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Permanent Derail · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Patricia Quinn, and you're luckily listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Rainey was ill the day.
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  Speaker 1: The earth stood still But he told us where we stand.
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  Speaker 2: And Flash Gordon was there in silver underwear Claude Rains
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  Speaker 2: was the invisible man.
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  Speaker 1: Then something went wrong for Fay Wray and King Kong.
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  Speaker 2: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 2: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime, folks.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 1: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 3: Kilowatts of power. What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown,
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  Speaker 3: I'm Brian. And joining me today is... I'm Paul.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm Gina.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna roll right.
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  Speaker 3: Into it with you because in my mind you're still here, but.
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  Speaker 2: For people at home and out there in the world,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a long time, actually.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought if nothing else, that would give us.
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  Speaker 2: A good excuse to be like, hey, what have you
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  Speaker 2: watched in the last three years or whatever?
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  Speaker 5: It has not been that long.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of. I can check. They're still uploaded. So I
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  Speaker 2: can check dates. That's it. It was pre-COVID.
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  Speaker 5: No, because I think we did one over the phone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was still, that was the beginning of COVID.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: Because that was during the lockdown. I only did four
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  Speaker 2: of those episodes because I still don't really like doing
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: it that way. And we tried that because everyone was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to stay away from each other. But then I
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  Speaker 2: think we did one after that. That said, I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think that really anyone cares what we think anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they will care about these fabulous conversations we're
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  Speaker 2: about to have. I hope so.
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  Speaker 5: How long has it been since we derailed one of
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  Speaker 5: your podcasts?
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's really what it's about.
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  Speaker 2: So, now we can say.
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  Speaker 1: We sort of live for derailing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that there is a rail when I
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  Speaker 2: come here.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like a train that is.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you come into it and you have
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  Speaker 1: a program and an idea and a path.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: And we totally, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. We destroyed that.
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  Speaker 2: We find our own thing along the way. Okay. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily make sense to anyone else, or maybe even us.
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  Speaker 2: But I think I remember this part where I can say,
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  Speaker 2: we're coming to you live via digital recording from Blue
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  Speaker 2: Jay Way. Have you changed your name?
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  Speaker 1: Or are we still... Let's say no. We're keeping that.
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  Speaker 2: We still have a lot of Blue Jays. All right, then.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 6: Now we have Hawks.
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  Speaker 1: They're slowly being dispatched by Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: Hawks are... pretty plentiful i don't know if where you
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  Speaker 2: live at home if you're looking around and going like
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  Speaker 2: oh are they coming to get me because i saw
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  Speaker 2: one on the top of a telephone pole kind of
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  Speaker 2: area yesterday i think it was more of a street
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  Speaker 2: light but it was sizable it was just like yeah
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  Speaker 2: that might carry off a small child at this point yeah.
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  Speaker 6: They started with our rabbits it's wonderful it's a wonderful
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  Speaker 6: comeback story really i mean it's like rocky you know
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  Speaker 6: yeah but with raptors giant birds oh but here's.
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  Speaker 5: A weird thing so we also have mockingbirds which are
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  Speaker 5: pretty good at mimicking things but the blue jays will
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  Speaker 5: also mimic the hawks sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: And then a murder of crows will chase it.
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  Speaker 5: Away oh yeah we call them putin like putin was
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  Speaker 5: the hawk and ukraine were the crows because it was
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  Speaker 5: real weird when that all started.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah so anyway the man stands alone See? Derailed.
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  Speaker 5: The planet, not the movie.
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  Speaker 2: The Birds is a fine film. I'm a fan of it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start from there and roll on through this mess. So,
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  Speaker 2: that having been said, it's been a while, so we
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  Speaker 2: can say, hey, have you seen any movies lately? And
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  Speaker 2: we should have tons of stuff to distract ourselves with
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  Speaker 2: until this is done.
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  Speaker 1: There's a few.
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  Speaker 2: There's a few.
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  Speaker 1: But, the problem is, I don't know that I'll be
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  Speaker 1: able to recall those except for only the most very
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  Speaker 1: recent ones so it's really like this is why.
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  Speaker 5: There's a big black hole.
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  Speaker 2: A magical app that tells you i specifically updated mine
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  Speaker 2: before i left because my brain is swiss cheese at
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  Speaker 2: this point so i know i won't remember what i
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  Speaker 2: watched like last week i'll probably be okay current week
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  Speaker 2: But the week before already starts to get iffy. So
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: now for this show purposes, put an app on the
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  Speaker 2: phone so that I can only keep track. It's just
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  Speaker 2: a running list. So I can scroll back and be like,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, I watched that. That my brain is already
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  Speaker 2: very organized.
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  Speaker 5: Even if I just kept a note about what we watched,
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  Speaker 5: it would be more helpful. However, do you want to
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  Speaker 5: hear about what we watched most recently?
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Well, okay.
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  Speaker 5: So not totally most recently, but second most recently. The
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  Speaker 5: Man from UNCLE. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: All right. The not TV series.
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  Speaker 1: No. The remake.
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  Speaker 2: The movie. That may or may not have... Does this
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: one have that Superman dude in it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or is that just Mission Impossible?
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  Speaker 1: I can't keep the two.
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  Speaker 2: Is he in that?
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  Speaker 1: He's in the last Mission Impossible 2.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's so generic. Not 2, but also.
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  Speaker 5: Part of my problem is, and I'll say this because
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  Speaker 5: this is what I said the minute we started it.
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  Speaker 5: It's from like 2015.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I watched it as the sad thing,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't really remember anything.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And that was mine. I was like, it's fine. But
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  Speaker 2: it's also kind of forgettable.
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: The Guy Ritchie effect was actually, you know... Good, and
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  Speaker 1: it was a much better film than the King Arthur.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: For those of you who have been listening a really
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: long time, you heard us do an entire episode of that.
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  Speaker 5: It was so bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reason you watched that.
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  Speaker 5: So the two guys that are in that are so
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  Speaker 5: incredibly generic. That it's like, it's the dark haired guy
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  Speaker 5: and the blonde haired guy.
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  Speaker 2: See, I don't even remember who the other one was.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I think that builds one. Who was
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  Speaker 2: the other?
• 7:08
  Speaker 5: So the other was, and Paul didn't know this whole backstory,
• 7:11
  Speaker 5: which was why I brought up the backstory. Because I said, well,
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  Speaker 5: they'd have to reboot this entire thing now. Because it's
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  Speaker 5: the guy that was like.
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  Speaker 1: Named.
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  Speaker 5: The guy with the hair.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the guy with the thing.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't realize he was that tall. Armie Hammer. And
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  Speaker 5: I do remember that because his family.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so actually both of them now. Yeah. Because Armie Hammer,
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: you definitely don't want anything to do with. You definitely,
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  Speaker 2: that's a. But I keep hearing stories about Cavill.
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of on.
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  Speaker 2: The fence as well. Didn't he play Jesus? No, that's.
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  Speaker 5: Who am I thinking of?
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  Speaker 3: John.
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  Speaker 5: Krasinski?
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  Speaker 2: No. But he does have a beard now.
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  Speaker 5: You also may remember me as the person. Who always
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  Speaker 5: misremembers who's in a movie.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: We recently just had a discussion on a recent episode
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  Speaker 2: about trying to discuss a movie with your mother. You
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  Speaker 2: are officially the mom of every episode.
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  Speaker 5: Because I'm like, it's a guy with the hair and
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  Speaker 5: the legs.
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  Speaker 2: She's not really that old, but somehow she immediately got
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  Speaker 2: mom brain like really quick.
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  Speaker 5: No, I just, everybody is so generic that it's hard
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  Speaker 5: to remember who's who unless they are like that. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: so that reminds me I had a dream. It was
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  Speaker 5: totally crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, so that has Armie Hammer who threatened to
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  Speaker 5: eat a woman. Which is such a bomb way to
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  Speaker 5: say it.
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  Speaker 2: Was she tender and tasty? Because, I mean, who can
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  Speaker 2: fight that?
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  Speaker 5: I think she was a snack.
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing that I didn't get when you
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  Speaker 1: and I talked about this. How long ago has it
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  Speaker 1: been since he potentially ate someone?
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  Speaker 5: Well, he didn't eat anybody. He was not an eater.
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  Speaker 2: There was no E.T.
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  Speaker 5: He wasn't convicted of eating anybody.
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  Speaker 2: But he was definitely very creepy dude.
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  Speaker 5: He's a creepy dude.
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  Speaker 1: Was he really looking for the right person?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that he was full on cannibalism, but
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  Speaker 2: he was definitely a misogynistic asshole. I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: the story. So you say that he was basically blackballed.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's just kind of gross and a creeper.
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  Speaker 2: That's creeper. I agree. To put it in perspective, I
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  Speaker 2: did see that last murder on the Orient Express sequel movie.
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  Speaker 5: Which they totally count.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing is, it's Good. It's a really good movie.
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  Speaker 2: But if you watch the trailer, he's not in it.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know it.
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  Speaker 1: Murder on the Orient Express or Murder on the Nile?
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  Speaker 2: Part two, Nile times. Because Murder on the Orient Express
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  Speaker 2: was awesome. They're both good. But that's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: But it was hush-hush about him being in it.
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  Speaker 2: It hit right before they were about to release that movie.
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  Speaker 2: And they were like, oh shit, he's a major character
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  Speaker 2: in this movie. And we've invested millions making this movie.
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  Speaker 2: We still have to put it out. So it's happened
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  Speaker 2: within the last year. In the last year and a half,
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  Speaker 2: two years.
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  Speaker 5: So this is kind of the weird thing. So were
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  Speaker 5: both of those franchises ruined because wasn't Johnny Depp in
• 9:52
  Speaker 5: Murder on the Orient Express?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which even at the time.
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  Speaker 5: Like right around at the time.
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  Speaker 2: Which I think I've said this before when I watched it.
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  Speaker 2: So spoilers if you didn't watch it. But basically, it's
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: okay what happens. Because he's not in it much. If
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  Speaker 2: that tells you what's going on. It's a murder kind
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  Speaker 2: of movie.
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: That they had these two same.
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  Speaker 2: But I almost felt, because at that point we knew
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Johnny Depp was kind of an asshole. It was before
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: the whole trial. Right. But we already all knew he
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: was an asshole. So like when what happens happens, you're like,
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: ha ha, take that Johnny Depp. And it was okay.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a little too fresh with the cavil
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  Speaker 2: and or army hammer.
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  Speaker 5: No, the army hammer.
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  Speaker 2: All of the above. They're all creepy.
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  Speaker 5: He has this really incredibly troubled family story anyway, historically.
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  Speaker 3: Which one?
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  Speaker 2: The hammers?
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  Speaker 3: The hammers.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So there was like, his grandfather had this huge, and
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  Speaker 5: I think his... His grandfather was Art Armand Hammer.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: You know, from the baking powder company? No, who had
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  Speaker 2: this amazing art.
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  Speaker 5: Collection that toured the country. I don't know if it
• 10:50
  Speaker 5: toured the world. I mean, I'm in Kentucky Gallery. I
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: remember seeing it here. In the, like, early 80s. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it was like Renoir and, you know, just these amazing painters.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: Doesn't everyone have those?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, just an incredible art collection. Anyway, he comes
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: from a very moneyed family. Troubled moneyed family. And then
• 11:09
  Speaker 5: he had this lovely wife and like two kids, right?
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  Speaker 2: How'd those kids turn out?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: They're still young.
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  Speaker 1: He ate them all.
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  Speaker 5: They're not eating anybody. They might be eaties and not eaters.
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  Speaker 5: So it's interesting that those two really cool kind of
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: ideas of, you know, you can take this and make
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: it an interesting, you know, sequels and that kind of
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  Speaker 5: thing sort of get screwed up by these.
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  Speaker 1: Two just egos.
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  Speaker 5: They thought they could be misogynistic.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that the movie itself was... It was okay.
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  Speaker 1: It was well done. It was a well done movie.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there were.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it looked good.
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  Speaker 1: There were some moments in the script where you're like,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: that was an awful large leap. But aside from that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, stylistically.
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: I think we have the perspective of being from an
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: age where we didn't grow up with a man from Uncle,
• 12:06
  Speaker 5: but we grew up watching... reruns of like that, Hawaii Five-0, Chips,
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  Speaker 5: like stupid stuff where you were like, okay, so I'll
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  Speaker 5: give it that. I'll make the leap. But if you
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: didn't grow up around that, you'd be like, this is
• 12:17
  Speaker 5: the most stupid thing I've ever seen. The coolest thing
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  Speaker 5: about it are like the costumes and the cars and
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: the setting, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: The suits, the dresses.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the cars.
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  Speaker 5: So it was beautiful in that sense, but I think
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: it was pretty much a terrible, terrible movie. But it
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  Speaker 5: was fun enough that I would have been like, I'd
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  Speaker 5: watch a sequel.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: I don't see.
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: Because sometimes I just like dogs.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen terrible movies. It wasn't terrible.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. I remember it being somewhat competent, but
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he is, he's been doing this a while.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: He should be a competent director, but it wasn't fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: No, and I don't, how much was he involved? I
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: feel like it was like a Guy Ritchie supervised film.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing.
• 12:59
  Speaker 5: Where they were like, we'll take your effects and your style.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: That's all of his stuff. only worse and worse. That's
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: what I was trying to look up. I was like,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: he's gotten to be not only all over the map,
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  Speaker 2: but also so much of his stuff is just watered
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  Speaker 2: down now. At least he used to have a signature style,
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: whereas now I'm like, you know, from the director of Aladdin. No.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Live action Aladdin.
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: Is that out yet?
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  Speaker 2: As of 2019. No.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Come on, Grandma.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Get it together.
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: Why would I watch any Aladdin?
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: So one of the other movies that we recently watched
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: was The Menu.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I had someone bring it up lately. I have not
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: seen it, so I guess don't totally spoil it. But
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: at the same time, my question to them was, so
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: I will pose it to you, is there anything going
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  Speaker 2: on in the movie that I don't feel like I
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: already know is going on in the trailer? Because I
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: watched the trailer and would be like, well... I kind
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: of feel like I know what's happening in this movie.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's well done. It's just an hour and.
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  Speaker 2: A half longer. Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. The trailer that I watched gave me
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  Speaker 1: no information really about how everything played out. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I knew what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I still feel like I want to watch it,
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: but as soon as I saw that first trailer, I
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: was like, so it's all right there, right? So I'm
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: hoping I'm wrong.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you should watch it
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: either way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you never know what trailer.
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  Speaker 2: Either way, you should watch it. Feels like it should
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: have had Armie Hammer in it, right? I mean, it
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: was called The Menu. Feels like that's the misstep there,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: is it should have been starring. But wait.
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  Speaker 5: So let me go back to.
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  Speaker 2: My point about.
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  Speaker 5: Having to watch anything with Armie Hammer or Henry Cavill.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: I feel like they're two of the most generic looking
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: men I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's part of my problem with him.
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  Speaker 5: The blonde guy and the dark haired guy. I didn't
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: know Armie Hammer was so tall. That was the thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the thing with both of them. They're
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  Speaker 2: forgettable in giant leading man roles sometimes. There's nothing about them.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing to them.
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  Speaker 5: To bring you in. They have no charisma. They have
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: no charm.
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  Speaker 2: And that was my issue. I mean, not that I
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: haven't bitched about this a million times on this show,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: but that's my issue with Cavill as Superman. It was like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: he doesn't make me even want to care about Superman.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: And I already don't really care about Superman as a character. Again,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: if I'm going to pick somebody... Batman is dark and
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: screwed up and like he's got something to latch on
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: to and like at least there's some drama there where
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Superman as a character even in like comic books cartoons
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: he's perfect he's a fucking god so I'm like why
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  Speaker 2: do I want to care about him The only thing
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: that set it aside when I was a kid was
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Christopher Reeve. Christopher Reeve had so much charisma.
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  Speaker 5: Or did he?
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: That I'm like, no, he did. Because I've watched him recently.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, he's just so good. That I'm just like,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: you make me care about Superman. And I don't otherwise.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Can I tell you what I think about that?
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: I think we had no superhero films when we were kids.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: That helps too. Except Superman.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: But.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, that at least changed it because now we
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: have a million things to compare every superhero movie to. But,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've gone back, not just the Superman, but
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I've watched him in several other things lately and Christopher
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Reeve was just fucking good. He was just way talented
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: at bringing something else going on. Watch, and I brought
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it up so I won't go too far into it,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: but if you haven't seen or it's been a long
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: time since you've seen Death Trap, he is so good
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: in that. It is like so layered. It's been a
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: long time. And like subtle as to what, because it
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: would be really easy to do that over the top
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: in a couple of different ways. And he kind of
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: knows where that line is and doesn't cross it ever.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: And makes like their relationship between all of the characters
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: really good and interesting.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: I would watch that again.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been forever. Yeah, that one is really interesting.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: And even like, again, I've watched other stuff lately that
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: had him in it that I hadn't seen before. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, he just kind of sucks you in
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: as a leading man more so than.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Henry Cavill, who does not, he don't care.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Cavill just doesn't bring anything to anything. I've seen him
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: in things that he's tolerably in. Again, that Mission Impossible movie.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: He's good because he's kind of the dick and we
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: all buy him as a dick. So like he's there
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: to go head to head with our... Ethan or whatever.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Whatever that dude's name is. Top Gun.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: So he's there to fight Top Gun.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And they legitimately beat each other's ass. And he's good
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: as this action star in this movie who's playing an asshole.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Because we buy him as an asshole. Yeah. But as
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: far as him being a character that you want to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: care about, no, I don't see that at all.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Have you, speaking of, have you watched Top Gun Maverick since.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: You brought it up. Since I brought it up specifically. Okay,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that's another one that the trailer almost killed for me.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Because I don't know that I cared about them making
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: a sequel anyway. And I watched the trailer in whatever
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I was seeing in the theater and I was like,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it looks like they have gone and pieced together every
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: scene from the first movie that people remember and talk about.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: And done a new old man version of it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I've already seen that movie. Why do I need to see?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Now granted, I've heard tons of people go on and
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: on about how great this movie is. So eventually I
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: guess I will.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: You know what, Brian?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I just felt like it was a rehash and that's
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: not the way people are treating it. So I may
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: be wrong. I assume I'm wrong. I completely agree with you. Well,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I'll say this.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: If you were interested in my opinion, I'd say it
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: is on par with The man from Uncle.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, even if you say the
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: original Top Gun, that's not saying much.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, I think it's better than
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: the original Top Gun.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Because when I watched Top Gun as a dumb kid,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, awesome, planes, woohoo. And I went back
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and revisited it even in the last 10 years. It
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: hasn't been recently, but I watched it just because. And
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is just a big Harlequin romance
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: novel that has side playing scenes. And then they come
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: back and it's just a big sappy romance. Except Goose does.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Spoiler alert.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: As long as you make Jennifer Connelly show up. Everybody
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: loves Jennifer Connelly.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And Meg Ryan.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Not me. Meg Ryan's overrated. I have old time performances
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of Meg Ryan that were okay. I did not go
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: into her the way America seemed to love her.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: I have a segue.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I have a segue.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: So last night, Jean fell asleep for this, but I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: started watching Armed and Dangerous with john candy.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: John candy i can picture the vhs cover right in.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Uh uh eugene levy eugene levy yeah and of course
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: meg ryan is in it and several.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Other notable people i don't think i even saw it
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: i just remembered it from back in the day i
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: would it it was let's say this it was not
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: a good film.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It was another tolerable film. I was watching it and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'm just going to keep watching it
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to stay away because I want to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: see how it ends.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Even though I'd seen it before.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: See, even.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: And.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait a minute. And I was so
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: curious about the, you know, oddity that is Armed and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Dangerous that I had to Google... Some of the people
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: in it. And, of course, I found out that Stacey
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Keech's dad, Stacey Keech Sr., plays the judge.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: The greater?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Of the Keeches, you know. The greater Keech. So, anyway.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Or is he the lesser Keech?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But there's some crazy, really weird stuff in that film.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's no, what's the name of that movie?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: It's Keech.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's no Canadian bacon. Nothing but trouble.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Nothing but trouble. Dan Aykroyd's Nothing But Trouble.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: These all fall into that category of 80s what the fuck.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: There's just so much stuff that I watch now from
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that era that I watched a million times at the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: time and didn't notice anything.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And now I just watch them and go.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: this is so 80s. And like not even in cheesy
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: nostalgia 80s gimmicky things, just there's stuff that they do
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: in movies that wouldn't happen. Absolutely. Or even the fact
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that as you named that, I was like, wow, this
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: was a time when your starring roles would be John
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Candy and Eugene Levy. Would that happen now? Where's your
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Henry Cavill? Where's your Armie Hammer? Neither of them are
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: pretty boys. So it's like, even in a comedy, it
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: seems like, I think it's interesting. It would be hard
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: to do something like that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: It's sort of a, you know, it's, well, you're opening
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the time capsule to 1986. And you see all the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: cultural things relevant in 1986 or irrelevant in 1986. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: in this case, you know, you can be in a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: traffic jam on a bridge and you can get in
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a semi and convince the guy that you need.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: To plow over....
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Two dozen cars to get out of the traffic jam.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And then he stopped. And then get away with it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean. To meet the police. That is the 80s, right?
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I haven't watched this because I fell asleep. But then
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I would imagine at some point they like pass like
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: a buxom girl in a like, you know, it's a
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: car without the top. convertible at one point and then
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: like honk or wave i mean.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: That would i mean i would hope so i paid
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: good money for this ticket i want to see a buxom.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Girl how is that not in that movie at one
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: point john candy takes this huge gun and gives it
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: to the truck driver in full view of all like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the police At a huge crime scene and says, here,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you can have it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is one I can't remember if I brought
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: it up at the time. But I watched, because I
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: didn't remember watching it really. I remember being on cable
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: as a kid. Do you remember watching Cloak and Dagger? Yes.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I loved Cloak and Dagger. Have you watched it recently?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: No.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Is it bad? I mean, it's a weird scenario because
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it becomes that you forget, like, Dabney Coleman's essentially a...
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: fictional character potentially maybe sort of but also his dad
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: but the bulk of the movie is a whole bunch
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: of grown-ups trying to murder a child yeah they're all
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: spies and they're trying to kill a small child firing
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: guns at him right and left and i'm just like
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: i don't know that we would make this now like
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Certainly not as a fun comedy that you'd bring the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: whole family to. Right, yes.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: The modern child spy stuff is very... Cute.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Or even, yeah, if you get to even like the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: 90s version, you get the Frankie Muniz is a spy,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: but I bet they weren't firing guns at him right
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and left. Like it becomes more of a wacky thing
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and he gets one over on him because he's smarter
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: than the grown-ups.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: They're all essentially remakes of Home Alone.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was relatively serious at points. And every
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: few minutes somebody was firing a gun at this poor
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: small child. And I was just like, wow, this is, again,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: a time when you could do that sort of stuff.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: What was the name of that kid? Henry Thomas.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Henry Thomas, that's right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: He seems like a good guy. Even now when I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: see him, he's a legitimately good actor and is not
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: messed up. Being the biggest child actor of his era, basically.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: That was that time where if you had a movie
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: even right before E.T. or after and you needed a kid,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you were trying to get him. You may not have
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: because you couldn't afford him. Was he the.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Same kid that was in The Black Stallion?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Does anybody remember that? No, that's a different kid.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: They kind of look the same, don't they?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: He does look similar, though.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: He was the E.T.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Kid.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Thomas was in the... What was the movie where he... Oh, Daryl.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: That was him?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Well, there's the other kid, because there's two kids, right?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: There's the real kid, and then there's the fake Daryl
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: robot kid. Those are two different kids, right? Is he
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: still in it? I'm picturing the Daryl kid, which is
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: not Henry Thomas. But I think there's a human kid
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that's in there too that may or may not be
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Henry Thomas. Again, that's another one I remembered on cable.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I could not tell you if I ever sat down
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and watched Daryl. I just know of it more than
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: anything as an 80s dork that I was. Let's see.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: It's not just Daryl. It's D. Period. A.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Good luck typing that. Typing.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: It's Daryl.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I can't find it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, here it is.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Michael McKean, Mary Beth Hurt.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I think he's like the dad.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: I just didn't see it. Why should I act like I'm.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Shocked by anyone.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Who's in it? I don't think you have a Henry
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Thomas in that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Barrett Oliver. That's who I was thinking of. Not Henry Thomas.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I remember the little dark haired kid that is Daryl
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and he is not Henry Thomas. That's all I remember really.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a different time and you could
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: do a lot of weird stuff that would not end
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: up in movies now. I've got one that actually turned
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: into two that I watched recently, almost knowing that we
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: were going to sit down and talk.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Because, number one, I forgot these were a thing. Number two,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I forgot who made them. And then number three, I
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, you guys have to have an opinion
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: on this. I don't even know if you've seen the movies,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: but I think you'll have an opinion either way. I watched...
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: The original and then the follow-up National Treasure movie. Oh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: my gosh.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had not seen them because I saw the
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: trailer at the time and went, I've seen enough. This
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: looks like a big, dumb movie. And then as I
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: watched it, I was like, all right, this is what
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: you embrace about these movies. It is a big, dumb movie,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: but it is an entertaining big, dumb movie. So if
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: that's all you want is a big, dumb, entertaining movie...
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: They definitely follow through. It's a fun time if you
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: don't want to think too much about it because your
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: head will explode if you do.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: So I have such a hard time with those movies
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: because I cannot watch.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Cage?
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Nicolas Cage.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I figured that's one of the main reasons you would
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: have something to think. Even if you didn't watch them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: I can't.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: That's what's weird, because I'm so used to him as
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: weirdo Nicolas Cage.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: I love that. That's what I love.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: But there's times when he brings that to a movie
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: that doesn't need weirdo Nicolas Cage. There are times when
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing, man? This is not
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the right movie for this. This was a weird one-off
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: in the middle there, because he'd already gone down that
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: road by this time. But he had started out weird.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: He could balance them out, I guess, because this is.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: A pretty regular... nicholas cage guy like it's surprising to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: see him that reigned in there's like one moment when
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: he gets into crazy over the top nicholas cage in
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that first one and then there's a scene in the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: second one where he does a whole big crazy but
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: again it's an act he's putting on to get attention
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: and so he's doing a very over the top nicholas
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: cage crazy kind of performance but he's doing it as
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the character pretending to do this bullshit so with the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: exception of that he's a very Down to Earth reigned
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: in Nicolas Cage, which is a little unnerving to watch, really.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: So I like to, you know I like to swap
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: movie people.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, we've played this game.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: I'm going to play this game again.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: That's what I was afraid it would lead us to.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: I always, I'll just put this out there, I always
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: like the idea of he and Tom Hanks swapping for
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: like the Tom Hanks, you know, the.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Well, now he'd have to be in heavy, heavy makeup
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: because Tom Hanks only does things where he's in like
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: nine pounds of prosthetics.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Which Elvis was great, by the way. But, you know, like,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: what is the name of that movie?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. What is wrong?
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I sit down to do these things and it's like,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I have a stroke.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: What thing are you talking about? Tom Hanks has made
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a billion movies. Give me a thing. Forrest Gump.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Sleep is sincere.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: You all know what I'm talking about.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I don't have a clue. What is he doing in
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: this movie?
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: The Tom Brown movie.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Tom Brown.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Oh, the angels and demons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that's another one I didn't watch at the time.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: But if you watch that and then imagine like Nicolas Cage.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're both crazy.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: You definitely do it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: I've probably said that before. But that's like where my
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: brain goes.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It's not a stretch.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Those two should just swap. Absolutely.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: No, that's easy. That's easy.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: I think I'd like those movies better.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage in National Treasure and Tom Hanks in.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: See, you can't think of it either.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: The.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Movies about that thing that happened.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Angels and Demons.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: The one before that. The prequel to Angels and Demons.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: You know? Those Pride and Prejudice.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Two movies are both like 2 a.m. Waffle House.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like... I know it's bad for me
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: but it is 2am and that's what I thought going
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: into National Treasure and if I don't have it I'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: gonna have a hangover well I.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Was like I'm not gonna think this is amazing but
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I still as the geek that I am I'm like
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I haven't watched those yet so it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: like let's just go ahead and get them off the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: plate here get them knocked out and then I can
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: be like oh that thing I remember seeing that it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: ridiculous and I agree it is ridiculous but it's yeah
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It's an entertaining ridiculous? More than I expected, because it
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: was the first 10 minutes or so going in, I'm like,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm going to finish watching this. I don't
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: normally turn stuff off.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I can actually remember the last name of Tom Hanks' character,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: but I can't remember the name of the movie.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Langdon.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: It was Langdon. Why can I remember that, but not
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the name of the film?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Jeez, that's just stupid.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Just yell it out at home because you know it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: You know you know it.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: You're wasting your time not saying it out loud so
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: we'll hear you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, I should open the door and probably we
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: can hear everyone say it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: So if you were going to have like, do you
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: think Vim Vendors should remake that or the other one?
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Who would you rather see remake National Treasure?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Okay. Werner Herzog, Urban Vendors.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, Werner Herzog just... Can we put Werner Herzog
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: in it? Because we make him like a villain. He
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: is amazing at being anything, really.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Maybe he's just telling you what goes on. I think
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: that's a great idea.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: If you can put that together, you let me know.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Except we make a German version of National Treasure.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: No, it's... Carter Herzog in National Treasure remade it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: By the way, this just in, the Da Vinci Code.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Ah, thank you. How can we forget that?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't watch it. What do you
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: want from me? I think I was mostly put off
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: by Tom Hanks' haircut in those movies.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: It's weird.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It's bad. It's just really bad. It's almost.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's intended to.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: It's too long, but yet not long enough to really
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: be long.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: It's mullet-y, but.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Not full on.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: It is the hair length associated with a professor who
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: has just enough style, but not enough money to afford
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: a good haircut.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: But he got to the point of tenure, so he
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: really doesn't worry about anything anymore. Right, exactly.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Have to be presentable anymore.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Midlife crisis tenure professor. That's what that look.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Is.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: I've seen that. From the 90s, right? Because it was
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: the 90s that that book came out. Late 90s?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Da Vinci?
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Da Vinci Code?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't read.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: It's this thing that you do where you sound out letters.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a lot of trouble. No, thank you. But... Yeah,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I was trying to think what else. I mean, I
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: didn't know what else to do with those. I was
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: just like, they're just so crazy over the top with
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: their concept that I'm like, if you think about it
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: too much, your head will explode.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Like, it's kind of fun.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I'll give you that. I mean, I think it banks
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: on how ridiculous it is because everything is, it's not
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: like a one time thing. Every national monument has to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: get involved.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: It's totally over the top.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: And there's like classic lines like, we're going to steal
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: the Constitution of the United States of America.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: It's a great example. Like it's just. It's a great
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: example of very good, cheap storytelling.
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, there's an art to that, you know,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: like to be able to tell a story in two
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: hours using as little information as possible, you know, in
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: terms of details. I mean, you know, it's like there
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: is an art to that.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: As if the first one isn't crazy enough. By the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: time I got to the second one, wherein he breaks
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: into the office of Queen Elizabeth, And the Oval Office
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: within the span of a few days, essentially. And gets
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: in both of them relatively easily, I might add. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: don't remember that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: He's just that smart. That's the Book of Shadows for you.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I think I might need to revisit that. You might
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: need to revisit that. Yeah, I think that's a revisit.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And see, that's the art. At some point in the
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: storytelling process, they convince you that he is the smartest
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: guy in the room. I mean, that is a classic...
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: You know, movie making, you know.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: He does, like, know things that other people don't. But
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: it's also interesting that how quickly stuff changes now. It's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: funny that we were throwing out a bunch of, like,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: we can rewatch 80s stuff and it's just weird because, oh, look,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: it's the 80s. But how quickly in the modern era
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: everything changes. Because since National Treasure and the second one
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: came out, all of the technology is dated. And that
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: is not that long ago. Those were this century. And
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I'm still watching it going, everybody has flip phones.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Still, that's 20 years.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I know. He puts his little sidekick dude goes into
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the bathroom and puts all his computer stuff up. And
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: he's got a flip phone, a BlackBerry... an iPod, and
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: like a Bluetooth earpiece. And I was just like, man,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: you are cutting edge in 2008 or whatever the hell
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: this was.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I like to imagine that if you're watching it and
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: trying to consider it modern, they go back to older
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: technology because it's harder to track. So they're using like
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: all this old technology because it's not modern.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Except it wasn't.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: It might as well be semaphore.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was watching something else, too.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Okay, so that brings me to the whole thing about
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: talking about Nicolas Cage and Francis Ford Coppola. All right.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And... Peggy Sue got married? No. I'm pretty sure that's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a movie. Wait a minute.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Like, that whole family. You know what I mean? Anyway,
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: what is it? Metropolis?
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Like, is one of his more recent ones? Because he's insane.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: It's not out yet.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, Lord.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: See, I've said this before, too.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Coppola, like, went in reverse. Like, the stuff he makes
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: now is like what a weird artsy college kid would
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: be making versus the masterpieces that he made when he
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: was an artsy college kid. Like, he works in reverse
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: as a career.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: He was trying to use, talking about new technology, volume, right?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: He was trying to employ that on the new film that.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: He's working on.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Well, he was also changing the.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the scenes essentially this was one or two ago he
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: was doing like a he was basically playing dj with
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: his movie he was this was a public well this
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: was one a couple but i mean listen to this
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: again tell me this is like not a weird dorky
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: college kid idea we're gonna shoot a whole bunch of
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: scenes some of them are gonna normally be like okay
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: i'm gonna pick the best ones piece them together that's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: my movie throw out this crap that didn't work I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: going to shoot a whole bunch of variations of these scenes.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Then I'm going to show up to the event when
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: the audience is in the room, read the room, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: then change the scenes as the movie continues to play out.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I'm putting in the next scene that's going to come
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a different variation from maybe the last time I played this.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: He was literally piecing in different scenes for every showing
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: depending on how he felt the room would take it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I'm going to use this longer cut.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use this one where they have this
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: alternate line. Like, again, like it's a weird, crazy idea.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Then I'm like, that's not something like an old master does.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Like this is something that some crazy stoned out college
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: kid is like, dude, I'm going to get all my
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: friends together and I'm going to change up the movie
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: depending on the.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Vibe in the room.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: My own movie.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: That's, that is. And I'm like, I'm not saying, again,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: it's super artsy. Like I give him credit. Like it
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: is a, concept that is really interesting. Is it going
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: to work? I don't know. I wasn't in the room.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: But it's not what you would expect from like an
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: old time... What people consider to be one of the greats.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: That's a weird movie.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: And yet those are really the only directors that could
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: get away with it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Well, again, it depends on what at that level.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: If you have nothing to lose, it doesn't matter.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Or if you're going to a normal little showing of
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: a weird artsy college kid.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: If you're in a situation where you're drawing... You know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people at an opening.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that. You have things. Yeah. Yeah.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, but yeah, I think it's just how many
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: people you think are going to show up. I guarantee
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: somebody's doing it is equally a weird thing at an
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: art installation somewhere tonight. One would hope. But there's 12
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: people in the room.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: He's not making these judgments or decisions in a vacuum.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: He's influenced. And he speaks to younger directors. And he
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: knows what's hip.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Does he? He's with it. I think he's just drunk
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: on his wine. Twixt?
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Was it Twixt?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I saw Twixt, I feel like. It is a weird movie.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the ones after that.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I don't really know.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Either way.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: It wasn't Tetro. What was after Tetro? Twixt.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Youth Without Youth was before that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I love those cameos. You know, they make a left
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and a right one.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: A left twist and a right twist. I got two rights.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: You are going to get sucked up by a giant tube. Oh,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I know what I was going to bring up.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: So somebody said something about.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Who knows what I said.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Well, it was about, you know, things holding up over time.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Because of the National Treasure conversation about technology.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Not everything can be a masterpiece like National Treasure.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Right, right.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So we started re-watching the original Night Court.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yes.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: We had talked about it besides the.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Fact that there's a new.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Because they're redoing it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I just watched the first. I got through most of
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: that first one, and then I was going to sleep.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: We haven't even seen the new one. We just started
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: watching the old one, and we're delighted to.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Discover that it just really lasts.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was relatively raunchy for its time. So
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like the creepy stuff that Dan does is
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: going to be equally, if not more so creepy now.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: So it's weird that he's the legacy character that still
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: continues on in this new version. And now, at least
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: from that first episode, he's very toned down. And I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: don't mean because of the times.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: he legitimately, because he is a good actor, he took
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: it seriously and was like, it's been 30 years, this
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: guy's been through a marriage, and he loses his wife.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: He's 70-something. Yeah, he's just in a different place.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know that that's going to continue on. Maybe
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: they're going to realize, oh, now we need his wacky
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: antics like he used to do.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Well, wait a minute.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Because he had a softer side.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: But as a character, yeah, he definitely grew in the
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: way that he re- approaches this character in the new way.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: And I think when I watched the very first few
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: episodes of the original Dan wasn't such a creep. He
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: was just kind of a classist snob. And then they
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: wrote him more into a lech.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: If we're crossing over into TV, that's back when they
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: used to let TV find it. You would get four
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: seasons in before you might hit your stride sometime.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Which is why they changed the defense attorney, the woman, repeatedly.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: And the court clerk.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Like in the first seven episodes, all of those people changed.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: The other bailiff kept dying. Yeah. They had a pretty
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: good excuse. Yeah. You cast really old ladies, they're going
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: to kick off.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Some of them.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: That's great. But it was interesting because I remember thinking
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: after watching it for years that Dan was a total lech.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: But then I realized- Before that, he was like the
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: snob kind of character. And then they turned him more
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: into this misogynistic.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Well, they found what was working. And they were just like,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: these cheap jokes are what people are responding to. But
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the cheap jokes were so dumb.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: I liked him better when he was just like.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And yet the latest episode where you meet his parents...
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Was his story, his backstory.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: His backstory? Yeah. Was actually.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: touching yeah very good and you're.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Like oh and that's what saved him because he would
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: be 75 a creepy latch yeah and then there would
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: be that one scene towards the end you'd be like
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: oh wait no there's a little heart to him he's
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: he's still kind of a good guy maybe.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: People aren't like i find it two-dimensional you know that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: They wrote him into the latch instead of like this
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: interesting like play of classism really is what it was
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: and that was that backstory of he was trying.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: To what could be more classist than a a lech
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: who is the assistant da here's the man who's at
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the top of the you know well the middle rung
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of the political letter working his way to the top
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: i don't.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: Know like that was interesting i like john larkin though
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: he's good yeah he's always.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Been good always been pretty classic.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Anyway, sorry to divert into TV. I just had to
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: say that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Because it was pretty cool.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: But it is looking at the way things have changed
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: in this last 30 to 40 years.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yeah, because they would have episodes where
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: it was like, they had these five beauty queens that
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: were so dumb and they were like, oh, how did
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: you know?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Except for the girl from Denmark.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: But what I was going to talk about when we
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: were talking about what movies have you watched lately, it's
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: amazing how many what we watch in our homes compared
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: to the going out for a movie. And then what
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: you're finding on like Amazon prime, like we were talking
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: about vengeance. We watched vengeance BJ Novak. And that takes
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: me to a whole other point of like, I don't
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: know if I hate BJ Novak because he writes himself
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: is so unlikable, but then I can sexually think of
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: BJ Novak is this really smart guy. Who's incredibly talented and,
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: And I don't know why I can't separate the two
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: or I feel like the two have to go together.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Like in the movie Vengeance, he writes himself as a
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: writer for the New Yorker.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Of course he does.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: But, you know, I think what's interesting about this film,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and you haven't seen it, right?
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. Okay. I had heard things about
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: it that I want to see if you address. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: if not, I will put them to you. So there are.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: He.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Clearly writes himself as a shallow East Coast.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Intelligentsia.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Intelligentsia douchebag.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Which he does a lot.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes. I mean, even in the... He's basically
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: reprising his character in The Office.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: If Ryan Howard had turned himself into something.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: As a grown-up, yeah. Yeah, which never would have happened.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Ryan Howard would never have grown up. But, yeah, so
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: it's that premise. But, you know, he, wait a minute,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I can't reveal too much.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: So, okay.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: So what are your questions about it?
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: So let me tell you what I think. Because of that,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: what he writes comes across as very intelligentsia, preachy, you know, this.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, go ahead.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: But then there's the switcheroo.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing I heard about it was that the,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: The response that I heard, they didn't love it because
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: they said he comes off as that, but also this
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: is him out of his element. He leaves and goes
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: to wherever, Texas or whatever.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Fish out of water story.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: And fish out of water it up. But at the
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: same time, the way that he writes the other characters
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: and the way his character treats the other characters and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the movie treats those characters is almost looking down on them.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: It's almost.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: still kind of having a snobby attitude about the way
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: that people from his non-intelligency world are. And it's supposed
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to be doing that on one level, but at the
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: same time, it's still kind of doing it in a
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: way that maybe he didn't intend to.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: No, I think when I, as I watched it, because
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: he was doing this as like his perspective podcast, I
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: feel like you were seeing his interpretation of those people.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: So it's like.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's through the lens of a snob.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: It's totally through his lens.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: And yet, as part of the story, his editor calls
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: him out on his bullshit and says, you're a snob.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: But a lot of the way that that stuff is presented,
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like it was like a... And he
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: even kind of addresses.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: It in it.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: I don't feel it's like he was writing those people
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: in a poor light.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: writing those people through that character's interpretation of what he
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: saw until he had his, like.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: It's a classic... It's worth seeing.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: If you haven't seen it, it's worth it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: It also adds an extra layer to it because he
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: is writing and directing this, if I remember right. So then,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: are you... Like, again, you're.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Adding a layer of, are you making these people that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: So that you can be above that as your character,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: but realize your character's wrong and see them for something better,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: but still not really because it's all filtered through you
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: as the writer up the line who's kind of casting
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: all of these is like a dumber version. See, I
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think it's layers.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think it, I mean, that is, I don't
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: know if it's an oversimplification or an overcomplication, of a
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: concept that has been with movies and storytelling forever. You're
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: seeing the world through the lens. It's like Frank Capra
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: doing It's a Wonderful Life. Well, if you watch that movie,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: you don't come out of it thinking... that all um
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: you know All poor people are innocent and all rich
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: people are douchebags. That's not the case.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know one that's a douchebag. Yeah, the
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: important one. And they should have SNL-ended that guy.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, man, I know.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: George!
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: We were just talking about that. As an Italian-American, I'm like,
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: I never knew that we were called garlic eaters. I
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: eat a lot of garlic.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: But you get my point. It's like you have to
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: tell that story through a single lens. Just so that
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you can tell the story. I mean, if you had
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: to say the story through every vantage, you know, every viewpoint,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: you're not telling a story. You're telling multiple stories.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: I think you lose the conciseness. You have to keep that, right?
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: But then he addresses that at one point and says,
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: this is what people from where I'm from think of you, right?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: And then it's, I mean, you have to. You have
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: to watch that. Then we have to talk about it.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: Because I was totally not into it. And I was like,
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: BJ Novak, I like you, but I hate you. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: I just, you're smart.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: You're brilliant. After all this, I just want to watch
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: It's a Wonderful Life.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: No, you just want to watch the Werner Herzog version.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, I would watch It's a Wonderful Life. That would
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: be great. I mean, can you get much, minus those
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: last few minutes, can you get much darker than It's
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: a Wonderful Life?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Because it is a grim, grubby, tricky business. I love it.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: And that's why I love it. I mean, I love
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: it because it does not, like, it just sets you
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: up and it gives you this hero that is so amazing.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: And just, you beat the hell out of him for this.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: And by the end, it really, minus those last few
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: minutes- you're just like, he's kind of right. Like we've
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: watched him not get to fulfill his dream over and
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: over and over. And like, it kind of takes a
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: toll on you.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Every single person can identify with George Bailey in that moment.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And that's why those last few minutes totally deliver the,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you know, the heart tugs, you know, because it's like, oh,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, how are we still.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: Talking about this movie like this? Because it's that good.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: It's that good.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: It really is that good.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: I love a lot of movies, probably more than I
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: love It's a Wonderful Life, but if I had to
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: pick one top movie. No, I mean, I have dumb
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: things that I like.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. There's stuff I watch a lot.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Sit me down and ask me what I thought an
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: incredible piece of American cinema is.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: It would be wonderful. I loved this movie so much
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: as a teenager and 20-something that my sister bought me
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the script. I have it downstairs, in fact.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Well that was one of those i wasn't prepared for
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: like i went in knowing oh it's one of those
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: christmas movies they play every year and i hadn't watched
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: it when i was really young and i watched it
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: right at that point when i was becoming a movie
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: geek and i was like all right well i should
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: watch this it's classic cinema i should you know again
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: take it off the list just like one more thing
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: i need to watch and it like hit me like
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: i was like good god this is not only a
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: good movie, but this story is the kind of thing
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: you don't normally see because it's brutally honest. You see
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: him being driven crazy by this family that he didn't
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: necessarily want, really.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: This is a great... It's rough. This is a great
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: general topic of movies that sort of blew you away
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: and reshaped your childhood because... I never.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Saw that as a child. I only saw It's a
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: Wonderful Life after we got married.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Because I made her watch it. I was at least
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: younger than that.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: I just thought it was a Christmas movie.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't that young, but I was.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: It's only a Christmas movie after the first hour of
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: this cast.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, they would always show it at Christmas. And
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: I think my grandmother loved it, and I'm surprised that
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: she never made me sit down and watch it, because she...
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: put every book in front of me and you know,
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: but I think she really liked it, but never, maybe
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: it was that special to her. Maybe she was like,
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: I can't deal with a kid watching this.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: She won't get it. It's just weird because it's like
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: grouped in with a lot of other stuff at the
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: time or that also stars Yumi Stewart and he's great
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: in a lot of stuff, but it's rare that is
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: that hardcore. Maybe it's the combo of him and Frank Capra,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: but there's plenty of other stuff at the time that
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I watch him in and I'm like, Oh, he's really
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: good in this. But it's not that type of movie.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't hit you the way that that does.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: So that, I don't know. There's something special about that
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: story and the way that he addresses that.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: God damn, Uncle Billy.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Harsh story that I'm just like, God, it's just, it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: a rough watch.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: And I love it, but it's a rough watch. It's
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a rough life.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: It is. That's the title.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Wonderful.
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: Wonderful.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: When's that kick in? I haven't gotten to my last
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: five minutes of the movie yet.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: But so that, you know, I say I didn't see
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: it as a kid, but I did see the Saturday
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Night Live sketch and I was like, I knew the gist,
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: but I didn't know, you know, but I was.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Like, that was great.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: It's classic cinema in like all, I mean, it checks
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: all the boxes for me.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, it's like, it is my Citizen Kane.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I love Citizen Kane. I do, too. But I like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: It's a Wonderful Life better.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Almost, yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: It doesn't take itself as seriously as Citizen Kane. It's
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: a very grounded movie compared to the giant spectacle that
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Citizen Kane is. I don't know if there's.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: Really any sweet moments in Citizen Kane.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's such a bastard. Even in the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: early times, he's already kind of a jerk. It's a tragedy. Right, right, right.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: But I mean, you're always like, oh, George Bailey. But
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: you're always, yeah, you're always siding.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: With him and the couple. And like, you want them
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: to succeed. Where Kane's just always kind of a power-driven jerk.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And like, even as much as you wish things would
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: turn out better for him, or you wish he'd come
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: to terms with, hey, you're the one making your life suck,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: he's not going to learn that. He's going to be
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: on his deathbed before he figures that out. There's no
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Zuzu's petals, you know?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, Rosebud. Rosebud. But it comes at a very
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: late moment. Rosebud is not Zuzu's petals. Absolutely. Well, here's
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: the problem. He doesn't get his Clarence. Yeah. If Clarence
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: showed up mid two-thirds of the way into Citizen Kane
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: and went, hey, maybe you need to straighten up your
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: bullshit life. And like we saw him kind of do
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: more of like a Christmas Carol and be like, well,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: here's what could be and here's what you've done.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: And that's why it's a tragedy because he never, he
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't get to redeem himself. He never has salvation. There's
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: no turnaround. It is just, he.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Doesn't become aware in time to do anything.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, and that is for the time that
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: it was made, that was probably pretty revolutionary in terms
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: of storytelling is like, this is, we're going back old
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: school Shakespeare tragedy stuff here.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was really good.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: And, you know, that's... When everything else was, hey, we
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: just survived a world war.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's not make a sad story. Or, I mean,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Hollywood used to tell a lot of dark stories back
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: in the day. But it was more film noir stuff.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: It was like crime dramas and like it wasn't super cerebral. Yeah,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a psychological. You watched this guy screw himself
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: over and like go down the wrong path for this woman.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: And then everybody loses in the end. But that's also
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: that specific type of story where this was a much
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: more fleshed out character piece and watching his entire life
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: and learning about him and learning how he made all
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: these terrible decisions and yet got rich and successful. But
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: obviously that didn't fix things. So yeah, it's a different
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: approach than the dark that they were doing at that time.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Speaking of, I kind of feel like the movie There
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Will Be Blood is a remake of Citizen Kane in
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: a very Yeah, I mean, it's not the same. Much
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: more visceral kind of way.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, wait, I thought, speaking of visceral, we did watch
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: one other film.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah, we did. Go ahead.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Do I want to know? I don't know which one
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: Because I thought it was the other one. Oh, no.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: It was the 21st century reboot of Rambo.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: From like, what, 2005?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: So 15, something like that. Not really reboot. It was
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the one where he's overseas, right? He's running a boat.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Not the one where he's back here.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: But the title is just Rambo. It's not Rambo colon
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: First Blood. Yeah, it's none of that. But it's basically, what,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: the fourth in the series.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Which, as I remember, because we were doing the show.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: That's how long we've been doing it. I remember watching
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: it and talking about it at the time. I was
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: sort of blown away by how not just the realisticness
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: of the gore, which is god awful.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: Like two hours of people getting their arms blown.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: No, not two hours.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Sorry, an hour. Hour and a half. But at least
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: it was like taking kind of a serious take on it.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Whereas like two is like just a big dumb action movie,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: you know? And it was meant to, it was coming
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: out of the Top Gun era. So it was like,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: yay America, let's go kill some people and blow shit up.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: And like, That's all it wanted to be. 3 is
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: even more troubling, especially now. Talk about going back and
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: looking at stuff. Let's not touch 3.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: I've only seen the first one, and then I like
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: to imagine the first one combined with Predator.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Because the first one isn't a big dumb action movie.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: The first one is a character story.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: It all started as.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Stallone's personal project.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: That's why that first one is so.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: And it's a good picture of that post-war thing. These
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: guys not knowing what to do with themselves.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: And I feel like that fourth one, or whatever you
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: want to call it, Rambo... It kept in.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: That same vein, but then it was like.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: He went back to that character.
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: But.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: it became.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: So well over the top book see i don't know
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: how over the top i think it's just one of
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: those that like we usually don't want to see how
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: horrifying these deaths really are i think some of those
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: are like no this is probably what it would be
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: like we were standing next to someone who got hit
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: with one of those you're absolutely right they would be
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: liquefied onto you and.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: It would be disgusting there's a scene where the uh
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you know the military is coming in and like basically
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: shelling the village.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: And you're, and you're seeing people, regular old people explode.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Like, Very, you know.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's... Very graphically. The same reason that opening
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: of Saving Private Ryan works. It's like, this is the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: story you don't want to know about. But this is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: what these guys went through.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: That scene, for this movie in particular, I thought, okay, that's...
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I can buy that. I believe it. But then there
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: was this scene at the end where he's mowing people
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: down with this. 50 cal machine gun.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: On the back of a Jeep. It's a little throwback
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: to part two. And people are just getting ripped in half.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is just for the sake of yore.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: That's a little shout out to the part two fans.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: When they get to the scene with the actual arch
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: bad guy, doesn't he get stabbed? And you're like, oh,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: he died a quiet stabbing death. And then suddenly... he
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: also gets shot at. Oh, that's right, that's right.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: He rips him in two with this knife that would
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: make Paul Hogan ashamed.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: It's like, there's a queen! It goes into the sink. Anyway.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And his guts spill out and he rolls down the hill.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: And even that, I would give the pass to. But
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: the whole.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Machine gun the.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: Whole battle scene just weird things like that guy just
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: got his head blown off literally like it becomes so
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: clinical it's like watching a really like saw you know
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: we're so clinical where you're like this is horrifically gory
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: but it's so clinical in a way that it's like
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: The only.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Thing I can think of now when I think back,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: and again, this is a weird side effect of having
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: done this dumb show forever, but I remember us talking
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: about that fourth movie and being like, oh, that was
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: cool and kind of trying to do a real thing
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: in the middle of it. Plenty of gratuitous other bullshit
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: along the way, but whatever. It was trying to still
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: be kind of grounded about where this character ended up
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: and how miserable his whole life has been. But then
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: they were working on another one after that.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: When he goes to his farm at the end.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: No, not the one they made. They didn't make one
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: after that.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: I didn't see the one.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't see that. I know Paul did because
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: I think that's what we talked about on the phone
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: a million years ago. I think we had both just
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: watched that Rambo.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Last Blood.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: So we won't go to Last Blood. But the in-between
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: that never happened, if you haven't heard about it, I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: have to tell you. Because I remember on the show going, okay,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: they're making another Rambo. They were going to take our
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Rambo character post that fourth movie.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: And put him in space?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Kind of.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: He was going to fight a monster from outer space.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: It was basically Predator mixed with Rambo.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: No way.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: They were going to take, he was going to be.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: So Predator.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: The original Predator was nothing but an opening of Commando
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and then they work in sci-fi.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, see, I thought Commando was an opening for Predator.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Either way. Either way. Basically, he's going to be John
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Rambo off on his own being sad and by himself
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: and the government comes in and is like, hey we
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: need your help you're rambo we need you to take
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: care of this problem only this time the problem is
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: some creature from space has showed up and he has
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: to go track it down and kill it predator style
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: wow really can you imagine that following that fourth movie
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: because the one we get is ridiculous in its own
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: weird way but that one's like not surprising like that's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: The kind of dumb follow-up action movie. I'm like, all right, well,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Also, I'd like to point out, you know, who has
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: that amount and, you know, predictably that amount of hair
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: dye in the middle of, you know, Myanmar? Like, he's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: got perfectly jet black hair and he's easily 60.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: If you know the right people, you can get whatever
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: Also, I'm like, what year is this happening? And Paul's like, well,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: you know. And he's like, I don't know. Does it matter?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: 2009 or something.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: But the acting was so horrible. Like, everybody in that's bad.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: Except the people that got blown up. And didn't have
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: to worry about it because they had some special effect.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: No, that was real. They were method.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: They're pretty good.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: The one who themselves up for that.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: The child that had to please the general sexually did
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: a great job.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: How did I miss that?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: I think I'm glad I haven't watched this in a
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: long time. Did that happen? They didn't show it. I
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: blocked this out. They didn't show it. But they allude
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: And he did a fantastic job of showing up on
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the porch.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: I just, yeah. It was bad. So we watched that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: and then. You know, we both get like crazy insomnia
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: sometimes and I'll stay up and like binge watch insane things.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: Then I have like these crazy nightmare movie dreams. I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: had one the other night and like, I don't know.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: It was weird. I couldn't sleep. There was a murder
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: and then my friend was there.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Did you murder someone?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: No, my friend was like, let's get out of here.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: It was weird. Speaking of murder.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Murder, have you watched the Glass Onion?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Knives Out.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, I brought it up recently only to talk about
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: more of the spectacle because that's the part that I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: was kind of more amazed by is how... much attention
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: it got in the real world but I brought that
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: up but we didn't really dig into the movie so
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: much so since you've seen it because nobody else had
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: seen it so if you want to throw out a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: spoiler alert we can talk about it like for reals.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: So this isn't a spoiler alert but we can spoiler
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: alert but honestly I think I kind of liked it
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: more than the first.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: One for different reasons maybe I feel like the mystery
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: of the first one is way more interesting and cool
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: and takes a lot of weird turns that even though
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: you should know what's going on by the beginning, you
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: don't by the time you get to the end. Whereas
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: they don't worry about any of that. It's not even
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: about a whodunit. It's just that guy seems like he
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: probably murdered somebody.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, look, that guy murdered somebody. It's a chaotic, you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: foghorn leghorn as Poirot.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: But that's why I loved it. I mean, he is
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: so entertaining.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: Ed Norton's great as that character. And Janelle Monae and
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: his accent are terrible as Southerners. Like, it's embarrassing. It
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: is like frog horn like horn. But then it just
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: kind of becomes this like, once again, it's like, I
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: don't have to think about this.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: It's just fun.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: And everybody's pretty solid.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: And there were some real lovely, playful moments.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's smart. That's good. Brian Johnson is really smart.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I think he's just approaching this one very different. That
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: is what I said last time. I think he's not
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: worried about the mystery part of this one like he
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: was the first time. It's just the fun part. Well,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: it's just the, these people are rich assholes.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: We're going to look at that aspect versus the whodunit
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: because- rich people can do whatever the hell they want.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: That's the takeaway. This guy wants to kill people. He
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: can do it because he's got enough money and influence
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: to do whatever the hell he wants. And like, so
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: the only way that doesn't work is if you get
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: a bunch of the same rich assholes together and then
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: it cancels all that out and somebody can, you know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: kill whoever. But I think that's more of the takeaway
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: on this one, where the first one, they're also rich assholes,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: but it's still mostly a whodunit. And you're still watching
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: them kind of screw each other over along the way.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: It was a moody whodunit.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Like classic. With some awesome sweaters.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: Everybody loves... But I thought it was fun because of that.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: Because it was just like a different take. And it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: was exactly what you're saying. It was just a bunch
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: of rich ass girls.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, you couldn't deliver the same thing.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: No. You would have to twist it. Which I'm glad
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: he did. Because I feel like it would be really
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: tempting to just be like, okay, give us more of that.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Because people like.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: That first one.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Right. You're bringing that same guy back if he wasn't
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: a really talented writer, director. Like, I feel like you
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: would just be like, hey, let's do something like that again.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: But he went 180 degrees. That's a totally different approach
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: to the movie.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: It's very admirable.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he did it.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Much like the.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Murder on the Nihilorian Express, it's that same... It's kind of... old-timey,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: let's get all these celebrities together, let's do a whole
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: big whodunit, but he has a totally different vibe to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: his version. It's different than what the Kenneth Branagh version
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: is trying to do at old-timey, where this is like, no, no,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: we're going to be as modern as possible, which that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: may be my favorite moment in the whole movie, is
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: when they get to the island or wherever, and the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: extra little bonus appearance of Ethan Hawke, and... and hits
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: them over that and they're like you're good you're good
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: like no explanation just we're rich you're good you're good
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: so now it's like that is a genius way to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: deal with this modern story which is happening in the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: middle of COVID and you know what nah you're good
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, don't over explain it. I like it. I
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: love that just way of throwing that out there and
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: be like, all right, let's continue with our movie.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: There was no need to overcomplicate that at all.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: You know, so it's like, I know I always talk
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: about this being one of my favorite movies of all times.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Clue.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: Clue was so funny and so good because the cast
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: made it. You know, you knew it was going to
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: be whodunit.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Would you say it shaped your childhood in a way
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: forever that... You are now, you would never be the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: same person.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: Between that, The Simpsons, and like in my modern world,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: The Office, like there's a quote from those three that
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: reflects something in my life. I can always dig up.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: So clue. My question will be, did you see it
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: in the theater?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: And then what ending did you get?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh, I don't remember.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Because that's the weird thing. People now don't realize when
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: they played it in the theater back in 1985 a
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: bajillion years ago, they shot three entirely different endings and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: you got one. Not Francis Ford Coppola style. This is perfect.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: It was preset already. You only got one. It's perfect.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: He should have brought Coppola in and been like, okay,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: you check out the room and decide which ending you
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: think they need to see. Wait, everybody wait so we
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: can change reels. Hold on. Go get some more popcorn.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Hit the bathroom. We'll be back to finish up this movie. Actually,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: that's pretty brilliant.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: See, that's it though.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Brilliant.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: I think it didn't make that much of an impression
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: when I saw it in the theater because the ending
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: was the ending. But then once it hit cable, then
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: you saw it and you were like.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: They give you all of the endings once it hits
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: video and cable.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: And it became even funnier and stranger.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: So do you remember which one you got?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Sadly, I do.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Which one did you get?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's my brain.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: I'm sure we got the same one because there was
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: like one movie theater here.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Probably, yeah. I wonder how, like if they sent it
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: to different cities or if it was different individual theaters,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: different times. I wonder how the breakdown on that is
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: because I don't know of any movie that had ever
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: done that before.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: People from Louisville need the J. Edgar Hoover ending.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Let's all get together and see. Let's make a checklist.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Are you old? Did you see in the theater?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Are you old?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: And who was your murderer? I saw the final one
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: on the reel, which is the sort of everyone version.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: So that's what I got as the ending the first time,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: which really is kind of the ending by the way
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: they present it. It is the final one in the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: three for roundabout version that you get now.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a great question.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, I can't believe I don't remember.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I wonder how different it would feel if I got
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: just one of the other two people that murdered.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Because the other ones are just one person murder somebody.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I remember seeing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: it and I was like, oh, okay. But then it
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: was like really when it. came on cable that I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: sort of was like, what?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about that earlier because it's weird. I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: feel like that's one that didn't do well, period. I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: don't think it did well in theaters.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: No, but it became a thing.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think it even did that great video-wise. I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: think it slowly, like by the time people caught it
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: on cable, by the time kids after that, like that
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: next wave of kids, I think are the ones that
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: are more attached to it. I think it's like those
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Gen Y kids that are like the 90s kids.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: That grew up with it and saw it way more often. Well,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: wait a minute.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: So what year did that come out?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: 85, I'm thinking? No. Pretty sure.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was a solid cult classic. Hang on.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: It became a cult classic. 85. 85. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: I think it was those kids that caught it on
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: cable later. I think all the kids that saw it
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: in the theater were like, yeah, it's all right. And
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: they went on about their business. I think it was
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: only those kids that watched it on repeat on cable
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: a million times that made it the cult classic.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: So my friend, Kate, she was babysitting for somebody. We
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: didn't have cable. I don't know if she had cable.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: I got to go over and hang out while she
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: was babysitting and we watched it on cable. And she
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: and I were like, wait a minute.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: And then like we started, we got into like our
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: Tim Curry phase because we had like moved on to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: like listening to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. So that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: had kind of entered our lives. And then I had
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: to babysit somewhere and we watched Cable and Clue was
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: on again. And Kate and I started to like.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: We're going to warp these children's minds by making them
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: watch Clue over and over.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: We remembered a few lines and then we would start
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: to watch it anytime it was on and we were
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: hanging out. And so then we became people who knew
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: Clue backwards and forwards. And that house, I think that's
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: the whole thing.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: The house was cool.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: The house was cool.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: The whole mood.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: The individual things about it are almost cooler than the
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: finished product. Because when I go back and think about it,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like... I mean, it's an okay comedy.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, I still love it.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: There are moments that are genius in it. There are
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: performances that are great. But I'm like, it's almost the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: parts are greater than the sum of its movies.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think as you become older, too,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: then you're like, oh, my God, Madeline Kahn.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Madeline Kahn's always entertaining.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: There's so many. Leslie Ann Warren. And you just start
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: to go through the people that are in it.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: The one-liners.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: The many things that you love in the one-liners.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: The one-liners. I mean, there's just so many things. Every
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: single scene had a memorable moment where you're like, oh
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: my God, Tim Curry delivered every single scene.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: He's the MVP, really. I mean, I guess it does
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: center around him. But still, if you gave that to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: the wrong actor, he could not carry. Tim Curry is
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: just amazing. This is weird because this is what I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: was thinking of earlier today. And it stemmed, it led
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: me to Rocky, but it was because they were running
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: a bio thing on one of the bad cable channels
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: about Meatloaf. And it's funny because I remember going into
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Rocky Horror Picture Show and knowing who all those people were.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: So it was like, I came to it a little later,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: still pretty young for me that it became sort of formidable,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: but To the point that those famous people were already famous.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: So in my mind, it was like, look, they got
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: all these famous people together and they made this movie.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: It was watching that today. I started piecing the timeline together.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they just happened to get, especially once you
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: hit the American people, like all the core cast was
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: there from, from, you know, the run in London when
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: it was a play. But when they came to America,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: like Tim Curry was one of the British ones, but
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: he wasn't a star. At all, even in England, really.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: He was getting a weird cult following musically and whatever
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: else he was doing.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: So he was in like a version of Oliver?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: Like, from when we were kids?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: He's in a ton of stuff.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: Like, there's a ton of stuff that he was in.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: But it's, like, that thing, watching him, like, because I also, like,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: I knew who Meatloaf was when I saw that. Meatloaf, like,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: that out of hell hadn't happened yet. Right. When he
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: made Rocky Horror Picture Show. Like, I didn't realize that
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: at the time. I was just like, oh, look, they
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: got Meatloaf to be in this movie. I was like,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: they just happened to get Meatloaf right before he broke
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: as the biggest thing in the world. And then you
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: also got Susan Sarandon in this, who became... Barry Boswick,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: who was that weird... Barry Boswick, I feel like, became
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a star because, like, he spiraled off of, and now
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: he still kind of gets stuff because, look, it's Barry
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Boswick from Rocky Horror Picture Show. But Susan Sarandon, like,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: became a star.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she became a star.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: But, like, I remember being a kid, and.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: So, my mom was a single mom, so my mom had, like,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: interesting boyfriends, you know, like.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: That's a nice way of putting it.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: No, she didn't have many, and I didn't meet many.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: But the ones that I did meet made an impression,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: and the first one made the biggest impression on me.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: Took me to see Airplane. Took me to see Raiders
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: of the Lost Ark.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: These are formative films.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: Totally formative. Introduced me to Roxy Music, Devo. He got
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: me a tape, and it was a Devo tape. And
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: I was like, what is this? And he's like, it's Devo. Right?
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Like, he was this artist. This will change your life.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: He was, like, super, super funky, interesting.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: Like, somehow I think I saw a Rocky Horror Picture
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: Show with him. I think I got dragged there late
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: one night with him on a date.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any other option. It had to
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: be late one night.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: And then we had to watch a thing for school,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: and it was about George Washington. And it was, like,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: a three-night... I don't even know how... It was, like,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: a George Washington miniseries on, like, NBC. And I'm sitting
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: there watching it, and I'm like, I think that guy...
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: was in Rocky Horror Picture Show. And it was Barry Boswick.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: George Washington is meatloaf.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'm like, that guy was in Rocky
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: Horror Picture Show. Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, he had a pretty solid career, but I
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: still don't know if anything ever.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: No, he was no Susan Tarantino.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: I still can't see him and I'd be like, asshole. Asshole.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: That's the problem is his career. That followed him forever.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: She wasn't always a slut, but he will always be assholes. Oh,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: but yeah, that was just a weird thing that occurred
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: to me earlier today as I was going back to
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: the timeline. It was like the rest of them were
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: already kind of preformed. But those like Tim Curry, Susan
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Sarandon and Meatloaf all like that was pre who they became.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Like they all became huge cult. figures at that point
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: and like they just happened to get them all before
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: they were stars that's kind of weird but.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: Then didn't Tim Curry have like a weird he made
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: like I mean he had like Paradise Garage and like
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: all those dumb.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Songs I think he had a following that I thought It.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Was around that time. Well, there's also like the play.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: So a lot of them came into it as the play,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: but it was years later before they actually put the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: movie together. And then I think they were jumping on
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: that bandwagon, like, especially as it became the Weird Midnight Cult.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Then you work in the meatloaf thing. And by then
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: he's a superstar. So like, look, we've got the superstar
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: in our movie. We're going to play the video.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Definitely by the time we saw it, it became part
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: of the ritual. Meatloaf is a superstar!
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why the movie came to be. Because suddenly
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: people that were in it were suddenly famous.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: And they're like, oh. We have those people.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Let's put out this movie. Or was it still awesome
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: because you had all these great people in one room
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: and that's why that still holds up today.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: If you put a bunch of nobodies that didn't click right.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: If you put a bunch of Henry Cavill's and Armie
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: Hammer's and make them do that, I'd love to see
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: them in that.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if it would be the cult
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: classic that it is today. But they happen to have
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of really cool people.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: I feel like I saw that movie at two very
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: different times and that movie's history is In two very
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: different times in my life. Because one, I was probably
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: entirely too young. And the next time I was like
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: seventh or eighth grade, you know. And then it was
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: like a whole different.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: No, that's about the right. That's a little early for some,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: but I feel like a lot of kids came into
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: it at that age.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: Because it became a high school thing. You go hang
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: out at the right. But I had some older friends, right?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: But when I saw it, I was like. 5th grade,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: 6th grade.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: A little young. Yeah, but I mean, you don't know.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: But you're a weirdo, so it's fine. You attach yourself
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: to it because it's the kind of stuff you get into.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: I know, but you don't know that it's weird. You're like, oh,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: that's a sketchy tune. It's just a sweet transvestite.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Before I saw it, that man looks good in lipstick.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: He's wearing a corset.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: You know, you're a kid. It doesn't register as... Anything
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: that's off, you're like, all right.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it until later. Like, I was a teenager.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I remember it as a cult thing before
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: I knew why it was a cult. Like, I remember
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: a picture of it. This is weird flashbacks.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: Well, it was always the Vogue.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: But nationalized, the first thing I remember is there's a
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: picture of it in one of the star logs that
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: I probably still have in a box somewhere. But it
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: was running down, like, cult movies or something. Like, it's
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: giving you the reason that, like, this is why this
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: is weird. And I just remember that shot, and that's
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: the only thing I knew of it beforehand. And then
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: after that, I remember, this is what's funny, there was
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: a kid in... school that you had to get up
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: and give some sort of like presentation to the class
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: some sort of weird english class project where obviously the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: teacher had nothing else to do he was just like
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: i don't know go up there and give a presentation
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: and one of the guys got up the time warp
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: and no he gave a presentation on why rocky horror
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: was important and how it changed his life and like
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: he which now when i think back i'm like that's
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: so awesome but at the time i was like dork
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: because I really didn't even know about the movie but
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: that guy was a dork no offense I am one
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: I can call him out but like he was such
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: a dork that I was just like what the hell
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: is this movie that this guy likes so it was
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: a year or two later before I ever got to
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: see it and then I went oh no this is
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: fucking life changing like this is amazing so yeah when
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: I was in the theater and saw it it was
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: a whole different experience but watching this dork tell me
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: about how it changed his life I was like pfft Lame. Because,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: you know, you're a jerky high school kid. Of course
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: that's what you're going to say. But what's funny is
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: he must not have been that attached because it was
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: only a few years later when I became a semi-regular,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: in the crowd at least, and I never saw that
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: guy there. So he didn't stick with it.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: So you had to go to the Vogue.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was there for a while. Every week when
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: it played. Everybody was there. Like, I was that kind
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: of a dork. Yeah, I was there.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Well, and I knew.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: You were there?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: I was there in a couple of different waves. The
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: floors were still sticky.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: It was a Vogue.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: I was there when I first saw it.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know, because we might have been there at
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: the same time.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Probably were. I don't know.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: I was probably over it by the time you got there.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: We probably were there, because I also knew people in
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: the cast that second run. Like, the first wave was
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: when I first saw it and just got into it
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: because it was amazing. It was like, again, you've never
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: seen an interactive thing like that. Like, being a movie
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: geek is one thing, but it's usually you sitting by
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: yourself in your house at that time watching things on video. So...
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: That was the first thing I'd ever seen that was
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: that kind of immersive experience. So it was mind-blowing on
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: that level. But then like a year or so after,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: maybe a couple years after that, I then changed jobs
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: and then half of the people I knew that I
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: worked with were in the cast. So then I kept
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: going because I knew half the people on stage at
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: that point. So it was a weird mixture of both
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: of those things.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: Those were weird after parties.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: I wasn't cool so I didn't go to the after.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: I wasn't even cool enough to hang out in the
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: parking lot afterwards. Like I watched the movie and went home.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: That kind of cool. That's what happens.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: Parking lot was a very important scene.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: I wish I was cool enough to be there. I
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: have a hard time believing.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: I wasn't cool enough to be there.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I was just there. That you weren't cool enough to
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: be there. I think that perhaps you just didn't like parties.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: You're probably smart enough. Well, I didn't and kind of
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: don't even now. But I did not feel like I
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: belonged there, which is weird because it was one of
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: the few times when it was happening that that I
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: did kind of feel like I belonged somewhere. When it
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: was in the moment and shit was going on, like,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: it was that. But when it stopped and everybody went
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: to their cliques and hung out by their cars and, like,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't, like, suddenly it's just me, the dork, that
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: came there by himself. Like, everybody else was friends and
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: groups and cliques. I didn't have that. Even when I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: knew people in the cast, they then went and hung
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: out with the cast and I went home because it
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: was just me. I'm still like that, so, if you want.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Feel free.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I don't really remember much of that. I mean, I remember, yeah,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: after the show and everybody would be in the parking lot.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: It would be this real mix of, you know.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: It was clicky, though.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I see.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I was just some. poor schmuck from indiana so i
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: didn't know anybody so it didn't matter to me didn't
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: care about what cliques people were in i just was
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: there you know but uh yeah i don't recall that being.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: Anything yeah i just know it was the hangout but
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: i wasn't hanging out there i'm.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Like that's where the cool kids go Well, I'm going
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: home now. Yeah.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was a different version of it. I still
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: had a different experience than even the weirdos that found
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: their experience there. Yeah, I didn't have that either. But
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: I like the movie.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: It definitely, I mean, say what you want about the movie,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: whether you liked it or not, it still changed the
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: face of Western cinema.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: World.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Again, in ways I don't think people even realize. Like,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I think it hit, and it also had, like, a
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: weird crossover where I think because of the performance angle,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: it brought in all these weird, like, actor-y kids that, like, suddenly, yeah, like,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: suddenly it was a thing that you could cross over,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: and like, oh, this is what I'm doing, and that
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: makes me.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: It wasn't Hello Dolly or the Music Man.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: But it also, like, it had you involved in something. Oh,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: this is what I'm doing now. I'm in the cast
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: of Rocky, whereas... You couldn't just go get in the
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: cast of some play. But if you'll show up every week,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: you're in the cast for Rocky. If you'll start out
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: moving the tank back and forth, you're in the cast.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe somebody won't show up and you get to be
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Eddie next week. Good for you.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: Good for you.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, I think it gave you an insight, you know,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: a foot in the door of this thing in this
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: little world that, like, if you wanted to be involved
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: in it, it was possible. a pretty welcoming scene to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: let you do that stuff. So I think that changed people,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: I think, in that performance-y way, too, that, like, it
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: gave the theater kids a place to go, and it
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: gave the... It was also a weird mixture. Definitely that group,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: that crowd that used to go there. It was such
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: a weird mixture of subcultures at the time. It really was.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: But then it became like you get the popular kids
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: then would want to show up because they were like, oh,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: I heard there's this thing with a musical that's got
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: a transvestite, right? So it became like this edgy thing
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: to do. And then at that point, you were like, yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: I'm out because the popular kids are here.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: The one that would always confuse me, there was also–
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: I would always find a good pocket of, like, just
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: rednecks that would show up.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: There was.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: There was always just rednecks.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: And, like, I think it's just because they could yell
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: out obscenities.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: And, like, a lot of them were kind of homophobic,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: which at the time wasn't really a big deal. But, like,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: I think maybe it appealed to them for the wrong reasons.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: There was that group. To me, even worse, there was
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: the popular kids who were suddenly, like, you know treading
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: on sacred ground of kids that were like oh this
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: is weird i'm weird and then you know.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: You know there was the better option which is you
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: know that gay kids could go there and it was
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: open and welcome and like they didn't feel like a
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: freak all of a sudden so like i think that
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: was the good one but there was also over here
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: like a bunch of rednecks that just wanted to call people.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: And throw things.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: At people to that point I think that they were
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: probably in that group I mean They were probably also
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: gay rednecks.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: We're using it as an excuse.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: But even now they won't come to terms with that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: for a long time. Certainly not back in the 80s
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: and or before. There's a lot of.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Weird I mean, we are talking about Louisville, Kentucky in
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: the 80s and 90s. So, you know, there's definitely a
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: lot of repression.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: I definitely wasn't there in the 90s.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: I definitely wasn't there.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: In I was there in the 90s.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: See, I was.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: No, I wasn't there in the 90s. I definitely was. Well,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: it was the late 80s.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: I was there in the late 80s, yes.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: 88, probably.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it would probably be my last. 89 might have
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: been my last time there. And I'm not old.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: I arrived as they were.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: You just started way earlier.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: I started way earlier.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: See, I started a little later than most people.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: And I lived, like, right, I mean, very close. So
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: we'd just be like, oh, Caleb.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: So kids if you were interested in hearing three old
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: people talk about 1988 you hit the jackpot we'd know
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: the older.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: Kids brothers and sisters and they'd be like what are
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: you doing here.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: See I was older because I already had a job
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: so I would ride home past my job and flip
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: them off because I hated my job oh wait things
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: haven't changed at all I still hate going to work
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: I'd rather be at Rocky than going to work I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: still hate my job Well, that's your own fault. Your
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: boss is a jerk.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: She is. She should fire me. That was right. Yeah,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: that was right in the, you know, 15, 16, yeah,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: first job range.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: God, you're old. We are old.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: But it's interesting.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: Well, it really wasn't that long ago.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it was that long ago. No,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: but I want to know.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, so we were talking about this and looking on
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: at fun.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: And we had these great moments of going to these
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: independently owned, movie theaters that.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. That's a relic
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: of the past.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to bring it full circle so we don't
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: sound like old people.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: We are.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: So what do, you know, theater kids and....
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, now you just set up your own
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel and like you can do whatever the hell
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: you want. Like there legitimately is no boundaries now. Like
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: they can do and be whatever the hell they want.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: Which I love.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: It still sucks to be a child. It still sucks.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not pretending like it's a golden era for anybody
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: to be a kid.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: I'm just like, so we had that. There's not the
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: equivalent of that.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: And there won't be. That's long gone.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: We got like this weird, funny experience.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Rocky Horror?
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah or just having a place like having or even
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: just going to the theater like i know there's going
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: tons of people that just does not go people.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Collecting in one location yeah.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: I mean they are they people who still call themselves
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: movie fans and yet maybe once a year we'll go to.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: The movie brian i haven't been to a movie and
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: to a theater get up we were at like i
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: samurai cop.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: I know you live here get out i know No,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I still, it's easy to do because as
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: much as I love the theater experience as an experience,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: there's plenty of times now when I'm like, is it streaming?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Can I just watch it? It's just a lot more
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: convenient in a lot of ways. And that's part of
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: the problem. We've progressed. But it also is like, it
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: gives you the out that like, you're not sitting there
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: focused on the movie. You can pause it and go
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: to the bathroom. You can eat your dinner while you're
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: watching it. Like, there's a million distractions that you can do.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: But see, for me, that's perfect because I have a
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: really hard time, right? Like, I have a very hard time.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: The hell you say.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: Sitting and committing that much time and not talking and not,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: you know. Like, Paul and I watch a movie and
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like, wait a minute. Wait, go back.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: Wait, why?
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: What is going, what?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: So no one wants to watch movies with you is
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: what it says.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Poor Paul is what we're taking away from this.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: I can do it if I'm in a theater, but
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 5: it's like pulling teeth. Like, I really have to make myself.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Because.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: Because I will. Because, I mean, I'm severely ADHD.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Well, they don't know that.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: I have very, very bad ADHD. I really do. That
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: explains a lot.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: And it's not an excuse.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Late diagnosis, too.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, now I know it's wrong.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: You're a spectrum kid.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: We all know.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny. I see it all the time now.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: And I know tons of kids who legitimately are and
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: are diagnosed that way. But I'm like, I just didn't
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: get a time when I got to be there. There's
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: something not normal about me and the way my brain
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: processes things. But I don't even get a thing. I'm
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: just like, I miss my window. Oh, well.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: So getting diagnosed as ADHD and getting medication changed my
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: world for the past year and a half.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because there is a diagnosis. There's nothing on the
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: books for you and me, Brian.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: There's nothing that explains what you.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: And I have.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: We have a bad case of Airwolf.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: We just got to go back to the Rocky, I guess.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: You've been diagnosed with chips.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't a chips kid. Maybe BJ and the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Bear for me.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: You seem to have a slight infection.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Of Love Boat. I was watching that before I left.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: 1988... Sounds like a long time ago.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like a long time ago. And it
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: is also not a long time ago.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: On one hand. But at the same time, we were
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: just talking about a little while ago how much things
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: have changed since 2008. And it has. It has.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Technologically, it's a massively different.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, that also means we've changed
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: a lot as a society. Things have massively changed, even
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: just since the turn of the century. So like it
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: kind of it when when things didn't. I have to
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: put this in perspective sometimes. It's like back in the
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: Middle Ages when things changed at a snail's pace, like 20,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: 30 years wasn't a big deal. But now that rotation.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, you get to now and like. Every day,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: so much shit is changing.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 8: So much about our lives is changing. That makes the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 8: passage of time different. That is the hallmark of the
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 8: 20th century. All of the 20th century was like that. Well,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 8: in the 21st century, it has tripled the speed.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: The start of World War II, and we're using real
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: battle is taking place. And 30 years later, we're on
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: the freaking moon.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is a huge technological leap.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: Were we really on the moon?
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Thanks to Kubrick we were. Stop, stop, stop it. Quit it.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: Back to our conspiracy theories. Thank you, Nicolas Cage. Let's
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: not go there. That's a different episode.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: But this isn't national treasure.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: Wait, I mean, so I have a phone that is...
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: A pandemic era phone, right? I feel so behind.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Because you're old.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Grandma's always used those.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: I have not replaced my phone since the start of
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: the pandemic because I'm cheap.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's mine and I just can't afford to use it.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: I'm just going to use it until it falls apart,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: which it is. But because it's actually lasted, then it's like. Suddenly,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: it's completely outdated, and it's not even that old of
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: a phone comparatively.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: I can't even upload the new thing because it's so old.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm using a BlackBerry.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but three years have passed.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: When we met, we had T-Mobile phones, and to text
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: one another, we had to go, call me, C-1-2-3-1. Yes, exactly.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: You remembered how many times you had to hit the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: button to send the text message.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: And that was like not that long ago in terms
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: of like.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: But... Yes.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: But my point is.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: The point is that, you know, yes, technologically things change,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: but people really don't change all that much. I mean,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: there are.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: There is more that we have in common with 1988
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: than we have.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: Yes yes i think people's brains are the same dumb
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: thing they've always been but it also changes the way
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: it's interesting from the movie standpoint too because it does
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: change the way you make and view movies because that
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: didn't until the computer age none of that stuff changed
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: like you can watch if you're in 1988 you can
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: watch a movie from the 60s and you get it
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: it's the same stuff they might have a you know,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: a telephone and they make a call, they might have
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: a radio, they're watching TV, but nothing changed. You go
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: back a little further, they still got phones, they still
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: got the radio, like you can go all the way
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: back to the dawn of cinema and it's not that
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: different from your life. But you hit the 80s and
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: everything just, domino effect of changes that are like within
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: like i said a couple of years you're looking back
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: at this going oh why don't they just use their
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: phone and call the cops right now like it changed
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: things real world wise so that then you had to
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: readjust your movies or they don't make any sense anymore
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: so that's why yeah every horror movie now we have
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: to have some reason that your cell phone doesn't work
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: or they don't make any sense you're like why don't.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: You just call the cops serial.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: That's a fair point it does readjust everything even just
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: movie wise.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think that and I'm legitimately asking this because
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: I'm curious do you think that that's why there was
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: the sudden rash of remakes like we have to remake
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: this movie.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: Because none of it works now No, I think they
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: were just lazy. Yeah, okay.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 5: Like you're not going to remake The Wire because the
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: technology has changed.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: But they will. It has nothing to do with technology,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: but give it a couple years and they'll do a remake.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: They still make pagers. No reboot.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: There's no Wire reboot.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You say that.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: So that was going, okay, so where we went. This
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: entire tirade, right, started because we were talking about technology
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: changing in film and Francis Ford Coppola and that current
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: thing he's working on, not Metropolis.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. I love that movie. No, it's not Metropolis.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: It's something like that. So he had started using the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: volume filming screen, you know, but I think what I read,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: I could be wrong, I don't know the man, but
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: like that was not anything that he quite understood the.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: Are we talking about audio-wise or like aspect-wise? No, the
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: visual aspect.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: So the big screen LEDs. And so they're rebooting like
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: how they're doing their special effects. And that's going to
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: affect how the story changes and what's going to happen.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: But that technology has changed that quickly that you had
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: green screens and then you had some genius that said, well,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: just take these giant LEDs.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: Why don't we just go stand in front of a TV?
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just put a giant LED screen.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: George Lucas is a good example of this, right?
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: Well, that's it. That's his. That's ILM started that whole thing.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Well, but the Star Wars story, you know, is a
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: prime example of.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Well, the last 40 to 50 years is like starting
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: with practical effects and miniatures. Right, right.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: And he, you know, he.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: He lost his way.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: He had a good story.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: When the technology changed, he realized, oh, I can make
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: the movie that I wanted to make.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: Get too much freedom to.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's classic. I've said that about tons of directors.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: Right, right.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: But he's maybe the ultimate version. It's the classic story.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: When he was the scrappy kid that had no money,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: you look at that first movie and it's amazing because
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: he had to find a way. Necessity is the mother
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: of invention.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: You can see it's not perfect.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: You can see that's a rubber mask on that guy
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: in the bar. But who cares? It's freaking awesome. And
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: most of the other effects still look good.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: And even the cheap rubber mask stuff, they still had
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: a good enough cinematographer and lighting.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Let's make it dark in this bar. It's a bar.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: It makes sense. As opposed to the prequels where it's like,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: let's have everything really fucking bright for no good reason.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: But am I wrong? In that tech called volume, isn't
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: that the name of those giant screens? I feel like
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: an idiot because I thought that.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: That's what that is. I don't know I know of
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: those screens yeah again because.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: Of the Mandalorian and they had the only one yeah
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: the Mandalorian.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: The Mandalorian started with it and now.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: That started the whole yeah it changed.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: So much that yeah we were just talking about it
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: on an episode that like now it's affordable for small
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: studios to just go buy.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: One of those and do whatever they want well and
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: they're opening them in different like setting up different like
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: volume studios.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: Or whatever yeah it is a technological revolution for media
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: but I love whoever said anyone can do it why don't.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: You just put some big LED screens But no, green.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: I like green.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: I like so much better. Mandalorian, that's their whole thing.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: It just changed where you, again, you're busy with the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: green screen thinking about, in the future I'm going to
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: do this and we're going to put this in. As
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: opposed to, just go stand over there and act.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: You're already there. You're in front of it.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: The world's best like background in the car, like in
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: the old scenes when they're driving, you know, like it's
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: Finally, we can get more of that.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: And they're driving and they're just looking at their passenger
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: the whole time.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: They're having a conversation.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: Because everybody drives moving their arms.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you move your arms back. You guys can see
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: us at home moving our arms back and forth in
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: a real fashion.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 5: We go from the two to ten with one arm
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: instead of keeping it. Anyway, yeah, I mean, it's pretty, like,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: technology has changed and those movies have changed. And even
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: things like, oh, God, what was the movie we were
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: talking about?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: Which one?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: Nicolas Cage.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, National Treasure?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: National Treasure.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Like, you do that and it's actually totally different. It's
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: a dated reference now.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: Like, everything would look different. And it's dated.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Disney, wasn't it?
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: That's the part earlier when I said I forgot who
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: made it. I forgot it was, like, Disney released. Like,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: not like it's an up-to-the-line, touchstone, old days kind of thing. No,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: it's a Disney. It says, Disney National Treasure. I was like, well,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: that makes sense why it's on this streaming channel. I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: forgot all about that part.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: I went to look for a Simpsons episode.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: And it's on Disney. Don't question. Disney owns all.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 5: But wait a minute.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Disney bought Fox. Fox owns Simpsons.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: But did the Disney Simpsons ride.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: At....
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: Disneyland?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: It's not at Disney. It's at the other one.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Well, it won't be for long.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: Universal.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Universal will have to change things. They'll have to splash
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: mountain that bitch.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: It's a terrible ride.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: It'll be gone and you'll.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Not have speaking in. It's about a weed. The Gully Jimsons.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: An obscure artist in London who... It's a roller coaster ride.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: Breaks into an apartment and paints a wall. So, yeah,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: I was thinking we should go back to Disney World.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: You had never been.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: I know. I'd never been.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: Do you want to do the Star Wars thing?
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: There's so much that we need to see.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: I just did Harry Potter over at Universal.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: That's my thing. They don't own anything.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: We've already done it.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: A lot.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good one. It is good. But the last
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: time we went there, somebody got shot outside of our
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: hotel room.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: That was weird.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: And somebody got shot at the flea market I was
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: at a couple weeks ago.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: That happens all the time.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Standing there flipping through records and suddenly a wave of
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: idiots comes running towards us.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that was fun. Wow.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, you were at the... Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: I was there.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody shot somebody.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: Not the exposition center, but the.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: Not the one downtown, but the one at the fairgrounds.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: So, once again, the takeaway is people get shot all
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: the time. In America.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: So you better hurry up and watch the movie you
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: want to watch because you might be shot at any
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: given moment.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: On a green screen or not.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: Or watch an old movie. Like It's a Wonderful Life.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: And it will change your life and make you realize
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: how depressing everything is. And hopefully in the last five
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: minutes it all turns around and your life's great. But
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: most of the time, probably not. And then you get shot.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: You have to strategically time a hug at the end. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe your Zuzu will come along. If not, you'll just
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: die like Kane. Nobody will give a shit. There's your takeaway.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: Anything else to pass along?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: If I had a bell to ring, I'd ring it
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 2: No, no wings for you bastards. You get nothing and
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: like it. Rosebud. Otherwise, that about does it. We will
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: try next time. Probably we'll drop these two weirdos into
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: coming back. I'm so sorry. Coming up with whatever the
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: hell it is that we do when we get together.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: I like these episodes.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's called... permanent derail that's really i think.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: When you're just not on the rail you don't have
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: to worry about derailing when you're hanging out off on
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: the side with the rest of the train yard hobos
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: like that's just where you live if you're listening to
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: us you don't touch the third ring don't take this
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: for a different way i like the idea that.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: There was a plan and we you know subverted Sure.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: If I just started doing this, but I've been doing
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: this a long damn time, so there are times when
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: I know how to plan for the derailment. There are
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: other times you can't fully plan for it, but there
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: are times when you just know the derailment is coming,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: so you just go set up shop with the hobos
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: next to the rail area and just.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: You put a penny on it and see what happens.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You just put your weenie on a stick and
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: sit there and have a conversation around the fire while
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: the train derails over there and you don't have to
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: worry about it.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: I think you're derailing Brian's closing statements.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: Nope. Nope.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: I want people to come away with this thinking, oh boy,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: those two people are rebels.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: They're like this all the time. There's no rebelling. This
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: is the status quo.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: This is a regular old Tuesday for these two.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: That was fun.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: But I enjoy these Tuesdays. It's not really Tuesday, but
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I think we should
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: return to this and go off the rails somewhere else
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: down the line.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: But until then, otherwise that about does it.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: We will return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Every time a bell rings, a Brian gets a.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: Cup of coffee. Somebody explodes from a Rambo bullet.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you. I needed the wrap up there.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: That was perfect.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 1:49:29
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