Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Lunch with the Clydesdale - Tyson Bagent Always Preaching the Word.
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- 0:32What is going on, everybody?
- 0:35It's lunchtime.
- 0:37It's Friday.
- 0:39End of the work week.
- 0:40Last episode of the week.
- 0:43Can't wait to be done with my work day.
- 0:46But I want to stay here all
- 0:47day with you guys and hang
- 0:49out and talk about all the
- 0:50stuff going around in the world, sports,
- 0:53entertainment, and CrossFit.
- 0:56But before we do,
- 0:58I've got to tackle this dartboard.
- 0:59I've got to get a good shot
- 1:02before the weekend.
- 1:04It has been an awful week.
- 1:06I'll explain in a second.
- 1:07Here we go.
- 1:15Whoa,
- 1:15that one came back and almost hit me.
- 1:19Ah, better, better.
- 1:22Still not a bullseye.
- 1:25We're going to get it someday,
- 1:26I swear to God.
- 1:27We're going to get it.
- 1:28Meredith, yes, yay Friday.
- 1:31Yes, yes, yes.
- 1:33So, like,
- 1:34and I know you guys don't really
- 1:35care about the back end of this stuff,
- 1:37but Corey has seen it.
- 1:38Between StreamYard and my
- 1:40RODECaster this week,
- 1:41I am ready to throw this
- 1:43equipment in the trash.
- 1:47Last night,
- 1:47tried to do the Justin Cutler
- 1:48interview before we got started.
- 1:50My Rodecaster would not hook up.
- 1:52I had no mic, so nobody could hear me.
- 1:55And it took me like five to
- 1:57six minutes just to get it
- 1:58up and running.
- 2:00Today,
- 2:01the same thing happened before this show.
- 2:04StreamYard has been kicking
- 2:05us out for no reason at all.
- 2:07It's been just the dumbest stuff all week.
- 2:11But I'm glad to be with you guys today.
- 2:13Glad to finish the weekend strong.
- 2:17Um, as you all know, I'm a big, big,
- 2:19big Chicago bears fan.
- 2:21Uh, schedule was released this week.
- 2:23And then this book that's coming out,
- 2:25talked about Caleb Williams
- 2:27and him not wanting to be a
- 2:28Chicago bear before the draft last year.
- 2:31So all this news is piling up and, um,
- 2:36But I still, like, I love my Bears.
- 2:38I think that what things
- 2:40that he was saying before
- 2:41the draft were actually correct.
- 2:43And it turned out to be correct.
- 2:45And he was right in all the
- 2:47things that he said.
- 2:49But just, you know, like,
- 2:50I'm always watching Bears
- 2:52news and CrossFit news.
- 2:54I watch YouTube like eight
- 2:57to ten hours a day.
- 2:58I mean, that is my channel of choice.
- 3:01I'm watching podcasts all day.
- 3:03But most of you know that
- 3:05the Bears' backup
- 3:06quarterback is Tyson Bajent.
- 3:09Tyson Bajent grew up in the
- 3:11CrossFit space.
- 3:13His dad was an affiliate owner.
- 3:15His dad was an announcer at
- 3:16the CrossFit Games.
- 3:18And he was on a local
- 3:20Chicago radio podcast this week.
- 3:25And I want to play it for
- 3:26you because he is preaching
- 3:29CrossFit during this interview.
- 3:34Thirty six minutes long.
- 3:37And so I'm just going to
- 3:38play you an excerpt about
- 3:39minute thirty one is where
- 3:41he starts getting into this.
- 3:43And it's called Recap.
- 3:45And the subtitle is Chicago
- 3:47Bears quarterback Tyson
- 3:48Bajent on why it's
- 3:49different with Ben Johnson
- 3:51and Caleb ready to skyrocket.
- 3:54So I'm going to share that with you.
- 3:59So if you want to go check
- 4:00it out for yourself and see
- 4:02the whole thing.
- 4:03First thing I noticed right
- 4:04away is Tyson has cut off
- 4:06all of his hair.
- 4:07He is almost clean shaven on the top.
- 4:11But here, Dave Kaplan,
- 4:14who is the guy in the middle,
- 4:16this guy right here,
- 4:17he is going to ask him
- 4:18about his workouts.
- 4:20And that's when we get into
- 4:23all of the good stuff.
- 4:24So.
- 4:25Here we go.
- 4:26I'm going to ask you about
- 4:27your workouts because I
- 4:28read about it last year
- 4:30where you're doing these workouts.
- 4:31Yeah, I'm going to pull it up.
- 4:32Just stupid hard with your butt up.
- 4:35Yeah, my mentor slash best friend,
- 4:38Derek Gallagher,
- 4:39but I work out with about all my buddies.
- 4:42That's a prerequisite to
- 4:44being my buddy is that we
- 4:45get it in together.
- 4:46So what is a... Oh, that was bad.
- 4:50I was in the pain cave right there.
- 4:52Don't show too much of that now.
- 4:57um no so it's not really a
- 5:01design um rather rather it
- 5:04is uh crossfit so um I've
- 5:06been doing crossfit ever
- 5:08since I was around eight
- 5:09nine years old um and the
- 5:10way crossfit is defined is
- 5:12constantly very functional
- 5:13more functional movements
- 5:14performed at high intensity um
- 5:18So that's kind of how me and
- 5:19my brother and my dad kind
- 5:21of had us getting down
- 5:22since an early age.
- 5:23And then I kind of developed
- 5:25my own kind of love and
- 5:27understanding for it ever since, you know,
- 5:28once I became like around seventeen,
- 5:30eighteen and started
- 5:31understanding what it means
- 5:32to be healthy and what that is.
- 5:40I don't know what the heck I would do.
- 5:42I don't know what I'm going
- 5:43to do when all this
- 5:43football stuff's over with.
- 5:44That's to be determined.
- 5:46But, um,
- 5:48Yeah, we like to get it in.
- 5:51So programming, CrossFit workouts,
- 5:53most of the time I'll let
- 5:55him do the programming.
- 5:56He's got a trick shoulder
- 5:58and is a little older than me,
- 5:59so I let him pick the workouts.
- 6:02But then I also do my own
- 6:05programs with my other
- 6:08friend and kind of new CrossFit mentor,
- 6:12Andrew Hiller,
- 6:12who actually lives not far from here.
- 6:15Twenty years from now,
- 6:16you'll be in your forties.
- 6:17This football thing will likely be over.
- 6:19I'm not.
- 6:21So there it is.
- 6:25Hiller getting some air time
- 6:26in the Chicago local area,
- 6:30as well as Tyson Bajan
- 6:31educating on what CrossFit is,
- 6:34what it means to him,
- 6:36how he uses that workout,
- 6:38how he's done it since he's been eight,
- 6:40nine years old.
- 6:41And now he's a quarterback
- 6:43in the NFL for my beloved Chicago Bears.
- 6:47It was a great interview.
- 6:48He is just a ball of energy
- 6:52and positivity.
- 6:55And so it was so much fun
- 6:56watching the interview.
- 6:57Got me so hyped for the season.
- 7:00But it's crazy when you're
- 7:01watching like something
- 7:02with your one love in the
- 7:04NFL and my Chicago Bears
- 7:06and my CrossFit world collides with that.
- 7:09And you listen to Tyson talk about
- 7:14uh, what CrossFit is, what it means to him,
- 7:16how it got him where he is today.
- 7:19Um,
- 7:19and all the people in his life that
- 7:20have helped him with that along the way.
- 7:22So, uh, pretty awesome.
- 7:24Again, you can check that out.
- 7:26It's called recap, um, R E K A P. Um,
- 7:33so uh yeah and that's a
- 7:35that's a show dave kaplan
- 7:37is a morning radio host in
- 7:39chicago sports radio and
- 7:41then he has this podcast on
- 7:43the side um so
- 7:47Corey says, love that dude.
- 7:48Wish he was in NOLA.
- 7:50They actually talk about
- 7:51that in this interview.
- 7:54There have been some
- 7:56rumblings that the New
- 7:58Orleans Saints are actually
- 8:00interested in bringing on
- 8:01Tyson Bajan as a starter,
- 8:04and they asked him about that,
- 8:05and his answer was that
- 8:08he goes with the premise
- 8:09that he worries about where
- 8:10his feet are today and
- 8:12where his feet are today is
- 8:13to be the best backup
- 8:14quarterback for the Chicago
- 8:16bears that he can be and to
- 8:18make Caleb Williams,
- 8:19the best quarterback that he can be.
- 8:21And he's got a lot to learn with that.
- 8:23And he is,
- 8:24that is where his hundred
- 8:25percent focus is.
- 8:27If something like that were
- 8:28to come up down the line,
- 8:30he would surely be into
- 8:34exploring those options.
- 8:36But they actually bring up
- 8:37the Saints specifically
- 8:40looking for a starting quarterback.
- 8:42And I guess they have
- 8:43inquired to the Bears about
- 8:45the availability of Tyson Bajent.
- 8:47Again,
- 8:48I am not as inside in that world as
- 8:50I am in the CrossFit world.
- 8:53But I guess that that did actually happen,
- 8:58dude.
- 8:59So maybe someday in the future,
- 9:02he could be in New Orleans.
- 9:05Tyson promoting CrossFit
- 9:07more in three minutes than
- 9:08Matt Frazier in a three-hour interview.
- 9:10I know.
- 9:11What's cool about Tyson is
- 9:13every opportunity he gets
- 9:14to talk about CrossFit, he does,
- 9:16and he does it very willingly,
- 9:18and he does it very passionately.
- 9:21And so I think that's really
- 9:22awesome that he does that.
- 9:26If...
- 9:27because I watch the bears
- 9:28all the time and I watch
- 9:29all the press conferences
- 9:30and I watch all the the
- 9:32things that go on he does
- 9:34bring them up all the time
- 9:36he brings up crossfit
- 9:37constantly about workouts
- 9:39he's done about now he does
- 9:42shut down the crossfit
- 9:43workouts the high intensity
- 9:45aspect of it during the
- 9:47season but in the off
- 9:49season he's all in and uh fully on board
- 9:56So, yeah,
- 9:56I just thought that was something
- 9:57fun to share with you from
- 9:59kind of outside our normal space.
- 10:02But I thought that would be
- 10:03kind of a fun share.
- 10:06So I got some messages from
- 10:09Jay Birch last night.
- 10:11And then I saw that Barbell
- 10:12Spin broke it today that
- 10:16the stream for TFX is only
- 10:20going to be Saturday, Sunday.
- 10:22They are not streaming today's two events.
- 10:25So you can only leaderboard
- 10:26watch for that.
- 10:28Or if you know an athlete that is there,
- 10:31I know Matt Brady is there.
- 10:32He's been having a family
- 10:34member stream his stuff live.
- 10:38I got a notification on that today.
- 10:41But there is no stream today.
- 10:43So it's kind of piecing
- 10:44things together or looking
- 10:46at the leaderboard.
- 10:47But then tomorrow and Sunday,
- 10:49you can watch it on YouTube.
- 10:52And there are links.
- 10:53I mean,
- 10:54if you search TFX Invitational on YouTube,
- 10:57I'm sure it'll pop up.
- 10:59But they will be streaming events three,
- 11:03four, five,
- 11:03and six for the end of the weekend.
- 11:07So that's what we have there.
- 11:12As for my picks for this weekend,
- 11:15with so many people
- 11:17dropping out because
- 11:18they've already qualified
- 11:19in the in-person semifinal,
- 11:21or they think they have,
- 11:22it's not official yet,
- 11:26the field is actually kind of limited.
- 11:30But here are my picks for
- 11:31who is going to qualify and
- 11:34who will podium at TFX.
- 11:37On the men's side,
- 11:38I have Chris Ibarra winning
- 11:40with Nick Matthew finishing
- 11:42second and CJ Gerald finishing third.
- 11:47Also, people to watch out for,
- 11:50I would say...
- 11:56Oh, gosh.
- 11:58Bill Leahy is someone to
- 11:59look out for there.
- 12:01I just don't know how
- 12:02recovered he is from his injury.
- 12:04I haven't seen him high
- 12:05enough on the leaderboard
- 12:06to give me super confidence
- 12:07in picking him to win.
- 12:11And that's why I went with
- 12:14Nick Matthew and Ibarra.
- 12:17above him at this point and
- 12:19cj gerald is an awesome
- 12:21athlete I've been following
- 12:22him in his semi-final
- 12:23career for about four years
- 12:26he went on a team to the
- 12:27games last year so uh he
- 12:30took a year off to kind of
- 12:31focus on some things and he isn't
- 12:35a lot of like the regional
- 12:37comps in the west he does
- 12:39really really well in and I
- 12:42think he might be a
- 12:43surprise uh to show up on
- 12:45the podium as cj gerald
- 12:47watch out for that that
- 12:48name there he is in the
- 12:51austin hatfield colton
- 12:52merton stature um but he is
- 12:55really strong really fit
- 12:58really good at gymnastics
- 12:59look for cj gerald to pop on that side
- 13:05on the women's side,
- 13:06I have Sydney McAlishan winning it.
- 13:10I think she's had a good showing, uh,
- 13:12at WFP last weekend.
- 13:14Um, and I,
- 13:17I just think she's poised after
- 13:18a couple of years off to
- 13:20really come back and get at it.
- 13:21So Sydney to win, uh,
- 13:23Olivia Kerstetter to take second.
- 13:26And then I have Rebecca
- 13:28Fuseli taking third.
- 13:31Uh, I see Craig has Hannah black in there.
- 13:34Um,
- 13:36I love Hannah Black.
- 13:37She's one of the people I
- 13:39love just chatting with.
- 13:42I think she will do well,
- 13:44but I think she still has
- 13:46to close the gap on some of
- 13:47her holes a little bit more
- 13:49to really get into that top three.
- 13:51I think she'll do fine on
- 13:52the barbell stuff.
- 13:54And this is where I don't
- 13:55have Olivia winning.
- 13:57I think that Sydney is not
- 14:00just as strong as Olivia,
- 14:02but because we're doing
- 14:04just basic points,
- 14:06Olivia is not going to
- 14:07extend beyond Sydney very
- 14:09much in the barbell because
- 14:10Sydney is pretty strong and
- 14:13where Sydney will make up
- 14:14ground is she is not,
- 14:16she doesn't have as big a
- 14:17deficits in the other areas as, uh,
- 14:21Olivia does.
- 14:23So I think she'll make up
- 14:24some ground with Olivia,
- 14:27like on rope climbs and
- 14:28things of that nature.
- 14:30Uh,
- 14:32And Craig,
- 14:32I know TFX has a lot of barbell work,
- 14:35but if you finish thirtieth
- 14:38or fortieth in an event
- 14:39that is not barbell,
- 14:41it's going to be hard to come back from.
- 14:43And that's where Hannah's
- 14:44problem is right now.
- 14:46She cannot.
- 14:48She has not proven that she
- 14:50can damage control those
- 14:52events at this point yet.
- 14:57That's my my feeling.
- 14:58I could be wrong.
- 14:59I could be proven wrong this weekend.
- 15:02I think she is a phenomenal
- 15:04athlete and is really
- 15:05trying hard to get to that spot,
- 15:07but it takes a lot of work
- 15:09and a lot of time.
- 15:11And we'll see like,
- 15:13like take someone like
- 15:14Anika Greer who qualified
- 15:15out of the in affiliate semifinal.
- 15:17She has been working on her
- 15:19running since I have known her.
- 15:21And that was five, five years ago.
- 15:24I mean,
- 15:24I think the first episode we did
- 15:25with her was like episode thirty two.
- 15:27We're on like eleven hundred.
- 15:30And she's been working on
- 15:31running ever since then.
- 15:33And she stopped lifting so much,
- 15:35stopped doing some of those other things.
- 15:37And she still has a big hole
- 15:39in running after five years
- 15:41of working on it.
- 15:43So Hannah's been working on
- 15:44the running for two years
- 15:47and working on that cardio
- 15:49and the upper body pulling
- 15:50stuff that she needs to improve on.
- 15:52And I just don't think that
- 15:53that's enough time to have
- 15:55improved at this point.
- 15:59And Jason Bourne, I think you're right.
- 16:00I don't know who he thinks is right,
- 16:02whether Craig or me, but either way,
- 16:05give support to who he thinks right.
- 16:11I am bummed that we can't
- 16:12watch the workouts today,
- 16:13although I am pretty tired
- 16:15of heavy Isabel,
- 16:17but I would like to see if
- 16:18Olivia Kerstetter can go
- 16:19faster than the three Oh
- 16:22four or three Oh five that
- 16:24she pulled off in, in affiliate semis.
- 16:28especially after this will
- 16:29be her third week in a row of competing.
- 16:33We talk about,
- 16:35is this too much in one
- 16:36season to compete week
- 16:39after week after week?
- 16:40Today is going to tell us a
- 16:43lot because we have some
- 16:45athletes that are going for
- 16:47their third week in a row.
- 16:49Um,
- 16:50and it's going to be interesting to see
- 16:51how they do.
- 16:52A lot of the,
- 16:52these athletes did an
- 16:53affiliate semifinals.
- 16:55They did WFP and now they're
- 16:57doing TFX in three straight weeks.
- 17:00Um, and we're going to see what,
- 17:03what that means.
- 17:09Uh,
- 17:10Lito says no way she can go faster than
- 17:12an,
- 17:13an affiliate considering they have to
- 17:14move the barbell forward in
- 17:16live competition.
- 17:21I hear you.
- 17:24Olivia has done things that
- 17:25I didn't think were humanly possible.
- 17:28Um, so I don't know.
- 17:32I understand your logic
- 17:33behind it and it makes perfect sense.
- 17:36Um, but yeah, I,
- 17:39I just don't put anything
- 17:40past Olivia at this point.
- 17:43Some of the stuff she did at
- 17:43West coast last night blew
- 17:45my mind or last year blew my mind.
- 17:52strategically, Eric Mackey says,
- 17:55Olivia should go,
- 17:56just go for three forty
- 17:57five and still take the win.
- 17:58You're probably right.
- 17:59There's no need to win by a
- 18:01minute on this workout.
- 18:03You just need to win and
- 18:05then save yourself for the
- 18:06rest of the weekend,
- 18:07especially competing three
- 18:09weekends in a row.
- 18:13Jason Bourne says, I saw Colton is at TFX.
- 18:16He sure is.
- 18:17He is there to do some
- 18:18sponsor stuff and hang out
- 18:20with Paper Street Coffee,
- 18:21I believe is part of his plan,
- 18:23but also his fiance is competing.
- 18:25Ali Zerkey qualified for...
- 18:28for tfx so this is her first
- 18:31big competition um in the
- 18:34individual division um
- 18:36during the crossfit game
- 18:37season she has competed at
- 18:39the games on a team before
- 18:41but she has never competed
- 18:43at like a regional or
- 18:44semi-final level as an
- 18:46individual athlete and
- 18:47colton is going to be her
- 18:48coach this weekend
- 18:50Uh,
- 18:51so that is probably the main reason he
- 18:53is there.
- 18:55Um,
- 18:55but I guess he's also going to hang out
- 18:56at the paper street coffee booth.
- 18:58So if you're there in
- 19:00Oklahoma city and you
- 19:01wanted to check out and go see Colton, uh,
- 19:04I think he's going to be
- 19:05hanging out over there at that, uh,
- 19:07paper street coffee booth.
- 19:08Uh, you can probably get a picture,
- 19:11an autograph, or just chat with the dude.
- 19:13Um,
- 19:16But yeah, it's cool that he's there.
- 19:18Really cool that he's there.
- 19:20And best of luck to Allie.
- 19:21She's a great person too.
- 19:25I love hanging out with her.
- 19:30One of my favorite things
- 19:32ever is after Granite Games
- 19:33in twenty twenty two.
- 19:36Yeah, twenty twenty two, I think.
- 19:39And Colton had qualified for the games.
- 19:42Ken Walters and I hung out
- 19:43with Colton and Allie for a
- 19:46while after at the hotel
- 19:48bar after Granite Games in
- 19:51twenty twenty two.
- 19:51We had a blast there.
- 19:54So love those two and hope
- 19:56Ali can really put on a
- 19:58show and do some cool stuff.
- 20:01That'll be fun.
- 20:05So I think that's it about
- 20:07TFX that I want to talk about.
- 20:10We'll have a lot more on
- 20:11that on Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 20:14As everything finishes up
- 20:15and people have punched their ticket,
- 20:17we'll go through the workouts.
- 20:18We'll go through who did well,
- 20:21what was good,
- 20:22what was bad about everything.
- 20:23And that'll be with Carolyn
- 20:25and Jamie and myself on
- 20:26Sunday Night CrossFit Talk, eight p.m.
- 20:28Eastern time.
- 20:31Also,
- 20:31I did a conversation with Justin
- 20:32Cutler last night at six p.m.
- 20:35It's out there for view now.
- 20:37It was a great conversation.
- 20:39If you have any curiosity
- 20:42about how coaches and
- 20:43athletes are looking at
- 20:44this new season with all
- 20:46the opportunities,
- 20:48the way him and Alex Kazan looked at it,
- 20:52I found fascinating.
- 20:54He talks about how they sat down,
- 20:57how they wanted to pace the
- 20:58season in a way that they
- 21:00got through safely and with
- 21:02the body most intact that it could be.
- 21:06And that's why they have not
- 21:07done anything at part of
- 21:09the CrossFit game season yet.
- 21:11They wanted to do WFP, have a month off,
- 21:14do NorCal Classic, have a few months off,
- 21:17and then do the games.
- 21:19Um, I do ask him,
- 21:21is it risky going to NorCal
- 21:24and that be your only shot?
- 21:26And he said,
- 21:26the last few years you've only
- 21:28ever had one shot.
- 21:30And so we're willing, he goes, I,
- 21:32and he actually said on the show,
- 21:34I don't like that people
- 21:35get multiple bites at the apple.
- 21:39Um, I like it.
- 21:40That is you take your shot
- 21:42and either you make it or you don't.
- 21:44Um,
- 21:46And he has every confidence
- 21:47in the world that even with
- 21:49only two spots open,
- 21:51Alex is poised to take one
- 21:53of those two spots.
- 21:56They are very confident in
- 21:57their ability to do that.
- 21:59So their plan is to do that,
- 22:04actually to get the top spot.
- 22:06They're confident in winning
- 22:07and then moving on to the CrossFit Games.
- 22:11So,
- 22:12and I think that was one of the most
- 22:13enlightening things in last
- 22:14night's interview was the
- 22:17confidence that both Alex
- 22:19and him have now in that
- 22:21they go to events to win.
- 22:23They're not going to podium.
- 22:25They're not going to get a
- 22:27qualifying spot.
- 22:28Every event that they're entering,
- 22:29they are entering to win.
- 22:33And that he believes that
- 22:35Alex has moved into that
- 22:37discussion as best female
- 22:40athlete in the world.
- 22:44So check that out.
- 22:45It's on the Clydesdale Media
- 22:46YouTube channel and
- 22:47available for you to check that out.
- 22:51We also got a little bit of
- 22:51breaking news yesterday from the WFP,
- 22:54and that is that they have
- 22:57decided to make a rule that
- 22:59the highest finishing
- 23:02challenger in the series
- 23:04that weekend will get an
- 23:07automatic bid to the following tour stop.
- 23:11So what that means is for tour stop one,
- 23:13the highest finishing
- 23:15challengers were Fisa
- 23:17Goffey in the women and
- 23:19Colton Mertens in the men.
- 23:21Because they were the
- 23:22highest finishing challenger,
- 23:25they both now get an
- 23:26automatic bid to tour stop two,
- 23:29meaning they do not have to
- 23:30do the qualifier.
- 23:32They will still come into
- 23:34that event as the top
- 23:36qualifying challenger and
- 23:39And not as a pro,
- 23:41but they will now be able
- 23:45to compete in that event
- 23:48and compete for points.
- 23:54Lito says, not challengers, pro qualifiers,
- 23:56I think.
- 23:57Well, they're still a challenger.
- 23:58They're just the top ten challengers.
- 24:01And so because they're the top ten,
- 24:02there's no way the other
- 24:03challengers could ever
- 24:04finish above them anyway.
- 24:13So it's just semantics
- 24:16because there was a challenger qualifier.
- 24:17The top ten challengers then
- 24:19go compete against the pros.
- 24:22The next twenty challengers
- 24:24compete in their own division.
- 24:28But I get what you're saying.
- 24:29They could be called pro qualifiers.
- 24:31It could be called challengers,
- 24:32whatever that is.
- 24:34Whatever it is,
- 24:36of the ten that make it to
- 24:38the pro division for competition,
- 24:41the top finisher gets an
- 24:43automatic bid to the next one.
- 24:44They are not assigned athlete.
- 24:46They are not a pro yet.
- 24:49They just get an automatic
- 24:50bid without having to do
- 24:51the qualifier for the next event.
- 24:54guaranteeing they get to
- 24:56compete for points in the next event,
- 25:00which actually solves some
- 25:02of the issues that like
- 25:04Jamie argued with me on
- 25:05Sunday night that these
- 25:09athletes go when now
- 25:10they've got to do a
- 25:11qualifier and then they got to go, blah,
- 25:12blah.
- 25:13Well,
- 25:13Colton and fee do not have to do the
- 25:14qualifier.
- 25:15Now they're automatically
- 25:16going to be there.
- 25:17And I love,
- 25:18and I actually love the rule change.
- 25:20I think it is.
- 25:22I think this is a good step for the sport.
- 25:25But what's funny is if you
- 25:26watch the TTT podcast that they did,
- 25:31kind of looking at WFP and
- 25:33where it needs to be better
- 25:34and what it can improve on,
- 25:36this was a suggestion that
- 25:38was made by them.
- 25:39And so it's almost like WFP said, wow,
- 25:42that is a good idea.
- 25:43Let's implement that and
- 25:44let's move forward.
- 25:53guys are just dogging on
- 25:55them nobody says this about
- 25:58the pga store card or the
- 26:02um I don't know man I'm
- 26:13telling you wfp is going to
- 26:15be here for a little while
- 26:18from what I've heard it's
- 26:19going to be here for a while
- 26:21Now,
- 26:21whether they ultimately are successful
- 26:23or not, I don't know.
- 26:25But they're going to be around a while.
- 26:27And I enjoyed the show.
- 26:31That's all I'm going to say.
- 26:42Andrew Hiller had something
- 26:44that I thought was really interesting.
- 26:46I didn't have this in my notes,
- 26:47but I'm going to pull this up.
- 26:58so I'm interested to know
- 27:06what you guys think of this
- 27:09post if the world fitness
- 27:13project can kill the
- 27:15crossfit games it's earned
- 27:25what do you think he meant by that
- 27:33Cause I think I know what he
- 27:35meant by that.
- 27:36And it's what I've kind of
- 27:41been saying in a lot more words.
- 27:44I guess I was using word
- 27:45salad to say this and he did,
- 27:49he did it really quickly.
- 27:52And what I've been saying is,
- 27:54if CrossFit doesn't get off
- 27:57of their ass and make some
- 28:00changes that we've been
- 28:01asking for for years to
- 28:03make a more simplified
- 28:04season that is easier to understand,
- 28:07and they don't make the changes necessary,
- 28:10WFP could capitalize on
- 28:12that and kill CrossFit.
- 28:19And in that way,
- 28:20it means that the WFP has
- 28:21been working hard to make
- 28:23the changes needed and
- 28:25taking the feedback given
- 28:27to make the changes to see.
- 28:33Yeah.
- 28:34Andrew Stan says,
- 28:37it means CrossFit let the WFP kill it.
- 28:39CrossFit has to take the WFP
- 28:41as competition.
- 28:44I agree.
- 28:47If CrossFit is going, Meredith says,
- 28:49if CrossFit is going to let
- 28:50it happen and not improve,
- 28:52then they don't deserve to
- 28:53be in the space.
- 28:55And what it means is WFP has
- 28:57made those changes and has
- 28:59listened to criticism and
- 29:01has done everything
- 29:04necessary to earn that spot.
- 29:18T-Bird ball is in CrossFit's
- 29:19court as I see it.
- 29:24This is why,
- 29:26because it's absolutely
- 29:27hilarious to me that
- 29:28they're handing out pro
- 29:29cards to whoever they want
- 29:30and making like it means something yet.
- 29:32They haven't had one yet.
- 29:34One, it doesn't mean shit yet.
- 29:38They only handed out cards.
- 29:42It's not a card.
- 29:43It's a spot.
- 29:44It's a pro spot.
- 29:46You have to have the twenty
- 29:49for the challengers to then take them on.
- 29:52It'd be like playing king of
- 29:53the hill and not putting a
- 29:54king at the top of the hill
- 29:56to take down so that you
- 29:58can take over the spot.
- 30:01In their concept,
- 30:03you have to have the target
- 30:05for the challengers to take on.
- 30:09So you had to give somebody
- 30:11these twenty positions.
- 30:15And while I will agree that
- 30:16some of those people did
- 30:18not deserve those positions
- 30:21based on their athletic ability,
- 30:27most of them did.
- 30:30Seventy-five to eighty
- 30:31percent of them deserve to
- 30:32be the twenty chosen.
- 30:36But without the target,
- 30:38you can't have the competition.
- 30:42So you have to hand it out to someone.
- 30:44Now, as the years go on,
- 30:48then those will all be
- 30:49earned because you either
- 30:51have to keep the person
- 30:52from taking you down the
- 30:54hill or you have to take
- 30:56the person off the hill to get it.
- 31:03And then it will make a lot more sense.
- 31:16Agree.
- 31:17It had its faults, but I enjoyed the show.
- 31:20Yeah,
- 31:20I don't think they were perfect in
- 31:22any way, shape, or form,
- 31:24but I really enjoyed
- 31:25watching the show all weekend.
- 31:28The stream was good.
- 31:30The workouts were good.
- 31:31The ending had drama.
- 31:34It was awesome.
- 31:40And there are already seven
- 31:41pros under the cut line.
- 31:43Yeah, there's going to be change.
- 31:45People are going to earn
- 31:46their pro card for next year.
- 31:49And he'll and fee and Colton
- 31:52did not get a pro card.
- 31:54They just got an automatic
- 31:55bid to the next event.
- 32:05Sten is one hundred percent correct.
- 32:08yeah and that is back on
- 32:10this comment uh that
- 32:13crossfit let the wfp kill
- 32:14it uh corey most of the
- 32:19athletes were chosen based
- 32:20on past performances with
- 32:21the exception of like a few
- 32:23right most of them most of
- 32:24them earned it through past
- 32:26performance there were some
- 32:29people that got it because
- 32:30of their social media
- 32:31outreach um and maybe they
- 32:33wanted a more global selection
- 32:41But all that's going to wash
- 32:43out here after this year.
- 32:51And I know in this space we
- 32:52have a lot of mountains,
- 32:54so I'm sorry I brought in
- 32:55the king of the mountain,
- 32:56but I think it's the most
- 32:56simplistic way to
- 32:57understand the concept of
- 32:59what they're trying to do.
- 33:02You have a king of the
- 33:04mountain and you're trying
- 33:05to take people off of it
- 33:07and replace yourself on there.
- 33:15that is fitting what they
- 33:17want to do into the old system.
- 33:20They're creating a new system.
- 33:23The target should have been
- 33:24the competition itself.
- 33:25It's a comp just like any other comp.
- 33:27I understand what they're trying to do,
- 33:28but it's putting the cart
- 33:29before the horse.
- 33:30It's not,
- 33:31they have to explain what they're
- 33:32trying to do.
- 33:38when other sports have
- 33:40brought this system in
- 33:41place they went and looked
- 33:43at the world rankings and
- 33:45they gave the top x number
- 33:47of people what we are now
- 33:51calling a pro card or to
- 33:54the those spots and then
- 33:58it's up to the other people
- 33:59to beat them and get them
- 34:01out of those spots that's
- 34:04their that's their storyline
- 34:07And without that storyline,
- 34:09then people are not going
- 34:10to understand it in year one.
- 34:11Then it's just CrossFit.
- 34:17I don't even know,
- 34:18CrossFit Part B. They're
- 34:22trying to be different.
- 34:23They're trying to have a
- 34:24different storyline.
- 34:38Andrew says,
- 34:40I do think they could have
- 34:41just made an open
- 34:42competition for the pro
- 34:43card instead of putting
- 34:44some in the pro division
- 34:46from the beginning.
- 34:47You don't attract the people
- 34:48without the money.
- 34:50You had to give people money.
- 34:51You had to give people a target.
- 34:54You had to make an incentive
- 34:56for people to want to do this.
- 34:58And they did that by
- 34:59selecting forty people,
- 35:01handing them money and saying,
- 35:03this is something you want.
- 35:09If you have an open competition for it,
- 35:13it takes away that attraction.
- 35:21So I don't think it would
- 35:25have worked if they would
- 35:26have had an open
- 35:26competition for the pro card.
- 35:29I think it was them saying,
- 35:31you have had a past
- 35:32performance that deserves
- 35:34X. Here's some cash.
- 35:37Come play with us for a year.
- 35:40That got their name out there.
- 35:41That got big names to come
- 35:43in and agree to do it.
- 35:44And then that ball started rolling.
- 35:47Then you actually have
- 35:48something you can work with.
- 35:52Without that ball rolling
- 35:54and without handing money
- 35:55over to the Pat Vellners
- 35:57and to the Laura Horvaths
- 35:59and those people,
- 36:00you would not have had this
- 36:01ball rolling and people
- 36:03incentivized to want to
- 36:04jump in and get that same
- 36:06thing that they got.
- 36:09The reason that Colton
- 36:10Mertens is going so hard is
- 36:12because he's pissed he didn't get asked.
- 36:15That gives him a chip on his
- 36:16shoulder to go so hard at this,
- 36:18and that's a storyline.
- 36:20That's what they're trying to do here.
- 36:30One, we don't know what the money is,
- 36:33and all it is is a minimum.
- 36:34You can earn way more than
- 36:36that if you win.
- 36:39And for the people like
- 36:40Colton who didn't get the
- 36:41guaranteed money,
- 36:42it's a huge incentive to
- 36:43come in and take that money
- 36:44away from them.
- 36:46It's also a huge incentive
- 36:47for the people that have it
- 36:48to want to keep it.
- 36:50There's never been
- 36:51guaranteed money in this sport.
- 36:54Those are the incentives.
- 36:57You have to stop looking at
- 36:59it as one competition.
- 37:01It is a series.
- 37:02It is a year long series
- 37:04that people are trying to
- 37:07push people down the
- 37:08mountain to keep their pro card.
- 37:10And the people coming up the
- 37:11mountain are trying to pull
- 37:12the people off.
- 37:15And that's why you have the whole year.
- 37:32Laura Horvath did not quit on the floor.
- 37:34Good God, man.
- 37:36You think she wanted to finish ninth?
- 37:40She won the rope climb event
- 37:43head-to-head with Alex Kazan,
- 37:44who is one of the best
- 37:45upper body pullers in the world.
- 37:48Went toe-to-toe with her and
- 37:49won that event.
- 37:50She dropped the dumbbells on the lunge.
- 37:53She hit a fatigue.
- 37:57We don't know what was going
- 37:57on that weekend.
- 37:59She didn't quit.
- 38:10I'm telling you, if I talk to Colton,
- 38:13he has a chip on his shoulder.
- 38:16He feels disrespected
- 38:17because he was not asked to
- 38:19be one of the twenty pros.
- 38:21And he is coming to get his.
- 38:25And that is what motivates him.
- 38:33Jason Bourne, bro, she quit.
- 38:35She did not quit.
- 38:37These athletes do not quit.
- 38:44Andrew, if you don't hand out the money,
- 38:47people weren't going to
- 38:48jump over and do this in
- 38:50the wave of athletes that we got.
- 38:55This is the best field other than Rogue.
- 38:59And maybe as good as Rogue is ridiculous.
- 39:07That's how they got that field.
- 39:09They got that field because
- 39:10money was handed out.
- 39:12It's an incentive.
- 39:18Justin Cutler,
- 39:19anyone who thinks the
- 39:20athletes aren't trying
- 39:21because they have a
- 39:22contract doesn't understand
- 39:23the mindset of these athletes.
- 39:31Y'all are hilarious.
- 39:33Thank you, Justin.
- 39:35Thanks for the backup, brother.
- 39:40Patrick Clark, Justin,
- 39:42you can't watch event four
- 39:43and tell me people weren't trying.
- 39:47It's pro sports people.
- 39:49You get paid period.
- 39:52Thank you.
- 39:56Yeah.
- 39:58So there's that.
- 40:01Before I go back to work,
- 40:02I have one more thing to announce,
- 40:04and that is that we have
- 40:05our first drug suspension of the season.
- 40:09It doesn't really affect the
- 40:12season as it was a fifth
- 40:15place finisher at Copa Soar.
- 40:20but her name is Patricia Goncalves.
- 40:25She failed at the drug test
- 40:27at Copasor and it appears
- 40:31that she tested positive
- 40:32for the entire pharmacy.
- 40:37You can go to the barbell
- 40:38spin where they have listed
- 40:42all of the things that she
- 40:43tested positive for,
- 40:45but I will tell you it's all of it.
- 40:48Um,
- 40:49but it doesn't really affect the season
- 40:50because she, um, because she is,
- 40:54she wasn't going to the games anyway.
- 40:57She was the fifth place finisher,
- 40:58not the first or second.
- 41:00So that is the first one.
- 41:01She did not appeal this
- 41:03decision and she is
- 41:04accepting the four-year ban.
- 41:09Uh, Justin, the entire pharmacy.
- 41:11Yep.
- 41:13There have been a few
- 41:13athletes in the past year
- 41:15that have taken the entire pharmacy,
- 41:18and that just kills me.
- 41:20Surprise, surprise,
- 41:21it came from South America.
- 41:25T-Bird says, Justin,
- 41:26stop speaking such truths.
- 41:31Patrick Clark,
- 41:32she tested positive for
- 41:33Flintstones multivitamins as well.
- 41:36Yeah, I think I see that on the list here.
- 41:37She took two Barney Rubbles and a Wilma.
- 41:47Back on the other thing,
- 41:48Justin said these athletes
- 41:49would run their grandmother
- 41:50over to win at a game of checkers.
- 41:56And Eric says they're all
- 41:57trying for every point,
- 41:58but the big difference for
- 42:00those who didn't pre-prepare right,
- 42:03Pat Vellner.
- 42:04And we don't, Pat could have been sick.
- 42:06He could have been injured.
- 42:07We don't know any of this stuff.
- 42:08Anyway.
- 42:12Anyway.
- 42:14Corey says I need to get
- 42:15back on the Flintstones train.
- 42:18Yeah.
- 42:21So that is...
- 42:28that is all we have right now for today.
- 42:31I hope everybody has a great weekend.
- 42:33We will be back Sunday night to, um,
- 42:37we'll be back Sunday night
- 42:38with Carolyn and Jamie to talk about TFX,
- 42:42see who punches their card there, uh,
- 42:44for the CrossFit games plus
- 42:46anything else that comes
- 42:47out over the weekend.
- 42:48And I'm sure we will debate
- 42:50some of these topics we
- 42:51just talked about now for sure.
- 42:55and um justin says he needs
- 42:58to get back on the
- 42:59multivitamins as well bet
- 43:01my knees would feel a ton
- 43:02better uh patrick clark so
- 43:05will we see you in mesa I
- 43:06have a spot reserved for
- 43:07you for athlete interviews
- 43:09I would love to be there I'm
- 43:11I think I will be there.
- 43:13I just have to see how my
- 43:15wife's recovering and how
- 43:16my mom's recovering from her stroke.
- 43:19Once I make sure everybody's healthy here,
- 43:22that might be a nice trip out there.
- 43:25So, yeah, we'll do that.
- 43:30Corey says, we're close to the same age,
- 43:31Justin.
- 43:32Maybe we can get sponsored.
- 43:34Wouldn't that be hilarious?
- 43:35Sponsored by Flintstone Vitamins.
- 43:39That that's big money right there.
- 43:45The heck with these other
- 43:46vitamin companies, man,
- 43:48Flintstones has all the, uh,
- 43:50Flintstones has all the money.
- 43:56Uh,
- 43:56the other thing I have to look at Patrick,
- 43:57it really is the age group
- 44:00CrossFit games that I have committed to.
- 44:02Um,
- 44:05And I know it's close to when Mesa is.
- 44:10So I have to see how that
- 44:12works itself out there.
- 44:15But I have committed to the
- 44:16age group athletes to do
- 44:19another behind the scenes
- 44:21with the age group.
- 44:22So we'll see that.
- 44:26All right, guys, I have to get back.
- 44:28I have so much on my plate at work today.
- 44:30I will...
- 44:32I need to get back to that.
- 44:33And you knuckleheads get
- 44:35back to work as well.
- 44:36We'll see everybody Sunday
- 44:38night for Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 44:39And next Monday,
- 44:40we'll be back for another
- 44:41lunch serving here on Lunch
- 44:44with the Clydesdales.
- 44:45See everybody next time.
- 44:46Bye, guys.