaling and it was
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: making a whistle at the end of the exhale and
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: we got in the truck, and you know, because we
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: were both unarmed at the time, we didn't want to
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: take any chances on it being, you know, something that
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: was like a wild hog or something like that. And uh, yeah,
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: we didn't stick around very long. And that was in
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: the middle of the daytime too, So.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: It does sound kind of like a hog or something.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you never know.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: You never especially up there where you guys are, if
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: you're in the If that happened in the LBL around area,
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: and there's no one knowing the history, I'd be real careful.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: How many hogs do you all have a lot of
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: hogs out there?
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: Usually? Well, I forget what the numbers are, but they've
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: they've been doing a an eradication effort and they they
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: have eradicated to a bunch let's just put it like that,
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: they have.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: Wow. Well, I was just curious because if they have
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: a bunch of hogs, that would be a perfect place
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: for bigfoots and dog men. I would think, you know,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: lots of resources, lots of food, lots of bacon, right, Yeah, Wow,
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: Well that that sounds pretty scary actually, it's kind of
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: I've not heard any noises that sound like that, uh
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: a whistling grunt or however you described it. I have
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: not really heard that.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I caught a little bit of it,
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: but I was more concerned with getting out of there myself. Yeah,
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: because you know, I the way that that sounded was
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: not normal. That that initial growl it was. It didn't
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: And what's weird about it? War criminals went back to
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: that afternoon and again in the middle of the night
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: to that same location. Nothing. Nothing at all.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: I've seen more criminals seven. I've seen him doing some videos.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: He likes to go in those cemeteries out there, doesn't
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: he out of the LBO he does like ghost box
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: sessions or takes his k two meters or something. I
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: think that was the last time I was checking out
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: because I you know, I follow him on Twitter and stuff.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: He may have a YouTube channel, but he's definitely got
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: not Twitter. TikTok my favorite trusted news source. I'm kidding,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: but uh, but yeah, I have. He goes out in
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: the LBL and he goes out there by himself. He'll
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: go to like abandoned cabins and stuff like whoa how
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: many abandoned homesteads are out there. They got a bunch
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: There is really the only ones that I know of
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: for the ones that Empire farm. And then there's the
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: old homeplace of the last man that lived in the LBL.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: Really sad story, one that you don't that you don't
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: hear a whole lot about. But and I'm not going
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: to recount it here because of the nature of it,
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: very very sad story. You know a lot of people think, oh, well,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: they just came in, The government came in and you know,
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: offered to buy these people's land, and then when they
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: wouldn't buy it, they just told them they were taking
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: it anyways. It was it was not all nice cut
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: and dry like that. It was brutal in some cases.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: Uh, that's that's horrible. And I've actually kind of covered
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit about how there's like an imminent domain
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: type of a thing where you know, even where they
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: put all these big lakes, these man made lakes and
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: stuff too. All over the country, especially in the South,
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: especially down here. That's really sad. People getting run off
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: their land. And there are people that did not want
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: I don't blame them, they didn't the poor family that
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: man didn't want leave, right.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: Well, and you and we wonder why this place is cursed, right.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: go it goes deep, and there's layers to.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: It, right Mark, Oh, yeah, it's the whole lot going on. Yeah.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: And so it's a it's let's just say, a breeding
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: ground for cryptids out there. And I'm not saying it's
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: part of the dog man breeding program. I don't mean
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: it like that. Yeah, it's uh, it's quite sad. But
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: the place, the Lambage for the Lakes, is absolutely beautiful
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: from the pictures that I've seen, and it's absolutely wonderful.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: And I don't see any reason not to go there,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: you know, especially during the day. I mean, would you
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: advise people to go camping there and take their families
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: and their kids there?
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: Ye? I mean the reality of the situation is this.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: You know, you run as much risk of running into
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: a cryptod at your home as you do out in
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: the LBL. I mean, it's just that's just the reality
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: of it. There is no safe place, that's true.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: Well, here's my next question, is that you live quite
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: close to the LBL, has anything ever followed you home
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about cryptids, I would have.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: To say probably and yes, And I say that because
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: of some of the things that I've I've experienced, you know,
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 2: I've you know, usually when that would happen, I would
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 2: take a break from going over there, and usually that
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: would kind of slow it down a little bit. But yeah,
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: I've I've had some some very interesting things happen. I've
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: I've had actually two sightings where I can say, beyond
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: the shadow of a doubt that it was a bigfoot
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: right here at the house.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: Were they looking in your windows and stuff or you
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: just you just saw them outside?
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: No, Well, the first the first time that I saw
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: what is actually these are two kind of kind of well,
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: actually the second story is kind of funny, but the
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: second one, well, the first one was so I was
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: working at night and I was off. I was working
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: third shift. I was off, and I didn't want it
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 2: because I was only off one night. I didn't want
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: to mess up my sleep schedule. So I just stayed
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: up and I was like, well, what am I gonna do?
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm going to clean and take the
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: garbage out and this that and the other. So around
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: one o'clock. I got ready to take the garbage out,
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: so I go outside take the you know, I got
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: the garbage in my hand, and I lift the lid
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: up on the can. I put the bag in the can,
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 2: I put the lid back on. But when I put
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 2: the lid back on, a glance across the end of
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 2: the backyard and there's a big foot standing there. And
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 2: as soon as I as soon as I saw it,
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: it kind of like stopped and was looking at me,
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: and I kind of moved like what I And I
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 2: was saying to myself, what in the heck is this?
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 2: And it wielled and when it wieled, it wheeled around
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: and it went straight into the woods. And I'm thinking
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: to myself, that was not a person, because a person
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have done that, because the last thing a person
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: is going to do is run straight for the woods
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night with no flashlight and
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: you know, run in the trees and what have you?
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: Trust me, I've been out there in the woods ado
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: the night, run, you know, trying to trying to move quick,
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 2: and it's not an easy task even.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: With night vision unless they are feral people. But you
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: don't want to think about feral people living in your backyard. Yeah,
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to bring that thought into your mind.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: No, well, I'm sure there's some pharaoh folks running around here.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I guess Bigfoot is not much better, is it?
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: Wow? Did okay, did you have any activity after that
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: after you saw it run off into the woods? Did
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: you ever see glowing eyes or hear whoops or anything?
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: Now, not in around that timeframe. So the next time
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: that something it was almost identical to that. It was. Actually,
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: it was not very late. It was like eight eight
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: forty five, nine o'clock. It was dark outside. The young
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: lady that lived next door, she was on her front
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: porch on the phone with her boyfriend. And I came
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: out and I've got a garbage back at a same
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: exact scenario. The only difference is when I put the
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 2: When I put the bag in, I saw it standing
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: there in the backyard, and it was in a slightly
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: different location. But when it turned and went back, it
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: made a beeline for the corner of the yard on
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: the other side of the other side of the house. Well, naturally,
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: I come in and I strap up, and I've got
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 2: a mag light, and I go outside because I'm thinking
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 2: it's you know, could be a person. To be sure,
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: I want to check it out. So I'm out there
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm at the fence and I'm shining my light
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: in the backyard and the gal next door she's still
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: on her front porch and she's like real snotty, she says.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: She says, what are you looking at? And I'm thinking myself.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 2: She only knew I'm thinking of myself. You know, she
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: thinks I'm out here because of her.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm your business, lady.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: I told her. I told her, I said, uh, well,
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: I just thought I saw somebody in my back in
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: the backyard, and I just wanted to check it out.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 2: And then she was her tune changed. She was like,
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: oh okay, and she got up and she went uh
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 2: out of the house.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: And locked the door.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: Hopefully probably.
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: You know, my feeling is that the bigfoots or whoever
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: whatever that was, they they were they were waiting for
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: you to dump that garbage in the garbage cancel. They
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: can come running through your garbage.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could be, could be. I mean, I've had
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: some I've had some interesting things happened through the years.
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm I'm I'm a pretty routine guy
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: unless I'm you know, camping or something like that. I
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: don't go out of routine during the week when I'm working.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: But when I break that routine, like if I if
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: I go over to they'll be able to meet somebody
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: do some research. And if I come back late sometimes
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: they they don't like that too much and usually they
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: will do something.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Cheryl Cope, thank you so much for
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: that super sticker. I appreciate you so much. I think
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: you might be in New Zealand. Oh my goodness. We
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: have a very international, worldwide crowd in here tonight. We
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: always do. We have an intergalactic crowd, and we have
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: a cryptid crowd too, and shape shifters everybody. We are
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: so all inclusive over here. Mark, you know how we
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: roll over here. Yeah, it's a great thing. This is amazing,
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: you know. And I don't know, have you had any
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: more problems with I say problems, Have you had any
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: more incidents with bigfoots or anything since that? I mean,
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: it seems to be just like every time you take
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: your garbage out, you're probably looking over your shoulder. At
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: this point, I would be, or I take my garbage
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: out during the day.
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I will. I will tell you there was one night. Now,
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: I'm actually in my office, my home office, and I
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: used to have my office set up in the living room.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: And I was sitting there one night and I was
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: messing around on the computer doing whatever. And I'm sitting
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 2: there and I hear I'm gonna do it on this.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 2: It's kind of the closest thing I hear. I don't
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: know if you can hear that, but I can hear.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: I actually hear something similar to that when I'm when
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving the woods. Sometimes it sounds like a metal
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: on glass and it's like ting ting ting like that,
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: And it's usually three when I'm leaving the woods. It's
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: either that or rocks clinging together, tink tink tink like that.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: As I'm walking out of.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: The woods, this distinctly sounded like fingernails on glass, like
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: tap tap tap. I was set there and I was like,
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't even pull the curtain. I didn't look. I
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm not even fooling with the whole night.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: Was something Pete tapping on your window?
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ge, there was something on the window in the
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: middle of the night. Oh my god. Now bear in
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 2: mind that window in your bedroom. No, that window overlooks
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: a fenced in dog yard.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: Oh god, where were your dogs at? Were the inside?
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah? They were inside? Okay, So after that we kind of,
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: I kind of adopted this thing where I don't let
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: them out by themselves at night, more so since another
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: incident that happened with my male dog. Yeah, I think
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: there was. I think there was possibly a female bigfoot
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: that was hanging around that had developed an affinity for him.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 2: And let's just say he disappeared for a little bit
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 2: one night and when he came back. When he came back,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: he stunked to high heaven and smelled like terrible, so bad.
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 1: What do you think happened?
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: I think she was ask I think she just picked
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 2: him up and was holding Oh my god.
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: And as you said that, my dog starts whining every
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: every time we ever talk about a dog. My dog
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: can't hear you because I have my earbuds in we
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: talk about a dog marks. Oh, audience probably has noticed this.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: If you guys noticed this, I noticed it. I gotta
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: give her a treat.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 2: She can hear. Even though you got your head earbuds on.
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you she can hear that. It is weird.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: It is really odd how that happens. The past few shows,
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: she's done that.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: Because I tell you.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: My dogs, if there's a rabbit out in the yard
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: and we're talking about a rabbit, they can be in
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 2: here and they can hear that rabbit walking across that yard.
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my dog can hear everything too. She's she's
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: a German shepherd. She hears everything. I had her out
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: at the in the woods today too. She went swimming.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 2: Mmm.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: You should have seen her. She's going crazy. She was
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: having a great time.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: But so you think the big Foot probably picked your dog?
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: You have little dogs, so it.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: Probably picked up that particular dog was a little dog.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 2: And he was my male dog that I told you
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 2: about here a while back. We sadly had to I
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: had to have him put down. Oh I'm so sorry.
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 2: And uh, he kind of if and I haven't mentioned this,
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: but if you look at Edi testament when he's got
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: his little white dog, now, yeah, it's let me just
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 2: put it like this. It is very hard for me
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: to watch him on live stream, especially when he has
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: his dog because his little dog looks so much like
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: my male dog did that It just it just gets
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: to me a little bit, you know, because you know,
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 2: I was you know, I was, I was bonded to
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: that dog. Let me just put it like that. And
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people may not understand that
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: and what I mean with that, But I guess the
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 2: only way I could describe it if you if you,
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: if you remember the whole. Uh. And I know this
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: is going to sound weird, but the whole A person
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 2: can combond with an animal outside of just it being
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: a pet. I guess what I'm trying to say.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: You know, It's like people too, Okay, It's like I.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: Could I could tell him something and he he would understand,
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 2: He would understand what I was trying to convey to him,
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: you know, above any other you know, because you know,
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: bear in mind I've got at the time, I had
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: two other dogs, you know, and they weren't so receptive
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: to me just put it like that. But him, uh,
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 2: he was a lot more receptive to me than they
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: are even to today.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: No, man, dogs got their own personalities, don't they. They've
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: all got their own personalities, just like people. Kind of
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: uh oh, see she hears us talking about her again. Dogs.
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: It is weird. It is really odd. But let's see. Yeah,
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: Eric's in the chat. He said he hates hearing that.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 2: Don't feel bad about it. It just it just is
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: is something you know, his he had a he had
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: a freak accident and uh, the result of that was
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: that we we had to have him put down. Very sad,
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: very I mean I was. I was very attached to
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: that dog. Let me just feel like that when he
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 2: came here, I was not ready for him to come here.
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: But he he forced his way.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: Let's just put it like that forced his way right
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: into your heart, didn't he? I know he did?
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: Uh? Mark?
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: Mark Green actually said this is an interesting comment too.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: He says, my bird dogs won't bark when the boogers
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: are around. They will be up in their doghouse. But
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: my house dogs will go crazy. Well, Mark, I would
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: think that that's because they want to keep quiet. I'm
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 1: surely they know that there's some boogers out there, but
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: probably for their own safety, they don't bark. I don't know,
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think? Mark?
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: Other? Mark, So I would say that, you know, I
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: think a lot of it just depends on the on
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: the dog, you know, because like these two, these two
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: female dogs that I have. Now, you know, I have
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: no doubt that the little the little one, which she's
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: a shitsu and she's about half mean as a snake.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: I have no doubt that she would she would, she
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 2: would bark at them. She will, she will bark at them.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: But my my other female, she's kind of quiet, and
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think she would she would bark at them.
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: And then I think it's a by dog kind of thing,
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: you know, because you know, I don't know that's that's
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of a hard thing to uh to answer.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: Would would you ever take your dogs out to the
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: l B L to go run around knowing that there's
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: some some bigger critters out there and stuff?
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 1: Have you taken your dogs with you?
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 2: I would not take them over there unless they were leased.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah I haven't. I know that have, but I personally haven't.
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, pets are better than some people. I agree
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 1: eighty six. Yeah they are for sure. But yeah, I'm
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: I would never take my dog if I was out
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: there doing research with my team. Ever, now I do
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 1: take her when I go I want to go hike
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: in and stuff. I do take her. She's my protection
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: first of all. But she she needs exercise too, just
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: as bad as I do. And so I take her
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: either knowing that there's bigfoots in the area. But I
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 1: think the bigfoot's probably stayed keep their distance, you know,
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: they keep their distance no matter what. But but you know,
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: I do worry that my dog if there was something
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 1: she knows I'm talking about her again. She if there
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: was something out there and she saw it it made
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: its presence known, she would probably chase it. Yeah, so
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: that's an issue too, right, So, yeah, we don't know.
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: We don't know what the big critters would do to
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: our little critters.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: You know. Well, I think a lot of that could
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: fall could possibly fall back on uh possibly on you know,
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: training or something like that, you know, which you know,
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: even though you know, I have seen dogs that have
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: been that have been trained, uh break their training whenever,
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 2: you know, something outside of the dorm happens.
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well we got to protect our little babies
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: and our big babies and stuff like that. Man, Well,
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 1: this has been a fantastic show tonight.
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be pushing three hours mark if we keep
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: going tonight, I could talk to you forever and uh,
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 1: and I want to. I guess we need to probably
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: save some some conversations for for next time, because I
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: hope you're going to come back and hang out with me. Yeah, okay, well,
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: thank you for having well, of course, I mean, boy,
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from you tonight. Actually, I've learned
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: a lot. I can relate to a lot of the
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: things that you've experienced and talked about tonight, and I
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: know are our chat can to We've got a got
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of boots on the ground researchers out here
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: and people I've been in the woods with and people
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to be in the woods with in
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: the future in the chat tonight, and and I do
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. I mean, I think it's important that we
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: get the real real deal about places like the LBL
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: from someone who's from there and uh, and not not
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: just believe all the hype all the time about everything
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: that goes on there from people who probably never even
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: been there. Okay.
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like I say, you know, I mean, if
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: you're if you're in the business of you know, telling
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: stories or you know, using AI generated content, or you know,
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: being a fictional writer or something like that. I get it.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: That's all fine, just all fine.
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 1: It's not we do though.
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's I think it's uh
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: unacceptable to pass that off as factual content, as some
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: choose to do, and that makes makes life for the
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: real researcher a little bit more difficult than it should be.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: He had does he had?
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: Does?
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: I don't subscribe to channels that do that for the
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: most part, I try not to. And uh, I know,
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about, and uh and it
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: gets to be like so it's just it makes you,
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 1: It makes you kind of wonder when you when you're
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: out there actually doing the research and you're interviewing people
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: all the time, like myself, interviewing people from all over
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: the world, all over the all over the country about
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 1: their experiences, and it doesn't always line up with so
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: many people getting attacked and mall to death all the
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: time and stuff like that. And I get it, I
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 1: know what you're saying. I'm just saying we're on the
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: same page with that. So uh yeah, if you want
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: the real deal, y'all, y'all go over to cryptoville dot com. Okay,
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 1: you actually do You still got your website up and
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: running right, Yeah.
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 2: I've still got my website up. It's a little bit
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: short on content at the moment. There there's some things
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 2: that I have as far as ideas I had to
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 2: figure out some technical stuff that you know, I wanted
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: to do to kind of make you know. I do
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: have a YouTube channel, but I'm not like like I said,
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not a podcaster and I'm not in the in
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: the in in the fictional story business. So it's been
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: a while since I've put anything up there. But there
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 2: is some content up there that is is good in
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 2: from some of it, I will tell you is cryptic
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 2: in nature. I don't come out and tell you exactly
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say. But the reason why I
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 2: do it that way is because I want for the
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 2: listener to think and try to form their own opinion
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 2: about that particular topic.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not telling people how to think how to think?
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: Do I say? Think? You ain't telling folks how to think.
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: You are presenting information and letting them make their own
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 1: opinions on it. And that's exactly what I like to
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: do as well. I'm not here to convince anybody at anything.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: But I will tell you my story and we can
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: make some jokes and talk about it and all that
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff, you know what I mean. It's like,
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not forcing anybody to believe what I believe. And
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think that you're a bad person for not
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: believing me. Okay, matter of fact, don't believe me. Okay, No,
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not even saying I'm right about anything
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: because I don't know about a lot of the stuff
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: that I even you know, So I just I can
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Mark, I appreciate you very much. And yeah,
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: so does free I. Freya said she appreciates she as well.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: She also appreciates all these treats that I keep trying
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: to feed her, so she'll keep them keep her barks quiet.
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 1: But but man, yeah, this is this has been awesome.
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 1: I actually did pull up your I didn't know if
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 1: you still you know, we're still using your website and stuff.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 1: I think I pulled it up here as cryptoville dot com. Okay,
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate you had actually featured a couple of
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: my videos on there, and I appreciate that from the
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 1: bottom of my heart. That was that made me feel good.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you, You're welcome. I'm planning on, like I said,
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 2: I'm planning on uh readdings some stuff to it and
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 2: making some changes to the to the site. So, like
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 2: I said, it's kind of low on content at the moment,
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: but hopefully I can get that switched around and uh
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: get some get some stuff up there so that you know,
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: people that are interested in real research is as as
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 2: opposed to you know. And when I say real research,
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: please don't take that as we're trying to take a
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 2: stab at somebody.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: Don't come at us, y'all, please, because you.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 2: Know, I mean, you know, hearing somebody's encounter story has
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 2: its has its own value, just the same as you
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: know a fictional story or you know, a folklore story
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: or something like that. You know, because at the end
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 2: of the day, all folk folklore it does have you know,
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that all folk folks folklore
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 2: is true, but it does have a basis in truth.
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 2: That's why, you know, stories get passed down through generations
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, each each aspect of the whole
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 2: thing has has its own value. And if you know,
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. People like to be scared
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 2: but that's just not my cup of tea because of
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, listening to a scary story. You know,
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, once you go go out in the field
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 2: and you encounter some of the things that I've encountered,
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, that's a scary story or that's a
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 2: scary movie. It's like it has zero effect on you.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like.
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 1: You're saying it, not me. That's funny. By the way, Eric,
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 1: it's tater logs, Okay, tater logs, not tater wedges. Tater logs. Okay, Marty,
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 1: y'all have tater logs up in Kentucky. I know y'all
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: do y'all have cater logs the stores and stuff?
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, chicken fingers.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 1: Chicken fingers and tater logs. Yes, Actually, you know it's funny.
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 1: Is like when I was living in Atlanta and I
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: went back to my hometown and there's a store. We
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: used to call it police. Police is gone now sorry,
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: police is police has called something else now. But it
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: was called police because a man that lived there, his
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 1: name was Police. He was a chicken farmer. And it's stunt.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: We had to hold our breath every time we'd ride
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: by his house because they had all these chicken houses.
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the smell would go all the way down to
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 1: our farm was down the road if the wind was blowing,
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: and if it was hot, Okay, it smelled horrible. But
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: but Polly had this store and I went into and
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: it got renovated at some point when I was in
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: college or high school or something, and uh went there
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: and on the on the door it had a sign
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 1: that said chicken fingers and tater logs. It was spelled
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 1: like that, and uh, and I'll never forget that because
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, God, they actually spell like how I speak.
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 1: And I took a picture of it. I think I
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 1: might have put it on like my MySpace page or
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: whatever the heck that was back then. I don't know
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: chicken fingers. So yeah, it's just it's just regional dialect, y'all.
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, but uh yeah, Kentucky stills, y'all are
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 1: still kind of southern, even though you're a little northern.
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 2: Right. Oh yeah, that's it's very southern here. We got
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 2: our own uh uh localisms.
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, Well, everybody knows me for chicken fingers
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 1: and haterlogs and Viena sausages. All right, so, yes, I
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: said it. I said it in nine minute.
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and then you get people like v
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 2: I further butcher it.
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 1: What do you do you say, Viena?
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 2: What do you say?
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: That's how my dad says it. Oh my god, you're
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: gonna make me crack up right now here, yanners, that's
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 1: what my dad says, vish. Oh man, that's a funny
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 1: way to end the show tonight. Y'all have your yingers.
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 1: You gotta put an earth at the end of a
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 1: lot of words, too, do you do you put an
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 1: s on the end of Walmart Walmarts? No, I don't
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 1: do that, okay, sorry, y'all.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: I had that.
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 1: Walmart's Kmart's all that stuff. We add we add it,
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 1: we make it plural, okay, And y'all, I actually have
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know this or not. Mark,
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. I have a
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 1: degree in English literature, by the way, Okay. We a
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 1: lot of language classes and English lit and English grammar.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 1: I know I know correct grammar, y'all. Okay, I do.
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 1: I promise I know how to say Vienna.
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 1: But she was not to she was to say it
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 1: my way less like me.
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I may not I may not look like it,
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 2: but I'm I'm pretty well educated. I'd like to think.
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 1: Ye right, we're pretty both pretty well educated, y'all.
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, but you know, it is what it is, you know,
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 2: being around the the people that I am, you know,
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 2: and and having you know, that's one of the things
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 2: that that they were real big on when I was
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 2: in the military was you know, I have one of
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 2: those rare jobs that even though even though I may
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 2: have been at a certain rank, you know, due to
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 2: the technical level of my job, you know, I could
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 2: I could override people have higher rank whenever it was
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 2: necessary to do so because of you know, expertise.
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Eric says he says Vinine.
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you say Vaina too.
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 2: Eric.
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 1: See, that's why I guess I gotta find my people.
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 1: I knew my people would come find me one day. Okay,
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: you just had to put it out there. That's that's
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 1: that's all about. If you're part of my Hunt club,
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 1: I got to you know, my membership on YouTube. I
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 1: talk about my personal life sometime, not not like super personal, okay,
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 1: but but I talk about stuff like that. And I
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 1: was always talking about how it's important for us all
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 1: to be our authentic selves and and stuff and and
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 1: that's embracing your dialects and whatever. You know, it's whatever
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 1: makes you you. And uh and I always always kind
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 1: of say, like, you know, you put yourself out there
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 1: and you be your your yourself, and your tribe will
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 1: find you. This is a perfect example, y'all. Okay, I'll
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 1: say Viena and everyone else who says Viena unite. Oh
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 1: my god. You know, it's getting late. That's why I'm
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 1: just talking crazy at this point about Viina is. I
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 1: don't know where, well, how I got into this.
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 2: It's late.
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 1: It's almost one in the morning over here where I live.
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, on that note, on the Viena note, Viena
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: people unite.
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so so you also have a YouTube channel
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 1: as well. Would you like for people to go over
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 1: there and subscribe. I think you're putting some new content
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 1: up and maybe doing some videos. Yeah, let me pull
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 1: it up. I made a banner for it. So yeah,
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 1: you guys go over to Crypteville on YouTube and h
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 1: and definitely give him a subscribe. Okay, and you've got
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 1: some great content there has of even today, You've got
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 1: some great stuff you put up there. And yeah, and
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 1: you just we just made a great video tonight too.
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 1: So so thank you so much for being here, Mark,
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 1: and thank you for having me. You're one of my
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 1: favorite people. Just so you know, you really are. I
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 1: always have a wonderful conversation with you. You keep it real, Okay,
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 1: you keep it real. I love people that keep it real.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 1: That's all I've asked for it.
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 2: Just keep it real, right, ain't other way to be?
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 1: I reckon not, I reckon not, I reckon not, I
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 1: reckon or I reckon. So right, Oh my gosh. Well, Well,
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 1: if anybody would like to get in touch with Mark,
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 1: I guess go through your website. And I mean, do
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 1: you do you ever do investigations like if somebody lived
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 1: around your area and had a had any kind of
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 1: critter thing that happened. I'm not trying to like put
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 1: you out there for people to contact you and stuff.
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 1: I know that's not how you how you roll usually,
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 1: but I'm just.
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm kinda I mean, if if anybody has anything
• 2:48:04
  Speaker 2: they want to, you know, share talk with me about
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 2: or whatever. They're more than welcome to to reach out.
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 2: I do have my my email address on my website,
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 2: which that's also I know we have you don't have
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 2: this information, but it's a cryptidvill at ProtonMail dot com
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 2: can get in touch with me through that. Uh. But yeah,
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean I don't. I don't per se
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 2: go out and you know, investigate if people are having
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 2: having encounters or whatever. But if you have questions, now,
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 2: I will say this. You know, I have heard individuals say, oh,
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 2: well you've got big foot or dog band coming around.
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 2: You just screwed. That is not the answer, so or
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 2: the correct answer. Ah, there are ways to get rid
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 2: of them. And you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm proof
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 2: of that because I have I have gone a pretty
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 2: good while now and and and not had any any experiences.
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 2: But it requires commitment, and it requires the desire to
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 2: not have experiences, you know, and to to relinquish that
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 2: avenue of approach from these things because you know, just
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 2: the fact that you want to experience it opens a
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 2: door for these things too, two to be in your
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 2: presence in whatever form they want to be. And uh,
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 2: you know, so Yeah. If if anybody has anything for me,
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 2: they're more than welcome to contact me. You know, I'm
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 2: not saying that I wouldn't go look into something if
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 2: it was close, but generally I don't. I don't do
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 2: that just because of the simple fact that, uh so
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 2: it's a time and you know, resource factor. I guess
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 2: you know. I'm I'm a I'm a pretty busy person.
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I feel you. I feel you on that too.
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a little bit busy myself. Oops, let
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 1: me get some more treats. I'm a little bit busy myself.
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 2: So I don't.
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of investigations except for but
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 1: if you do have anything like in the Southeastern region
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 1: in cryptid warfare.
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 1: I was talking to Drew Ski earlier today and and
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 1: he and I both we like to get out there
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 1: and I'll team up with them sometimes we'll go out
• 2:51:09
  Speaker 1: if you have like a dog man problem or something.
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 1: So but anyway, well, Mark, thank you so much for
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 1: being here tonight. Oh my god, this has been fun.
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 1: I have I have really, I've actually laughed a good
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 1: bit tonight too. That was a lot of fun. And
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 1: uh and uh, and I want to thank everybody who's
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 1: in the chat tonight. Oh my god, we had a
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: huge chat and it was going really fast. I'm sorry
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 1: if I didn't pull everybody's comment stuff and stuff tonight.
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 2: Y'all.
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot of work when the
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 1: chat's going that fast, y'all. So so thank y'all so
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 1: much for being here. I want to thank everybody who
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 1: gives superstickers tonight. Cheryl and Larry Sharp, thank you so
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 1: much for being here. And Jojo thank you for being
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 1: here too, and and so yeah, y'all. I hope everybody
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 1: learned a little something tonight, because I know I did.
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 1: And please be safe out there, everybody. Okay, please be
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: safe out there. You know, Mark, you said that you
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 1: would totally be okay, you know, taking kids and stuff
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 1: out there to LB all. I think it's I tell everybody,
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 1: don't not enjoy our national park.
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 2: Y'all.
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, please go out there. Just be aware, right Mark,
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 1: just be awhere? What could be out there?
• 2:52:17
  Speaker 2: You got to you gotta be be be aware of
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 2: your surroundings. And you know, you know, I mean just
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 2: because you're not in the shopping mall with your kids,
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you don't keep an eye on them,
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 2: because I mean, I mean, there there are things in
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 2: the LBO that they can that can hurt you for real.
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 2: You know, I've I've seen one mountain line and I'm
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 2: talking about a full grown mountain line myself here. And uh,
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 2: you know, anybody that tells you they're not here, I
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 2: wouldn't believe them.
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 1: Oh god, that's that's really scared, you know. And I
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 1: think that some of the cases that involve potential dog
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 1: man maulings, let's just say, I think some of those,
• 2:53:10
  Speaker 1: I think a good majority of them are probably big cats.
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 1: That's what I think, especially from remote viewing some of them.
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 1: I think that I was seeing I was definitely remote
• 2:53:19
  Speaker 1: viewing big cats. It wasn't a dog dog man. So
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 1: so please be careful, Please be careful, keep your head
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 1: on swivel, y'all. Okay, And uh yeah, Mark, I guess
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I don't know how I'm gonna Braby to
• 2:53:33
  Speaker 1: come back, but please do.
• 2:53:36
  Speaker 2: I definitely will. I've had to get the right combination,
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 2:53:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, the stars have to align, and they align today,
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness, y'all. I know it's it was a privilege
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 1: having you on tonight, and y'all, I wanted the audience
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 1: know I got a wonderful lineup of people coming on
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 1: next week too. I've got a full schedule next week
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: and it includes I think Terry Rounds coming on next
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 1: week and our Chemera will be here as well. It's
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be a great week, okay, I promise all that.
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 1: And so, okay, well, I guess that was a final
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 1: thought right there. We gotta everybody, please be careful, don't
• 2:54:12
  Speaker 1: be scared, don't live in fear, and I will see
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 1: you guys back here on Monday at one pm live.
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 1: So y'all come back and see me. All right, everybody
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 1: have a great night, and yeah, uh stay adventurous everybody, okay,
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 1: and uh close your curtains tonight and lock your doors, you,
• 2:54:33
  Speaker 1: especially you Mark, especially you listening for taps.
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're always pulled here.
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 1: Oh god, that is that's that's probably the worst thing
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 1: that you could ever have happened. I think it is
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 1: something looking at your window at night. But nonetheless, everybody,
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 1: y'all have a great night, and thank you so much
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 1: for being here. And I will see you guys back
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 1: here on Monday, all right. I have a good night.
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's it's
• 2:55:45
  Speaker 1: It's it's