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PROOF They’re Deliberately Destroying Our Food Supply — Dr. Andrew Huff Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. So if there's one thing that we've seen over the past couple of years on top of all the insanity of COVID and lockdowns and mandates, it's been all these strange occurrences where food processing plants and small farms and even large plants are blowing up, they're burning down, there's planes crashing into them and it seems like a series of just random accidents. But when you piece it all together, it looks like someone is literally trying to take out the food production in America, which would have dire consequences. And my guest today, Doctor.
• 0:45
  Andrew Huff, who you probably know because he was a guy that was the EcoHealth Alliance whistleblower and came out talking about the truth about the origins of COVID, etc. What's interesting though, is that about ten years ago, he was tasked with a complex research project of looking at all of the critical vulnerabilities in our food supply system in America. And he identified exactly which plants, etcetera, would be the most critical if an enemy combatant wanted to bring down and collapse our food supply. Fast forward a couple of years ago, that research was stolen. And then, well, I'll let the interview speak for the rest of it because this is some incredible information.
• 1:28
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• 1:46
  So if you like watching, you want to listen instead, just go to your favorite podcast app like Podbean or Spotify, search for Man in America and you'll find me on there. Alright, folks, let's jump into this interview with Doctor. Andrew Huff. Alright, Andrew, it's such a pleasure to have you back on the show so soon. Thank you for coming back on.
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a pleasure to be back.
• 2:08
  Seth Holehouse: You know, so when we were talking before our last interview, before recording, you know, you were talking to me about some information that you had obtained as it related to the food shortages and the government kind of, you know, involvement of food shortages. And that was really interesting for me because I've been talking about the food shortages since early, really early on in the Ukraine war when we first started seeing disruption to the fertilizers and natural gas and then seeing the ripple effects of that. But then also, you know, even your average person knows that there have been all of these strange coincidental fires or airplane crashes or just random things that destroy all of these food processing plants across the nation. And I just, I really want to hear your input on what could be behind all this.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a lot to take in. So first of all, the attacks have been going on for the past, I guess, going on two years. And I don't think that these attacks are a coincidence. And I'm calling them attacks because I've analyzed the data against a dataset that I started to curate when I was a PhD student at the University of Minnesota. I worked at a National Department of Homeland Security National Center Security Center of Excellence.
• 3:32
  That's a mouthful. It was called the National Center for Food Protection Defense, and this was my dissertation research. And a number of officials from the federal government had created a system to collect and analyze vital national security data related to food and agriculture systems. This was done as part of something called the National Infrastructure Protection Plan or in national security circles we've referred to as the NIP. If your audience goes and searches for NIP, DHS, and this thing called FastCat, f a s c a t, they'll pop up and it'll describe what it is in a little greater detail.
• 4:10
  The way that this the system actually worked from the Department of Homeland Security is that they'd send a subject matter expert out like Colonel John Hoffman, who's my mentor, and he actually helped develop the system to collect the threats of the vulnerabilities, the consequence data, the magnitude of attack data for every food system in The United States. And they use a software tool to collect the data and they did this in partnership with state governments and also the private sector. So most of these food systems are obviously, in our country at least, are owned by the private sector. So you have to work with them to collect this national security data. And the idea behind this was that they're going collect all this data and once it gets back in DHS's hands, then you have a rank order target list essentially of which facilities are the most critical to The United States in terms of economics, in terms of jobs, in terms of food production, because food security is national security.
• 5:04
  You fight a country you can't fight a war without having your own food production. You can't have domestic stability or an economy in this country without food. Food is our largest aspect of gross domestic product. So I did a ton of research on this these data, and you can go search for the FAST CAT in my name, Andrew Hoff, and it'll pop up on the Internet. There's peer reviewed publications.
• 5:30
  And part of this was the reason why I was asked to work on this dataset was due to my national security experience going into my PhD program. That's why I was selected for it. I had previously had a secret clearance. I had been doing big data quantitative analytical projects for the FBI in my master's degree or with FBI data. And so coming out of this, I actually had the unclassified version of what would become a top secret dataset.
• 6:01
  So in national security, there's different ways things that can become classified. One way is through classification via compilation. What that means is a person or a scientist or an individual, an analyst combines a bunch of information together. And through that combining information, it becomes something that could be used as a weapon against The United States. That's essentially what I had collected.
• 6:24
  Now, my next job after I graduated and completed my PhD program was at Sandia National Laboratories where I continued to expand my research on these data. So looking at the system to see how it how we could attack it and how we could simulate attacks, bioterror attacks or chemical attacks through the food system. So you're actually using the food system as a delivery vehicle for attacks. And I had walked away from that research, so then I went into work at EcoHealth Alliance, that's where my COVID story sort of takes place. But fast forward to twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, these data sets go missing from my house and they're stolen.
• 7:02
  I reported it to the department
• 7:03
  Seth Holehouse: So
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: the
• 7:05
  Seth Holehouse: sets about the research that you did on the basically the kind of pinpointing the security issues and the infrastructure of the food supply system and what would happen if it was attacked or all the vulnerabilities. So that information in 2019 or so just went missing from your house? Like was it just in like a filing cabinet somewhere or how what happened?
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: So the first one goes missing in I believe this is when it goes missing because I'm not watching this thing every day. I had two different hard drives that contain it. And I also had it backed up on my computers. So taking a step back, the reason why my version of the data was so critical is that I actually de identified the data for research purposes and I held the only key or in science or data science is known as the primary functional key. So I have the functional key to the data to relate the individual entities, the locations to the larger dataset.
• 8:05
  And we de identified that purpose so we could publish those research papers publicly because that's how you can sort of publish national security information, but you do it in a safe and secure way. And I was working on a contract for DHS, even though I wasn't a DHS employee as a student, my mentor, Colonel Hoffman, actually had helped stand up the Biologics and Food Defense Division of the Department of Homeland Security. And he had a copy of the data and also did Doctor. Amy Kircher and Professor Sean Kennedy. So these people were all experts in national security that I was working with.
• 8:41
  So their data could have been stolen. My data could have been stolen or hacked. I'm trying to think of other ways that this information could have gotten in other people's hands. The version of the data sitting at the Department of Homeland Security in Washington DC could have been hacked or stolen. But my physical devices did go missing during a move from California to Michigan.
• 9:01
  The first one did. The second one goes missing during a string of criminal activity, which I later defined later discovered was the Michigan State Police and the FBI breaking into my house to harass me. I related to my discussion and talking about the origin of COVID. So you can speculate a couple of different things here. It's a very strange sequence of events.
• 9:29
  I'm not likely to know what the truth is, but what's very strange is that my attorney, Tom Renz, myself, Colonel John Hoffman was cc'd on conversation. I reported this to the top level bureaucrats at the FDA, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, and the USDA. These are all the agencies responsible for protecting the food supply and and national security. And there's specific people at each agency that do that. No investigation ever took place.
• 9:59
  Crazy. And this is essentially the target list of how to attack the American food system. Now the story gets a little crazier. So when things started to settle down a little bit in my life in July or August of last year, I decided to analyze the FastCat data against the string of attacks, which have happened in North America and globally. There's two different ways to look at this.
• 10:25
  So first just focusing in on The United States and our food systems. It was very highly correlated, the attack list. So with the facilities that are hit versus the data that I had, it's almost a perfect match. So that suggests a couple of different things. So one, it's an insider to DHS or the US government.
• 10:50
  Two, it could be a state sponsored actor that stole the information. Or three, it would be a state sponsored actor or group of corporations or individuals that had the resources to hire people like me to figure out what the attack list would be. So it's a very small group of us that know how to analyze this properly. And I think the probability that they hired people to go analyze our food infrastructure and system to figure out where to attack it, I think that I classify that as low probability. Now, the likelihood that the information was stolen seems far more likely to me.
• 11:28
  And since I can prove that the Department of Defense had hacked my devices and gained access to them, which probably meant they could take anything off that they want to and that these devices went missing through break ins by the Michigan State Police and FBI into my home. And I have no clue who took the first one in the move between Michigan and California. At that time, I wasn't suspecting foul play, but I had probably been under surveillance since then due to what I knew about the origins of COVID. So this is all very strange, of course, And you can imagine what it feels like to be in my position, but I'm being just honest about what I know here and what I can prove. The fact of the matter is that since these attacks are so highly correlated with this dataset, and we know it's either an insider or a state sponsored actor, The FBI is telling all of the food industry that nothing weird is going on, but in fact, it matches the target list.
• 12:26
  The FBI is so incompetent that they have no clue what the FAST CAT data is. And the Department of Homeland Security is also so incompetent. They're actually in the process of rebuilding this dataset right now because they don't know that it exists. I'm not kidding, I received a phone call last week from people working with the Department of Homeland Security asking me if I wanted to be involved in a project where they're gonna go recreate this. And I laughed.
• 12:48
  I said, you guys already did this ten years ago and you paid me to do it. Now this kind of thing actually happens quite often in the government. It happens more often than you would expect because it's a huge beast. And, you know, it seems like the government only has the congressional funding cycle. Is there length of their memory, two years?
• 13:05
  So for better or worse, that's what's happened. Now, the people who I suspect are doing this, so the first thing you have do is eliminate people who or groups or organizations, which you can defamantly rule out. So this doesn't look like eco terrorism based on the types of facilities that have been attacked. So everything, every type of production facility is getting attacked. So it's not just chickens, not just eggs, not just beef, it's all types of processing.
• 13:33
  And that's really where the money and the risk is a lot of the times because they're choke points, they're expensive to build, they take time to rebuild if you lose one. Some of this could be insurance fraud. So you have to look at this, you know, when someone burned down their own business to get retooled, that could be some of it. Maybe everyone's decided to burn down their own facilities. That could be part of it.
• 13:56
  What else could be going on here? Well, you can say maybe the US government was doing it against their own people. I don't think some of that is so far fetched based on what we've witnessed with COVID, unfortunately. I mean, I think that would have been crazy talk a few years ago and now, you know, it makes you wonder I wouldn't say that there this would be full on authorized by a US government agency, but it's a fact that the US government has been heavily compromised by the Chinese. And there are a number of elected officials saying the White House and in Congress that have demonstrated to have close ties financially to the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese.
• 14:39
  There could be some rotten apples within the government sort of making this happen or turning a blind eye to it or steering the investigation off. This is definitely not right wing extremism. So this is not like some militia group going on burning down like rural farm facilities. And that doesn't make any sense. It'd be actually probably damaging their own livelihood.
• 15:03
  This is not Muslim extremism because the goal of terrorism ultimately is to instill fear in the population. So you have to look at the consequence of these type of attacks. So the consequence that we're observing is mostly economic and it's causing fear, but it's also creating it's destabilizing our country.
• 15:28
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, have a quick message for you. Let me ask you a question. If today you could no longer go to the grocery store to buy more food for your family, how long would your family survive on the food that you have at home? Would it be a week or two weeks or a month or two months? Even though look, you know, America has been a beautiful safe place to live for a very long time.
• 15:52
  The reality is, is that we are now under a lot of threat. And as you're seeing in the interview today, it's obvious that there are state actors and our own government or the Chinese, or the Russians, or any other organizations that are trying to overtake America. And one of the key things they're targeting is our food supply system. And so they are actively trying to disrupt our food because they want us to be weakened and starving and really kind of going in with our hands out and willing to accept whatever they want us to take in exchange for food and security. So please think about it.
• 16:28
  How much food do you have? Our food is under a great threat right now. So I really encourage you to have at least I would recommend at least two or three months worth of storable food that's gonna last. Ideally, you've got three to six months. I mean, because you never know how long these situations could last.
• 16:46
  And there's a lot of different food bucket companies out there and like I've tried a lot of them, and they are not all equal. A lot of the bigger names, their goal is just to pack as many calories as possible for as cheap as possible. But what happens you get much a filler, a bunch of this not healthy. And look, if you're in a stressful situation where you're actually tapping into your food reserves, you need healthy food. And that's why I recommend Heaven's Harvest.
• 17:10
  So Heaven Heart Heaven's Harvest is a Christian patriot owned company based in Georgia. I know the owners, they're fantastic people, and you can get storeable food buckets, like protein buckets, you know, cans, etc. They'll last up to twenty five years, but also they sell heirloom seed kits. So you're not eating your storeable food, can actually grow new food. And I highly recommend everyone in America should have food and seeds that are stored for the long haul.
• 17:36
  Because right now, like look what happened in the past couple of years, folks, we have no idea what's next. And while I have a lot of hope for the future, I also want to be very prepared for whatever they're gonna throw at us. And so to stock up, go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, you'll get 15 off your order. So again, it's heavensharvest.com with promo code Seth.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: In terms of creating economic or financial harm. So who would wanna do that? That's that's the next question. We eliminate a number of people. So I think this tends to look like the globalist left, the world economic foundation types.
• 18:18
  It could be there could be a state sponsored component to it. It could be someone like Iran or the Chinese or the BRICS countries. Okay? If you look at most of domestic food production, and I'm gonna have some more information coming on this when I do some more in-depth analysis in the coming weeks, but American food infrastructure is mostly owned by the Chinese. And this has been a process going on since the late two thousands.
• 18:51
  And I actually sat in national security meetings where Colonel Hoffman and myself and Paul Kaplan and another gentleman by the name of Doctor. Steve Conrad, who are all experts in this, were making a big stink about our food system being bought up by the Chinese. And JBS, which is a Brazilian company, but also heavily backed by the Chinese. So see where the path of money here keeps going? They have incentive to drive prices up, create market instability and worst case scenario what this could be, this is the kind of behavior you engage in before a full on war.
• 19:28
  You'd want it to stabilize and soften your target and disrupt critical infrastructures like power, electricity, same thing in most cases, chemical supply, food being the most important, water. If you can disrupt chemicals, food, water, and energy, you're not gonna have to you're not gonna have a lot of resistance when you have to do something like an invasion or an attack. And that could be somewhere else in the globe. If if the other country that you're trying to deal with is to destabilize with what's going on internally, then they're distracted and you might get away with your operation elsewhere. That's a good distraction tactic.
• 20:12
  And it could be straight up trying to create division with The United States to push us towards civil war. But those are the obvious consequences of what are happening. And these data just happened to go missing from my house from the very people that are telling us to eat bugs. I mean, can't make this up. So these data go missing, my devices get hacked.
• 20:36
  I report this to the FBI, VHS, FDA, and USDA. Nobody investigates. Multiple emails, multiple inquiries. These are people that some of them I used to work with had a top secret clearance set, classified meetings with these people, nothing. So I can begin to war game or strategize or come up with scenarios that what happened to my data.
• 21:00
  So I've met some of the people that were breaking into my house and trespassing my property and doing all this terrible crap to my family and I. And they're not very smart people. They're low level people in law enforcement and the state police or the FBI. And, you know, they come into my house and they steal a hard drive. Maybe they dump it out on the street and sell it on the market on eBay.
• 21:22
  They have no clue what it is. But guess what? It gets into someone's hands eventually that they know what it is. And maybe the bad guys are watching, you know, our crooked cops because this is the reality of the intelligence community. They're all spying.
• 21:37
  They're all working in our country and on each other. They're all watching each other, you know. Dumb cops dump this stuff somewhere and then some other foreign government goes, They had no clue what that guy had. But there's been no investigation. The reason why there's been no investigation is because that would then implicate themselves into the crimes that they committed against myself and my family.
• 21:59
  So this story, I sort of joked about it last year on Twitter. I said something to be effective. Well, I think I got the biggest story of 2022 and I'll have the biggest one in 2023 just because of our government stupidity. And it breaks my heart that this is happening and these attacks are happening, but the fact that these are attacks and the Department of Homeland Security and FBI are so incompetent, they can't see it as that because they have nobody that knows how to do it.
• 22:28
  Seth Holehouse: And it's just insane to put it all together. Right? It's like what you mentioned that, you know, maybe a couple years ago, this would have been really conspiratorial, but now it actually makes sense. I mean, if you look at, you know, you were doing this research, you know, upwards of a decade ago, looking for the vulnerabilities in our food systems. And, you know, we know that that there's a lot of plans that the globalists, these organizations, the Rockefeller Foundation, etcetera, like SPARS, you know, the SPARS document, Operation Lockstep, they do this this game, you know, wargaming, you know, sometimes ten, fifteen, twenty years in advance, like they're, they're not thinking in terms of, you know, like next year.
• 23:05
  It's like the Chinese, the Chinese are fighting a hundred year war against America. It's not some small spat like this is a, the war against us started under Mao at the very beginning of the Chinese Communist Party. Right? And so if you look at all of this, you kind of piecing it all together, it's like, wow, that was ten years ago. You had all that data, you start seeing all these factories burning down, processing plants, distribution centers, you correlate that like, oh my gosh, this is exactly what your data pointed out as being the critical vulnerabilities of our food distribution networks in our country, which is what feed the populace, right?
• 23:46
  Like, you know, if you don't there's a saying I think that we're always about, I guess we're always nine meals away from anarchy, right? After three days of no food, the entire country will be burned down, right, because people have to eat and if they if they can't eat, they're gonna break in their neighbor's house, they're gonna break into the grocery store, it just it sends everything into chaos. Actually, I just did an interview with a guy named Jonathan Hollerman, who is a SEER instructor and he's really involved in grid security. And the whole discussion was what happens if an EMP goes off. And you're looking at how an EMP affects the food system is like that's the number one thing.
• 24:21
  It's a starvation coming from that. And so kind of tying it all together and with where we are now and looking at how our government has weaponized so many of the agencies against us and just different aspects of the media and the big tech, It makes sense. But what's interesting is that I like the the perspective you brought about the Chinese because I feel like that especially within the conservative movement, there's a growing kind of hatred towards our government, right? And people are saying, it's the American imperialism and it's it's become the evil empire. And I agree that our government does some very corrupt things, but I try to keep reminding people that a lot of the actions of our government are people that are being controlled by foreign powers that are acting on behalf of them.
• 25:06
  Right? So whether it's our politicians, our CEOs, even our president right now is like, is he acting on behalf of the American people or is he acting on behalf of China? Which you know, like why is it that I think it was like on day two of being in office, Biden undid the executive order that that blocked China and Iran from having access to our power grid. It's like, why would he undo that and say, okay, yeah, we'll now take your your input on this. And so, yeah, it just it really is crazy to piece this all together.
• 25:38
  And so when you're looking at this, and you're seeing these factories that are burning down and you're correlating it, in your research and also just with you kind of extrapolating on data, where does this lead to? Because I think that right now, you know, lot of people will say, okay, well eggs are more expensive and and, you know, maybe I can't get that that one cheese I really liked, but, you know, you still walk into the grocery store, it's overflowing with food for the most part. It doesn't feel like there's food shortages that are here. Though it's I'm sure you probably saw the recent thing with the eggs how they're saying that all these these chickens stopped laying because of the the feed they're being fed. There's a conspiracy with Purina and Tractor Supply, they put something in the feed to stop the chickens from laying eggs which is like, again, five years ago, hard to believe.
• 26:28
  Now, yeah, it makes more sense than most stories that you see on the news. So where, like, in your understanding of this whole situation, where does this go to? I mean, are these attacks that have been made, are they enough to really tip the scales? And do you think that we're gonna see food issues really arising here in America?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I'll come back to that in a second. So I actually called a number of egg producers and some of my students that were veterinarians that went to go work in in chicken and egg production. So I gave them a call this week and I said, what's going on with this this feed story? And they pointed out something very simple to me. They said, this is the one of cloudiest winters we've had in a couple decades.
• 27:11
  And chickens are light regulated. So when they're not getting enough light, they're not laying eggs. So that it's not an issue with their feed. I I spoken with a number of the biggest companies in the country. It's it's just a light issue.
• 27:22
  And a lot of the big, even small producers, they don't have the right type of light equipment to light the chickens. So they're just that's what the shortage is probably due to. Interesting. Oh, and there's also avian influenza circulating too. So when avian influenza, getting hit two things with one.
• 27:41
  So it's cloudy and then there's avian influenza. And when one chicken comes down with avian influenza in one of these production facilities, they actually go in with a foam and they spray a foam inside the facility and kill all the chickens off instantly because it it spreads so fast and it's so dangerous to production. It's cheaper and more efficient just to kill them all off, call the herd, the flock, and start over. So that's that's the reality there. With in terms of where this is going, so I actually wrote a paper about pandemics in the food supply back in 2013, showing that there's likely to be food shortages when there's pandemics.
• 28:18
  So supply chains work when there's disruptions in a supply chain, they can come from two different things. Maybe three, and we can get into that in a second. So the first one is labor shortage. So if you don't have enough people showing up to work or to drive trucks, the product doesn't flow through the supply chain. And you can sort of, I visualize supply chains as basically being like a pipeline, because that's what they are.
• 28:41
  Product goes from point A to point B to point C to the retailer and you buy it. Different things happen along the way, but it's essentially a pipeline. So the other thing that can happen is that you don't have the ingredients or equipment, those are the other two things to process and make the thing that you want to make. So if you're making a complex food product, like let's say mustard, if you can't get ahold of salt to make mustard, then guess what? Your whole mustard production line shuts down because you don't have salt for the product you're trying to make.
• 29:12
  And that's true of all different complex more complex the the food product, the more at risk it is or the more process mechanical processing it takes. You know, another way this can go south. So if a food producer loses access to sanitation, water, or electricity, and this is what believe his name was John, you said? The the guy who was previous
• 29:33
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. John Hollerman. Yeah. He's an author and and yep.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So John Hollerman, what he was getting at too, so if you lose one of these other critical infrastructures, it has tertiary secondary and third order effects. And that's one of the risks with with food production. So you lose access to water sanitation, chemicals, or power. Okay.
• 29:54
  That's another thing that can happen. Or you lose the equipment. So maybe you have some fancy processing machine where the special parts are manufactured in China. Okay. And because it's a specialized item and it's supposed to be reliable, it never breaks, but this one breaks.
• 30:09
  And now the whole production line shuts down for a month because you're waiting for this part to get built and then shipped to you. And these are the realities. And what happens anytime one of these negative events occurs, it starts a So imagine cracking a bullwhip. When you crack it, you have a big, huge curve. I'm going to draw a line here on the screen.
• 30:29
  And then the curves get smaller, smaller, but they get faster. They get faster, faster, and faster. And eventually that whip cracks the speed of sound, goes faster than the speed of sound, and then it happens and explodes. Well, that's what happens with supply chain failures. So what happens is you start having these little disruptions upstream in the pipeline or on on the rope.
• 30:51
  And the magnitude of this thing is building, building, building, building until it's going so fast out of control, it it explodes and it flies apart. So that's what we're starting to witness here. And that's what we've actually been witnessing since Trump was office with COVID related supply side issues with beef production. So they weren't having enough workers to show up at the meat processing facilities. It wasn't that there was a shortage of cows.
• 31:15
  They didn't have enough people to process the animals. So when they when he initiated the Defense Production Act, he was forcing those workers to go back and risk getting COVID, which we know probably wasn't all that severe anyways. But he forced those workers into the production facilities so that they could process the meat and then, you eventually a month or two things started going back to normal. But you noticed that these weird disruptions continued throughout the duration of the pandemic over two to three years. Now, what's happening though, because these facilities are being destroyed and they take longer to rebuild them and bring them back online, we're at a point if they keep happening that remember what I said about that curve building?
• 31:55
  You'll hit to a point where explosions we're going to hit that point where we'll be beyond beyond the point of no return and things will start to break system wide because there's only so many different ingredients and and process facilities that you can pull out where you start to have before you start to have shortages and really impact on on on supply. Demand is going stay the same unless Americans, you know, all go on a diet at the same time, which would actually be great because we're a super fat country. That's a whole another discussion, but, you know, we're overweight and we eat unhealthy. It would actually probably be good to to change some of our dietary habits. And that's probably why some of these crazy people are doing this, right?
• 32:29
  They want us to eat bugs. I mean, that's what they've said. Now, there's probably good nutritional reason to actually do that, but why should we have to do that? Okay. And why should we be manipulating the system so that we are pushed and nudged into these kind of decision space?
• 32:45
  We shouldn't be. So with that, there can very likely be a catastrophic system failure, I would say a year, year and a half from today, if things were to stay the same. I don't think that things will stay the same. I think the fact that I'm out here talking about this right now and identifying this as these events as attacks will hopefully change the future. The other thing that's happening is I have a big network of people who work in security, national security, food defense is the the term of they use for protecting the food supply, who work in these positions in corporate America.
• 33:22
  A lot of these people I used to work within the government, they got sick of working for the government, so they went to the private sector. So we all talk. And if there are any food producers listening to this right now, what I recommend you do is that you bring in physical security for night so for night watch at your facility and have them do patrol so an arsonist doesn't come in and burn it down. The other way that these attacks could be happening is that with some of the more advanced facilities. They could be cyber attacks on what are known as SCADA systems.
• 33:51
  So these are SCADA systems are the systems that control industrial controllers and production equipment. And there's also logistical controllers in here and process controllers, which have motors in them. So there's way to hack through these systems to actually cause these motors to start fires. And if you own one of the if you're a food producer and you have facilities that are more advanced and hooked up to the Internet, you can watch the the production facility run on your phone with all the different statistics, then you should have a cybersecurity audit done immediately by a cybersecurity professional and and lock it down to the best of your ability and consider taking it off the internet if these attacks keep happening. So this is the reality.
• 34:31
  I mean, food systems are wide open in terms of your ability to attack them. There are about 2,000,000 facilities in The United States. Not all these are high priority, high target list facilities. I know how many of these are high priority target facilities for attack. So, you know, which facilities you wanna attack, I'm not gonna into that though, but there are a number of them.
• 34:54
  So for the most part though, most facilities aren't at risk because they don't have that much of an impact. But, you know, one of these facilities that if for people who are watching the audience and they work at a food facility, the plant managers and the big companies know if they're on this list. So just be encouraged during and take the appropriate action and bring the necessary security to prevent bad things from happening because what I suspect has been happening is that, like I said, these are soft targets. And if you're gonna go in and light up this facility on fire and there's nobody working there until the night, it's a very easy thing to do.
• 35:28
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I mean, it seems like they've been very successful at it or you just find someone that will crash a plane into a building for you. That seems to also work pretty well, which was kind of odd that we're seeing even even those kinds of attacks happening on these plants. So what when piece this all together, you know, you're so you said, okay, I like your analogy of the bullwhip is that we're kind of you're accelerating at the end of that. And as we accelerate, it's like it's like almost like dominoes falling at each domino, like the ones that get bigger and bigger and bigger, right?
• 36:03
  Towards the end when the final one falls, it's this massive it's this massive thing. And so based upon what your predictions are, it was analysis that if nothing changes or if things don't change enough, right, that within the next say twelve to eighteen months, we're going to see a serious disruption to food in America. And like, what would that look like? Would mean that, you know, I go to see, you know, where I'm at, there's a store in the Midwest called Kroger, right? And they're one of the places that's local and some might stop in occasionally.
• 36:39
  I try to buy from farmers and everything. So would it mean that I go into the store and there's just there's no berries, there's no apples. I go to the meat area and they say, you know, look, we only have this one we have one brand of beef in right now. And obviously, if that's the case, I imagine those things will be getting much more expensive because of supply and demand that if half the beef is no longer available, the price of beef goes up double, right, to meet that demand. So how do you, like, what would that look like in terms of like the day to day life in America under the conditions of that bullwhip really hitting its cracking point?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So it can take in a number of different forms. So the first thing with The US food supply, there's products that come from international suppliers, distributors, and then there's products which are regional or local. And depending where you live in the country, that system can look very different. So California is very interesting in The United States in the fact that it's almost its entirely own system. And liquid products are not shipped from the East Coast to the West Coast because they expand and freeze going over the mountains.
• 37:49
  And it costs a lot of money to ship liquids over the mountains. So they typically keep liquids West Coast and East Coast. Interesting fact. So that's just one example. So liquid milk, for example, in California, it doesn't leave California, but they'll make cheese out of it and then they'll ship that cheese all over the country.
• 38:07
  So seasonality is another factor here. So you'd probably see less berries, for example, which you brought up from Southern California making out to the East Coast during the winter. But most of our produce during the winter months in North America comes from Central And South America anyways. So unless those attacks scale up in most places as well, that probably wouldn't change. And the reason why the grain and meat production is interesting is that that's a big chunk of GDP for a country and you need the feed to feed the animals.
• 38:42
  And you need protein to have a big, healthy, strong military fighting force to have good cognition during the day. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why you go after the protein supply and the things that support it. It also, if you go after meat production facilities, the processing, if they go down, they take a long time to rebuild. But worst case scenario, what you would start to see is you'd start to see the complex products fall apart first. And those would be the products on the inside of the grocery store.
• 39:14
  So you see short term disruptions and things like meat, chicken, eggs, because it's a more vertical supply chain and it's a shorter supply chain. So the animal gets killed, slaughtered, and it's within it's on your shelf in a couple of days, you know, in a day or two. And other products are typically fourteen days. So for example, a granola bar from an unnamed large company that I know, they actually plan for it to age in the package from the time they manufacture it and produce it by the time you buy it and open the store. And that's typically about a four day window from the inside inside of the grocery store, the inside circle, about the processed products or more processed products.
• 39:53
  So as things start to break down, those products become less available because they can't get the one ingredient that they need to make it. So if they can't get chicken, they can't get eggs if you buy meat products, you know, like soups and things, this starts to have fluctuations. And when they start to have fluctuations on their production runs, then they start looking at alternative products that they can make to stay profitable. Because you have to remember their financial component operations of their business is oftentimes running these facilities 20 fourseven. And if they're unable to make a product 20 fourseven, then they started immediately looking for a different product to make.
• 40:28
  So I think you start to have less complex or new products come in the market to fill in those products for a period of time. And then, you know, depending on how bad it is, they start losing access to chemicals that they need to process or sanitation things shut down, that really causes bottlenecks. But I think you can count on the outer ring of the grocery store, except for the baked goods to be a staple. Baked goods once again are complex products, but you just start to see less variety. So what ultimately I think we would see is that there would be a lot less variety of products available.
• 41:06
  That's the main thing. Spices, spices pretty much don't come from The United States. They're outsourced from Asia or Africa, other places. So, you know, unless they have disruptions there and supply chain shutdown, spices are still coming in. That's important because, I mean, I I like to put a lot of spice in my food.
• 41:22
  Don't know about you. But I don't want to eat bland things. So it it it's probably not as bad as you think because unless there's a big a pandemic or epidemic among our animal production, I don't see the meat going away. It just becomes more regional available food supplies. It probably starts to look more like, you know, '18 or 1905 in The United States.
• 41:44
  We have we'll still have refrigeration. We'll still have the ability to freeze things. It doesn't all go away. It just becomes less complex. And, you know, you're eating probably more beets and and rutabagas and potatoes and things in the winter, things that store and keep.
• 41:58
  And and then grow, you know, later in the season, pumpkins, stuff like that versus having fruit available. But like I said, unless there's a disruption down south, you're still getting fruit. So what really gets hard is the the processed items in the middle of the grocery store.
• 42:12
  Seth Holehouse: So, yes, that's a really logical and helpful way of understanding it all. And thankfully, I mean, my wife and I eat really quite healthy and most of my shopping if I do go to the grocery store is on the outer ring. You know, the only time I'm going in the middle is if I wanna get some coffee or some, you know, some chocolate or tea or, you know, gummy bears, which we use to bribe our little little one to do things. So, yeah, so that's that is helpful. So I know that you and I have had some conversations off the camera where we've talked about just our kind of lifestyle.
• 42:47
  I know that you're you're really very off grid, and I'm sure that you're quite self sufficient. So for people that are that are watching this and thinking, okay, well, there's, you know, I'm seeing in multiple places discussions of food shortages. And then there's just the overall thing of, okay, what happens if there is an EMP or what happens if there's a lot of those kinds of scenarios which take everything else and throw out the window. It's like then you're really kind of dealing with a very difficult situation. So what's some of your just personal advice for folks that want to be more prepared for whatever happens next?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Sure. So learning how to be resilient. And it's funny. These people talk about EMP. Well, a solar flare can do it too.
• 43:31
  I mean, that's what I like to point out to people. Solar flare is probably the most likely to happen. So learn how to can. I mean, there there if you if you have land or small even heck, even when I had a quarter acre house, my first house, I I had quite a garden. You know, they had the World War two style victory garden and grow things that are not too complicated and hardy.
• 43:52
  For North America, I mean, it's typically tomatoes, squash, cucumbers. And you'll be amazed that even with a tiny little garden, the output you can have, plant diverse crops because diseases might come in and insects or pests that might wipe out one of the species of plant that you have. Know, it might take away your tomatoes, but it won't affect your corn. Don't waste your time growing corn. It's a it's a low nutrition product and it's resource intensive.
• 44:21
  It'll bring in the wildlife and then they'll you know, the deer will hammer your will hammer your your corn and everything else that you have. You see rabbits in the garden. If it gets desperate enough, that that's a good source of food too, so shoot your rabbits. There's there's ton tons of them. You start to learn how to hunt and fish.
• 44:39
  I mean, so if times get really desperate, the best way to catch fish is you create fish traps and streams. And I've done it myself before when I was kid, and it's highly effective. They just all pool up and then you go there with, a landing net and you can scoop them all up. So, yeah, you just gotta learn how to how to forage. But the problem really is if it's really a bad scenario and it's a nationwide kind of issue is that you're gonna have a lot of people trying to do this.
• 45:05
  I live in a in a rural enough area where I'm not, like, worried about some big city, like, coming out to my area, but then you start to get a lot of pressure on the natural population of of things that you can eat. And when you have more people foraging, it becomes more difficult. So, you know, there's a state sustainability issue of trying to maintain a healthy population so you don't over hunt it or over fish it. Learn how to forage things like mushrooms. You know, you can live on mushrooms for quite a while.
• 45:33
  There there are some pretty nasty mushrooms that you can misidentify in North America, so you have to be careful about that. And there's some mushrooms which are only poisonous to some people if you have the right genetics or wrong genetics. And the problem is you don't know if you can eat those unless you test eat them. There's a few species like that where some people think they're delicious and other people either get violently sick or die. So you have to do some reading and some studies.
• 45:59
  So stay away from the ones that, you know unless you know somebody who really knows how to forage for mushrooms, find a guy that or a woman, a person that really knows their stuff and try to learn from them. You can actually harvest your own mushrooms too. I've actually grown my own mushrooms. It's fairly easy to do. And, you know, chickens, eggs, very easy to maintain a small flock.
• 46:21
  If you wanted to get into things like livestock, I'd recommend, I guess, livestock because it takes a lot more knowledge and resources unless you really know what you're doing in a free range, your animals. But predators can get your livestock if, you know, you're talking about goats and where I live. I don't think they would last long with cats and and wolves and things. So, yeah, you just you just gotta try to be resilient and grow as much buffer as you can. And then worst case scenario, then you have to learn how to sort budget your meals.
• 46:51
  Right? So you take a look at how many calories it it takes to sustain you and start cutting that in half. I think the Mars movie with Matt Damon, you know, he has to figure out how to cut his food supply, and he's eating potatoes every day or whatever. I forget whatever crazy diet he's on. But, you know, if time times get tough like that, it's a good idea.
• 47:09
  And it's also important to have an emergency buffer supply of food. I actually I haven't started my stubs substack yet, but I actually have a article written about this. And one of the things I talk about, it's very important to have about a two week supply of ready to eat food, whether those be MREs or, you know, you watch Alex Jones and you get some food buckets, whatever your preferred preserved food was. Make sure that it's not something, you know, not in the freezer or not refrigerator. You don't want this to have to require energy to use it.
• 47:38
  You want it want it to be portable. Because if things get really bad, you know, there's some bad events and disaster that takes place, whatever that is. You don't want it to be thinking about where your next meal is gonna come from. You just want to have that food available and ready because it's gonna take you two weeks to adapt to whatever the new normal is. And then while you have that buffer supply, then you can hopefully transition to whatever your you know, you you take care of whatever your emergency situation is and you can then transition into whatever your food store is or your new food plan.
• 48:05
  Or you can at least figure it out if you didn't didn't, but it's really important to have a two week emergency supply. And this is something that that FEMA recommends. I mean, this is what I'm telling you is not, like, proper kind of stuff. I mean, the federal government tells people they have flashlights, a couple weeks supply of food and water. It's just it's just a good idea.
• 48:23
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It really is. That's what's what's kind of a neat thing about this whole process and it needs not the right word, but it feels like a lot of what's happening, know, we we hear about the great reset, but a lot of things are being reset. And I think that what they're being reset to is a more traditional way of living and a more sustainable way of living where instead of walking to a Walmart and buying some beef that was grown in Brazil and flown up here or some chicken that was processed in China, you're going to your local farm market or you're going directly to the farm because you know where they're at and you're buying directly from the farmer, which is that's that's my favorite way aside from you growing or raising your own stuff. And also, yeah, couldn't agree more though also with with storeable food, whether it's food buckets or, you know, we kind of bit the bullet, we bought a freeze dryer.
• 49:11
  And so right now we're doing batches of ground beef. So we have a local guy that does organic grass fed cows, we could buy half a cow at a time, or we can buy like a 50 pounds of ground beef. And basically, it's kind of interesting, you can actually take that ground beef raw and you lay it out on these trays and you freeze dry it. So in one batch, freeze dryer batch, I can get about 12 pounds of ground beef and you put it in mylar bags with auction packets and seal it and that beef will now sit a stable on a shelf without refrigeration. It'll last like twelve to fifteen years.
• 49:46
  So it's a pretty incredible invention, but you know, obviously, you know, that there's a lot of time and cost in that. So, you know, think that the that's why these these food bucket companies have done really well because they do make it easy for people to say, okay, you know what, I'll get that that one month supply, I'll get that two months supply. I'll here to use a calculator, I got three people in the family, so we need this many buckets and, you know, I've got some of that too just sitting in like the back of the cellar. It's just those emergency, you know, open you know, break glass to open type situation.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Well, my one of my friends actually does what what you do. So he makes, like, chipped beef and he he has, like, a chipped beef recipe that he either dehydrates or he store prepare it free dry freeze dries freeze dries like you. And I'm gonna it's delicious. I mean, he'll make, like well, it's probably not appropriate burrito, but beef on shingles or or podcast, I should say. Yeah.
• 50:43
  Seth Holehouse: So we're we're kind nearing the end of our hour to go. So I really appreciate this time with you. And we were gonna get into the the vaccines and the foods and stuff like that. I think it's probably gonna be a different discussion. But do you have any closing thoughts for people about what we've talked about?
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Sure. And I think I can preview the issue with the vaccines and the food. MRNA is not coming anywhere near your food supply anytime soon, and I can explain why on a future episode. You wanna do this again? But the closing thoughts are are this.
• 51:15
  There are bad people out there who wanna do bad things to us. Conservatives, libertarians, you know, people that are just even normal, like, center of the road now. Think we're all coming together because we realize what's happened in the last couple of years. And we need to stand up to these bad actors who are doing this to us. I mean, there's relatively few of them.
• 51:32
  Yes. They have a lot of money and power, but only because we allow them to have it. So stop saying yes to the madness. Say no. Do not comply whether we're talking about mRNA COVID stuff, this insanity with our government, the food supply.
• 51:47
  It's all really the same kind of beast that we're fighting. We just have to stand up, be independent, do it the right way, don't be violent, and try to try to make change, get active in politics. I mean, this is these are just, you know, the same stuff I think, you know, my parents and I heard that I used to hear in school, but it's time for, you know, the millennials in the generation after us to step step up and start taking control of our country.
• 52:10
  Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree more. I think also just educating ourselves and learning how to be more resilient and more self sufficient. Because, you know, if the it's like, know, Henry Kissner talked about controlling the food, the money and the energy and how you can control the world, basically, it's like, well, if we can take more control over our food, our money and our energy, then we're lessening the chains that they can use to enslave us and gives us more freedom at the end. So, I want to encourage folks to follow you on Twitter. So I know that I love following on Twitter.
• 52:41
  You post a lot of great information. You've got a good Substack that you're launching. Have you launched your Substack yet or it's on the verge of
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, haven't launched it yet. I've been writing the articles. Doctor. Malone asked me to write a bunch of articles, which I did. And he's like, alright, Substack up.
• 52:54
  I've just been too busy with other stuff. So hopefully in the next couple of weeks.
• 52:57
  Seth Holehouse: Good. And so on Twitter, it's if I'm correctly, it's aghuff. Is that right?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: That's correct. Aghuff.
• 53:05
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. Awesome. Well, Andrew, thank you again for being here. It's a pleasure talking to you and what an interesting perspective about what's happening right now, especially with your background and researching these, these food facilities. So hopefully, you know, hopefully we're able to correct what's happening before the end of the bullwhip gets here.
• 53:24
  So that's my hope.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's now or never and myself and a number of other people that I used to work with, we're stepping up to the plate. We're gonna we're trying to prevent it.
• 53:34
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Well, you for doing what you're doing. It's come a great sacrifice to your own, you know, kind of personal freedom and you've been targeted heavily. So thanks for being a voice that's not being controlled and speaking, you know, honesty and truth. And I look forward to having you again soon.
• 53:51
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• 54:19
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• 54:59
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