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Steve Hilton Wants to Dismantle DMV | LA28 Olympics: Freeways & Road Closures · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handel On Demand from KFI AM 640.
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  Speaker 2: I am Steve.
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  Speaker 1: There are many other Steves. KFI AM 640. Bill Handel.
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  Speaker 3: Hump Day, Wednesday, September 9th. Some of the stories we
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  Speaker 3: are looking at.
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  Speaker 1: There was a sinkhole.
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  Speaker 3: There is a sinkhole in Malibu at the home of
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  Speaker 3: Nicolas Cage. And it looks like the entire world is
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  Speaker 3: falling in.
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  Speaker 1: Big one, too. And also $ 100 a barrel. Oil has
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  Speaker 1: just hit.
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  Speaker 3: Because of what's going on with the Strait of Hormuz
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  Speaker 3: and the.
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  Speaker 1: War with Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Also coming up, a big story here in California is
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  Speaker 3: finally there's a debate between Steve Hilton, who is a Republican,
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  Speaker 3: and Xavier Becerra, who is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat, and for
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  Speaker 3: the governorship. And first of all, let's start with Hilton
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  Speaker 3: is a strong supporter of President Trump, although he's backed
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  Speaker 3: away from the rigged election philosophy. We haven't heard much
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  Speaker 3: about that. I think he said a couple of things saying, nah,
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  Speaker 3: not really. Anyway, other than that, he's a pretty strong
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  Speaker 3: Trump supporter. And so they have agreed, Hilton and Becerra
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  Speaker 3: have agreed to a debate. And we didn't know if
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  Speaker 3: that was going to happen. And here is one of
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  Speaker 3: the promises. Here is a campaign promise that Steve Hilton
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  Speaker 3: has said.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, whenever.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody runs for office, the promises are crazy. It's really
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  Speaker 3: easy to say, this is what I will do. This
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  Speaker 3: is what I will do. Case in point, you've got
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  Speaker 3: the president saying, I will cut prices in half within
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  Speaker 3: the first year. I will tame and tame inflation.
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  Speaker 1: We will not have forever wars.
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  Speaker 3: OK, Joe Biden, we're going to make the rich pay
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  Speaker 3: their fair share. We are going to be there and
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  Speaker 3: as standing by our allies, no matter what. Everybody promises everything.
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  Speaker 3: But Steve Hilton has done a real interesting one. How
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  Speaker 3: about eliminating the DMV?
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  Speaker 1: Getting rid of it.
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  Speaker 3: Which for anybody who's ever stood in line at a
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  Speaker 3: DMV office would not be too much against it. And
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  Speaker 3: here's what he wants to do. He wants to cap
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  Speaker 3: annual registration for vehicles at $ 73 per year. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: it's the average of $ 373. So knock off $ 300 per vehicle.
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  Speaker 3: And he told the Times yesterday, my starting expectation would
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  Speaker 3: be they, talking about the legislature, would be with me
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  Speaker 3: on things to reduce the cost of living.
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  Speaker 1: So let's work together. And he said once that state lawmakers.
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  Speaker 3: Meet with him, he said they will realize he is
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  Speaker 3: not the caricature his critics portray. They will realize he
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  Speaker 3: is not a particularly tribal person I'm just looking at
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  Speaker 3: solving problems and we all agree about the cost of living.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to eliminate the DMV. Problem is that
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  Speaker 3: state legislature has to make that move.
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  Speaker 1: And the problem is, is that.
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  Speaker 3: The state legislature is a super majority democratic legislature who
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  Speaker 3: Steve Hilton has nailed over and over again as a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of buffoons. The Becerra spokesperson said you can't spend
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  Speaker 3: a year calling Democrats a failure and then expect two
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  Speaker 3: thirds of them to take your calls. Steve is in
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  Speaker 3: for a very rude awakening, and I happen to think
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  Speaker 3: that's true. I think any Democrat running for office in California,
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  Speaker 3: especially a Trump supporter this time around, I think that
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  Speaker 3: is a death knell for any Republican who makes that point.
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  Speaker 3: So he was in front of a DMV office in
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  Speaker 3: West Hollywood, and he said, we have to eliminate this agency,
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  Speaker 3: which costs $ 1. 6 billion per year.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is the state gets about $ 11 billion a
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  Speaker 3: year in revenue from the DMV. So if you eliminate, what,
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  Speaker 3: $ 1. 2 billion, well, actually, you'd eliminate $ 11 billion at, bottom line,
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  Speaker 3: $ 10 billion shortfall.
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  Speaker 1: And that is a problem.
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  Speaker 3: How do you make up for that? I mean, $ 10
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  Speaker 3: billion you got to make up for. Oh, and he
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  Speaker 3: also wants to reduce California income tax. Anybody making up
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  Speaker 3: to $ 150, 000 of income would not have to pay California
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  Speaker 3: income tax. So there's another hit. Well, that's certainly going
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  Speaker 3: to bring down prices for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Or will it?
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  Speaker 3: So he wants to reduce the state's workforce by 10%,
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  Speaker 3: all the agency's budget by 5%. And so how is
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  Speaker 3: that going to happen? Well, he points to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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  Speaker 3: When Schwarzenegger, when he was elected governor during the recall
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  Speaker 3: of Gray Davis, the first thing he did was reduce
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  Speaker 3: vehicle registration by two-thirds.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Well, because Gray Davis increased it by three times, by 300%,
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  Speaker 3: to make up for a budget shortfall. And he got
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  Speaker 3: tossed out of office for that, as well as the
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  Speaker 3: energy crisis at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, what a recall that was. The backlash was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: There isn't a backlash like that. So how do you
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  Speaker 3: get 10 pounds in a two pound bag? Well, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to reduce the state budget and he is going
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  Speaker 3: to make it absolutely a balanced budget, which do you
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  Speaker 3: know that we always have a balanced budget in California?
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  Speaker 1: We have to have a balanced budget. That's our constitution.
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  Speaker 1: The U.S. does not have to have a balanced budget.
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  Speaker 1: It never does.
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  Speaker 3: It's happened twice in the last 80 years where there
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  Speaker 3: was a balanced budget. California has to balance the budget,
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  Speaker 3: which is why it's always late, always. And at the
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  Speaker 3: end of it all, they have to borrow money. Now,
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  Speaker 3: some years, there is a real influx. There is a
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  Speaker 3: real surplus of which never happens with the feds.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that?
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  Speaker 3: Because California has this underlying economy that is a juggernaut.
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  Speaker 3: And the wealthy people are getting incredibly wealthy and they
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  Speaker 3: live in California and wages among the wage earners that
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  Speaker 3: make a lot of money, state income tax. But on
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  Speaker 3: the other hand, we have a volatile state budget here.
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  Speaker 3: volatile income stream. Because when the economy does well, money
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  Speaker 3: pours into California. And when the economy is horrible, the
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  Speaker 3: money is restricted like a garden hose, a valve on
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  Speaker 3: a garden hose. Very few other states rely on income
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  Speaker 3: tax like California does for its main budget revenue. So
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  Speaker 3: the bottom line is Hilton proposing the DMV be eliminated.
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  Speaker 3: And how do you make up for.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of it? Well, the reality is, is to cut.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, can it be done? Sure.
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  Speaker 3: To wipe out entitlement programs, social programs. And you think
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  Speaker 3: that's going to happen in California? You think that's ever
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  Speaker 3: going to happen? And how are those programs paid for? Well,
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  Speaker 3: by tax dollars. And if you go to any cemetery
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  Speaker 3: where there was a California legislator who was buried on
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  Speaker 3: the tombstone will read, I never met a tax I
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  Speaker 3: didn't like. Okay, the Olympics are coming, as you know,
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  Speaker 3: in 2028. And one of the things about the Olympics
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  Speaker 3: is going to the venues, going from A to B.
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  Speaker 3: And since we don't have a particularly good transportation, public
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  Speaker 3: transportation system, which means people will be driving. So how
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  Speaker 3: is the Olympic Committee, as well as the municipalities, going
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  Speaker 3: to deal with this? Well, LA freeways and roads are
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  Speaker 3: going to be closed to general traffic for the Olympics.
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  Speaker 3: And how is it going to hit your commute? Well,
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  Speaker 3: the only way you're going to be able to save
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  Speaker 3: your asses is to have no commute. Because when you
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  Speaker 3: look at, first of all, the agencies, the transit agencies
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  Speaker 3: are bracing for 10 to 15 million spectators. So they're
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  Speaker 3: putting together a million extra metro transit trips. And now,
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  Speaker 3: the only way you're going to be able to go
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  Speaker 3: through the special permitted areas, freeways and streets, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about 236 miles of carpool lanes going to disappear,
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  Speaker 3: about 134 miles along local streets.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have freeways.
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  Speaker 3: And I have a list of the freeways here that
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  Speaker 3: are going to be closed today. But the list goes
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  Speaker 3: for two pages, the 5, the 91, the 405, the 105,
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  Speaker 3: the 110, the 101, the 10, the 210, also the 1,
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  Speaker 3: the 2, 47, 134, 164, Orange County, 5, 55, 57, 73, 91, 405.
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  Speaker 3: And they are going to be restricted, which means if
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  Speaker 3: you don't have a ticket. You are not an athlete
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  Speaker 3: or somehow connected to the game. You are the games.
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  Speaker 3: You are not going to be able to go to
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  Speaker 3: these unrestricted streets. Or you're not going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to go on the restricted streets. Now, we go back
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  Speaker 3: to 1984. And everybody was so apprehensive. I actually went
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  Speaker 3: to Australia during the 84 Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: I had some.
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  Speaker 3: Business that I had to do down there in the medical,
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  Speaker 3: the surrogacy world. And so I decided I made the
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  Speaker 3: arrangements to go during the Olympics in 1984. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to miss the traffic.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, goodness. You guys will be in the traffic. You
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  Speaker 1: guys deal with it.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm watching the event on TV, the events, and
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  Speaker 3: LA was a ghost town.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was on the street.
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  Speaker 3: You could have taken, you could have basically played a
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  Speaker 3: game of, we could have gone bowling on the 405
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  Speaker 3: freeway during rush hour because there weren't, there wasn't any
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  Speaker 3: rush hour.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they're going to say this one's a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we have venues, what, some 40 venues throughout
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  Speaker 3: Southern California, all over town, UCLA. You know how bad
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  Speaker 3: UCLA is anyway, the 405, as you go up near
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  Speaker 3: UCLA on both sides of it, north and south? Well,
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  Speaker 3: the UCLA campus is going to house all the athletes.
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  Speaker 3: There are tens of thousands of athletes. Plus, you've got
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  Speaker 3: their trainers, you have the support staff. You have the
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  Speaker 3: executives because you can bet every Olympic committee, no one
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  Speaker 3: in the Olympic committee, local committee is going to miss
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  Speaker 3: these games. So it's going to be a complete zoo
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  Speaker 3: and they haven't even figured out, you know, they're still
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of planning this thing. The regional authorities
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  Speaker 3: are figuring this out. You've got, for example, the LA transit,
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  Speaker 3: the folks that run the streets, the, Bureau of Streets
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  Speaker 3: in L.A. dealing with the interstate system, dealing with the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So the cities and local transportation agencies, as well as
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  Speaker 3: the Olympics, as well as the various authorities of the
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  Speaker 3: county and the state, well, and the feds, too, because
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  Speaker 3: a lot of this is the federal interstate system. They're
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  Speaker 3: going to adopt changes they say will keep the Olympics
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  Speaker 3: from disrupting daily commutes.
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  Speaker 1: And it's true.
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  Speaker 3: It will be able to stop the daily commutes being
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  Speaker 3: disrupted because there will be no daily commutes.
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  Speaker 1: And the argument is, and it's a good argument, stay home.
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  Speaker 3: Asking employers to do things like let people work at home.
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  Speaker 3: How about giving everybody vacation at that time? Business is
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  Speaker 3: going to be impossible to deal with anyway. And do
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  Speaker 3: we know how many people are going to be watching
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  Speaker 3: the Olympics this time around?
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  Speaker 1: Amy, do we have any prospective numbers? Have we heard anything?
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  Speaker 1: Of how many people are going.
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  Speaker 3: To watch the Olympics? Yeah, watching or coming or attending.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we've received any stats yet. other than
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  Speaker 3: they figure 10 to 15 million, 10 to 15 million
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  Speaker 3: people are going to show up.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean? 10 to 15 million.
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  Speaker 3: People, you know, what their margin of error is plus
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  Speaker 3: or minus 5 million.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And 5 billion people are expected to watch around
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  Speaker 1: the world. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's a, that's a big game. Oh, those commercials are
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  Speaker 3: going to go for some money too. Some big money.
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  Speaker 3: And there'll be signage all over the place. You know,
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  Speaker 3: on the freeway, what I really enjoy, um, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why they don't do it more and more. The
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  Speaker 3: on-ramp on the freeways, some agencies or some cities actually
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  Speaker 3: paint on the ground. For example, San Diego, northbound, southbound,
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  Speaker 3: the lanes that lead you onto the freeway as well
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  Speaker 3: as the signs, they paint those on the ground. I
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  Speaker 3: think you're going to be seeing a lot of that
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  Speaker 3: from sponsors. This lane brought to you by Coca-Cola because they.
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  Speaker 1: Are– All the buildings have signs on them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Peter Uberoth, who was the 84 head of the L.A.
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  Speaker 3: Olympic Committee, he's really the one that created that kind
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  Speaker 3: of sponsorship. I mean, which is why the L.A. Olympics
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  Speaker 3: of 1984 made money. It was actually profitable and it
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  Speaker 3: is unheard of for a city to make money.
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  Speaker 1: They should make it based on L.A. itself.
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  Speaker 2: So like instead of just pole vaulting, it would be
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  Speaker 2: pole vaulting over, you know, encampments. And it would be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, instead of like big lead balls, they would
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  Speaker 2: be tossing human feces and be all themed to L.A.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Why not? OK.
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  Speaker 3: The fight between President Trump and the state of California
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  Speaker 3: continues on. I mean, it seems that every turn. The
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  Speaker 3: fight is getting more, I.
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  Speaker 1: Guess, getting stronger and stronger, more involved.
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  Speaker 3: And not only is it entitlement programs, but there's something
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  Speaker 3: going on with the EVs. That's electric vehicles here in California. California,
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  Speaker 3: big fan of electric vehicles. We buy more, not only
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  Speaker 3: per capita, but in sheer numbers than any other state
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  Speaker 3: in the United States. other than Washington, D.C., and Hawaii
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  Speaker 3: actually buys more than we do, but in terms of
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  Speaker 3: per capita. But what's happening with the president is he's
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  Speaker 3: moving to strip California's emissions authority. I mean, he wants
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  Speaker 3: to just take down California's ability to deal with emissions
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  Speaker 3: from cars and tax credits, which he has already done,
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  Speaker 3: erase electric vehicle sales mandates within the state. and basically
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  Speaker 3: reshaping the national market. Now, one of the things about
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  Speaker 3: the president is not only is he not a fan
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  Speaker 3: of alternative energy and electric vehicles.
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  Speaker 1: He is moving aggressively to stop them.
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  Speaker 3: He is not only a big fan of fossil fuels,
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  Speaker 3: which clearly he is, drill, baby, drill, as he was
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  Speaker 3: running for office, but he's also taken the opposite side
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  Speaker 3: of the entire alternative energy field, including EVs, and working
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  Speaker 3: as hard as he can to basically kill the industry, which,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't get. I mean, there is certainly
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  Speaker 3: the fossil fuel industry, the oil and gas industry isn't
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  Speaker 3: doing what it can to kill the alternative energy, not
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  Speaker 3: just promote itself and saying, hey, we're better than, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we are the wave of the future. Hey, this is
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  Speaker 3: cheaper for you for whatever sales or whatever argument they
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  Speaker 3: can make. They are not trying to kill the entire
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  Speaker 3: industry themselves. of the electric vehicles, as well as alternative energy.
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  Speaker 3: The president is, well, he shut down. There was a,
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  Speaker 3: I think it was a wind farm outside of New Jersey,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, that was 90% done out in
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  Speaker 3: the ocean. 90% done.
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  Speaker 1: He shut it down. Just shut it down. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: We're done.
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  Speaker 3: And it would have cost a fraction to finish it up.
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  Speaker 3: And he was able to, because it was in U.S.
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  Speaker 3: waters and the federal government controls U.S. waters, the waters
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  Speaker 3: off the states. And so, you know, what do you
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  Speaker 3: do with that? So let me tell you what's going
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  Speaker 3: on with the fight between President Trump and California. Even
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  Speaker 3: with everything that the president is doing, he's reshaping the
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  Speaker 3: entire market or trying to. California, our adoption of electric
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  Speaker 3: vehicles just keeps on climbing.
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  Speaker 1: Nearly one in six new cars are fully electric.
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  Speaker 3: And used sales cars, used EV sales car numbers are
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  Speaker 3: going through the roof. A lot of it has to
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: do with cost of gasoline, of course. And all the
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: lost federal rebates, because as soon as the president came in,
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  Speaker 3: those federal rebates, chow baby, gone. And so you have
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  Speaker 3: the state now, they're replacing that with state incentives. And
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  Speaker 3: there is more emphasis on, And more money being poured
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  Speaker 3: into public chargers. Do you know why we have more
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  Speaker 3: public chargers than gas pumps in the United States?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: What's happening with EVs, electric vehicles in California? And that's
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  Speaker 3: not only upswing, although they've gone down a bit, but
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  Speaker 3: they're coming back. Every time gas goes through the roof,
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  Speaker 3: which is gasoline, is climbing literally by the day.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of cents here, a couple of cents there.
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  Speaker 1: What happens?
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  Speaker 3: EV sales take off and used EV sales take off.
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  Speaker 3: And so what the president is doing is make a
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  Speaker 3: concerted effort. He has made it really clear he does
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  Speaker 3: not like alternative energy. He does not like electric vehicles.
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  Speaker 3: He wants to do away with all of them. So
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  Speaker 3: how does he do that? Well, start with eliminating the
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  Speaker 3: federal tax credit.
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  Speaker 1: Which was around.
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  Speaker 3: Now, California is trying to undo that by giving its
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  Speaker 3: own tax credits, trying to somehow replace those. He also
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  Speaker 3: did something rather clever, and that's repeal the basic finding
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  Speaker 3: that greenhouse gases are dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, big deal.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the problem is the Clean Air Act bases its, well,
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  Speaker 3: the legal basis for regulating vehicle emissions is Is this
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  Speaker 3: premise that gases are dangerous? And he said, no, they're not.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore, you don't have a legal basis for even
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  Speaker 3: having the Clean Air Act.
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  Speaker 1: Boom, lawsuit.
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  Speaker 3: Now, but California has its own standard. Do you know
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  Speaker 3: the federal government has allowed California to have its own
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  Speaker 3: standards since the 1960s? California can make the emission standard
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  Speaker 3: more strict than the rest of the nation. which we've
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  Speaker 3: always had, I mean, for the last, what, 80 years,
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  Speaker 3: 50 years, 60 years? Well, he's taken that away. So
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  Speaker 3: now it's going to be a federal mandate. The state
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  Speaker 3: will not be able to bring in stricter guidelines for
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  Speaker 3: emissions from vehicles. which blows open California's control on this.
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  Speaker 3: And also, whatever, and they're trying to undo, and I
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  Speaker 3: think the state is also, the government, the federal government
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: has tried to undo the premise that is Governor Newsom's
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  Speaker 3: promise that by 2045, California is going to be revenue.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be neutral in terms of its ability
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  Speaker 3: to create emissions. In other words, we're not going to
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: have any emissions. It's going to be completely neutral. We're
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: not going to cause any. We're not going to use any.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: And how do you do that? Well, you can't do
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: it without EV sales. You can't do it without electric vehicles.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: You also can't do it without nuclear power, but that's
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: another issue.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Doesn't most of our electricity come from oil anyways? About 70%.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Natural gas?
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  Speaker 3: 70%. 30% comes from— Okay, so the vast majority of
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: our electricity— But it's moving like lightning speed. You know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: one of the— for example, California, you build a new— let' s say
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: you're building a new community, right? You're building— you' re putting up
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: 50 homes, 100 homes. Do you know that you have
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: to put solar power in each of those homes by law?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: You cannot build a new home without putting in solar power.
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  Speaker 1: But we have a butt ton of byproduct, too, that
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: is used in clothing, in tires, in the streets.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing compared to the emissions that the auto industry and
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the vehicle industry causes. 50% of the emissions in this
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: state are caused by cars and trucks. 50%. And so
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: they're trying to undo that. And the president says, no, no,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we want fossil fuels, which, as I said, I find
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: it fascinating that while he is pushing fossil fuels, the.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Oil and gas industry, I get that. I understand where
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you're going with that.
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  Speaker 3: But he is trying to undo completely, and I don't
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: understand where he's going with this, all of the alternative fuels.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Here's what he said, which floors me. And he said, if.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: We get rid of EVs, That means that the public
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: will have better choice among regular cars, internal combustion cars.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: So they'll have a better choice.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: You get rid of electric cars, then the people have
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: a better choice with no cars, no electric cars.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, where's that? Am I missing something there?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Gee, wouldn't you like a choice between EVs and internal
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: combustion cars?
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I would. Which way did you go? I went EV,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and then I went the other way. Yeah, because once
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you go gas, you never go back, baby. Yeah, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: here's why I did that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Two reasons, and I'm going to go back to the
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: chargers and finish it up, not the LA chargers. I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: talking about the charging stations.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Car chargers.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And one is the reason I got away from my
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: electric vehicles is I had range anxiety that I couldn't undo.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just couldn't get away from range anxiety.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: and no matter what, it was just killing me. I'd
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: looked at my mileage.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: We have more chargers than we have gas. I can't
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: believe that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, so now goes, assuming that's true, by the way,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and I'm not going to doubt that, but assuming that's true,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: that is a false number because how many superchargers do
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: we have? Public chargers that are not superchargers, I don't
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: view as charging. Who goes to a public charger and
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: sits there for six hours or eight hours charging your car?
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I think they're counting your home plugs. No, we're talking
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: about public chargers. Oh, no, no, no, no.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: When I say public chargers, that's excluding home chargers, and
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: that's excluding chargers that are in office buildings or gated
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: communities or any of that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: We're talking public chargers.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: The story is, and I've heard this before, this is
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: out of the LA Times, but it's just me reporting
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that there are more of those charging stations in than
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: there are gas pumps. The problem is, let's say you
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: have a charging station that has eight or 10 little,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: you know, different chargers. They are part of this, the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: entire station. Well, out of 10, two will be superchargers.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Eight will be regular chargers. And regular chargers do nothing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: It worked for me at home because I plug it
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: in at night and six hours later, I have a
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: full charge.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: What good does that do out in public? So until, they.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Shouldn't even allow charging stations that aren't all superchargers.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: But those suck up a lot of energy too.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: And that comes from our power plants, which comes from
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: natural gas.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Although the difference is huge.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: A lot less natural gas is used to power a car,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: an EV, if you look at the actual statistics. So anyway, it's,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the president is trying to eliminate EVs in California.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Just done. We want them out. And it takes forever.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: So the point is, is that the car manufacturers are
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: now moving over to internal combustion. They're getting rid of
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: all their EV models or a lot of them. But
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: it takes years to figure this out. So they're guessing
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen with the next administration that's going
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: to go the other way than Donald Trump.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Let's take a break. We'll come back.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: And college degrees. I've talked about this. Go out and
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: get a college degree and you'll do well. Not. Not.
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