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Well, it's time for another edition of the Rancho Radio
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Podcast. I'm your host, long time reader
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and student of the 5th epical, Revelation.
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I'm on the West Coast, so if it sounds a little different, it's
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because I'm using a different setup.
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But I'm here and very excited. In recent days, I've been
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reading through the life and teachings of Jesus and I want to
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share with you Paper 130, Section 4 on the Discourse on
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Reality for a couple of good reasons, which I'll explain in
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just a few. But I do want to thank all those
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who've been emailing me. The program continues to grow.
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I'm so excited. I mean, it's it's you can tell
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by the trend lines that either new readers are finding it or
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there's more going on and maybe people are searching for it.
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It could also be that because of the troubled times that we live
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in, more and more people are searching for a real meaning in
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their life and that drives people to search for truth and
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certainly they're going to find it on the Rancho Radio podcast
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because that's what we talk about.
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The 5th epical Revelation is something that has been near and
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dear to me since I was about 18 years old.
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Way back in the early 80s. I discovered it just by
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accident. I was having a simple
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conversation with a Co worker and the subject of Adam and Eve
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popped up and I had my own perspectives about what I
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thought. I studied a little bit of it in
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the Bible and I knew from conversations I had with people.
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I spent a lot, a lot of time thinking about that.
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I'm not sure why, but probably just because it's such a
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fascinating story. I mean here we have the first
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two people appearing on the scene of of old history and
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their influence. Interestingly, if you if you
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look up the different cultures in the world and the different
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religions in the world, you'll find that almost every one of
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them contain a story of original creation.
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And so that tends to lend itself to the idea that something
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happened that was of significance.
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So much so that these two, what I would describe as
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supermortals, certainly the first of something and their
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influence on society is probably lost in time.
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And. But when you pick up the Urantia
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book, one of the more fascinating aspects of it is the
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papers or are the papers on the Adam and Eve story in In fact,
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I've run across a lot of Urantia book readers who have said to me
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that it was the introduction of the Adam and Eve story that
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picked their interest on the Urantia book.
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And then of course, the life and teachings of Jesus are just a
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fascinating 700 page trip into the life of this creator, Son of
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man, Son of God figure who continues to influence the world
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today. I do want to mention a couple of
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things because they are important to me.
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Number one, I believe the Urantia school is starting up
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again. I just saw it this morning and
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yeah, there it is. We've got the new session starts
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September 16th, which is right around the corner.
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But you can sign up and you can join a class.
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You can pick between several different topics depending on
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your level of interest. And it's free.
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And it's, it's a bit of reading and a bit of writing, but it's
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also sharing in that journey with other people who are
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reading the Urantia book and gives you an opportunity to to
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get other people's perspectives and to share your own.
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And everybody benefits. And it's a great way to learn
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about the many different aspects of reality in the Urantia book.
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So if you want to find out more information, I know you can go
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to the Urantia Foundation website, whichisurantia.org.
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And I want to say it's urantia.org front slash Ubis,
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but I could be wrong and Joanne Strobel would would be very
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upset with me if I mislead people.
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So just start with the urantia.org and you'll be able
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to find it. Or you could just try Urantia
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book Internet school and you'll find it on any search engine.
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I also want to talk about the fact that some music is coming
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my way via one of the listeners to the podcast.
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So I'm hoping once I settle back home after my trip, I'll be able
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to pull some new music in. I want to introduce the folks to
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that. Also, I want to remind you that
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the folks at the Unity Center for Unity project that are
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putting together the Jesus Discover app.
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Those people are doing terrific work.
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And I don't, I don't give credit enough to Gabriel and, and Rick
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Lyon and his wife and, and all the people that are behind the
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scenes working so diligently to try to bring the Urantia Book
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truth to light and introduce them in new media.
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And I know the Urantia Book School is doing great things
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with Derek and, and those folks. And so there's a lot of good
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energy right now. It's almost as if the earth is
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trembling. And I think great things are
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happening, but it's unfortunately during some dark
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times. And so you have to look a little
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farther and a little deeper to find those glimmering spectacles
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of light. And this is part and parcel why
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I do these podcasts because I, I wanted to, you know, harness
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this particular medium, which is the podcast podcast world.
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And the growth in podcast listening is is pretty
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phenomenal. Back in 20/17/2018, when I first
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started doing these podcasts, it took a little while for things
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to kind of get momentum. But I think people became more
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interested in podcasting when they realize that it's nothing
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more than on on demand listening.
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Seriously, it's no different from Netflix.
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You're listening to things on your own time.
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So I want to delve into this section, Paper 130 Discourse on
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reality, because as I often do, when I have a few hours, I'll
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open up the Urantia book and I'll just start reading
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something. I try to have a linear approach
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so that I figure like right now I'm basically going through part
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four more meaningfully than I have.
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And, and because I've been more interested in learning as much
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as I can about the life of Jesus before the public ministry, I've
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read the papers on his public ministry quite a bit.
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But his earlier years deserve another reading.
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And I found when you think about, for example, that Jesus
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had an opportunity to spend a couple of years with the Indian
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travelers and he was a tutor for the young man, the boy, and, and
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he got to know Ganad and Ghanid. And Ghanid is the the kid or the
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the son of Ganad, who was an international trader in his day.
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And they traveled from India and they happened to meet Jesus
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along the way. Jesus now in his 28th year and
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he decided he was going to go out into the world and get to
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know humanity. And along the way he runs into
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this couple and they need a tutor and he is of many
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languages. So Jesus decides to travel along
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and make a living while at the same time exploring the
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Mediterranean region. There've been a few books that
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have been published, quite a few books actually, that talk about
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the fact that there's suspicion that Jesus spent time, you know,
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traveling the Mediterranean. There are a couple of good books
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about that. But interestingly, I find, and
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maybe we'll save this for another discussion and I'll ask
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you if you're a Christian, why is it that most Christians don't
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want to learn anything other than what's in the New
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Testament? Or they seem to be stuck on the
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fact that if it's not in the Bible, then it must not be true.
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But just ask yourself a question.
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If the Son of man, Son of God, the the literal creator of our
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of our universe comes and decides to bestow himself along
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as the is the only begotten son, the creator Son, you would think
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that such a momentous historical event would be captured through
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the hearts and minds of many people who would chance to be
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able to meet this man. He was a powerful individual.
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And so I'm sure there are probably a lot of traditions out
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there that have somehow miraculously survived time.
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And that's why it's it's there are some books that allude to
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the fact that Jesus, I mean, forgive me, but the whole Mormon
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religion is based on this idea that Jesus spent time outside of
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Jerusalem and touched many people's lives.
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So the Urantia book just sort of brings it all together under one
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cohesive timeline. And so we're looking at this
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particular section 130, where Jesus is now a full grown man.
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His mother is settled, James is now ahead of the family.
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And Jesus has basically said, you know, it's time for me to be
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a man and go out into the world and get to know my fellow human
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beings and come to understand them a little bit better.
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And there would be no logical reason in my mind to reject the
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idea that Jesus did quite a bit of traveling in his early years.
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And in fact, the revelators tell us that one of the remarkable
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things about Jesus traveling through the Mediterranean is he
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was able to better prepare the minds of many of these people
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early on during his private tour so that they would be receptive
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to the teachings of the apostles later, especially the Greeks.
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And so they make many references in the Urantia book where Jesus
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has talked to people who later hear about his teachings and are
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indeed more receptive and are instrumental and setting up many
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of the early churches throughout the Mediterranean and so on.
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This particular case, I wanted to take note to the discourse on
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reality. And before I do, I it gets
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pretty heavy. And of course the midwayers, the
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the entities that put together the 4th part of the book admit
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that they did. They were allowed to take some
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of the sayings of Jesus and put them into modern phraseology so
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that we could better comprehend the teachings as as Jesus was
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teaching those he came into contact with.
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And so to me, the idea of the Son of Man, the highest
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personality of our creation, is giving a discourse on reality.
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And think about that for a moment.
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Here is the literal son of the living creator of the entire
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entirety of creation. And he's giving this young man,
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Ghanid, a lesson on the discourse of reality.
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Reality that means everything. That means everything we touch,
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see, hear, taste, all of it is reality.
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And here we have the Son of Man telling this young man what
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reality is. Think about how profound it is
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that we would have the Son of man, the Son of God, giving a
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discourse on what reality really is.
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And every day today, there's all these questions about what's
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reality? What does it mean, right?
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Well, here it is. So let us read from Discourse on
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Reality, Paper 130, Section 4. The night before they left
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Alexandria, Ganeed and Jesus. Some people pronounce it Ganeed.
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Ganeed and Jesus had a long visit with one of the government
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professors at the university, who lectured on the teachings of
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Plato. Jesus interpreted for the
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learned Greek teacher, but injected no teaching of his own
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in refutation of the Greek philosophy.
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Ganad was away on business that evening, so after the professor
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had departed, the teacher and his pupil had a long and heart
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to heart talk about Plato's doctrines.
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Now I'll just interject here that recently I started reading
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about The Cave. It's one of the early courses in
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philosophy that I took, and they talk a lot about The Cave of
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Socrates that he taught Plato. And The Cave idea is that that
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the material world is the shadow of the reality of the more
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enduring spiritual world. And the story goes that these
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people are chained in their cave and all they can see are the
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shadows of the outside world, but they can't really discern
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what those shadows represent. So their idea of reality is
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based on what they think those shadows represent.
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And so it's a lesson as to how perception has a lot to do with
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reality. And there's some other
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antecedents to the story, but that's the primary, central
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theme is that reality is based on perspective, what you're
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allowed to see. And and so that's the
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conversation that Jesus was having with his learned Greek
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teacher. So, continuing on, while Jesus
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gave qualified approval of some of the Greek teachings which had
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to do with the theory that the material things of the world are
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shadowy reflections of invisible but more substantial spiritual
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realities, he sought to lay a more trustworthy foundation for
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the lad's thinking. So he began a long and
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dissertation, a long dissertation concerning the
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nature of reality in the universe in substance and in
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modern phraseology. Jesus said to Ghanid the source
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of universe reality is the infinite.
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Think about that line for a moment.
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The source of universe reality is the infinite.
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So the infinite continues to supply the literally the energy
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components that make up the universe and it's endless.
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So the source of reality is drawn from Infinity.
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The material things of finite creation are the time space
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repercussions of the paradise pattern and the universal mind
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of the eternal God, causation in the physical world, self
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consciousness in the intellectual world, and
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progressing selfhood in the spirit world.
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These realities projected on a universal scale, combined in
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eternal relatedness and experienced with perfection of
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quality and divinity of value, constitute the reality of the
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Supreme. So there's three elements that
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are interrelated that constitute the totality of reality, the
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physical world, the self consciousness that sets the
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ability to be self-conscious of the fact that you're in the
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physical world from an intellectual perspective.
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So we observe the world behind us.
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So there's the physical world, then there's the consciousness
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of our intellectual recognition of that physical world with us
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in it, and the progressing selfhood in the spirit world,
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which means the ever progressing personality growth.
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Those are the three components that make up the reality of the
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Supreme continuing on. But in the ever changing
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universe, the original personality of causation,
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intelligence and spirit experience is changeless,
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absolute. All things Jesus said, even in
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an internal, in an eternal universe of limitless values and
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divine qualities may and oftentimes do change.
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Except the absolutes and that which has attained the physical
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status, intellectual embrace, or spiritual identity which is
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absolute. It's the Son of Man describing
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the totality of reality, those 3 levels, the physical world, our
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place in it, and the growth of our personality.
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The highest level to which a finite creature can progress is
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the recognition of the Universal Father and the knowing of the
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Supreme. That is the highest level that
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we can perceive and conceive of perfection.
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Anything higher than that, it's it's not possible.
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The Universal Father represents that highest level of reality
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consciousness, and even then such a being or such beings of
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finality, destiny, go on experiencing change in the
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motions of the physical world and in its material phenomena.
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Likewise do they remain aware of selfhood progression in their
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continuing ascension of the spiritual universe and of
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growing consciousness in their deepening appreciation of and
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response to the intellectual cosmos.
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So intellectual awareness is as real as the the substance of
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material reality. They both actually coexist.
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Now, that's not to say that physical reality cannot, cannot
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exist without intellectual recognition, but intellectual
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recognition is part of reality. Only in the perfection, harmony
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and unanimity of will can the creature become as one with the
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Creator, and as such the state of divinity is attained and
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maintained only by the the creatures continuing to live in
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time and eternity. By consistently conforming His
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finite personal will to the Divine will of the Creator.
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Always must the desire to do the Father's will be supreme in the
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soul and dominant over the mind of an ascending Son of God.
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Jesus goes on to say that A1 eyed person can never hope to
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visualize depth of perspective. Neither can single eyed material
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scientists nor single eyed spiritual Mystics and
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allegorists correctly visualize and adequately comprehend the
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true depths of universe reality. All true values of creature
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experience are concealed in depth of recognition.
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That's a pretty interesting concept, because it is literally
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true that the pragmatist, the scientist, the materialist, the
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secularist, they tend to observe life through the lens of one
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level of perspective. Everything is material.
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But when you have true values of creature experience, which is
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experienceable in personal growth, you're adding a layer a
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a a second perspective of of stereoscopic depth and meaning
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and value are as real as the thing being observed.
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That's at least my interpretation.
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Jesus goes on to say mindless causation.
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That means causation without any kind of intellectual mind behind
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it cannot evolve the refined and complex from the crude and the
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simple. This is where we get into an
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argument. What is the first uncaused
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cause? Neither.
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Can spiritless experience evolve the divine characters of eternal
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survival from the material minds of the mortals of time?
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The one. Attribute to the universe which
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is so exclusively and does so exclusively characterize the
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infinite Deity is this unending creative bestowal of personality
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which can survive in progressive deity and attainment.
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Present personality is that cosmic endowment, that phase of
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universe reality, which can coexist with unlimited change
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and at the same time retain its identity in the very presence of
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all such changes and forever afterward.
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Life is an adaptation of the original cosmic causation to the
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demands and possibilities of universe situations, and it
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comes into being by the action of the universal Mind and the
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activation of the Spirit spark of the God who is Spirit.
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The. Meaning of life is its
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adaptability. The value of life is its
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progressability even to the heights of God consciousness.
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Again, mind you, this is the highest personality source in
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our reality aside from God, who's explaining the reality of
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life. So let me say that again, the
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meaning of life is its adaptability.
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The value of life is its progress ability.
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So not only are we adapting, but we're learning and we're seeking
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the truth even to the heights of God consciousness.
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Now this. Is where things start to take a
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turn. Jesus says misadaptation of
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self-conscious life to the universe results in cosmic
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disharmony. Final.
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Divergent of personality will from the trend of the universe
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terminates in intellectual isolation.
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Personality segregation. Loss.
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Of the indwelling spirit, pilot supervenes and spiritual
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cessation of existence. That's such an important
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statement, loss of the indwelling spirit pilot.
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It means that spirit fragment supervenes in spiritual
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cessation of existence. Once that spirit pilot light
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ceases to exist, the human personality cannot proceed
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forward. That's the interpretation.
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Intelligent and progressing life becomes then and of itself an
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inconvertible proof of the existence of a purposeful
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universe expressing the will of a divine Creator.
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Your life and your progression is the incontrovertible proof of
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the existence of a purposeful universe, a universe with
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purpose, and it expresses the will of a divine Creator.
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Jesus. Says and this life in the
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aggregate struggles toward higher values, having for its
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final goal universal Father Jesus also said only in degree
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does man possess mind above the animal level, aside from the
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higher and quasi spiritual ministrations of intellect.
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Therefore. Animals not having worship and
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wisdom cannot experience super consciousness.
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That would be consciousness of consciousness.
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The animal mind is only conscious of the objective
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universe. Jesus says knowledge is the
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sphere of the material or fact discerning mind.
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Truth is the domain of the spiritually endowed intellect
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that is conscious of knowing God.
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Knowledge. Is demonstrable Truth is
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experienced. Knowledge is a possession of the
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mind, Truth and experience of the soul, the progressing self.
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Knowledge is a function of the non spiritual level.
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Truth is a phase of the mind, spirit level of the universe.
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The eye of the material mind perceives a world of factual
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knowledge. The eye of the spiritual, The
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eye of the spiritualized intellect discerns a world of
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true values. These two views, synchronized
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and harmonized, reveal the world of reality, wherein wisdom
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interprets the phenomena of the universe in terms of progressive
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personal experience. Jesus goes on to say that error
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is the penalty of imperfection. The qualities of imperfection or
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facts of misadaptations are disclosed on the material level
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by critical observation and by scientific analysis.
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On the. Moral level by human experience.
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The presence of evil constitutes proof of the inaccuracies of
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mind and the immaturity of the evolving self.
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Jesus says evil is therefore also a measure of imperfection.
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In universe interpretation, the possibility of making mistakes
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is inherent in the acquisition of wisdom, the scheme of
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progressing from the partial and temporal to the complete and
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eternal, from the relative and imperfect to the final and
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perfected. Error is the shadow of relative
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incompleteness which must of necessity fall across man's
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ascending universe path to paradise.
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Perfection error is not an actual universe quality.
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It is simply the observation of a relativity in the relatedness
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of the imperfection of the incomplete finite to the
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ascending levels of the supreme and ultimate.
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Although. Jesus told all of this to the
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lad in language best suited to his comprehension.
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At the end of the discussion, Ganied was heavy of eye and was
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soon lost in slumber. They rose early the next morning
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to go aboard the boat bound for Lacea on the island of Crete.
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And so there again is the discourse on reality from Paper
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130, Section 4, conveying the truths of the Son of Man, those
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who were there in his presence, taking notes so that we could,
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in the year 2024, actually learn from the Master himself.
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This, by the way, was conveyed to Ghanied in AD 23.
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So I thought it was worth sharing.
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And I'm sure that you would agree that any times as Son of
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Man wants to teach us about the concepts of reality.
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Well, that's a good place to start 130 And so we'll leave it
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there. And we always like to keep these
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podcasts under 30 minutes bite sized chunks.
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And I. Look forward to our next get
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together. Don't forget you can always
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reach out Your Rancho book radio@gmail.com Your Rancho book
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radio@gmail.com and I hope you'll pick up my new book.
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It's available on Amazon. It's called Godless how
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Secularism is Just destroying society.
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It's a good read and it's an app that it's an adaptation of paper
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195 for those on the inside. There's no reference to the
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Urantia book, but the Urantia book inspired my latest my my
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latest essay, so look for it on Amazon.com.
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Again, it's godless how secularism is destroying
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society. Until next time, thanks again
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for joining me on the Rancho Radio podcast and I look forward
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to our next get together.