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- Nietzsche actually called Paul the true founder of Christianity, not Jesus. But this conversation doesn't happen with an evangelical because it's not necessarily discussed directly in the Bible, therefore they don't care to discuss it. This is how we see Christianity. We are correct. You're the heretic. Welcome to Quantum Bombs, a commentary show on the human condition through metaphysics and freedom. Normally, I try to strip everything away that is me, human, ego, all of my five senses and unify with God. But today, we're tacking all that human stuff on, language and theology to argue it out. And normally, I'm simple. I'm just arguing for believers, right? I'm arguing is materialism matter, the fundamental substance versus is idealism, consciousness, the fundamental substance of our reality, meaning you believe in God, right? So I'm normally just trying to cheer us on to believe, right? Today, I'm taking that further. We're picking Christianity as our religion. And we're going over the 13 flavors of Christianity that I have found. And you would think it's not healthy to put us in a box, but it really is to understand a box, to know what the box represents and stands for, and then to realize you're a paradoxically new nuanced human being. And you probably fall into multiple boxes. I myself fall into eight of the 13 that we're going to go over. But the funny thing is, to me, this today, right here, our conversation is the most intimate thing, a human being, a choice. It's not even a choice. It's something that you're literally born with. Some may not be aware of it, and they're okay, and they're just going along with the flow. But the choice I'm talking about is how you see God, how do you see Jesus, which is today's topic, when you're dying, when you're falling out of the sky or in a plane and going to crash, your literal, oh, Jesus moment, how do you see that God? How did you see it as a child? So for me, that's how I know that I stand firmly in these boxes, because from a child, I struggled with a lot of these thoughts. I had the big questions from a young age, which is why I'll probably spend the rest of my life talking about things like this. So nothing can be more personal than your own choice of how your heart feels about what we're going to be talking about today. And this is a philosophical show over everything. This is all literal philosophy. So why does your relationship with the infinite really get determined by where you're born? Is your deepest belief actually yours, or is it simply just inherited by your zip code? And I have this theory. You've heard that humans have these three primal needs, which is belonging, safety, and status. And you can't have safety or status without belonging to a tribe. So I think that for the most part, people's easiest flavor of Christianity, they probably chose, correlates with their zip code, because that wiring for belonging, which gives you that safety, overrides critical thinking. And later on in life, when you are deconstructing it, it's the reverse of that really. That's just my theory. And you know, the fact that there's 13 of these flavors says this is healthy, because if there was just one, that means power consolidated, wiped out everything else, and it's just corruption. And then the joke I'd like to think of is, when you think, why didn't Jesus just write it down himself? Why are we arguing over who said what to whom, when, etc? If Jesus wanted us to just have one, he would have just wrote it down himself. Okay, so, but this isn't about Christianity necessarily today. Again, I'm always a big philosophy person. This is about free will and your identity. And is if, is anybody really choosing? And if so, who are they? So without further ado, let's jump in. We have 13 of them, we're gonna go through them. All right, I have no allegiance to the order we do this in. Let's start with a fun one. Actually, I learned this today, a progressive Christian kept Jesus, but they accept the LGBTQ plus and reject eternal hell. They see the Bible as inspired, but not infallible, meaning it could be wrong, where many deconstructionists land after the process, heavy overlap with the left leaning political values. And there's 61 million views under progressive Christianity on TikTok. Very interesting. I wanted to, I wanted to literally include all. And so speak, so we'll knock out another one that's probably not very popular, but we do know about them. And I wanted to definitely include them is the, anyone that would be Amish, Mennonites, Huterites, excuse the pronunciation, would be considered an Anabaptist separatist. And the Anabaptist literally just means that they don't get baptized as a child, they wait till later on in life. The difference is, isn't what they believe about Christ, it's what they believe Christ demands of them, which would be the literal following of teachings of Jesus, meaning more pacifism, simplicity, community, total separation from the worldly life. I know they want complete separation from church and state. All right, let's move more into the broader topics that we can all kind of jive with. Man, this is tough. I don't know which order to go in. Let's just start simple with where I started yesterday, which is, am I a Christian Apologist? I have a star here because this is one of the eight that I consider myself to be in. Defends Christianity through logic, evidence, and philosophical arguments. Focuses on providing God's existence and the reliability of scripture. Examples are C.S. Lewis, William Lane Craig. Their job is to make the intellectual case for faith. I do that, but really through philosophy, not through theologies. So this is like a, like a 2% of my toe, my toes in this, in this camp. All right, I'm just going to go down the rows now. That way we just know where we're heading. A big part of myself and my heart is in this one, Christian heretic. This one is very easy. I'm just going to explain it to you guys. Okay, so after Jesus died, we have the original OGs, right? They were the, some of the camps of OGs were Gnostics. Now we fast forward. So that's the first century, right? Right after Christ died. Fast forward into the, about 325 AD, our fourth century. We've got a political power realm, strong. And they're like, this is how we see Christianity. We are correct. You're the heretic. And they also made the word heretic sound bad, but the actual original meaning means one who chooses. So it just means simply that someone that has a different interpretation of something, but that's the point I like to make is that do they have the different interpretation or were they the accurate, correct interpretation because they were immediately following. But then we were told that they were wrong. And then you're like, well, Beth, what do they even believe? Well, the Rome, I think they burned up all of their books. They burned their text and called them heretics. But the Nag Hammadi survived. It was buried in Egypt and found in 1945. I also want to state with that political power of Rome. Heretic is a power word, not a truth word. So you know how winners write history. This is a perfect example. You could argue with me in the comments if you think not, because for most people, this is probably the first time you're hearing it. The winners wrote history and they said that Rome wins. We have the right idea on Christianity and we say it's this, right? And gosh forbid, we could spend eternity arguing over what this was that Rome was even talking about. But for Gnostics, very loose, I would say that they definitely are more than the camps of these other camps that we'll be going through, which believe that the soul was on a journey. So the soul existed before it went into the wound. I don't want to speak too much out of turn, most likely believed in reincarnation and cycles. And the soul is basically always one with God. So once God created himself, if you believe in reincarnation, you're kind of forever, your point of view, which is your consciousness never doesn't cease to exist, right? You're just coming in and out of forms of God's creation. Moving on. Oh, I don't want to do deconstructionist yet. Such a heavy one. No, let's dive in. I promise we'd go in order. So that way I'm not biased. Christian deconstructionist, also a new term I found out. I'm actually in this bucket as well, not heavily, but a little bit. Questioning, actually heavily, but this was me. My deconstruction happened when I was as a child and in my 20s. So I did it much younger on. Not saying anybody needs to go on a journey. There's no right or wrong. Again, this is the most intimate topic. I hope you have your own. Do not let me influence you in whatsoever. Questioning the church's culture is what deconstruction is. It's not necessarily questioning the Bible. I did notice though when I did a search on YouTube, my understanding of it is that the Christians who are more on the evangelical fundamentalist side are trying to spin this as not such a bad thing and that they're, they would say it's more of a deconstruction of the Bible itself. But by the term we're using it here, it's more so, no, it's on the church itself, not on the Bible, but the church's culture of how they're interpreting the Bible. These people still love Jesus. They're questioning the packaging, not the person. So they're not an apostate. That means someone that left the church. Deconstructionists are not apostates. They're not leaving. They're just dissecting. Common problems they push back on is eternal hell, original sin, altar calls. That's when they call you up to the altar. Hey, if you want to be saved and accept Jesus into your life, come up here now. You know, no pressure. Everybody's looking. Public shaming, purity culture. I actually don't know honestly what public shaming and I can guess what purity culture is. I'm not around it much, even though I'm completely surrounded by evangelicals and fundamentalists. So this must exist though, right? Purity culture or to some extent, prosperity gospel, anti-LGBTQs to hint suppression of questions, guilt-based salvation and biblical literalism. I feel kind of bad that I went through that fast because that's a lot and I don't even like mixing it together because I do think there is a really valid debate about progressive Christianity in general and then we're lumping that in with someone that's going to be more just focused on biblical literalism, two separate things, right? But it's just showing you the many different facets of, I don't want to say traditional Christian because the whole point of me making this episode is that I don't see, honestly, I've traveled. I don't see a traditional Christian. If you go to the other side of the world, you're going to really be blown away by how other Christians worship. In fact, I remember seeing someone like most Christians I know would call this demonic, but it's not. It's just a different way Christians worship. Okay, moving on. Massive, this is a massive movement over one billion views on TikTok under deconstruction. Many are raised evangelical and are now turning to deconstructionism through the Eastern Orthodox lens. I found this very interesting. It feels ancient and intellectual, rather emotional and controlling. This I love because I noticed this myself when it's basically people that don't want the coffee culture and concert at church and they just want to smell what Jesus might have smelled back 2000 years ago, right? They want to sing the same hymns or the same sound that it would have sounded like for him versus an Instagram church. Let's be real. Another bullet point often triggered by the questions saved from what exactly and who decided I need saving. That's a bigger topic. I'm going to make another episode specifically on the three camps of Jesus's crucifixion, whether it was transactional, whether it was an act of love, an act of truth, or whether the camp says, well, both of you guys are wrong. The fact that you're focusing on that and you're stuck on the cross is the issue when Jesus came here to teach something totally different. So there's many different camps of thought on how to look at the crucifixion. I'll just say spoiler alert. I actually find truth in all three. Another popular thought you might find in the deconstructionist camp is that Jesus, you know, be still and know that I am God. You know, the kingdom of heaven is within you. They're more of the ones that are going to be preaching that self-awareness, self-enlightenment of what you are as a child of God versus more sin based. Christian mystics, the kingdom of heaven is within you. Be still and know that I am God. This is their mantra. These are the ones that they're really just sitting. If you just took those two Bible quotes, this is all they need. Got a star here. My flag is planted here primarily. If you had to only choose one bucket, this would be my one bucket that I chose out of all of the eight. This person seeks direct personal experience and communion with God. The prayer, meditation, and contemplation are the path, not the doctrine. Mystic comes from the Greek mysties, one who has been initiated into direct experience. Hollywood run this term mystical and it got lumped in with rituals, magic, and the occult. A mystic just means someone who sits in direct communion with God. Examples, one of my favorite Saint Francis of Assisi's. That boy was a yogi, amazing Catholic saint. A lot of Catholic has crossed over into this. Saint John of the Cross and my own personal guru, Yogananda, who is an Eastern yogi and without him, I wouldn't be a Christian today. I was raised Catholic, left Christianity kind of, was secular Christianity, but really just not willing to bite it. I was already deconstructed out of the logic. Yogananda's logic and more so love and devotion for God brought me back to understanding Christ. In my own lens, and I hope you have your own beautiful lens as well, Eastern Orthodox Christianity is comfortably sitting here as well. They call it theoses, becoming one with God. Their theology embraces mystery, the unknowable nature of God and direct experience. A mystic doesn't need the Bible to be historically verified because they go straight to the source. I guess if I had to speak on argument of why this makes sense for us, and again, this is what I mean, it's so personal, like what works for me doesn't have to work for you, it shouldn't work for you. But in my own eye, my lane, the logic is that my own personal experience is 100% knowledge where if I go to an intellectual academic lens of reading, I can only absorb, but real knowing comes from direct experience. Now the caveat is, well Beth, if you're reading words that are blessed vibrationally and are anointed, that is different. And I absolutely 100% agree with you. But again, if you're in that oh crap moment, and you're really falling, and you're like, or you know, when you're transitioning in the death experience, if you've already sat in with one with God, with Christ consciousness, Jesus himself, and you've already died to self and died, literally. I say that because in meditation, you're turning off the breath, you're turning off the hearts no longer beating and deeper states meditation, you're literally just sitting in union with God. So yeah, I would argue that that is the stronger case I'm making that the knowing for me comes from the sitting with and unifying with. And there is a million, if not billion, differential stages of how deep you can go in that experience, right? Some people may meditate their whole life and only hit surface level meditations. Others may meditate one time only and have the most deepest spiritual experience with God giving them as one, everything they would ever need to know, plus more of that ever new bliss of, you know, I think it's omnipresent, ever new bliss, ever existence, ever consciousness are the four things you could add in wisdom, but I think omnipresence would cover that those are the four aspects though that makes up God. Restorationists are going to be our Jehovah's Witness, Mormons, Churches of Christ, Stone Campbell movement. Don't know much about these, but they believe Christianity got corrupted and needs to be restored. They claim that God has a new revelation to fix what went wrong. And then there, this is slightly different from a revisionist, which we'll get to shortly. These, these people are adding new material in. They're not just reinterpreting the old from the Bible. All right, let's get to the biggest one, the biggest one today. Well, I shouldn't say that. I haven't, I haven't asked, I didn't put these into a population. So I don't know who's the biggest one. I would presume though, I live here in Texas, right here, I would consider heavily in the Bible belt. I understand what evangelical is, and it's very dominant here in America. Not necessarily. I don't know. I can't speak to Europe. Well, I know it's Europe is secularism and the East is orthodox, but the Bible here in evangelical world is the ultimate authority. It is infallible and not to be questioned. Infallible meaning it's correct as is. You must be born again and saved. Spreading the gospel is the mission. Cuts across denominations, meaning I got Baptist friends that are evangelical. I've got non-denominational friends that are evangelical. The altar call is done here. Public pressure to walk up to the front and give your life to Jesus. When I was younger, I was at a Catholic Charismatic Center trying to heal my mother of cancer actually, and they did an altar call, I believe. If my memory serves me, I only have a few memories when I was young. Anyways, I was scared to pieces. They were asking if you believe in Jesus and you want to accept him. Well, I knew that if you deny the Holy Spirit, if you deny Jesus, I could burn in hell for eternity. So, I really struggled with that. As a child, I had the fear in me that I was forever cursed because of this reason. Because I was at this Charismatic place where they did an altar call and I was scared to pieces. I'm just a young person. I don't want to go up and, you know, this is actually, per AI, which is often wrong, a very common complaint of someone going through like a deconstruction of their own faith. This is the Jesus is the only way or you're going wrong energy. Presuppositional thinking. So, this is the Bible is the starting point and nothing outside of it can challenge it. And I totally understand this because I'm someone that dedicate my life to just always thinking the only the big questions. And so, I love coming in. I devoted time to physics, philosophy, but for someone that's in this camp, they can't, I try it. I try it a lot with my friends and family. They kind of just look at me or they just explain this isn't in the Bible. Therefore, they don't know nor do they care to discuss it. So, when you are talking about like, like I just did, I've mentioned souls, right? I mentioned the four parts of, or no, I mentioned the four parts that makes up God. Your soul has the same unknown God substance in it minus the omnipresent part, but you have the ever existence, ever new bliss, ever conscious aspect. But this conversation doesn't happen with an evangelical because it's not necessarily discussed directly in the Bible. Therefore, they don't care to discuss it. Do you see what I'm saying? So, it's like, I believe my, I know I have value. I know I love talking about what I talk about, but it falls onto deaf ears here in this realm because those things maybe are talked about, but not necessarily. Because even right then, when I'm using the word ever new consciousness, I think that would fall more on a more of a fundamentalist depends on how tight the funnel is. And I'll talk about the funnel in a second, but if the funnel is pretty tight, it's straight demonic, right? It's a hard no already, right? So, it's a closed mind, but that's okay. But that's the point, the slippery slope they're walking when you're saying if the Bible is presuppositional thinking, meaning this is it, it doesn't allow them to really discuss a lot of what else is happening in the world like within physics and quantum physics, which most of us already kind of know quantum physics is what we could use with science to bridge into the spiritual realm, into the metaphysical realm. Being saved, they believe you are condemned by default and it must actively accept Jesus or face eternal punishment. I have such love for this and I have such mixed views, but it's like, I don't know, I'm a yes and it's hard to explain, but that's why I want to make another show. But there is some metaphysical truth to this, but the evangelicals, they do believe this and God bless them for doing it. Original sin, you were born at a sinner without your consent condemned before you've done anything. But don't worry because that's Jesus sacrifice. That's the transaction I mentioned earlier, is that he suffers for you so you don't have to. I wrote three types because in my brain, there's three types of evangelicals. There's the derpers, there's, I call them the NPCs. They literally were just born into it. They are more interested in deer hunting the corn crop this year and they are going to their local church because it makes sense. They like the fish fries, the raffles, you get what I'm saying. I'm not trying to be smart, but it's just I'm naming what I'm living. You've got the middle ground people. And also these two camps just show up probably around, they probably just show up around holidays. And then you have the third type, which is kind of what I'm also surrounding. Again, this is my best friends in the world, friends and family. They are, they read the Bible every day, every morning. They interpret it. They logic through it. They raise their family directly with it. And everything they do in their life is a fundamental representation of how the Bible would want them to make that decision. And I think that's absolutely beautiful. I really do. I think the only time it crosses over as a hardship for me is kind of what I've already named, which is the, let's talk about the bigger questions. And then if it's not directly, if it is addressed in the Bible, I'm going to say it's some, sometimes it is, but it's not in the medical physical framing that I see it in, or it's more of a, in a literal framing versus a metaphorical framing. God bless the evangelicals. We've got a very close friend of theirs. I'm just going to do it because it's healthy for us to stay in the same mind frame right now. Let's just jump on over to the fundamentalist group, which, so let me just read it through you. Strictly literal Bible interpretation, word for word, it's not symbolic, as I was just saying, or metaphysical. So young earth creationism is found in fundamentalism. And it's also found in some evangelicals. So the earth is roughly 6,000 years old based on Genesis being directly accurate. They reject evolution, carbon dating, and any science that contradicts the scripture. They reject secular culture. Anything not built on the biblical principles is dangerous. Again, I'm living, it sounds like this is crazy, but not really. I'm living around it and among it. I live on a farm where we have four kids that, not me, I'm single, but you know, my neighbors have four kids that are, are actually all my best friends, my sister, multiple best friends, four kids, all homeschooled. You see, so that's what they mean by they reject the secular culture and are going to choose to teach their children their truth, our truth as Christians, even though we have 13 different versions of it. And all of these 13 different versions have so many different sex than them as well. Okay, evangelicals think fundamentalists are extreme. And the fundamentalists think that evangelicals are too soft. A perfect example of that is if you're an evangelical, you have a lot of fundamentalism in you, but you also have an iPhone and you go to the movies. That's where the fundamentalists probably don't do that. Okay, but that's a fun world. I think that's a very popular part of what's here in the United States. While we're in this camp, it's easiest for me to hit it now because we're following what I'm talking. Charismatic. I have a star in this one. It's a soft star though. Speaking in tongues, casting out demons, laying on hands, Holy Spirit falling on the room, people slain in the spirit. The denomination this comes from is the Pentecostal, but charismatic is the style, right? That's why you could be Catholic, charismatic. You could be me, charismatic. Can show up inside any church. They're open to the supernatural, but it's only their supernatural. That's the sad part. And I kind of loaned that from my own personal experience. So demons are real. The Holy Spirit is real. Spiritual warfare is real. This is why I'm in here, man, because I'm like, with this, I'm like, down, I love the metaphysical. But when I say consciousness or meditation, that's the devil. Okay. I'm not, I'm saying this in jest guys, because I actually sit again alongside with you. What coming from an outsider? This is kind of what I'm picking up on. It's a metaphysics with a bouncer at the door is the easiest way to describe it. So I am their sister in this. I'm in the metaphysical realm, but I like to bring more words outside of that realm. My biggest, if you follow my shows on metaphysics, I 100% want to preach about the fundamental field the rest of my life, the larger consciousness system, AKA God, like I'm trying to bridge science with spirituality, because that's what the world needs. And, you know, another way to understand and see this. And so I don't know, I think most people are chill with me on it, but I do recognize that it's, I don't speak, actually, I want to say this biggest point I want to make my own personal thoughts on watching Christianity change. Again, being in Texas is and knowing what evangelical fundamentalist charismatic looks like. And the women in our thirties and forties and twenties, 10 years ago, we're saying one thing, the shirt said something, you know, we all wear our faith shirts. I'm one of them as well, God, right there. And then I, you know, I travel around the world and I get my own little bubble, and then I come back to it and I'm like, this is like a style. This is like your own little, I'm not going to say Instagram style, but it is, it's its own post modern framing of Jesus. That's my point. I can look at the reverence of the Orthodox Church, the reverence of what Yogananda and my own church has. And then I can see the post modern spin with coffee and a concert puts on Christianity. Neither I'm saying or right or wrong. I'm just saying it's changing. It's, and that's why I'm like, this is the most personal decision you can make because you're living in the coffee culture, the cool song that sounds good. But then when you're like listening to the lyrics like myself, like, well, that doesn't make any sense, whatever, you know, because it still has the heart in it. So this is such a beautifully nuanced conversation. I hope you're vibing with me and I'm not insulting you because that's definitely not, definitely not the point of it all. Okay, let's go back into my straight going down. I think we miss skipped over Christian universal, universalist. This is, didn't know this one existed today, but I know exactly what it is, and I'll explain it, I'll read through and I'll explain it to you. Believes everyone is eventually saved. No eternal hell. Hell may exist as temporary purification, not permanent punishment, connects to origin, which is one of Christians most important early theologians from 185 AD. And he taught that all souls return to God. Just so you know, that guy doesn't don't confuse origin with the Gnostics. He was a little bit after that, but he had a lot of similar thinking. Origin was condemned 300 years after his death by the Emperor Justinian at the Second Council of Constantinople 553 AD. So here again, we have a powerful political power pushing down theology. So I just want to make that obvious. We know what political power can do and politics writes our history. So this guy was pushed down. If God is in all things, why would he permanently discard part of himself? Get some coffee in me and I'm going to explain that one to you. There's another episode I made heavy on ontology, which is what I'm into. Ontology is a branch of philosophy, matter versus mind. And the Bible basically speaks as it's a theist, but it's really panentheist. And all of you jiving with me know that, yes, there's truth to what I'm saying. The Bible has panentheism all throughout. Panentheism is nothing can exist outside of God, outside of the larger consciousness system. Literally, there was no way for it to exist since God is the structure itself. And when he made everything, he wanted to experience, he wanted to experience his creation through his children, through his image. And he shot us out as points of views of consciousness. So why would he discard himself, whether he is his different type of consciousness, not human consciousness in a plant and a bug in us, which are special. I'm not saying we're the same as animals or plants or minerals. We are definitely deemed his creation, whereas all of it's his creation, but we are the example of him himself, whereas plants and animals are quite different, quite separate. Through spiritual evolution, we all go back to God in heaven. And there is hell in heaven. I needed to make this point earlier. Why there is no hell, this is a massive topic in deconstructionism. First off, if you think there's a hell where you're burning, you're actually thinking that matter, your body and your nerves, endings in your finger, to tell you you're in pain exists, which most of us know when you think through this logically, heaven is another dimension, another realm, and it's not made of matter, which is here in the physical realm. This earth is exactly what it is because it's physical. And this also, Christian Universalist, is a massive belief system. I would say most virtual people that believe we're in a virtual simulation, Elon Musk, Nick Bostrom, I believe he's the one that made the, they would say this is what they believe as well, which is the other realms don't have a physical body. You're more of a virtual simulation right now because the body that encases your soul in heaven is made up more so of life, tronic energy, and also another body, which is your thought matrix, your ideational creation. This again, this is where my evangelical friends like, whoa, and I'm like, I know, this is what happens. But anyway, so in order for you to exist in heaven, if you're going through hell, it's not necessarily a physical pain that you experience on a matter body. It's more so ideational thought matrix. I like to believe that Hitler is still in hell, in the heavenly realms, very low vibrational place in heaven, sleep dreaming the deaths he created, experiencing each one firsthand from the point of view of the person that created it. So that's what I mean. God's justice is perfect because it's not really necessarily God's justice. It's just that person's point of view that chose, Hitler chose to do those bad things with knowing that when he goes back to heaven, he's going to experience hell through however God designed it. But I don't believe it's a physical hell necessarily. That's the idea that you're on the spiritual evolution going back to God. Now, I guess the point I should say is, along that evolution, you're losing more and more of your egotistic self, which I would say our desires, and you're losing that and becoming more just the soul, which is the exact reflection of God himself. And what that would look like is if you're, if you're worried about losing your self identity and merging back with God in this scenario, it's like if you learn how to play an instrument or many instruments, but then you got to play with an entire band, and now you're in a symphony or a chorus, it feels like that you don't lose your individuated point of view and your collective awareness of all that point of view had gone through. Even though I believe why we're here on earth, our point of view is limited to just right now, this lifetime, you don't have the prior before you came into this lifetime. All right, esoteric Christians, they read hidden, deeper meaning in scripture beneath the literal surface. The Bible is symbolic and layered. Most people only see the surface. Examples would be Yogananda's interpretations, early Gnostic teachers, and many, many more mad that my AI didn't give me more, but forgive me, this was a lot. They decode scripture rather than just read it. So this is heavy into the understanding that metaphors, symbolism, metaphysical, one of my favorite ones off the top of my head is the firmament and Genesis, that is like such a metaphysical blending of two realms and worlds together, not an actual physical firmament, but like, anyway, I just, that's one of the top of my heads. Esoteric Christian, if I had to say what it represents to me, we know that even people, even evangelical Christians that have had near death experiences come back from heaven saying, Jesus ain't what we thought he is. Jesus isn't so much of this politicized, humanized, organized person, but more so, I don't know, I just, I go back to the ancient esoteric, all religions have this true faith, this true foundational, more metaphysical understanding of God being love versus, there's a rule book and it's pretty dang narrow of how we see him. All right, moving on, Christian revisionist, this is a big one, I got a star here, believes the Bible is fallible, edited by men with political motives, we've discussed this already, but there's a lot of this today that it spans whether you're arguing back in, you know, second and third century or if you're even arguing today. Examples Bart Ehrman argues many books weren't written by who we think. If you believe reincarnation was removed from the Bible, you might be a revisionist. So in 553 AD, Emperor Justinian, the second council of Consonno will condemn to origins teachings on the pre-existence of souls. The Pope did not endorse the changes, he was imprisoned for resisting, while the Bible was literally being altered. I know that's a heavy topic because if you're in the other camps that believe it's, you're in the evangelical camp that the Bible is not infallible, then it's hard to believe this is real, that the Pope was put in jail because he didn't want them to change the Bible and they changed the Bible. But for those that might want to learn that reincarnation was once in there by my beliefs, doesn't have to be everybody's, I believe it was taken out. There's an anti-Paul sentiment that you most likely have heard of, this lives here in the revisionist, it also lives heavily in the deconstructionist camp. Oh, in the Gnostic camps back to the first century. Okay, I didn't know that. Paul's entire authority rests on a vision that no one else can verify, and Jesus warned us in Matthew about people claiming to know him. So this is a really sharp-edged sword. Nietzsche actually called Paul the true founder of Christianity, not Jesus. Now at first you're like, well that's, that makes sense because Paul wrote part of the New Testament. But no, Jesus obviously needs to be the founder, but that's the joke is that, well, I mean, it's a very hard-edged sword, right? You have Paul writing part of the Bible saying, I had this dream, but I'm totally down with the dude having a dream and writing in Scripture. I would say a lot of the Old Testament was written that way. The part that makes it, you worry some, is if Jesus said, I'm warning you though, people are going to come after me and say that I spoke to them and I'm their bro, right? So, yeah, there's that. Yeah, the saw, very interesting to learn. There's an anti-Paul sentiment. All right, we did it. Guys, we did it. We did it. I mean, we talked about all 13, went through them fast. You know, it's hard for me to talk philosophically with you as I'm being led by a board. I do way better just riffing with you, but I still like to think it doesn't matter what kind of person you are. We all came here with the same level, the exact level of awareness and consciousness that you are meant to have. So, if you are the derper that is so happy with the church that you literally just grew up across the street from, that is absolutely amazing and where you're supposed to be. So, you know, because I'm thinking about my philosophical questions, how many of us chose, right? How many of us really have been thinking critically? I actually have to say my evangelical friends, fundamentalist friends, are amazing on this topic. They don't condemn critical thinking or deconstructionalists. They are the first people that love Jesus and love God so much that they don't ever want to condemn your thinking. They want to talk more about it. And it's kind of weird because I guess in a way, that's the funnel, I guess, I didn't discuss about evangelicalness, but if they are to preach the gospel and try to save me from burning in hell or anyone from burning in hell, I'm not saying I'm doing something wrong that I should do that, but they should care and they should push it on you. And that's actually what a lot of deconstructionists are saying now. If you really believed in hell, you would be pushing for people not to go there. And that's why you see so many of them wanting to spread the word. They fervently believe this. So kudos to them. They care about you. It just means you're a different thinker if you aren't there with them. And I'm going to say it. I was talking with my evangelical best friend last night about this and I said that funnel, basically, because I was talking with AI about it and I was talking with him. The funnel is you could burn in hell forever. And if you just choose Jesus, he's the way everything's going to be okay. It funnels for people that don't think a lot to say, absolutely, sign me up. I don't want to be in the bad camp. And the squeeze is the hard and then out squeezes are the critical thinkers. I know that's an overgeneralization, but even my evangelical friend agreed with me and he is a huge open thinker. But yet he's also in that camp. But he said it definitely funnels in those that aren't critical thinking. And it kind of would funnel out those that are coming up. There are tons of paradoxes in the faith systems that they're asking you to do, right? I think a lot of most of us can agree. Some things are just what I have a Mormon friend and he knows that the no drinking tea and coke and stuff is just BS. But he loves being a Mormon and he loves his community. So he loves doing it. Let's see, let's make that show. He drank the punch so much that he loves not drinking the punch if it's caffeinated, right? So I don't know. I think it's that I hope you get my sentiment, which is loving God, knowing God is the most amazing important journey you could be on. It's literally the purpose of life is trying to find him. But back to the joke I said at the top, if Jesus wanted it to be one way, he would have wrote it down exactly. And so I personally believe I think he loves us all. I know he does and I'm sure you all agree. And that's that. It's how much, yeah, how much in this lifetime do we actually know that we want to desire him over all things that are material? Basically, that's the bottom line. And the irony is, is once you choose him over the material things, you kind of are given everything else material as well. And I hope that made sense. Thanks for letting me riff around. These are really hard for me to do when I have something in front of me. I have to stick by and read to you and I can't make eye contact with you. And I can't just come at you with my thoughts. That's where I'm sitting on the fence today as an eight bucket Christian. Stay human, stay free. Bye bye, guys. Quantum bomb.