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Ian Furness 10/12 H3: Mike Sando, talk and text therapy, righting our FoF wrongs and Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: And then yesterday afternoon, a 5-3 win over the Capitals.
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  Speaker 2: In D.C., Washington had only had one regulation loss dating
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in Pullman. Caden Pinnock, thank God, being benched. And
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  Speaker 2: Owen Esselman will get the start. Elijah Brown looks like
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  Speaker 2: he's going to get the practice reps in for the
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  Speaker 1: It's time for our Monday visit with Mike Sando of
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  Speaker 1: or visit HuntServices.com. Now with Mike Sando, here's Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sando of The Athletic. NFL senior writer. We love
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  Speaker 1: having him on every week. Also a voter for the
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  Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. And every Monday we check
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  Speaker 2: So much to discuss. Got a big Monday night game tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Got last night's, yesterday's action, all the stuff that went on. Hello, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Good. How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Not bad. Not bad. A lot of NFL to discuss. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: real quick. I want to get to this real fast.
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  Speaker 2: You are one of the, and I say this in
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  Speaker 2: all sincerity, one of the esteemed former writers of the
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  Speaker 2: Tacoma News Tribune. which it's remarkable. That newspaper produced such
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  Speaker 2: great journalism, sports journalism specifically, I'm talking about over the years.
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  Speaker 2: People like yourself, the late Professor John Clayton, Bart Wright,
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  Speaker 2: Dave Bolling, I go on and on forever. And Greg Bell,
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  Speaker 2: kind of the last of the group laid off with
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  Speaker 2: the changes that we have in the newspaper business. Just
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  Speaker 2: a quick thought from you, because I know it's probably
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  Speaker 2: got to be disappointing seeing your former employer do what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing right now.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 5: I think that this is one of those situations where
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  Speaker 5: they're just they cut the expenses faster than the revenue
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  Speaker 5: falls and squeeze it all out to kill it. It's
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  Speaker 5: not a, hey, we're really trying to make a go
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  Speaker 5: of this.
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  Speaker 3: That's my impression.
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  Speaker 5: So, you know, it's not to me, it's not just
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  Speaker 5: the realities of news business.
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  Speaker 3: It's also I mean, it is.
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  Speaker 5: A reality of it, but I don't think that it's
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  Speaker 5: necessarily in the best faith what's going on. So that's
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  Speaker 5: my two cents on that from the editorial page. If
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  Speaker 5: they had one, that would be on the editorial page. Um, and, uh,
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  Speaker 5: it is a tough thing to see now we're also
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  Speaker 5: in a, you know, a disruptive time in the industry
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  Speaker 5: and it's revolutionary and things are changing. So that's part
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  Speaker 5: of it too. And things haven't just totally shaken out.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm not blind to that. A lot of great
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  Speaker 5: memories there, you know? Um, uh, and every time I'm,
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  Speaker 5: you know, every time I see the old building that
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  Speaker 5: used to be there, you know, they used to have
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  Speaker 5: a massive, wonderful building over there, uh, you know, off
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  Speaker 5: of 19th and Tacoma and, There was Dale Chihuly glass
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  Speaker 5: sculptures in there, and it was awesome to walk in there.
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  Speaker 3: It was impressive. And that whole building was razed, smashed down.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a warehouse or something. I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: if they have an office.
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  Speaker 5: It's just really– you wouldn't even know it's here.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't know that the News Tribune exists. It's sad.
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave it with this. The legacy that is left
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  Speaker 2: behind is– immense what you and others built and did
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  Speaker 2: down there. It really is remarkable. I've worked in two
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  Speaker 2: other big markets or decent-sized markets in Salt Lake and Portland,
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  Speaker 2: and those places have some terrific newspapers as well. The
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  Speaker 2: Salt Lake Tribune, Deseret News, the Oregonian, and they're all
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  Speaker 2: kind of going and falling by the wayside in one way, shape,
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  Speaker 2: or form. But what you guys did there was, I
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  Speaker 2: would just say, special. And I'm sure you guys are
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  Speaker 2: all proud of the legacy, unfortunately, that you left behind.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, NFL news. First, just your impressions on 49ers
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's pretty much been the Seahawks M.O. Play
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  Speaker 5: really good defense and then make enough bad plays on offense,
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  Speaker 5: including careless plays, in the absence of any explosiveness in
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  Speaker 5: the run game, to make it closer than it should
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  Speaker 5: be and even lose. So, to me, this is a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of a repeat of the Washington game. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: it's a repeat of certain stages of the, of the
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  Speaker 5: charger game, uh, even though they were way ahead, it
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  Speaker 5: ended up being closer. And then in this one here,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the play before half just kind of sums
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  Speaker 5: it up. It's just, it's a kind of an unforced error. Uh, so,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I think they're going to be, I think
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  Speaker 5: that they will be okay. Uh, but I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that this is sustainable in terms of sticking with the
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  Speaker 5: same quarterback, this sort of thing forever. Like you can't
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  Speaker 5: have these sorts of things going forever. It's not fair
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  Speaker 5: to the rest of the team.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback as in Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think, I think if you just keep coming out
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  Speaker 5: and throw interceptions on the first play of the game and,
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  Speaker 5: and have multiple turnovers, I don't think that that's a, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I like, I don't think that's a good thing to
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  Speaker 3: let that go.
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying I would make a change right now,
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  Speaker 5: but like, I think you have to believe in accountability
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  Speaker 5: with your team, and so they know better than I
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  Speaker 5: do what's behind all the mistakes and all of that.
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  Speaker 5: But it seems to me, coming out for the first
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  Speaker 5: play of the game, most guys are just running totally
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  Speaker 5: wrong routes.
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  Speaker 3: That can't be a normal thing.
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  Speaker 5: Pick sixes, that sort of stuff just can't be normal. Now,
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  Speaker 5: it may just be resolved when they get their running
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  Speaker 5: back situation squared away. I think that's really, really hurting them. And,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that's killing them.
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  Speaker 2: It's remarkable, too. You wrote about today the 49ers had
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  Speaker 2: an EPA expected. I mean, we talked about this a while,
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  Speaker 2: expected points added. They had a negative EPA, like in
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  Speaker 2: some ways didn't have any business for a long time
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  Speaker 2: winning that football game, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they're double digits worse than average on offense and
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  Speaker 5: special teams. Even though Purdy had a couple of nice
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  Speaker 5: drives late, you know, their offense didn't do anything. And
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  Speaker 5: so Seattle's really in a position now where a lot
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  Speaker 5: of their opponents are scoring on real easy drives and
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  Speaker 5: giving touchdowns, recovering a fumble in the end zone like
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  Speaker 5: yesterday or a pick six.
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  Speaker 3: And it's really skewing.
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  Speaker 5: It's letting these teams score 30 points without having their
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  Speaker 5: way at all against the Seattle defense.
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  Speaker 2: What about Minnesota? Undefeated. Who saw that coming, Mike? Who
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  Speaker 2: saw that coming with the Minnesota Vikings?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, not at all.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean, they're so extreme on defense that they,
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  Speaker 5: they've been living this thing that Seattle's in right now for,
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  Speaker 5: for years, you know, and just whenever they win, it's
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  Speaker 5: almost always defense driven. And the only way they really
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  Speaker 5: lose is when the offense is so bad that they
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  Speaker 5: can't overcome it. So this is a three year issue probably.
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  Speaker 5: And if they didn't have that defense, man, it would
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  Speaker 5: be a real ugly situation there. And it would, it
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  Speaker 5: would highlight more of the issues they've had in, Finding
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  Speaker 5: the quarterback and getting that settled down, I think it's
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  Speaker 5: still going to hurt them in the end. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think they can necessarily advance much in the playoffs, but
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  Speaker 5: more power to them defensively, they're going to be probably
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  Speaker 5: in most of these games with a great chance to win.
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  Speaker 2: What's the fallout? What are you hearing about the Washington
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  Speaker 2: Commanders and Dan Quinn and clock management at the end
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  Speaker 2: of that game yesterday that resulted in a tie, which
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  Speaker 2: never should have been a tie. It could have been
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  Speaker 2: a tie if you missed the field goal, but that
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  Speaker 2: should never have happened.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a complete failure that will fall on the
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  Speaker 5: head coach. I think that it could be hard for
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  Speaker 5: him to recover from this in the absence of a
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  Speaker 5: nice run second half of the year. They really get
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  Speaker 5: it going and win. just a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 5: they were beating Seattle, feeling pretty good about themselves. So
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  Speaker 5: things can turn quick in the league. And that's possible that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, with Jaden Daniels as a talent, it's possible
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  Speaker 5: that they still rally. But I think there's, it's a,
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  Speaker 5: it's a major strike and a half against the head coach.
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  Speaker 5: And he's had a couple of strikes already, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the past, just the way certain things played out.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's, he's been forced to, or had to,
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  Speaker 5: or did, you know, get rid of multiple coordinators. I
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  Speaker 5: think that's usually a sign of some, some trouble or distress.
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  Speaker 5: I think there was, some implication. It really didn't, you know,
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  Speaker 5: remember when Jaden Daniels got hurt the first time, hey,
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  Speaker 5: should have Dan Quinn had him out of the game earlier?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's true, but those are the types
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  Speaker 5: of things that sort of pile up and accumulate on
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  Speaker 5: the coach's record that make it hard to recover from.
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  Speaker 5: And I think this was by far the biggest one
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  Speaker 5: and probably the biggest one for any coach this season.
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  Speaker 2: Clock management is a big topic always in football, not
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  Speaker 2: just NFL college as well. And as you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I know you talked to a lot of executives around
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  Speaker 2: the league, For folks who missed it yesterday, the end
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  Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia-Jacksonville game was wild. I mean, it featured
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  Speaker 2: a long kickoff return and a 57-yard field goal with
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  Speaker 2: a backup long snapper defensive tackle snapping the ball, which
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  Speaker 2: earlier had been a huge issue and the regular long
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  Speaker 2: snapper got hurt. But it goes further than that, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because it really should never have got to the point...
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  Speaker 2: where Philadelphia gave the ball back to Jacksonville, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's also, we start talking about the head coach, that's
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  Speaker 2: also an egregious error.
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  Speaker 3: It is. I don't think it's nearly as bad as
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  Speaker 3: the Washington one.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they ran out of bounds trying to get
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  Speaker 5: closer for their field goal. So they had a seven-yard
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  Speaker 5: gain on a pass play that got got it to
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  Speaker 5: where it was a you know a 48 yard field
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  Speaker 5: goal instead of let's just say a 54 or 55
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  Speaker 5: so you need to get those yards but when you
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  Speaker 5: do that you take it you take a chance they're
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  Speaker 5: throwing the ball to a rookie receiver he gets knocked
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  Speaker 5: out of bounds trying to get more yards and it
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  Speaker 5: ended up you know safe time out for uh jacksonville
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  Speaker 5: and the eagles were in a lesser position to run
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  Speaker 5: more time off the clock even then i mean you're
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  Speaker 5: they're kicking off with eight seconds left very much like
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  Speaker 5: dallas was a few weeks ago the big difference was
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  Speaker 5: Jacksonville had no timeouts, so I didn't really have a
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  Speaker 5: problem with them. No matter what you did, you touch
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  Speaker 5: it back, you let them return it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think either one of those was necessarily a
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  Speaker 3: terrible decision.
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  Speaker 5: It was very unlucky, I think, to have Jacksonville get
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  Speaker 5: a 53-yard return. and then get tackled just in time
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  Speaker 5: to have one second left. Jacksonville was trying to act
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  Speaker 5: like that was a plan, but this guy wasn't even trying.
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  Speaker 3: To get down. No, he was trying to go all
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  Speaker 3: the way.
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  Speaker 2: No, like he, like I did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The kick return was like, Oh yeah, I was, I
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  Speaker 2: was watching the class counting in my head. I think
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  Speaker 2: is what he said, right? I'm counting in my head. No,
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  Speaker 2: you're not. While you're returning a kick, stop it. Like
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  Speaker 2: maybe you saw the clock.
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  Speaker 3: You think you're practicing that? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You think you're practicing that at full speed and getting
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  Speaker 5: tackled at the right time? I mean, he didn't even
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  Speaker 5: try to go down. So, It ended up being pretty lucky,
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  Speaker 5: I think, that Jacksonville won. Worst case scenario for Philly.
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  Speaker 5: And I think in this case, Nick Sirianni steps up
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  Speaker 5: and really takes the blame to maybe help his team
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  Speaker 5: psychologically after a tough loss and just take the pressure
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  Speaker 5: off of them a little bit. I don't think that
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  Speaker 5: his management late in the game was nearly as bad
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  Speaker 5: as Washington at all. I think it was much more debatable.
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  Speaker 2: Someone's got to win the NFC East, don't they? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants are 3-1-1, but everyone else is below. 500.
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  Speaker 2: Dallas is 2-3, and Philly's now 2-3. Washington 1-3-1. Yet
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  Speaker 2: the Giants, I don't know how sustainable their mark is
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  Speaker 2: with a backup quarterback with Jameis in there right now.
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  Speaker 2: But someone's got to win that division, right?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Philly still could.
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  Speaker 5: Philly still could. You would have thought it was a
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  Speaker 5: perfect year for Dallas, but they just haven't. really shown
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  Speaker 5: an ability defensively to get much better. And so they're,
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  Speaker 5: they're pretty hit and miss. I think the, I think
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  Speaker 5: the Eagles have some real limitations and some problems, but
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  Speaker 5: they shoot, they were up by 10 points on the Rams.
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  Speaker 5: They were controlling this game at least late in the
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  Speaker 5: game against Jacksonville. It looks like they're still playing hard.
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  Speaker 5: I assume they'll get Saquon Barkley back at some time.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just a matter of kind of holding on,
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  Speaker 5: you know, here in the meantime. And I think the
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  Speaker 5: fact that that division is still up for grads could
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  Speaker 5: deter them from, you know, possibly making some trades and, and,
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  Speaker 5: and doing some things that you might do if you
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  Speaker 5: didn't think you had a chance.
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  Speaker 2: Are you surprised that Marvin Harrison is getting traded?
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  Speaker 5: Uh, no, I'm not at all because his, uh, production
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  Speaker 5: has really fallen off. You know, I, I think Cardinals
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  Speaker 5: fans and people watching that team have been pretty down
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  Speaker 5: on him. Um, there's been a lot of clips, you know,
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  Speaker 5: going around of him, not given full effort or looking
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  Speaker 5: like he's fully engaged or really able to separate from anybody. So,
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  Speaker 5: see if a change of scenery helps him. Uh, sometimes
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  Speaker 5: it can, you know, and I think he's getting with
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  Speaker 5: CJ Stroud and Houston.
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  Speaker 3: They were teammates. Um, it's possible that helps them.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we'll have to see, but his production's just
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  Speaker 5: been okay and not nothing really too flashy.
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  Speaker 3: So it's probably makes sense for both teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. Mike Santa with us for a
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  Speaker 2: couple more moments. I loved your last line. Uh, how
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  Speaker 2: about those Falcons? they gave us another entertaining game. I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of people are like, why are the
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  Speaker 2: Falcons on prime time all these times? And then yet,
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  Speaker 2: the game itself is hell of entertaining. They didn't come
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  Speaker 2: out on top, but entertaining game though, right? At least
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  Speaker 2: the Falcons are giving us that.
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  Speaker 8: It really was.
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  Speaker 5: I think Michael Penix has come back and given them
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  Speaker 5: more of a boost than I thought he would. He's
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  Speaker 5: somebody who is willing to throw it in there, at
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  Speaker 5: least give them a chance. I think that can get
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  Speaker 5: a team going. Their offensive lines come together a little
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  Speaker 5: bit too, so A tough loss for them against the
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  Speaker 5: Ravens without Lamar Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: I think if they'd won that one, man, they'd be rolling.
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  Speaker 3: But I think they're.
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  Speaker 5: Still going to be better than we thought as long
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  Speaker 5: as Penix is in there. We saw last night he
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  Speaker 5: got banged around, and I think it's unlikely he plays
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  Speaker 5: every game the rest of the way, too.
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  Speaker 2: Quick thought from Mike before I let you go. Fun
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  Speaker 2: Monday night game tonight. You've got the Buffalo Bills, and
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  Speaker 2: you've got the L.A. Rams on Monday night football. You
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  Speaker 2: want a heavyweight tilt on Monday? Mike, that's a heavyweight
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  Speaker 2: battle right there.
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  Speaker 7: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see, you know, to the bills
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  Speaker 3: fans are going to travel.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of bills fans there for that game. And
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  Speaker 5: I think Josh Allen's the one thing that I think
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  Speaker 5: is going to have a big game. You know, the
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  Speaker 5: one thing I trust the most, uh, right now. So
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  Speaker 5: I might favor the bills, uh, at this point, Rams
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  Speaker 5: haven't really put it all together. Um, but they're capable too.
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  Speaker 5: So maybe there'll be some points put on the board.
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  Speaker 2: And all of us out here in the NFC Westland,
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  Speaker 2: including our friends at San Francisco 49ers, big Bills fans
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  Speaker 2: tonight out here, Mike. Big Bills fans tonight as they
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  Speaker 2: take on the Rams. Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 5: You've got to get one back after the Eagles let
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  Speaker 5: them off the hook. I think if you're looking for
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: the Rams to lose, that was a tough one. That
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: was a tough one, but we'll see tonight. Another tough
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: game for the Rams.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Indeed.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, as always. I know you're on with the
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: morning show later this week. We'll look forward to that.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you next Monday.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: That's Mike Sando from The Athletic joining us here on
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. We've got texts. We probably have
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: some talkbacks as well, Ashley, right?
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Red microphone. Go ahead, speak into it. We'll get to
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: your reaction from the Seahawks' loss this weekend, the other
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: losses by every college football team imaginable. Your thoughts or
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: just your vents coming up next.
• 15:52
  Speaker 9: Okay, I had two problems with Mike McDonald in that game.
• 15:54
  Speaker 9: The first problem was right before the half, calling the timeouts,
• 15:57
  Speaker 9: trying to get the ball back. I can understand if
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: the 49ers are on their own 20, but they were
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: on the 50. We were going to be pinned deep
• 16:04
  Speaker 9: and have no chance to score. It's a turnover waiting
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: to happen. The second problem I had was not giving
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: Job any help against Mike Evans. I mean, it was
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: obvious the 49ers were going to go to Evans against Job.
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: They found something there, and he does nothing to adjust.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: If you listened earlier, we addressed that with Hugh during
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Hardcore Football. Mike McDonald actually addressed it today, too. He goes, yeah,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I kind of get it. I kind of get it. But, yeah,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, you got– they used timeouts.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I think what Hugh said, just the play call was egregious,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: and plus you got to hold on the ball. Simple
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: as that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Next.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: Play should have never– We have a Brian Fleury problem. Yes,
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: George Helani fumbled that ball, but it was Fleury who
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: fumbled the call. That play should have never happened. You
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: take one step, drop to a knee, and go to
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: the locker room.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Seattle sports fans right now.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Well, at least we have nothing.
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: We've got the Kraken.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Kraken are 2-0 on their five-game road trip. Sounders. Sounders
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: had a win this weekend. Kraken, unfortunately for them, when
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: they're winning games, are playing head-to-head against Friday, UW and Iowa.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: And yesterday, literally exact same time as the Seahawks and
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the 49ers are playing. Two of their best games in
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: a while and going head-to-head with football. We've got a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: couple more. Niners.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: I don't feel like this is actually a big deal
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: at all. If you remember last year, we lost four
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: out of five at the beginning of the season. It
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: really only matters how you finish. If we can win
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: three or four games in a row at the end
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: of the year, including both Rams games, then this loss
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: won't mean anything.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I brought this up earlier. Now, these are just the
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: basic numbers, like basic numbers. But they're rushing the ball,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: and Hugh did a good job explaining kind of how
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: they're rushing it and how they're running it, but At
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: this point, through five games, they've rushed the ball for
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: 530 yards, 565 last year. So the difference in terms
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: of rushing yards per game is seven per game.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Compared to last year.
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: But we didn't lose four out of five last year,
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: did we?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: They were three and two at the same time last year. Yeah, so, okay,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that's right. Exact same record.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: But he said we lost four out of five.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what? I don't remember being that bad.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: The difference is Darnold, probably. I mean, just... Last year,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: through five games, when he played all five, he threw
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: nine touchdowns and had three interceptions. This year, through five games,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: he's only played really three.
• 18:44
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: And he's only played the three, and those three, he's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: thrown seven touchdowns and five interceptions. So he's got two
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: more interceptions and two fewer games.
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: That's not ideal.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Fumbles are almost identical. The difference in the fumbles is,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and Mike McDonald brought up the fumbles. That's the reason
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up. Mike McDonald brought up the fumbles yesterday,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: or today. In his news conference, we carried that live
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: at 1230. So, you know, roughly the same. They are.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: They were eight last year at this point through five games,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: or in terms of turnovers, eight. This year it's nine
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: through five games. The fumbles are a little bit different
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: because this year it's all running backs. Price two, Helani one,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and Wilson one. Last year, it was Darnold had one,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: JSN had one, Milrow had one.
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: Oh, that's right.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: The defense had one. After they got an interception, they
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: turned it over.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And then Helani had one. So those are different. The
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: biggest difference in terms of production, just raw number, basic number,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: outside of I know the running backs are different. depleted,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: but the numbers per game are similar. Walker was having
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: a good year. Charbonnet did not have a good first
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: five games. He had three touchdowns, but he was averaging
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: well under, not well under, but he was averaging under
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: three yards per attempt. Cooper Cup last year at this
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: time had 24 catches as your number two receiver.
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: He has how many now?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: 11.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: 11.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Just a non-factor. And nobody else in the passing game
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: besides JSN is a factor. JSN's numbers are pretty similar.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: He's at 37 catches right now. He had 34 last year. So,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, through five games. Yeah. The turnovers and how they...
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, too, is how do the turnovers happen?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: When do they happen? Where do they happen?
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Helani.
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: They were just so bad yesterday.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And the thing with Helani is he also... He could
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: have had a second one. He just dropped the ball.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Like in open field. And then at least he was able.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: To get it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Barely, right?
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: I was like, I yelled bad, bad words when that happened.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: I was like, get the effing ball.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: All right, we got one more talk back?
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: We got a couple more, but we'll play one more.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: All right, fire one more.
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: Ian, my frustration comes from this team not learning from
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: their mistakes. Sam Darnold threw a pick this weekend that
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: looked exactly identical to a pick he threw last weekend.
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: The fumble issues from George Hawney are not getting fixed.
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: The fumble issues from Emmanuel Wilson, not getting fixed. All
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: after we'll watch Jadarian Price have fumble issues. Every running
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: back we have has a fumble issue. And they're just
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: relying way too heavily on the defense. The offense needs
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: to get going.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to defend Wilson too much, but he's
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: only got the one fumble this year.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just the one.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't call it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah. One more.
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: Hey, guys, I just want to say, yep, really salty
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: about yesterday's game, like an Auntie Anne's pretzel. But we've
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: got to stop talking about Ken Walker like he's He's
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: moved on. We're the bitter ex right now, and we
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: need to get over that. We'll get some reinforcements, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: maybe we try something a little bit different this week,
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: and hopefully we can take care of business on a
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: short week against Denver. By the way, Bo Nix doesn't
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: scare me at all, so let's go.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Ian, Ashley, I need you.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: To answer a question for me, and this is not new.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Why is it when the Seahawks lose, And it seems
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: like this happens every single time they lose. They play
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: like garbage, but it's just enough. If they had lost
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: by 21 yesterday, I'd be angry, but I'd be like, okay, well,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: they played like crap.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: They lost by 21.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: They lost by three, and they had a ball, had
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the ball at the end with a chance to win.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Yes, everyone.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: 435.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I love how these Seahawks fans are in shock. We'll
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: send Bernal this year. He led the NFL in turnovers
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: LOL.
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not just a darn, it's just he led
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: the league in turnovers, but he looked different.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: He did. I think if you, I think Softy's going
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: to do something. If you were listening to Mike Sandel
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a minute ago, Sandel brought up the possibility of a
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: quarterback change. That's not a fan bringing it up. That's
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: a guy that is probably is dialed in with NFL executives.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Not like, hey, give me the news of the day.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Who's signing where? No, like guys that are like looking
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: at X's and O's is anyone.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting thing he just threw out there at us.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: We didn't get too deep into it, but it was interesting.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Any chance the new ownership put Josh Jobe
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: on Mike Evans? Ha ha. A lot of people. Enough
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: of George Helani. A lot of people. Time to get
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: rid of Helani. How does he still have a job today?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: This is a 4-2-5.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. The Helani stuff is... People
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: were pissed. People were mad.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I did feel that way, but not sure now. Leaving
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Joe up on Evans seems like a pure ego, which
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: is a recipe for disaster. McDonald kind of wore it today,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: but you know. Donald is 1-2 as a starter. Both
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: losses could be on him. First pass and back-to-back games intercepted.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Donald thing is becoming... I think the Donald thing is
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: going to become more... Unless he gets it going.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: Well, he's got a couple days to figure it out.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: We could have a Like, if he goes in and
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: throws a couple more picks and they lose to Denver
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: on Thursday, we're going to have an interesting conversation Friday.
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: The bigger thing is what you do in the future
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: with him. When you've got the other guys sitting there
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that look pretty damn good this year.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Now, he played against Arizona.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But he did play against a Patriots team that is
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: okay yesterday.
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Well, they did yesterday, right? So now it helped that
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the defense forced Drake May to a bunch of turnovers,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: but you get the point. All right, let's do a
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: little Fact or Fiction, shall we? We're set to go.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Glad you're with us. It's your shot at our weekly $ 1, 000.
• 24:25
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• 24:30
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• 24:32
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• 24:35
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• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Well, just a quick recap for you before we get
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to our pick.
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: Do we have to?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: We're going to.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: The big winners last week were the Greg Bell, Jessamyn
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: McIntyre show. They went 3-2. That's the big winners.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: That's good for them.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Number two on the list, the Chuck Powell extravaganza. They
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: were 1-4. Chuck got the Monday night game right, and
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: every other game was wrong, wrong, wrongsville. We were 0-4.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: We only had four picks last week because the Friday
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: shows were short because of the Kraken. Oh, no, the Huskies.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the Husky pregame. So we only had four picks,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: which is a good thing because we went 0-4. Yeah, no,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we didn't.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: We shouldn't have been allowed near any picks.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Softie and Fane also were 0-4, including a pick in
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: honor of Jackson. The over-under, they took the under. I
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: was thinking about this one on Friday. They took the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: under at 41.5. That was done by halftime. Literally done
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: by halftime. No, wait, it was a 27 to.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: 27-6, right, at halftime? So not quite done, but damn close.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: It was close.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Damn close. So it's time to do what we do
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: when we have a tough week. And I can't believe
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: they left this one on the board. We're chasing. We
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: are chasing. You're going to text FACT to 49451 if
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you agree with me. You'll text FICTION to 49451 if
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you disagree with me. Don't worry about what we did
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: last week or didn't do last week. It's a new week.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: It's a new week and it's a new pick. Every
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: pick is new. Every pick is different. You're trying to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: win a $ 1, 000 weekly prize, $ 10, 000 grand prize. Now, in fairness,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: picking against us would probably give you a better chance
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to win a $ 1, 000 weekly prize. I'll give you that. Yes.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: But I'm going down an interesting road here. Ashley, did
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you know when an East Coast team travels to play
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: West Coast teams in prime time, the West Coast team
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: is 11-0 straight up?
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Whoa.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: 10-0 and 1 against the spread in the last 11 games.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: I did not know that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Keep that in the back pocket for a second. Let
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: me tell you this. Tonight, the Rams are favored by
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: three and a half. I feel dirty doing it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: I thought you were going the other way.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I feel dirty doing it. I didn't approve of this.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I feel dirty doing this, but I've got to do
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: it because we want to get a fact in there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And we're chasing. And, of course, it's a little bit
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: of a hedge because if I don't get it right,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: then what the hell? That's a good thing, right?
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: But.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: That's true. Rams minus 3.5, fact, 4-9-4-5-1 tonight on Monday
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Night Football against the Bills. Rams minus 3.5, fact, 4-9-4-5-1.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Let me reiterate one more time. East Coast team travels
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to play West Coast teams in prime time. That is
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the case tonight. Buffalo to East Coast, Rams to West Coast.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: West Coast teams, 11-0 straight up, 10-0-1 against the spread
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: in the last 11 games. Get me? You get me?
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: You feel me?
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: I feel dirty. I think I need to take a shower.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It's so dirty. Feels so dirty. But those are the numbers.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I actually did something that I haven't done yet this year.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I need to change the policy. I actually did a
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: little research on this one. Because my first inclination when
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I saw that the morning show for the first time
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: didn't take the Monday night game.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you were probably shocked.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, cool, they didn't take it? Well, I'm
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: just going to take Buffalo and root hard for Buffalo.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I'm hedging and I'm chasing. All at one time on
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: this pick.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: I do feel very dirty about this.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Rams minus 3.5 against Buffalo. Fact, if you agree, 4-9-4-5-1.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: If you disagree, fiction to 4-9-4-5-1. It's that simple. It's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that easy. It really isn't hard. Again, this is what
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the numbers tell you. Last 11 games, West Coast, 11-0
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: straight up, 10-0-1 against the spread. 10-0-1 against the spread
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: is what you care about in the last 11 games.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford and the Rams, we hate them. By the way,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: great game tonight for fantasy implications, right? I mean, you've
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: got a zillion dudes in this game.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I got Josh Allen going.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, James Cook. You got Moore all on that side.
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's Moore's playing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't check yet. Name your tight end for both teams.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Kyron Williams, Matthew Stafford, Puka, Puka Nakua. Puka Nakua, the weirdo, freak, sicko,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: biting girls thing guy. Devontae Adams.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: He's still pretty good.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Man, there is a lot of fantasy tonight. There's a
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: lot of juice on this tonight. And you're saying, I'm
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: chasing $ 10, 000. I'm chasing a $ 1, 000 weekly prize. So what
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: do I do? I listen to what Ian said with
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: his massive amount of research that I did.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: It took me five minutes.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: But that massive amount of research. I'm known for my research.
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: That's what they say.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Known for the research. I'm taking again Rams minus three
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and a half against Buffalo. Fact 49451. The numbers tell
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you that's a winning pick based on the history of
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: what we're doing here. Text in again. 49451. Fact if
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: you agree.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: 49451.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Fiction if you disagree. Try to win $ 1, 000. We give
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: away $ 1, 000 every week. All it takes is one correct pick,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: either guessing fact or fiction, and you are dialed in.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Two correct picks, then you have a double the odds.
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: That's right.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Now this week I should point out we don't have
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: a show tomorrow.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: We have no pick tomorrow and no pick Thursday. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: I think Dick Fane is going to have to make
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: a pick.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And no pick Friday.
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: He's going to have to make your pick Friday.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: That's a pick for him. It's not going on our
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: record unless he wins.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: Unless I make the pick.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: We only have three picks this week. Today, Wednesday. Today, Wednesday.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: I'm not even here Friday, so I can't.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Make the pick. We don't have a pick on Thursday.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: No pick Tuesday or Thursday.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Or Friday. Friday we're off the air at 2.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Or actually, we're off there at one. So that's right.
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: Dick Fane has a pick on Thursday. No pick Friday.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: So there's fewer chances. There's fewer chances this week. So
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: you've got to get your picks in now and get
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: your fact or fiction in now, right now.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: 4-9-4-5-1.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One more time. Rams minus three and a half
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: against Buffalo. Fact, 4-9-4-5-1. Gives you a little rooting interest
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: for the nice game as well. Softie joins us next.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: All right, here he is, Dave Sotomayor. He is your
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: sideline reporter for Washington Football. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: heard you. I heard you today.
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: How about the fact that you and me are both
• 31:12
  Speaker 12: fans of teams that can't run the ball?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: And we're both fans of teams. Three teams that can't
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: run the ball. Hang on a second. Okay, yeah, that's true.
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: We're both fans of teams that can't run the ball,
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: and we are both fans of teams that will be
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: starting a new quarterback.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Is Elijah starting? Oh, yeah. Yeah, DeMond's got a rib injury,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: which is great timing for Jed.
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: I mean, he doesn't even need to address it until,
• 31:34
  Speaker 12: you know, DeMond Williams is healthy.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Perfect.
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: We actually asked him at the press conference today, you know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: are you at a point where you would consider making
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: a change even if DeMond's healthy?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And he basically said, you know.
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: Lucky for me, I'm not having to make that call
• 31:48
  Speaker 12: right now because he's hurt. So the timing could not
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: be better. Do you think he would have? I think
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: it's possible, yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, that was his 21st start on Friday.
• 31:59
  Speaker 12: The guy that ended the 2024 season with that performance
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: against Louisville in the Sun Bowl. I know a lot
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: of people have tried to minimize it, but that's fine.
• 32:08
  Speaker 12: I think there were some good vibes in that game.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: He looked good in that game.
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: The way he was putting the ball in great spots downfield.
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: He was making good decisions. He was accurate. He was
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: running like a madman. Here we are now, 21 starts later,
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: and it's completely gone in reverse. I absolutely think there's
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: reasons to start Elijah Brown no matter what. And I
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: don't know what Elijah Brown is going to be all about.
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: I mean, he looked good against an Iowa football team
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: that was up 24 points in the second half. I mean,
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: the game was over, right? You know, by their standards.
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: So we'll see what happens on Friday. By the way,
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: the most terrifying thing that I saw this weekend was
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: Purdue kicking the piss out of Minnesota.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Those guys ran for 300 yards
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: on Minnesota. Well, they got a legitimate coach finally. What
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: in the hell is going on, man? No, I know.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: That was supposed to be a cakewalk.
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: I feel like all these games that were supposed to
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: be cakewalks have happened.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. That's been a team that's been the absolute doormat
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: along with Rutgers forever. They are the Vanderbilt of the
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Big Ten. No doubt. They're about basketball. They don't care
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: about football there. Apparently now they do. Just in time
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: for you guys to come to town. Well, we're going
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: out there Friday. I've never been to West Lafayette. I've
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: been to Indiana many times, but never to West Lafayette.
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: And it's funny because I was talking to one of
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: the PR guys that works out there about our credentials, whatever.
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: We had a snafu. He's like, you know what? This
• 33:26
  Speaker 12: is West Lafayette. You just call me when you get
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: here and we'll take care of it. How nice is that?
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: Holy cow.
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: Versus other people like, nope, sorry, can't come in.
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: This ain't Columbus, Ohio or Tuscaloosa. By the way, speaking
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: of Tuscaloosa, you see our guy Kalen go nuts on the.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Sideline on Saturday? Rightfully so. I totally agree. Rightfully so. Double.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: First of all, the P.I. call was horse crap. Absolute
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: horse crap. Unbelievable.
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: Can you imagine if this was like back in the
• 33:53
  Speaker 12: day before the playoff and one loss, you're screwed?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: How big that would have been in Alabama.
• 33:59
  Speaker 12: But what I thought was funny is all the knuckleheads
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: on Twitter and social media.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine Saban doing that?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: He did that constantly.
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: Always.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: They think he was a saint or something. It's like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Nick would have never done that. Yeah, he would have.
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: He had every right to be that angry.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: That was... like there's some interesting calls this week at
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: all around football.
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: I'll tell you what, I'm sitting there watching that game
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: with Jean on Saturday night. And I looked at her
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: when Kalen got in that guy's face. And I, I
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: swear to God, I said this to Gina. I said,
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: is he going to.
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: Suck that guy?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Like he was pissed. I've never seen him that mad.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have a coach do that. Our coach on
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a play that was a, I still can't believe losing
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to Utah State. Anyway, a touchdown. The guy's juggling the
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: ball as he puts his foot down. I mean, it's 100%
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: not a catch. Everyone, like two guys on TV, that's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: not a catch. They'll review it. And they're like, the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: PAT unit comes out there. And I'm like, what are
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: we doing? Are we going to review it? And they go, well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: we're not reviewing. And then Kirby says, well, they told
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: me it was a good catch. I go, call a timeout.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Let them think about it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: Here's what I'll do. On Kirby's Thursday press availability, No,
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: that's not going to happen. Well, here's the thing.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: Sorry.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: He still has more press availability. He has more press
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: availabilities for the three guys that cover it than Mike
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: McDonald does during a given week.
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: He's got three of them. So Mike does three hits
• 35:23
  Speaker 12: with the media?
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so it's the same. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday normally.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: And that's what Kirby does.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: Our guy does a Zoom call on Thursday, which I
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: think Kirby should do the same thing.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Kirby's got bigger issues right now than talking to Jamie
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Vinnick one more time. You don't think Jed does? Holy moly, man.
• 35:42
  Speaker 12: Jed's got massive problems. The only difference for Kirby Moore
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: is he's lucky to be in year one. That's the difference.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: He finally had the stones to bench his little dwarf quarterback,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: thank God. That guy. I told you, man. I thought
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I told you. So did Cam. You and Cam both
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: told me. Some play UC Davis and he was not good.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: You'll find this hard to believe. I didn't have any say.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: This is how much they thought of Caden Pinnock. They
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: actually replaced Caden Pinnock with Cam's son. You go over there. Cam,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: get your boy. Bring him in. And he's kicking ass
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: down there. I know he is. Have you seen his numbers,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: by the way? I watched him kick the lot out
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: of Portland State on a game. And we got through
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the whole segment without talking about Sam Donald towing the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: ball over. We never did talk about that. Or George Helani.
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, one of those guys probably should be cut.
• 36:30
  Speaker 12: And it's not number 14, by the way. No.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I want a sacrificial lamb. I want blood. Why was
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the guy you just signed... who is supposed to be
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a guy that can run that offense and understands enough
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: of the offense. Why was he inactive? Because they just
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: signed him. That's it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: And there may have been a reason, part of the
• 36:50
  Speaker 12: reason why, maybe to get Alani off his ass.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: That didn't work.
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: I mean, how shocked would you be? I mean, this
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: week probably not going to happen because it's a short week, right?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Very short week. Like, they play in three days.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's insane.
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: You can't do anything this week. But if there was
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: a bye or a normal week or they played on
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: Monday night, can you imagine?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: They have a long week, right? Thursday and then Monday.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Somebody's getting fired Friday. Is it Monday? Is it Monday
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: or Sunday night? Sunday night. Sunday night. Sunday night football.