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Never Tapped Out · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian Sigler, buddy.
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Big Night, Big Night. Big night for the boundary
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Corner podcast. We are going live tonight
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streaming. And tonight, folks, we have
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Hokies Legend, and current assistant defensive line coach
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for my San Francisco. 49ers Darryl Tapp is going to be
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joining us. Hey man, I can't wait.
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Yeah. I mean, this is big.
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Everyone that's been watching the podcast.
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They know how we feel about DTaP, so big to have them all.
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Let's go ahead and bring him in here, sir DTaP.
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How are you doing tonight? Doing Goodfellas.
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I'll be living the dream and living the dream.
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Thanks for joining us live in a dream.
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Nice 90-degree day here in the r-va in Virginia.
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Has it out there on the west coast tonight.
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It's nice. There we go.
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There we go. So detached.
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Let's let's start it off this way.
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How's the move-in for you? It's been, it's been good.
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It's been really good. The wife and I are transitioning
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out here to get locked and loaded.
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Optimus season but the organization has been awesome.
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Lady has been very helpful for are going to set up and trying
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to move our stuff and car ship and the whole nine and it's
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allowing me to come here and focus on learning from these
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coaches and getting ourselves prepared for this season.
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All right, Brian, I'm going to take over the next few questions
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man, because I gotta ask close to the heart, I get it, I get
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it, it's my art man. Then as I said, I'm a Niners
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fan. Now you're coming into a
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situation on that defensive line, Nick Bosa, Eric arms about
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dead. Javon, kinlaw, got Samson.
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Picked him up in free agency. How are you feeling about the
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room so far? I'm excited.
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We have a all veteran room, like, we don't have any rookies.
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We don't have any apps that take a call them puppies, could
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geysers coming in trying to learn everybody and we're 15
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deep. I Believe full of guys that have
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played ball in this league. So these guys are coming with a
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different mindset for us what they want.
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Accomplish what they want to do. Guys have stuff to prove this
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year. You know last year unfortunately
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got hit with a lot of different injuries and things that happen
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on the heels of a Super Bowl run the year before.
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So guys have come into OTAs and going into mini camp with a
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different focus and it's pretty cool to be a part of and see how
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they've been attacking their work.
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Yeah, absolutely. We are a very veteran Laden
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Group. I mean I think the youngest guy
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in there might have three years experience and for me, obviously
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some really A high draft picks. I hope Nick's looking good.
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I know he's recovering but has it now, you know, we I take a
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look, you know, Robert solow gets hired comes here to East
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Coast to the Jets and an old play.
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And friend, man, D'Amico Ryan's is taken over how things feeling
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with him at the him in. How's it feel having someone you
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played with running the show? It's awesome.
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Honestly for me that was a huge part.
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To have somebody to play with him for me.
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Well how he operates and rocks especially in critical
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situations like he's a calm guy. Like he's going to he's he's the
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waters, allow guys, wide and focus on their work but he's
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been commended unreal. Like just like I said a calm
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presence the scheme that is going to run and bring in isn't
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a liar guys go play fast and guys have been gravitated
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towards him as well. Like he's a guy that everybody
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respects not only by the way, he carried himself but in fact he
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did it in this league for a long time.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean he did it for quite a
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while and you know I'll be honest I listen to the Bay Area
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radio. I read all the reporters and
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obviously a lot of people are saying, you know, we were neck
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covered three and why people smoke the meat going just going
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to stick with that D'Amico, got some aces up his sleeve.
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He's probably going to play, so you don't have to answer this,
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but yeah, should I expect to see maybe some different things?
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He's all around from D'Amico's defense.
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I think you should expect to see anything in fact that because
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playlist leave and he knows how to think as a linebacker.
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You know how to think as a coordinator.
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He's going to be able to attack different schemes to come in
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here and we're going to be right in his pocket.
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Doing the same thing. He asks us to do, we got some
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stuff we got some stuff ready to go.
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That is just awesome to hear. All right, one is music to your
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ears record my that one more thing, you know, You know,
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you're now working as a colleague with Christmas, or
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Christmas spirit Coast, you mr. Detroit Krista sir, highly
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respected defensive line coach. And I can say, I saw it, the
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day, they brought him in there, I'd defensive line changed from
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being good, to being borderline great.
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But what's that relationship? Like now, you know, you want
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from the player and now you're right next to him, your the
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colleague, what's your relationship like with Chris?
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Now that you know, things have changed Things have changed from
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my actual roll my title. Okay, but they haven't changed.
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When I got to Detroit, I was a year nine in.
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So I was already an old head and or dinosaur, or a relic.
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I do you want to say yeah, but I was a player's coach.
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So I already understood what I need to do and what everybody
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else in the diesel, I need to do.
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And that's part of the reason that coach Chris was invested in
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me as a player because I was able to be a player coach told.
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Really hasn't changed other than my title.
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Me being a go out there and operate and do things that play
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off of him and get that message across as been.
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The same thing is automatic, it's incredibility with Coach
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Chris, he played in the league for a couple years and he's been
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a guy that has been able to transform career, the extend
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them and I'm living proof of that man's work.
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Now play for two years and extending my career as well and
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play some great balls. So the guys see that they know
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that they know that coach Chris invested in them.
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They've seen the way I've carried myself and Coach.
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Chris, didn't put his name with anybody?
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That isn't about the same thing that he's about, have conviction
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this scheme and what we're doing.
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So it's been an awesome transition for us.
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Me being a coach, but far as Kriss and my relationship.
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It's been the same. If anything, he's pouring even
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more into me. Now, as a coach in the same way
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point to me as a player like he's family.
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It's awesome to hear ya. And I guess the other thing
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that, you know, I want to kind of ask Out Chris.
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Because I mean you talked about before we jumped on like that
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Detroit Lions line, you know, do you see pieces of the Niners
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line? Its kind of cause y'all were
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that was a really good tip line. With, you know, I've been you
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mentioned suing some other guy Ziggy Ansah.
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I mean you see this kind of shaping up this year to be like
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that? I hope so.
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So when I first got here, one of the biggest things was get
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familiar with the players on R&D line as well as our defense but
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especially the deal. Line find out what the strengths
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weaknesses are find out how they mesh then Rock together in the
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first film. We looked at was filmed from the
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Super Bowl ring year and those guys were flying around
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everywhere, doing everything playing with great effort,
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passion for the game energy. And I said last year, it just
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took a little bit of injury toll, but that 19 years looked
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exactly how we looked in 1492. Camaraderie we have the defense
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online. Now, you have pretty much all
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those guys back. You added a couple more pieces
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than I said. The way these guys have been
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handling their business going into, ho Tas and hitting the
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minicamp in. A couple weeks has been Elite
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like my dear. These guys are grown men and
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they know what they're going to accomplish.
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Everybody has something to prove to themselves, and they want to
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do it with each other. Okay, one more class.
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Mm, one more hit. So, I talked to him, I meant
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John Lynch is a GM Hall of Famer you play for Kyle.
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Shanahan with the Redskins when he was the o.c. there.
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Coach bye chriskiss turret and you play with D'Amico.
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Ryan's, how does it make you feel professionally as you're
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getting into coaching? They picked up that phone call
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DTaP and said, hey, here's the opportunity to coach with a guy.
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You guys are very familiar with and it's Beast group of lineman.
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Like, how does that make a guy feel that you're getting your
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coaching career started? It is, I can't I'll get to be
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honest, it was a Bittersweet feeling because I had finally
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got back to Virginia, Tech the coach, like the dream of dreams,
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like, never thought it would happen and got that opportunity.
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What I had to? Thank my mom.
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And dad, my two older brothers for raised me to right way.
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They always taught me that you treat everybody, right way.
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Can you never know what those British had to come back around?
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Yep, so I played for Coach Shanahan with the Redskins with
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the Washington football team now in 2001 13.
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From the staff from last year that was here with the 49ers at
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play for 12 different coaches between the Redskins lines in
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the Eagles. So the way that carried myself,
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the way I handle my business, the way I came to work with an
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attention to detail and built the relationships, have brought
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it all the way back to 2021, to my first opportunity to coach in
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the NFL. And just as small as it is,
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smaller chance it is for players to get from college to plant in
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the field is like 10 times harder as a coach, in the way
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they have my business brought me to this opportunity here.
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So it was an unbelievable experience.
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And feeling to my said to have that phone call with Coach.
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Chris, the tell me about opportunity to had a phone call
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from the me cohort, we refer a teammates together in
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Philadelphia. In in Krakow, Shanahan to
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solidify with opportunity to come out here and coach and get
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my feet wet. Be coaching and be around this
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great organization is, it's been unreal.
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Like, I feel like that do them in training.
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They were Denzel Washington like every day.
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I'm learning something that's awesome to see how the other
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side of the game at this level. Yeah that's awesome to hear.
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So I got a question stop, non her specific because I'm not I'm
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not quite in the tank like Curtis is there.
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But I mean, the biggest. And so you been power, five
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defensive line coach. Now your system defensive line
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coach the NFL level recruiting aside.
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Like, what's the biggest difference between those two
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that you've seen so far in like, a few months in the NFL?
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I will say that the biggest thing is that now you're dealing
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with grownups Meaning that in college the main goal is to push
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these guys from childhood to adulthood, you want to help this
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guy become better men in every aspect academics, social skills
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who football knowledge and then give them the get them across
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the line to get their degree. Whereas now, the NFL, this is
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now a job and you have to continue to stress that to these
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guys, especially ones that come in force that I have to do that
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this year. But older guys to understand it
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even more, So like in a field means not for long like that is
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truly a real thing and I was fortunate and blessed to play
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longer than the 2.7 year average but you're stressing.
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This is a job like if you don't get it right?
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Yeah. That will find somebody else
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that will. So every day you need to step in
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this building for the kids that got to be need to get out of bed
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with a clear-cut focus on what you're trying to accomplish and
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what you're trying to do. Because this is Benefit, you
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want to benefit your family and you're playing a child's game
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for a king's Ransom. So you need to maximize every
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opportunity. You have to have to play this
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game in earn a way of life for your family.
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Whereas in college these guys still kind of you still trying
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to get them out of the high school thing where like, all
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right I can mess up today. I still be good tomorrow.
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Don't worry, I didn't feel especially right now like all
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these guys as much as we love them all, they're competing for
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a spot competing for opportunity to plan is leader only 1800
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Dobbs, so you got to make your mark every day in everything
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that you do and be mindful of that.
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That's awesome. That's awesome.
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That's the big thing for me to like when we look at the
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difference like you said you're dealing with kids coming out of
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high school. They're not used to the that
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paper grind that right when you're in the NFL every day
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counts because the next day isn't promised, no doubt about
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it. Also before we get into more
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conversation here with Darryl Tapp we are going to take a
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quick pause for a quick message from our digital Partners.
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Alright DTaP. We're going to get back into it
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here. We're going to Pivot more, two
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more hokey, specific stuff Downs.
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That Curtis has had his moment in the sun here.
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So you know this year you're working with chriskiss Erick
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last year you were working with Bill tearling who was close to
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my heart as a Colts fan the name clearly you know, Right out the
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gate. I was like oh we got Bill coming
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in. Okay, okay so I mean not many
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guys, gonna change the coach with that level of guys that
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have done it in that the NFL, what was it like to work with
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Bill last year? It was good honestly.
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Coach ham and coach football coach went to and Coach ham did
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a great job of assembling staff for people that care.
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Now, with that said, it was a beast last year because you do
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it so many things that it did. Ed with the wrong of first and
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foremost. It was a brand-new Stan.
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We never really got a chance to really Vibe and click as a
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complete unit to a party later on in the season.
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So we'll still learning each other's strengths and
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weaknesses. And what everybody did best,
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then we're trying to install it brand new scheme to these guys
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via zoom and we were just learning Zoo myself.
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So you had to try to keep those guys attention there.
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So it was so many hurdles we had to get across, but I can tell
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you that on that defensive side of the ball, Yeah, we came to
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work every day with a clear-cut focus on how to try to get these
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kids on the same page. Believing the same thing and you
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started to see how much better we got towards the middle,
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latter part of the Season though, we saw a really good
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ball. So I got to imagine that was
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Spring ball this year trying to be in the same system and seeing
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the Pieces come together from a coaching staff and from a player
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standpoint that is going to be even more improved this year and
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get this thing right back on the way it needs to go.
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Love to hear that. Love to hear that about Bill.
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Love to hear that about the other parts of the defensive
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staff. They're absolutely.
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Let's talk about one of the bright spots of last year's
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team. Amari bar.
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No kid comes in. I switches positions works his
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way into the too deep. And then by seasons in, you
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know, he's one of the standout players on your unit, can you
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tell us a little bit more about amar'e's transition to defensive
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end? And at what point last year, did
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you know that he was going to be special at the position?
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Well, we already knew that Mari. Was he when a coach for Monday's
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favorite, guys? You know, he hadn't had the
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success that he wanted or Vision early on, but he played his tail
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off on special teams. He was in a linebacker world.
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So coach coach building myself and Coach Han, we want to coach
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food like let's please let her just this.
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The switch positions on this guy.
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Look at him. At the DS4 I can we gotta get
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our best athletes on the field like the teams that we're
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playing an agency were explosive on.
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The side, the ball. We have to build a match that
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with the same kind of explosion, same kind of speed and evil side
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of. Also coach Fuente.
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Allow does it to entertain pushing mono to, then he had a
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conversation with Bruno's, mom, want to make sure everybody's in
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the loop and everybody feel good about the transition.
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And then from that point on Maria and myself and Coach Zack,
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RGA that point in time, we spent time with him going over foot.
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We're going over hand placement. Burning pass rush though.
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Cut out something else completely foreign to him.
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Yeah we played well I'm back. So we had to get to the point
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where it did that the Roanoke knock some guys out for a couple
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weeks and you had a couple injuries as always having the
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football. And next thing you know I'm
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already starting games and playing with Elite effort and
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Amari or Bardo is a smart smart cat and he understands Concepts,
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he understands what to do and he's use their cap.
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You can tell him once. Maybe twice he got it, okay?
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So the reefs of bound that he made last year during the
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season, really not having an offseason to murder stuff.
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Like we're literally learn on the fly every day after
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practice. So dish, I said this year, this
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opportunity has OTAs Primo like he could completely take off and
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if he's fortunate enough to get to combine, it's a wrap because
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he's super athletic. Yeah.
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So all the, all the cars and all the dominoes are stacked in his
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favor and I said, just continue to progress.
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Far as learning the defense learning how to be a defensive
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end and then learning the fundamentals and techniques you
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need to succeed that it could be.
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It could be scary this year. Can I have some yeah, follow up
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on that. What when was it like?
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Was it the first time he practiced at defensive end where
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you like? Oh boy.
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Oh, he's big and can move. Okay, okay.
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Sandwiches calls right? Oh man, that's great.
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That's great. You know we love watching bar no
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progress last year. I mean, that was, that was kind
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of one of the big highlights that we had to the season.
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So it's good to hear that, that transition kind of went like,
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like, like we were talking about there.
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Let's talk about another guy, Jordan Williams.
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He was a big ad from the portal. Just before you took the 49er
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job, he made a point. To mention relationships with
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you and Coach Fuente as to, why he ended up coming to the
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Hokies. What was it?
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Like, helping recruit a high-profile transfer portal
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player like Jordan. And like, what's the biggest
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thing that he's going to bring to the table for the Hokies in
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2021? Well, it was cool that we were,
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always always scaring the the portal for Gaza.
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Can help your team. That's kind of where college
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football is kind of come to right now.
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But with him being a guy from the 757, it hit close.
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At home, they'll Coach, Rick kills already familiar with
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them. From being like, I think it was
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top. I think it was, it was between
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Tekken clips and before he made it sound, as you know, the club
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set. So coach Fuente always wanted
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Jordan to be a part of the family will meet being a 757
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guy. I want all the best guys from
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that area to come here to have the same experience that I had a
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Virginia Tech so it was Elite like soon as he was officially
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in the portal. I was on, go get him out.
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All right, it wasn't it wasn't a sale job.
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That's not something that I believe in is not something that
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coach hand believes and or coach Fuente, we will tell you the
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truth and who better to tell you the truth, then a guy like
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myself that played there, graduated from there and three
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and a half years. Got the opportunity to play in
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the league from the exact same place you are.
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So we were there to connect on that I was able to connect with
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his mom and dad on the on opportunity they had ever
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diente. It just, it is, everything is
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fun in place and I think for him being that he was at Clemson, he
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played it. I think what three or four
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straight plays its the other, is he a, a playoff brackets and
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want a pink one or two? Maddie's like he has a wealth of
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knowledge and wealth of wisdom to give to your guys.
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And when you have a guy like that elevates, everybody's
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plate, everybody's production and even as coaches, it elevates
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you because you want to make sure that you're putting
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everybody in the right. Position to accomplish the team
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going to come to their individual goals as well.
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So he adds so much to this picture, he can really take all
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this year. I know that he's been doing very
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well. Condition-wise went from
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Colorado's is I went to work out what through Spring ball like
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guys respect him and what he brought to the table and he has
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a chance to really make a huge name for himself in the ACC and
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hopefully put himself into running to be drafted next year.
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Absolutely. And you know, speaking of the
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757, you know, before example and 75.
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Yeah. Have water.
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Some fans, have you want to call it before you approach for the
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49ers? You know, you were kind of
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starting to run the point on the 757 recruiting and in Virginia
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Tech football. Um, My Relations, which is one
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of our guests to white dick. Looks like he's taken that baton
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from you and starting to run with it on his own.
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Right. But yeah, what are some of the
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challenges? Challenges down in the 75 and
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the alumni fronts today that may not have been there when you
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were first getting the tech back in the early 2000s.
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Probably the biggest thing is that you have a coach has only
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been there for it now six years. No one, I can detect Beamer and
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Coach Foster and clockwise already been there for 16 years.
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Yeah, you know, so there's a level of continuity and
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stability that was established and it was already running this
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course where you have New guy coach Fuente.
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That was not coach Beamer. Everybody that's a college
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football fan, especially the tech fans.
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They understand stuff within a certain way in Blacksburg and
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that's what is used in 434. 29 years coach Beamer for 32 years
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of Coach, false and Coach Wiles. That's how stuff was done.
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So we could have been coach false, they could have came
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bench. Coach Fuente, could have been
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coach Smith or Coach, Joe whoever it was that came in
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after coach Beamer, it would have been the exact same boat as
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coach Fuente is in now. And he's continually to try to
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lead and do things his way still got to pay.
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Homage the code way, coach Beamer distance, but this is
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coach Fuente program, and I think that's why they've been
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the biggest hurdle that him and the staff that he's continued to
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put together. Have always had to overcome and
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stuff. Was done a different way.
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Back when I was coming out, like we had to make our highlight,
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takes on VHS, the poly people on this.
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On this, it is this called, I know what VHS is, probably,
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right. Where is now as a college coach,
24:03
if you talk about a kid that's out here in California and I'm
24:05
in Blacksburg, I can be on the phone with him, recruit him in
24:07
30 minutes or less at the scene as highlight tape.
24:09
I got his transcript like you just a different way so the
24:13
relationship that were built back then it was certainly was
24:16
done back then that's not necessarily done now because now
24:19
you have a bigger footprint and now you having to compete with
24:22
more people, like it was unheard of for Notre Dame or USC or
24:28
Arizona. Of these schools to come to
24:30
Virginia to get kids. Could they didn't know about.
24:33
So now you have to do with that this whole explosion of
24:35
recruiting and you got to be on the even more so where it seems
24:39
like wow you know some days you have it like waxing like take us
24:42
do not offer the everybody or somebody like that's kind of
24:45
weird. He is like you have to be on an
24:46
extremely fast. Do your evaluation and try to
24:49
get these connections because every school across the nation
24:52
has access to any kid out there and 75 78, the best kept secret
24:56
that it was back in the 90s and early 2000s.
24:59
Because you mentioned something and I'll ask you this, you know
25:03
you are getting recruited 01:02, right?
25:06
You signed out to the cursor is what was the farthest school?
25:09
You got an offer from Notre Dame Notre Dame.
25:12
Okay yeah and Kevin Rogers who was the the quarterback coach
25:16
you because your Tech? Yeah he was the one he was and
25:21
then I didn't hear from him for like a couple months.
25:39
University of Virginia Tech University of Maryland and
25:43
Florida and Florida is one of those schools that was kind of
25:47
unheard of to. But the reason why Florida
25:49
became a school for me because my middle school, principal
25:52
Debbie still works her brother with the d-line coach.
25:55
Ricky hungry. What the coach do you like coach
25:57
at Florida? So what He offered me a floor
25:59
tile. That's why I'm a me.
26:18
Because if we do think about it, I mean, we roughly all the same
26:21
age, I'm seven. I know y'all are in y'all's
26:25
thirties as well, but it has changed when there was no
26:28
Facebook. There was no Twitter, there was
26:29
no Instagram. We couldn't live stream, this
26:32
back in the day, not at all. It's instant connections.
26:36
And, you know, we kind of sit here and say, well, why is why
26:40
can't we do as good down there? And it's like, because everybody
26:44
knows about down there. Yeah.
26:46
ADI. And everybody's making the
26:48
offers and now, you know, you've got, you've got programs that
26:51
have private, Justin coaches can jump on and put like to ask you
27:02
about a mindset, you know, you mentioned it earlier covid
27:07
created. A lot of really difficult things
27:09
in terms of installing and Justin elements of Defense in
27:13
2020. I mean I didn't happen to bring
27:15
y'all Wade. That fall Camp was y'all had
27:18
some camping then, a gigantic break for the first game and you
27:22
kind of mentioned it earlier but go into it, a little deeper with
27:26
the benefits of a pull off season what aspects of the
27:28
defense can we as fans and somebody like Brian who played
27:32
the game, what are we going to see different this year?
27:35
2021 from James D? I think this consistency like
27:41
Last year it was only so much stuff we could do because from
27:44
week to week you without 10, to 20 players, I mean, think about
27:49
it, we play UNC. We were, we were, we were
27:53
starting a walk-on safety. Yep.
27:55
Now Matheny plate is, but often but just tested the athletic
27:59
disparity was so wide that, but in the game was nothing he could
28:03
do. I mean he went again, he went
28:05
against two running backs or drafted in the first three
28:07
rounds this year, I was nothing that he could really do.
28:10
So, Diablo missed a lot of games.
28:13
He's a third-round pick, so you have Caleb Fairley.
28:16
The first round pick. He didn't get to play the whole
28:18
season. So it was a lot of things that
28:20
cause it presented to us and we was really on our heels, just
28:23
trying to fight back and try to scheme up.
28:26
Stuff to go against teams are going the same way.
28:29
It was a, it was a league-wide or a nationwide thing with
28:33
everybody had to deal with, but just for us, like, it was
28:36
extremely tough because on top of we're, installing the System
28:41
with brand new coaches. Like I first three games.
28:43
We didn't have a coordinator nice and they'll adjust.
28:46
It was. Yeah, it happened that it was a
28:50
perfect storm of bad stuff. Yeah, I was, I was always
28:53
comparing it with Kurt. I was like, you know,
28:54
everybody's got one hand behind their back this year, but it
28:56
feels like if you're installing new defense, you got both of
28:58
them on your back. It's a wrap, will turn back a
29:06
little bit because we got to ask you some questions about your
29:10
time. Matt Tech, you know, bride and I
29:15
his first game with Rutgers 2002, you play with my first
29:19
game was UCF, opening weekend 2003, you played.
29:24
So literally, as at first trips. Tulane Stadium Darryl Tapp was
29:30
on that ground but the Hokey lure.
29:34
And we we met you four years ago.
29:36
It's bringing we even talked about it.
29:38
Once you've got the lunch pail. Yes sir.
29:40
You never let it go until you graduated.
29:43
And then Bud had to literally get another lunch pail, because
29:45
you took it with you. Correct.
29:47
I did. Yeah.
29:57
Everybody on the team to get that.
30:00
But when you showed up in 02 year freshman, was there anybody
30:04
on that team in 2002 that help drive you to be that?
30:08
A player and you play with some good ones, man.
30:10
I can think I know. Jake Groves was on that team.
30:13
Well, familiar with Ron Weasley maybe.
30:17
Yeah. What was it one guy.
30:19
Like when you got there, you saw them on that field.
30:22
Practice field. And again, we were like that's
30:24
what I'm going through. Honestly, yes and no.
30:29
Okay, first it, first and foremost, I'm a extremely
30:33
family-oriented guy. So my heroes is my mom and dad
30:36
and my two older brothers That's the way.
30:38
I was raised like the stuff wasn't done, right?
30:41
I would do it again. They told me to ride my bike
30:44
from home to practice partly because no Mom was running
30:48
everywhere else doing her own daughter stuff with the support
30:50
of family, her and dad, and I had no other way.
30:53
So, you know, anybody can get get the going and then to like
30:59
playing sports growing up, was a privilege that could be revoked
31:03
quite easily, if your grades and chores will weren't up to par.
31:08
Now was I got to take I was going to Tech with a bunch of
31:12
guys from Deep Creek, right guys, that I looked up to do my
31:16
teammates Vegas Robinson, James Anderson DeAngelo Hall and I was
31:21
going with guys from Tech from the creek to take Josh.
31:24
Hyman all these guys were all together, so we always push each
31:28
other growing up as kids think that's what we want to do.
31:31
We had a clear-cut vision when the conflict when he got to
31:34
take. Now once I personally got to
31:36
take the deal on room He's a veteran Laden Group, I think our
31:40
team with a veteran Laden team where the coaches really had to
31:43
do very little to get us going. Okay, if I wasn't doing, I posed
31:46
to do, Lamar Cobb cols colas the Pella DV Jim Davis.
31:55
Tim saying is like, all these guys would put their hands on me
31:58
to make sure I was going to write you learn real quick of
32:04
your business and fall in line with what we're trying to
32:06
accomplish and you I'll be the best player to you can be and of
32:10
course called your Wiles. You know, he had a he had a
32:12
reputation for helping guys to reach levels that they haven't
32:16
seen. So for me it was just the
32:18
perfect storm of stuff being where I was raised when I
32:20
Envision, what I want to do with the teammates that I had played
32:22
with. And I said, walking into a
32:24
veteran late and team kind of created the person that I became
32:28
once I got today. Awesome.
32:31
Yeah, it's nice having guys that you're familiar with that, you
32:34
have that Comfort level with it. You know we're going to push you
32:37
and tell you when you're not you know carrying carrying the
32:40
weight no doubt and that's always good to have.
32:43
I had some teammates like that, I played a little ball in hand
32:46
and Sydney, I played high school ball.
32:49
It's always good. Having you have a boy that you
32:50
can trust that know that they'll call you out when you're not
32:53
doing the right thing, no doubt about it.
32:56
So you go ahead Curtis, I'll let you finish what you got last
32:59
one. There anybody ever on the online
33:02
that either a you were like oh this is gonna be the dogfight
33:06
and I will help out. Why do you have to remember one
33:08
guy from anybody, Jeff King? Who's that JFK JFK all the time.
33:13
Okay man, I played against him in high school if you'll ask you
33:27
to, that was crazy. Technically sound strong like
33:33
unassuming, but you'll put his hands on you.
33:36
Oh man here, I mean that's even better to hear about.
33:39
Did you think about King and his work ethic because he's busted
33:42
his butt to get? I mean right he's borderline.
33:46
I think of Carolina doesn't have a good season.
33:48
I think. Jeff King might get that GM job
33:51
down there and bride. Of course you had to play
33:53
against them up a few Lasky. It's funny again.
33:56
It's the connections man, it's no doubt it's while Ow.
34:00
So we're going to be straight up.
34:03
Okay? 2004 team, it was picked to
34:08
finish in the bottom half of the ACC fools fools and that ain't
34:17
how it went down. And obviously Miami game.
34:20
Me and the man comes over to my apartment at Longwood, 1:00 kick
34:25
and cracking beers with watching that game screaming at the TV
34:29
for you guys. That's feasible, is a very
34:32
special place for us. I think probably.
34:34
Because Brown was at Sydney. I was at Longwood, we got to
34:37
watch some games together when he wasn't playing for our game
34:40
early, it just holds a very special place in our heart.
34:45
Be Rands. Brother was Siegel has ra.
34:51
Yeah, it's Brandon and Paul what was so different about that
34:57
year? Because it was it was something
34:59
special. Back in 2004.
35:05
So I think was a sign of it was we took it as a challenge, we're
35:13
just leaving the biggies, had finished a year horribly, think
35:17
we lost like three out of the last four games.
35:19
A year that we won. Those guys went to bees.
35:22
And then you got opportunity to go into the ACC.
35:25
And of course everybody knows like with the whole ordeal to
35:28
get us into the ACC in the whole night, they were trying to leave
35:29
us out. And then the way, the powers
35:33
that be set up, the ACC is they set it up because they weren't
35:36
in Miami and Florida State to play in the championship.
35:40
No, to put it in, put them in different bracket so you can set
35:41
it up, but they put us and UVA and the same bracket like, okay,
35:44
this wasn't done with that. It was just trying to get more
35:47
teams in here so they can have it.
35:48
So, we do the same disrespect and we came out the gate.
35:52
We knew we had USC coming out, the gate.
35:56
So our Focus was streamline, the guys that were coming up coming
36:02
in age becoming the Juniors. We're trying to take the team
36:05
over. That was our total mindset for
36:09
the whole season going into training camp and we caught fire
36:14
and believe in one another. Like you still.
36:17
Can't come to this day bed, and I hate to blame every blame
36:19
thing on the rails. But the rails affected the USC.
36:22
Damn, right. Josh Lyman.
37:07
The name of the game was changed in like Biggie's was a run-run
37:12
dominantly. So we had a bunch of guys that
37:14
kind of play that system. And those guys are kind of
37:17
graduated moving out and as we move into the ACC, that's when
37:20
more athletic players that we had were kind of coming to age,
37:25
and we just kind of took off, I don't think that they were ready
37:28
for this type of physicality that we had the way coach
37:31
Gentry, got us prepared to play each and every season, but
37:34
especially that season to make our first impression would it
37:36
was the My said that we had to go out there and let them know
37:39
that we're not, no, no, no Cakewalk that, that showed on
37:43
Saturdays and we did we did our thing.
37:47
It was exciting to be a part of noticing that the Rejuvenation
37:52
of hokey football. Yeah.
37:54
You know the attended detail that we had it was a it was a
37:58
fun time and it was a lot of lifelong bonds relations mean it
38:02
was it was nice to kind of put a stamp on the ACC saying, hey,
38:07
Here, we're here. We're about to run the rest of
38:09
the we're about to run the rest of this decade.
38:15
All right. So I'm going to Pivot a little
38:16
bit here to somebody that's near and dear to pretty much every
38:19
hokey fans Hearts Bud. Foster, you know, obviously
38:26
hokey Legend Best to do it. In my opinion.
38:31
What are some of the lessons are habits that you learn from Bud
38:34
during your time in Blacksburg? And I that you kind of still
38:38
carry today or still kind of put those two action today.
38:42
The intensity for the game and for being consistent in the way.
38:47
Karen. So you couldn't tell if coach
38:50
Foster was pissed. Happy sad intensity intensity,
38:57
intensity. And you got to see his passion
39:00
and love for the game through that you know and it wasn't just
39:03
on the football field like he cares about you as an individual
39:07
person. I coach Foster still to this day
39:09
will still call and text me just Economics.
39:12
He was going on. Coach dimmer.
39:13
Does the same thing coach times. Bring with my recruiting coach,
39:16
no line coach. At that point in time.
39:17
It still does the same thing, Mike?
39:20
That's the way those guys were, and that's what, that's all, we
39:23
knew. So that's the same way I try to
39:25
carry myself when I was in the Collegiate level.
39:28
And even now, this low like trying to create a bond with
39:30
each individual player because I still say it now, saying, to the
39:35
day I retiring, like, If you show that you can help a player
39:39
and you genuinely care about a player, you could tell a player
39:41
that the sky is green and because of that, much love and
39:44
respect he has for you in the way your opponent to him.
39:47
He'll be like, you know, what coach tablet is green will be
39:49
doing now, you know, you got to make those relationships, you
39:52
got investment people, so, they know that you have the same goal
39:55
that they want to accomplish, you want to try to help them,
39:57
get there, that's something that coach false are always talking,
40:00
always brought to us, And probably the coolest thing of
40:05
coolest moment with coach for also with at NC State game, like
40:07
we have played our tails off, he got the ball back to your
40:09
offense, but their defense was some some unreal that year they
40:13
had like three, four, four first-round, picks on a deal.
40:16
And three of them came out with me, but to, through material to
40:19
in Cairo, me and to him came out like the year after.
40:22
But we did everything we need to do, we put the ball back in
40:24
offices hand and let them work. He like that's one of you
40:27
brought the whole defense up said, look I appreciate
40:28
everything job was the other day.
40:31
And that's something that's always understood before me in
40:33
that moment. While the game was still going
40:35
on there driving to pull us up and let us know.
40:36
Like that means everything, could we know that we're just
40:40
not a commodity like, they truly, truly cared about us and
40:43
we're trying to come and do like that was, that was pretty
40:46
special, that's to remember. That's awesome here.
40:49
And like I said, so many hockey fans like you hear stories about
40:53
just how much you could tell that bud cares about you cares
40:56
about the game and just put everything into the game when he
41:01
showed up to work every day. So that's awesome to hear.
41:03
We're going, we're going to Pivot a little bit here to some
41:06
more. I'll call him fun questions.
41:09
Not so much hokey related. Not NFL related.
41:12
I will start out with this one because I'm the movie guy.
41:15
Okay, Curtis Curtis likes movies but I I'm the big movie head
41:19
here. Everybody has this like, it's a
41:23
bad movie. Everybody knows it's a bad
41:25
movie, but you love it. And every time it's on, you
41:28
going to watch it. What's that movie for you?
41:36
Wow. Apollyon go ask by Eddie Murphy.
41:44
There we go, there we go. You know, Eddie Murphy even when
41:51
the movies bad is still good because it's got Eddie Murphy in
41:54
it. No no everybody's Watch Beverly
41:59
Hills Cop 3, it ain't the original everybody.
42:09
Trash Haunted Mansion. But I enjoyed myself.
42:17
Okay. So this is kind of a question
42:24
your personality but also what happened back in the day, you
42:29
know, in the locker room, what were those three songs that were
42:34
going to get played to get you guys ready and in no particular
42:39
order and every day at Virginia Tech.
42:42
So this is our hating early 2000s.
42:47
With a three go twos. Hmm, it probably been in some
42:52
some form of DMX rest in peace, rest in peace, something like
42:58
this. Just listen.
43:03
There it is. That's it.
44:03
That's it. Don't slip.
44:19
Gay men because that was the only championship game ever
44:21
played in the Orange Bowl and y'all took it from him baby?
44:25
Work them out. Yes.
44:28
I wore more one more Banger from the early 2000s that was in the
44:31
Hokies locker room. Hmm, there probably would have
44:35
been one to Jay-Z. Something's That would have been
44:40
a gift and a curse that I wanted.
44:41
Came up your tune the curse. Okay.
44:44
That sounds about right. The big boy.
45:08
That's right. Oh, I can just carry that one
45:10
device. Yeah, this is way better.
45:21
You know we obviously we watched your career from the day you got
45:25
there into the day retired and now it's fun for us just
45:28
following you you know your career in coaching because you
45:32
know obviously we were talking about it before we got on.
45:36
You got that bug you know you went to Tampa Bay Wife and Kids
45:41
living in New Orleans, you come back.
45:43
They basically say, hey, you're hired, yeah, you're a coach.
45:50
So I mean in, I see nothing in my opinion of knowing the
45:55
individual, you are. I see nothing but good things
46:00
ahead. I hopefully I see a Super Bowl
46:02
ring the next time you work out, maybe know as you know, that
46:09
would be sweet. I'm hoping you get it for you
46:12
but I would like it like it to go another way, but if you ended
46:17
up getting it, I would feel like this is s number two for me.
46:20
That's all good. You guys are being child there
46:25
tonight. This is Darryl, Tapp there a
46:27
path is not Chop. Prime C, Glenn Curtiss, Wilson
46:31
are not shy guys. We got it was funny Darrell
46:35
again, I won't, we really appreciate this.
46:37
We reached out to you in February and asked, would you
46:39
like to come on? You were straight up with this.
46:41
You said, give me a few months, your liking a few months, and I
46:46
got to make this move and everything.
46:48
Given month, we hit you, you hit us back.
46:50
And basically say I'll do it. Thank you for not saying like
46:55
3:00 made me choose. Come on neighbors.
47:02
Couch tonight. Bad mood or anything like that.
47:34
Like I always want to make sure you guys appreciate it for
47:37
everything. You did to help me and we really
47:40
appreciate you and you definitely, you know, out there
47:43
showing the best of what Hokie nation is all about.
47:45
So we really appreciate that too.
47:47
You really are a man. Well folks that is going to wrap
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