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THE KEY TO SUCCESS IN THE NEW WORLD THE RIGHT MINDSET · INSPIRE STORY

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Speaker 1: We're on the verge of connecting our brains with the cloud.
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And just like our cell phones, do a limited amount
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of computing on the phones, and the majority of the
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hard work goes from the phone to the edge of
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the cloud and then the answer gets calculated there, it
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comes back to the phone. If I connect with you
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through the cloud and know your thoughts so intimately, it
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is an extraordinarily different world we live in where eight
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billion people are connected at a level of empathy like
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never before.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one
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health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every
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single one of you who come back every single week
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to listen, learn and grow.
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Speaker 3: Now this week is like no other.
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Speaker 2: You know that my job and my purpose in life
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is to find and connect with incredible thinkers who can
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help shape our futures, who can help us make better.
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Speaker 3: Decisions, who can bring us insights and inspiration in ways
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that we don't always think about.
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Speaker 2: And today's guest is someone that I followed for a
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very long time, read a ton of his work, and
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I feel really grateful to be speaking with the one
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and only Peter Diamandis now. He was recently named by
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Fortune as one of the world's fifty Greatest Leaders now.
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Peter Diamandis is the founder and executive chairman of the
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ex Prize Foundation, which leads the world in designing and
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operating large scale incentive competitions. He's also the executive founder
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of the Singularity University. You know that I talk about
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the book Exponential Organizations a lot and a graduate level
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Silicon Valley institution that counsels the world's leaders on.
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Speaker 3: Exponentially growing technologies.
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Speaker 2: As an entrepreneur, Deamandis has started over twenty companies in
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the areas of longevity, space, venture capital, and education. He's
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the co founder of Bold Capital Partners, a venture funder
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with two hundred and fifty million dollars investing in the
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exponential technologies, and the co founder and vice chairman of Cellularity, Inc.
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Speaker 3: A cellular therapeutics company.
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Speaker 2: He ened degrees in molecular genetics and aerospace engineering from
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MIT and holds an MD from Harvard Medical School. Peter
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Dermander's favorite saying is the best way to predict the
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future is to create it yourself.
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Speaker 3: And my favorite quote from.
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Speaker 2: Him is this one that I have shared tons of
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times in videos and speeches, quoting him of how if
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you want to redefine the billionaire, it's how someone can
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help a billion people. That is the real definition of
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a billionaire. So Peter, thank you so much for doing this.
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And today we're talking about his new book, The Future
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is Faster than you think, how converging technologies are transforming business,
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industries and our lives. We have put the link in
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the podcast section, in the comments and everywhere across our buyers,
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so you can go and grab a copy of the
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book as you listen to our interview today.
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Speaker 3: Pizza, thank you so much for being here.
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Speaker 1: Pleasure Jake, and thank you for interview. I'll have to
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have my mom listen to it so that she can
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appreciate my bio.
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Speaker 2: That's a really fascinating place to start that you said that, like,
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my mom is so sweet. She has my bedroom that
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I grew up with in my home back in London.
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Feel the same way, and any time I do anything
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that she's impressed by, she'll like put up a picture
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or fana in the room.
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Speaker 1: Same, the same, same, And I'm so grateful for, you know,
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having such a beautiful, supportive, loving, loving mom. And I
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you know it was I grew up from a family
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of doctors. Both my parents were immigrants from the island
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Lesbos and Greece, and it was always expected I'd become
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a doctor. And it was so like, you know, I
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told my mom when I was about age nine or ten,
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that was going to become an astronaut, and she said,
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that's nice, son, but you can become a doctor like
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I was like mom, and so there was always this expectation,
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and she wanted that for the best of me, right.
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She knew that that was a great profession. My father
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was a physician, she should have been, could have been,
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and and she's extraordinarily supportive. But you know, I remember
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years after I finished medical school, when I was running
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my companies, she would like, every once in a while,
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ask is there any chance you might go back and
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practice medicine. That's not gonna happen, but I guess my
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longevity and healthcare companies right now are sort of a
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practice of medicine.
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Speaker 2: Literally, did you enjoy medical school? I heard you find
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it kind of tough.
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Speaker 1: I was really lucky that the medical school I got
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into was hard to get into and really harder to
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fail out of. I was running two companies my last
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year of medical school, and it was a it was
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a situation that was much more akin to how can
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I say, getting through medical school to graduate the purpose
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of making my family happy, not necessarily because it was
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like the most important thing in my life and a
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lot of things that I spend time on right now.
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And I think you know you and I share this
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in common, is helping people discover their purpose, right because
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my purpose wasn't medical school back then. It was opening
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up the space frontier. It was helping humanity become a
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multiplanetary species. And I watch and I realize how critically
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important finding what Salem, my partner at s U, talk
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about helping people find their massively transformative purpose. And there's
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a great quote that I love, Mark Twain said, there
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are two important days in your life, the day that
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you were born and the day that you found out why.
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And so that's super cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually wanted to share with you.
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Speaker 2: So I was very fortunate when I was at Accenture
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they would invite Selim to speak fairly often. I'm sure
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you've spoken there too, But when I was there, I
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remember in coming and that's when I got exposed to
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exponential organizations and MTP and it was MTP that actually
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helped me find my MTP, which was making wisdom go viral,
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and that actually came from studying MTP in the book,
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and it was it's been very very deeply connected with
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how I kind of found articulation of my journey.
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Speaker 3: So share us share a bit.
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Speaker 2: About that MTP because I feel like so many people
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are looking for their purpose, and they're looking for their passion,
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and they're looking for their calling. But MTP really nicely
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defines that I feel in quite a unique way.
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Speaker 3: Just just let's let's just start there before.
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Speaker 1: We got so. I think, you know, Jay, I think
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that there is nothing more important than finding a person's purpose,
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an individual's mindset, right. It's like your mindset is everything
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your mindset of for me, and the mindsets that I
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teach are an abundance mindset, an exponential mindset, a gratitude mindset,
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a purpose driven mindset, a solution driven mindset, because how
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your mind thinks and processes information ultimately is the most
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important thing. You take away all of the wealth that
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Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, whomever you want has,
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and you leave their mindset with them, they will reaccumulate
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that wealth, they will create a major impact on the
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planet with that. So mindset is first and foremost critical
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when I talk about a massly transformative purpose, I think
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about this as first and foremost, what is the impact
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you want to leave on the planet, not necessarily what
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makes you happy? What do you want to do? What
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is it that is the purpose of your life? And
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I think about your MTP as the canvas upon which
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you're going to paint, and your MTP for me, my
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MTP was making humanity multiplanetary species, opening the space frontier.
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That was my first one. And I'm very clear with
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individuals you don't have to have just one in your life.
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It doesn't have to last you your entire life. It
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doesn't have to be perfect. You can change it tomorrow,
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you can change it next month. It's important for you
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to try one on. And so for my first thirty
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years thirty five years, it really was opening up the
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space frontier, and from that was born a multitude of
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companies and projects, and then from there, you know, the
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X Prize was born, which was a ten million dollar
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prize for private spaceflight, and I got very enamored as
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a result of that, X Prize. It was the unsorry
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X Prize was won by Bert Rutan, funded by Paul Allen.
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Now it's commercialized by Richard Branson. But I became enamored
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with the day that we can, in fact, as individuals
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solve the world's biggest problems. There is no problem that
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cannot be solved, period. And it might be hard, it
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may take a decade, it may require technology needs to
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be invented. Still, but I'm clear about that's what we
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as humans do, that's what we as entrepreneurs do. And
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so my second MTP was really focused on solving the
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world's grand challenges, and out of that came X Prize
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Foundation and Singularity University. So since then my mtps have
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gone a few different ways, the two, and you know,
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I accumulate them right one MTP that I spent all
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my life. I still care about openness, space frontier, I
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still care about grand challenges. But then I've become very
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enamored of late with really extending the healthy human lifespan.
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How do I add ten twenty thirty healthy years in
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a person's life to make one hundred years old? The
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U six and then inspiring and guiding entrepreneurs. So the
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MPTP is your canvas, and then I think about your
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moonshots as sort of targets on that canvas that you
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you'll go after. And I've just you know, I found
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too many smart people who honestly aren't sure what your
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passion is. There were hard working, they're super smart, but
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they're not driven by a passion. And and that when
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I say the word driven, you know, your MPTP has
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to connect with a deep emotional energy. And that emotional
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energy the fuel your MTP. And it can come from
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it can come from awe like amazement of space. It
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can come from fear, it can come from being pissed
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off of an inequality. It can be you know, come
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from a sense of just deep seated child to a
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desire to create something. But there's got to be an
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energy level there because doing anything big and bold, any
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moonshot you take is ultimately going to be hard. And sometimes,
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as I like to joke, their overnight success is after
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eleven years of hard work. And so at three o'clock
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in the morning, you know, making another dollar is not
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going to fuel you. It's going to be making a
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difference in the world, making a you know, to use
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Steve Jobs's phrase, making a dent in the universe.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And one of the things that I love that you
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said there was around You've got to try it on.
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And the reason why I love that is because we
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don't even buy a piece of clothing without trying it on.
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We don't place a pizza of furniture in our home
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without positioning it and trying it.
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Speaker 3: And it's funny that when it comes to passions.
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Speaker 2: And purposes, we're trying to figure it all down on paper,
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but we rarely try it on, like physically, just put
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it on and go, how do I look in this?
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Speaker 3: How do I feel in this? Does it fit? Does
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this need to be adjusted? You know?
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Speaker 2: And it's like that's the same mental process that it
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takes to find your passion and find your purpose.
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Speaker 3: You've got to try it on and you said that.
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Speaker 2: I love that, So thank you for sharing that very
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very very subtle, but powerful advice on how to think
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about our purpose and our passion. And I really want
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to dive into the future with you today because what
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I love doing is, you know, you're fascinated by certain things,
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and I want to follow your fascinations so that we
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can unravel it for my community today.
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Speaker 3: And I guess the biggest question this was a I
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used to live in.
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Speaker 2: New York City, and about two years ago I was
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I did this little, mini, just quick social experiment. I
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went out on the streets of New York and I
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stopped people at Madison Square Garden and Times Square and
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Madison Square Park, and I would just go up to
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people be like, what are you most scared of? Like
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what are you most worried about? And I literally got
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three answers. The number one answer was the future, right people, like,
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I worry about the future. Another top on was money,
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I worry about money. And the third one was like
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I worried about my kids. And it's funny because all
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three of them are so aligned, Like, you worry about
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the future, but you also worry about how much money
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you love in the future, and you worry about your
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kid's future right now. When the future is faster than
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we think, what is it about the future that we.
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Speaker 3: Fear so much? And when we now when we're.
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Speaker 2: Listening to you, you're like, the future is actually even
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faster than you think. Should people be more worried or
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is that like a wake up caller?
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Speaker 3: An alarm.
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Speaker 1: It was about eight or nine years ago. I just
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published my first book called Abundance. The Future is Better
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Than You Think, and it was a magical moment for
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me and I it was something that came from my
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heart and my soul. And I remember sitting down with
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a gentleman by named Dan Sullivan, who's one of my coaches,
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and he said, you know, Peter, most people fear the future.
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Do you know that? And I said no, And he says, well,
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they do, why don't you? And I said, well, I
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guess I don't feel the future because I have a
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good sense of what's coming and I'm excited about how
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it's going to empower me to make my dreams come true.
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And I realize that most people are fearful about the
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future because they don't know what's coming and they don't
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have a sense of what is possible. And it's of course,
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you know, there is a validity in as things are
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changing faster and faster, your ability to predict what's coming
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out years in the future. It becomes harder and harder,
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but there's a reasonable ability to predict what we're going
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to see in the next decade. And in fact, that book,
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which came out in January does a damn good job
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at outlining what's expectable in computation, sensors, networks, AI robotics,
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three D printing, synthetic biology, augmented virtual reality, blockchain, and
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the implications that those technologies will have on the industries
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we live in, the retail, health, education, finance, insurance, you know,
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name all, real estate. There are going to be some
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definitive changes coming. When exactly they come, how fast do
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they come? You know, there's some variability, but we can
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be clear. We're going to have autonomous cars, We're going
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to have flying cars, We're going to have hyper loop
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like services. We're going to see higher and higher quality
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five G with VR NAR transform how we interact with
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ourselves in our environment, and all of these things are
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going to change every single industry. So I focus on that.
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I teach that, I write about that, I blog about that,
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and I start companies based on that prediction. But ultimately
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my job is for people to get excited about the future.
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So what I say is, listen, there's no on off switch,
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which there's not a way of like slowing it down
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or turning off the progress. We have faster and faster
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computers being used to build faster and faster computers, more
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and more people around the world, with access to all
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the world's knowledge, more computational power, and more electricity and
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so forth. It is accelerating the speed at which, in fact,
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one of the early chapters in this chapter three in
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the book is called the acceleration of the acceleration, which
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is the notion that the rate at which technology is
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accelerating is it self accelerating. It is becoming cheaper. And
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you can become scared by that, or all of a
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sudden you can flip the model and be like totally
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empowered by that and saying, that's awesome. My ability to
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do stuff is going to be extraordinary, And in fact
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it really is extraordinary. None of us truly understand how
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powerful we are right to change the world. Every one
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of us on our digital devices of access to more
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knowledge in the world, and presidents and countries had twenty
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years ago. We have access to more computational power, more
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access to you know, name it, picket. We're demonetizing, making
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cheaper and effectively free, and democratizing, making available to everybody
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all of these things. So what do you do with it?
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This goes back to the original question of once you'r MTP,
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if you've got all this power, which we do, what
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will you do with it? What impact will you leave
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on the planet.
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Speaker 2: And that's a really powerful way to look at it.
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It's you know, you're spot on that when you see
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all this access. But we also know that humans, ah,
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you know, humans make bad choices when they have choice.
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You know, we also know that when you look at
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the studies around you know, I think, what's that famous
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study that they did with like the jam jars and
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like the supermarket store, and you know, when humans have more,
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more choice and more information, the majority of us are
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not good at processing all of that and therefore we
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find it overwhelming, right, and we get overwhelmed, we feel pressurized,
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and then we tend to make bad decisions. Then you
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say it in your own word, you say, we haven't
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had a hardware upgrade in our brain in over two
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hundred thousand years. You know, do you think that what
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part of our brain has not upgraded and kept with
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the advancing and technology that we've created, and what part
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of it's faulty or needs to be adapted out.
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Speaker 1: So the challenge is that our brains are limited. As
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beautiful as they are and as brilliant as they are
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and what they've created, our ability to process the information
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that comes into our senses is very limited. Our eyes, ears, touch,
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all of our senses are getting probably thousands of times
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more data than we can process. And so over the
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course of millennia, it's not just for humans, it's for
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all animals. We've created what we call cognitive cognitive biases.
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And these cognitive biases come from the ability of the
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brain to use shortcuts and so, for example, there is
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a recency bias. If you've heard a whole bunch of data,
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the data that you heard at the end before you
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make your decision, the most recent data is got higher
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impact to you than the original data. There's a negativity bias.
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We pay ten times more attention to negative use and
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positive use, which is why all of the news on
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TV is so bloody negative. Don't watch the news, I
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don't we can get to that conversation. There's a familiarity bias.
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We're tending to credit people who look more like us
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or are more familiar from our own tribes, so to speak.
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And there's all these biases, and these biases were made
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up to enable you to deal with a massive amount
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of information in the most efficient fashion, and the amount
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of information impacting us is exploding. It's not getting it's
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not getting less when when you look.
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Speaker 2: At it from that perspective, it's uh. And by the way,
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I agree with you, and I'm glad you brought up
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the biases. I actually recorded a podcast a couple of
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weeks ago. It's one of my one of my solo episodes,
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which is all about I picked ten of them.
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Speaker 3: I know there are tons, but I pick ten of
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the biases.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's but it's interesting that that's actually done
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to protect us. But now through technology, we're allowing ourselves
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to extend our reach and our understanding. I mean, you've
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got two eight year old boys. Uh, And it's like
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I wonder as a father. I'm not a parent yet,
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but I always find that when people are parents and
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you have two eight year old sons, that you're worry
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bias and your like security bias changes.
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Speaker 3: And that's what I hear at least, And so I'm fascinated.
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Speaker 2: To hear about what you're excited about for their future
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and what you're wary about for their future.
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Speaker 1: As well, yeah, I'll updated. They just turned nine last weekend,
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so they're half way to halfway to eighteen fraternal twins.
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I think about that. I am so digital in my nature,
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living and breathing in the digital world. But yet when
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I see them glued to digital devices, you know, I
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go I have a debate in my brain, like is
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this good? Is this bad? You know, they need to
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be digital natives, you know. I want them to love this,
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but I want them to love the outdoors. And so
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I go through this. I don't know what the best
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approach for them might be. So that's a challenge for me.
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I you know, for me, it's it's they're far more
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open to the world than I was. I lived in
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a very contained environment, and so it's like, what's the
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right thing? All of us, anybody who's a parent is
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constantly gathering lots of different models and trying to evaluate
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what is right. But I think, ultimately I'm clear that
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I want them to be good human beings. I want
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them to be empathic. I think we don't have enough empathy. Ever.
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I want them to find their passion, not my passion,
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not their mother's passion, their own passion, and use that
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to like their FEUs. I want them to become able
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to ask great questions. I think it's ultimately the quality
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the questions we ask in life that are the most
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important things. So that's really fundamentally, And I want them
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to learn the benefit of working hard, the notion that
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you know, you can be lucky. But the majority of times,
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the things that I've done in my life that have
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been successful, like I said earlier, their overnight success is
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after eleven years of hard work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's nice hearing that that vulnerability with the kids because
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it's nice that it just comes back to those essential
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kind of like famentals. Yeah, the essential fundamentals that impact everything.
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And it's it's interesting because I remember when when I
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was it's probably about I don't know, maybe like seven
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years ago, and I remember I went to a talk
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that was organized by the Financial Times and it was
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Eric Schmidt, and I don't know, you probably even know Eric, Well,
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I know Eric, well, yeah, you know, yeah exactly. So
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I was just thinking, yeah, so you know Eric, I
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can't remember who did it with. I need to remember anyway.
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So it was about the book how Google Works, and
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the book was fantastic, one of my favorites also, and
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his partner who was with him, I can't remember who
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was I need to remember. Anyway, he was sitting with
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someone and that person was asked a question from a
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person in the audience that say, well, you know, what
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do you think we should be working on? And their
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partner said, well, you know, the world's going to be
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owned by data. So seven years ago he said, everyone
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in the world should become data analysts. And if you
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become a data analyst, then you will be the most
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successful person as life goes on. Now, I like what
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you said differently that actually you want your kids to
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follow their passions, not your passions, not your wife's passions.
24:21
Tell us about some of the skills that are going
24:23
to be more valuable moving into the future, and how
24:27
people can apply their passions to those, because I feel
24:30
like you see it more as a synergy between the
24:32
two as opposed to like like, for example, I love data,
24:35
but I'm not a data analyst, and I get data
24:38
and I use data, but that's not the skill I
24:40
focus on.
24:41
Speaker 1: When you people say well what technology should they get into?
24:44
What industry should they get into? And you know, I say,
24:48
number one, they should get into what they love, you know,
24:52
it's become clear about what are you passionate about? And
24:56
along those lines, it's really important to understand the problem
25:01
in that area more than anything else, because the technology
25:06
is constantly changing, right, The technology is constantly being updated upgraded,
25:11
And if you become an expert in a particular technology,
25:14
that technology is going to no longer be here some
25:19
single digit and years from now. But if you're an
25:23
expert in the problem space, you know the problem is
25:26
going to still be there, or elements of the problem
25:28
can to still be there. So how to become an
25:30
expert in what hasn't worked and the problem space so
25:35
you can apply new technologies to it. I think that's
25:38
an important set of thinking there. Again, part of me
25:43
is as teaching the kids. I can't teach them that.
25:47
It's asking the kids, inspiring the kids to ask great
25:50
questions because question asking, you know, we're heading towards a
25:53
world Jay where you're going to be able to know
25:57
anything you want, anytime you want, anywhere you want. Again,
26:00
you can ask any question and the data will be
26:04
there to answer it. I like to use as my example,
26:08
you know, asking the question what's the average spectral color
26:12
of a man's jacket on Madison Avenue, you can ask
26:15
that question and know the answer right, not approximately, there
26:20
will have been you know, tens of thousands of cameras
26:24
imaging people as they walk down being able to do
26:27
the spectral analysis. And then you can ask another question, like,
26:32
you know, is there a correlation between any ad campaigns
26:35
and what people are wearing today? Who knows, But it's
26:38
again if the data is there. If we're living in
26:41
a world of a trillion sensors today one hundred trillion
26:44
sensors by twenty thirty, these are drone satellites, forward looking
26:51
cameras on augmented reality goggles, cameras and lighters on autonomous
26:58
cars imaging everything. You can start to ask unusual questions
27:02
and get unusual answers.
27:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got an unusual question for you when you
27:06
talk about, you know, a multiplanetary species.
27:11
Speaker 3: If let's say we were able to.
27:14
Speaker 2: Create a new home and you were one of the
27:20
first people to go to this new home, what would
27:24
be the first rule or law that you had set
27:29
in this new home? And how would you ensure Because
27:34
I'm yes, and again I'm assuming, but I guess how
27:37
would you ensure that we didn't destroy that new home
27:43
or is that inevitable? So here's that's my interesting I.
27:46
Speaker 1: Don't are two different questions.
27:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, two questions.
27:51
Speaker 1: So the first the first thing is that the technologies
27:57
that will bring us to a new home will allow
28:02
us to continually go to new homes. What I mean
28:06
by that is, if you think of the Earth as
28:09
a living organism, we'll call her Gaya. For the moment
28:16
Guya is about to bud, meaning part of Gaya will
28:20
break off and become a new organism, and that budding
28:24
will be some number of human beings. All of our
28:30
data captured in the global Internet, the all the languages, knowledge,
28:39
bird song, genomics of every species, Noah's arc, so to speak.
28:44
And so I can imagine us budding onto the Moon,
28:49
onto Mars, onto free space colonies like o Neil colonies,
28:53
and then as those colonies grow, they will bud again.
28:58
You know, we have the potential to have trillions of
29:01
humans out into the cosmos. So the first thing we
29:06
need to do is is make sure that we have,
29:08
you know, plenty of room for for growth. We humans
29:13
do our best work on the frontier where it's really
29:15
a meritocracy, where It's not the color of your skin
29:19
or what you believe, it's do you do the best work.
29:24
I'm still I'm still contenttating in the back of my mind.
29:27
What is the first law I would pass? It? Is
29:30
it like maximize happiness? Is it? I don't know.
29:35
Speaker 2: It's interesting moving to another planet is an opportunity to
29:38
reet to get right what.
29:40
Speaker 3: We got wrong.
29:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one of the challenges is it's really
29:43
hard to start afresh. So you know, there's there's you know,
29:49
it used to be that if you know in the
29:51
early American West, for example, you know, three hundred years ago,
29:57
if you did something wrong, if you really screwed up
29:59
your reputae, you could like move away, picking you name
30:05
and start again. It ain't gonna happen anymore. Your genetics
30:11
and your facial picks and profiles chase herey place, and
30:15
there's no place you can go. Really an experiment within
30:17
you government. It's like, yeah, I got to bring you
30:19
form a government. I'm going to take over Santa Monica
30:22
and try it. That doesn't work. So where could you
30:25
do that? Well, there are two places. The first is
30:29
that we're going to see this happen in space. It's
30:32
going to be interesting to see when we get off
30:36
the planet. Is it going to be a government like
30:40
the United States or China or Russia or whomever who says, oh, well,
30:44
we're bringing our jurisdiction with us, or is Elon or
30:50
Bezos going to say no, no, no, We're starting table
30:53
Rosa and we're creating something based on these first principles.
30:57
I paid for it, my first principles here the other
31:01
place that it's going to happen sooner and have a
31:04
lot more opportunities in the virtual world. I think we're
31:07
gonna end up in a future in which a lot
31:11
of us are going to live multiple realities in the
31:15
actual world, but we'll have a persona and a set
31:20
of friends and a existence profession in the virtual world.
31:25
So my friend Philip Rosdale did this early on in
31:28
Second life.
31:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's.
31:31
Speaker 1: Now truly going to become much more powerful, and you
31:36
will see new forms of government experimented with there, and
31:39
maybe we'll find out what really works well in new economies.
31:43
Speaker 3: We'll find out that's yeah, fascinating. I'm loving what this
31:47
has gone.
31:47
Speaker 2: By the way, this is like I'm like, I'm totally
31:50
in on every question. I'm asking I'm genuinely just like, ah,
31:53
I'm a treat Now. Where is the two questions again,
31:59
the first being like are there any civilizations or structures
32:05
that you find fascinating for creating these? Like are there
32:08
any civilizations you've studied over time? Like is it the Greeks?
32:11
Speaker 3: Is it? The Romans? Is it the Egyptians?
32:13
Speaker 1: Is it?
32:14
Speaker 3: Is it the Mayans? Is there? Is there anyone? Is there?
32:17
Speaker 2: Is there any tradition or old or new that you
32:20
think got parts of it right that you're fascinated by
32:21
and that doesn't have to be or even a football team.
32:25
I don't know, you.
32:29
Speaker 1: Listen, I think, uh, I think there are elements of
32:35
societies that have gotten in things right. I think, you know,
32:41
American capitalism and democracy got a good approximation. I think
32:48
there's a lot that is broken right now, but there's
32:52
a chance to get it, to get it right as well.
32:56
I think the ability to have a a different type
33:01
of representative democracy where if I'm you know, if you
33:05
have to vote on an issue of space and you
33:09
don't know about space, rather than in a direct democracy
33:13
voting on it yourself, you can assign that vote for
33:16
space to me because I'm tracking it, and I think
33:19
I know who I want to back. So there's lots
33:22
of ways of reinventing the voting system, there's lots of
33:24
ways of reinventing the economies. I think there's going to
33:29
be the use of AI is going to play a
33:32
very important role. But what's really interesting about the future
33:37
JAY is far different from anything we know today. And
33:43
this is the concept I write about in the back
33:46
of my book called a meta intelligence, which is that
33:51
we're on the verge of connecting our brains with the cloud,
33:55
and so our brains have hundred billion neurons one hundred
33:58
trillions sent a half of connection. Everything ever heard, seeing, feel,
34:02
thought is resident in those synaptic connections, in this couple
34:07
of kilograms of tissue. And just like our cell phones
34:14
do a limited amount of computing on the phones, and
34:17
the majority of the hard work goes from the phone
34:21
to the edge of the cloud and then the answer
34:24
gets calculated there, it comes back to the phone. That
34:27
we're going to connect our brains to the cloud itself.
34:31
Folks like Elon Musk are working on this. Brian Johnson, Facebook, Google.
34:40
I'm sure every government, major government is in some way,
34:42
shape or form too of how do you augment a
34:44
person's intelligence, And all of a sudden, if I can
34:50
connect my brain to the cloud, and you can connect
34:53
your brain to the cloud, and everyone who knows our
34:56
work connects the cloud. If I can, if I connect
35:00
with you through the cloud and know your thoughts so intimately,
35:05
it is an extraordinarily different world we live in where
35:09
eight billion people are connected at a level of empathy
35:12
like never before. And people go, that's a crazy idea. Well,
35:16
let me remind you that you and I both are
35:20
a collection of thirty trillion individual cells connected and working together.
35:28
I see myself as Peter. I feel like Peter. That's
35:30
my consciousness, that's my ego. But I have every one
35:35
of my cells and my body is alive and processing.
35:39
Speaker 2: That's an incredible thought to have. If we were able
35:42
to connect our brains to the cloud and then share
35:44
empathy and even just look into each other's thoughts and
35:48
figure that out. And by the way, I'm totally positive
35:51
about the future. I'm an optimist, And you know, I'm
35:55
definitely with you all the way I ask questions because
35:57
I'm just always intrigued by with and by the way
36:01
your answer so far, I've been great. I look at
36:03
a going back to that second life statement in the
36:05
virtual life, which I love that distinction you made that
36:08
you know, we'll have a second goal on another planet,
36:10
but more realistically, very like more sooner, not realistically more sooner,
36:15
we'll have it in a you know, a virtual world.
36:18
It reminded me of this very famous Seneca quote which
36:22
I just pulled up here, where he's said, we suffer
36:26
more in imagination than we do in reality. And I
36:30
wonder how much our mental health becomes harder to manage
36:36
when we deal with a virtual life with virtual consequences,
36:40
which obviously, like a dream, feel very real right and
36:44
you're now living that, and then you have to come
36:45
back to reality and deal with that whole parallel universe
36:50
thing going on right now and your mind being able
36:52
to process that. Where do you find the role of
36:56
mental health in allowing the average individual to manage that?
37:00
Because I feel like there are and I'm not saying
37:03
that there are different levels of thinking in the sense
37:04
of some people, there are different capacities of thinking. Some
37:08
people's minds can stretch over that idea, and some people
37:11
are looking for that simplicity. Where do you find someone's
37:14
ability to manage their mental health when they're now dealing
37:18
with rejection and failure, both in the virtual world and
37:22
in the real world.
37:23
Speaker 1: I have two mediate thoughts there. At Number one is
37:27
I think if you showed the average life of a
37:31
person today to someone who lived one hundred years ago,
37:37
they would not be able to cope.
37:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
37:40
Speaker 1: I think that we live such a frenetic life of
37:45
infinite entertainment, going from phone call to zoom to meeting
37:49
to all of this stuff, that it would be they
37:54
would be like in paralysis analysis and being oh my god,
37:58
that's crazy. But yet we do deal with it. And
38:03
I think we evolve social norms. We're not evolving genetically
38:09
at a rate, but we're evolving culturally. The second thing is,
38:13
and I spent a lot of time thinking about this,
38:15
we are all going to evolve a version of Jarvis
38:20
from Iron Man, where Jarvis is an AI software shell, yeah, gathering,
38:27
and we have that right in Alexa, in Siri and Google.
38:32
Now it's the early versions of that, and ultimately what's
38:38
going to be happening is that AI software shell is
38:44
going to be able to help you cope, help you
38:47
do analysis, help you process things, make choices and it
38:53
will make it easier for you. It will be able
38:57
to answer you like seeing all the data here? Am
39:01
I being biased by what I most recently heard? Because
39:05
AI is, unlike humans, can expand to a massive amount
39:09
on the cloud. So yeah, I think AI is going
39:13
to play an important role in who we evolve into.
39:17
Speaker 2: M Yeah, No, absolutely, And I love what you do
39:20
in the book, and I just want to point out
39:21
to everyone who's listening and watching right now. So what
39:24
I loved about Peter's book is you'll see here and
39:27
I would show it to a camera if we were
39:29
filming in the studio. But Peter, in this section goes
39:32
through the rebirth of everything, So you talk about the
39:34
future of shopping, advertising, entertainment, education, healthcare. So I'm only
39:38
diving into parts of it that that I'm fascinated by
39:40
and asking a lot that isn't even in the book,
39:43
because I really feel the book so brilliantly covers the
39:47
industries that are going to change, and whether it's your
39:49
industry or an industry that's connected to your industry, I
39:52
think it's highly relevant because you're not You're not going
39:55
to find the information in here anywhere else, So Peter
39:58
with that, Let's let's dive into the health pop because
40:01
I think health is such a big thing that obviously
40:02
my community already cares about, and you.
40:04
Speaker 3: Talk about making one hundred years over.
40:07
Speaker 1: Let me just hit one more thing on mental health.
40:09
I think it's really really important here for people, which is,
40:12
our brains are sensitive to what we let into them.
40:17
If you're letting in danger and damage and issues and
40:22
problems all the time, if you've got the crisis News
40:26
Network what I call CNN or Fox, I don't have
40:29
a good acronym for them yet on all the time
40:34
and just blasting you with every murder, every problem, every lie,
40:38
every issue around the planet, then you are going to
40:42
be just decimated. So one of the things we need
40:46
to do is be very careful about what we let
40:50
into our brains. It's like you are the average of
40:53
the five people who spend the most time with you
40:57
are impacted by the environment you're in, what posters you
41:00
have on the wall, what content you let in, and
41:03
so that is such a fundamental You know, you couldn't
41:07
pay me enough money to have a lot of the
41:10
content presented by television and newspapers and magazines. You know,
41:15
they couldn't pay me to have me absorb it, and
41:18
I'll just as an aside. Jay. You know, I started
41:21
a secret project three years ago that we're now just
41:25
beginning to tell the universe about. It's a project called
41:30
future Loop. I built a team around an amazing machine
41:35
learning scientist, Morgan McDermott, and we built an AI platform
41:41
that scans all of the news around the world, scientific journals,
41:45
social media, all the mainstream news and so forth. And
41:49
it's able to filter the news in a way that's
41:52
really important. Number One, it can filter the news from
41:54
a positive sentiment and a future forward sentiment and look
41:59
at what are the x fidential technologies reinventing whatever industry
42:03
you're interested in. So you pug it, you put in
42:06
shoes or bananas or whatever, and you'll see the future
42:11
forward news of how that area is being reinvented. I
42:15
also the system is able to create an avatar, a
42:18
digital avatar about anybody, meaning it can create a digital
42:24
avatar of Elon Musk or myself or Ray Kurzweil, and
42:29
it can then say to that digital avatar, what news
42:33
is out there that you're most interested in reading. So
42:37
the system can say Hey, this article is recommended by
42:43
virtual Ray Kurzweil and uploaded by Virtual Peter and Virtual Elon,
42:48
And so you can see the news filtered in that fashion,
42:51
and it so for me, it's about really being careful
42:55
about what I absorb. There's so much extraordinary news out there,
43:00
but because negative news cells ten to one over positive news,
43:06
we rarely.
43:07
Speaker 3: See it totally. When can we start using that?
43:10
Speaker 1: So it's in a free beta right now if you
43:12
just go to futureloop dot com and register, so many
43:16
features are going to be added. I love It'll be
43:18
free for or some versions that will be free for
43:21
many years to come. So it's meant to be a
43:24
means for reinventing the news you receive and very importantly
43:28
to shape our mindsets.
43:31
Speaker 2: Future looop dot com. Yeah, I love that. That's awesome.
43:34
That's such a great idea. I think that's absolutely brilliant
43:37
because I'm a believer with you, Like I don't I
43:40
stay informed, but I don't sit there watching the news
43:44
like I think there are multiple ways to be informed
43:47
and know what's going on without having to sit there
43:49
in front of a TV. And I like the Crisis
43:52
News Network Acronym and there's also the I was trying
43:55
to play around with the folks on you said, and
43:56
I thought of fear on xerox, like almost copier like
44:00
fear on. Yeah, fear on something x is a hard
44:04
letter to think of work. But yeah, it's just fear, fear, fear,
44:07
fear fear right like scarce scarce, gare scare and and
44:11
I you're right, we stay glued to it and so
44:14
so yeah, no, at future looke dot com, I love
44:16
that idea and I can't I can't wait to play
44:18
around with it, and I really hope that it it
44:20
develops into something that a lot of you.
44:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, planned take a look and send me your feedback.
44:25
But I will very proud of it. And I'm clear
44:28
about where we're going. There should be a means by
44:32
which this site helps you predict where the future is going.
44:36
It is. It is an exponential and abundance mindset. So again,
44:42
how do you want to shape your mind?
44:44
Speaker 3: Yeah?
44:44
Speaker 1: If you want to shape your mind on constantly being
44:47
depressed and upset and fear fearful, yeah, go watch the news,
44:52
enjoy it. If you want to change your mindset to
44:55
be an exponential and abundance mindset, a solution oriented mindset,
44:59
then you need to something else, and that's why we
45:01
built future Loop.
45:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's great.
45:03
Speaker 2: It's you know, when I first started making content, what
45:07
was going viral or spreading was either negative or it
45:11
was you know, like I read an article in the
45:15
New York Times and they said, you know, the stuff
45:17
that goes viral is generally either humorous like comedic and
45:19
we all laugh at it, or it's negative. And I
45:23
was always fascinated by like, That's why it was like,
45:25
cauld we make wisdom go viral, because how amazing would
45:27
it be if people were able to share meaningful, abundant
45:31
mindset messages. And so when I started out that was
45:34
kind of like a hypothesis. It was like, you know,
45:36
is the positive and all I've seen And this is
45:39
thanks to the community and the audience that's tuned in
45:41
right now and anyone who listens or watches this, it's
45:43
it's been insane that we've had for two years running
45:47
some of the most viewed videos on social media, the
45:49
most listening to podcast, and it's like it just shows
45:52
that we as creators are constantly selling audiences short by
45:58
choosing the easy thing thing to put in front of people,
46:02
and therefore it comes back down to all of us
46:04
who are responsible for the content we create. Because when
46:07
I started, people were like, Jay, who's gonna watch stuff?
46:09
I mean, you know, it's not scary, it's not you know,
46:11
it's not new negativity. But it's also not like, you know,
46:14
no one's taking their clothes off, like why is this
46:16
content going to work? And so it's like, it's so
46:19
interesting to me that I believe that people are you know,
46:21
people are more inclined towards these messages if presented in
46:27
the right way, and so I think future looks going
46:29
to prove that too. So yeah, I'm excited for sure.
46:32
So thanks for sharing that with us, and I'm glad
46:34
we can test it out. I was gonna ask this
46:35
question by health because you talk about making one hundred
46:38
years old the new sixty. I wonder what would if
46:42
you were able to do that, what would you hope
46:44
people would achieve in that extra forty years, because that's
46:48
what fascinates me the most. To me, I believe it's possible.
46:51
I'm with you, but what do you know achieve?
46:54
Speaker 1: You mentioned Singularity University earlier. Love it, and I'm very
46:58
proud of that one I co founded him as the
47:02
chancellor of myself as the co founder and chairman. And
47:07
there's a concept called the singularity which is that, and
47:10
I write about in the futures Faster. You think that
47:14
the world is getting faster for a number of reasons,
47:18
and the rate at which is getting faster is it
47:20
self accelerate. And there's a concept called the singularity, which
47:26
borrows its name from physics in the black hole. The
47:31
idea of a singularity that there is an event horizon,
47:35
and thus singularity is a moment in time in the
47:38
future in which the rate of change is so fast
47:43
that it's impossible to predict what happens next. And ultimately
47:50
Ray's prediction of when that will occur is the late
47:55
twenty thirties, right, so early twenty forties, So you know,
48:03
think about that, it's twenty years away from now, twenty
48:06
five years at most. And if that's the case, then
48:09
we're living in a time where we're not far from
48:12
having everything possible, you know, where we have nanotechnology and
48:17
AI and three D printing and all of these technologies
48:21
enabling us to make our grandest dreams come true. So
48:27
I want to live long enough to see that. I
48:31
think at that point everybody becomes a creator, the ability
48:35
to make your grandest dreams come true, solve problems and such.
48:40
So I think that's part of the equation my other vision.
48:44
And I spend a lot of time in companies that
48:47
are about stem cells and exosomes and wind pathway manipulations
48:51
and a whole slew of different companies. But I think
49:00
a lot of it is living your full life's potential
49:05
without having the suffering, right, And it's how do you
49:10
at the age one hundred have the aesthetics, the cognition,
49:13
the mobility that you had at fifty or sixty, and
49:17
you're not in a wheelchair. We're actually enjoying our lives.
49:20
It's because right now we really have sick care. We
49:23
have no healthcare.
49:24
Speaker 3: M That's so true.
49:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm hoping that with that more time.
49:31
And you also talk about how you know, we're going
49:33
to have more wealth. I think you say in the
49:35
book that we have ten times as much wealth. You know,
49:40
in a decade, we're going to create more wealth than
49:42
we have had in the last century.
49:44
Speaker 3: Sorry, that's what you say.
49:45
Speaker 2: It's you know, with that more health, with that more wealth.
49:49
I wonder what's going to help us use it wisely,
49:53
like you know, because I always feel like having more
49:57
isn't great if you don't know what to do with it.
50:00
And I wonder how do we help people and ourselves
50:06
know how to be prepared for that more responsibility, because
50:12
I feel like whether it's wealth or greater health, all
50:16
of that is a gift. And it's almost like what
50:19
we do with that gift is what makes it useful.
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And I feel like you sound optimistic that we will
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do something useful with it.
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Speaker 1: I do. I think people and part of my purpose
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is helping people find their purpose, and I think people
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who have found their purpose are able now to solve
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more and more problems. The reason that the world is
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getting better at an extraordinary rate, and a lot of
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my work is showing that we are creating more and
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more abundance, is that people can find and solve problems
50:54
greater than any time ever before, and they're more and
50:56
more entrepreneurs. And you know this is by almost every
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measure or making the world extraordinary. Of course, I'm not irrational.
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There are reasons to fear, but on the whole, even
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though between nineteen hundred and two thousand. We had World
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War One, Spanish Blue, World War two, you know, a
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great depression Vietnam and one hundred and fifty million people died.
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The world still got better an extraordinary rate over that century,
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and I think that's going to continue.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely things things have moved so so fast,
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and you're a reminder for us that it's accelerating even further.
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Is another reason why we need to stay at tuned.
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I think anyone right now, and you're so right. You
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said at the beginning there's no on and off button.
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So sitting here and complaining about the future, or being
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negative about it, or hoping that things would slow down,
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or hoping that this technology is going to disappear like
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that's not going to happen.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure people wish the Internet never happened and social
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media never happened. It's going to keep happening, and I think,
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you know, it's better to know what's happening and be
52:05
prepared then to try and hope and pretend like it's
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not happening. So before we dive in, Peter to the
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last two final fast rapid fire rounds of this podcast,
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I want to ask you, is there anything that I
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haven't asked you, that you're feeling like you really want
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to share with this community and audience that you think
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is useful for them.
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Speaker 1: We talked about mindset. We talked about the idea of
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shaping the news that comes into you. I'll offer out
52:32
that those who are interested in following my work, I
52:34
put out a blog every Sunday called if you go
52:38
to demandis dot com my last name, you can. You
52:40
can sign up for it, and I really focus on
52:43
how to help people view the world through this abundance
52:46
and exponential mindset. Otherwise, no, pal, I'm good. Let's dive
52:52
into your last two.
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Speaker 3: I love that. Awesome.
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Speaker 2: No, and absolutely I think everyone should subscribe the blog
52:57
if you can't demand this dot com and that's free
53:00
every Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Whatever. Yeah, absolutely, that's awesome. I love that. Okay, great.
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Speaker 2: So this is our rapid fire around where we have
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quick answers that each of these are filling the blanks.
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Speaker 3: You are to fill in the blank.
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Speaker 2: So the first one is technology should always create abundance.
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Nice when you hit a brick wall, knock it down.
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I only invest in.
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Speaker 1: People.
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Speaker 3: I have no tolerance for.
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Speaker 1: All right, huge egos.
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Speaker 3: Nice being an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: Means solving problems.
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Speaker 3: Ineffective companies are ones that do not evolve. Oh. Nice.
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To understand people is to know.
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Speaker 1: The passion and purpose.
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Speaker 3: Nice. Great answers. Very impressed, Peter, very very impressed.
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Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever had anyone do them all
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that quick in that world, so that's no.
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Speaker 3: Cliche answers either, So very impressed. Okay, these are your
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final five.
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Speaker 2: These are rapid five questions, which means you can answer
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them in one word or one sentence. We may dissect
54:19
if I want to, but I think you're going to
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do a pretty good question the one these are your
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final five. The first question, the one lesson you feel
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helped you the most throughout your career.
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Speaker 1: To follow follow my dreams and making a quick buck
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was a waste of time. Nice.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Question number two, what do you want to leave your
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kids with that you didn't have growing up?
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Speaker 1: The freedom to pursue whatever they desire in life?
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Speaker 3: Okay, awesome. This is more generic, not about your second planet.
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Speaker 2: If you could create a law that everyone would have
54:58
to follow in the world right now, what would it be?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Wow, man, back to the laws again.
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Speaker 2: I loves I love loss I think laws when we
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think about making laws.
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Speaker 3: The reason why I like question is not.
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Speaker 1: You know, hey, I have a whole set of I
55:19
call Peter's laws. I don't know if you know that.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
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Speaker 1: I've sold hundreds of thousands of these posters. When I
55:25
was in college, a friend of mine put on the
55:28
wall Murphy's law, if you can go wrong right. I
55:32
was so angry at that because it pissed me off.
55:35
I went to my whiteboard and I wrote, if anything
55:38
can go wrong, fix it to hell with Murphy and
55:42
put Peter's Law, and then it went on from there.
55:44
Wouldn't given a choice to both start at the top
55:46
and work your way up. The squeaky wheel gets replaced. No,
55:50
simply means to try again, one level higher. You know,
55:53
the best way to predict the future is create it yourself.
55:56
So I've got I've got like thirty of them.
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Speaker 3: I love that. I love those. We're gonna have to
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see them in the next blok.
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Speaker 1: Google Peter's Laws. You'll see the poster.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that. Yeah, Now, laws, to me
56:07
dissect deepest values. They're the best at telling what we
56:10
really care about. Okay, good, All right, So we've got
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a whole list to go there. Okay, two more questions left.
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Speaker 2: Number four, What is something that you know that you
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think is so right and so true but other people
56:22
would disagree with you on?
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Speaker 1: So what is something that you're about that the world
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is getting better on almost every level and extraordinary rate?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Interesting, That is something that I think people would debate
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for a long time for sure.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree. Good answer.
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Speaker 2: And fifth and final question, what was your biggest lesson
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from the last twelve months.
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Speaker 1: I think one of my biggest lessons has been the
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ability to work and grow closer to my team digitally
56:49
than being physically in person. I had very much a
56:53
mindset of we have to be together, we have to
56:56
come to the office and so forth, and it's been
57:00
pretty damn effective in terms of operating as a virtualized team.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love that. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: That is Peter de Amanda's everyone talking about his new
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book since January. The Future is Faster than you think.
57:18
Go and grab a copy. We put the link into
57:20
the comments and all of the sections with the podcast.
57:23
I really hope you go grab a copy. Like I said,
57:25
today was a fascinating one for me because We didn't
57:28
really follow a script. I just went straight in on
57:31
stuff that was really really on my mind about the future.
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Speaker 3: And that's what I love that you get to do
57:36
with Peter.
57:36
Speaker 2: But in the book, like I said, Peter actually breaks
57:38
down the future of advertising, the future of education, the
57:41
future of health.
57:42
Speaker 3: It goes deep into it.
57:44
Speaker 2: So whether you want to understand an industry that you
57:46
currently work in, an industry that you're fascinated about, in
57:49
industry you know nothing about, it's important to know what's
57:51
happening in the future. So you may just go on
57:53
the internet look at trends of twenty twenty and twenty
57:56
twenty one, but it's you know, this is like, this
57:59
is totally beyond that. So I hope you will go
58:00
and grab a coffee and Peter, thank you for your
58:02
time today.
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Speaker 3: And I'm excited to be in the same room with you. Man.
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Speaker 1: This is like, thank you Jay Well, I look forward
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to doing this again and physically connecting as well. I
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wish you health and happiness and all.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Peter, thank you so much, and love to
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your family as well.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, really really greatful to connect today finally after
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a long long time.
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Speaker 1: Thanks bel Thank you.
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