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Who are the defensive pillars of the 2025 Buffalo Bills defense? | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: In this episode of Disguise Coverage, we will be diving
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  Speaker 1: into the defensive pillars of the twenty twenty five Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Bill's defense. If you didn't know by what I just said,
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  Speaker 1: or by the title, or by the episode description, or
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  Speaker 1: by maybe one of the posts on social that led
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  Speaker 1: you here, and you know, I think this conversation could
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  Speaker 1: be had for the offense, but I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: as fun or as conversation driving, because so much of
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  Speaker 1: the offensive success is tied to Josh Allen, the really
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  Speaker 1: good offensive line they have, and then the schematic usage
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  Speaker 1: and what Joe Brady has done successes that different offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinators have had, And so I don't think the offense
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  Speaker 1: is too much of a story going into this year
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  Speaker 1: other than what wrinkles do they add, what tweaks do
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  Speaker 1: they add? You know, wink wink, nudge, nudge more pistol, Please,
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  Speaker 1: more pistol, and some other gap scheme stuff, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: some six offensive line and continuation and some blast motion
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  Speaker 1: and some of the little tweaks that they showed at
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  Speaker 1: the end of year but didn't really lean into conversation
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  Speaker 1: for another time, but I think for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: this offense is built to succeed in this league. You
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  Speaker 1: have the MVP quarterback, or even if he isn't the MVP,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the entire league. You
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  Speaker 1: have a very very very good offensive line, you have
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  Speaker 1: a very very very good run game, and you are
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  Speaker 1: built to succeed the way that good offenses succeed in
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  Speaker 1: today's NFL with condensed formations, marriage of the run. In
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  Speaker 1: the past to a degree they could use more play action,
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  Speaker 1: but really putting defenses into run pass conflict consistently and
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  Speaker 1: being able to access a good amount of the offensive
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  Speaker 1: menu while being in different personnel groupings, formations, and alignments.
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  Speaker 1: The defensive side of the ball, I think is a
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  Speaker 1: bit more of the story for me going into this year,
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  Speaker 1: just because of what they continue to be year in
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  Speaker 1: and year out from a playoff standpoint, and what that
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  Speaker 1: looks like in the fans eyes. Now, I want to
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  Speaker 1: say or kind of preface all of this by saying
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  Speaker 1: injuries have significantly impacted the Bill defense the past several years.
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  Speaker 1: In the come playoff time. It really seems like when
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  Speaker 1: we get down to the end of the year. Not
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  Speaker 1: only are they missing guys, they're missing like some of
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  Speaker 1: their top guys. Some of these pillars actually that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about in this episode have been banged
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  Speaker 1: up in these big games when they've needed them most,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes and through no fault of their own. I know
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of place blame on a guy
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  Speaker 1: for an injury, but I know some will. But so
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  Speaker 1: injuries have definitely played a role. But I think the
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  Speaker 1: defense is more of the questionable unit going into this year.
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  Speaker 1: There are some questions on offense, right like, let's not
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  Speaker 1: kind of put that past anything. Does James Cook build
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  Speaker 1: on his year from twenty twenty four? What does Kean
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  Speaker 1: Coleman look like going into year two? Do we get
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  Speaker 1: a jump from Dalton Kincaid? Is there more Ray Davis?
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  Speaker 1: What does Josh Palmer look like? Is Elijah Moore a
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  Speaker 1: regular contributor? Does Collier Security continue to uptick? But I
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  Speaker 1: think those conversations are more individual driven and more I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say not as consequential, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: say that not as consequential because the offense has a
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  Speaker 1: winning formula. You know, no pun intended there and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to replicate it and build upon it
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  Speaker 1: in theory for twenty twenty five. But the defense is
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  Speaker 1: a unit that, again, unfortunately at times, has really come
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  Speaker 1: under fire from the fan base. It seems like year
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  Speaker 1: after year it's the defense that's letting down this team
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of the fans' eyes. And so I
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  Speaker 1: thought this would be a fun episode to do one
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  Speaker 1: to kind of talk about kind of a line on
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  Speaker 1: who the better players are on this Bill's defense, who
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  Speaker 1: kind of sets the tone, Who are the players that
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  Speaker 1: are in position to be difference makers kind of so
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  Speaker 1: to speak, as the pillars of the defense, but also
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  Speaker 1: juxtaposing that with their peers at their position groups league wide.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a very important conversation to have for
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  Speaker 1: This Bill's defense, but especially for This Bill's team as
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  Speaker 1: a whole, which is a good team obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with where they've been the past several years, the success
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  Speaker 1: that they've had, and again you can say we could
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  Speaker 1: losing to the Chiefs or they have one Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: They've had a lot of success in the McDermott and
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  Speaker 1: Bean era, but I think this year and even some
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  Speaker 1: of the past several years there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: like upper tier, A tier S tier talent on this
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  Speaker 1: Bills team. They've more so been a quality unit with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of depth and a lot of b's or
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  Speaker 1: a lot of B pluses, And where other teams have
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  Speaker 1: an ans and then a C plus, the Bills are
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  Speaker 1: just like, no, We're just gonna sit here with B
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  Speaker 1: pluses and bees and a lot of depth and you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of middle is to above average to good quality,
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  Speaker 1: but not necessarily this elite type of talent across the
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  Speaker 1: board like some of these other championship caliber teams have.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the defense is a really nice microcosm
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  Speaker 1: of that, because there are very good players on this
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  Speaker 1: Bill's defense, both in a vacuum and also kind of
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  Speaker 1: compared against their peers league wide, but also some of
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  Speaker 1: the better players on this Bill's defense, it's interesting to
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  Speaker 1: kind of place them into the larger position group conversation
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  Speaker 1: within the league and see like, Okay, if you know
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  Speaker 1: player A plays position X, you know, hey, they're one
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  Speaker 1: of the better players on this team, But where do
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  Speaker 1: they rank in the league amongst that position? Because it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing to be good for the team, which again
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  Speaker 1: all carries value, of course, but how good are you
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  Speaker 1: at that position kind of amongst your peers league wide
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  Speaker 1: and some somewhat putting that into perspectives, I thought this
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  Speaker 1: would be a fun conversation to have got some pillars.
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  Speaker 1: I've also got some honorable mentions that I think are
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  Speaker 1: somewhat variable filled, but we'll get into that in this
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  Speaker 1: episode as we go along. For the regular watchers and listeners,
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  Speaker 1: apologies for more inconsistency in my schedule the past couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks that is starting to come to an end.
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  Speaker 1: We will be back to our normally scheduled Tuesday nine
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  Speaker 1: that Tuesday regular rhythm through the rest of July, through
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the regular season. I appreciate everyone for
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  Speaker 1: bearing with me. A lot of busyness going on in
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  Speaker 1: a multitude of ways, in good ways for myself. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Who your pillars are, what your expectations are for this
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  Speaker 1: Bills defense in twenty twenty five, Anything and everything that
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  Speaker 1: as we go forward having this discussion on the pillars
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  Speaker 1: of Bill's defense for twenty twenty five. Let's get right
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  Speaker 1: into it. There's no particular order. I started just kind
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  Speaker 1: of somewhat by position group, working from the back. But
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  Speaker 1: there's not really any rhyme or reason to it. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to think, like, oh, the first
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  Speaker 1: guy that he talks about is the most important pillar,
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  Speaker 1: or is the top guy, or is the best guy
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  Speaker 1: in this defense, although I think you can potentially make
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  Speaker 1: that case that might be a conversation for another time
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  Speaker 1: or this episode we'll see. The first pillar I want
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  Speaker 1: to start with in this episode is Christian Benford, Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Bill's cornerback CB one on this team and someone who
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  Speaker 1: I think is on the precipice of becoming one of
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  Speaker 1: the top corners in this league. I think he's one
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  Speaker 1: of the most underrated players in the entire NFL. And
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  Speaker 1: I say that from the perspective of you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you ask most fans across the league, even actually, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: even a lot of analysts, like not really many people
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  Speaker 1: are talking about Christian Benford. I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: many people know Christian Benford aside from the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he's got like a weird number, which is a forty seven,
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  Speaker 1: Like usually good dudes don't rock that kind of number.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if that doesn't track for people
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  Speaker 1: or it's because the Bill's defense is and the sexiest
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  Speaker 1: from a name recognition standpoint, but I think Christian Benford
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  Speaker 1: is one of the most underrated players in the league
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how much he gets talked about versus
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  Speaker 1: how good of a football player he is. He was
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  Speaker 1: my top breakout candidate for twenty twenty four. You just
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  Speaker 1: saw the progression that he was starting to make. Ooh
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  Speaker 1: strong comment here from Andy. Andy think it for being here.
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  Speaker 1: Think of the comment. Andy says, agree, but he's already
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  Speaker 1: top five in the league for me. Oh so, Andy
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  Speaker 1: thinks Christian benfor it's the top five corner in the league.
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  Speaker 1: I've gone back and forth, and I'll say this with
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  Speaker 1: this compent with relation to Benford and corners in general,
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  Speaker 1: the corner conversation in ranking corners is so difficult for
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  Speaker 1: me because so much of the conversation is like scheme
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  Speaker 1: specific and almost arbitrary in terms of like what you
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  Speaker 1: value or for For me, at least I should say
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  Speaker 1: like how much mayn is a guy playing? What are
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  Speaker 1: his responsibilities? Does he only line up on one side?
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  Speaker 1: You know? How often does he match up with the
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  Speaker 1: number one? What kind of competition is he facing? And
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  Speaker 1: then even the numbers in the metrics like reception percentage
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  Speaker 1: isn't necessarily the best way to judge it. Are you
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  Speaker 1: judging you know, snaps per target? Are you judging you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yards per reception? Metrics can be a bit misleading and
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  Speaker 1: not really tell the whole picture. I think tape study
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  Speaker 1: is the best for evaluating corners. But again, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it is so scheme dependent. If you think Christian
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  Speaker 1: Benford is that, I'm not saying you particularly any but
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  Speaker 1: you is in anyone in general. If you think Christian
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  Speaker 1: Benford is a top five corner, god bless you for it.
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  Speaker 1: I think I fluctuate. Again, it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: like give a set list knowing how much scheme matters.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's top five. I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's not top five for me, but he is
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  Speaker 1: in I think anywhere from like a six to eleven,
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  Speaker 1: seven to twelve type of range for me, with the
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  Speaker 1: medium probably be like nine or ten or even eight
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  Speaker 1: at this point given his all aroundability, but really strong player,
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  Speaker 1: I think somebody who again is starting to get into
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  Speaker 1: that area of being one of the better players at
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  Speaker 1: his position. I think if he's not solidly in the
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  Speaker 1: top ten now, I think he has a very good
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  Speaker 1: chance to play him into top ten or even top
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  Speaker 1: five consideration, depending on where people already have him ranked.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of it is for me with Christian Benford,
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  Speaker 1: it's his coverage ability and his run defense ability, and
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  Speaker 1: I think both of those are so tremendously important in
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  Speaker 1: today's NFL. Obviously, as a corner, you have to be
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  Speaker 1: able to cover. We know this aspect. You know you
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  Speaker 1: are a pass defender first and foremost. But in today's NFL,
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  Speaker 1: with how the run game has come back in vogue
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  Speaker 1: condensed formations, you have to be able to play the
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  Speaker 1: run as both a force player and a tackler. And
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  Speaker 1: again that matters a ton in today's NFL. Just some
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  Speaker 1: of the basic right, Like we talk on the show
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  Speaker 1: all the time about duo, how the Bills run duo,
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  Speaker 1: and I talk all the time about James Cook and
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  Speaker 1: his ability to bounce those duo runs outside. Usually on
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  Speaker 1: duo there is a purposeful you know, or no purposeful
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's right verbiage there, I'm falling apart.
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  Speaker 1: It is an unblocked defender on the defense, usually on
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  Speaker 1: purpose or purposefully. It is a defensive back. It could
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  Speaker 1: be the outside corner, it might be the nickel. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it's safety, depending on alignment. But you will see
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  Speaker 1: the Bills at times leave that outside corner unblocked. Think
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  Speaker 1: of Riley Moss for the Denver Broncos in the wildcard game.
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  Speaker 1: Bills run duo Riley Moss is unblocked. He comes down,
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  Speaker 1: James Cook bounces it, beats him around the corner, gets
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  Speaker 1: up the sideline, gets a nice chunk play right. The
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  Speaker 1: Bills will do that by design because James Cook has
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  Speaker 1: the ability to bounce and he can run through a corner,
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  Speaker 1: or he can run around them because of his skill
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  Speaker 1: set and his traits and how good he is. But
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  Speaker 1: even if you aren't the Bills, even if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have James Cook in theory, usually the outside corner is
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  Speaker 1: one of the poorer tacklers on a team. So defenses
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  Speaker 1: have to be very cognizant of offenses trying to put
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  Speaker 1: their corners into run conflict by design, making them have
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  Speaker 1: one on one scenarios, or having to fight through a
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  Speaker 1: tight end for a block, or fight through you know,
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  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman out in space in a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: You've just got to account for the run, not as
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  Speaker 1: much as the pass, but close to it nowadays, from
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  Speaker 1: a responsibility standpoint and from a finishing stampoint, you have
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  Speaker 1: to come up, you know, in crack replace act as
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  Speaker 1: a forced player, be able to turn that run back inside,
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  Speaker 1: take good angles, not let guys get outside you, but
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  Speaker 1: then also be able to finish at the tackle point.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a strength for Christian Benford. His ability as
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  Speaker 1: a run fitter and run finisher, in addition to what
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  Speaker 1: he brings as a coverage player. I think it makes
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  Speaker 1: him so tremendously important to the Bills defense and such
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  Speaker 1: a good player in today's NFL at the cornerback position,
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  Speaker 1: and just looking at him, I don't think he's elite
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  Speaker 1: in any one area. He's got some size, he's got
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  Speaker 1: some speed, he's got some frame, he's got some burst.
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  Speaker 1: He can play physical, but he's also sound technically, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think. Again, I don't think he's elite anywhere, but
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  Speaker 1: he's just not deficient anywhere. He's pretty good. He's good
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  Speaker 1: to pretty good almost across the entire board. If we're
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  Speaker 1: ranking like every aspect of a corner on a scale
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  Speaker 1: at one to ten, ten being amazing and one being terrible,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's like a seven to an eight and
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  Speaker 1: a half in everything. And that might not seem super sexy,
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  Speaker 1: and it's probably not. But when you don't really have
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  Speaker 1: any deficiencies and you're just good to pretty good in
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  Speaker 1: almost everything, again, from a run standpoint, and a pass standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is like. You get some really good
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  Speaker 1: cover corners who aren't good for players or who aren't
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  Speaker 1: good tacklers, or he gets some really good cover corners
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  Speaker 1: who might struggle with size, or some dudes who might
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  Speaker 1: struggle with speed, because Benford is just pretty good, good
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  Speaker 1: to pretty good in almost everything. He can combat a
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  Speaker 1: lot of a variety of body types. You can watch
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  Speaker 1: him play up against bigger bodied receivers, you can watch
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  Speaker 1: him cover speed guys like Brian Thomas or Tyreek Hill.
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  Speaker 1: He knows how to position himself, He's got good feet,
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  Speaker 1: he's got good hips, he's got good route recognition and
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  Speaker 1: eyes and hand usage. Just a really, really good player,
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  Speaker 1: one of the pillars of this defense, one of the
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  Speaker 1: pillars of this team. With the contract that he got
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  Speaker 1: this year, and I think he has a really good
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  Speaker 1: chance to make that contract look absolutely tremendous by continuing
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  Speaker 1: to move in an upward trajectory. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what's really exciting with Christian Benford is I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's plateaued yet. I think he has
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  Speaker 1: a chance to continue to get a bit better and
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  Speaker 1: really again push himself to solidly, you know, solidifying himself
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  Speaker 1: as a top ten corner or maybe even a top
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  Speaker 1: five depending on where you have him ranked now, but
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  Speaker 1: definitely one of the pillars of this team. Plays a
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  Speaker 1: premium position and is very good at it in almost
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  Speaker 1: every way. And a good point here from James, you know,
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  Speaker 1: saying a sauce Gardner gets all the praise. Benford is
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  Speaker 1: a better tackleer than Gardner one thousand per Benford is
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate force multiplier against the run because of his physicality,
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  Speaker 1: his willingness, his sound tackling ability, but just not being
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  Speaker 1: assignment sound. I posted a clip the other day of
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  Speaker 1: Taylor rat making a really nice tackle from depth against
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  Speaker 1: the Rams on an inside run against Kien Williams. Uh
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember what kind of run it was, but
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  Speaker 1: it was condensed formation and Benford is the forced player
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  Speaker 1: on the outside. And the reason Kyrien Williams hits it
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: up inside and rap is able to make that tackle
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: is because Benford just takes a really good angle closing
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: down the space from the outside. Is that force player.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Kyroen camp bounce it outside, doesn't have a ton of speed,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: so he's not really a bounced guy anyway. But he
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: takes one peek at Benford is like, no, let me
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: slam it up inside like you just see that with regularity,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And even if the running back does bounce out that way,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there's a good chance Benford's going to make that tackle
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: again because he's a sound tackler. He's willing, but he's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: also got some size and some frame and some physicality
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: in addition to having some athleticism. Really nice piece there.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I want to grab some of the comments that started
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to roll in What's Up? Roy Roy says the defense
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: has too many unanswerable questions as of now, new and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: unproven pieces. Hope it works out well, but still a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: bit skeptical. Roy. I echo those sentiments and we will
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: talk about some of those in an episode next week
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: when I'm joined by Jpacosta from esp Nation to have
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: a large scale Bills conversation in terms of the AFC
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: landscape and what could or will hold the Bills back
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Very excited for that, Charles, thank
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you for being here. Charles says, what's up? And what's up? Charles?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: The Bills have been top ten defensively and EPA per
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: play under McDermott every year despite the lack of star
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: power hashtag coaching. I think it's a fair point. I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: think for as much as the defense has been a
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: letdown for fans in the playoffs, I think what gets
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: lost every year is how the Bills are able to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: consistently have a good unit and a well coached unit
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: despite not having the most talent or the lack of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: star power like you said, or being able to overcome injuries,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: being able to take second and third and even sometimes
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: four string guys and get them to play above their
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: pay grade or above their depth chart level for one game,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: two games, three games, four games. It's a real testament
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to the coaching staff, and I think that type of
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: coaching ability and the ability to be able to get
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this team to the finish line gets lost every year
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: because of their performance at the finish line and overall,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: they do a good job of getting the most blood
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: from the stone that they can. I think they raise
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: ceilings and raise floors, especially especially from a secondary perspective,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I should say, but yeah, I think that aspect gets lost.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: The development piece because of the lack of development at
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: certain positions and kind of how the season ends every
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: year puts a bad taste in fans mouth, even just
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: their ability to consistently generate turnovers, like that aggressiveness and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: that ability to attack the football and create negative plays,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: something that is traditionally hard to sustain and create year
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: over year. Yet the Bills seemed to be able to
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: continue to create it and sustain it year over year.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Good point there. What's up hard Jay John Robert coming
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: in talking about some offense and our offensive line was
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: rated third best. Yeah. I think PFF put out some rankings.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles and Lions are one and two.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know who was one and who was two,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: but I think the Bills was three. It was nice
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to see them get that recognition because I don't think
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that was really happening during the year last year, despite
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: them being a very good unit. Cynthia's here saying go Bills,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Go Bill, Cynthia appreciate you are just saying. Sauce wasn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: good the last couple of years. Really, Yeah, he started
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to fall off a little bit, really only plays one
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. I think he kind of checked
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: out a bit with the lack of success, which is
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: understandable but also really disappointing. I'm interested to see if
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the Jets are more competitive this year. If he goes
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: back to being a bit more competitive, especially from a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: coverage standpoint, but also not having DJ Reid there anymore
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: is very interesting. He's playing opposite of Brandon Stevens, so
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: he needs to kind of step up because they've gone
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: from having one of the best corner tandems in the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: league too not having one of the best corner tannems
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: in the league. Connor says the twenty twenty five Bills
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: will be on par with the nineteen eighty five Bears.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I have a hunch that's that's very high praise. We
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: will see about that. Not doubting you, but that's extremely
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: high praise, extremely high praise. Oh har Ja saying I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: marked out big time when JP was on Mina Kimes
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the show a couple months ago. I think that's his
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: second time being on the show. I think he's been
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: on it before if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, JP
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: does great work and Mina does great work. Maybe you'll
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: see Mina Kimes on this show again later this summer
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: for her third time. Who knows. Maybe Kay Moore, he says,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Eagles Broncos than Bills for offense of line. Cay Morris's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Lions dropped a lot, probably due to the departures. Oh
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: good point. Oh that's right, ragnow retired. Yeah, Bear Broncos
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: are number two for O line in that ranking. Interesting,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: What teach Tarn next pillar that we're going over here?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just stay in the secondary, Taron Johnson. I think
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Tarn has become has started to become a bit underrated
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: within the Bills fan base, but he's still one of
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the best nickels in all of football, and I think
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: he's tremendously still tremendously important for what he allows the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills to do schematically. The you know, we talked
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: about it a bit when we talked about Benford in
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: condensed formations. We talked about it a ton last year.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: If you watched the show last year, all I talked
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: about w or not all I talked about. But actually
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it was a lot of what I talked about, the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Bills moving towards condensed formations, Bigger bodies at wide receiver,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you know, moving in the vein of the Lions. Teams
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: like the Lions and the Rams who used body types
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to put defenses into run pass conflict and using condensed
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: formations and weaponizing them out of twelve personnel eleven personnel
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: bills that it with the jumbo sets with six offensive linemen.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: But these offensive formations and the condensed formation world, combined
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: with being able to lean the run a bit more,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it's all designed to put the defense into run pass
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: conflict and try and dictate the defense and make them
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: think A when you do B, and then when they
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: think you're going to do B, you do A. Because
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: so much of the menu is more available to you
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: because of the body types you have, combined with the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: formation and alignment that you are using them with. Taron
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Johnson allows for the Bills to fight fire with fire
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit in that regard. Again, with the league
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: moving towards, you're moving more towards putting defenses in a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: run pass conflict. Taron Johnson allows you to mitigate that
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: conflict a bit because of his coveragebility and his ability
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to play the run. Now, I want to get the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: same before anybody yells at or yells at me. This
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that when teams or certain teams go with
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: really heavy personnel that you shouldn't sub tearing out from
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: time to time for a third linebacker. You know, I'm
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: not saying I'll leave him on the field no matter what.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But Taron Johnson is at the center of everything that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the Bills defense is able to do. Schematic his ability
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to trigger against the run, to set an edge, to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: shoot gaps, to take on linemen, to finish in the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in gaps, and in the whole against different body types
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: at the running back position. He plays with no fear
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and also plays with physicality. He again, he doesn't have
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the size for it, but he plays like a third
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: linebacker at that second level, and there's times where he
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: is like defenses or offenses. I should say, we'll use
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: motion to get the Bills to shift, and all of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a sudden, Taron Johnson is in the box with Matt
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Malono or Terrel Bernard and now you're essentially playing him
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: as like a weak side linebacker. And from a size standpoint,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a body type standpoint, it's not ideal to make him
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: live in that world consistently, but he can hang in
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that world a bit. He can avoid climbing offensive linemen
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and still shoot. He'll take guys on and he'll kind
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of shut down a gap or squeeze things because of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: his physicality and tenacity, and then you combine that with
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: his coverage ability. For him not being the best athlete,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: he is a sound cover guy in zone in match,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: can play some man as well. Go back to the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: performance he had a couple of seasons ago against Ceedee
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Lamb when Dallas came to Buffalo, and you just you
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: look at what he's able to do. He matters so
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: much schematically because he allows the Bills to fight fire
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: with fire when it comes to personnel dictation with offenses
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: trying to use bigger bodies or more physical type of
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: wide receivers or condensed formations. Because you don't have to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: take Taron Johnson off the field all the time. It's
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: not like, oh cool there in twelve. Because Taron Johnson
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: can bang with a tight end or he can bang
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: against eleven personnel with some bigger bodied wide receivers. He
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: can shoot gaps, he can play the run, and he's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: got some coverage ability too. You can blitz him, you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: can let him trigger and read, you can cover down
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and the hooked pearls to flats like there's a He
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: plays good from the top down. Just a really solid
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: player for the defense. An all pro a couple of
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: seasons ago, and I think that's part of what makes
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: him such an important piece for this defense is not
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: only does he manage so much schematically, but he's one
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of the best players at his position across the league.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think for years it was him, Mike Hilton, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Kenny Moore as the best slots and nickels in the league.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: McDuffie for the Chiefs, I think is amazing. He plays
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: outside and inside, and I still think he can live
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: like outside. So it never considered him like a true nickel.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You know, we'll see what Cooper Gene becomes in year two.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: McDuffie might move back into the slot full time. He's
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: definitely up there. In that conversation, he's probably the best
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: slot in the league if we're considering him like a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: slot only caliber type of dude. But tearing at worst
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: is a top five nickel in this league, but he's
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: likely top three. You can make a case that he's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the best, depending on your flavor and how it's swinging
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: for you that day. But an All Pro former All
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Pro with the position, one of the best at his
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: position and a position that's sneaky premium in this league.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: With how offenses are trying to dictate to defenses with
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: personnel and formation and alignment. Bum bum bum bum. Connor
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: follen up on his comment from Marillions as an earlier jest,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: but I do feel good about the Bills defense going
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five. There are a number of new players,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: but the defense is going to be better than last year, right,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I hope. I don't know. My biggest concern for the defense.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this a lot in next
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: week's episode. My biggest concern with the defense is the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: areas where I thought they needed improvement or tweaks from
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a philosophy standpoint or a schematic standpoint. They didn't really
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: tweak and they didn't really changed. They kind of just
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: leaned harder into the stuff they were already leaning into,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: which is alright. Like, so if there's two categories, you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: they were like a seven in one and like a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: two in another. Now they're like a nine in one,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: but there's still a two in the other. So I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: still think there's some deficiencies on this defense, especially from
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a run defense standpoint, but a lot of it it
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: kind of who said it earlier, As Roy said earlier,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you know, with the new But I'm proven pieces hope
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it works out well, but still a bit skeptical. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: think that's what it is, right, You're just you got
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: some rookies coming in, You got some new faces. What
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: does Michael White look like? How do they use them?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: What does Larry ogun Joey look like? How do they
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: use them? Both those guys have six game suspensions. How
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: much you're getting out of t J. Sanders as a rookie.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: How much are you getting out of land and Jackson
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: as a rookie? How healthy is Joey Bosa? How healthy
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: is Matt Milano? How well does the safety tandem work?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Is Max Harriston ready to start amongst other things that
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: are going on with him? If not, who's CB two.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I think this defense can be a solid quality unit.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I also think you can make the case that the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: defense is a week could be a weakness and things
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: don't work out like I really do think there's a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: wide gamut of possibilities for the defense across the board really,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: from the front to the back, from the back to
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the front, at a multitude of spots, So I think
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: it could be a little scary. I am I'm a
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: bit worried, but I was more worried last year than
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: most folks. But I just think game script mattered a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: lot to this defense. And I think the concerns I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: had last year about run defense and getting displaced on
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the interior and getting displaced in their spine, I think
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they're still at risk for having that happen again, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they're still going to need to stop the run with
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: bodies and run blitzes and stunts, which is very risk reward,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: which is what their defense already was very reliant on
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: negative plays and takeaways instead of just getting stops and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: kind of stonewalling offenses. But we'll see in a larger
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: part of that commerce again, not to you know, pass
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: this off, but a lot of this conversation will be
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the focus of next week's episode with JP, which I'm
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: very excited for. OK. John says, who do you think
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: will be Terrence backup? Part of me wants it to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: be Jordan Hancock from Ohio State, their rookie, but you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: known quantity perspective, and you know it's better to go
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: with the devil that you know. Cam Lewis performed very
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: well last year as Terrence back up and he's also
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: got some safety ability. I think it'll end up being
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: cam Lewis, but I think there's a good chance, uh
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Hancock potentially makes some noise there. Charles says, Oh, this
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: could be a whole episode. Charles says the top five
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: players on the defense specifically that need to take another
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: step forward in their play for the defense to thrive
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: this season. Wow, oh boy, Cole Bishop, this is necessarily
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: in order, cold Bishop. Honestly, I could leave it to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the defensive line and actually part two of the guys
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to talk about here kind of fall
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: into that conversation. Let me do these next two guys
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and I'll circle back to this question. That was really good, Charles,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start this.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: This was good.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Oh. I like this comment. Happy blueberry season to you.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you, equal want of blueberries in
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: each month, th thank you very much. Negativity for Sean McDermott.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Here comment is when is Sean McDermot gonna get fired?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: He's given up twenty three point four points per game
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and is the primary reason why Josh Allen hasn't won
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: hasn't at least won two by now, I don't know
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: if he's the primary reason, I think there's a conversation
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: for another time. There's a lot of things to unpack here,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: but I think it's fair to put the shoulder, to
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: put the blame on the defensive side of the ball,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: or even McDermott at times. But I think to give
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: him all of the blame and to say he's given
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: up twenty three point four points per game again essentially
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like ignoring all the injuries they've had in season from
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a regular season standpoint, from a playoff standpoint, again, I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: think there is blame to fall as Sean McDermott's feet.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I think this statement is a bit dramatic, but teach
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: their own. The next player that is a defensive pillar
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five Buffalo Bills and kind of
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: falls for me, Charles your question of the top five
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: players on defense specifically that need to take another step
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: forward in their play for the defense to thrive, This
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: person falls in here, and this is why I kind
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: of tabled that conversation. So the third defensive pillar for
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the Bills, again not third in any order, but the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: third person I'm talking about in this episode is Greg Russo,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: but he also falls into what Charles just said again
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: in terms of one of those top five players on
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: defense that need to take another step forward. And this
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: shouldn't come as any surprise anybody who watches or listen
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to the show. What I'm about to say I back
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: out a lot this offseason. I think Greg Russo is
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: one of the best run defenders in all of football,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: not just amongst edges, not just amongst defensive linemen, one
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: of the best run defenders in all of football across
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the league. I think he needs to take a jump
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. I Reckon regnized that his pressure
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: numbers have improved year over year, as has his pass
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: rush plan and technique. He really has started to take
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: advantage of his length and knowledge of the game as
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: a rusher, being able to go through guys, being able
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to develop an inside move, being able to rotate through
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: things a little bit. So I do think he's improved
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: as a rusher year over year. Currently, I still think
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he's more of a Robin than he is a Batman,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but he's on an upward trajectory, so he could become
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a Batman potentially this year. I just think as a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: rusher he's just not there yet. In terms of a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: guy who can get you a bucket at any time.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: As a true edge one, I think he's more of
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: an edge two, again a robin to a batman, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: as a run defender legitimately an edge one, one of
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the best run defenders across any position defensively in all
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: of the football. Also, just I mentioned this before, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: some of the shows like seventy pressures last year regular season, postseason,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: very nice. Twenty eight of them came in three games.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Two of those games were against very bad offensive lines
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and Tennessee. So he really eight in three
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: games that really inflated those numbers. But again, dominate bad guys.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: That's fine, eat against bad teams, that's fine. Be able
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to impact the game. I'm not saying he's bad to
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: add some context for some things. But part of the
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: reason why I think he's so so much in that
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: conversation of like a guy who needs to take a
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: step forward. And again I've said this before, and I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: said this to the Joey Bosa focused episode that we
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: had about a month or so ago. I think the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Bills need group to make a jump to a true
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: overall edge one versus the run and the past because
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is a wildcard, Dudu's injury concerns, and if
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the Bills are going to have a true edge one
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, it's either going to their best
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: shot at that is either Joey Bosa or Greg Russo.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And if Joey Bosa keeps getting banged. If Joey Bosa
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: is healthy, he is edge one from a pass rush perspective,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: he can still get it done. He's actually a good
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: run defender too, but they don't need him to play
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the run. And why I bother putting him out there
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: for extra snaps to get beat up when you don't
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: need him to get beat up. If Bosa's healthy, he
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: is a true edge one as a pass rusher. I
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: think he will be better in this defense than von
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Miller would was last year and would be this year.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So if Bosa's healthy, I think he's their edge one
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. He can be the batman to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: groups Robin. The problem is the injury concerns and the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: inconsistencies inconsistency that comes along with it for Bosa, So
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I think they need Rousseau to take that jump to
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the edge one as a pass rusher, because at some point,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: maybe a lot, maybe a little, maybe only a little
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: in a really important game, maybe only a little in
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a game that doesn't matter, Bosa is going to get
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: banged up. He's either going to be out and unable
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to play, or he's going to be playing banged up
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: and he's going to be diminished. I think Groot needs
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to take that step up. He is probably the most
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: important person that I think needs to take another step
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: forward in his game just because of where position that
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: he plays and the questions amongst that defensive line and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: amongst that edge grouping and how many guys need to play.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I think he needs to take another step forward in
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: his game for the defense, for the defense to thrive
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: this season. So again, Charles, this is one for that
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: buck in that question you mentioned earlier, and even aside
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: from that from you know, Charles's question there, which I'm
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: gonna continue to reference here because it really it really
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: fits for these next two guys I'm talking about, one
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of them being Gregoru, So it just matters a lot.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I still think one of the biggest questions for this
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: defense for me this year is who provides the pass rush?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Is it, you know, kind of do they do it
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: in the aggregate and they just have several dudes that
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: can go after they have Do they have several guys
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that just play at like a B to a bleed
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: B plus level as rushers, which will be fine, But
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna have that, Like aj
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Panessa took a bit of a step back as a
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: pass rusher last year, even though he took a step
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: up as a run defender. How are they gonna use
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Michael Hoyt and again he has that six game suspension.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Are you getting anything out of Javon Solomon? What do
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you getting of land In Jackson? Like there's just I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: just think there's questions at this grouping. You know, we
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: talked about boths already, so their best or most realistic
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I think scenario in terms of getting a lot of
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: top tier production at the edge spot is Greg Russo
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: taking a jump and again he got paid this offseason,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: which is very nice. Oh comment following up here from
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Garris Jerris, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Apologies from I'm pronouncing that correctly, but he says I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: love in regards with Sean mcdermcmmon from earlier. I love
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: them in the regular season, don't get me wrong, But
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs he turns into Mike Tomlin. I mean
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Mike. You think Mike Tomas a bad playoff coach?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Is that a common thing? Am I out on the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: loop on that? I think Mike Tomlin's a good coach.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's m I think that some of
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the shine has left him the past couple of years.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: But dude's got a ring. He's got some pretty good success.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I would take a ring, but that's fair. Connor saying thoughts.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: In the additions of Ryan Nielsen and Mike Pelagreno, I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: think new coaching higres can make it difference. I like
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the Nielsen higher. I think it means we'll see more
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: games up front, more slants and stunts and twists and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: five man pressures, which I'm very excited for. I think
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that'll also unlock to rel Bernard. I'm excited for what
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: it means from a pressure standpoint, which I think is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: very helpful because I don't want to bank on them
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: having a true edge one and a guy who can
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: go get them a bucket off the edge and win
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: one on one at any point. So I think they're
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: gonna have to do it schematically, and I think Nielsen
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: is a really big help in that way. So I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: also have where are my notes on it? Ah? Uh
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: bomb bum No, where is it?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I had the five man pressure rates? Ah? Yes, the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Jags, Ryan Nielsen was their defensive coordinator,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: they had the third highest five man pressure rate in
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the league, and in twenty twenty three, when he was
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons, they also had the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: third highest five man pressure rate in the league. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say we will see more
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: five man pressures. I just don't know how much, because again,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: the Bills traditionally have been a you know, rush for
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: type of group, but when healthy two seasons ago, they
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: were throwing more simulated pressures, more creepers, and some more
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: five man stuff. So with Bernard and hopefully a healthy
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Matt Milano and the injection of Nielsen, I'm hoping we
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: get more of that. As far as Pellegrino, I think
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: it means we'll get some more single high stuff, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I think we'll get some more man coverage, not necessarily
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to a Patriot level where they were like league leaders
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: in man coverage and single high. But I think from
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a high leverage or a higher leverage standpoint situation, like
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: maybe more on third downs, maybe more in the red zone,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: maybe against some more certain looks. I think they're just
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: bringing in Pellegrino to help coach up guys and restrict airspace.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And more man coverage is something that I want to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: see within this defense. And more press both in man
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, it could be pressed, bail, whatever, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I want more actual press man jam guys at the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: line could be a soft shoe where we're just you know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: taking away space with our body and with our feet.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But I want to reroute guys. I want to disrupt
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: timing and I want to restrict airspace.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: So I.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Am a fan of both of those moves. Another follow
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: up here from Garris. Jarris, again, I'm gonna keep saying it,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and maybe you corrected me down at the bottom, but
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I haven't reached that yet. Who says, don't get me confused.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a negative Nancy, but I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: have the same feelings towards Mike tom And and Todd Bowles
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: that's fair and understandable. I also, I think for me,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it's just so hard to win a Super Bowl, like
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the odds of one team winning it versus the entire field.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: The odds are with the field unless you're the Chiefs
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: seemingly get to the Super Bowl every year. But and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: again I say this as a person, there are schematic
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: problems or schematic issues that I have with Sean mcdermot's
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: defenses in Buffalo for the past several years. And I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: think a lot of those issues rear their head come
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: playoff time and from a matchup standpoint. So I'm not
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: some huge proponent of him, but I just don't know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I just firing him could lead to worse results just
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: as much as it could lead to better results. So
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm just not on that, like when is
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: he going to get fired? He's terrible type of deal.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And again the variables of injuries and talent and lack thereof,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: but you could also tie into development, YadA YadA. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: think there's so many variables in so much context there.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: But I do think your thought process isn't isn't crazy,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and I do think it's fair. I'm just not on
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that kind of fire McDermott wagon At this point, Connor
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: says Group twenty eight SAC Defensive Player of the Year
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: John Robertson, I read Greg Russome play inside more he could,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you know, you could see him inside, You could see
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Hoyt inside, you could see Epeness inside, you could see Bosa,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you can see Landon Jackson. I mean they've got a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: lot of flexibility once Ogun job and Hoyter back from
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: suspension in terms of who they can line up where,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: even with Ed Oliver and Sanders like, they have a
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: lot of rush flexibility on the interior. Not so much
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: from a run defense standpoint, but from a rush standpoint. Sure,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Charles saying Groot is paid like an edge two to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: be fair, is I feel like, let's see, from a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: total value standpoint, he is one two three four, five, six,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: seven eight nine, he is the ninth highest paid edge
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: in the entire NFL from a total contract value standpoint,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and from an average annual value standpoint, he is one
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: two three four, five, six, seven, eight nine, ten eleven twelve.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: From an average annual value standpoint, I was gonna say,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted to confirm that similar from a total guaranteed standpoint,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: similar from a fully well from a fully guaranteed standpoint,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: he's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight. I
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to confirm. I want to get the numbers just
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: before I spoke on it. I think he's paid more
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: like an edge one. I think he's paid. I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: they paid him now with the thought that he will
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: continue his upward trajectory and a year or two from
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: now he's a true overall edge one because he is
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: still getting better, like the ceiling. I don't think he's
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: hit the ceiling yet. I don't think he's gonna plateau.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think he has plateau. It's just a matter
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: of does he keep going up at this level or
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: is it more of a flatter type of line that
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: he goes up. But yeah, I think he's paid more
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: like an edge one. Just from the actual monetary standpoint,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: he's paid like a top ten edge in the league.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's in a top ten edge
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: in the league overall, and if he is, it's more
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: because the run defense standpoint. But fair point Royce saying,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: sitting here wondering if Ed Oliver is on your list too,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to go see John Robert saying Greg is only twenty five,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: he should have a long career. I agree James saying
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: defense has to get off the field on third down
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: one of the worst in the league and two reliant
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: on turnovers. Oh, I don't know where they stood from
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a league wide standpoint, but yeah, I really feel like
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: they got gutted on a lot of third downs last
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: year in not great ways. Yeah, I kind of want
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to look that up. Can never find that, Kay Moore,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he says, speaking of coaching Highers, what's your opinion on Rebovic?
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Green Bay fans seem and not like him, but he's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: been in charge of some really good d lines in
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the past. You know what, I haven't watched a ton
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: of Packers tape from a defensive standpoint. I've watched a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: ton of Packers offense. I love what they did from
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: a run game standpoint last year, the pony personnel stuff,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the gap scheme stuff, the motions that they were using.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I really really really liked their run game and Jordan
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Love and Tucker Craft and Josh Jacobs. So I watched
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a ton of Packers offense, I haven't watched a ton
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of defense. My thing with him being there. Again, he's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: an assistant defensive line coach. I still think Marcus West
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: is going to have the largest voice there or the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: loudest voice. But Nielsen I think matters so much, so much,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: so much more. I think Nielsen is more of the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: straw that stirs the drink and is more of the story. Yeah. Again,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I think he'll have a voice. But I can't really
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: speak to a lot of the Packers defense stuff. I
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: haven't watched a ton of their tape in the past year's.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: When I did, it was more like secondary focus and
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: watching jay R Alexander. But yeah, I remember. I think
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: he's been with the Packers from like twenty twenty two
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: or twenty twenty three, all from like a rush standpoint,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like a pass rush guy, defensive line guy, and they've
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: had some talent there and some dudes that have gotten
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: after it. I just don't know much of how much
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: of an imprint he's gonna leave or have here, given
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the presence of Marcus West and then Nielsen as well.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Bum bum bum the Tommy Irrang Garrison. Yeah, without a doubt,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Tomlin as far as defensively he's been in the playoffs,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I'm a Jags fan, So imagine how surprised I was
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: when we beat them in twenty seventeen with portals at
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: QB and our only weapon being Fournette. Bro that year,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the Jags were what it was like what third and nineteen,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: like a third and nineteen or whatever completion from Tom
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Brady to Julian Edelman that if that completion doesn't happen,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the Jags are going to the Super Bowl. Jags almost
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: went to the to the Super Bowl that year, like
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: they realistically could have beaten that They're not even could
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: have like should have beaten the Patriots in the AFC Championship.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: They went from barely getting by the Bills in the
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: wild card to beaten and stomping the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, they had they had the Pats right there,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and I think it was like it was definitely third
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and long, and I think it was a completion from
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Brady to Edelman in their own end and that swung
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it towards the end, like literally, if the Jags would
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: have gotten that stop, the Patriots punt, and I think
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the game would have been close to being over if
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I remember correctly. But there cool, Charles, says Blitz Terran
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and Bernard Moore. Also, let's go back to this Jags
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: fan comment, the Jags need to bring back their retro
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: jerseys and stay with them. I need more of than
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Mark Brunell, Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell, Tony Boselli. Jags unis
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that they started a rock as an alternate last year.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Get rid of these new ones, go back to the
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: old school ones and commit to it. Same thing with
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the logo on the helmet, all of it, Charles says
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Blitz Terran and Bernard Moore. Yes, absolutely, also a good
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: point here on Mike tom And Yes, given credit for
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but he did inherit a team from Kower.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: That is a very fair point. Pete says, we just
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: need one of our new additions on defense to be
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: good good, and we're already much closer. I think that.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's somewhat fair. The question just is like,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: who is that gonna be? Like Larry Ogunjobi I think
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: has deficiencies as a run defender and holding up against
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: double teams. Michael Hoy I like a lot. I think
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good chess piece. I don't know
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: if he's the good good guy. Landon Jackson, it's tough
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: because he's a rookie. T J. Sanders is tough because
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: he's a rookie, like who again. That's why I think
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the best bet is like you make the case like
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: what's better like a like I don't think ogen Jobi's
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be I think ok Jobe's gonna be good. I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be good good. I think Hoyd
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: has a chance to be good good, but I don't
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: necessarily see it happening. It's gonna depend a lot on
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: scheme and how they use him, which I really hope
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: they use him how he was used in LA and
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: they don't just make him like a four to three
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: edge and just diminish his schematic usage. That would be
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: really disappointing. But I think his good good is kind
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: of limited by the scheme part. And then you kind
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: of play the game of like what's more likely getting
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: good good from like TJ Sanders or Landon Jackson or
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, Like what do you bet on a rookie
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: being good good or Joey Bosa staying healthy? Bits. So
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point. I think they need
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: more than one of the new additions to be good
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: good and we're already much closer. Yeah, I think they
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: need I think they need multiple step ups. They need
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: multiple guys to go up like some kind of letter grade,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: like they need somebody to go from a B to
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: an A minus, or they need like two guys going
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: from a B to a B plus. I think they
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: need multiple step ups in some form or fashion. With
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: how much defensive lines rotate nowadays and how much they're
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: gonna have to battle overs to run in the past.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Rice's power to the tree. They can very much recognize
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: in the tree, Roy, I'm gonna drop that comment down
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, we uh actually you know, drop the
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: banner there too. Yeah, we got a little bit uh
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Fourth of July action here, so we'll star spangled tree
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: action there. Just some red, white and blue garland on
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the silver tree with the lights hanging out there, so
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: it kind of has a little fire type of feel
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: to it. Appreciate you, Roy for recognizing that. Thank you
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: very much. And my wife didn't do the tree this time.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I did it, so I'm very proud of how it
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: came out, and I want to thank myself. I also
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: got a little American snoopy up there, even though I'm
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: not the biggest uh eah, that's a I don't want
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: to get into that conversation, but yeah, I did the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: tree myself, so I'm proud of it. Thank you very much. Oh,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: John says over under twenty three and a half sacks
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: by our defensive ends combined. Oh wow, by just the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: defensive ends. That's tough. I'm gonna under under Yeah, damn yeah.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry to bring up that painful memory for the jack
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: You guys should have beaten the Patriots. Should have been
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a Jag super Bowl. Mhm mm hmmm. Pete says, realistically,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Bosa is the most likely stud in a lot of ways.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: He was nice in the playoffs at least, and then
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Pete piles by saying, I'm pulling for Sanders to find
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: his rhythm as the season progresses. I think Sanders is
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: going to be fine as a rusher and as a
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: penetrator and a gap shooter. My question with Sanders is
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: the same question I have for the majority of the
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: interior defensive line that they have. Is what happens from
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: a displacement standpoint when someone throws a double team at him?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Does he get blown? Off the ball or is he
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: able to drop the knee or anchor and withstand that
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: double team? Can he reduce his surface area? Can he
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: gum up the works if he can't? How much of
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a liability is he? Is he able to win with
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: penetration consistently? And what does the Bills defense do right?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Are they just setting guys up forssessed by slant um
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and stunting him a bunch doing run blitz? Is I
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: just worry about him from a run defense standpoint, from
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: a havoc standpoint, a pass rush standpoint, I think he's
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: got the juice and the violence and the penetration and
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: pop to be a factor as a pass rusher on
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: the inside. My question is more from a run defense standpoint.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And then with Lario and Joby, I honestly kind of
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: have the same questions, but with ogn Jobey beans suspended. TJ.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Sanders is defensive tackle three going into this season. You
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: got Ed, you got Daikwon, and then Sanders is right
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: behind him. Like Sanders needs to find his rhythm early
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and to start. Also, I don't want to judge anyone
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: off the first game, Like I could really see the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Ravens offense just coming into Buffalo, and I'm not saying
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna win, but I could see them
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: just beating the hell out of the Bills defensive line
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and spine and people pushing him left, right and center.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Not just Sanders, but like everybody and then everybody from
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: a Bills fans standway mean the goal this defense sucks.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Sanders was a bust YadA YadA. It's just such a
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: bad matchup for the Bills and most teams across the league.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: But I digress. All right, next on this list who
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier, wondering if Yeah, Royce said sitting here
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: wondering if Ed Oliver is on your list, We have
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: two to go. Ed Oliver is on the list. He
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: is the next defensive pillar of the twenty twenty five
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Bills defense and also falls into Charles's comment from earlier
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: of like, top five guys on defense that need to
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: take another step forward and their played for the defense
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to thrive. I want to say two things about at Oliver. One,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's a pillar. To what's unfortunate about that
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: is he's the guy where I think you start to
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: like the way we started here on this list, right,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: like Benford Pillar. I think he also stacks up well
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: up against other corners in the league. Right with where
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: he ranks, Like worst case scenario, he's like corner twelve,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: which I think is really good, but I think he's
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: actually a bit higher than that. Tarren Johnson one of
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the best nickels in the league. Also important of the Bills,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Greg Russou. Where does he fit? Like? What edge level
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: is he in the league? Is he at top ten edge?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Is he at top fifteen? Is he a top twelve whatever?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Something like that. Ed Oliver I think is such an
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: interesting one because he flashes true game wrecking ability against
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: both the run at pass, at pass against both the
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: run and pass, and then he also disappears for stretches
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: both like in games like he's gone from second through
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the third quarter or for the second half or for
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: the first half. Then he also disappears like a cross games.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, did he even play weeks like
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: six through eight. He didn't. It felt like he wasn't
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: even on the field, so he disappears a bit. I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: think he had a better year on tape in twenty
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: twenty four than the stats indicate. There was a lot
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: of coverage and rush disconnection last year for the Bills
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: defense in general, and I think it hurt him significantly.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: But he needs to be a game wrecker more consistently
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: on the inside. And he's one who man like if
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you're talking about like the top defensive tackles in tier
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: defensive lineman in the league. I don't know where he ranks.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's top ten, i'd have to fit.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: It's probably he's definitely top twenty. I probably somewhere like
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the median range of like top fifteen kind of maybe.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: But there's times where he looks like a top five
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: edge in league. And his numbers two years ago were
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: tremendous and his tape two years ago was tremendous, But
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: then he kind of disappears. He didn't really have a
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: good game when they need him against Kansas City in
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the Division around two years ago. Granted, there are a
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: bunch of injured dudes on the Bills defense, and maybe
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the offense was able to give him more attention to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense. Then this past AFC Championship, Bill's defense
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: plays bad and Oliver has a great game, like the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: plays he made against the run and as a rusher
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game against the Chiefs. He had
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: like like two plays or three plays in a row
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: where he just game wreck and he flashes that ability
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: like it's just Aymorey says it, like one game at
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: his top ten and then a game ED is top
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: ten non existent. Ed is a sad face. Yeah, you
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: just you just see it. And Andy says it here
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: too with Ed. He just needs to be consistent week
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: to week. That's it, right. I just don't want the
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: dips in the valleys. I don't want him to play
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: like a top five edge and then play like a
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: top twenty five edge. Just consistently play like a top
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: twelve edge. Just be consistently top ten and you don't
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: have to be inside the top ten like six or seven.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Just play like eight to ten. That's it. Just do that.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Just be consistent. No more disappearing. But I think he
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: is someone who needs to take a step up in
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: his game, and that step up is more consistency. As
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: you know, you guys said in the chat and as
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I have here in my notes, Like he flashes that
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: game wrecking ability and then you're like, did he play
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and then you look at the snaps and you're like, yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: he did, where was he? And then watch the tape
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, he needs to be more of
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: an impact guy. And with what that rest of what
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: the rest of that interior looks like. And I talked
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: about it a bit. You know, Larry O and Jovie
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: suspended for six games. T J. Sanders is a rookie.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter is shown very little. We have no idea
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: what we're getting from Dion Walker or anybody else. Daikwon
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Jones is another year older and is becoming more siloed
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: in his role. You need in an ideal world. Ed
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Oliver and Greg Russeau both take a step up. Rousseau
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I think takes a step up in his game. Ed
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: takes a step up in his consistency. I think you
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: need that from both of those guys because there's just
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: questions those though. These are two veterans within the defense.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I know Grut is still young, but these are guys
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: who have been in the system, ben in the scheme,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: They're battle tested. They both need to take a step
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: up in their game in some form or fashion. Again,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Groots is more game related, Ed's is just more consistency related,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: but they need that like and especially considering Ed is
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: locked into a contract through the twenty twenty seven season
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: at a position in interior defensive line where the Bills
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: have questions seemingly every year. Like Larry Ogunjobi's on a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: one year we don't maybe Dwyane Carter is even on
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: the team next year, Maybe Dean Walker does work out
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: at all, Like dayk One is older. I think this
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: is his last year on contract, so you're looking at
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the team next year, and it's just it could be
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: just at Oliver and t J. Sanders, like you need
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Ed Oliver step up and rightly or wrongly, he is
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: one of the better players on this Bill's defense, and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: he flashes like one of the better players at his
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: position league wide. But then you also get those dips
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and those valleys in his game where man, you just
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: don't see him. And I think that's where it like
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: averages out, like sometimes he's up here and sometimes he's
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: way down here, and this kind of averages out to
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: like here. But the dips and valleys, the ebbs and flows,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: they are concerning. He needs more consistency to his game. Regardless,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: he is a pillar. He is one of the more
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: important players on this Bill's defense. He just needs consistency
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and they need that from him. Man, it'd be really
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: interesting to kind of I don't want to rank him
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: amongst defensive tackles, but I was looking at contracts earlier
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: and it's this is a little scary. RJ says, Ravens
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: are going to destroy And I meant looking at contracts
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: in terms of like ranking everybody kind of just not
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: necessarily like where he's paid, because he's his contract is paid. Fine,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: he's like, I think it's like fourteenth or fifteen something
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: in that range, but like ranking them from a contract,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: but from like a play standpoint, a skill set standpoint,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and production standpoint. It's a conversation. Urie says, the Ravens
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: are going to destroy us that opening game. They will
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: be game planning for us the entire offseason. Yeah, they
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: might be very motivated. We will see. I'm very interested
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: to see that. Argi just says, but it's a regular
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: season game and not the playoffs. I think we will
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: beat them again in January, yeah, or the Ravens will
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: keep beating themselves like they have for the last like
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: four or five years. They just can't get out of
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: their own way in the playoffs. Like it's not even
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: just Lamar, it's like everybody, which is weird because they're
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: like a playoff tested organization and coaching staff, but they
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: just cannot get out of their own way. And the
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: playoffs we'll see kind of what they become. Andy says,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I'll take eighty percent of Ed's abilities every week over
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent and fifty. That's exactly it. Yep. Just
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: be an eight out of ten consistently, don't be a
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: ten and then don't be a five. Just being eight
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: out of ten consistently, and that's awesome. Jason says, not
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: only a July fourth three, but a July fourth Snoopy,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: this is an elite level background game. Thank you very much,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: very much. I guess again again. I want to point
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: it out that I did this background myself. This is
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: all me. Normally my wife does it. I did it
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: this time. I just want to shout myself out there.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Claude says, Hey, is this a
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: new day for you? Just or just a one off?
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Just a one off. I will be back to Tuesdays
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Live at nine pm Eastern this upcoming Tuesday. JP Acosta
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: joins me, and then I have another guest the following
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: week after that to kick off training camp week. So
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: it'll be good. It'll be good. It'll be good. It'll
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: be good. Okay, so at Oliver last one here? Who?
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: And then I have two honorable mentions. But my last
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: defensive pillar of the twenty twenty five Buffalo Bills Treu Bernard.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I just I hate using this phrase. I think it
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: gets overused, but quarterback of the defense like the air
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: traffic controller ability. His ability to get everybody adjusted and
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: set and aligned, and his progression in the past couple
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: of years has been awesome to see. And if Matt
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Mlana was healthy, I think Bernard and Matt Milano can
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: be one of the best linebacker duos in the entire league.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: From a mental standpoint, from a covered standpoint, from a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: run defense standpoint, I think if Mlonald's healthy, Bernard and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Milano have the chance to be like a top five
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: linebacker duo, maybe even top three. But sticking with Bernard
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: coverage ability, pattern recognition. His size is a bit of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: a limitation, but he knows that and he knows how
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to mitigate it. When Eric and I talked to him
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: in the film room, you know. That was one of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: the things we talked about, like sometimes having to take
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: on blockers, but also kind of being able to avoid
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: him and dip and dive and duck and dodge and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: whatever the fifty is. That's a repeat of one of
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the others. He knows how to play to his limitations
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: and how to work around them. I do think part
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: of his success is tied to the front and the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: defensive line, so he needs help, like he needs to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: keep offensive lineman. He needs help keeping offensive linemen off
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: of him, like climbing guards and offensive linemen being able
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: to get to him clean and have good angles against him.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: He needs the interior up front to gum up the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: works more and allow him to play free. I don't
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: think he's like the sexiest type of player, but he's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: just a really, really solid player. And tying some of
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: this into the Ryan Neilsen piece. If the Bills can
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: get more creative in their fronts with simulateds and creepers
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and five man pressures, I think Bernard can have a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: difference making kind of year with splash plays and negative
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: play creation. As a force multiplier, he is a tremendous
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: blitzer in terms of his timing and in terms of
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: his violence. I would like them to use him more
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: in that regard. Oh as I see this down here,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Charles says, Bernard's a sneaky good blitzer. Absolutely. Some of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: my favorite plays of him when he was at Baylor,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: when I was watching his college tape coming out, or
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: his blitzes, like he's blowing up guards, he's blown up
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: running backs, like he's getting to the quarterback, or he's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: just detonating on somebody and letting someone else come free.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Like use him on cross dogs, use him on stunts
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: and games, like he could be the spiker, he can
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: be the looper whatever. Like he's just such a good
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: heat seeking missile coming forward. He's a guy who got
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: paid this offseason. He I think has started to inherit.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: You know, so much of this defense from a brain
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: trust standpoint, was, you know, hide employer and Milana a bit,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: and Taron Johnson a bit, Tremaine Evans a bit, you know,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Trevious White a bit, and then there's those guys kind
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: of stepped away and Milonald got injured, Trey got injured.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: It was just kind of like hiding Poyer and tarn
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: and then hide and Poyer go away. Milano gets injured
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: and it, you know, so much of the adjustments for
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: this defense and finding of falling on to Bernard and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Taron Johnson and Taylor Rap to a degree, but Milonal
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: coming back I think is a boon to Bernard and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: a boon to Milano. But anyway you slice it, especially
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: with the questions at the linebacker position next year, you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: with Mlonald's updated contract, is he a bill next year?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: We'll see is he? How healthy is he? This year?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Bernard becomes an important piece on that second level of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the defense at a position that kind of has some
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: questions about it with you know, a former All Pro
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and Matt Malonald being banged up and being a little
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: longer in the tooth, then maybe having some questions about
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: his performance this year and then contract in future going forward.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think Bernard is one of the pillars
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: as well, somebody who's really stepped up league wide. I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: think is an interesting conversation. I know a lot of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to speak on it because I'm
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: not trying to get yelled that, but I know a
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: lot of Bills fans think Bernard is like a top
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: five linebacker in the league at times, or make it easy,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: top ten. I don't know where i'd rank him, so
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: don't ask me. But he's a very good player, very
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: good player within this defense. Fits what they do so
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: well mentally and physically. I'm still not used to the
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: number change from forty three to eight. It's going to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: take me a while to get used to that. But
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: definitely a pillar of this defense. Two honorable mentions again,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: just for twenty twenty five, I mentioned one of them.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about him again. Matt Milano. I've
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: contemplated doing a full Matt Mlonald based episode. I just
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: haven't had the time to cut up all the film
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: and do kind of what I would I would want
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: to do for that from a thorough perspective, But with
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: each game that passed. Last year's first game was against
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: the nine in the snow, so a little wonky in general.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: But with each subsequent game, going all the way through
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the AFC Championship against the Chiefs, he got better. Each week.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: His timing got better, his speed got better, the physicality
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: got better, his angles got better, and by the time
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: we're in the AFC Championship, and he is running down
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Mahomes in space and finishing him in space on you know,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: a third and long when they're running odd mirror and
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: he's the aggressive spy. It was really encouraging. You saw
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: the shades and the flashes of that All Pro Matt
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Malonald that was in there. If Milano can stay healthy,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's it's it's two f of Milana, right,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: like Ken if he stays healthy, right, and how much
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: of his former self does he play too? Like? So
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: can he stay healthy? Cool? And then if he can,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: is he eighty percent of the All pro that he
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: was a couple years ago? Is he seventy percent? Is
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: he ninety? Is he one hundred? If he is any
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: significant semblance of his former All pro self, he is
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: one one thousand percent a pillar of this defense and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: one of the better players on this defense. Again, there's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: two former not including Bosa, two former All pros well,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: and not including Trey White because he's a deaf guy,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: but he can kind of include him in what if
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: you want. But Milana was one of the former All
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: pros on this defense, and again it was just a
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  Speaker 1: couple of short years ago. I know a lot is
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  Speaker 1: transpired in that time, but he was one of the
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  Speaker 1: top linebackers in the league, like two years a couple
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: of years ago. You can make the case he was
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  Speaker 1: like a top three like linebacker. It was like, oh man,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: there's Rokwan and Fred Warner and then it was Matt
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  Speaker 1: Mlano or like Fred and Brokuan and Milano. However, we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to put him up there, but like worst case Snario,
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  Speaker 1: like Milana was like a top five but a borderline
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  Speaker 1: top three lock at the linebacker spot and had an
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  Speaker 1: all Pro season to watch to match on tape and
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  Speaker 1: with the advanced metrics. If he's healthy, that step one
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  Speaker 1: and then two is how much of his former self
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  Speaker 1: can he be. He's an easy defensive pillar for twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five. We don't know if he's gonna be on
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  Speaker 1: the team in twenty twenty six. We don't know. That
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  Speaker 1: means obviously, a good and health healthy twenty twenty five
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: could lead to him staying around. I do think he's
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  Speaker 1: one of the more important players on this defense because
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  Speaker 1: when Matt Mallana was on, he is just a chaos
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  Speaker 1: creator and him and Bernard I think it was gonna
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: be such a good pair because they both can create
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  Speaker 1: chaos and they both can clean up and finish. And
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  Speaker 1: being able to have two guys that can do that
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  Speaker 1: and play off with one another with the schematic potential
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  Speaker 1: of what Ryan Nielsen has been in the past and
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  Speaker 1: what I think that what I hope this defense realize
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  Speaker 1: they need to be this year could be really fun.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: So again, Milana is an honorable mention for defensive Pillar
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: for this year. And then we talked about him a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. I think if Bosa's healthy, he's an easy
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: defensive pillar for twenty twenty five and the best pass
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  Speaker 1: rusher on this team. It's just a matter of if
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  Speaker 1: he's healthy or not. I did a full episode on
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: him when the injury news broke, what a month or
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: so ago. I don't want to bang that drum too much. Again,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: we talked about him a bit earlier. But if Bosa's healthy,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: he's the best pass rusher at the edge spot, the
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: best pass rusher on this team, and a true at
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: one who can get you a bucket. It's just gonna
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: be a matter of if he's healthy or not, which
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: is already a significant if. And then he got hurt
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: this offseason already, so not not great. But Pete says,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Bernard has that Johnny on the spot thing about him
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  Speaker 1: that shows up a timely moments. He turns the tide
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: and closes a lot of games to splash plays. I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: think that's fair. I kind of knew what you're going
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: at with them. He corrected and made say just in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: case somebody's reading was like, that doesn't stay tied, it
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: says tie. He corrected it and said tie. Jason says,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: and then reference to Milana what the team did with
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: his contract. It makes me feel like they don't think
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: he is going to consistently stay healthy anymore. They love him,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: but don't think he will be reliably healthy anymore. And
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: and he says, and it does kind of feel like that. Yeah,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I second that notion. James mentions that he ran down Bonix.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Not an easy feet Bonix, sneaky athletic, good on the move,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: good mobile quarterback. Yeah. Again, with each subsequent game, he
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: got better and better, taking on blocks, shooting gaps, finishing
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: making plays. Hopefully doesn't have to play with a brace
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: on that elbow this year. He gets better mobility, He
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: gets better movement. It was really restricting him. Early on,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: he was going to make tackles and he couldn't really
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: extend because his arm was kind of bent and in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: that position with the brace, so he couldn't really get
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: full extension and make plays with his leg with his
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: arms and kind of reach for guys, and his feet
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: weren't under him yet. So if he again, the flashes
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: were very encouraging for me. I just don't want to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: sit here and say, oh, you know, he's going to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: be back to all pro form, because he could get
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: banged up again. I'm less concerned with the injuries and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: more concerned. I'm less concerned with him getting injured again
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: and more concerned with the injuries and just general miles
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: on the tires and age catching up with him a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: bit and seeing how that impacts him. So I'm less
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: concerned with he might get hurt again. I'm more concerned
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: with how healthy is see from his previous injuries and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: you know, the miles on the tires and the wear
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: and tear and all that kind of stuff. But I
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: am very encouraged with his play down the stretch last year. Man,
• 1:09:00
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• 1:09:02
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