Trump Wants ‘5 Little Shots.’ What Does That Mean? with Dr. Céline Gounder

That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton · Sep 3, 2026 · 36m

As kids head back to school, vaccines are top of mind for many parents and caregivers. That’s especially true as measles outbreaks continue in communities across the country and heartbreaking reports are coming out about measles-associated deaths. Chelsea speaks with infectious-disease physician, epidemiologist, and medical correspondent Dr. Céline Gounder about the changes to federal childhood-vaccine recommendations, a new Atlantic article about the family at the center of Pennsylvania’s measles controversy, and why she thinks of measles as a mini HIV. Plus, Dr. Gounder debunks the latest…