Latest / Dear Chelsea / Minisode: Gold-Star Gay with Chelsea + Catherine
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay for the high and mighty to our people. We
- 0:02Speaker 1: are rocket and rolling. These are the shows we have
- 0:05Speaker 1: coming up. Chicago April tenth. I start Chicago, then I
- 0:09Speaker 1: have Indianapolis on the eleventh, and then Louisville, Kentucky on
- 0:13Speaker 1: April twelfth. April sixteenth is Albuquerque. April seventeenth is Mesa, Arizona.
- 0:18Speaker 1: April twenty third is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth
- 0:21Speaker 1: is Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Minneapolis. April
- 0:25Speaker 1: thirtieth Nashville. May first, Charlotte, North Carolina. May second is Durham,
- 0:30Speaker 1: North Carolina. May sixth in Los Angeles at the Sabon
- 0:34Speaker 1: Theater for Netflix as a joke. April fifteenth, I will
- 0:38Speaker 1: be in Saratoga. April sixteenth, Monterey, April seventeenth, Modesto. I
- 0:42Speaker 1: will be in port Chester on June fourth. June fifth,
- 0:46Speaker 1: I will be in Boston, Massachusetts. June twelfth, I will
- 0:49Speaker 1: be in Portland, Oregon. And June thirteenth, I will be
- 0:52Speaker 1: in Seattle, Washington. June twenty seventh is going to be Hyennas, Massachusetts.
- 0:57Speaker 1: August sixth is red Bank, New Jersey. August seven I'm
- 1:00Speaker 1: coming home to Montclair, New Jersey, August fifteenth, is Calgary, Alberta, Canada,
- 1:06Speaker 1: September eighteenth, Santa Barbara September nineteenth, San Diego September twenty fifth.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I will be at the Beacon in New York City
- 1:13Speaker 1: September twenty sixth. I will be in Philadelphia September twenty seventh,
- 1:18Speaker 1: New Haven, Connecticut. October second, Atlanta, Georgia, October third, Baltimore, Maryland,
- 1:24Speaker 1: October fourth, Saginaw, Michigan, October ninth, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, October tenth, Toronto, Canada,
- 1:31Speaker 1: October sixteenth. I'm coming to Boise, Idaho, October seventeenth, Spokane, Washington,
- 1:36Speaker 1: November seventh. I will be in San Francisco and November thirteenth,
- 1:41Speaker 1: Salt Lake City November twentieth, Austin November twenty first, Houston, Texas,
- 1:48Speaker 1: November twenty second, Irving, Texas. December fifth. I am adding
- 1:52Speaker 1: a second show in Denver for those of you who
- 1:54Speaker 1: are going to get tickets to the first one. And
- 1:56Speaker 1: on December sixth, I will be coming to Vancouver, Canada. Okay,
- 2:01Speaker 1: those are all my dates for the Hi Mighty Door.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Go to Chelsea Handler dot com for tickets. Hi Catherine,
- 2:07Speaker 1: Hi Chelsea.
- 2:08Speaker 2: You know what have you seen this thing online of
- 2:11Speaker 2: people only hiring women?
- 2:13Speaker 1: Now? I love it.
- 2:14Speaker 2: I had to tell you about this because I've been
- 2:16Speaker 2: seeing sort of a movement online of like, why would
- 2:19Speaker 2: I hire a man when I can just hire a
- 2:20Speaker 2: woman to do this, whether it's like, you know, odd
- 2:23Speaker 2: jobs around the house, or like going to a female dentist.
- 2:27Speaker 1: I thought of that.
- 2:27Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, why have I been going
- 2:29Speaker 2: to a male dentist? So I'm switching immediately. But there's
- 2:32Speaker 2: even these There's like a couple of little companies that
- 2:35Speaker 2: are like rent a butch where they can hire a
- 2:37Speaker 2: woman to come and like install your shelves or whatever. Yeah,
- 2:41Speaker 2: there's another one called Not a Man's.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Solutions in the Dallas Fort Worth area. So I don't know,
- 2:46Speaker 1: that's just been coming across my I love that because obviously,
- 2:49Speaker 1: why not just try to avoid being sexually assultant? Also,
- 2:52Speaker 1: while you're at it, also, I had six doctors appointments,
- 2:56Speaker 1: so I was in LA for twenty four hours. So
- 2:57Speaker 1: I did all of my annuals, and four out of
- 3:00Speaker 1: six of my doctors are women. My dentist is a woman.
- 3:03Speaker 1: My guynecologist is a woman. My dermatologist is a woman.
- 3:07Speaker 1: The only man that I went to that is the
- 3:10Speaker 1: only man that I saw is my internist. He's a man. Great.
- 3:15Speaker 2: You know what, Sometimes sometimes a man has got to
- 3:18Speaker 2: slip in there, but.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Well sometimes they do have to slip in there. But yeah,
- 3:22Speaker 1: I love that. First of all, if you have, if
- 3:25Speaker 1: you're a woman, you want a female doctor, I mean,
- 3:27Speaker 1: that's just makes some more sense you just do. So
- 3:30Speaker 1: sorry guys. Yeah.
- 3:31Speaker 2: And also, like we're voting with our dollars whenever we
- 3:34Speaker 2: spend a dollar, so like, let's spend it with women.
- 3:36Speaker 1: I love it. Voting with our dollars. Voting with our dollars.
- 3:40Speaker 2: They say, like when you are spending a dollar wherever
- 3:42Speaker 2: you're spending it, that dollar is a vote for something.
- 3:45Speaker 2: So whether you're spending an Amazon or you're spending it
- 3:47Speaker 2: like shopping small for Christmas or whatever, you're voting with
- 3:50Speaker 2: your dollars of what you want to see more of.
- 3:52Speaker 1: So voting for women. Yeah, I'd like to see less
- 3:54Speaker 1: of Amazon, that's for sure. Same.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Okay, So I have it update right now from Alyssa,
- 4:01Speaker 2: who called in on our Madeleine Petch episode. She was
- 4:05Speaker 2: the out who her boyfriend didn't want the dog in
- 4:07Speaker 2: the bedroom.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Okay, so she says, dequerdo or no day record.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Dequerdo yes okay, Hi ladies, I wanted to update you
- 4:17Speaker 2: about the situation. When the episode came out, I played
- 4:20Speaker 2: it for my boyfriend. I don't think he realized how
- 4:22Speaker 2: much of an asshole he was being about the dog
- 4:24Speaker 2: free time until he heard others talk about it too.
- 4:27Speaker 2: We talked about it more, and since then, I've simply
- 4:29Speaker 2: left the door to our bedroom open for my dog
- 4:31Speaker 2: to come in and out as he pleases. Some nights
- 4:34Speaker 2: he sleeps with us, and other nights he chooses to
- 4:36Speaker 2: stay on the couch. On top of that, I got
- 4:38Speaker 2: a new job a couple of weeks ago and am
- 4:40Speaker 2: able to work from home Mondays and Fridays, which gives
- 4:43Speaker 2: me much more one on one time with my dog
- 4:44Speaker 2: than I had before. I think I was missing that,
- 4:47Speaker 2: and I'm beyond happy to have more time at home
- 4:48Speaker 2: with him during the week. PS tell Chelsea to keep
- 4:51Speaker 2: posting the Doug content. He's such a light during these
- 4:53Speaker 2: dark times. Much love, Alissa.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Speaking of light during dark times, Doug is getting lighter
- 4:59Speaker 1: in Whistler because of the time. Color. Yeah, in color,
- 5:02Speaker 1: his coat is getting lighter and lighter. And I was like,
- 5:05Speaker 1: why does he have light brown streaks on him? And
- 5:07Speaker 1: I asked my doggie, my person up there who takes
- 5:10Speaker 1: care of him. Yes, and she was like, oh, when
- 5:14Speaker 1: these types of dogs aren't exposed to the sun, they're
- 5:17Speaker 1: like their bodies, their their coats get lighter. And when
- 5:20Speaker 1: they're exposed to the sun, their coats get darker. And
- 5:23Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah. And I don't know if it's
- 5:26Speaker 1: just chow Chows or all dogs, but it was definitely
- 5:29Speaker 1: chow Chow's. So I'm gonna have to follow up the bay,
- 5:31Speaker 1: but it was true. So his hair is like, he's
- 5:33Speaker 1: got tints of red and blonde. I'm like, come on, buddy,
- 5:36Speaker 1: let's get back to basics. I got you because you
- 5:38Speaker 1: were black. I need you to stay black.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Well, listen, I can't blame my boy for wanting eyelights.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Well, our collor today is Kristen and she is a
- 5:53Speaker 2: lesbian in love with a bisexual girl. So she says,
- 5:57Speaker 2: Dear Chelsea, I'm a thirty two year old gay woman
- 5:59Speaker 2: and came out at twenty three. Since then, I've unfortunately
- 6:02Speaker 2: found myself in relationships with people who weren't good for me.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Because of this, I sometimes struggle with insecurities even now
- 6:08Speaker 2: that I'm finally in a healthy, loving relationship. I'm dating
- 6:11Speaker 2: an amazing woman. She's twenty seven, has a great career,
- 6:14Speaker 2: and we truly have fun together. We communicate well, we
- 6:17Speaker 2: laugh a lot, and I love her deeply. For the
- 6:19Speaker 2: first time, I can see myself wanting marriage because of
- 6:22Speaker 2: my past, I catch myself worrying that I'll somehow sabotage
- 6:25Speaker 2: the relationship with my fears. Here's where my insecurities creep in.
- 6:29Speaker 2: My girlfriend is bisexual, which I fully accept, but I've
- 6:32Speaker 2: been cheated on in the past by a by partner.
- 6:34Speaker 1: She cheated with a man.
- 6:35Speaker 2: I sometimes spiral into thinking I'll never be able to
- 6:37Speaker 2: offer what a man could, and it makes me worry
- 6:39Speaker 2: she'll eventually leave in our relationship. She also kept the
- 6:43Speaker 2: door open with another woman before choosing me, which made
- 6:46Speaker 2: me question whether I was really her first choice. She
- 6:48Speaker 2: also tells me she finds me most attractive when I'm confident,
- 6:52Speaker 2: and honestly, I get that because I feel the same
- 6:54Speaker 2: way about women. Confidence is hot and I want to
- 6:56Speaker 2: show up as a confident, badass woman that I know
- 6:58Speaker 2: I am, But when my insecurities creep in, I feel
- 7:01Speaker 2: her attraction fade, and then I spiral even more.
- 7:04Speaker 1: I know I'm a catch.
- 7:05Speaker 2: I have a solid career, I have a PhD and
- 7:07Speaker 2: actively work on equality and Arkansas all places. But sometimes
- 7:11Speaker 2: my fear of being left blindsides me, and I can't
- 7:13Speaker 2: tell if it's my trauma making me feel this way,
- 7:15Speaker 2: or if my gut is trying to warn me. I
- 7:18Speaker 2: want to marry this woman. I want to trust her
- 7:20Speaker 2: fully and stop doubting myself. But how do I know
- 7:22Speaker 2: if these are just my insecurities and trauma talking, or
- 7:25Speaker 2: if they're red flags I'm ignoring best.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Kristin Hi, Kristian, Hi, Hi, those are insecurities and you
- 7:35Speaker 1: as a woman. This is the most important lesson we
- 7:37Speaker 1: can learn, is that that negative talk in our brains.
- 7:40Speaker 1: It's a narrative that every single person has, and it's
- 7:43Speaker 1: up to you if you're going to decide to listen
- 7:45Speaker 1: to that narrative, if you're going to decide to listen
- 7:47Speaker 1: to the little voice in your head, which is your
- 7:49Speaker 1: ego telling you, oh, maybe this isn't going to work out.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Maybe you're not good enough. Maybe that person isn't she
- 7:54Speaker 1: is going to cheat on you. If if there's nothing
- 7:57Speaker 1: you can do to control anybody else's behavior, the only
- 8:00Speaker 1: person's behavior that you're in control love is your own.
- 8:04Speaker 1: So you have to reshape the things, the thoughts that
- 8:07Speaker 1: you react to. You know, as a woman, what is
- 8:10Speaker 1: in your gut. You know, if a situation doesn't feel
- 8:12Speaker 1: right right, you've had that feeling, you know that. And
- 8:16Speaker 1: then there's the differentiation between the thoughts in your head
- 8:19Speaker 1: that just kind of like you're lying in bed at
- 8:21Speaker 1: night and you're like, oh, maybe I'm not this or
- 8:23Speaker 1: maybe they don't like me, or you know, whatever your
- 8:25Speaker 1: negative thought patterns are. That is not your intuition, that's
- 8:29Speaker 1: just your negative narrative. And in order to change that,
- 8:33Speaker 1: you kind of have to flip the script. You have
- 8:34Speaker 1: to always be like, those are thoughts, those are that's
- 8:37Speaker 1: not a reality. She's with you. Take things at face value.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Even if she was going to cheat on you, even
- 8:46Speaker 1: if the worst of the worst was going to happen,
- 8:49Speaker 1: there's nothing that your thoughts are going to do to
- 8:52Speaker 1: control that behavior of hers. So you have to trust
- 8:55Speaker 1: in your relationship and with this person that you feel
- 8:58Speaker 1: this passionately about. You have to trust you. You have
- 9:02Speaker 1: to be like, I'm making a solid decision. She's given
- 9:04Speaker 1: me evidence that she wants to be with me. She
- 9:07Speaker 1: was honest about being with someone else and then choosing
- 9:09Speaker 1: you to be with That's not a negative, that's a positive.
- 9:13Speaker 1: That's being transparent because she was right. Yeah.
- 9:17Speaker 3: And I think one of the things too, that comes
- 9:21Speaker 3: with of being insecure, particularly for the gay community. I
- 9:24Speaker 3: feel like as a gay woman that's openly like a lesbian,
- 9:29Speaker 3: we from like coming out at like thirty, you are
- 9:31Speaker 3: taught that there is no healthy relationship for us, you know,
- 9:34Speaker 3: like being in the South, which is why I do
- 9:35Speaker 3: so much advocacy work with it. I think that a
- 9:38Speaker 3: lot of people skip that part when it comes to
- 9:40Speaker 3: why do we have insecurities? Because I think all women
- 9:43Speaker 3: have insecurities, it's just the nature of it. But I
- 9:45Speaker 3: think when you look into the gay community as a
- 9:47Speaker 3: gay woman, it's all of these things that we've been taught, well,
- 9:50Speaker 3: it's not going to work out because you're gay and
- 9:52Speaker 3: all these things coming from the South, you know, not
- 9:54Speaker 3: even I didn't even wasn't able to come out until
- 9:56Speaker 3: twenty three so whenever something negative happens to go, oh,
- 9:59Speaker 3: it's because of this, and that's like, you know, like
- 10:02Speaker 3: stopping channeling that negative self talk. And I think for
- 10:06Speaker 3: the gay community, it's really there because we're just taught
- 10:09Speaker 3: it's gonna fail. And I think when you look at
- 10:11Speaker 3: our relationship and things are working, if this was in
- 10:13Speaker 3: a normal like if I was dating man and I
- 10:17Speaker 3: was you know, straight, it would be a totally different
- 10:19Speaker 3: world to me. I think where you'd be like, oh,
- 10:20Speaker 3: they they're with me. You don't have as many securities
- 10:23Speaker 3: because we're tad. Oh that's gonna work out, you know,
- 10:25Speaker 3: like you can get married, which they're trying to take
- 10:26Speaker 3: away from upside of rapid pace.
- 10:28Speaker 1: So I think those are.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Things that just aren't that lean into it. And surprisingly
- 10:34Speaker 3: she's now moved to New York. We're still together. She
- 10:37Speaker 3: got a dream job and fashion in New York. Honestly,
- 10:40Speaker 3: distant who knew is much easier for me, even with insecurities,
- 10:45Speaker 3: because it's like such a thing like I think you
- 10:47Speaker 3: get time to like not think about that all the time,
- 10:51Speaker 3: and like work, I feel like you being I love
- 10:54Speaker 3: long distance, not in a bad way, like I love
- 10:56Speaker 3: being with someone at the same time and having them here.
- 10:58Speaker 3: But distance is nice because I'm able to filter through
- 11:01Speaker 3: my thoughts and like work and do my own thing,
- 11:04Speaker 3: but then not be focused on because she's here, of like,
- 11:06Speaker 3: oh she could leave, you know for some reason. Distance
- 11:08Speaker 3: for me is like, oh, I can really buy you
- 11:10Speaker 3: this person. Trust is really there. You have to lean
- 11:13Speaker 3: on it, so there's no other way. But I think
- 11:15Speaker 3: the a lot of my insecurities come from that idea.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Narrative that you've been told which is not which is
- 11:22Speaker 1: a story, Like there's thoughts and then there's facts and reality.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Like your thoughts are not reality, They're just thoughts. You
- 11:30Speaker 1: could always be like, oh my god, am I gonna
- 11:33Speaker 1: have it? Like am I gonna do well tonight? Or
- 11:35Speaker 1: am I gonna do well at my job? Like if
- 11:36Speaker 1: I go on, well, Actually, I don't have these thoughts
- 11:38Speaker 1: because I've had this conversation with myself. I mean, I'm
- 11:42Speaker 1: not immune to them, but I work very hard at
- 11:45Speaker 1: being able to delineate the thoughts in your head from
- 11:48Speaker 1: the actions on the ground. You know, what's real is
- 11:51Speaker 1: not what you're thinking. That we all have insecurities around
- 11:54Speaker 1: so many things, and you've been fed a story and
- 11:58Speaker 1: you're choosing to continue to eat that story instead of
- 12:02Speaker 1: putting it aside and being like, no, actually, I'm going
- 12:04Speaker 1: on to the next meal of my life, which is reality.
- 12:07Speaker 1: You're in a situation, you're in love, and if something
- 12:11Speaker 1: happens in that relationship to change the dynamic that you
- 12:14Speaker 1: find out about, then that's the time to be like, Okay,
- 12:17Speaker 1: well this is this is face value, this is real.
- 12:20Speaker 1: This isn't your imagination getting the better of you. So
- 12:24Speaker 1: I think it's just an it's a practice and you
- 12:27Speaker 1: have to really employ it, but you you don't have
- 12:29Speaker 1: time for this old story, like that's not helping you. Yeah.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Yeah, And I told Catherine I think I had said that,
- 12:37Speaker 3: Like I work where my whole job is just identifying problems, right,
- 12:41Speaker 3: like having PHG. You're just built to identify problems and
- 12:43Speaker 3: then the problem has to be fixed. And if there's
- 12:45Speaker 3: no problem, then I have no job and it's useless, right,
- 12:48Speaker 3: So I think to take that out of my work life,
- 12:51Speaker 3: and then it merges so much in a personal life.
- 12:55Speaker 3: I think, like your work identity, you don't realize it
- 12:57Speaker 3: because my brain's built to fix things and I don't
- 13:00Speaker 3: want to fix a person. You know I'm trying to
- 13:02Speaker 3: fix myself if anyone in this, and it's just one
- 13:05Speaker 3: of those things that makes it hard with so many
- 13:07Speaker 3: things going through.
- 13:07Speaker 1: But you're exactly right. It's like, how do I shut
- 13:09Speaker 1: that off.
- 13:10Speaker 3: When I'm done at five and not bring it into
- 13:12Speaker 3: this relationship to be like, there's a problem, I need
- 13:15Speaker 3: to fix it.
- 13:16Speaker 1: I mean, you should have this conversation with yourself out
- 13:18Speaker 1: loud daily, Like you leave work and you're like, Okay,
- 13:21Speaker 1: I'm leaving my problem solving and problem creating and troubleshooting.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Talking yourself out loud is a powerful tool. Like leave work,
- 13:28Speaker 1: You're like, okay, I'm done with work. I'm done with troubleshooting.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Now I get to get into my personal life and
- 13:33Speaker 1: my real life. That's my work life and this is
- 13:35Speaker 1: my real life. And I know exactly what you mean
- 13:38Speaker 1: about bleeding personal life into professional life. My life is
- 13:40Speaker 1: all kind of one big basket. But I do make
- 13:43Speaker 1: sure that I have positive conversations with myself, constantly remind
- 13:47Speaker 1: myself that I'm incredible, that I'm brave, that I help people,
- 13:51Speaker 1: and that you know, so you have to do that
- 13:53Speaker 1: for yourself too. And it doesn't you don't have to
- 13:55Speaker 1: do it forever. You just kind of have to flip
- 13:58Speaker 1: the channel, you know what I mean, the channel from
- 14:01Speaker 1: the negative talk and the negative narrative that's been implanted
- 14:04Speaker 1: in your brain from other people. That's not real. That's
- 14:08Speaker 1: a story, and you're done with that story. You know,
- 14:11Speaker 1: you can believe that story or you can move on
- 14:14Speaker 1: with your life in a positive way. So I would
- 14:16Speaker 1: start with saying talking to yourself in a really loving
- 14:18Speaker 1: way every day, even when you get up, like yeah,
- 14:21Speaker 1: wake up and be like I'm a fucking badass, I'm
- 14:23Speaker 1: in a happy relationship, i have a great job. I'm
- 14:26Speaker 1: going to go and kick ass today. And when you
- 14:28Speaker 1: leave work, you're like, that's over. That part of my
- 14:30Speaker 1: day is over, and now I'm going into my personal
- 14:33Speaker 1: life and remind and write the things down. When you
- 14:36Speaker 1: do have these thoughts, write it down. And this doesn't
- 14:39Speaker 1: have to be a permanent habit either. It's just kind
- 14:41Speaker 1: of a transition into a more positive state of mind
- 14:46Speaker 1: and like a little bit more I don't want to
- 14:48Speaker 1: say self esteem, but like self assuredness within your relationship,
- 14:52Speaker 1: because listen, nobody wants to be with somebody who's insecure
- 14:55Speaker 1: about being with them. It's not a turn on. Yeah,
- 14:57Speaker 1: nobody likes that. You know that. You don't like that, Yeah,
- 15:00Speaker 1: I don't like that. It's it's a nick. So you
- 15:04Speaker 1: have to like when you have those moments, you have
- 15:06Speaker 1: to sit with yourself and say what is this? Is
- 15:08Speaker 1: this real or is this a story I'm telling myself?
- 15:11Speaker 2: And I think it's a It is a really common
- 15:14Speaker 2: question that people who are dating someone who's bisexual, whether
- 15:16Speaker 2: you're a man or a woman dating someone whose bisexuals, like,
- 15:18Speaker 2: oh am I going to be enough for them?
- 15:20Speaker 1: And I would argue that you're more than yeah, than
- 15:26Speaker 1: a man you can buy at the store, and we
- 15:29Speaker 1: all know that.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Actually don't yet, So I'm like, it's not me, but
- 15:33Speaker 3: I always wonder, you know, you're like, oh gosh, I
- 15:35Speaker 3: don't want to be that. I can't compare, and I don't.
- 15:37Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not even in that.
- 15:39Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not competing with that.
- 15:40Speaker 3: Like if that's like it also new.
- 15:43Speaker 1: What you're saying is just it's so like vast and
- 15:47Speaker 1: that's like me dating someone and being like, what if
- 15:50Speaker 1: he meets a brunette? Right Exactly, it's silly. It's because
- 15:55Speaker 1: he's dated brunettes before, you know what I mean, Like,
- 15:57Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't matter. You have to show up
- 16:00Speaker 1: to your relationship and give, like give what you've got
- 16:03Speaker 1: to give, and that's gonna be enough. And if it's
- 16:07Speaker 1: not enough, then you're gonna move on to do something else.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Even if the relationship were to blow up, you're gonna
- 16:12Speaker 1: survive that too. Like I'm here to tell you everyone
- 16:15Speaker 1: survives all of this stuff, you know, Like we always
- 16:18Speaker 1: think it's the end of the world and we were
- 16:20Speaker 1: so worried. I've been in that position when I've been
- 16:22Speaker 1: in relationships where I've been like, she get a cheat
- 16:24Speaker 1: on me, I have to call them. You know, this
- 16:26Speaker 1: is you know, a very toxic relationship obviously, but it's like, yeah,
- 16:30Speaker 1: because when you think like that and you act like that,
- 16:32Speaker 1: it's almost like you could kind of create that situations.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Like a self fulfilling prophecy.
- 16:37Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's so annoying. And I feel like I
- 16:39Speaker 3: do a good job about not blowing up phones or
- 16:41Speaker 3: like doing anything crazy. It's just one of those things
- 16:43Speaker 3: where I'm like, what's happened? This has never happened to
- 16:45Speaker 3: me before in my entire life. Either that most of
- 16:47Speaker 3: the time, I'm like, oh, whatever, fuck it, like you know,
- 16:49Speaker 3: but for the first time, I'm like, oh, I really
- 16:51Speaker 3: like somebody, is this ever gonna happen again?
- 16:54Speaker 1: And I'm like they get along with my family this.
- 16:57Speaker 3: And ever, you know, because being in the South, like
- 17:00Speaker 3: finally someone that is gay that you can actually go
- 17:02Speaker 3: and hang out with them and it's cool and it's
- 17:04Speaker 3: fun and you get to not hide or like have
- 17:06Speaker 3: to be like, oh, we're just friends, which is such bullshit.
- 17:09Speaker 3: And it's I'm in this moment where I'm like, oh,
- 17:10Speaker 3: my gosh, I actually care. And I've never felt like insecure,
- 17:15Speaker 3: like nervous or worried about different things because most of
- 17:17Speaker 3: the time I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna like kick
- 17:19Speaker 3: us in my job. I've got stuff to do, like,
- 17:21Speaker 3: and it's like where is my confidence? And then I
- 17:24Speaker 3: hear the people make comments, and then you look at
- 17:26Speaker 3: stuff and you're like, am I crazy?
- 17:28Speaker 1: Or is this like as good?
- 17:29Speaker 2: What do you mean?
- 17:29Speaker 1: You hear other people make comments.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Like when we'll go like we've hung out with a
- 17:33Speaker 3: couple of her friends and they'll mention her being bisexual
- 17:36Speaker 3: or be like pick your like we'll say something about
- 17:38Speaker 3: like men or bring it up, and then I feel
- 17:40Speaker 3: like I get a little bit true because I'm like,
- 17:41Speaker 3: oh my gosh, is that something that she still wants?
- 17:43Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait, what that? And it's not her
- 17:46Speaker 3: making the comment, so I'm like, why am I making
- 17:48Speaker 3: as in my head she's literally not even doing it.
- 17:51Speaker 3: And then after as just like I'd like that's just stupid,
- 17:54Speaker 3: Like why do we worry about it?
- 17:55Speaker 1: Because she has other shit to do too, you know.
- 17:57Speaker 3: So I think kind of dealing with stuff with like
- 17:59Speaker 3: this here and everything everything has me a birthday looking
- 18:02Speaker 3: at what's going on in the world. I'm like, this
- 18:05Speaker 3: is too good to be true in these times, which
- 18:07Speaker 3: is terrible.
- 18:07Speaker 1: But that's just when those feelings come up. I think
- 18:11Speaker 1: it's really important in that moment if you can, Like obviously,
- 18:14Speaker 1: if you're out with her friends and they say something
- 18:15Speaker 1: like that, you're not gonna go get at your journal
- 18:17Speaker 1: out but yes, yeah, I'm so sorry, But but I
- 18:26Speaker 1: think it's important to clock those moments, especially when you're
- 18:29Speaker 1: alone and your mind starts to go. Even if you're
- 18:31Speaker 1: lying down and going to sleep and your mind is spinning,
- 18:34Speaker 1: it's important to just like get up, write it down,
- 18:37Speaker 1: go this is how I'm feeling. This is what triggered it,
- 18:41Speaker 1: what happened. Maybe it's nothing, Maybe it's just you and
- 18:43Speaker 1: your you know, going through your thoughts at the end
- 18:45Speaker 1: of the day. But like identifying the times when you
- 18:49Speaker 1: start to feel that way and what what triggers it.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Like for that example, it's perfect, that girl saying that
- 18:54Speaker 1: triggered you. But then you get into your real self
- 18:57Speaker 1: and you and you know, wait, this has nothing to
- 18:59Speaker 1: do with me. You didn't say it, They said it,
- 19:02Speaker 1: you know, like it's not real. Again, it's part of
- 19:05Speaker 1: a conversation. But I think if you write those things
- 19:08Speaker 1: down and you recognize the pattern, it's easier to shift
- 19:12Speaker 1: and pivot the pattern, and it's easier to remind yourself
- 19:16Speaker 1: you're safe. You're in a great relationship and a loving relationship,
- 19:20Speaker 1: you have a job. Like, everything's okay. There's nothing for
- 19:24Speaker 1: you to feel that way about. I mean, everything's that okay.
- 19:26Speaker 1: The world's about to fucking end. But in your personal life,
- 19:30Speaker 1: everything is okay, right, Yeah, things are stable, Things are stable,
- 19:35Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean I have to do that
- 19:38Speaker 1: all the time. I'm like, you're safe. I have this
- 19:40Speaker 1: gratitude journal on my phone and I'm like, you are safe.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Like I get so wrapped up in the news and
- 19:45Speaker 1: everything that's happening, and I have to remind myself, Okay,
- 19:49Speaker 1: you know you're safe, you're happy, you have people who
- 19:52Speaker 1: love you, you're protected, you know, like all of the
- 19:54Speaker 1: things to remind yourself that, like, there is no point
- 19:57Speaker 1: in losing your shit over something. It just takes time
- 20:01Speaker 1: away from happiness and joyfulness.
- 20:03Speaker 3: Right now and this climate, well everything is just like
- 20:07Speaker 3: I want to be intentional about it, you know, And
- 20:09Speaker 3: it's likely if I'm wasting my attention on something, it
- 20:12Speaker 3: better be like marching in the street, you know what
- 20:14Speaker 3: I mean. Like, I don't want to waste it on
- 20:16Speaker 3: something that's not real.
- 20:17Speaker 1: And it's also just differentiating the things that you can
- 20:20Speaker 1: have control over and the things that you can't. I
- 20:22Speaker 1: went to bed last night and I read this synopsis
- 20:25Speaker 1: about AI that was so dark and so scary, and
- 20:28Speaker 1: I was like, I obviously shouldn't read that before I
- 20:31Speaker 1: go to bed, but I shouldn't do half the things
- 20:33Speaker 1: I do before I go to bed. And I was like, Okay,
- 20:37Speaker 1: I can either choose to be freaked out about what
- 20:39Speaker 1: could potentially happen that I have absolutely no control over
- 20:44Speaker 1: or I can just be present and be loving and
- 20:48Speaker 1: be kind and enjoy myself while before AI kills us all,
- 20:51Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, let's focus on the
- 20:54Speaker 1: moment that you're in and remember to focus on the
- 20:57Speaker 1: moment you're in, and when you get out of that moment,
- 21:00Speaker 1: because you're not present, you know what I mean, and
- 21:01Speaker 1: your thoughts are racing, and so you have to try
- 21:04Speaker 1: to get back into the present moment. And if it's
- 21:06Speaker 1: happening at night when you're sleeping, literally write down what
- 21:09Speaker 1: you feel white like if something triggered it, and then
- 21:12Speaker 1: think about the things that do make you feel good,
- 21:14Speaker 1: you know, focus your attention and intention on the things
- 21:18Speaker 1: that are good in your life and all of the
- 21:20Speaker 1: things that you can control.
- 21:22Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
- 21:23Speaker 1: And then by the way, that just makes you a
- 21:24Speaker 1: more attractive person all the way around. Do you know
- 21:27Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 21:27Speaker 3: No, for sure, I don't know. It's just been a
- 21:30Speaker 3: weird time. It's a fine time right now, you know,
- 21:33Speaker 3: I mean, I hate today. It's just a weird time
- 21:35Speaker 3: to just kind of be I understand through stuff and
- 21:37Speaker 3: everything feels like a problem and it's you know, there
- 21:40Speaker 3: are so many good things that feel good about and
- 21:42Speaker 3: be happy.
- 21:42Speaker 1: But I mean, like you said so many positive things already.
- 21:45Speaker 1: You said you have a long distance relationship that's even
- 21:47Speaker 1: better than you expected. Like that's a victory that you're
- 21:50Speaker 1: having a good reaction to it. That's a sign of maturity,
- 21:53Speaker 1: a sign of independence, you know. Like, that's that's good
- 21:56Speaker 1: that you feel that way. You're in a loving relationship
- 21:59Speaker 1: with someone you're in love with that you want to
- 22:00Speaker 1: spend the rest of your life with. That's a good thing.
- 22:03Speaker 1: You have all these good things in your life, Like
- 22:05Speaker 1: fucking focus on them for sure.
- 22:08Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for calling in, and thanks
- 22:10Speaker 2: for calling in. Yeah, thanks you, guys, Kristen, see you guys. Okay,
- 22:19Speaker 2: all right, Chelsea, We're gonna wrap up with a quickie
- 22:21Speaker 2: that I feel like only you can answer. So doctor
- 22:24Speaker 2: Amy says, dear Chelsea. I'm endlessly impressed with your ability
- 22:28Speaker 2: to bring awareness and humor to the issues which continue
- 22:31Speaker 2: to oppress and annoy women, particularly men, and open toad shoes.
- 22:35Speaker 2: I find feet in general pretty revolting, and I think
- 22:38Speaker 2: that people should wear clothsed toed shoes at all times,
- 22:41Speaker 2: with rare exceptions. This view is not only for esthetics.
- 22:44Speaker 2: But for safety. I'm a veterinarian with a small goat farm,
- 22:48Speaker 2: so nowhere in my world would exposed toes be a
- 22:51Speaker 2: good idea. As a female veterinarian, I'm often in situations
- 22:54Speaker 2: where I'm treated with less respect than my male counterparts.
- 22:57Speaker 2: It's not uncommon to enter an exam room and have
- 23:00Speaker 2: a client wearing flip flops sitting down with their terrified
- 23:03Speaker 2: dog hiding between their legs under the chair. This is
- 23:07Speaker 2: a particular type of male client who will just sit
- 23:09Speaker 2: there completely unhelpful, while I'm on my hands and knees
- 23:12Speaker 2: trying to coax their dog out of their cratch, and
- 23:15Speaker 2: can currently gagging at the sight of their nasty exposed feet.
- 23:18Speaker 2: I'm also at a point in my career where I'm
- 23:20Speaker 2: often working with young veterinarians eighty five or eighty percent
- 23:23Speaker 2: of whom are female. I try to lead by example
- 23:26Speaker 2: on how to handle microaggressions and gender disparities. Regarding the
- 23:30Speaker 2: fit situation. I have always just sucked it up, but
- 23:32Speaker 2: I don't want that for the younger generations. Do you
- 23:35Speaker 2: think there's anything I can do differently? Sincerely, Doctor Amy.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Yeah, Doctor Amy. Put a sign outside your office that
- 23:42Speaker 1: says footwear required, full footwear required, no open toed shoes.
- 23:48Speaker 1: And while I understand a lot of people go to
- 23:50Speaker 1: the vet in an emergency situation, like that's okay, you're
- 23:53Speaker 1: putting the message out there. You're putting the message out there.
- 23:56Speaker 1: They're still going to get serviced. But we've crossed full
- 24:00Speaker 1: foot coverage. There's nothing wrong with putting that on a
- 24:03Speaker 1: sign or we appreciate full foot coverage. We appreciate full
- 24:08Speaker 1: So it's more of a suggest for safety. Yeah, for safety.
- 24:13Speaker 2: And I think with the you know, when you have
- 24:15Speaker 2: to coax the dog up, that is something like you
- 24:17Speaker 2: let the owner do. Just ask them straight up, like hey,
- 24:20Speaker 2: can you get your dog to come over here so
- 24:21Speaker 2: we can lift them up on the table or whatever,
- 24:23Speaker 2: But make that the owner's responsibility to get the dog
- 24:26Speaker 2: out from where they are. And I mean, I think
- 24:28Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of people will comply. They're just like
- 24:30Speaker 2: not thinking straight to like move their dog for you.
- 24:34Speaker 2: So I would just say like, yeah, can you bring
- 24:36Speaker 2: your dog out and then we can get them on
- 24:37Speaker 2: the table. But yeah, I think we agree with doctor Amy.
- 24:41Speaker 2: I think closed toad shoes, especially on men, is is ideal.
- 24:44Speaker 1: I had I was at a ski lodge, like a
- 24:45Speaker 1: Helly ski lodge a couple of weeks ago, and there
- 24:47Speaker 1: was a couple there that I was like, really, we
- 24:49Speaker 1: were hanging out with it, and they were really cute
- 24:51Speaker 1: and we had a good time with them. But the
- 24:53Speaker 1: man did wear flip flops at a ski lodge and
- 24:55Speaker 1: I had to look away, and I was like, all right,
- 24:58Speaker 1: this guy's going to get a pass because, like you know,
- 25:00Speaker 1: is you're having a good time, I worry. I we're
- 25:02Speaker 1: having a good time. And I liked him. I didn't
- 25:04Speaker 1: want to brade him, but you know, I try to
- 25:06Speaker 1: pick and choose my moments, but it was like, we're
- 25:08Speaker 1: at a Helli ski lodge the time you want to
- 25:10Speaker 1: break out your flip flops.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Yeah, there is always there is like a weird thing
- 25:15Speaker 2: where it doesn't matter how cold it is outside, even
- 25:17Speaker 2: in the Midwest or Northeast, like there will be a
- 25:20Speaker 2: white man in shorts and flip flops, Like somewhere there
- 25:23Speaker 2: will be it doesn't matter if it's twenty below.
- 25:25Speaker 1: I who ever came up with flip flops needs to
- 25:27Speaker 1: get sued, and I should be the one. I believe
- 25:32Speaker 1: in it. I believe in it.
- 25:32Speaker 3: I think you should.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that's all for this week. All right, bye, guys,
- 25:38Speaker 1: see you next week.
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