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- 0:45Speaker 2: Usage and very pleasant. Good morning to you. You made
- 0:50Speaker 2: it for the weekend. It's Monday morning and this is
- 0:52Speaker 2: retire Right Radio. I'm Del Cooper. Thanks for tuning in
- 0:55Speaker 2: on this Monday morning. A little radiant spots as you're
- 0:58Speaker 2: coming into town this morning or headed out of town
- 1:00Speaker 2: to think on where you're going. It was rainy to
- 1:02Speaker 2: beat the band when I left the house and had
- 1:04Speaker 2: calmed down a little bit by the time I reached
- 1:06Speaker 2: the office here, so you might run into some spotty
- 1:08Speaker 2: rain this morning as well. Otherwise it's going to be
- 1:09Speaker 2: a little warmer today or warm again today as we
- 1:12Speaker 2: start to settle into some a little bit better weather,
- 1:15Speaker 2: hopefully in the in the near future. Joining me on
- 1:18Speaker 2: the road today is John Burdett from Fourth Avenue Financial
- 1:22Speaker 2: from parts unknown, so questioned away, John Burdett is with
- 1:25Speaker 2: us is warning Good morning, John, how are you doing
- 1:27Speaker 2: this morning?
- 1:28Speaker 3: I'm doing great. The weather forecast there sounded about like
- 1:32Speaker 3: here today and in Miami, so.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Little rainy and warm.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Little rainy and warm, and hopefully clear it up later.
- 1:42Speaker 2: We're hoping for the clear up here as well as
- 1:44Speaker 2: we come through the weekend. Things are going pretty well
- 1:46Speaker 2: for the most part though. And if you have any
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- 2:03Speaker 2: If you'd like to talk to John Bredett this morning
- 2:05Speaker 2: to help you in any way with your retirement planning
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- 2:26Speaker 2: first thing we always do when we start off our
- 2:28Speaker 2: Monday morning shows as we take a look back at
- 2:30Speaker 2: the week of the market, and I mean things are
- 2:32Speaker 2: choppy or you know, not that great from the broadline
- 2:37Speaker 2: right now, but again, this is this is opportunity. This
- 2:39Speaker 2: is what we talk about. You have to you have
- 2:41Speaker 2: to kind of hold firm.
- 2:44Speaker 3: Yeah, we're down across the board about ten percent on
- 2:49Speaker 3: the market averages, side market averages and and there again
- 2:54Speaker 3: that is not a what do you think about it?
- 2:56Speaker 3: It doesn't feel good, but it wasn't that long ago
- 3:00Speaker 3: we were at these levels and we were calling them
- 3:04Speaker 3: record highs. So you know, it's a little bit of
- 3:07Speaker 3: a breather. Everything right now seems to be tied to
- 3:13Speaker 3: oil prices and the direction that oil prices move. And
- 3:18Speaker 3: you know, anytime we get a little breathing room there
- 3:24Speaker 3: and the oil prices, the stocks tend to rebound pretty quickly,
- 3:27Speaker 3: and as soon as the oil spikes, the stocks go
- 3:30Speaker 3: the other direction. So that's that's really what's being traded
- 3:35Speaker 3: right now and how the market is behaving. You know, fundamentally,
- 3:41Speaker 3: most things are intact that were intact before before the
- 3:45Speaker 3: war began, and as far as economic strength and the
- 3:51Speaker 3: ability for Americans to keep consuming and spending as they
- 3:56Speaker 3: have been, all of those things are still still intact.
- 4:01Speaker 3: But the longer the oil prices remain elevated, the more
- 4:05Speaker 3: likely it is that that will start to creep in
- 4:08Speaker 3: in ways other than just gas prices, in in higher
- 4:11Speaker 3: cost which will be reflected in higher inflation.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Yeah, that's of course the concern that we have that's
- 4:20Speaker 2: coming up there, and it's it's it is amazing though
- 4:23Speaker 2: that I mean, it's it's really despite the background of
- 4:27Speaker 2: the things that's going on, you have no choice but
- 4:29Speaker 2: to kind of just understand the situation, understand these things
- 4:33Speaker 2: happen and that when you come through the other end.
- 4:36Speaker 2: We had some advisors on our afternoon show on Hotline
- 4:38Speaker 2: that we're talking about the marketing things last week, and
- 4:41Speaker 2: they made the point that, and of course they've Weekly
- 4:43Speaker 2: is huge into this thing these things too, and he's
- 4:45Speaker 2: always looking out of these types of things that it
- 4:47Speaker 2: seems like the market really wants to take off. But
- 4:50Speaker 2: it's the the like the stickiness of all the stuff
- 4:52Speaker 2: that's happening in the war that's that's really kind of depressing. Things.
- 4:55Speaker 2: We might have been in the middle of a little
- 4:57Speaker 2: bit of a rotation where maybe you know, the background
- 4:59Speaker 2: has been that the tech stocks some of them have
- 5:01Speaker 2: had some rougher times and so forth, But there might
- 5:03Speaker 2: be a healthy rotation underneath that. But it's just kind
- 5:06Speaker 2: of hard to to suss out any of those things
- 5:09Speaker 2: with all the noise from the war that's going on
- 5:11Speaker 2: right right.
- 5:12Speaker 3: You know. I think the you know, the hope for
- 5:16Speaker 3: everybody is that this doesn't go on for too many
- 5:20Speaker 3: more weeks and and things will get back to normal
- 5:25Speaker 3: relatively quickly. But those are unknowables and and but what
- 5:30Speaker 3: is what we do know is that one day you
- 5:32Speaker 3: will want to retire, and one day you will need
- 5:34Speaker 3: to have income and all of these things that we're
- 5:37Speaker 3: talking about right now. We'll fade into the backgrounds as
- 5:43Speaker 3: Tom moves along. And so you know, you have to
- 5:47Speaker 3: look at it. You know there are opportunities and in
- 5:50Speaker 3: this not just within the stock market potentially, but right
- 5:54Speaker 3: now interest rates have moved up. You know, if you
- 5:59Speaker 3: have fixed income, if you have cash on the sidelines,
- 6:02Speaker 3: it can be a great time to potentially look at
- 6:06Speaker 3: moving into some some various types of bonds that maybe
- 6:12Speaker 3: extend the duration or the lengths of the maturities for
- 6:16Speaker 3: a little bit longer to lock in some of those
- 6:20Speaker 3: higher rates. You know, rates and even treasury rates right
- 6:23Speaker 3: now are getting close to four and a half percent.
- 6:27Speaker 3: That has brought the corporate bond rates up. Investment grade
- 6:30Speaker 3: bonds going out four or five six years, you know,
- 6:33Speaker 3: you're able to get north to five percent on some
- 6:36Speaker 3: of those right now and lock those rates in. So
- 6:40Speaker 3: you know, there are opportunities out there that are created
- 6:43Speaker 3: by this that, depending on what your individual needs are,
- 6:47Speaker 3: might might actually you know, work well with what your
- 6:52Speaker 3: individual plans are and what you bring up.
- 6:55Speaker 2: There is a great thing and these are the types
- 6:57Speaker 2: of tools and the things that we talk about every
- 6:59Speaker 2: week here. You know that that interest rate environment, you know,
- 7:03Speaker 2: if you're on the end of things where you're home
- 7:05Speaker 2: shopping or something like that, sure higher interest rates could
- 7:08Speaker 2: be a detriment, but that means that the interest rate
- 7:10Speaker 2: environment overall is growing, and that means that there's opportunity
- 7:13Speaker 2: for other for other investments. So you have to look
- 7:15Speaker 2: at both sides of the coin there right right, and.
- 7:18Speaker 3: You know, if you can get you know, four and
- 7:20Speaker 3: a half five percent fixed on a portion of your
- 7:23Speaker 3: portfolio outside of the stock market, you know, then you
- 7:26Speaker 3: can leave the more volatile assets in the stock market
- 7:31Speaker 3: alone and not worry so much about them. You know,
- 7:34Speaker 3: if you have your short term needs met with some
- 7:36Speaker 3: of the fixed income that are now getting the the
- 7:39Speaker 3: a little bit higher rate, you know, you don't need
- 7:43Speaker 3: to necessarily rely immediately on the stock market money. You
- 7:47Speaker 3: can allow that to you know, give it time for recovery,
- 7:52Speaker 3: and then it puts you in the strong position of
- 7:56Speaker 3: being able to elect when to exit the market if
- 7:58Speaker 3: you have a proper allocate.
- 8:01Speaker 2: I'll take this time just always try to backfill some
- 8:04Speaker 2: stories that I find here and there about some things
- 8:05Speaker 2: that we've talked about in the past, and this morning
- 8:08Speaker 2: or this weekend, I ran across it really distressing conversation
- 8:12Speaker 2: that a college sophomore was having, And I guess this
- 8:19Speaker 2: is a thing that we're seeing more and more of
- 8:21Speaker 2: now where because of the like the robin Hood apps
- 8:24Speaker 2: and some of the memestock success limited success from a
- 8:28Speaker 2: couple of years ago, you got a whole class of
- 8:31Speaker 2: relatively young people that think that they can guess the
- 8:33Speaker 2: market and they can do some predicting things. And there's
- 8:37Speaker 2: kids that are out there that were young adults that
- 8:39Speaker 2: are out there that are playing with their college money.
- 8:41Speaker 2: They're playing with their money that's allowing them to stay
- 8:45Speaker 2: in school in order to quote unquote play the market.
- 8:48Speaker 2: And a lot of people are losing ton of money
- 8:50Speaker 2: because they're trying to guess what's going to happen, and
- 8:52Speaker 2: they're putting and they're making individual trades. And man, I
- 8:55Speaker 2: just can't stress enough that that is such a bad look,
- 8:58Speaker 2: a bad idea.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, certainly nobody knows
- 9:04Speaker 3: the future. And you know, what we do know is that,
- 9:10Speaker 3: you know, humans continue to want to better their lives
- 9:13Speaker 3: and innovate, and over time that they have successfully done
- 9:16Speaker 3: that as a whole, and that drives the market forward.
- 9:20Speaker 3: And if you believe in that process and that process
- 9:22Speaker 3: not being broken, then then you have to be a
- 9:24Speaker 3: believer long term in the market and the companies that
- 9:28Speaker 3: are doing that innovation and delivering those products and solving
- 9:32Speaker 3: those problems. But some of the things that are going on,
- 9:37Speaker 3: like you say, with these with these apps and the
- 9:39Speaker 3: online gambling, and it becomes a gamification of finance, and
- 9:48Speaker 3: that can be very dangerous because that is the exact
- 9:52Speaker 3: opposite of what you know, we've talked about this before.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Gambling and investing are two different things. You know, both
- 10:00Speaker 3: have something to do with the future and the future outcomes.
- 10:03Speaker 3: But one is a is a win or lose. You know,
- 10:08Speaker 3: for to win, somebody has to lose. In gambling. That's
- 10:13Speaker 3: not the case in the stock market. You know, the
- 10:16Speaker 3: pie gets bigger, it's not the same money being divided
- 10:19Speaker 3: up in the house taking their share. The pie gets
- 10:23Speaker 3: bigger when companies are successful and everyone benefits. So it's
- 10:28Speaker 3: a it's a different type of concept and it's one
- 10:31Speaker 3: that I I do worry that some younger folks, not
- 10:36Speaker 3: just younger folks, but but you know, people that are
- 10:40Speaker 3: being exposed to all these online prediction markets and gambling,
- 10:45Speaker 3: you know, confuse that with true investing.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it seems that that is happening. And
- 10:53Speaker 2: I think just this morning there was you know what,
- 10:56Speaker 2: some of these vetters are starting to get more suits
- 10:58Speaker 2: that are foul against them for like the microtransactions, for
- 11:01Speaker 2: like the instant bets. Hey is this guy going to
- 11:02Speaker 2: get a hit this at bat or whatever it might be.
- 11:04Speaker 2: There's a lot of, uh, there's a lot of questions
- 11:07Speaker 2: coming up about that because like you talk about, i mean,
- 11:10Speaker 2: going into the the holistic uh, financial security. If you're
- 11:15Speaker 2: constantly getting pushed notifications is like bet on this, bet
- 11:17Speaker 2: on this, bet on this, bet on this. I mean,
- 11:19Speaker 2: if you're somebody that that that does that even as
- 11:21Speaker 2: a you know, form of entertainment, you try to keep
- 11:23Speaker 2: it within budget, that eventually can push you over the line.
- 11:27Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and and and it can take something like
- 11:31Speaker 3: that that is that it's certainly not investing and and
- 11:35Speaker 3: the because investing seems similar, it confuses the two. And
- 11:41Speaker 3: that's that's a real danger because then you're never going
- 11:44Speaker 3: to put yourself on a solid financial foundation because you're
- 11:47Speaker 3: treating it, you know, like some sort of a gambling
- 11:51Speaker 3: game versus long term investing, working towards goals, allocating you know,
- 11:57Speaker 3: money according to what your goals are. That's a whole
- 12:01Speaker 3: different that's a whole different thing. And like say, more
- 12:06Speaker 3: and more you're seeing particular younger folks, you know, fall
- 12:10Speaker 3: victim of that.
- 12:12Speaker 2: It's great information as always with johenbre Debt for fourth Avenue. Financially,
- 12:15Speaker 2: you can get in on the conversation as well today
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- 12:24Speaker 2: through five five zeros or eight. One of the things
- 12:26Speaker 2: kind of backtracking just a little bit to your trip
- 12:29Speaker 2: in Florida for this week. And you know, one of
- 12:32Speaker 2: the things when you go to other states, and Florida
- 12:33Speaker 2: is a great example of this, you see a lot
- 12:35Speaker 2: of things that, you know, states that struggle a little
- 12:38Speaker 2: bit more with some infrastructure, things like West Virginia, you
- 12:40Speaker 2: don't necessarily see a lot of For example, I've been
- 12:44Speaker 2: to Florida a bit recently. Every road is nice, you know,
- 12:47Speaker 2: there's a very I didn't ran across any roads with
- 12:51Speaker 2: tons of potholes and tons of seams in the roads
- 12:53Speaker 2: popping them stuff like that. The roads are really smooth
- 12:55Speaker 2: and they're really nice and it's easy to drive on.
- 12:58Speaker 2: And it's areas like that that's relatively flat and with
- 13:00Speaker 2: nice roads that things like the rebo taxi services and
- 13:04Speaker 2: the automatic drivers and the AI driving and stuff like
- 13:07Speaker 2: that are getting us on to first because they're easier
- 13:09Speaker 2: to navigate than you know, a place like West Virginia
- 13:11Speaker 2: or something like that. So you're seeing some of that
- 13:12Speaker 2: stuff down there.
- 13:14Speaker 3: Yes, we were out and about, and I'm down here
- 13:18Speaker 3: in Florida for a few days for a conference. So
- 13:23Speaker 3: it is fun. But it's not all fun in games.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Just so everyone knows alloud.
- 13:28Speaker 2: To have fun, that's all right.
- 13:31Speaker 3: But yes, the first thing we saw when we went
- 13:37Speaker 3: out are these little buggy like robots that have little
- 13:43Speaker 3: eyeball headlights on them, and you know, it's like auto
- 13:50Speaker 3: door dashers that bring food to you. I was reading
- 13:55Speaker 3: up on them, and they can travel about one and
- 13:58Speaker 3: a quarter miles bring you your food, and they you know,
- 14:04Speaker 3: drive down the sidewalk with people and they obey the traffic, uh,
- 14:10Speaker 3: you know, signals and the crosswalks and all of all
- 14:13Speaker 3: of that, and you know, it's pretty incredible when you
- 14:17Speaker 3: see them just zipping down the sidewalk and you're thinking,
- 14:21Speaker 3: you know, this is like the Jetsons.
- 14:24Speaker 2: It is And I've seen some videos of this, and
- 14:27Speaker 2: as this is becoming more and more prevalent, one of
- 14:29Speaker 2: the things that cracks me up is some of the
- 14:30Speaker 2: things that that you know, it's maybe you think of,
- 14:35Speaker 2: but you don't know exactly how it's going to play.
- 14:36Speaker 2: For example, you know, a little robot traveling down the
- 14:39Speaker 2: road with like a sack full of groceries or food. Yeah,
- 14:42Speaker 2: dogs take a little interest in that sometimes.
- 14:46Speaker 3: Well, well I don't know about dogs. You know they
- 14:49Speaker 3: are they are enclosed, and you know, they're actually locked
- 14:52Speaker 3: up in an enclosure and you know, you don't know
- 14:56Speaker 3: what's inside of it. And the person that orders that
- 15:00Speaker 3: from their phone can unlock it when it's delivered, so
- 15:03Speaker 3: it's a locked capsule the you know that's on this
- 15:06Speaker 3: buggy that goes. But one of the things that the
- 15:10Speaker 3: main impediment that that that I saw are the onlookers
- 15:15Speaker 3: that step in its path, which makes it stop just
- 15:19Speaker 3: so they can get pictures of it. So so right now,
- 15:25Speaker 3: the only thing that I think is keeping it from
- 15:29Speaker 3: you know, delivering efficiently are all the onlookers, which I
- 15:33Speaker 3: assume will overtime fade.
- 15:38Speaker 2: It's uh, I've seen some videos that may not It's
- 15:40Speaker 2: probably not the smell of the food. I've just seen
- 15:42Speaker 2: some videos of animals chasing those things and like being
- 15:47Speaker 2: slightly offline and like crashing through like a like a
- 15:51Speaker 2: advertisement that somebody put out on the sidewalk or something
- 15:54Speaker 2: like a sandwich port or something that they like. There's
- 15:56Speaker 2: some of this stuff, and it's all growing pains, you know.
- 15:58Speaker 2: I mean, you expect some of this stuff to up
- 16:00Speaker 2: at first when we start seeing these things, but I
- 16:01Speaker 2: don't think there's any question in ten years that that
- 16:04Speaker 2: if you want various things delivered to you, not only
- 16:08Speaker 2: food or groceries, but probably widgets and items and different
- 16:10Speaker 2: things like that, we're going to have our little robot
- 16:12Speaker 2: helpers that we either have ourselves at go and get
- 16:14Speaker 2: them where they're going to be dispatched from Walmart or
- 16:17Speaker 2: wherever it is.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Well, and not only that, but you were your cars
- 16:21Speaker 3: are going to be dispatched that way too, we've seen
- 16:24Speaker 3: a couple of way Moo vehicles. They are just now
- 16:28Speaker 3: rolling it out here in the Miami area. And I
- 16:34Speaker 3: talked to a guy here at the conference that took
- 16:39Speaker 3: a trip on one, and of course he had video
- 16:42Speaker 3: of it, you know, driving. But yesterday we took an
- 16:47Speaker 3: Uber to another part of town and we passed the
- 16:53Speaker 3: Uber driver passed away mow and a cut in front
- 16:59Speaker 3: of it, all close. I think he was trying to
- 17:02Speaker 3: trying to test it in I was like, don't test
- 17:05Speaker 3: it with us in the car. But but but sure enough,
- 17:11Speaker 3: you know, there was a passenger in the front seat.
- 17:13Speaker 3: The car was driving itself and performing very well. I
- 17:17Speaker 3: mean it it didn't you know, if you didn't see
- 17:21Speaker 3: the cameras and the and the things on the car,
- 17:26Speaker 3: the way it was driving, you wouldn't have thought that
- 17:28Speaker 3: it was autonomous at all. I mean, it was just
- 17:30Speaker 3: another car on the road. And and as that, as
- 17:35Speaker 3: that rolls out across the nation, I mean, you're going
- 17:37Speaker 3: to see a lot of big changes like that in
- 17:41Speaker 3: the next handful of years.
- 17:42Speaker 2: I think one thing that I read this weekend that
- 17:45Speaker 2: has been living written free in my head. It was
- 17:47Speaker 2: an essay that it was a futuristaff essay on It
- 17:49Speaker 2: took a couple different industries and was looking at various
- 17:52Speaker 2: different ways it could go. You know, it wasn't negative,
- 17:55Speaker 2: it wasn'tdystopian or anything. It was just going through some
- 17:57Speaker 2: of the different ways that we could find industries that
- 17:59Speaker 2: unfold and stuff like that. And one of the things
- 18:00Speaker 2: I found interesting about cars, And this wasn't a prediction,
- 18:02Speaker 2: It was just like, what if this happened, then this
- 18:04Speaker 2: is one of the routes that could go down the
- 18:06Speaker 2: way everything is trending these days, we may not be
- 18:08Speaker 2: that far away from not even owning our vehicles. We
- 18:10Speaker 2: just rent a service for vehicles, you know, like we
- 18:12Speaker 2: don't own anything anymore. We just rent everything. So when
- 18:15Speaker 2: you need a car, you either have like a scheduled
- 18:17Speaker 2: arrangement to come pick you up in the mornings and
- 18:19Speaker 2: you take that to your work. If you need a car,
- 18:21Speaker 2: you can you can call one and it's just moments
- 18:23Speaker 2: away and they'll be automatically driven and things like that.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Nobody will have a need to own a car anymore
- 18:27Speaker 2: because we'll just have subscription services to your favorite car
- 18:30Speaker 2: providing service. And I don't I mean, maybe it sounds
- 18:34Speaker 2: kind of nice not to have to worry about the car.
- 18:35Speaker 2: But man, that just seems so different from the car
- 18:37Speaker 2: culture that we're used to here in the country.
- 18:41Speaker 3: Yes, I you know what will make that transition happen
- 18:45Speaker 3: willingly will be economics. Yeah, you know, if it turns
- 18:48Speaker 3: out that you know, if you think about the expense
- 18:52Speaker 3: of a car and the maintenance and the fuel and
- 18:57Speaker 3: everything that goes in a car. You know, a person
- 19:01Speaker 3: might be spending six eight hundred dollars or more a
- 19:04Speaker 3: month on that. And what if you can get that
- 19:08Speaker 3: get that car service for half of that a third
- 19:12Speaker 3: of that. You know, at some point it becomes just
- 19:18Speaker 3: almost an economic reality that that that that switch happens. So,
- 19:24Speaker 3: you know, I don't know where that's headed either, but
- 19:27Speaker 3: but you know, I think the I think really the
- 19:31Speaker 3: barrier at this point is more of the psychological barrier
- 19:36Speaker 3: of getting in that car. Yeah, and just you know,
- 19:41Speaker 3: feeling comfortable that it that it will you know, execute
- 19:46Speaker 3: properly and once that barrier is surpassed, I mean, I
- 19:49Speaker 3: do think it will just because of economics be a
- 19:55Speaker 3: be a big savor. The guy told me that the
- 19:57Speaker 3: that the way mo you know, it's way cheaper than
- 20:01Speaker 3: an uber because there's no driver to pay.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well yeah, I guess that's true.
- 20:08Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to tip a way moo. So
- 20:15Speaker 3: you know, and what will that mean? That will mean
- 20:18Speaker 3: it's just in the way people work and where people work,
- 20:21Speaker 3: and it's just you know, it's just like any other
- 20:24Speaker 3: technological advance. It will certainly disrupt the way we're used
- 20:30Speaker 3: to things being, but it wouldn't change if people didn't
- 20:34Speaker 3: vote with their dollars.
- 20:36Speaker 2: You bring up so many great points there, and kind
- 20:38Speaker 2: of the living organism that our economy often is. It's
- 20:41Speaker 2: really hard to see some of these dominos. Sometimes you
- 20:44Speaker 2: just said something there that triggered me. This might be
- 20:45Speaker 2: a very small thing, but it could be a major
- 20:47Speaker 2: thing when you play it out over the course of years.
- 20:50Speaker 2: For example, the way that fast food prices have come
- 20:53Speaker 2: up over the years, and the way that fast casual
- 20:56Speaker 2: restaurants have previously stayed into the conversation by lowering you
- 21:00Speaker 2: get into a conversation, you get into a situation. Now.
- 21:03Speaker 2: My wife and I, for example, had a pretty nice
- 21:05Speaker 2: dinner from Chili's this past weekend that we ended up
- 21:07Speaker 2: getting We ended up getting delivered to us and I
- 21:10Speaker 2: made the note after we got it. It was three meals
- 21:12Speaker 2: that we had delivered to us for me, my daughter,
- 21:13Speaker 2: and my wife that the actual cost of the meals
- 21:16Speaker 2: that we got from there, which were full three course
- 21:19Speaker 2: meals from Chili's on there. Whatever it was, it was
- 21:21Speaker 2: actually cheaper than the last receipt that we got that
- 21:24Speaker 2: we went to fast food. The only thing that made
- 21:27Speaker 2: it more expensive was the delivery fee and the tip.
- 21:29Speaker 2: If it wasn't for the delivery fee and the tip,
- 21:31Speaker 2: then it actually would have been about the same price
- 21:33Speaker 2: or a little bit cheaper. And I was thinking, and
- 21:35Speaker 2: when you just now said that, you know you don't
- 21:37Speaker 2: have to worry about it tip and stuff with it, Well,
- 21:39Speaker 2: that could for something just as simple as the as
- 21:42Speaker 2: the food industry like that, that could really change things
- 21:45Speaker 2: because suddenly you don't have that barrier of extra cost
- 21:49Speaker 2: that's laid on top of it. And that's what that
- 21:51Speaker 2: would reshuffle things yet again, right.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Right, So you know, like you say, the way we
- 21:58Speaker 3: do things over the last hundred years have certainly changed,
- 22:02Speaker 3: and over the next hundred years, you know it's it's
- 22:04Speaker 3: going to continue to change. And and generally what wins
- 22:09Speaker 3: that and what shapes that is innovation and being able
- 22:15Speaker 3: to deliver goods and services to folks in a way
- 22:18Speaker 3: that that you know, obviously, things don't always have to
- 22:22Speaker 3: be the cheapest to win, you know, look at it.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Look at an iPhone, an iPhone, it's not the cheapest,
- 22:27Speaker 3: but it you know, it is one nonetheless, but it
- 22:32Speaker 3: has to be a service at a price that people
- 22:37Speaker 3: collectively support or it wouldn't change in that direction. So
- 22:40Speaker 3: anytime you see a disruptive change, you know, the news
- 22:44Speaker 3: always looks at the negative about the change and the
- 22:48Speaker 3: disruptions and the jobs, but it's the people that have
- 22:53Speaker 3: chosen that, not the technology itself.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. John Berdet with Fourth Avenue Financial,
- 23:00Speaker 2: I tell you what, We've got a couple of text
- 23:01Speaker 2: messages in. Let's get one of them out now, we'll
- 23:03Speaker 2: take a break. We'll come back and address with the
- 23:05Speaker 2: other one. The first text messages we got in this morning.
- 23:06Speaker 2: If you want to get involved, you can do that
- 23:08Speaker 2: as well. You can send us a text at three
- 23:10Speaker 2: zero of four non three five five zeros zero eight
- 23:12Speaker 2: threes are four non three five five zeros or eight
- 23:14Speaker 2: Still time to call in as well if you'd like
- 23:15Speaker 2: to threes are four three four five fifty eight fifty
- 23:17Speaker 2: eight text message from the three zero four five to
- 23:19Speaker 2: seven two oil just head over one hundred dollars barrel
- 23:21Speaker 2: again and my four oh one K dropped almost eight
- 23:23Speaker 2: thousand dollars last week. Should I be moving money out
- 23:26Speaker 2: of stocks right now or just sit tight? We kind
- 23:29Speaker 2: of talked about that, but.
- 23:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there again, I don't want to answer
- 23:34Speaker 3: this directly because I don't know anything about the individual
- 23:38Speaker 3: and the tom horizon, that sort of thing. If you're
- 23:41Speaker 3: not utilizing the money for income currently and you're a
- 23:46Speaker 3: few years off maybe from retirement, I wouldn't panic too
- 23:50Speaker 3: much about it. You know, myself is a good I'm
- 23:55Speaker 3: a good example. You know, last week funded mind profit sharing,
- 24:01Speaker 3: you know, for my company a little bit early because
- 24:05Speaker 3: the market is down now. I did that, and the
- 24:08Speaker 3: next day the market dropped, you know, four hundred points
- 24:11Speaker 3: or five hundred points. So it's like, oh, I should
- 24:13Speaker 3: have waited today. That's not going to matter five years
- 24:15Speaker 3: from now. The fact is I bought it and it
- 24:19Speaker 3: was ten percent down from a tie. So whatever happens
- 24:24Speaker 3: from this point forward, I'm still ten percent below.
- 24:26Speaker 1: The last high.
- 24:28Speaker 3: If you look at it in the right time horizon,
- 24:31Speaker 3: you know that will that will turn out to be
- 24:33Speaker 3: a good decision. It might seem like a bad decision
- 24:36Speaker 3: for the next couple of weeks. I don't know. I
- 24:39Speaker 3: don't have a crystal bell, but but when you're looking
- 24:43Speaker 3: at that, you know, think about your time horizon. Does
- 24:46Speaker 3: it if you're working, it does not change your life
- 24:48Speaker 3: that the market is down a little bit. And if
- 24:51Speaker 3: you sell and go to fixed income for instance, cash bonds,
- 24:56Speaker 3: things like that, Fully, as soon as the market rebounds,
- 25:00Speaker 3: what have you done. You've locked in the losses that
- 25:02Speaker 3: you've already taken and have not given it the opportunity
- 25:07Speaker 3: to rebound, which historically, the market as a whole has
- 25:11Speaker 3: never failed to rebound from any decline that it's had.
- 25:16Speaker 3: And so you're you know that if you if you
- 25:18Speaker 3: give into that, you're you're working one hundred percent against
- 25:23Speaker 3: the history of of the way the markets work. So
- 25:27Speaker 3: I would you know, generally say to sit tight or
- 25:32Speaker 3: add more if your situation is such that you can
- 25:37Speaker 3: do that, if you're not utilizing the money currently, if
- 25:40Speaker 3: you've got a couple of years before you need to
- 25:42Speaker 3: utilize the money, you know, generally the market, the volatility passes,
- 25:48Speaker 3: and we're in a ten percent correction right now. That
- 25:53Speaker 3: typically in the course of a year, happens almost every
- 25:56Speaker 3: year at some point in time. You know, we're not
- 25:59Speaker 3: even out of a you know, out of any kind
- 26:03Speaker 3: of norm as far as market behavior goes. If you
- 26:07Speaker 3: own stops, you've experienced this on an average about once
- 26:10Speaker 3: a year. Now, it might be for different reasons, not
- 26:13Speaker 3: the war and not something maybe as volatile as this
- 26:18Speaker 3: news story is, but certainly you would have experienced this
- 26:22Speaker 3: almost every single year that you've been participating in the
- 26:25Speaker 3: stock market, So try to keep it in that type
- 26:28Speaker 3: of perspective.
- 26:30Speaker 2: It's great information and great perspective has always with genbre
- 26:32Speaker 2: debt for Fourth Avenue Financial. Let me get you the information.
- 26:34Speaker 2: We'll take a quick break and have a couple more
- 26:36Speaker 2: texts come in and now we'll get to those when
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- 26:56Speaker 2: we come back, we're going to talk a little bit
- 26:57Speaker 2: about inflation it looks like, and also foreign marks, it markets,
- 27:00Speaker 2: international markets, so a couple questions about those. When we
- 27:03Speaker 2: come back. You can weigh in as well at three
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- 27:11Speaker 2: back right after this. You're listening to retire Right Radio
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- 29:36Speaker 2: tuning in on this Monday morning. John Burdadd is joining
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- 29:42Speaker 2: some some work and play and answering your questions. Got
- 29:45Speaker 2: some text line questions this morning, and we're going to
- 29:47Speaker 2: come back with those. The first one comes from the six,
- 29:50Speaker 2: eight nine, two sixty seven. With all these tariffs still
- 29:52Speaker 2: in play, I'm nervous about inflation coming back. What investments
- 29:56Speaker 2: actually protect you when prices keep going up?
- 30:01Speaker 3: Well, Yes, generally, historically the thing to do is to
- 30:06Speaker 3: own a broad basket of stocks. Stocks keep up historically
- 30:11Speaker 3: with inflation very well. And it's somewhat logical when you
- 30:15Speaker 3: think about it, because stocks are producing the goods. Those
- 30:19Speaker 3: companies of those stocks are producing the goods and services
- 30:23Speaker 3: that are being created, and so they tend to their
- 30:26Speaker 3: earnings tend to keep up because they're they're serving in
- 30:29Speaker 3: the current economic environment. So their prices rise and so
- 30:34Speaker 3: do their profits with that. Very similar to you and
- 30:38Speaker 3: your job. When you work, your income tends to rise
- 30:43Speaker 3: over time to keep up with inflation because you're serving
- 30:46Speaker 3: in the current environment, same thing that your companies are doing. So,
- 30:51Speaker 3: if you want to look at the long term, how
- 30:54Speaker 3: do you keep up with inflation, it is owning companies
- 30:57Speaker 3: that are participating actively in the current economic environment.
- 31:03Speaker 2: So those best able to handle inflation on their own
- 31:07Speaker 2: will also basically pass that along. Yes, that makes a
- 31:11Speaker 2: lot of sense.
- 31:12Speaker 3: I mean, and their earnings will will will follow. You know,
- 31:16Speaker 3: if you have a Let's say a company has a
- 31:19Speaker 3: ten percent profit margin on their goods and services, and
- 31:22Speaker 3: the value of that doubles, and if they maintain the
- 31:25Speaker 3: profit margin, their profits also double, which usually translates into
- 31:31Speaker 3: an increase in stock prices that keep up with inflation. Historically,
- 31:36Speaker 3: that's that's been the best place to be if you're
- 31:41Speaker 3: worried about inflation. Now, Conversely, in a retirement plan, you
- 31:46Speaker 3: know you have to be careful that you balance your
- 31:48Speaker 3: risks out. So you have multiple risks in a plan.
- 31:52Speaker 3: You've got the risk of being squeezed by inflation and
- 31:56Speaker 3: you're purchasing power over time, but you also have the
- 32:00Speaker 3: the downside of the market is that it's volatile, so
- 32:03Speaker 3: you have to meet your short term needs the income
- 32:06Speaker 3: that you might need in retirement with different types of assets.
- 32:09Speaker 3: That's how that asset allocation that I always talked about
- 32:12Speaker 3: comes into play. So you have to balance those risks
- 32:16Speaker 3: out and because both of them are very real in
- 32:19Speaker 3: your retirement and in your planning, so you know those
- 32:23Speaker 3: are those are questions that you know if you're come
- 32:26Speaker 3: into the office, we set down and we'll come up
- 32:29Speaker 3: with that allocation that makes sense for your individual situation.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Fourth, having a financial located one seventy Court Street right
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- 32:39Speaker 2: cost you any time at all. We have text messages
- 32:41Speaker 2: coming in now, and so I'll try to get to
- 32:43Speaker 2: as many diseases as we can. We have a few
- 32:45Speaker 2: of them here. This one has to do the see
- 32:46Speaker 2: from the three zero four seven to sixty three. Let's see,
- 32:49Speaker 2: the US dollar has been weakening. I've always just invested
- 32:51Speaker 2: in US stocks. Is there a reason to finally look
- 32:54Speaker 2: at international funds and what is the risk there? That's
- 32:57Speaker 2: an interesting question to follow up about the diversification question anyway.
- 33:01Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, in a diversified portfolio, you probably
- 33:06Speaker 3: should have had some exposure to international already. It's certainly
- 33:13Speaker 3: you know, in the US we have the home field
- 33:14Speaker 3: advantage that most folks own more US stocks than than
- 33:19Speaker 3: international stocks, just just by nature and familiarity. But international
- 33:24Speaker 3: stocks can outperform US. They have outperformed US in the
- 33:29Speaker 3: last year or so, and then they're continuing to outperform
- 33:33Speaker 3: this year. You know, there are a couple of things
- 33:38Speaker 3: that go into play there where they've underperformed their valuations.
- 33:43Speaker 3: You know, their their priced earnings things of that nature
- 33:46Speaker 3: are are less than US stocks. And then you also
- 33:50Speaker 3: have the dollar strength and weakness that goes into play there.
- 33:56Speaker 3: And so sometimes international can be more ballas too, but
- 34:01Speaker 3: there are large stretches where sometimes it's in favor because
- 34:05Speaker 3: of that currency or valuation differences between that and US,
- 34:09Speaker 3: and and it makes sense to have that in a
- 34:12Speaker 3: diversified portfolio. You know, the United States economy is by
- 34:15Speaker 3: far and away the largest economy in the world, but
- 34:20Speaker 3: still it's only about a quarter of all economic activity
- 34:24Speaker 3: activity on the globe. That means if you avoid international,
- 34:29Speaker 3: you're just avoiding seventy five percent of the economic activity
- 34:32Speaker 3: on the globe. And so you know, you have to
- 34:35Speaker 3: have some exposure to that for a diversification, not a
- 34:40Speaker 3: you know, switch where you flip all in or all out.
- 34:43Speaker 2: You're not going to suddenly go all international or something
- 34:45Speaker 2: that wouldn't be a great move, right.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Right, It's just part of your diversification strategy.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Still, more great information from genre deck. I want to
- 34:53Speaker 2: try to squeeze in these last couple of texts in
- 34:54Speaker 2: here great information. I'll save some of these for next
- 34:57Speaker 2: week if we need to. Of course, you can always
- 34:58Speaker 2: give Fourth Avenue Fund Angel call, I'll get those information
- 35:01Speaker 2: out before we leave the airways. We'll get you out
- 35:02Speaker 2: of here on this real quick. Noan, you got about
- 35:04Speaker 2: a minute. Let's see, gold seems to be going up
- 35:07Speaker 2: all the time lately. Is gold actually a smart investment
- 35:10Speaker 2: right now? Or is it just hype? How much should
- 35:11Speaker 2: someone have in their portfolio.
- 35:14Speaker 3: I'm not a big believer in commodities as an investment.
- 35:19Speaker 3: You know, gold has historically been a good store of value,
- 35:24Speaker 3: but it doesn't produce anything like a stock does. It
- 35:27Speaker 3: has no income stream like a dividend. It has no
- 35:32Speaker 3: product that is producing that that is trying to expand
- 35:37Speaker 3: the customer base. You know, gold is certainly in favor
- 35:42Speaker 3: right now and has been as well as low silver
- 35:48Speaker 3: and some other things, but it it really I tend
- 35:56Speaker 3: not to like it just simply because it doesn't produce something.
- 36:00Speaker 3: You know. My whole theory is wealth comes from the
- 36:04Speaker 3: service of others. I want to own companies that are
- 36:08Speaker 3: valuable to people in their daily lives.
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