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- 0:08Speaker 1: Anthony Thomas hasn't seen his daughter Elizabeth for a week
- 0:11Speaker 1: at Lee says she could be anywhere. Confesstigators say that
- 0:14Speaker 1: she is with Tad Cummins. Tb I said that Cummins
- 0:17Speaker 1: was a teacher. A student reported seeing Cummins kissing Elizabeth
- 0:20Speaker 1: in his classroom in late January. She's fifteen, he's fifty.
- 0:26Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. He stold my
- 0:30Speaker 1: daughter from me. We really need the public to realize
- 0:33Speaker 1: that this young girl is in danger. I had no
- 0:37Speaker 1: idea and my husband was involved with anything that has
- 0:40Speaker 1: led to Olivia. Investigators are now going on the theory
- 0:44Speaker 1: that Cummins has taken Elizabeth either to an area outside
- 0:48Speaker 1: the public or outside the Southeast. They're missing. They could
- 0:52Speaker 1: be anywhere. If you see that, don't approach them. Commins.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Maybe on the plot thickens. We are are learning more
- 1:00Speaker 1: and more about the pervy teacher Tad Cummins who kidnaps
- 1:05Speaker 1: his student, a gorgeous young girl, a young girl, Elizabeth Thomas.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Now we're learning so much more about his premeditation and
- 1:16Speaker 1: was there a cover up that allowed him to stay
- 1:20Speaker 1: in the classroom instead of getting booted from his job.
- 1:24Speaker 1: As he should have been back on January three, when
- 1:27Speaker 1: it was reported he was smooching the student in the classroom.
- 1:31Speaker 1: And as of right now, Elizabeth Thomas, the little girl,
- 1:35Speaker 1: is still missing and believed to be with her teacher,
- 1:39Speaker 1: Tad Cummings, who is armed with at least two handguns.
- 1:44Speaker 1: This is crime stories. I Nancy Grace, I want to
- 1:47Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. As the net is
- 1:50Speaker 1: cast further hours ticked by and no sign of Elizabeth Thomas,
- 1:55Speaker 1: many fear, including me, this could turn out to be
- 1:58Speaker 1: a Romeo Julie Yet scenario where both of them end
- 2:02Speaker 1: up dead in the end rather than being caught. Another
- 2:07Speaker 1: fact that has come out in the last hours is
- 2:09Speaker 1: that we learn, according to her own family, Elizabeth Thomas
- 2:14Speaker 1: told her siblings, if I'm not home by six o'clock tonight,
- 2:18Speaker 1: called police. That really casts a nefarious shadow on all
- 2:24Speaker 1: of this. It's been portrayed that she wanted to go willingly,
- 2:27Speaker 1: but to be telling her siblings if I'm not home
- 2:30Speaker 1: by six o'clock tonight, called police. That's a new wrinkle.
- 2:34Speaker 1: But first, I want to talk about hair dye. According
- 2:39Speaker 1: to some news outlets, and you can see it for
- 2:41Speaker 1: Pete's sake. What this guy has in his Walmart shopping
- 2:46Speaker 1: cart is Ladies hair dye Claire all nice and easy brunette.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And we know that Elizabeth is blonde. It's really hard
- 2:56Speaker 1: for me to believe what the t v I is
- 2:58Speaker 1: saying on this that it has nothing to do with
- 3:01Speaker 1: a kidnap. That's just really hard for me to believe. Alan.
- 3:05Speaker 1: In fact, I have a goatee and I die mine
- 3:08Speaker 1: with Claire. All do I need to know? That? Is
- 3:10Speaker 1: that something I need to know? I'm an old man
- 3:13Speaker 1: and I've got to keep my youthful beauty up. What
- 3:16Speaker 1: we do see at Walmart in this Yes, beauty has
- 3:19Speaker 1: a price, Okay, it does. Good looks don't come free, dear. Okay,
- 3:24Speaker 1: so tell me about you know those are. That's why
- 3:26Speaker 1: they call them beauty secrets. Allan beauty secrets. You're not
- 3:30Speaker 1: supposed to blab him on a podcast. Okay, So you
- 3:33Speaker 1: keep your nice and easy to yourself. Let's get back
- 3:35Speaker 1: to Tad Cummins. Okay, so he's buying, actually buying hair dye. Now.
- 3:39Speaker 1: The Tennessee Bureau Investor of Investigation has tweeted about this,
- 3:43Speaker 1: confirming that yes, he did purchase hair dyet Walmart just
- 3:46Speaker 1: before the kidnapping. But quote, we have determined the purchase
- 3:50Speaker 1: of hair dye by Tad Cummins was not part of
- 3:53Speaker 1: his intended plan for Elizabeth Thomas. Maybe he's not dying
- 3:57Speaker 1: his his goatee. If I were him, I would just
- 4:00Speaker 1: shave it. It's kind of scraggly anyway. Well, I was
- 4:03Speaker 1: thinking it was about her for her to die her here.
- 4:06Speaker 1: But you know what, I've already stated that I think
- 4:08Speaker 1: they've altered their looks. He may have shaved his beard.
- 4:12Speaker 1: She may have cut her here and died it red
- 4:14Speaker 1: for all I know, or used as clear all nice
- 4:17Speaker 1: and easy. You know, in criminal law, there is no coincidence.
- 4:20Speaker 1: And I find it very coincidental that he goes and
- 4:23Speaker 1: by his ladies here and die and then next thing
- 4:26Speaker 1: you know, he has kidnapped Elizabeth Thomas. Another thing that
- 4:31Speaker 1: has happened is that we believe there may have been
- 4:36Speaker 1: a cover up within the school system, because Alan has
- 4:41Speaker 1: uncovered that Tad cummins wife is an executive assistant with
- 4:47Speaker 1: the school board. And here you've got a teacher smooching
- 4:52Speaker 1: on a little girl in class, and they don't kick
- 4:55Speaker 1: his rear end out on the sidewalk for Pete's sake,
- 4:58Speaker 1: No they don't. Timeline is really suspicious and Elizabeth Thomas's
- 5:03Speaker 1: dad is very upset about it. But we find out
- 5:06Speaker 1: that Jill Cummins, according to her own Twitter account, is
- 5:10Speaker 1: Marie County School's administrative assistant to the Department of Instruction.
- 5:15Speaker 1: In other words, the person who supervised and would have
- 5:19Speaker 1: fired her husband and eventually did, but like six weeks later,
- 5:24Speaker 1: she is his assistant after he kidnapped the girl. It
- 5:27Speaker 1: was only a day after the kidnapping that this teacher
- 5:31Speaker 1: was even fired. Now, he had been suspended a month
- 5:33Speaker 1: earlier from the classroom, but he hadn't been fired. Wait
- 5:36Speaker 1: a minute, suspended from the classroom. I thought he was
- 5:39Speaker 1: still teaching, but she wasn't in his class anymore. He
- 5:42Speaker 1: was suspended. He was suspended on February the sixth, but
- 5:46Speaker 1: that was only after the lawyer for the dad, Anthony Thomas,
- 5:51Speaker 1: sent a scathing letter threatening a lawsuit against the school
- 5:55Speaker 1: system if they didn't get some action. And it was
- 5:59Speaker 1: only after that letter was sent to the school board
- 6:02Speaker 1: that he was actually suspended and taken out of the classroom.
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- 6:51Speaker 1: today and making this podcast possible. Have you seen the
- 6:56Speaker 1: picture that has emerged of her in an office with
- 7:02Speaker 1: this purv Well, at least he wasn't. She wasn't sitting
- 7:05Speaker 1: in his lap. I mean she was on the other
- 7:06Speaker 1: side of the desk. It doesn't look anything anything strange.
- 7:10Speaker 1: There's a student, they're sitting on the other side of
- 7:12Speaker 1: the desk talking to the teacher. What's unusual about that
- 7:16Speaker 1: other than the fact that he kidnapped her a couple
- 7:17Speaker 1: of days later and it's probably out in some cheap
- 7:19Speaker 1: motel having sex with her other than that. Nothing. But
- 7:23Speaker 1: you know, back to the cover up, the alleged cover up.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Here you've got Tad Cummin's wife working as the executive
- 7:31Speaker 1: assistant to a member of the school board. The head
- 7:34Speaker 1: of the school board, I think, Department of Instruction, Thank you,
- 7:38Speaker 1: Department of Instruction, the number two person in the school system.
- 7:41Speaker 1: What another co inkie dink that he doesn't get suspended
- 7:45Speaker 1: or fired the minute it comes out that there's a
- 7:48Speaker 1: witness placing them smooching in the in the classroom. And
- 7:51Speaker 1: it doesn't end there because according to the father and
- 7:55Speaker 1: his lawyer, there's the smooching incident that is witnessed and
- 7:58Speaker 1: reported immediately by the student. They deny it. The teacher,
- 8:04Speaker 1: Tad comings in the student, Elizabeth Thomas, deny it. I
- 8:07Speaker 1: think they take the girl out of his classroom. But
- 8:10Speaker 1: then when the father finds out about it, when cops
- 8:13Speaker 1: show up to investigate and ask him about it, you know,
- 8:16Speaker 1: weeks later, he looks at her cell phone and the
- 8:19Speaker 1: teacher is still communicating with her, and he is still
- 8:23Speaker 1: teaching at that time, and the dad goes ballistic because
- 8:27Speaker 1: this teacher is not doing what he's supposed to be doing.
- 8:30Speaker 1: He's still texting her and emailing her in a seductive manner,
- 8:35Speaker 1: and that is not okay. But his wife is wormed
- 8:40Speaker 1: in in the school board. Now do we know there
- 8:43Speaker 1: was a cover up? No, we don't, but it's highly coincidentally,
- 8:47Speaker 1: the father said, what does the father say? Just today,
- 8:50Speaker 1: the father is speaking out. He has released a series
- 8:55Speaker 1: of nine tweets that he has posted today, really complaining
- 9:01Speaker 1: about this because yesterday what happened was well saying what
- 9:04Speaker 1: what does he say? He's complaining that the Maury County
- 9:06Speaker 1: School System is lying about the timeline. He says that
- 9:11Speaker 1: they released a story saying that they sent him files
- 9:13Speaker 1: and they're finding per his request by his attorney, he
- 9:16Speaker 1: says that's not true. They sent me zero. The school
- 9:19Speaker 1: says they sent me information. To be clear, I've never
- 9:22Speaker 1: received anything from Elizabeth School regarding this incident. To date,
- 9:26Speaker 1: no employee from Elizabeth School has communicated with me in
- 9:30Speaker 1: any way. The school's not even communicated with me to
- 9:33Speaker 1: let me know there was an allegation of inappropriate contact
- 9:36Speaker 1: between her and a teacher. Once I hired the attorney,
- 9:40Speaker 1: the Mari County School Central Office has sent my attorney
- 9:44Speaker 1: what appears to be the person personnel file for Tad
- 9:47Speaker 1: Cummins the school Central. Wait wait, wait, wait, I gotta
- 9:51Speaker 1: cut through all the legal jargon here. You're not even
- 9:53Speaker 1: a lawyer for Pete' psych and you sound like when
- 9:56Speaker 1: it's scary. I'm reading his tweets. These are his tweets,
- 9:59Speaker 1: all right now that he says, well, I gotta get
- 10:01Speaker 1: to something more important than the tweets. Okay, listen, listen,
- 10:04Speaker 1: what what? What? Hold it? But you're making me hit
- 10:06Speaker 1: the hard stuff. I am currently having an Irish breakfast
- 10:10Speaker 1: tea double bag. Okay, alright, double bag. That's a lot
- 10:15Speaker 1: for me. Now hold on, there's something more. Allegedly, in
- 10:19Speaker 1: the days before this little girl was kidnapped, Commins searched
- 10:24Speaker 1: online to see if police could track his car, his
- 10:31Speaker 1: Niecean Rogue. I think it was a two thousand and fifteen,
- 10:35Speaker 1: So the t b I says they've discovered, of course,
- 10:39Speaker 1: his troubling pattern of behavior. Prior to his disappearance. He
- 10:44Speaker 1: searched online to find out if police could track his
- 10:49Speaker 1: Niecean Rogue, and he also searched the topic of teen marriage.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Oh okay, let's talk about how you track a Nissan
- 10:59Speaker 1: Rowe or any late model car. Go ahead, hit me.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Modern cars and this is are equipped with all kinds
- 11:07Speaker 1: of computer devices that communicate back to the car companies
- 11:10Speaker 1: that have all kinds of data that is stored in
- 11:13Speaker 1: computer servers that the car company's own. It's part of
- 11:16Speaker 1: the maintenance program in everything. These are smart cars. Just
- 11:20Speaker 1: like your phone can be tracked, many of the modern
- 11:23Speaker 1: cars can be tracked. And in fact, the tv I
- 11:26Speaker 1: was asked the other day, are you tracking his phone
- 11:28Speaker 1: or his car? And they said, we're not going to
- 11:31Speaker 1: tell you, but we're doing everything that is possible. So
- 11:34Speaker 1: if you're driving a car, it's very possible that some
- 11:38Speaker 1: computers someplace is pinging your car and knows where you are. Now,
- 11:42Speaker 1: here's the deal on the team marriage. In the US,
- 11:46Speaker 1: all but one state requires a couple b eighteen in
- 11:50Speaker 1: order to marry without parental permission. Nebraska sets the age
- 11:55Speaker 1: at nineteen. Now here's the catch. Some states will waive
- 12:00Speaker 1: the requirement if there is a pregnancy, And if there
- 12:04Speaker 1: is a pregnancy, the couple might still have to go
- 12:08Speaker 1: to have court approval. But everybody, unless you're living in
- 12:12Speaker 1: a cave under a rock, knows that Tad Cummins has
- 12:15Speaker 1: made off with this little girl. So if he tries
- 12:18Speaker 1: to get court approval, that ain't happening. All right, that's
- 12:21Speaker 1: a technical legal term, alan, so you can add that
- 12:24Speaker 1: to your legal repertoire. But Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland,
- 12:29Speaker 1: Oklahoma allow pregnant teens or teens who've already had a
- 12:34Speaker 1: child to get married without per mental consent. In Florida, Kentucky,
- 12:39Speaker 1: and Oklahoma, they have to have authorization from a court.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Maryland requires the minor b at least sixteen. Now catch
- 12:48Speaker 1: this repeat. Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, and Oklahoma allow
- 12:56Speaker 1: pregnant teens or teens who have already had a child
- 13:00Speaker 1: to get married without parental consent. So if they go
- 13:07Speaker 1: to get married and say that she's pregnant or if
- 13:10Speaker 1: she is pregnant, they can get married. What about that, Well,
- 13:13Speaker 1: there is the complication that he's already married. But who
- 13:16Speaker 1: forgot about that? They would That wouldn't really stop them,
- 13:19Speaker 1: That wouldn't stop him. They could still get a marriage
- 13:21Speaker 1: license because another state of a public court judge or whoever,
- 13:25Speaker 1: would not know. Yeah, there's that little complication of the
- 13:29Speaker 1: wife who just made a public appeal for them to
- 13:32Speaker 1: come home. You know, I noticed that one of her
- 13:34Speaker 1: friends also has been begging for her to come come
- 13:39Speaker 1: back to get away. And this friend, Thomas's best friend,
- 13:44Speaker 1: Ashley Riggins, pleads publicly for Elizabeth to get quote get
- 13:50Speaker 1: away from Cummings if possible. Quote. I know you may
- 13:54Speaker 1: love him and think he's perfect, but he's not. I
- 13:58Speaker 1: love you, and there's so many people here who need
- 14:01Speaker 1: you and want you back. I mean, you know, she's
- 14:04Speaker 1: just a little girl. She is just a little girl.
- 14:08Speaker 1: I want to go back to tracking the Nissan that's
- 14:11Speaker 1: in practically every newer car, and his is a two
- 14:14Speaker 1: thousand fifteen. Right, Yes, these are smart cars. They've got computers.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Many many cars now have GPS of course built into them,
- 14:23Speaker 1: and they also have WiFi and all of that, and
- 14:26Speaker 1: they're connected. Cummins claims that he is a black belt
- 14:30Speaker 1: in karate. Investigators say he's armed with at least two handguns.
- 14:35Speaker 1: The TB I now admitting that despite more than six
- 14:39Speaker 1: hundred leads, they have no idea where these two are.
- 14:44Speaker 1: So let's talk about what we think. Let's project. Let's
- 14:48Speaker 1: hypothesize going sixty miles an hour and stopping overnight. I
- 14:53Speaker 1: bet they're I bet they're driving at night and sleeping
- 14:56Speaker 1: during the day. I bet you anything to go under
- 14:59Speaker 1: the radar. Well, by now, they could be anywhere they
- 15:03Speaker 1: could be and and living off cash. But what's your
- 15:06Speaker 1: best bit. I'm thinking he went far far away, you know.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Early I was thinking maybe the Gulf coast of Florida,
- 15:13Speaker 1: that kind of thing, because of spring break. But this man, apparently,
- 15:17Speaker 1: from what we're now seeing, had a long term plan.
- 15:19Speaker 1: I mean he was talking, he was planning marriage, and
- 15:22Speaker 1: he was gathering up cash. I'm thinking a long, long
- 15:25Speaker 1: way three days. He could be in the mountains of
- 15:30Speaker 1: northwest Washington state or something like. You know what I'm
- 15:32Speaker 1: thinking he might do. I'm thinking he may go out
- 15:35Speaker 1: to the Utah area, where an older man married or
- 15:40Speaker 1: seemingly married to a young girl would not be questioned. Well,
- 15:44Speaker 1: there are a lot of places to hide in this big,
- 15:46Speaker 1: beautiful country. There really are. But I think at this
- 15:51Speaker 1: juncture they would have to basically assume new identities, don't
- 15:56Speaker 1: you think, Oh, absolutely absolutely, and new looks new identities
- 16:01Speaker 1: and she has to go along with it. But we
- 16:03Speaker 1: all know from many cases that you have closely covered,
- 16:08Speaker 1: and so have I that these young ladies can disappear
- 16:11Speaker 1: with these men for many years. For anyone that has
- 16:14Speaker 1: information on the whereabouts of Elizabeth Thomas, please call the
- 16:18Speaker 1: t b I immediately at eight hundred eight two four
- 16:22Speaker 1: three four six three repeat eight hundred eight two four
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- 16:43Speaker 1: actually pull up behind this Nissan Rogue nine seven six
- 16:47Speaker 1: z p t don't call that t b I number,
- 16:51Speaker 1: call nine one one because it's it's got to be fast.
- 16:54Speaker 1: And if you pull up, don't try to pull him over.
- 16:56Speaker 1: You don't say anything to them because he's got a
- 16:58Speaker 1: couple of guns, and now we're finding out he's got
- 17:00Speaker 1: a black belt in karate, So call or so he
- 17:04Speaker 1: said holding even Barney Barney five had it? What was
- 17:08Speaker 1: he a green bill? Oh no, that was judo, So okay?
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- 18:44Speaker 1: we are watching it and investigating it ourselves. Prayers out
- 18:48Speaker 1: for Elizabeth now and for her family and her safe return.
- 18:53Speaker 1: As we sign off today, crime online is confirming some
- 18:59Speaker 1: very sad knees. We focused Alan and I for some
- 19:05Speaker 1: time on a missing woman, Maricella, and we have learned
- 19:10Speaker 1: that Maricella Garcia, the young woman we were looking for,
- 19:14Speaker 1: she was last seeing by her sister leaving a local
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- 19:27Speaker 1: Tanya Kitchens, the private detective who's helped the Garcia family
- 19:30Speaker 1: since the twenty six year old Tarzana woman disappeared in January,
- 19:34Speaker 1: tells me today that a body found in the Santa
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- 19:41Speaker 1: been identified as being Maricella Garcia. Maricella was found about
- 19:46Speaker 1: twenty five miles north of the good Will store in Recita, California,
- 19:50Speaker 1: where she disappeared. Unfortunately, many of the clues that we
- 19:54Speaker 1: uncovered in our last podcast about this case in February,
- 19:58Speaker 1: apparently we're right on point. Our prayers and thoughts with
- 20:02Speaker 1: Marcella's family tonight. This is not the ending that we
- 20:07Speaker 1: wanted for this story, but it's the ending that we have,
- 20:11Speaker 1: and it makes me want even more to find missing
- 20:16Speaker 1: people before it's too late. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,