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Spider Solutions and Superhero Paints (and Their Butlers) · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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Well, good morning everybody, Happy weekend. Hopefully you enjoyed the fourth of
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July and you spent last weekend you know with all of your digits and no
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burns. That's the repcal Light Fourth of July wish for everybody out there.
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You're listening to the repco Light Home Improvement Show sponsored by Benjamin Moore and Man,
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let me tell you, I've got a big show this week. I've
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got a special surprise guest joining me at the end of the show to talk
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about a design concept called the Unexpected Red Theory. I'm also going to be
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joined by Kevin Herman from Benjamin Moore to talk about the Alfred Pennyworth of the
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paint World. Now Alfred for those of you who don't know, as Batman's
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butler. And while we always talk about superhero products like scuffax and sticks,
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this time I kind of want to talk about a product that's more like Alfred.
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It's a little bit silly, but it's going to be fun. I'm
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also going to be joined by David pop from Rose Pest Solutions to talk about
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the spider problem Won't Won't Walm in the Hansen House. So a lot of
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things to cover it's a full show. But right now, let's start the
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show. Since we just came off a fourth of July. Let's talk about
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George Washington and how home improvement projects helped win the Revolutionary War and can help
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you win your own many revolutions at home. That is a ridiculous title,
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a long title, but the concept behind it is pretty solid. And here's
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the scoop. During the Revolutionary War, George Washington sent a number of letters
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back from the warfront to his home at Mount Vernon. And while these letters
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all conveyed the usual greetings and whatnot, many of them also contained instructions,
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detailed instructions for home projects that George was micromanaging from a distance. Now,
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to some extent, this whole thing has been a bit of a puzzle for
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some historians. I mean, here we have George up to his eyeballs in
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a war that threatened his life in the future of the nation, and what's
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he doing at night. He's writing letters about the color of the draperies,
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or the work that he wants done to the chimneys, or he's even sending
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some letters asking about how the painter's getting on. It is a little bit
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odd historians have wondered, you know, what's going on here? How could
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these ridiculous issues be filling his mind at this point in his life. While
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a group of UCLA psychologists believe they've hit upon the answer, and I definitely
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think they've got a big part of it, probably most of it. But
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I do think there's a second part that's at play too. And we're going
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to get to my idea in a minute, but first let's give the psychologists
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their due. Their argument is this, they think that George probably didn't understand
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that it was happening at the time. He didn't realize this was happening.
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But these small projects and decisions that he was making regarding home stuff, you
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know, at Mount Vernon, these were helping him focus and they were giving
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him the confidence for the bigger, more important decisions that he was going to
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be making on the battlefields later that day or the next. See. It
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turns out making small decisions, even insignificant ones, can really help shift our
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mindset from feeling like a passenger in life to feeling like a driver. It
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can instill us with a sense of control and accomplishment. Now, for Washington,
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when his brain was fatigued and overwhelmed by war troubles. His head is
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spinning, you know, and he's beaten into what had to be a mental
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state of exhaustion and you know, almost stagnation. When that's going on,
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these little decisions could have calmed him down and then helped them get moving again.
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Now that's one psychological explanation for why, you know, George was focused
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on these projects despite being involved in leading an army and a revolution. Now,
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I think there's another one, one that's just as important, but a
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lot easier to grasp. I think he was homesick. I think the home
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projects were a little window into regular life. You know, it was relief
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from the stress, and it helped him clearly visualize the future, you know,
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the future that he's fighting for. You know, basically, he's got
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his eyes on returning home, and when he does, he wants home to
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feel like home. I think it's that simple. And I also think that
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there's something in this that we can all take advantage of, you know,
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when life's chaotic and challenging. You know, once in a while, when
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that happens and life's challenging or chaotic, maybe what we need to do is
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take on some small manageable projects. Not doesn't need to be painting, but
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it sure could be painting. Not saying don't paint, I'm just saying you
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don't have to paint. It could be as simple as organizing a room.
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Maybe it's just reorganizing the silverware drawer. Maybe that's where you need to start.
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Maybe it's gardening. Maybe it's attacking the weeds that are growing in the
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cracks, you know, in the driveway. You know. Maybe it's painting
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a closet. Maybe it is painting. Who knows. Little tasks like these
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they can give us a mental break when we need it, and they can
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instill a sense of achievement. And even if that sense of achievement is tiny,
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that usually starts a domino effect of sorts. You know, our confidence
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starts to get a boost, and we feel energized to tackle something new,
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and things just kind of grow from there. Secondly, when the world's spinning,
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you know, when our world is spinning, our personal world is spinning.
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Working to create a space in our home, you know, a sanctuary
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of sorts that's just really good for us, you know, mentally, physically,
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and spiritually. It's just good stuff. It worked for the father of
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our country. It can work for us to So there you go. Paint
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saves the day again as always. All right, going to take a break.
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When we come back, I'm going to be talking with Rose Pest Solutions
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about an army that's invaded my own personal sanctuary and we're going to find out
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how I can get rid of them and restore peace to the land. All
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of that's coming up next. Stick around, let's solve one of my problems.
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You're listening to the Ripple Light home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore,
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and a couple of months ago, I noticed that there had been a leak
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in my roof, or at least something along those lines, because I saw
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some water stains running down a wall and I needed to figure out what was
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going on. So I got a flashlight out and I started looking at the
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ceiling and trying to explore what's going on, and I discovered tons, hundreds
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and hundreds of cobwebs that I don't normally notice when the lights are off.
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When the flashlight's not on the ceiling, you don't see these things when the
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flashlight's up there. It's like we're living in the Adams family. A set
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piece from the Adams family. Well, I've got a spider problem. I
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know it, and I'm about to get my answers. I'm joined by David
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Pop from Rose Pest Solutions, and we're going to talk about the spider problem.
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David, thanks for being here. Yeah you bet. Now you're the
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district manager for the Grand Rapids area location, right, Yes, so you
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guys cover all over the place, right yep, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio.
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All right, there's a rose Pest Solutions near you. So if you've
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got spider issues too, I don't want to be alone in this. So
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it's pretty pretty eye opening and depressing. So you've been working with bugs for
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at rose Pest for twenty some years, right, twenty seventh year and forty
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one years in the industry. All right, So dealing with bugs? Do
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you go to school especially to deal with bugs. We have a phenomenal training
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staff, We have phenomenal resources that we can use. There's no schooling.
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I've not had any schooling except for the schooling of hard knocks, all right.
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But we do have a phenomenal training where they are new people go to
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a school, all right, So a good deal. Help me with my
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problem? You've heard my story. Cobwebs everywhere. You can't understand. I
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can't overstate how many there were, and I do have to, you know,
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for my own peace of mind. When the lights are not shining on
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the ceiling, the room does not look like a filth pit. Well,
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when I've got my flashlight up there, it's terrifying. Now, cobwebs.
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I know they're what just abandoned spider webs. Right there are abandoned spider webs
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that will carry on dust and any other item that might be floating around in
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the air. And so yeah, it looks it almost gives you the sense
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that, oh, I need to clean this place. Yeah, that's right.
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There are abandoned spider webs that lost their elasticity, so they're not catching
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any other insects. But there were spiders there at one time. Yeah,
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all right, So they're they're pulling the they're collecting the dust out of the
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air. So it's kind of like kind of like air filtration system that I've
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installed in my back living room. So they're some positives to be had,
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But I know that that means I've got a ton of spiders, and I
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know that I've got a ton of spiders ever since we moved in. You
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know, we'd get the periodic spider in our other house, but this house,
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it's just full of them. I mean we've become one with them.
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After a while, you just accept it. What in the world do I
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need to do? I mean, I clearly I've got to get somebody out
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there to take a look at this, because I don't want to live like
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this anymore. And what does this all look like? What would you do
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in this situation? Well, first off, I think there is something that
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you can do, and that is anytime you can, for a lack of
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better statement, insect proof your home, utilizing cock making sure that all your
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screens are amend making sure that that windows close properly, doors close closed properly
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to help prevent other insects from entering. Now, you got to remember that
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the reason spiders are there is because there's other insects coming around. They're the
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reason they put up a web. There is the likelihood of insects coming there
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because they're going to feed on it. Now, I have other problems too,
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You could have other problems. Yes, it may not be you know,
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like, oh my goodness, I've got a carpenter and infestation. It
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could be something as simple as night flying insects such as moths, or it
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could be flies. They're coming around. So my house sounds like a real
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joy to be in, doesn't it. It's the place with all the flies
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buzzing around it. There's spiders insides. Don't worry. You don't notice so
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many flies inside the spiders. Get them all right. Well, one of
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the other things you can do, Dan is you can you can monitor it
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and we use we'll take down webs. We'll take down cob webs, take
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down existing webs using a webster, which is just a broom that has a
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long extension on it, and we'll take those down and that helps us monitors
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as well as make it not very inviting for spider to be around. That's
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a good part of what you can do. And then do you know,
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obviously doing a treatment to take care of the other insects. It will take
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care of the spiders. But spiders are a difficult pest because they don't groom
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themselves and because of the way their bodies are. Their bodies are lifted up
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off of a surface, so they don't pick up an insecticides you can actually
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put an insecticide on them, like some type of aerosol, and it's going
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to kill them, don't get me wrong there, but it's difficult for them
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to pick it up. So by getting rid of the other insects, you
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are getting rid of the spider population. Okay, so we got to get
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rid of the other bugs first. And another thing you can do is,
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like I was saying, as far as brooming off the webs and so forth,
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you can use there are products out there. One of them is called
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web Away, which is it puts a type of surface where they don't want
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to be able to place their web. So you can utilize something where do
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I get webby? You know, I don't know if you can purchase it
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or not, and then I get it from you? Well you can,
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you can serve. Okay, you'll come out and use web away yes week
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as one. Can I use my broom or do I need a webster?
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You can use what did you call them? It's called a webster, a
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webster, So my broom will function, your broom will function. The one
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thing about a webster is it's round, and so it's almost like a ball,
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So it's going to fit into some areas where your broom may not be.
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Okay, okay, well, I really like the fact that it's got
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a name and that it's the Webster. In fact, i'd prefer to have
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that used in my home anyway, and nothing but the best for my fly
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ridden castle anyway. So let's say I get you out there. I'm gonna
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you know, I've already gotten all the webs down that I could see.
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But the thing is, I've got a crawl space, and every time I
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have to go in there to get stuff, I just see, you know,
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carcasses as far as the eye can see. That's where a lot of
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the bugs are coming from. So I've anticipated this that I'm going to need
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to get somebody out there to do that. Let me understand what the process
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looks like. So you're gonna come out. You're gonna have to assess it
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because I really don't know what the problem is. So walk me through the
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whole thing. Well, we would do a thorough inspection. We're gonna not
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only look around all around on the outside to see if we can point out
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areas where you're having, As an example, spiders accumulate. Why are they
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accumulating there? What are some of the things that we can do to take
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care of it. What are some of the things that you can do to
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take care of some different type of lighting some areas where again by ceiling with
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cock we'll point out those areas. We'll actually do kind of stepping a little
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bit further here or ahead, but we'll do an outside treatment where we'll treat
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it all the way around the house, around the windows, the doors,
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the eaves, the sofets around them, down by the foundation and on the
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ground. Then but on the inside we're going to do a thorough inspection.
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If you have a crawl space such as what you have, we're going to
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get into the crawl space, take a look around with a nice flashlight and
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see what we see as far as A good point is to shut the flashlight
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off, and if we can see light coming through from any conduit or any
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plumbing or anything any separation, we'll look for that as well. And we're
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going to treat inside there. We're going to inspect all all the rooms on
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the inside, the kitchens, the bathroom, the bathrooms, the all the
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course, all the bedrooms, and if you have an attic we're going to
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go up into the attic. Arie and take a look. Okay, so
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you come in, you treat them. I've got like a million questions.
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I'm trying to get my brain around what to ask first the treatment? How
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long does that last? I mean, so I've got to figure out how
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they're getting in or what's causing that, and get things sealed up. Sure,
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because I would assume the treatment's going to kill what's there, absolutely,
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But if I haven't solved that other problem, well yes, it's just going
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to continue on. And so when we come in and we do a treatment,
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we come out three times per year, So anytime in between, if
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you start to have any kind of trouble, we'll come back out at no
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cost. But three times a year is what we need to do to be
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able to establish a good pest management program in your place. Okay, so
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I'll get things sealed up. I probably need somebody to help me expose what
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areas need to be sealed up, and we can with some of that light
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light ceiling for you. Okay, Okay, if they were really glaringly obvious,
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I probably would have found them already because I have been looking. So
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I need somebody to help me with that. You come out, You come
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out, multiple times. Three times you said, is what makes that work?
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Ideally? Help me understand. You know, how long does it take
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when you come out, you know, to do a treatment in the house.
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Well, it depends on what's all involved. Now you had mentioned you
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have cross space in an attic that's going to take longer than us just walking
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through a basement. Sure, so it can be anywhere from forty five minutes
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to upwards a couple hours. It all depends on what we're looking at.
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Okay, do I need to be gone? Do I need to be there?
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We'd like you to be there. There's unless we're doing something that per
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our label instructions on the material that we're us using that says that you need
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to be outside of the house, then you can be there. Okay,
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So what about like my crawl space. There's all kinds of things in there
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that I can't even begin to imagine. Are the chemicals that you're using gonna
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seep into some of these items? Is that going to be a concern?
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Do I need to seal everything up? You don't get it in little eartight
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bags like clothing and bedrooms and stuff like that. You don't have to worry
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about bedrooms or anything like that. We're going to place the material in areas
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where the insects are going to be. So that's going to be in the
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cracks and crevices inside of a crawl space, depending on I'm not sure what
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type of flooring you have. Is it dirt floor is No, They've got
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old gross carpet in there, okay, on top of soil, on top
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of concrete, on top of concrete. So it's got that going for it.
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Okay, what you would do in that, you it's always best anytime
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you're in a crawl space. Any items that you have in there, get
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your tubs, seal them up in the tubs. It's not going to be
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a concern as far as the material that we're going to use because we're not
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going to target those areas, so it's not going to seep in as you
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refer to early. Okay, last thing, what about dogs pets? You
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know, I've got a couple of dumb dogs. They'll eat anything, lick
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all kinds of stuff. They try to eat bumblebees. Well, how do
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I keep them away from all of this stuff? How dangerous is it?
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For? Well, one of the things that we do not do at rose
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Pes Solutions is we're not as far as rodents are concerned. We're not going
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to put in rodent bait well into in areas because of the fact that dogs
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will and can get into something like that. I don't care how good a
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bait station would be as far as preventing animals from getting in there. They
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can still get into it. So we're not going to do that. The
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other areas that we treat. Again, we're not going to be putting this
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in any of the pets in any kind of harms way. Now, for
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instance, if we're going to be treating for fleas as an example, we
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want the dogs to be out as well as people being out until the product
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is dry on carpeting areas and so forth. Oh man, please, let's
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not even think about that. I've got all I can handle just thinking about
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the spiders and all of those things I've got to deal with, all right,
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So I get you out there, you walk through like the day that
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you come out. Last question and you kind of give me. Do you
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give me an estimate over the phone, or do you come out look at
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everything first and then come back and schedule a time to come out and actually
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treat how's that part. Well, no, we can actually give you an
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estimate over the phone. There could be, for instance, if you're not
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that great at given us square footage and things of that nature, our pricing
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may adjust as you get out there, but we leave that to the technician
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when they go out there. But we can actually do all the transactions over
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the phone when you first call, and then schedule a date and get it
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done that date that we decide upon. All right, how busy are you
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guys? I mean when people call, how readily available are you? We
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usually can get there the next day. Okay, we can really really nice.
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Yeah, it all depends though again as we get into our busier season,
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we try to get out there quickly as possible. That could run into
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a weekend or whatever, but we try to get there as fast as we
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can. All right, sounds good. If our listeners have any questions,
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they want to get in touch. Maybe they've got cobwebs like the Adams family
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in their living room. Maybe they don't want those anymore either, David,
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how's the best way for them to get in touch? Well, you can
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give us a call at one eight hundred nine SIXIX Rose, which is seven
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six seventy three, or you can contact us through our website at rosepsolutions dot
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com. All right, we'll put all of that in the show notes.
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David Pop from Rose Pest Solutions, thanks for being here, you bet,
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thank you Dan. All Right, it's time for a break. But before
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we do that, I just got my spider questions answered, and now I've
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got a plan for dealing with the issue. What are you working on?
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You know, what questions do you have at your house? Email those questions
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to radio at repco Light dot com and if I use yours on the air,
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I'll send you a gift certificate for fifty bucks. All right, let's
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take a break, and when we come back, we're talking about superheroes and
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they're Butler's stay right there. Well, I got five kids, and you
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know I possess the size and the maturity level of a child myself. And
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one of my favorite things in the whole wide world is talking about superheroes.
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You're listening to the Repcolite Home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore, And yeah,
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superheroes. I have loved superheroes since I was a kid, and the
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idea of superheroes colors the way I look at life. You know, I
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talk about my own superpowers all the time, my superpowers of insight and my
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ability to read a situation. If you knew me at all, you would
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know that I'm completely oblivious in most situations. So most of the times I
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talk about my superpowers, it's sarcasm. But I still love the idea of
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having superpowers. I also love talking about paint products as superheroes in the paint
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world, and I've done that plenty of times. Now today on the show,
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I want to veer away from that just a little bit and talk about
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the Alfred of the paint world, you know, Batman's butler. And to
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help me do that, I'm by the butler of sales reps and an emphasis
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on the butt. I heard it. I heard it, Kevin Herman from
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Benjamin Moore. Kevin, thanks for being here, Thank you for having me.
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I can't let this go. Though you said you were the same size
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as a child, I am not brain power just size, same size.
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I'm the maturity level and size of a child with the brain power of an
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adult. So it's it's everything in the package, all right. Anyway,
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let's talk about superheroes. We don't have a ton of time on this segment,
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so I want to jump right in now. On the show, you've
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been a part of some of these conversations. Haley and I have talked on
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and on about products like scuff X and Advance and sticks, and we talk
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about these products because they seem to have superpowers. You know, scuff X
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resists scuffing. It's phenomenal, better than anything else we've ever seen. Right,
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it's like remarkable, right advance flows and easy to use. If you
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can't use that, we really shouldn't be painting. So you've got that sticks
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from in Select Benjamin Moore product. Yeah, sticks to every single thing out
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there. It's crazy superpowers. But then there's Regal Select. You know,
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Won't Won't Won't. It's a key Benjamin war product. It's a flagship product.
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It is the biggest seller and over years talked about it on the show.
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I wanted to look up with that. Is it because it's Alfred,
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it's it's Bruce Wayne's butler, or does it have its own superpowers? What's
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the scoop with Regal? You know, I think Alfred's probably the best way
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to go in comparison to make just simply for the dependability standpoint, and that
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he seems to when Robin or Batman in this case, is having some issues.
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Alfred kind of like the wise elder statesman that just comes through and holds
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everything together and gives them correct advice. And Regal is just like that.
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It works every time it's tried. It's a beautiful product. It's incredibly easy
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to apply. The durability is off the charts. It's just a phenomenal go
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to product that I sell most everywhere, very success. So are there things
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that Regal does better than other products? Or is it kind of just always
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there, you know, filling in the gaps. When I would say something,
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if you're looking for a very premium product but you don't want to spend
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the Aura dollars, Regal is a phenomenal product. A lot of the same
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properties. Doesn't go quite as far as per gallon. It's not scrubbable in
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any any color like auras, but that's the only product and where that does
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that period. Regal is just a very very durable product that works no matter
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who uses it. Incredibly easy to apply. Yeah, yeah, you're not
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running into issues. No professionals apply it, homeowners apply it, do it
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yourself. As it's very, very very good product. Now, Repcolite is
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running a sale. That's one of the reasons we wanted to talk about it.
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We're running a sale right now through the end of July thirty percent off
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Kay, fantastic. Thanks for tolerating my conversation about superheroes and all of that.
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No problem, Thanks Dan. All right, we'll be back in just
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a minute, and I've got another special guest with me and we'll be talking
23:52
about the Unexpected Red theory. That's all. Just ahead and stick around.
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Well, maybe you've heard of a new color theory that's been circulating the innerwebs.
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This one's called the Unexpected Red theory. You're listening to the Repco Lite
24:08
home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And this unexpected Red theory is something
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that was coined by a TikToker. And since I'm really not an established or
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expert TikToker, I had to go looking for help to talk about this.
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And after drudging around, you know, and I got to the bottom of
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the barrel of all the people, you know, maybe this person no,
24:30
not interested, Maybe this person not interested. Nope, this person can't,
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this person can't. Finally I got to somebody who said yes, and Haley's
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here with us now. Haley, very nice, thanks for joining us.
24:45
I was very excited about that intro. I was very happy to introduce you
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that way. You weren't the body you had fun Dan. You weren't the
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bottom of the barrel. You were the bottom of the barrel. But that's
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because you were the only person in the barrel. I see that I was
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looking in even better, not that you were in a barrel. It's figurative,
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the only choice, So fine, I'll take it anyway. Let's talk
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about this unexpected red theory, the whole idea, you know, let's just
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summarize it very quickly. The idea is this, adding any amount of red
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to a room where it doesn't belong automatically makes that room look more pulled together.
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Right, you know that's the theory in a nutshell. But what's the
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basis behind it? I mean, if we start trusting every single TikToker out
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there, well I think anarchy. Isn't that where that goes? Right?
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We've got to figure out does this even make it fun? Because really I
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could start making claims on the TikTok Well you do, don't you? Well?
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Yeah, but I feel like I know what I'm talking about at least
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there I'm going to start just talking about random stuff. We don't know who
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this person is we don't know this whole theory. Does this make sense?
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Why hasn't it been talked about before? If it's so brilliant? Yeah,
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I think it's really interesting. When I first saw a post about it,
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I was kind of curious, you know, because all they're doing really is
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saying, you know what you describe that adding red to a space automatically improves
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the design of a space, and then they've just got pictures that play right,
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here's all these examples of just this little bit of red in a room,
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and how much better it is because of that. I've seen crime scenes
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where red is added and it didn't improve the look of the space, It
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didn't make it look complete. Well, it probably improved the crime. Well,
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it made the crime scene complete, But well that kitchen just looks right
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now, doesn't it? So dark? Yeah? I don't know how to
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come back from no, I know, but well, the idea is that
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you can say that and then you show a bunch of pictures. But what
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I was trying to say is there are going to be other pictures that can
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demonstrate that maybe that's not the case, right, So is there something behind
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it more than just a few get pictures to make a case for something.
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I started digging into maybe some scientific explanations behind this theory, you know,
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to really give it some chops, because I'm also curious, you know,
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is this really something or is this just a trend right that everyone's kind of
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globbed onto. Well, I think there are a lot of scientific basises for
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why this might be true. Is it basis bases? That doesn't sound right.
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It neither sound right. It's a lot of firm scientific stuff backs this
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up. Yeah. The first one is there's a lot of evolutionary associations with
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the color red right reds impact is going to be traced back to our roots.
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It's very attention grabbing, and that's because it could have signaled danger to
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us, so like right away we're very engaged to the situation. Or it
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could have signaled that there's a ripe fruit available, both of which are very
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attention grabbing in you know, our distant past. Boy, there's a strawberry.
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I'm gonna get my machete out and cut it out. Oh there's blood
27:45
everywhere. My machete must be sharp, right, Both of those would get
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my attention, very attention grabbing color. Yeah, all right, And you
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know, adding it to a space then is very attention grabbing because of these
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evolutionary roots that we have with this color. So what you're getting at there
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is one of the questions I had for down the Road is basically, red
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is important? Is an important part of this? Yeah, it's not just
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any bold color right, exactly the same results. You know, I don't
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think that we're going to have a trend where like now it's the unexpected lime
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green very you know, like because that could very easily be the next thing
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that people are putting out there, the unexpected purple theory. I don't think
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that delete that TikTok post fun of it. That's where I was going.
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I don't think that those would have the same impact. So red is specific,
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and that's one of the reasons. That's a scientific basis exactly. Another
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one, this has you know, some biological ties and probably again tied to
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some of those evolutionary roots. But the color red has like an intrinsic response
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biologically for us. So it actually increases our heart rate, increases our blood
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pressure when we see it, So it puts us on kind of that heightened
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awareness mode. Do you notice that? Do you see red and you just
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notice, Wow, everything's elevated. I feel like Spider Man. Potentially,
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if you're like surrounded in it, maybe you might feel it. But I
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think that whether we feel these things or not, you know, even a
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small amount of that that maybe we're not conscious of still impacts us. Okay,
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all right, So we've got a couple of different things, and I
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think that you know, like I just talked about making us you know,
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in a more heightened state, it's going to raise or heart rate, elevator
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blood pressure. That sounds like maybe a bad thing. I was just gonna
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say, right, that sounds great. Why don't we go over a Dan's
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house. You know, we're gonna sit in the living room and everybody's gonna
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have elevated heart rate, right, Like, either for breath angry, you
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know, an angry response, or it could be a very excited response.
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Like I feel like it really vacillates between those two different emotions. Right.
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Nice to be able to and control which I'll come you get rather than a
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roll of plis. Hopefully, because we're in our homes and we're seeing something
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positive, it's more towards that excited state where we're seeing an elevated heart rate
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rather than like, oh my gosh, that like plant makes me so mad
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because it's red, right, Like, that's not what we're going for here,
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right, And a lot of it is going to be scale. Of
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course, it's going to be scale. They're not talking about throwing no red
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all over the place when it's everywhere, right, it's a little bit.
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So it's just teasing you along, exactly. And I do think that makes
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some sense, you know, in a design where there are a lot of
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just monochromatic colors, which I think a lot of us gravitate towards in design
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because it feels easier to just get tints and shades of one single color,
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you know, whether that's neutrals. I just have a bunch of different shades
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of neutrals or tints of that neutral. I've got white, beige, and
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maybe some brown, like that's my color palette. Like, ultimately, that's
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very mono chromatic. And the same is true if we use blue. If
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we have blue in a room and it's navy on the walls, and then
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we've got oh these you know, lighter blue and white accent colors, those
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are it's a very monochromatic color scheme, and that really doesn't do a whole
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lot to engage us with a space. And actually studies have shown that monochromatic
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spaces can be slightly stressful to us because there's not enough variation for us to
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be engaged in the space. It doesn't find that's so hard to believe because
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I work in an entirely gray room and I would never say I'm a stressed
31:36
person. So yeah, that makes sense to me. That was sarcasm,
31:41
folks, because I don't know that stress ever leaves. I live in this
31:47
heightened awareness zone, elevated heart rate. I burn bright, but I'm gonna
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burn out quick. So when you find there's a new host for the show,
31:56
you'll know the stress got me. And if i'd have just had little
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pops of red in the room, maybe I would have made it another week
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or two. What it felt a little better. Yeah, yeah, all
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right, well that does make sense. You know. A third reason is
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it does have an emotional response to us, not just you know, angry
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or excited, but red is also associated with passion, with warmth, with
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Santa Santa it is. Don't laugh about that. Those are all positive things.
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So it's really it's a nice color to have in a space when you're
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designing around you know, being social, being intimate, like those are all
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warm, nice feelings to have, and red is going to give you that,
32:36
all right. So I don't know how many other scientific facts you have
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for us. I do want to ask a question about the red. You
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know, normally when we talk on the show, we'll talk about what you
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need to bring, you know, maybe bring red in. But we'll say
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then we'll come back and say, well, red can be a pink,
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it can be kind of a terra cotta color, right, it's just got
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to have a little bit of that, you know, the hue to it
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to some stunt. Right, is that the case here? Or does it
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need to be a pretty bright, fire enginey kind of a red. I
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don't think pink counts here. I don't. Yeah, I don't think that's
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going to have the same visual impact. Okay, stop for a second.
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And more importantly, was that a dumb question? No? Okay, now,
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go ahead. Wanted to clarify, not a dumb question. Would you
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say it was a brilliant question? I think it was a good question.
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Okay, Well I'm not going to go like so far, Okay, all
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right, all right, I won't interrupt anymore, So pink doesn't count.
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Why, It's just not going to have that same response that we're looking for.
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You know, I think the reason that this unexpected red theory is successful
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is because of the responses that we have on an emotional level, a physiological
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level, and an evolutionary level that makes this true. And I pink is
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not necessarily associated with those same things that it is some of those oranger colors
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that could kind of lean Yeah, I think that is as long as it's
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a really strong hue still and we're not looking at like a pastel version of
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that, I think it still counts still, Like it could be a very
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strong brick color that would give you a similar sort of effect on a room.
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And ultimately, what I think this does in another you know, kind
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of nice little fact, is that the wavelength of red is something that our
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eyes automatically sort of gravitate to in a room right off the bat, and
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so that is a really easy way to create a focal point in a room,
34:30
because our eyes are always going to look at the thing that is the
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warmest with the most contrast first. So I think that's a lot of what
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makes this work on an interior design level is that you're just creating a really
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easy focal point, and those are often lacking in spaces where you haven't hired
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a professional. Most of us are not really focused on creating focal points.
34:54
Yeah, I got like a living room that has we talk about it all
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the time. I don't even know that I want to repaint the thing because
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it's such fodder for the show. But it's got all these white patches all
35:07
around the upper wall to onto the ceiling where paint is peeled. And I've
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standed it. That's a focal point. Your eye is instantly drawn into that
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room and you ask, Wow, what happened up there? So not all
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focal points are great, I guess. Actually, so, I guess.
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I'm just trying to say it's not always hard to create a focal point,
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and some of us do it even without hiring a designer. That's true,
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and it just comes natural to us. So in the last little bit that
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we got, you didn't know I was going to ask you this, But
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I'm sure you can reel off some things practically. You know a few practical
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applications. How do you see this plan out? Yeah, I think that
35:45
we're really looking for small elements of red, right, So focusing on decorative
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elements, you know, whether it's a lamp or putting a rug that's smaller
35:55
in the space, or even like an accent pillow, some art that has
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read in it, even the frame of the art could be read. Right,
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You're just looking for these smaller pops of color. A vase is another
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good example. Maybe a chair, not like an upholstered one, but just
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a wooden chair that's painted red. That would give you what we're looking for
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here, just a smaller application of the color in a space where there's not
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necessarily a lot of other warm tones grabbing your attention at the same time.
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So it's really about creating that contrast in order to create those focal points in
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the space. And that's what's making us more engaged with our room and why
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this theory is potentially so successful. How tricky do you think it's going to
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be to find the right red, you know, because there's, yeah,
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there's a lot of different reds. I guess, like any time we're talking
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about color, start with those smaller color pellets like the Infinity Collection the Historic
36:52
Collection, those are both going to contain reds that have more depth to them
36:57
than some of the other collections. Where we're really looking at like a true
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fire engine red that might be too jarring. Right, We're like walking a
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fine line here, and you can have a very saturated, bold red without
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it looking somewhat immature, if that makes sense, Like it can still be
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sophisticated. Yeah, I know all about immature. Someday maybe I'll learn about
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sophistication. Doubt that's going to happen. One last question, So I bring
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in red in some painted elements and maybe I've got red in a couple other
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small scale right items. Does this red need to be exactly the same?
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I know I've seen things with blues, for example, where I've brought in
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varying blues. They don't match at all, but they all work really well
37:45
together. Yes, how about this theory? Does it need to be the
37:49
same red all through or can there be slight variation? No? I think
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there can be slight variations, and honestly, you're probably not even going to
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notice it a ton if there is, because most likely and there shouldn't be
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I ams that are grouped together like this, so they're going to be space
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throughout the room in a way where you're not having a direct comparison, so
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it's not crucial that they're the exact same red. Okay, so quick question
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for you, Haley, Yes or no? Do you think I am the
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kind of person that if I did this and I had people over and I
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had different reds, I would make sure they were aware that each of these
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reds? Are you know these aren't actually the same. You probably didn't notice.
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Do you think these are different? I would or would not be that
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person. I know what the answer is. You probably would be that,
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Oh yeah, I'd have that picture frame off the wall. I'd be showing
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it next to the other thing. Yeah, look, these are different.
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I put them together. All right. If you have any questions about this
38:45
or anything with color, make sure you swing through any Repcolite and we've got
38:50
color experts on staff who will walk you through whatever you're working on. Right,
38:53
They'll get you all the advice you need so you can make the right
38:57
decision. All right. That is going to do what the clock is telling
39:00
me. I've got to wrap it up, and I've got to do so
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quickly, so we will do that. If you want to catch this episode
39:06
again, you can find it online. At repco light dot com. Make
39:08
sure you do that, and yeah, whatever you do today makes your paints
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a part of it. Have a great weekend everybody, and I'll see you
39:15
next week. I'm Dan Hansen. Thanks for listening.