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Juventus-Milan Honest Reaction from Fans - Ep. 281 · The Calcio Guys

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Speaker 1: Usually when a movie ends the same way it starts,
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Speaker 1: it's a pretty boring movie. That's what happened in Italy.
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Speaker 1: But when it happened, when it happens in Italy, it's
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Speaker 1: called Caulcho. You've a meal and here on the couch, guys,
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Speaker 1: uh with you've a fan of Meal and fan Adriano
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Speaker 1: on Nicholas. You can follow us on all your favorite
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Speaker 1: podcasting platforms. Adrian, how's going.
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Speaker 2: It's going, good man, the action packed night tonight Monday
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Speaker 2: night here at the Culture, guys, so stay tuned for
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Speaker 2: we have what we have coming. And uh yeah, I'm
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Speaker 2: happy to always happy to talking older Johnny. Where saw
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Speaker 2: Johnny today? But uh well, we'll have to make do.
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Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. Well he's busy in Anaheim enjoying
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Speaker 1: the weather. So you know what, we're fair. We had
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Speaker 1: a good weather, nice in twenty seven degrees in uh whatever.
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Speaker 1: We October sixth recording. So this is gonna be a
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Speaker 1: short episode. Whoever's listening. We are gonna have rock go
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Speaker 1: from FC super as Ukibek on Leader in about twenty
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Speaker 1: something minutes. And uh so we'll talk at Italian Koucho
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Speaker 1: now and we'll talk Canadian koucho after. But yeah, Adri,
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Speaker 1: it's funny. Look, I've known you twenty five years now.
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Speaker 1: We met in September two thousand and somehow all of
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Speaker 1: our friendships led to this moment of watching You've a
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Speaker 1: Milan zero zero one of the more boring derbies. I
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Speaker 1: have to look, I have to look. I don't know
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Speaker 1: when was the last time a uve A Melan game
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Speaker 1: finished zero zero? A couple of years ago, maybe there
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Speaker 1: maybe was one. Yeah, I can't say it was uneventful
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Speaker 1: because there's all the story lines going in and this
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Speaker 1: is that now in even the miss Pelly miss chances
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Speaker 1: from David so miss Pellnty from boulsic to the American
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Speaker 1: miss chances from David the Canadian. But honestly, watching it, like,
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Speaker 1: I can't say it was a bad game. You could
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Speaker 1: tell it was a well coached game between between a
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Speaker 1: Legery and Tudor. You could tell those two coaches that
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Speaker 1: prepared the teams well. But then it led to a
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Speaker 1: defensive masterclass, which some people will say is boring. I look,
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Speaker 1: I do think it was boring in a way because
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Speaker 1: it's not like there was a lot of chances, right
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Speaker 1: besides a couple of mischances, like I said from David,
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Speaker 1: the miss penalty from Pulasic, It's not like it was
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Speaker 1: a back and forth crazy game. It's almost as if
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Speaker 1: both teams were afraid to lose. I think that's the
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Speaker 1: way it was. They were afraid to lose, afraid to
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Speaker 1: give up the ball. So that kind of led to
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Speaker 1: it for you. And now it's what five straight games
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Speaker 1: with a draw. Like man, if I wanted to watch draws,
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Speaker 1: I go to like a painting competition or something. It's
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Speaker 1: it's it's pretty it's pretty crazy, you know, Like I
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Speaker 1: think it was last week I said, three draws is
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Speaker 1: the same as one win and two losses. At this point,
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Speaker 1: it's five draws the same as what it's almost the
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Speaker 1: same as two wins. And if they draw next game,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same as two wins and four losses.
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Speaker 1: Right yeah, so whatever, Yeah. I I think whenever you
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Speaker 1: drop points at homes it's frustrating. But I think also
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Speaker 1: for Milion has to be it has to feel like
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Speaker 1: drop points as well.
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Speaker 2: Big time man. And honestly, I know, I know we
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Speaker 2: like to joke back and forth and whatever. We were
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Speaker 2: kind of cordial after the match, right, you know, there
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Speaker 2: was not really much much banter to say, like you
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Speaker 2: like back and forth, So like like you mentioned, you know,
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Speaker 2: we didn't do much. You guys didn't do much and
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Speaker 2: at the end, you know, we kind of just shake
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Speaker 2: hands and go home. But uh missed opportunity for sure.
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Speaker 2: I would say, not forget obviously all the opportunities in
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Speaker 2: the match, but just as a whole. You know, a
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Speaker 2: lot of Melon fans were saying and look and kind
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Speaker 2: of breaking it down. You know, the two biggest tests,
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Speaker 2: and I had said it a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 2: you know, the two big tests that are coming up
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Speaker 2: from me on were obviously last week's match against Napu
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Speaker 2: and and this week's game against Juventus. So you know,
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Speaker 2: I guess if you would ask me and fans going
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Speaker 2: into that, you know, would you take would you take
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Speaker 2: four points out of a possible six, they would probably
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Speaker 2: say yeah, yes, without kind of seeing what like what
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Speaker 2: transpired in the matches, But after after witnessing what we
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Speaker 2: witnessed yesterday, it's a bit of a it's it's a
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Speaker 2: bit of a digger because I think six from six
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Speaker 2: after watching what we saw was should have been the
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Speaker 2: result for me on I think ultimately, I know it
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Speaker 2: wasn't like you said, the typical back and forth and
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Speaker 2: crazy chances and this and that, But there were there
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Speaker 2: were chances to be had, especially for me one. And
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Speaker 2: if I were to say, I know the stats were
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Speaker 2: pretty even, but the quality chances, I think, uh, me
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Speaker 2: one's where I think ultimately they I think they could
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Speaker 2: have came out there with the win. You know, the
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Speaker 2: biggest I think the biggest chance for Juve besides you know,
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Speaker 2: uh twinkle Tows the Jonathan David slipping on a god
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Speaker 2: knows what on the on the pitch there at Alien Stadium.
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Speaker 2: If it wasn't for that, then the biggest chance for you,
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Speaker 2: I think was the Gatti. The Gatti right in front
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Speaker 2: of the net and Manual makes again one of his
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Speaker 2: timely time we saved and a huge save that honestly
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Speaker 2: probably saved that point, if if anything so on me
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Speaker 2: one side, I think there was a bit more. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: the penalty miss was was obviously the big focal point.
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Speaker 2: Uh Poch I would say nine times out of ten
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Speaker 2: he makes those, you know, so you know you have
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Speaker 2: to uh, you can't get too hard on him. I
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Speaker 2: don't think, you know, obviously in the moment you're pissed
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Speaker 2: and you're mad. But the best of them, miss right,
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Speaker 2: I know. I think it was Patrick Kendrick on the call,
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Speaker 2: had to had to bring up Oberto Badio ninety four, right,
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Speaker 2: So even the best ones and the goats of the sport,
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Speaker 2: miss so, uh, you know, I'm it's a it's unfortunate.
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna knock Poos it all too all too much,
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Speaker 2: just because he's been one of, if or not if
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Speaker 2: not our best player to start off the season. So
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Speaker 2: but besides that, you know, obviously the for me, the
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Speaker 2: two I would say two queer cut chances for fl
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Speaker 2: after coming on, I think we're we're ones that and
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Speaker 2: even like you said it, you know post match in
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Speaker 2: the in the presser, Uh, you know, a player of
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Speaker 2: his quality in a position like that in inside the area, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, basically one on one with the keeper if
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Speaker 2: you will, you have to you have to score at
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Speaker 2: least one of those, and he scored none. So the
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Speaker 2: you know, the at the back post, you know, after that,
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Speaker 2: I forget who the cross was by. It might have
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Speaker 2: been by Pusic with the left foot. He kind of
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Speaker 2: drags it wide, and you know, a real striker if
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Speaker 2: I will you know, the the bump, the the pro
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Speaker 2: typical number nines will finish, those will finish those chances
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Speaker 2: that it wasn't to be for him. It's unfortunate, and
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Speaker 2: he had a chance to win the game at the end, right,
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Speaker 2: a beautiful pass by by Luka Modric which we haven't
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Speaker 2: seen that pass in a in a Milan shirt in
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Speaker 2: quite some time. Right, that the really devastating pass inside
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Speaker 2: the box. Uh, and again he fuffs his shot and
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Speaker 2: it's kind of just one of these missed opportunities again.
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Speaker 2: So I think ultimately forget the thing of you know,
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Speaker 2: the storyline of you know, both teams not wanting to lose.
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Speaker 2: Are I think also it just you know, just overall
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Speaker 2: missed opportunity on both ends, because at the end of it, Nick,
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Speaker 2: we go, we come into this weekend expecting a lot,
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Speaker 2: and we come out just the exact same, and it
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Speaker 2: does it does no good for us both our teams.
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Speaker 2: This result the one point. Okay, yeah, you'll take the
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Speaker 2: point just because you rather one rather than zero, but
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Speaker 2: you know, in terms of the standings, it really doesn't
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Speaker 2: do much in our favor, especially what happened in the
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Speaker 2: other matches across Serria. So overall, I think missed opportunity. Uh,
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Speaker 2: it's it hurts we go into the international break having
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Speaker 2: to having to constantly true at this at this result
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Speaker 2: and hopefully not no swallow on it. Right, But you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm just hoping hopefully, you know, after the international break,
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Speaker 2: I could speak for me and I know you probably
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Speaker 2: think the same for you of it, and you'll kind
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Speaker 2: of get back on track and and kind of put
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Speaker 2: this this match behind us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does suck. We have to wait on it
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Speaker 1: two weeks. Meanwhile, we got Italy qualifiers coming up that
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Speaker 1: we're all gonna be super nervous about. Right exactly, But
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Speaker 1: like Jonathan David, one thing, I'll say, look.
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Speaker 2: What he looked awful.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, this is not the Jonathan David we know.
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Speaker 1: But I said this before the season. I'm gonna defend
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Speaker 1: him no matter what. Right. But also, he's a finisher.
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Speaker 1: He's not the type of striker that he's gonna do
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Speaker 1: everything on his own. You doesn't have that type of striker,
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Speaker 1: even Valvic Openda definitely not one thing I'll say, all
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Speaker 1: three of you strikers right now aren't scoring goals. They
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Speaker 1: have nine goals on the season in six games, and
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Speaker 1: four of those came against Enter, so in five other
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Speaker 1: games have five goals.
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Speaker 2: Ah.
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Speaker 1: So yes, you could criticize, you could criticize David that
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Speaker 1: slip was embarrassing, this and that, But right now it's
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Speaker 1: a whole attack that's very questionable. I do like the defense.
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Speaker 1: I do like that we got a clean sheet because
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Speaker 1: it was a bit more questionable, especially heading into the
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Speaker 1: game right without Brammer. Ghatty man he's soft, He's I
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Speaker 1: don't like Gatty anymore. You know, we saw this even
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Speaker 1: in the Champions League game. He just lets his man
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Speaker 1: go too easily. He likes watching the ball like like,
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Speaker 1: I get it. He's a fan, he's a fan of
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Speaker 1: the game. He's like atre imagine if we had a
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Speaker 1: front row seat to the these beautiful goals. I love
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Speaker 1: to watch too. But he's getting paid to make stops,
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Speaker 1: right Yeah, so he's it's best frustrating to watch Gatty
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Speaker 1: these days. I think right now you veased defense. The
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Speaker 1: depth is kind of in question, especially starting Ganny and
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Speaker 1: then the fact that he had to be subbed off later.
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Speaker 1: It's in question. So the break couldn't have come at
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Speaker 1: a better time, right, So it'll be interesting to see
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Speaker 1: what happens after. But yeah, I would just like to
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Speaker 1: see a lot more attack. Look, it went well, you know,
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Speaker 1: even in the Champions League. They got crazy overhead kicked
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Speaker 1: right from from Gatti, who's right now looks better as
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Speaker 1: a striker that and then a defender. But yeah, well
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Speaker 1: we'll see what comes after the break.
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Speaker 2: I just think also like it was I don't know
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Speaker 2: if it was you know, the the Allegriy reunion, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, first time back at Ali and stadium since
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Speaker 2: since being their coach and all. But I don't know,
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Speaker 2: like the it just something wasn't clicking in the final
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Speaker 2: third and there were, like I like we mentioned there
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Speaker 2: were chances, guys, Like, it's not like there wasn't any chances.
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Speaker 2: I know it finished nil nil, but you know, uh,
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Speaker 2: that penalty goes in Gatti maybe scores that man is
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Speaker 2: not there to make that time we save. It's a
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Speaker 2: one to one ball game, and you know there's there's
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Speaker 2: all to play for, right, so you know, I think
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Speaker 2: we could have seen some goals. You know, I liked uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, I think maybe I used the last season.
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Speaker 2: I think me one would have found the way to
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Speaker 2: lose this game. I think that the presidence of allegrity, Uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, Solvi Slic, like I mentioned in previous episodes,
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Speaker 2: has really uh he's put his imprint on on on
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Speaker 2: this team and you know they're really showing up that
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Speaker 2: defense uh for me on. So it's a queen street
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Speaker 2: from me one as well, but one where you kind
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Speaker 2: of you would rather have a goal rather than rather
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Speaker 2: than none on on your end. But a warm welcome
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Speaker 2: for Allegrity I think was was merited, and I think
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Speaker 2: it was a bit of a bit of a different
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Speaker 2: story in terms of Rabio. But again, overall, I think
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Speaker 2: these are these are matches where you know, because I
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Speaker 2: think the top four race, Nick, you know, we kind
11:36
Speaker 2: of previewed it obviously at the beginning of the of
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Speaker 2: the year, and over you know, these last couple of weeks,
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Speaker 2: you know, we've kind of seen some changes and it's
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Speaker 2: gonna be another fight to the finish man. We we've
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Speaker 2: seen this, you know, in quite a few of these
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Speaker 2: last few seasons, and if not all of them, there's
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Speaker 2: been what four or five different champions over over the
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Speaker 2: last handful of years, so you know it's really anybody's
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Speaker 2: for the taking, and think the big dogs are going
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Speaker 2: to be there at the end. And you know these
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Speaker 2: are points where again, like I said, it's okay, you
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Speaker 2: know you will take the point, uh and goal, but
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Speaker 2: you know these might be results where you look back
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Speaker 2: on and say, man, it really have missed opportunity and
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Speaker 2: and and and something that you're kind of you're you're
12:16
Speaker 2: you know, you're kicking the curve for and and and whatnot.
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Speaker 2: But uh, like I said, overall, I think you know,
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Speaker 2: there were players that you know, for me and always
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Speaker 2: that I liked. You know, Bretai had to have to
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Speaker 2: step in the nineteen year old left back. I think
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Speaker 2: he did pretty well. Uh for for his you know,
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Speaker 2: his his uh his start from for a minute one
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Speaker 2: Uh he woked, he woked, ready to go and uh
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Speaker 2: is it's encouraging another young Italian and in in the league.
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's nice to see them getting in
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Speaker 2: some minutes. Finally, I know it's because of suspension to
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Speaker 2: a Stupnian, but still he he stepped up when needed.
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Speaker 2: I think honestly, I think Leo, I know, is getting
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Speaker 2: all the all the all the flock and righty soap,
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Speaker 2: because again, you have to finish at least one of those,
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Speaker 2: at least one of those chances that you had if
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Speaker 2: you want to be you know, the guy from Elan
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Speaker 2: so But personally, I don't know if he's a hundred
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Speaker 2: percent fit. And it's not making excuse guys, but it
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Speaker 2: just it's I think it's the truth of him and
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Speaker 2: kum Ku. They didn't look they didn't look all there.
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Speaker 2: Maybe would have kept on Santi Manez for a bit longer,
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Speaker 2: but even him, like you said, with David, he's not
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Speaker 2: a guy who to create on his own. They need
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Speaker 2: that service. And I don't know, I know there's been
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Speaker 2: a lot of talk with you know, different reporters asking Allegri.
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Speaker 2: You know, is is the introduction of Leau and in
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Speaker 2: kun Ku and the forward players that you have this
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Speaker 2: three five two is are going to really mold into
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Speaker 2: working with these players that you have, And he seems
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Speaker 2: to think so, and hopefully it is to be going forward.
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Speaker 2: But I just feel like some of these attacking players
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Speaker 2: they look less dangerous when they're not in there in
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Speaker 2: their correct position. So again we have to wait the
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Speaker 2: next two weeks to to kind of sleep on on
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Speaker 2: this result. But uh, you know, it's it's not gonna
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Speaker 2: get any easier. And like I said earlier, the teams
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Speaker 2: around them, you know, the the Romans of the world,
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Speaker 2: the Nopolies of the world, the interns of the world
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Speaker 2: as well, right the nick they're they're they're getting the
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Speaker 2: results when when when we're not, So we have to
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Speaker 2: keep an eye.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna make. I know,
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Speaker 1: we got five minutes left to Adrie, but yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly the next point I was gonna say, you
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Speaker 1: look ahead, especially the top two right now Napoli roll.
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Speaker 1: My wish Janey was here to talk about it, because
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Speaker 1: these are two teams that came back this weekend and won.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's the type of I guess you could
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Speaker 1: say Greene Thee.
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Speaker 2: It's those ugly it's those ugly wins, right like when
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Speaker 2: you're not playing well and or you're down, and do
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Speaker 2: you find a way to get all three points and
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Speaker 2: and to go across the finish one with with with
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Speaker 2: the win. You know they did and unfortunately or or
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Speaker 2: or or Uventus didn't. So uh, you have to be
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Speaker 2: able to to do that. I thought with I got
14:53
Speaker 2: like a agree because he was made a career that
14:55
Speaker 2: when he was like you really going those getting those
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Speaker 2: those you know Porto Mooso, those ugly quote unquote wins.
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Speaker 2: You have to be able to find that extra year
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Speaker 2: when it matters, and they did.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, look not believe you know. It was
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Speaker 1: a thirty three minute goal against Genuine and then Angrisa
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Speaker 1: and Hoylan came back goals since second half. Roma was
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Speaker 1: fantastic start of this season. It was all in the
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Speaker 1: first half Keen and then followed up by Sule and Christante.
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Speaker 1: And so these are two teams that I guess you
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Speaker 1: could say the break is coming at a bad time
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Speaker 1: because they're hot. They don't want that break. So yeah.
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Speaker 1: But but for Rome, I think they actually play inter
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Speaker 1: u when they come back after the break. So that's
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Speaker 1: gonna be that's gonna be a spicy game. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a good game.
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Speaker 2: And even and even into right, like I know what
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Speaker 2: if guy, I want to watch for one right, Bonnie
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Speaker 2: was the Bonnie Show, right, but even them right like
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Speaker 2: start off the season the first few weeks and it
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Speaker 2: was it didn't look too good. You know, the lost
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Speaker 2: to these the drop points here players not pointing up
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Speaker 2: to up to scruff and you know, the crazy game
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Speaker 2: against you and the de w'd be right and so
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Speaker 2: sly they're they're marching their way up the table. So again,
16:07
Speaker 2: no lead is safe, like we like to say, right
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Speaker 2: especially in the sea. So that's why, man, you have
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Speaker 2: to you have to These teams at the top, they're
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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to really, you know, watch out. The
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Speaker 2: one benefit that I can say from you one is
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Speaker 2: obviously the one game a week. You know, these other teams,
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Speaker 2: the juva Is, you know, the you know, the Inters,
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Speaker 2: the Knopolis, the Romas. You know, they're playing multiple times
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Speaker 2: with the European competition. So I think it's gonna be
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Speaker 2: all for the taking. And like I said earlier, it's
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Speaker 2: gonna be a fight to the finish.
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Speaker 1: For sure, uh Adri. This has to be the shortest
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Speaker 1: episode in Couching Guys history. We're gonna cut it, but
16:43
Speaker 1: for those listening, we're gonna have another episode up. We
16:46
Speaker 1: haven't decided the order in which we're gonna release them.
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Speaker 1: So if you if you came to the end, you
16:50
Speaker 1: might see the other episode up. You might have to wait,
16:53
Speaker 1: but we're gonna switch it up. We're gonna talk some
16:55
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