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MMA fighter charged with killing ex-girlfriend & others, escapes as prison van stops at McDonalds · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Temple Police now say the Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: State Medical Examiner's Office has positively identified the bodies found
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  Speaker 1: in rural Oakfusky County as Jenniscott and Michael Sweringeon. On
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  Speaker 1: January ninth, Temple police requested help from Oklahoma state investigators
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  Speaker 1: in connection to a homicide investigation after two bodies were
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  Speaker 1: found in Oklahoma. The two have been missing since January fourth,
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  Speaker 1: and their car was found abandoned in Austin a few
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  Speaker 1: days later. How did a twenty eight year old Texas
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  Speaker 1: mother and her friend thirty two go all the way
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  Speaker 1: from Texas and end up dead and shallow graves in Oklahoma?
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks later? I, Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. How in the world
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  Speaker 1: at twenty eight year old Ginnis Scott and thirty two
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  Speaker 1: year old Michael Swearingen end up in Oklahoma in a
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  Speaker 1: rural town, in one shallow grave. It is three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty miles from where they went missing in Temple, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: To ask you, Wilcott judge, lawyer anchor. You can find
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  Speaker 1: her at Asky Wilcott dot com. It's my understanding the
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  Speaker 1: two had been at Swearingean's home they're in Temple, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: and that they go missing. We find out that his car,
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  Speaker 1: swere Engine's car is then found in Austin, Texas. You
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  Speaker 1: know that's three Yeah, it is that far away, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: And they don't know why his car was in Austin
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  Speaker 1: at this point in time, nor do they know where
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  Speaker 1: the two individuals are, what state, what city, and so
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  Speaker 1: it's shrouded in mystery. Why was this car in Austin.
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  Speaker 1: We also know that they were in a hidden grave,
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  Speaker 1: just a shallow grave hidden. But then the story progresses
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  Speaker 1: to Robin Willinsky Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter or
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  Speaker 1: author of Beautiful Life CSI by Casey Anthony trial on Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: As always, you start looking at the husband, the boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: the X. Tell me what happened next, Robin. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Police start looking as see at the tentacles. Who is
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  Speaker 1: this woman involved with? Who's her friend involved with? And
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  Speaker 1: they come up with an X whose name is Cedric Marks,
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, you know, well, where is he? And
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  Speaker 1: maybe he has something to do with it, and then
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  Speaker 1: it turns out that her home had been burglarized, and
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  Speaker 1: they start looking at the court records and she, you know,
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  Speaker 1: had paperworker, oh right, whose home was burglarized, Jenni Scott.
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  Speaker 1: And there's paperwork, and there's paperwork court documents that show
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  Speaker 1: that she was getting a restraining order against him. So
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  Speaker 1: clearly there was a matter between these two guys. Don't
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  Speaker 1: forget to surveillance equipment was missing from the home. I'm
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  Speaker 1: learning more about Cedric Marks. I'm understanding that he was
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  Speaker 1: a pretty accomplished MMA fighter. To Stephen Lampley for Detective Steven,
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  Speaker 1: what can you tell me about his career as an
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  Speaker 1: m M A fighter? Well, answe his record is about
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  Speaker 1: he's got a lot of wins. I think his records
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  Speaker 1: about thirty thirty. He's about fifty fifty. He's apparently very
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  Speaker 1: good at what he does. But in addition to that,
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  Speaker 1: he has, from what I understand, a very lengthy criminal
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  Speaker 1: record in a very violent past. So this gentleman is
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  Speaker 1: obviously a suspect, a very strong suspect in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us for an interview today is Cedric Marks. Cedric,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing? Fantastic Good's great to have you
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  Speaker 1: on and you're fighting Bobby Booker for Shamrock FC this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: So first of all, tell us about that fight and
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  Speaker 1: how you're feeling in preparation for it. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: training like Hebrew slaves, you know, I always do for
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  Speaker 1: all my fights. You know, this guy, I've seen a
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  Speaker 1: couple of his fights. Now, I don't know a lot
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  Speaker 1: about him, and I don't like look at a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people's fights before, you know, going up against him.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that when I started fighting, we had no
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  Speaker 1: YouTube back then, so there was just you know, you
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  Speaker 1: get in there with some opponent wherever they bring you,
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  Speaker 1: count everything, you take care of business. From that point
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  Speaker 1: about the only things that I do know about him
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  Speaker 1: is that he can take a lot of damage. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to work on a few strategies
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  Speaker 1: for that. Okay, you're hearing sound of the boyfriend, the
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  Speaker 1: former boyfriend sedgick marks. You know, I'm curious, Karen start.
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  Speaker 1: You were bringing up a really important part regarding the
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  Speaker 1: surveillance video in Jenna Scott's home. Yes, Nancy, the surveillance video,
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  Speaker 1: she hadn't stood, I'm sure because she was fearful about
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  Speaker 1: this man who was a fighter is missing. So somebody
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  Speaker 1: was smarten to know that they would take that surveillance
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  Speaker 1: video which leads South playing you know, Bache Robin Willinski
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  Speaker 1: Crime a line dot com investigative reporter. Does the name
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  Speaker 1: April Peas ring a bell to you? It actually does.
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  Speaker 1: This is a woman that mister Marx was involved with
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  Speaker 1: ten years ago. He actually has a son with this
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  Speaker 1: woman and she's been gone nowhere to be found ten years. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, Wait a minute, So this is another
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  Speaker 1: X of Cedric Marks, the mixed martial arts professional April Peas,
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  Speaker 1: missing since two thousand and nine, vanished while in the
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  Speaker 1: midst of a custody battle with Cedric Marks. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get Ashy Wilcott. What do women see and
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's a professional fighter. Do you think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to change his personality when he gets home? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not at all, Nancy. Not only that, I am so
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  Speaker 1: greatly disturbed by the fact that there's another X from
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine who's missing vanished. All of these
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  Speaker 1: things together as yes, I'm gonna point fingers and say
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  Speaker 1: I hope that he is certainly a person of interest.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is what we are learning that back
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  Speaker 1: in July, she Jenna Scott, applied for a protective order
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  Speaker 1: against Cedric Marks. This is as you heard earlier from
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  Speaker 1: Robin after he broke into her home and threatened her
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  Speaker 1: and her daughter. Now in the arrest affidavit, it claimed,
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  Speaker 1: which we have looked at, he was angry at her
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  Speaker 1: for ending their relationship when we tried to break it off.
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  Speaker 1: When she tried to break it off, he choked her
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  Speaker 1: and threatened her. According to the police affidavit, he broke
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  Speaker 1: into at home August twenty eight she lived there with
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  Speaker 1: her daughter, by going in through the garage, and she,
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  Speaker 1: Jenna Scott, was alerted when an alarm told her where
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  Speaker 1: he was in the house. And that's not uncommon where
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, where your alarm tells you which window or
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  Speaker 1: door has been breached. So she even came in through
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  Speaker 1: the garage. Steve Lampley, Yeah, I mean, the long systems
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  Speaker 1: are very very good these days. They can tell you
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  Speaker 1: what points they come in and at some points where
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  Speaker 1: you are in the house itself as you progress through
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  Speaker 1: the home. So yeah, I mean she was very capable
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  Speaker 1: of along where he was or whoever it was. That
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  Speaker 1: they'd given time, So according to this alf of David,
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  Speaker 1: it's police half of David. Correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: Robin Wilensky. When she confronts him about being in her house,
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  Speaker 1: he grabs the phone she was carrying out of her hand.
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  Speaker 1: She screams to her nine year old daughter that she
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  Speaker 1: had told to stay in her bedroom to call nine
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  Speaker 1: one one, but then he orders her not to call
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  Speaker 1: nine one and says to Jenna, it's your word against mine,
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  Speaker 1: that he had friends in the police department and if
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  Speaker 1: she reported him, she'd be in so much danger she'd
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  Speaker 1: have to enter the witness protection program. I mean, really,
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  Speaker 1: I've got friends ends in the police department, Robi Willinsky.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that's all true. You know, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of threats going on here. Also to the point
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  Speaker 1: one other thing adding to that list that he actually
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  Speaker 1: chokes her and causes her to pants out. So if
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  Speaker 1: here's a guy who's an MMA fighter who knows how
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  Speaker 1: to do that, he knows where to, you know, touch
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  Speaker 1: you around the neck, so you're gone, you're out. Scott
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  Speaker 1: and her friend Michael swearing Gin have been missing since
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  Speaker 1: January fourth, but yesterday two bodies were found near Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: City that are believed to be Scott and swearing Gin.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know the facts of everything yet, but that's
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  Speaker 1: looking pretty scary, you know, if indeed we're looking at
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a homicide, two homicides in a picture,
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  Speaker 1: and still her daughter's missing and this guys in jail.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, Marks has not been charged with murder,
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  Speaker 1: but today he was named a person of interest in
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  Speaker 1: the two thousand nine disappearance of April Peas you want
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  Speaker 1: answers say, I do they last to be heard. She's
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  Speaker 1: going to go to Minnesota for treatment and my sister
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  Speaker 1: is hopeful with that, and we didn't hear anything after that.
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  Speaker 1: Pieces uncle says. The worst part is the not knowing,
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  Speaker 1: not knowing if she's just hiding somewhere or she is
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  Speaker 1: in fact dead. She's not hiding, okay, She's not been
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  Speaker 1: hiding since two thousand and nine. You're hearing from our
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  Speaker 1: friends that would a TV Grand Rapids, Michigan. That was
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  Speaker 1: Heather Walker speaking with April Pieces uncle in Michigan. She's
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  Speaker 1: not hiding, okay. The harsh reality is that she, April
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  Speaker 1: is dead and I don't understand why. Just now her
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  Speaker 1: then boyfriend and they're in the middle of a heated
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  Speaker 1: custody battle. Says Mark is just now a person of interest.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pushing me over the Ashley Willcott because
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  Speaker 1: if that case had been handled correctly, then we wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be here right now finding two bodies in a shallow
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  Speaker 1: grave in Oklahoma. Oh, I completely agree with you. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what frustrates me with these crimes when you have
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  Speaker 1: basically career criminals that nothing's ever happened to them. Cases
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  Speaker 1: aren't investigated, they aren't charged, they aren't tried, and as
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  Speaker 1: a result, what do they do? They have the same
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  Speaker 1: crime they commit again. And I hate to say this,
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  Speaker 1: I just I think he is the one that did this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want any other potential suspects to be eliminated,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to say my gut is on this one.
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  Speaker 1: He is involved in these murders. So Robert Willinski help
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  Speaker 1: me sort through this. Okay. He breaks into Jenna. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning. He has a child with
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  Speaker 1: April Pas. They get into a big custody battle. She
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  Speaker 1: goes missing, all right, number one, that's in Ashgan. Fast forward.
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  Speaker 1: He gets in a relationship Jenna Scott. She already has
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  Speaker 1: a nine year old daughter. They have a problem because
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  Speaker 1: he breaks in, he's violent, and they issued a rest
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  Speaker 1: warrant for the home invasion. Do I have it so far? Robin?
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  Speaker 1: That is correct. The only thing missing there is that
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  Speaker 1: she actually, if you're curious how these two met, they
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  Speaker 1: met on tender and then the relationship goes sour and
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  Speaker 1: she gets the restraining order against restraining order, and that's
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  Speaker 1: after he breaks in through the garage. Then suddenly she
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  Speaker 1: goes missing and she turns up in a shallow grave
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty miles away. Wow, I wonder who
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  Speaker 1: did that? And then a break in the case. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: Temple Police are continuing their investigation into Marks. He was
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  Speaker 1: arrested in Michigan last week for allegedly breaking into Scott's
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  Speaker 1: home back in August, and he's now in the process
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  Speaker 1: of being extraded back to Bell County. Before that break in,
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  Speaker 1: Jenna Scott was afraid was going to hurt her. On
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  Speaker 1: July twenty seventh, she filed for a protective order. In it,
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  Speaker 1: she claimed Marx told her he killed pets when he
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  Speaker 1: was a child and that he killed someone in Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: covered it up and could do the same in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: She claimed Marx was a master manipulator, a pathological liar,
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  Speaker 1: and a psychopath. But this order was dismissed. Right now
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  Speaker 1: we don't know why. And today we received new details
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  Speaker 1: about Marks pass with a different woman, April Peace. She
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  Speaker 1: is the mother of Mark's son. Court documents say the
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  Speaker 1: two were in a bitter custody battle over their son
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  Speaker 1: in Washington State. The documents described Marx as someone with
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  Speaker 1: aggressive behavior but who was in complete denial that he
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  Speaker 1: has issues around domestic violence. Peace went to a protected
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  Speaker 1: location with their son because she claimed she was afraid
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  Speaker 1: of Marx, and ultimately got custody of their son because
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  Speaker 1: her living situation was more predictable. But in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of that custody battle, she went missing. Peace was last
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  Speaker 1: seen on March seventeenth, two thousand and nine, in Minnesota. Today,
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  Speaker 1: police there confirmed Cedric Marks is being investigated as a
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  Speaker 1: possible person of interest in Piece's disappearance. Minnesota authorities say
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  Speaker 1: they are aware of the developments here in Texas and
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  Speaker 1: will follow up on any new and relevant information impacting
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  Speaker 1: her case now. Earlier today, I spoke with Jenna's father,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Scott about April piece in Mark's possible connection to
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  Speaker 1: her disappearance. This is what he had to say. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not surprised at all. Man terrorized my daughter for two
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  Speaker 1: and a half years, the almost three years. If that
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  Speaker 1: is the case, and they are these cases are linked,
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  Speaker 1: then hopefully justice will be served again. He is expected
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  Speaker 1: to be back in Bell County facing burglary charges. You
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  Speaker 1: are hearing from our friends at Ksee NTV. That's NBC
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  Speaker 1: reporter Cole Johnson and speaking to Jenna Scott's dad. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Robin Whiskey that the plot is thickening. So he gets arrested.
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  Speaker 1: But he is arrested on the home invasion to Jenna's garage.
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  Speaker 1: What happens next? So, Nancy, here's what happens. They pick
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  Speaker 1: this guy up in Michigan. They pick him up and
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  Speaker 1: they start transporting him back to Texas along with some
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  Speaker 1: other prisoners. And oh, by the way, somebody's hungry. So
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  Speaker 1: they stop at McDonald's and guess what, Nancy, he escaped.
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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, you got a truck load
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  Speaker 1: of felons and somebody gets hungry, so they stop at McDonald's.
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  Speaker 1: Did I just hear that that say yes, no, Robin,
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  Speaker 1: is that right? That is correct? Ashley Wilcott, Have I
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  Speaker 1: lost my mind? Somebody gets hungry. You got a van
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  Speaker 1: full of felons and you stop at McDonald's. Hold on,
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  Speaker 1: before I go to Ashley, I want you to listen
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  Speaker 1: to this newser listening this morning. At approximately seven twenty am,
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  Speaker 1: the Conrad Police dispatched Racy to call from Texas Prisoners
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  Speaker 1: Transport Services advising of an escapee from their transport van.
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  Speaker 1: The escapee, identified as Cedric Joseph Marks. She's a blackmail.
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  Speaker 1: The date of birth is set in fifteen of seventy four.
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  Speaker 1: Was able to elude custody when the transport van stopped
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  Speaker 1: at McDonald's at eight oh one North Loupe, three thirty
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  Speaker 1: six west. Marks escaped on foot and in an eastern direction.
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  Speaker 1: Marx was in the transport was in transport from Grand Rapids, Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: after being captured by the US Marshals for a warrant
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  Speaker 1: for a burglary of a habitation with intent to commit
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  Speaker 1: another felony. The Texas Prisoner Transport Services was in routes
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  Speaker 1: to Bell County at the time of their stop. Marx
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  Speaker 1: also has warrants for the murders of Michael Swearingen, aged
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  Speaker 1: thirty two, and Jenna Scott, aged twenty eight, in an
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  Speaker 1: investigation that began in Temple, Texas in January of two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen. The Condoro Police Department and the mcgomner
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  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office are working in conjunction with multiple state
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  Speaker 1: and local agencies to apprehend the suspect. We have air support,
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  Speaker 1: Kane tracking dog from TJ, and multiple ground units searching
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  Speaker 1: the area. Our primary concern is for the safety of
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  Speaker 1: our community. We have sent notifications to our citizens to
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  Speaker 1: multiple sources, including emergency notification systems, the media, and social media.
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  Speaker 1: We urge our citizens to allow law enforcement to conduct
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  Speaker 1: this investigation. You are hearing the police newser regarding the escape. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you heard me, the escape of Cedric Marks at a McDonald's.
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  Speaker 1: How come they're transporting nine people? Somebody gets hungary, they
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  Speaker 1: have to stop. They couldn't hold it until they got
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  Speaker 1: to where they were going. Out of the nine felons
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  Speaker 1: on that vehicle, only Cedric Marks escapes. If seeing do
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  Speaker 1: not attempt to make contact with Marks, contact nine one
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  Speaker 1: one immediately. The circumstances surrounding the escape or this escape
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  Speaker 1: are currently under investigation, including interviews with the transport company
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  Speaker 1: and other inmates on the transport van. We appreciate this
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  Speaker 1: sistence understanding of the public in this fluid and very
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  Speaker 1: serious situation. We will continue to keep our citizens updated
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  Speaker 1: through social media and our media partners. Are there any
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  Speaker 1: questions at this time? Can you repeat again? Who needs
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  Speaker 1: to stay? You are advising to stay, advising citizens who
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  Speaker 1: live in the area between one oh five and the
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  Speaker 1: North Loop on both sides of forty fives just to
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  Speaker 1: stay indoors as they can. Can you tell how many
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  Speaker 1: other people were on the transport van? There were two
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  Speaker 1: guards or employees from the transport van and I told
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  Speaker 1: of ten prisoners and one escape piece, So we have
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  Speaker 1: nine additional inmates on the van. Hi Nancy Grace here?
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  Speaker 1: Climb stories with Nancy Grace. Please found his car in
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Austin when they first went missing in January. And tonight,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: swearing Jon's girlfriend is speaking to us for the first time.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Kavi's Kayla Norwood has been on this story all day. Kayleen,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: there are questions, as she once answered tonight, the big
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: question is how could this happen? Please say? Marks escaped
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: at a McDonald's and conrow hours later. Swearingen's girlfriend is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: relieved that he is back in custody, but the victim's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: family's fear for their lives when they got word he
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: had escaped right when you think it can't get any
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: word today, please say Cedric Marks managed to break free
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: when his prison transport advance dot for food at a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: McDonald's and conrow. He's accused of killing his ex girlfriend
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Jenna Scott and her friend Michael Swearingen. Their bodies were
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: found buried in Oklahoma last month with two guards in
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: charge of ten inmates. Please say it at around seven
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: thirty Sunday morning, Mars got away. It's unbelievable. It is
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: unbelievable that this whole thing is just honestly a nightmare.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That swearing Jin's girlfriend, Rachel Foster two had known each
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: other since high school, but started dating about a year ago.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: She says she was in love with swearing Gin and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: ever since he went missing January fourth, she's been through
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a whirlwind of emotions. You go fund depression that this anger,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and with the more recent news of his death, there's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a lot she misses about him. Helen everything, We absolutely
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: agree the news of Mark's escape only added to the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: pain and fear. Stop at a McDonald's and he's triple shot,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: triple shackled at the hands. Your hands are the shackle
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to your waist, Your waist. It's like a chain belt
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: around your waist, our shackle to your ankles. McDonald's, Karen,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Why are they stopping at a
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: McDonald's with a double killer, possibly a serial killer, possibly
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: a serial killer and in that band there were nine
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: people who are shackled, And how in the world, Nancy
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: did he get away? It makes me I really, it's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: so reminiscent in some ways about OJ and here she
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: issues with a friend, not a boyfriend, as they're murdered,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and this guy is on running away and they're chasing him.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It's just so strange, unbelievable. You know, to Stephen Lampley,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you're the renowned detective. You've worked with felons your whole life.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they've got nine felons in there and
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: they go to McDonald's. That's the whole reason. They have
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: bars on transport vans so nobody can get out, and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: this one guy gets out. Stephen Lampley, Nancy and I
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: know they're one from I've got friends who did the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: tip done to transport before. And they're going from Michigan
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to Texas. They've got a long trip and they're allowed
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to make rest stops and meal stops. But my concern
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: is how what was the situation that they allowed this
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Marks guy to escape? But what I'm having a hard
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: time wrapping my head around that what kind of situation
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: they created that would allow this to happen? You know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Robin Willinsky, climb Online dot Com investigative reporter, you have
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: inside information. What did you learn, Robin? You know, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: was listening to Lieutenant Dorsey McGinnis with the Conro, Texas
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Police Department, and there was a nugget at the very
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: end of her very intense news conference when Cedric Marks
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: is on the run, when he's on the loose, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it was her belief that he was not in handcuffs.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And my question is why not? She seemed to pin
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it on the Texas Prisoner Transport Services that they were
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: going to interview see all the other prisoners that whoever
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: was driving that prison van. But if he wasn't in handcuffs,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that is just an incredible developer. Oh no, not in handcuffs.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Oh man, man, we know of two people we think
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he killed, Jenni scot to Michael Sweringeon. Now you've got
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the other woman, April Peas he's a person of interest
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: in that. Finally after about ten years. But listen to this.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Did you hear this, Robin Willinski? It was on Lieutenant
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Dorsey McGinnis with a Conro police department, speaking at that
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: news conference in the last hours. He said there were
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: two employees from Transport Service, nine inmates and quote we
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: quote we do believe there was still one guard in
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the van or near the van. They didn't say, yes,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: there was a guard in the van. Yes, there was
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a guard standing beside the van. No, they go we
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: thee there might have been a guard at the van.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it. No wonder the victims
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: families are so upset, Robin Willinski, Yeah, because who is
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: guarding this guy? Who's in charge? Who's larger in charge?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You have people that are accused on that van of felonies,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of murders, of burglaries. Who is in charge from this
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: very long van trip from Michigan all the way down
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: to Texas. That's a really long ride. You need people
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: who are larger in charge. Nancy, Well, I know they
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: have to stop to go to the bathroom. I know
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they've got to stop to stand up, or to drive
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: through somewhere, but you don't leave the vehicle unattended with
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a bunch of felons sitting in there with nothing to lose, Okay,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: nothing to lose. And they can't tell me for sure
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: there was a guard. We do believe there was still
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: one guard in the van or near the van. I mean,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: this guy is on the hot seat, Lieutenant Dorsey McGinnis
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: trying to, you know, make sense of what's happening. That's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: what we know right now. So Robert Willnsky, the search
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: is on for SEDGEC. Marks. Listen, please say. Marks escaped
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: at a McDonald's and conro on the run for hours.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: He had labor streets hander strains in a belliger screen
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: with two guards in charge of ten inmates. Please see.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: At around seven thirty Sunday morning, Marks got away located
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in the one thousand block of Windswept hiding in the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: trash can. Marks taken back into custody without a fright.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So Robert Willinsky, he's found in a trash key and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: where Yeah, he's found in Texas. They get word out
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: from the lieutenant and so they're they're on the lookout
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: for him. And he's pretty easy to spot. He's a
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: big guy in an orange prison jumpsuit, Nancy, and they
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: kind of close in on him near a walmart and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: somebody spotted him and the next thing you know, he's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: found in a trash can. It must have been a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: pretty large trash can. And he only has the prison
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: pants on. He's naked from the waist up, and wow,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: does he look terrible. And then they finally put him
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: in the shackles and they have the pants. They kind
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of tie his pants on. In the video you can
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: see that they don't want his pants to come off too.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And then they finally lock him down and throw him
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: in a police car. Take listen to sens Kelly Harton.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: It took air support ground units in K nine tracking
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: jogs to find cedric marks. After this nine hour man hunt.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: He escaped from this prison transport van as it was parked. McDonald's.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: One of the drivers of the vehicle was near the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: vehicle at the time of his escape. Of course, that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: matter is under investigation. He took off on foot, but
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: as it turns out, he didn't get very far. He
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: was discovered in the backyard of a home in the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: neighborhood just behind that McDonald's listened to a recount of
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: his capture from the man who lived next door to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that home. R anybody running, police running in and scramming
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: on everything or are they saying? I was saying, hey,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: stop stop persisting and pretty much like my sister. She
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: was over there in the room and she heards some
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: noises when whenever they got him, did you see him?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: See him when they drab him and pulled the handcoats? Arrabaton?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: What was he wearing? Orange dump sue? So Marx was
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: arrested for the burglary of his ex girlfriend's home and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the intention to commit another felony. He was found in
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Michigan by US marshals. So he was being in in
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the process of extradited back to Texas when he managed
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to escape and this man hunting suit. He is also
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: looking at pending murder charges for three murders, including that
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: same ex girlfriend whose home he burglarized the community of Conrad, Texas.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Can rest easier tonight, but this story is far from over.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: He tells how many other people were on the transport van. Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: there were two guards from or employees from the transport
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: van and a total of ten prisoners and one escape piece,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: so we have nine additional inmates on the vand so
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: was he being supervised when he escaped. We are currently
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: conducting an investigation regarding all that situation, so I can
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just say right now, that's an investigation. We do believe
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: there was one still in van or a new van.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Is he wearing or restraints to your knowledge right now
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: or was he able to do? That's still an investigation.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: We do not believe he's any kind of hand restraints. Okay,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: so anyone sees anybody out there if they wouldn't expect
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that he would have any type of restraining on land,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: not necessarily. But again that's still under investigation. We don't
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: have a good we don't even an answer for that yet.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: No hand restraints. You are hearing the police news or
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: after subject marks escapes. Let's get back down to it.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So he's found in a trash can, how fitting Robert Lensky.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: We've got him now, right, I'm not even going to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: talk about him not wearing handcuffs and apparently the guard
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: not being in or beside the vehicle to keep using
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the word near which could mean inside, having a cup
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: of coffee, occasionally looking at the van for all I know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. But let me
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: get past that if I can, because it's making my
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: teeth hurt. But we have him now, now, Robin Wilenski,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: how can I tie him other than planal common sense
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to the murders of Jenni Scott and Michael Swearingen. What
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: are his connections to Oklahoma? Oklahoma keeps popping up over
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and over, Robin. Remember he told somebody he had killed
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: someone in Oklahoma. Now, these two bodies are found in Oklahoma,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere. And I say that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: with a lot of love because they came from a
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: rural area where you could see nothing but soybean fields
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and pine trees. But out in the middle of nowhere,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: there's like under one hundred people that even live in
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that community in a hidden shallow grave. So what's his
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: connection to Oklahoma? And how the hey, Robin Wilensky, did
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: they ever find the shallow grave? My understanding of the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: situation is that he owned some land out there in
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the middle of Nowheresville in Oklahoma, and like you say,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: less than a hundred people live in the town, so
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: he was very familiar with it and it's the kind
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of place where noan would bother I guess to look,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: except that someone did stumble upon this shallow grave and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: called the police. Well, I've also learned, well, Jackie Howard
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: here in the studio learned cash this Robin Lensky. His
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: dad grew up in clear View? Is that what you said? Jack?
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Clear View, Oklahoma? And they have a reunion every year.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Now I can tell you this. My dad was born
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: in hay Cody, Alabama. Hey Cody, Alabama? Have you ever
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: heard of that? Probably not? It's near up opp Have
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you ever heard of that? Well, that's near Sampson. You
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: ever heard of that? Well, that's near the Panhandle. All right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: now you're getting towards Mobile, Alabama. So let me tell
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you if he wanted to hide a body up or
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: hey cody' is the place to go, just like this spot.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So that's the connection. Stephen Lampley, renowned detective. Wow, that's uh,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: that's going way back right to find this spot in Oklahoma.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: That took some police work, Stephen Lampley. Well, Nancy and
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the what the clues were, or
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: what the what the information they had was. Accept the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: fact that he is from that area. You're correct, his
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: dad grew up in that area. A matter of fact,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: they have. But like you said, the Labor Day reunions
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: every year. So I'm I want to assume that that
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: was their connection and he didn't bury my understanding, he
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: didn't bury these two on his land, but on the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: land of another gentleman that is I think close by there. Wow,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot. This guy, sedgric Marks, the mixed
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: martial arts specialist, does have that direct connection too clear
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: for you. Oklahoma, where the bodies of Michael Swerringeon and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Jenna Scott were found. His father grew up in that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: small town of only about sixty people, and as Jackie
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Howard tells me, his family hosts a reunion there every year. Now,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: we managed to track down some court records in Tulsa
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: County in Oklahoma. Those shows he has the felony charges
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and attempted
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: escape for an incident dating back to nineteen ninety two.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: They were dropped, but the court records show he pled
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: guilty to an attempt at robbery in a firearm charge
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and ninety two. All right, so this guy has quite
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the history back in Oklahoma, so they go straight back
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to that land and there you go. We find out
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: he served six years in an Okay prison after that
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: guilty plea. He got out in ninety eight according to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the court documents we managed to get. Wow, you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: it just goes on and on. So then Karen Stark,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: he comes straight out of prison and he gets into
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: mixed martial arts and actually has a pretty good record
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: at it. So what do you make of that, Karen Start,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you're the shrink. I'm not surprised this man who's history
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of violence and so when they can be only stronger,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and he certainly wants to intimidate people. So it sounds perfect,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: perfect profile. Manti. I think it speaks volumes, Karen Stark.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: This other woman, April Pas had to go live in
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: a Better Women's shelter because, as you know, I volunteered
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: at the Atlanta Better Women's Center for nine years at
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: night when I was a prosecutor. And these women come
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: from every walk of life. When I mean it could
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: be rich, poor, It doesn't matter your religion or your color,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and you have no where you can go that's safe.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And she had to take April Pa herself and her
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: son by cygric marks and go hide and about her
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Women's center, Karen Starr's. And if you think about a Nancy,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: is it do for her? I mean, there are so
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: many people out there who are violent and in that situation,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: unfortunately there she went to hide. Unfortunately this person in
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: the shallow where she did not, and he was able
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to commit crimes anyway, so there was really no place
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for her to hide. What happens now to Robin Willinski,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigated reporter author of Beautiful Life
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Cshibs behind the Casey Anthony trial on Amazon. Robin, what's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: going to happen now? I want to find out a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the mode of death caught, the cod cause of death
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and mode of death if we know Michael Sweringeon and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Jenna Scott who is leaving behind a little nine year
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: old girl. And I want to find out the jurisdiction
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: where we think they marder has occurred, because I want
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: to find out they've got the death penalty. Robin Lensky, Yeah,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I think the first thing they're gonna do, the medical
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: examiner is, you know, obviously going to look at those
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: bodies also see if there's his DNA on either is
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: their DNA at that scene in Oklahoma? Did the murders Robin? Robin,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you know how much I love and respect you, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: please Okay, he's having a battle with Jenna Scott. He
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: breaks in her house. She's found dad four hundred and
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: fifty miles away and shallow grave in his hometown where
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: he has family reunions every year. What do you think
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: like a little gray man from ours came in and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: killed her and swearr engine and then transported their bodies.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: He did it? Need the DNA evidence? You're you're gonna
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: need the DNA evidence for the jury. You know, we
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: saw how Anthony went when you didn't have when the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: prosecution doesn't connect the dots, and so they're gonna need
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that DNA. So where did it happen, Robin? Where did
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: it happen? Once day? Question that either happened in Texas
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: or Oklahoma, And so in Texas you have we penalty
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in both, so I think that he's cool. Well, okay,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I need to know nothing more. Oklahoma and Texas they
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: both have the death penalty, and more than one body
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: under the law is mass murder. So this guy's nickname
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: is Spider Man in the MMA circuit. Good luck getting
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: out of jail this time, buddy. We wait as justice unfalls.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace con Story signing off, Goodbye friend,