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Geoff Schwartz on NFL players coming back to college football, Under 19 sacks allowed for Utah this year (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to our number two.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in my good friend Jeff Schwartz, former Oregon Duck,
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  Speaker 2: who will talk about what The Athletic called his alma
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  Speaker 2: mater in an article yesterday. Jeff Schwartz, welcome. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, buddy. Getting ready for football this weekend, like
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  Speaker 3: real football.
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  Speaker 2: Real football. Week zero, TCU versus North Carolina. You live
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  Speaker 2: in North Carolina. How much are people hyped over that matchup?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, dude, it's dominating talking points. My kids come home
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  Speaker 3: from school like, Dad, everyone's talking about North Carolina, TCU.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure they are, buddy. No, I mean, no one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think people are just after the Lombardi stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I think just people from North Carolina just can't
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  Speaker 3: wait for this to be over, you know, and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: move on and find a different coach for, for this program.
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  Speaker 2: I'm, I'm putting out over-unders for the Utah football program,
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  Speaker 2: trying to hit some statistical predictions. And today's an important
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  Speaker 2: one for you. Offensive line types. It's a brand new unit,
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  Speaker 2: brand new offensive line coach. The anticipation is that Devin
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  Speaker 2: Dampier is going to be healthier this year and more escapable,
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  Speaker 2: more mobile. Last year, Utah gave up 14 sacks on
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  Speaker 2: the season. New Mexico, a couple years back, gave up
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  Speaker 2: five with him as their starting quarterback. And I'm setting
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  Speaker 2: the total at 19 and a half, which would be
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  Speaker 2: good enough for top five in last year's Big 12,
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  Speaker 2: top seven in most years. It's usually kind of a
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  Speaker 2: top 25 nationally, top 30 number if you give up.
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  Speaker 2: fewer than 19 sacks, or I should say 19 or
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  Speaker 2: fewer sacks since we're doing over-under. What would you say
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  Speaker 2: if you're predicting over or under 19 and a half
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  Speaker 2: sacks for Utah football in a year where they've got
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  Speaker 2: all that new stuff up front?
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  Speaker 3: I'd say under. Think about their schedule, first of all.
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  Speaker 3: Who are you really fearful is going to rush the
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  Speaker 3: passer in a way that really makes this unit stress?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a great answer for that. You
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  Speaker 3: miss some of the better defense's So that's sort of
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  Speaker 3: a very helpful for this for this young group as well.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Dan Pierre, right? Being able to move and
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  Speaker 3: whatnot and to create different ways to to avoid sacks into,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in college football and really in all football. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the way you can run the ball in
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  Speaker 3: college football that allows you to have very short third downs, right? And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of times you have a short
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  Speaker 3: third down and you don't get sacked on third and two, right?
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  Speaker 3: You run the ball on third and two. Like, you
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  Speaker 3: do different things on third and two and third and
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  Speaker 3: one than you would on third and seven, right? Like,
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  Speaker 3: when is Utah going to have a ton of pure dropbacks? Now,
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  Speaker 3: the only thing that is tough about this, right, is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes quarterback scrambles run out of bounds. Like,
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  Speaker 3: they can be counted as sacks, right? When they're not
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  Speaker 3: really sacks, Sean, that's the one thing I worry about
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  Speaker 3: with anything like this. But I think in the end,
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  Speaker 3: I think under 19 is very doable for this Utah
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  Speaker 3: offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: It would be a big thing for this offense because
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  Speaker 2: I think they are going to throw a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more this year. Last year, they were the number one
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  Speaker 2: run offense in the Big 12 and a top five
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  Speaker 2: run offense nationally. So I think you're going to pass
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more this year. And if you can
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  Speaker 2: keep that quarterback upright, you can keep that pocket clean,
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  Speaker 2: and you can lean on his– natural gifts as an
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  Speaker 2: escape artist. I do think it's a number you can hit,
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  Speaker 2: but that's why I said it where it is, because
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  Speaker 2: if you do good things, great things potentially, if you don't,
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  Speaker 2: I'd probably be a little disappointed by that.
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  Speaker 3: What are the reports out of camp about the offensive line? Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you don't get to see very much and whatnot, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's not much information. I did see Jordan
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  Speaker 3: post a picture the other day with those guys after camp.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that. Everyone looks excited for the season. But
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  Speaker 3: what do you got from camp so far?
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  Speaker 2: Well, depending on who you talk to, right, there's a
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  Speaker 2: certain level of optimism. I think a genuine level of optimism.
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  Speaker 2: But and maybe you can tell me, should we be
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  Speaker 2: concerned about this or not? We are in game prep
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  Speaker 2: now and they are not really ready to say who
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  Speaker 2: the best five are, who the starting five are. Camp
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  Speaker 2: ended on Saturday. And now they're doing install, and it's
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  Speaker 2: a long install period, right? And you're going up against
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  Speaker 2: the University of Idaho, so you could probably really extend
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  Speaker 2: your camp and those position battles a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: if you need to. But, you know, I was really
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  Speaker 2: pressing hard on some people and trying to, like, get
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  Speaker 2: some information.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Who are the top five? We don't know yet. If
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  Speaker 2: you had to start a group of five today, do
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  Speaker 2: you feel comfortable that you have the right five? We're
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  Speaker 2: still figuring that out, so... From a timeline perspective, is
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  Speaker 2: that a worry?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, Oregon's doing the same thing right now. Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: I think, doesn't know who their starting five is going
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  Speaker 3: to be. They didn't have an idea of who it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be, but you don't know sometimes until you
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  Speaker 3: actually play the game, Sean, right? You don't know until
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  Speaker 3: you get guys that are in there for a game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, there are guys that just aren't as
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  Speaker 3: good when the lights come on. That's what it is, right?
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  Speaker 3: You've got to play those guys. Some guys, there's young
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  Speaker 3: guys that are not ready to play yet until they're
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  Speaker 3: ready to play. You've got to give them those reps
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  Speaker 3: to see if they're ready to play. So, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be surprised if Utah even uses the first couple of
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  Speaker 3: games to rotate guys, right? I mean, it's commonplace to
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  Speaker 3: play maybe eight offensive linemen early in the season, right?
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  Speaker 3: You figure out where your best guys are. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: a conditioning thing, too. You want to make sure you're
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  Speaker 3: in shape to play a full game. So you just
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  Speaker 3: rotate guys through, and you have the luxury of doing
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  Speaker 3: that with some of your early seasons. It would not
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  Speaker 3: surprise me if they didn't have a firm group for
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I also... I'm going to bring back one that I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we had an opportunity to talk about. Kelvin Obot,
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  Speaker 2: who's the highest-rated recruit in program history and is an
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  Speaker 2: offensive lineman, played tackle in high school. We heard in
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  Speaker 2: spring that maybe they'll test him out at guard a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I also put an over-under on five-and-a-half games
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  Speaker 2: started this year for Kelvin Obot, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people were calling the under. I really think a guy
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  Speaker 2: like that, you're bringing him in to start right away
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  Speaker 2: I know it's harder on an offensive line than in
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  Speaker 2: other positions, but I think it's going to be over.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to start more than half the season.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I said it at five and a half.
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  Speaker 2: What would your assumption be?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I imagine they'd like him to play, right?
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  Speaker 3: And there's no redshirt rule anymore, right? So you can
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  Speaker 3: play as many games as you want and get that
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  Speaker 3: year back. So I would– he knows Jordan Gross, obviously, right?
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  Speaker 3: He's the one that Jordan coached in high school, right?
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: So he knows Jordan. Um, you know, that, that plays
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  Speaker 3: a role in this, right. Just having a familiarity with it,
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  Speaker 3: with the offensive line coach, I would imagine can't hurt you,
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  Speaker 3: you know, um, in this situation. I, I think that,
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  Speaker 3: I think Utah would love if this was over, right.
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  Speaker 3: They would love that if he played, well, start, I
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  Speaker 3: should say more than five games. I, I think that
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  Speaker 3: you need him to, well, I think that over in
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  Speaker 3: also the question is what about, is it going to
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  Speaker 3: be a guard or tackle? I, that one's harder for
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  Speaker 3: me to, to predict.
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  Speaker 2: You have a guy you brought in from the National
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  Speaker 2: Championship Montana State team at the 1AA level, Cedric Jefferson,
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  Speaker 2: who is factoring into the right tackle discussion. We all
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  Speaker 2: think Zerway Williams, who's this gigantic monster 6'8 left tackle,
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  Speaker 2: is going to be one of the mainstays, right? So
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  Speaker 2: maybe him at left tackle. There's a guy named Ike
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  Speaker 2: Garcia who's a local kid who is a highly rated
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  Speaker 2: recruit who hasn't been able to stay healthy. He is
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  Speaker 2: now in his third year in the program, and apparently
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  Speaker 2: it was a big battle with him and the Jefferson
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  Speaker 2: guy at right tackle. There's nothing wrong with, if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to use the true freshman, letting him be a
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  Speaker 2: guard for the first year and then bumping him out
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  Speaker 2: to tackle as need, right? Or no?
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  Speaker 3: You don't really go out. Once you move inside, that's
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  Speaker 3: the end of it. Really? No. Yeah, you don't see
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  Speaker 3: many guys going back out to tackle.
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  Speaker 2: Like Zane Beatles.
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  Speaker 3: Injury can dictate that. Sometimes guys have to go inside
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  Speaker 3: because of injury, but a lot of times you don't
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  Speaker 3: start a guard and move back out to tackle. That's
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  Speaker 3: something that doesn't happen very often.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Utah football has done that with a
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  Speaker 2: couple of guys, though. Maybe that's why my view on
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  Speaker 2: this is skewed.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Utah has done it. I just know from other experiences,
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  Speaker 3: from definitely the NFL, that You rarely go inside and
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  Speaker 3: go back out in your career. I mean, obviously, I
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  Speaker 3: did not do that. I stayed inside once I moved inside. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if the idea is we want to get our best five.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of our best five. He's our third best tackle.
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  Speaker 3: We want him to play. Okay, but here's the thing
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  Speaker 3: about that. If he plays well at guard, you're probably
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  Speaker 3: going to feel like you should just keep him there.
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  Speaker 3: Like what? why move a player who's really good at
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  Speaker 3: a position, right? We could find some more tackles. That's
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  Speaker 3: what it comes down to, right? If he plays well
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  Speaker 3: enough as a guard, you're probably like, well, let's just
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  Speaker 3: keep him a guard.
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  Speaker 2: But aren't you supposed to put your best athletes on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line to tackle?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, probably that's why I think you just keep
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  Speaker 3: him a tackle. Don't even bother putting him a guard.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I think that would affect the number of
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  Speaker 2: over-under on.
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  Speaker 3: How many games he actually starts. I just would be
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  Speaker 3: surprised if he played guard for a season and went
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  Speaker 3: back out to tackle. That's something that's Not very common. Interesting. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see how it plays out for Kelvin Obot.
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  Speaker 2: People are probably so sick of hearing me talk about him,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm excited about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's important for the program to have guys succeed like
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  Speaker 3: that because it really opens up the door to other
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  Speaker 3: guys that want to come into the program in similar
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  Speaker 3: type players, right? you can get players like him to
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  Speaker 3: play well early on, then you can really sell that
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  Speaker 3: to other five-star recruits. It's an important piece if he's
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  Speaker 3: able to do it this year.
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  Speaker 2: The Big Ten is going to put a rule in
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  Speaker 2: place that you cannot boomerang. You can't go into the
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  Speaker 2: pros in any way and then come back. And the
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  Speaker 2: SEC's talking about it. The Big 12's talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: The ACC's talking about it. Really, it's going to affect
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  Speaker 2: the SEC more than anyone because those are the schools
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  Speaker 2: that are like, academics.
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  Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 2: We want you, right? Your thoughts on guys that were
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  Speaker 2: undrafted free agents or maybe late-round picks who get the
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  Speaker 2: message pretty early, you're not going to stick in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL this year, wanting to come back for that extra
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  Speaker 2: year of eligibility.
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  Speaker 3: So these schools are very clearly using whatever power they
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  Speaker 3: have left to have some sort of semblance of uniformity, right?
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  Speaker 3: Because there's no power left anymore for these universities and
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  Speaker 3: these programs. There's no power left. They've been stripped of
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  Speaker 3: all their power. So they have a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: power here, right? They're trying to use it, which I
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  Speaker 3: agree with in this instance. Look, Sean, life is not fair,
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  Speaker 3: as we know, right? And these 2022 players, right, they
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  Speaker 3: kind of got screwed. The class after them, the 2023 class,
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  Speaker 3: gets an extra year. The couple classes before them got
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  Speaker 3: extra COVID year. They sort of did benefit from any
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  Speaker 3: of this. And I just sort of say, like, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why we change everything because of it. Now,
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  Speaker 3: where does it stop, right? Sean, let's say that they
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  Speaker 3: are granted relief and they're allowed to play this season,
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  Speaker 3: which might happen. Judge Munchie, the Big Ten and SEC
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  Speaker 3: can't have these rules in place. Then, Why couldn't a
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  Speaker 3: 2019 kid say, well, I didn't get a COVID year
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't get a fifth year. Well, I feel
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  Speaker 3: the screen ran against. So I didn't get a fifth year.
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  Speaker 3: I put 80 snaps as a true freshman. They changed
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  Speaker 3: the rules after I left. Do I get to claim
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  Speaker 3: some relief from a judge if I want to go
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  Speaker 3: back and play? If I get a speeding ticket and
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  Speaker 3: then six months later, they changed the speed, the legal speed.
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  Speaker 3: Do I get to go back and tell the judge, hey, man,
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  Speaker 3: you changed the speed. I didn't break the law. There's
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  Speaker 3: obviously no one's breaking a law here. But at some point,
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  Speaker 3: don't we just have to say, like, you kind of
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  Speaker 3: got screwed. I'm sorry. The rules are the rules. You
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  Speaker 3: didn't know at the time, but you went to the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: You've made a roster. You haven't made a roster. You've
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  Speaker 3: signed an agent. You've been part of the NFL. You're
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  Speaker 3: just not going to play college football anymore. At some point,
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  Speaker 3: we have to just put our foot down on some
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  Speaker 3: of this stuff. And I think in the end, a
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  Speaker 3: judge will overrule this anyway. So all we're talking about now,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't even matter, but. At some point, you have
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  Speaker 3: to put your foot down, Sean, and say, this is it.
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  Speaker 3: Enough is enough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you at all. What I'm curious
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  Speaker 2: about is why it is judges... Because the NCAA puts
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  Speaker 2: their foot down, or the conferences are going to put
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  Speaker 2: their foot down, or whoever's going to... Like, the powers
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  Speaker 2: that be try to put their foot down, and then
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  Speaker 2: there's some district court judge in Louisiana who's just like,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to pick that foot back up. We're not
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  Speaker 2: doing that. I don't know, like... I don't know why,
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  Speaker 2: because you brought up a really great example. There's plenty
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  Speaker 2: of laws that have changed over the course of history,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not like everyone who broke that law just
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  Speaker 2: gets let out of jail.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: The judge thing is interesting, right? You know, it's just
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  Speaker 3: that we have federal laws, state laws. Every state has
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  Speaker 3: their own law. And you can understand it. Look, a lot.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, these are not really, like, judgments. For example, like,
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  Speaker 3: what's happening is someone is suing, right? And while they're suing,
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  Speaker 3: the judge goes, okay, I'll grant you relief. You can
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  Speaker 3: now play, all right? Then the NCAA goes to a
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  Speaker 3: different court, and they say, you know what? We're going
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  Speaker 3: to pause that ruling right now until we have an actual, like...
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  Speaker 3: It's not... Does that make sense? No one's actually winning anything.
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  Speaker 3: They're just judges changing their mind to give themselves time
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  Speaker 3: to give our actual ruling. So like that, and then
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  Speaker 3: you have obviously different states and the federal, it's just,
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  Speaker 3: it's all over the place. And it's a, it's a problem,
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  Speaker 3: you know, created by NCAA. We were on the air
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  Speaker 3: for years talking about these type of topics, right? NCAA
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  Speaker 3: just did not foresee any of this happening. And it's
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  Speaker 3: going to cost them their sports, a wrong word to use,
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  Speaker 3: but it's just going to, Everything's just going to be
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  Speaker 3: different now, man. The whole sport is different. It's not
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  Speaker 3: going back the other way either.
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  Speaker 2: The basketball involvement in this is funny. I know that
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  Speaker 2: we're rounding into football season, but we've been flirting with the...
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  Speaker 2: There's been pro-European guys that have played in college basketball
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  Speaker 2: for years. The line is muddy with that. Now that
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  Speaker 2: college football is being affected, now is when these conferences
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  Speaker 2: feel like they need to address it. It just shows
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  Speaker 2: you how powerful college football is when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: the landscape.
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  Speaker 3: It does. College basketball, it's interesting, right? Because they feel
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  Speaker 3: like they have more of this happening in college basketball,
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  Speaker 3: and it just hasn't been the same. I mean, college basketball,
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  Speaker 3: they got dudes that play like G League games going back,
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  Speaker 3: which is like insane. I mean, these NFL players haven't
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  Speaker 3: played NFL games yet. I guess they played in preseason games.
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  Speaker 3: There's no minor league NFL. um but yeah college basketball
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't have the same attention that the football players
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  Speaker 3: do i think it's i think also like if this
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  Speaker 3: happened in in may you'd feel differently but it's happening
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  Speaker 3: while players are leaving nfl camps now and going back
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  Speaker 3: to college like they're literally in like i think i'd
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  Speaker 3: feel differently this happened right after the draft i'm like
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  Speaker 3: okay all right like i sure i okay i get
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  Speaker 3: it but The draft was months ago now. That was
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  Speaker 3: the end of April. Life has moved on, man.
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  Speaker 2: Would you rather block for Deshaun Watson or Shador Sanders
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  Speaker 2: in Cleveland?
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  Speaker 3: Ask for a trade. Are we talking just football or
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  Speaker 3: are we talking everything?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, everything factors in here.
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  Speaker 3: I would not want to play with Deshaun Watson. I
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  Speaker 3: think as a quarterback... he throws the ball quicker and
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: on time. That's the thing I worry about most, right?
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Like if my quarterback doesn't throw the ball on time
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: or not. And Sanders just doesn't throw the ball on
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: time enough. But I also don't want to play with
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: a quarterback who's going to get booed by our fans
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: every time he steps on the field. So, I mean,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I would probably lean towards Sanders in this instance over
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Watson because Watson's a scumbag and he's not very good
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and he gets booed endlessly the entire season. And Sanders,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: at least, seems like a good kid. He might hold
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the ball a little bit too long and make my
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: life a little more difficult, but he'll make some good
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: plays on the run. Sanders is what he is, man.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: It's so interesting about the Sanders. It's a football player, right?
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: And I talk about this a lot. I like using
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: and thinking about sort of like historical trends, right? And
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: it's important. So right now there's only two starting quarterbacks
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: in national football, like franchise guys, all right? So that
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: second contract, right, Sean, or a young player in a
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: rookie deal, right? Like Drake May, right? Franchise guy, rookie contract.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: There's only two in the NFL that are not drafted
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: in the top 53 picks, right? 53rd is Jalen Hurts.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: It's Dak Prescott and Brock Purdy, all right? And both
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: those guys were good. almost immediately as rookies. Dak played
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: from year one, game one, and I think Purdy ended
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: up playing like week 12. And they were good immediately.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And Sanders is a fifth-round pick, man. Like, he's not
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: that good. I think people have missed the plot on this, man.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: They're so into the... Politics is the wrong word. I
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: don't know what you want to call it in this
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: situation where the Sanders defenders are just like... They're very supportive.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: They're very passionate about Sanders. And he's a fifth-round pick, man.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: And now this is now two coaching staffs who said,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: we don't want you to be our starter from, from
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: week one.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: It's, uh, his, his place in the culture is very
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: odd given his place on the field. If that is
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the right way to put it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And you know, like, you know, in the Tebow was
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: a first round pick who played a lot of football games. Oh,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: you loved, I love Tebow.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, a lot of the time we discuss those,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: it's like first round picks, right? Like we don't argue
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: about fifth round picks very often. Um, And it just
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: seems like, you know, I think sometimes we're just too online.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: At least I am. Like, I think all the time about, like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: how would this topic be, like, in real life? Like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: my neighbor, who's, like, a fringe football fan, if he was, like,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: talking about Sanders, I was like, he's fifth-round pick. He's like, oh, yeah, okay, yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: he's not playing. That makes sense. Or some of the
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: WNBA stuff, I'd be like, you know, if I bring
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: it up to him, he'd be like, yeah, that's, wait, really?
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: That's what's happening? We're just so online, like, Are people
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: in real life really arguing about Sanders' viability as a
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: long-term starter as a fifth-round pick? This is such an
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: online discussion.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It is very much. Is there a week-zero game that
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you're actually looking forward to?
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I took USC over 48.5 points against San Jose State.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I was doing some research on this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I do love how when I ask a question about
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: a game you're actually looking forward to, you just go
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: to what you are willing to bet on.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: That's how I'm going to watch football this weekend. I
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: was looking this up today. USC loves, dude, to run
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: it up on these teams. The last three times they
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: played a San Jose State, it was Utah. I have
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: it right here. I was doing this before it got
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: on the air. It was Utah State in 2024, Missouri
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: State last year, and Georgia Southern last year as well.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: They went well over 40.5 points. But they scored 14 points,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: 17 points, and 14 points in the fourth quarters of
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: those three games. That's a lot of points. For reference,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Oregon last year played Montana State in Week 1, Oklahoma
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: State in Week 2. They scored seven total fourth-quarter points
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in those two games. Like USC, they just run it up, bro.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: They love to do it. And there's nothing wrong with it. But,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: you know, they're going to score a ton of points
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: this weekend. I want to watch that game. Obviously, some
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: interest in the Dublin game. The loser of that game,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: like their season just goes down the drain fast. Go
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: look at the results the last couple of years. I'm
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: curious about Stanford with Tavita Pritchard, you know, in week one,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: just to sort of see where they're at. You know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I talked to him AC Media Day. I like talking
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: with him. So it's a lot to get. Dude, there's
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Thursday night. There's a FCS Thursday night.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: You're going to be watching that?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know. If I have a bet on it,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: maybe I will. I know you'll be locked into some
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Weber State playing Thursday night.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Are they?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Who's the Weber State opener? Do you have your pocket
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: schedule handy?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when we used to get, like, pocket schedules?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I think my dad would keep, like, the usual one
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: in his wallet. That's so fantastic.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: The pocket schedule not as good as the magnet schedule,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the fridge magnet schedule.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: We had both of those. Before I get out of here,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: everyone go to my Twitter, at Jeff Schwartz. Can we
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: talk a second about my son's video that I posted
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: on there?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. It's so good.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: So my son is 12.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: He's awesome.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: He just turned 12. He's the best kid of all time.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And he was going to his first bat mitzvah party
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: this weekend. The first party he has to wear a
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: jacket to. So I told him, you know, In Temple
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: in the morning, for Temple, you have to wear a
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: collared shirt, right? A white collared shirt. He wore a
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: blue blazer and some slacks. And for the party, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: was like, look, bro, you got to wear your jacket
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: there to the country club. You can wear a polo underneath.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: You can wear a polo underneath. You can take it off.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: You're 12. Who cares? So he goes to the party,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: all right? My wife texts me a video on Sunday
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: morning from a security camera that we have under a
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: mirror in our house. And my son was doing shadow
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: boxing and kickboxing.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: With the jacket on. And I asked him afterwards, yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I was just testing to see if I could move
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: in it. Dude, it's the right thing to do. He
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: threw about three punches. He did it like an elbow punch.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: What's that call when you throw your elbow like that?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: It's called an elbow.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: A what?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's called an elbow.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, he threw an elbow. He did like a kick.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: He did a kick. Then he did a jump kick.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, he's like, I'm ready to go, Dad.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's so sick. And it's awesome because... We've all
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: done that. Every one of us goes in front of
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: a mirror and you make a different face. It's not
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: your real face. You're trying to look better in the mirror.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: You suck your gut in, right? But when you're younger,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: maybe you throw a couple of punches. Maybe you're making
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: sure you got your mobility. You never know what's going
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: to happen at a bat mitzvah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I just love it. So good. He's never been in
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: a fight ever. Mike, there's never been a fight. He's
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: not close to a fight. There's no need for him
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: to know any of those skills ever.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Look, if someone tries to cut in with your dance
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: with your lady at the bat mitzvah, come on.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: It's the best. Go look at the video on Jeff's Twitter.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: It really is great.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: If you turn up the volume, you can hear the
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: noises he's making with his mouth. He's making noises with
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: his mouth. So awesome. And that was legitimately... 10 minutes
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: before he went to the party.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Does he know that you've put this out for the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: whole world to see?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows. He doesn't care.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Was he mad?
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: No, he laughed so hard.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: He is really the best. That's awesome.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: He's an awesome kid. I love that kid. I love
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: my daughter too, but they're just different kids. It's so good.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I love that. I feel like that's some of your
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: influence on us.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, I hope so. All right, we've got to try
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to stay on clock, so I'm going to cut you loose,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: but you're the man.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. All right. Bye-bye.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: That's Jeff Schwartz, former NFL player, Oregon duck, betting expert,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: not going back to get more eligibility and trying to play.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz is actually the kind of person who, if
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: he lived here in Utah, I would be sending him
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: to Southern steer butcher in Saratoga Springs. And he would
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: make the trip. Even if he was up here in
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: salt Lake, where I'm at 1705 North Redwood road down
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in Saratoga Springs, uh, And he would walk in, and
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: he would talk to Dan and Aubrey, and he would say, look,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I need this exact cut. I need a bone-in ribeye.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I don't want it to be an inch thick. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: need it one and three-quarters thick. He would have very,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: very particular interests on the cut of meat because he's
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a bit of a gourmand. Jeff is the kind of
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: guy who knows exactly what he wants from his butcher.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: They can accommodate that at Southern Steer. They'll cut that
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: thing for you while you wait. All right? You want
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the big tomahawk steak that's been dry-aged, They have the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: dry aging locker right there. You can go in, you
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: can point at it. I want that one. If you're
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: not necessarily that discerning with the palate or that discerning
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: with your meat, maybe you're not somebody who knows exactly
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: what the best fit is or what kind of ribs
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you should be feeding your guests for the college football barbecue.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Let Dan and Aubrey walk you through it or better yet,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: let them give you one of the pre-made meals or
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: three of the pre-made meals. You can get three pre-made meals, sides,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Main meat, everything for less than $ 60, 59 bucks, everything
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: you need for three complete meals. You need the seasonings,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the salts, the rubs, the jams, the sides, the chips.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: They have it all down there. at Southern steer and
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: they're going to give you a smile. They're going to
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: give you some advice. They're going to treat you like
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: the neighborhood butcher used to treat your grandma and your grandpa.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It's that concept, but with a modern twist at Southern
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: steer butcher, tell them OC sent you join the Southern
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: steer rewards club for the daily and weekly savings and
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: take advantage of clean, fresh meat, hormone free, antibiotic free.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It's the kind of stuff you should be feeding your
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: family now, and you can do it without breaking the bank.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: at Southern steer 1705 North Redwood road in Saratoga Springs.