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Massive Weekend Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? Everybody? Happy New Year
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six? Pretty nuts. I was born in nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty four, so life is flying by. We got to
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Speaker 1: try to enjoy it. But make sure before we talk
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Speaker 1: I appreciate all you guys, thanks for being a part
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Speaker 1: of this ride the last couple of years here on
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Speaker 1: the video portion of the podcast, because that's what we
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Speaker 1: do here. And you know, when you get older, you realize,
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Speaker 1: like New Year's Eve is probably you know, Sean Payton
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Speaker 1: said he didn't even know it was New Year's Eve.
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Speaker 1: Like that's classic, Like a little too much, coach. We
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Speaker 1: understand you're working and the day of the week you're
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Speaker 1: not going out, you're not partying, you're grinding, you're getting ready.
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Speaker 1: We get it. That comment's a little stupid, but where
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Speaker 1: it is relatable, it's like New Year's Eve is no
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Speaker 1: different than like a random Wednesday. For me, I'm up
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Speaker 1: pacing around to like six thirty in the morning, throwing
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Speaker 1: game day savings, getting rained on. I'm like you know what.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have much time during the day on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: This is gonna come out Friday. Let's record a mailbag
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Speaker 1: and that's what we did so at John Middlecoff. At
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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. Get
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Speaker 1: your questions answered right here on the show. It's just
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Speaker 1: my Instagram dms are open. We will start here with
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Speaker 1: Nick Big Bears fan. I want to know what your
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Speaker 1: take is on Kleb this year and what you think
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Speaker 1: is ceiling and floor is in the upcoming seasons of
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Speaker 1: his career with Ben Johnson. Also just want to say
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Speaker 1: we need desperately, we desperately need another pass rusher. So
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Speaker 1: before we talk about Kleb, I do think it was
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Speaker 1: pretty clear watching that Niner game, like you guys have
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Speaker 1: an abundance of skill guys, right, you just draft Luthor
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Speaker 1: in the second round. Clearly the head coach likes him
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Speaker 1: the previous you know year, you draft Rome in the
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Speaker 1: top ten, so you got multiple wide receivers with DJ
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Speaker 1: already under contract, You draft Loveland, you already have Cobat,
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Speaker 1: like you can trade to me one of the white
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna trade Luthor Burdon but between Rome and DJ,
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Speaker 1: I think you can flip one of those guys for
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Speaker 1: defensive help, and to me, that's what I would imagine
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Speaker 1: they do this offseason, so they use one of those
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Speaker 1: offensive pieces. Again, I don't know Ben Johnson, it would
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Speaker 1: be whoever he likes more. And clearly he likes Luthor
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Speaker 1: Burdon a lot because you were at Collinsworth on that
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Speaker 1: Sunday night game. Like, obviously it sounds like Chris likes him,
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Speaker 1: but pretty clearly he's getting it from the Bears, which
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Speaker 1: I would imagine the offensive coaching staff like, we like
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Speaker 1: this guy, and honestly in that game it looks like
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown or something. I think what Caleb is simple.
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Speaker 1: The high end plays are elite. There is no better
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Speaker 1: highlight guy in the league. He made a couple throws
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Speaker 1: even in that Niner game. One of the touchdowns on
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Speaker 1: the penalty I think it would have been to Loveland
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Speaker 1: in the front of the end zone was like a
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Speaker 1: forty plus yard throw. There was no arc on it.
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Speaker 1: That reminded me of far Of in his prime. Reminded
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Speaker 1: me like Michael Vick. His playmaking is elite and his
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Speaker 1: athleticism he I don't think people quite realized how fast
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Speaker 1: he was when he was coming out of college, and
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Speaker 1: it clearly like scrambling ability, scrambled to run. All that
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Speaker 1: stuff's elete. But my buddy guy who actually I want
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Speaker 1: to say narrate, I always forget the word, but he
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Speaker 1: wed me and my wife right. He was the the MC.
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Speaker 1: But that's the wrong word. Early in the morning, mine's
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Speaker 1: not pistons aren't firing upstairs. And he's an elite play
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Speaker 1: by play guy and he's been doing forty Niner games
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Speaker 1: this year, and he did the Bears game because you know,
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Speaker 1: Greg Papa, legendary bearry guy, has been sick. He's a
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Speaker 1: good buddy ours. I fucking love Greg Papa, longtime Raider guy.
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Speaker 1: Him and Mark Davis like myself, you know, butting heads
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Speaker 1: a little bit and went their separate ways. And he's
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Speaker 1: on the greener pastures. And Greg's been sick this year,
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Speaker 1: battling leukemia, fighting like you know, the tough SB that
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Speaker 1: he is, and guys filling in for him calling the
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Speaker 1: play by play. The voice of the forty nine is
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Speaker 1: called the game. And we were texting the next day
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Speaker 1: and he was like, we did a radio show. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's the guy that got me in this business. Without him,
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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe I'd be digging ditches right now. He's like,
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Speaker 1: do you know how many incompletions he had on that
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Speaker 1: final drive? I was like, well, there are fifteen plays
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Speaker 1: three two three not if you count the last play
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Speaker 1: of the game. He's like eight, So I think part
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Speaker 1: of it. And there were some plays in that game
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Speaker 1: where collins Worth is like, it's kind of crazy. There
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Speaker 1: was a roll out to his right where Loveland. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if it was quite a broken play, but
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Speaker 1: it was wide open, and it's a play that good
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks just just kind of lobby to him. And I
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Speaker 1: do think right now it's pretty clear, which is crazy,
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Speaker 1: because he's had these crazy comebacks. He's made I mean
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Speaker 1: huge plays in big moments, which is always key. There's
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Speaker 1: a touch element to his like layup throws that do
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Speaker 1: not exist right now. And to become an elite player,
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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to do the layups with your
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Speaker 1: eyes closed or else. If it's just gonna be the
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Speaker 1: high end, which is fine, you become a roller coaster ride, which,
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Speaker 1: let's face if he can be now, I think the
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Speaker 1: number one thing. However, this season ends, and I'm recording
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Speaker 1: this obviously before the Lions game, which I don't think
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Speaker 1: is gonna be easy because you know the Lions are
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Speaker 1: gonna try and then whatever happens to the playoffs. To me,
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Speaker 1: the number one goal and I would imagine for Ben
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Speaker 1: Johnson and you know what, he's gonna harp on over
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Speaker 1: the next like six seven months in the offseason, we
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Speaker 1: got to work on the touch throws in terms of
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Speaker 1: just like wheel routes, boom, you know, just touch balls,
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Speaker 1: because so every once in a while he has it,
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Speaker 1: but he's very consistent with it. If he ever got that,
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Speaker 1: he'd be a borderline, you know, top five six player
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Speaker 1: in the league at his position. You know, right now
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Speaker 1: he has top five plays, but over the course of
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Speaker 1: the game he can be really inaccurate, which is which
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Speaker 1: is crazy. And I think part of that gets to
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Speaker 1: he's like a pitcher. He's throwing fastball, fastball, fastball, and
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have an off speed dialed in yet if
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Speaker 1: he's able to dial into that, ind there's no guarantee,
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Speaker 1: right he can be, you know, on a high end player,
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Speaker 1: and you know he can be right now because when
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Speaker 1: he's on, he's unstoppable to me, Like, if he just
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Speaker 1: stayed like this, he'd kind of be like Cam Newton,
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Speaker 1: He's awesome, would be awesome. His down would be a
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Speaker 1: lot of inaccuracies. But I think it's gone way better
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Speaker 1: than I thought. You know, I was like, I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's going to work. But his high end is
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Speaker 1: that good, so it can mask, you know, the plays
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Speaker 1: that just don't get made when guys wide open. Now
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Speaker 1: they've had drops. But there's gonna be no disputing his
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Speaker 1: offensive coaching and his skill talent around him and his
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Speaker 1: run game. The defense needs to improve. What is one
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Speaker 1: non quarterback position the Chargers must over invest in to
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Speaker 1: maximize Herbert the O line, the pass rush, or secondary.
7:19
Speaker 1: Also for someone starting a football oriented podcast at twenty
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Speaker 1: eight with no media background, what's the biggest mistake you
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Speaker 1: see people make early? What's the best way to stand
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Speaker 1: out in an oversaturated sports podcast media background? I'd larduse
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Speaker 1: irrelevant Now. I mean it's never mattered less, so your
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Speaker 1: background in twenty twenty six in terms of if you
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Speaker 1: want to get in the space on YouTube, social media,
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Speaker 1: it's irrelevant. It really is. I'm probably a bad guy
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Speaker 1: to ask for, like how to quote unquote stand out
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Speaker 1: like I'm not a big gimmick guy, which I again,
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Speaker 1: I just kind of talk, you know. I just I'm
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Speaker 1: a big believer like people that I like, I can
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Speaker 1: just use like and I'm a consumer first. I've always
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Speaker 1: said this before I ever got into football, before I
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Speaker 1: ever got into talking, I loved football and I loved
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Speaker 1: sports radio. I remember listening to Jim Rome when I
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Speaker 1: was in junior high. I remember having a yellow Walkman
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Speaker 1: with Navine Daftari, who I played high school football with.
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Speaker 1: You went on to play at UC Davis. I think
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Speaker 1: he's a really successful guy now, smart guy. Remember listening
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Speaker 1: to this, we both had Walkman's listen to Rome, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, I just I loved the medium of sports talk,
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Speaker 1: and obviously that's changed dramatically. You couldn't pay me to
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Speaker 1: listen to sports radio anymore though I loved it growing up,
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Speaker 1: because now I'm more of a podcast YouTube, you know,
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Speaker 1: content creator guy. But I personality sell me like I
8:50
Speaker 1: don't need like I don't even know what when we're
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Speaker 1: talking sports. But I like people that just big personalities. Also,
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Speaker 1: like don't be afraid to say some crazy shit. And
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Speaker 1: I don't mean, like just say it to say it,
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Speaker 1: but like we all have thoughts like, oh, this might
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Speaker 1: piss some people off, like who gives a fly? And
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Speaker 1: you know what, none of those people care about you.
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Speaker 1: So it's like you and what I'm talking about is
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Speaker 1: like comments, reaction online. None of that stuff matters. I
9:16
Speaker 1: promise you it is irrelevant. It's never been more irrelevant.
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Speaker 1: And I believe that to my course, some people might
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Speaker 1: push back. But whenever I see, well what about the comments,
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Speaker 1: I know you don't know what you do, so you
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Speaker 1: can't worry about the way people are gonna react. Also,
9:33
Speaker 1: for a while, no one's probably gonna watch, so it's
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Speaker 1: gonna take a while. You gotta be in it for
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Speaker 1: the long haul. It's a big picture project. I just
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Speaker 1: think the Chargers I'm having got a lot of good players.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've drafted offensive lineman, they drafted a running
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Speaker 1: back in the first round, they got their quarterback. They
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Speaker 1: probably need, you know, Khalil max Old pretty sure. He's
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Speaker 1: on a one year contract. You know, Derwin James is
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Speaker 1: a lot of trade on the tires. I would say,
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Speaker 1: defensive help. We'll just I just keep building. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we know how Harvball's gonna play, They're gonna be good
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Speaker 1: on defense, They're gonna want to run the ball. They've
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Speaker 1: definitely become more of a passing offense because I think
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Speaker 1: he realizes he has this quarterback. But I would just
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Speaker 1: be like in Harbaugh, we trust. That would be my mindset,
10:15
Speaker 1: because you know what, I say this all the time.
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Speaker 1: I get he beat him in the Super Bowl, and
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Speaker 1: he did. And listen, you beat him in the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna say? Would anyone argue that Jim
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Speaker 1: Harbaugh's better than John Harball? I mean seriously, and this
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Speaker 1: is not a shot at John Harpe. I think John
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Speaker 1: Harbor is a good coach, but Jim's an all timer.
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Speaker 1: Like no one goes back and forth between college and
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Speaker 1: the pros and kicks ass. It doesn't happen. It's like
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Speaker 1: a small lists. Guys have tried and they get embarrassed.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, Urban Meyer are one of the greatest
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Speaker 1: college coaches of all time. If it wasn't for Nick Saban,
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Speaker 1: he'd be known as the best college coach of his generation.
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Speaker 1: Did not last a year, did not last a year.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lurry had big Dom grab all Chip and Chip
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Speaker 1: Kelly was, you know, probably a top two or three
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Speaker 1: coach at the time, besides Sabin and Urban in college,
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Speaker 1: Big Dam had to pack all a shit and escort
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Speaker 1: him out of the building. So it's like, no one
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Speaker 1: wins it both. If Nick Sirianni were to get fired
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Speaker 1: and another team hire him to be there, would another
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Speaker 1: team hire him to be their head coach? We all
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Speaker 1: know the answer to that. I mean, we just do
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Speaker 1: His record's awesome, he's been good. I think the reality
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Speaker 1: is most people give his GM the majority of the credit.
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Speaker 1: He has a stacked roster and his owner is willing
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Speaker 1: to open the checkbook and buy, like Vic Fangio just
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Speaker 1: didn't randomly come. You know, Vic Fangio ain't working for
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Speaker 1: the for the minimum. Would Nick Sirianni be hired as
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Speaker 1: a head coach? I see no chance. He'd probably get
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Speaker 1: an interview, I'm sure based on the agent. But I
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Speaker 1: don't see him becoming a head coach. I mean he's
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Speaker 1: he's like, organization doesn't allow him to call plays. It's like,
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Speaker 1: well they're offense, sucks. Well, he's an offensive guy, so yeah,
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Speaker 1: we just don't let him do that. I'm like, well,
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Speaker 1: and again I'm not trying to like do I say
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Speaker 1: it all the time, bottom line business, he wins a
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Speaker 1: lot more than he loses. But just a unique situation.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how else to say it.
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Speaker 1: It's just a unique situation. We're gonna have to have
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Speaker 1: some serious conversations about Sirianni versus Sean McVeigh. After the
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Speaker 1: Eagles beat the Rams in the playoffs this year. Again,
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Speaker 1: that will be Sirianni's four straight victory over McVeigh, including
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Speaker 1: two playoff eliminations. I mean, there's a chance they played
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Speaker 1: each other in the first round. Both have two Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl appearances with one victory, and Sirianni has owned him
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Speaker 1: head to head, yet McVeigh gets his ass kicked kissed.
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Speaker 1: This is again, if you gave the GMS thirty two
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Speaker 1: of them, if you gave owners thirty two of them
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Speaker 1: the opportunity, if you gave fan bases the opportunity, would
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Speaker 1: one of the two guys, what would it be? What
13:07
Speaker 1: would it be? It'd be thirty two to nothing. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. Like this. One guy
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Speaker 1: can be successful in his situation and go. No one
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Speaker 1: would choose him over Sean McVay. Not a fucking soul.
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Speaker 1: with my second kid. We're looking to take a trip
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Speaker 1: to Scottsdale, debating between staying at the Four Seasons or
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Speaker 1: the Phoenician. My man, that's living well, what would you recommend? Also,
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Speaker 1: I'm almost positive Petulu Patolo, the the Eagles OC. I
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Speaker 1: know how to say it when I don't look at it,
15:34
Speaker 1: and when I look at it, it froze me off.
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Speaker 1: Kevin Petola will be fired at the end of the year.
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Speaker 1: Who do you think would be the best to replace him.
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Speaker 1: I think a Josh McDaniels type, someone who never wants
15:45
Speaker 1: to be a head coach again. We actually had lunch,
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Speaker 1: you know when you I got married into Four Seasons
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Speaker 1: in Nashville, and it's incredible. It's like one of the
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Speaker 1: nicer hotels I've ever been at, but a lot of
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Speaker 1: Four Seasons, like aren't the one in Scottsdale. It's probably
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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes away from me. I think it's one of
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Speaker 1: the original ones ever built. It's kind of an old
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Speaker 1: it's not your typical like glitz and glamour. It's kind
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Speaker 1: of old school. If it said just Marriott in front
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Speaker 1: of it, you would not notice. So it's it's kind
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Speaker 1: of up in the in the rocks, in the mountains.
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Speaker 1: It's cool, but I don't think it's quite you know
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Speaker 1: when you say the four Seasons in that brand, the Phoenician.
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Speaker 1: If you like golf, there's a cool golf course there.
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Speaker 1: I think Phoenicians pretty cool, so I probably it just
16:32
Speaker 1: depends what you want. Phoenicians a little more closer to
16:34
Speaker 1: the action, like downtown Scottsdale old town as the kids
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Speaker 1: would call it. You know, North Scottsdale's more for us
16:41
Speaker 1: old folks, a little quieter up here. So I don't
16:45
Speaker 1: think you do wrong by either ones. But again, if
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Speaker 1: you're I don't know what the prices are for the
16:50
Speaker 1: four seasons, if they are normal four seasons prices, you
16:54
Speaker 1: might be a little underwhelmed what you're typically getting when
16:57
Speaker 1: you stay at one of those properties. I don't even
17:02
Speaker 1: know who that offensive coach would be. It's pretty rare
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Speaker 1: that you find a Josh McDaniels, like, yeah, I'm one
17:09
Speaker 1: of the best offensive coordinators in the league, but no
17:12
Speaker 1: one will ever hire me to be a head coach. Again,
17:14
Speaker 1: I think this gets back to Sirianni. He's it's just
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Speaker 1: a unique situation. I just like, let's say Mike McDaniel,
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Speaker 1: who I don't think is gonna get fired, But let's
17:23
Speaker 1: say he got fired. If he was unreal, he would
17:28
Speaker 1: get another shot. Right. Let's say Kevin Stefanski was fired,
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Speaker 1: and everyone's like he's an automatic to get another job,
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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Like the media likes Kevin Stefanski
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Speaker 1: a lot more than us. When we're watching him play,
17:41
Speaker 1: You know because like, oh, the Browns have no players. No,
17:44
Speaker 1: actually they got a lot of good players. It's like,
17:46
Speaker 1: why is coaching year? It's like, I don't know. He's fine.
17:50
Speaker 1: And again I feel like I'm shitting on these guys.
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Speaker 1: I got no issue with him. I met Kevin Stefanski
17:54
Speaker 1: wants to bullshit with me. It's cool. I just think
17:57
Speaker 1: sometimes when we annoint that like Kevin Stefanski gets talked
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Speaker 1: about sometimes, like listen, I've earned some respect for Kevin O'Connell.
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Speaker 1: I really have their season. You know what a good coach.
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Speaker 1: The difference between like high end coaches and just the
18:10
Speaker 1: middle of the road, it's when your season can get derailed,
18:14
Speaker 1: right like listen, obviously the chief season got derailed. But
18:17
Speaker 1: Andy's resume speak for yourself. Kevin O'Connell's never won a
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Speaker 1: playoff game, and he gets put along with Kyle and
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Speaker 1: Sean whose resumes a lot longer and won some playoff games.
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Speaker 1: And this year it felt like, I mean a couple
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Speaker 1: months ago, it's like they're gonna win like four or
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Speaker 1: five games, and you look up, if they win this weekend,
18:34
Speaker 1: they will be nine and eight. Like that's with with
18:37
Speaker 1: Bosmer and JJ fucking Carson Wentz. I'm pretty impressed. Now
18:43
Speaker 1: we'll see with the Brian Flores situation. I like Brian's
18:46
Speaker 1: agent right now. It's like, listen, I'm trying to get paid,
18:50
Speaker 1: and I got the Cowboys who would throw eber Fluse,
18:54
Speaker 1: you know, in one of those oil rigs tomorrow. So
18:58
Speaker 1: it's like the Wolves will spend, but the going rate
19:01
Speaker 1: for a guy like if I'm Flores and I'm clearly
19:04
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. I
19:06
Speaker 1: just saw Chip Kelly scam the Raiders for six million
19:08
Speaker 1: dollars a year, Like I know the other top defensive coordinators,
19:11
Speaker 1: Spags and Fangio are making that ballpark like minimum. I want,
19:17
Speaker 1: you know, three year deal. I don't know, eighteen twenty
19:20
Speaker 1: million dollars it's going right or else I'll just go
19:24
Speaker 1: somewhere else someone will pay me. This is all monopoly
19:28
Speaker 1: money to these owners, Like twenty million dollars of them
19:30
Speaker 1: is like, you know, a rotational linebacker. My question is,
19:35
Speaker 1: do you think Caleb Williams is this generation's Russell Wilson.
19:38
Speaker 1: I heard Colin compare him to Josh Allen, and they
19:41
Speaker 1: share they share some similarities, but I think Russ would
19:44
Speaker 1: fit Caleb's comp better. They both have polarizing personalities. Both
19:48
Speaker 1: are undersize, have strong arms, and aren't the most accurate
19:52
Speaker 1: throwers of the ball. Both can command a systematic offense.
19:56
Speaker 1: Caleb with Chicago and Russ with the lob Seahawks. Neither
19:59
Speaker 1: is seemingly a prototypical pocket passer. What makes them special
20:03
Speaker 1: is more their ability to avoid sacks, extend plays with
20:06
Speaker 1: their legs, and throw the deep ball. I feel like
20:08
Speaker 1: in his peak Russell Wilson and again I mean Caleb's
20:12
Speaker 1: in his second year had much more touch, and on
20:16
Speaker 1: the flip side, Caleb's better in the pocket than Russell was.
20:20
Speaker 1: So I think there are some similarities that They're playmaking
20:23
Speaker 1: is pretty elite, but I think one like I felt
20:27
Speaker 1: like Russell like would hit wheel routes with his eyes closed.
20:30
Speaker 1: So and I think Caleb, you know, Russell thrown over
20:34
Speaker 1: the middle field not great. I think Caleb's actually not
20:36
Speaker 1: bad at that. So I there are some similarities, but
20:39
Speaker 1: there are also some differences. I do think his comp
20:43
Speaker 1: is closer to Josh in the sense of like crazy playmaking.
20:48
Speaker 1: He just the touch is something like that pass Josh
20:52
Speaker 1: missed to win the game against the Eagles, like you
20:55
Speaker 1: can see Caleb, you know, it's like there's some balls
20:57
Speaker 1: that you're like, how did you just miss that? But
21:01
Speaker 1: I can live with some of the inaccuracies when you're
21:03
Speaker 1: making sweet plays, right like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady
21:07
Speaker 1: or Aaron Rodgers would make that play with one arm
21:11
Speaker 1: tie behind their back, on their knees with their eyes closed.
21:15
Speaker 1: But they have to make that like that's especially Peyton
21:17
Speaker 1: and Tom or Philip Rivers, Like those throwers are their
21:20
Speaker 1: bread and butter. They can't do the miraculous shit. So
21:24
Speaker 1: there's always kind of a give and take with anything
21:26
Speaker 1: you could argue in life, let alone a quarterback. Do
21:29
Speaker 1: you think the Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley has ruined
21:33
Speaker 1: his chances of getting a head coaching job after Saturday
21:36
Speaker 1: Nights to Bockle First King Henry the guy ran for
21:40
Speaker 1: two hundred yards and four touchdowns. I mean, what are
21:43
Speaker 1: we doing without Parsons? The defense feels inept. It usually
21:47
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. It just doesn't, you know. I
21:51
Speaker 1: think sometimes when you're sitting on your couch or you're
21:53
Speaker 1: reacting and you witness that game, you're like, this is
21:57
Speaker 1: an embarrassment, but it's like you don't break up after
22:02
Speaker 1: one weird fight, right, there is a body of work,
22:07
Speaker 1: and I just think that he's gonna get a little
22:11
Speaker 1: bit of a pass. He was highly thought of before
22:14
Speaker 1: their players were dropping like flies. Obviously pretty embarrassing night
22:19
Speaker 1: to do it on. You know, some of these nights
22:21
Speaker 1: on national television feel worse, like my guy Ryan Day
22:26
Speaker 1: against Mario because everyone's watching, right, So I don't think
22:32
Speaker 1: it has much impact at all, to be honest with you,
22:35
Speaker 1: if he interviews well people like him. It's also like
22:39
Speaker 1: some guys go number three in the draft, not because
22:43
Speaker 1: you know there's some all time great prospect because the
22:45
Speaker 1: draft sucks, or in some great drafts they might have
22:48
Speaker 1: gone twelve, which is still not bad. But like sometimes
22:53
Speaker 1: you know, Micah Parsons doesn't crack the top ten. You know,
22:56
Speaker 1: sometimes these guys, it's just based on supply and demand.
23:00
Speaker 1: So part of the supply this year doesn't look great.
23:03
Speaker 1: You know, Marcus Freeman, a lot of people thought he
23:07
Speaker 1: was gonna get one of the jobs. Well he just
23:08
Speaker 1: announced I'm staying at Notre Dame. So you look around,
23:11
Speaker 1: you're like Robert Sala, you know, Clint Kubiak. I mean,
23:17
Speaker 1: I don't know, just not a great crew. Brandon Staley
23:24
Speaker 1: question for the back, do you think the Ravens would
23:28
Speaker 1: trade Lamar? You don't think the Ravens would trade Lamar?
23:32
Speaker 1: But what if the Raiders offered the number one pick
23:36
Speaker 1: and Max Crosby. Would that be enough or would it
23:40
Speaker 1: have to be multiple ones and twos plus a high
23:42
Speaker 1: level player? Well, think about it like this. If there's
23:46
Speaker 1: a quarterback that is viewed as, you know, a top
23:49
Speaker 1: ten potential starting quarterback, right, let's think of the last
23:53
Speaker 1: ten years Caleb was viewed that way. Cam was not.
23:59
Speaker 1: I would say ra May and Jayden Daniels were very,
24:02
Speaker 1: very highly thought of. Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence. That pick
24:08
Speaker 1: is worth multiple ones because so if I traded you
24:12
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick with the opportunity to get
24:15
Speaker 1: Caleb Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Fernando Mendoza. Again, I'm recording
24:21
Speaker 1: this before the Indiana game, so maybe who knows how
24:24
Speaker 1: he looks. I'm excited to watch, but that pick or
24:29
Speaker 1: Dante Moore, I'm doing it before the Oregon game as well. Whoever,
24:32
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback prospect is because a team would trade
24:36
Speaker 1: from four to one and give you pick four in
24:39
Speaker 1: next year's one. So that pick in itself is not
24:42
Speaker 1: just one first round pick, right like the team with
24:46
Speaker 1: the twentieth first round the pick twenty and I have
24:49
Speaker 1: picked one. It's the value chart. My pick at one
24:53
Speaker 1: is worth way more than pick twenty. I live in
24:56
Speaker 1: a house here. Some people up the road also live
24:59
Speaker 1: in homes. Their homes are worth a little bit more.
25:02
Speaker 1: So I think part of it is the value of
25:05
Speaker 1: that pick. Now, here's the thing with Lamar, I don't buddy,
25:11
Speaker 1: I used to know coach there is not there when
25:14
Speaker 1: he was there, and he was part of the good
25:15
Speaker 1: team a couple of years ago, I'd never heard a
25:17
Speaker 1: bad word like they love the guy. Now. Part of
25:20
Speaker 1: it is like when things are going well, me to dude,
25:23
Speaker 1: you know this just started dating some girl in the
25:25
Speaker 1: honeymoon phase, like life's great chime in after a couple
25:29
Speaker 1: of years, tell me how it's going Things change, right,
25:32
Speaker 1: And anytime in football you lose and things don't go
25:36
Speaker 1: well and I pay you a lot of money, things
25:38
Speaker 1: get weird and then you factor in injuries, which again
25:41
Speaker 1: are no one's fault, but people start blaming people, and
25:45
Speaker 1: clearly something's going on there. Again, I have no inside information,
25:48
Speaker 1: but there's enough smoke, like there's got to be a
25:51
Speaker 1: little fire in there. My issue would be this, if
25:55
Speaker 1: you trade Lamar Jackson and he maintains being a high
25:58
Speaker 1: end player for the next five years, you're not replacing that.
26:02
Speaker 1: The chance is that for Nando Mendoza is ever seventy
26:07
Speaker 1: five percent as good as the high end Lamar Jackson,
26:11
Speaker 1: would you'd bet against it now. If he is good,
26:15
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer cause you get back to Crosby,
26:18
Speaker 1: who's an elite player, fits right in with the Ravens culture.
26:21
Speaker 1: You get Fernando Mendoza, who is way cheaper, and within
26:24
Speaker 1: a couple of years you can rebuild your team because
26:27
Speaker 1: you have all this extra money. And if you're the Raiders,
26:29
Speaker 1: it's definitely a no brainer if you need like, the
26:35
Speaker 1: Raiders got nothing. They're an unwatchable product, so you get
26:39
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson boom. Since city people are paying attention now,
26:42
Speaker 1: I also think if you're the Raiders, you better be
26:44
Speaker 1: sure if you were gonna make that move, like how
26:46
Speaker 1: much you like for Nando Mendoza or Dante more whoever
26:49
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft. It's it's type conversation where no one
26:54
Speaker 1: hangs up on each other. Or again, assuming they would
26:57
Speaker 1: trade Lamar Jackson. If you're not in the business trading Jackson,
27:00
Speaker 1: you're not interested. But again, sometimes like people are ready
27:03
Speaker 1: to pivot, right, John Schneider is ready to pivot Russell
27:07
Speaker 1: Wilson for Josh Allen. Whatever year that was twenty eighteen,
27:10
Speaker 1: wanted to trade Russell Wilson the Cleveland Browns, and Russell
27:13
Speaker 1: rightfully so said I'm not going to Cleveland, not doing it.
27:17
Speaker 1: It was a smart move, But John was also on
27:20
Speaker 1: the right guy. What do you think of a bijon
27:35
Speaker 1: trade or him just not re upping with the Falcons.
27:38
Speaker 1: He's more athletic than Tomlinson. Put him on the Texans,
27:41
Speaker 1: Commanders and Bengals, and that would be a number one
27:43
Speaker 1: offense after I mean that, that was as good of
27:46
Speaker 1: an offensive game that's been played this year any position, quarterback, wide, receiver,
27:51
Speaker 1: left tackle, that's as good as it gets. His high
27:55
Speaker 1: end talent is so good. You just I said earlier
27:58
Speaker 1: when they were so shitty, I was like, what's the
28:00
Speaker 1: point of this? But now that I mean, all of
28:03
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're eight nine. I think the question mark
28:05
Speaker 1: is healthy. Kirk Cousins is better than what we saw
28:09
Speaker 1: with Pennix. Now, the problem is, is Cousins a forty
28:13
Speaker 1: plus million dollar quarterback. That's contract he's on. They're in
28:16
Speaker 1: a weird spot. But running back's my favorite position. I
28:23
Speaker 1: think that and linebacker encompassed the most right. It asked
28:27
Speaker 1: you to literally do everything on the field. You got
28:30
Speaker 1: to run between the tackles, run outside the tackles, catch
28:32
Speaker 1: the ball, block break tackles. You're you know, a guy
28:37
Speaker 1: like that can become the entire offense. But I don't
28:41
Speaker 1: think they can trade him. He's not a tradable player
28:47
Speaker 1: if you're a serious organization, especially it'd be one thing
28:50
Speaker 1: if he was doing that and they were a two
28:51
Speaker 1: win team, they were eight wins, and you look back
28:53
Speaker 1: on it, they just I mean, they beat a lot
28:56
Speaker 1: of good teams. He's lost to some terrible teams. You
29:02
Speaker 1: just can't trade him. Yet they can't do it. I
29:07
Speaker 1: brought that up a while ago, but it just can't happen.
29:12
Speaker 1: Question would it be crazy for the Colts to hire
29:14
Speaker 1: Rivers as the head coach, Let him pick a GM
29:17
Speaker 1: and roll the dice. He definitely has knowledge and leadership.
29:20
Speaker 1: Stiking is a good OC, but not a head coach.
29:23
Speaker 1: He's five and thirteen in one score games against teams
29:26
Speaker 1: with better than five hundred records and has had a
29:28
Speaker 1: lot of games when the Colts haven't shown up, like
29:30
Speaker 1: the Steeler games this year, in Giants game last year. Uh.
29:37
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be crazy at all. Would
29:38
Speaker 1: I rather have Shane Stikeen as my head coach of
29:40
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. I'd rather Philip Rivers. I think the culture
29:44
Speaker 1: in a weird position because you could always make excuses
29:47
Speaker 1: like well, this quarterback got hurt and this thing happened.
29:52
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. We have a long track
29:54
Speaker 1: record now, Chris Ballard. I read this article the other night.
29:57
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep, Like four in the morning, I roll over,
29:59
Speaker 1: grab my phone. Not a great habit. But when I
30:01
Speaker 1: do that, I try not to scroll. I just try
30:03
Speaker 1: to go to like Wall Street Journal or the Athletic
30:05
Speaker 1: and read something. So I go to the Athletic and
30:08
Speaker 1: I see this article about Carly or say Gordon, the owner,
30:13
Speaker 1: who clearly these people like a lot, and she an'even
30:16
Speaker 1: like a cool girl or lady or woman or owner
30:19
Speaker 1: whateverever you wanna call her. And she's impressive, like she's
30:23
Speaker 1: she's trying really hard, even if you want to make
30:25
Speaker 1: fun of her a little bit for the sideline stuff,
30:27
Speaker 1: which Shane Syke and Chris Ballard went out of their
30:30
Speaker 1: way to say they love it. Of course they do.
30:31
Speaker 1: She signs her chicks, But is she just gonna be
30:36
Speaker 1: cool just because she likes them? And one thing she
30:38
Speaker 1: mentioned in They're like, you can't be afraid of change.
30:40
Speaker 1: Sometimes it is exciting, like they don't win ever important games,
30:46
Speaker 1: and now this year the Jags immediately turned it around
30:48
Speaker 1: like that, So now you could argue, well they were
30:51
Speaker 1: eating too with Daniel Jones. Okay, so what are you
30:53
Speaker 1: gonna do? Danie Jones got a broken leg and a
30:55
Speaker 1: torn achilles. You're gonna give him a big extension? Is
30:57
Speaker 1: he just gonna sign like one year ten million dollars? Again?
31:00
Speaker 1: He signed one year fourteen last year and then had
31:02
Speaker 1: a great season before he got injured. So what are
31:05
Speaker 1: you gonna do. You're gonna let him one year thirty
31:07
Speaker 1: five million dollars. You're gonna do that for him? What
31:10
Speaker 1: are your options? Anthey Rigidson was a miss you're clearly
31:12
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of him this offseason. They're kind of
31:15
Speaker 1: at a crossroads. And you know, her dad was nuts.
31:20
Speaker 1: Her grandpa was even crazier. I mean, you watched that
31:22
Speaker 1: Lway Doc jack Elway was right, We're not sending my
31:26
Speaker 1: son to the Colts, and you're like, DH, no, that's
31:28
Speaker 1: a little And it turns out Ursay's dad was like
31:31
Speaker 1: taking headsets from offensive coordinators in the middle of the game, which,
31:35
Speaker 1: honestly sometimes I miss you know, as this sport and
31:39
Speaker 1: sports in general, becomes more and more corporate and just
31:43
Speaker 1: there's so much money line once. I was thinking about
31:46
Speaker 1: this the other day, like whenever Jerry Jones passes away,
31:48
Speaker 1: most of these owners don't say shit. They got way
31:51
Speaker 1: too much to lose. Like I kind of missed the
31:53
Speaker 1: days of just you know, Papa Ersay or George Steinbrenner
31:58
Speaker 1: or Eddie de Bartelow brown bag and a governor like
32:02
Speaker 1: we just had, Like there were just some wild cards.
32:05
Speaker 1: Like the wild cards are kind of done. It's like,
32:08
Speaker 1: what's the craziest Steve Balmer made some fake company about
32:11
Speaker 1: planting trees to give Kawhi money. It's like, oh, like
32:15
Speaker 1: I'd rather have some guys that would say something, and
32:18
Speaker 1: those days just feel over, which kind of makes me sad. Okay,
32:24
Speaker 1: what on this? I thought Raheem was gone until I
32:26
Speaker 1: heard Achemin contradict that tonight. He seems like a great
32:29
Speaker 1: locker room guy, but struggles on the sideline clock management
32:32
Speaker 1: made little changes to stop the backslide out of the playoffs.
32:36
Speaker 1: I think with the talent, we have an insane it's
32:40
Speaker 1: insane to get eliminated from the playoff race on week fourteen,
32:44
Speaker 1: I would agree, what's your opinion? Run it back with
32:48
Speaker 1: hopefully Mattie Ice playing some role. I think the hard
32:51
Speaker 1: part I would argue about business in any industry, whether
32:56
Speaker 1: you're talking billion dollar business or whether you're talking to
32:58
Speaker 1: mom and pop shop, is if you go, I'm not
33:01
Speaker 1: sure this guy is good enough, but you really like
33:03
Speaker 1: them or you know. Part of it is like they
33:06
Speaker 1: always say, and Colin used to say this, like remove emotion,
33:10
Speaker 1: separate the emotion, Right, that's what you have to do
33:13
Speaker 1: to make a good decision. That can be easier said
33:15
Speaker 1: than done. Like it's easier for me to throw away
33:18
Speaker 1: some you know, like material things don't mean that much
33:21
Speaker 1: to me. It's like I'm done with this couch. Couch
33:23
Speaker 1: means see, you don't with this pair of shoes, right,
33:26
Speaker 1: I'm done with whatever. Not a car guy, but like
33:28
Speaker 1: the car means nothing to me, Like get a new car,
33:31
Speaker 1: get rid of this car again. They're way too expensive
33:33
Speaker 1: right now. But you know what I mean. I do
33:35
Speaker 1: think when you're talking people, it's easy to get rid
33:38
Speaker 1: of Brian Kelly. Why he was an asshole. They couldn't
33:41
Speaker 1: stand him, They couldn't get rid of him fast enough.
33:45
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley has the same record as Lane Kiffing and
33:49
Speaker 1: Clay Helton through four years. But you know what, he's
33:51
Speaker 1: more likable. Not that he's a big personality, but you know,
33:54
Speaker 1: people have no issue with him clearly inside the building.
33:56
Speaker 1: And he's expensive to get rid of. Matt Rule. Matt
33:59
Speaker 1: Rules going that well in Nebraska given the hype, right,
34:03
Speaker 1: given a guy like this, guy's gonna go to Penn State.
34:05
Speaker 1: People like him. So Raheem Morris, that Shanahan crew, he
34:11
Speaker 1: is like the leader of the crew. They love him.
34:14
Speaker 1: He is universally loved by that crew. It's like Sean
34:17
Speaker 1: mcvay's best friend, Kyle Shanahan's been saying for years, I've
34:20
Speaker 1: been trying to hire him, but it's never really like
34:22
Speaker 1: that they love that guy. So that's a positive thing, right,
34:27
Speaker 1: Like part of the reason the Belichick thing ended so
34:32
Speaker 1: just ugly for a guy with his resume, no one
34:34
Speaker 1: could stand him. He wasn't a likable guy. When Andy
34:38
Speaker 1: Reid got fired from the Philadelphia Eagles, he did like
34:41
Speaker 1: a goodbye in the cafeteria to the entire organization. So
34:45
Speaker 1: part of being a human being is like try to
34:48
Speaker 1: be a good person, Like we're gonna have some core
34:52
Speaker 1: tenets with my young son whenever he becomes like able
34:56
Speaker 1: to talk, communicate and like treating people well is gonna
34:59
Speaker 1: be at the top of list, because I think it's easy.
35:03
Speaker 1: You know, once some people are just dicks, but especially
35:05
Speaker 1: once you start having success, like well, I'm untouchable, and
35:08
Speaker 1: then you can just become an asshole because your true
35:10
Speaker 1: colors come out. Like Belichick's never ran from it, like
35:14
Speaker 1: he's a dick. Like it's well established and Raheem Morris
35:18
Speaker 1: like one thing that is saving him and put him
35:20
Speaker 1: in a position where it's like, hey, he can people
35:22
Speaker 1: really like him, players like him, other coaches like him. Obviously,
35:26
Speaker 1: ownership and fro an office likes him, but he's in
35:29
Speaker 1: a business where is he good enough? And you start
35:31
Speaker 1: looking around his division, you go, well, Dave Canalis, you know,
35:36
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore might have a little something with Tyler Shuck
35:40
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, you know he ain't exactly you know, going
35:43
Speaker 1: up against you know, Bill Walsh, Bill Parcells here. So
35:47
Speaker 1: my guess would be this late surge, with how well
35:51
Speaker 1: they're and hard they're playing, probably survive another year, would
35:55
Speaker 1: be my guests. Again, don't have any inside information, don't
35:58
Speaker 1: even know the guy, but I've just I've never heard
36:00
Speaker 1: bad thing about it. People really really like them, clearly solid,
36:03
Speaker 1: but I'm with you, just feels like they weren't buttoned up.
36:08
Speaker 1: It's also, you know some of their games the Rams
36:11
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football or the Bills they play the
36:13
Speaker 1: Bills on Monday Night Football or is that Sunday night football.
36:16
Speaker 1: It's easy to get up for those games, right it.
36:19
Speaker 1: Part of being a coach is like, can you get
36:21
Speaker 1: up for the four win team? Can you get up
36:24
Speaker 1: for the team the ten am kickoff West Coast time
36:27
Speaker 1: against some crappy opponent. It's a little more difficult to
36:30
Speaker 1: do that, and they've struggled with that because when you
36:33
Speaker 1: have a guy as good as Bijon with some of
36:35
Speaker 1: their other offensive weapons, and they listen James Pierce, I
36:40
Speaker 1: forget the guy's name, the Oregon defensive lineman who got
36:42
Speaker 1: hurt in the game, their safety play, their physical team.
36:47
Speaker 1: But you watch them, you go, how did this team
36:49
Speaker 1: not win ten games? How did this team not win
36:50
Speaker 1: the division? It's like, well, look at some of the
36:54
Speaker 1: previous shitty games against nobody's so I don't know. My
37:01
Speaker 1: guests would say he survives, but maybe you know, if
37:05
Speaker 1: he beats the Saints, all of a sudden, you're eight
37:07
Speaker 1: nine and the season doesn't look that bad. The volume