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Full Show Podcast: 06 August 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Spunk for Business Technology that keeps business
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  Speaker 1: moving news talks.
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  Speaker 2: They'd be good morning, it is six half to five.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: This morning. We will look at the.
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  Speaker 2: Unemployment number Mitch mccannon's stateside for US Jordan Williams from
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  Speaker 2: the Taxpayers Union on how much we're paying to people
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  Speaker 2: who've been charged with criminal offending. Also, we will look
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  Speaker 2: at a domestic violence number that's pretty shocking, to be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you, and it's all to do with paperwork.
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  Speaker 3: It's all ahead.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 3: It is Thursday, the sixth of August. Starting in the
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  Speaker 3: US the Michigan Senate race.
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  Speaker 2: The primaries, the Dems went hard left, with Abdul al sayed,
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  Speaker 2: this is the one where we're talking to you about yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and I just can't.
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  Speaker 1: Say how grateful I am to have earned the votes
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  Speaker 1: that we got.
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  Speaker 4: We took on a machine, and I was supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be able to beat seventy million dollars of outside spending,
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  Speaker 4: our record amount of money you spent in a campaign
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  Speaker 4: against a Democrat in a primary, in any campaign, we're
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  Speaker 4: not supposed to be able to be that and what
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  Speaker 4: we showed is that the power of our money is
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  Speaker 4: greater than the power of their money.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so he's got this far. It was really tight
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  Speaker 2: race actually, and he goes up against Rogers, which is
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  Speaker 2: Trump's men. Will talk about this in a second. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go to the UK and quite an interesting one. He
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  Speaker 2: a chief rabbi has refused to meet a Conservative candidate
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  Speaker 2: with the history of anti semitism. This is Joshua Bonehill Pain.
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  Speaker 2: He went to the slammer for harassing an MP a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago.
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  Speaker 5: But there's a big difference between going back into society
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  Speaker 5: and teaching others possibly about what he did and why
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  Speaker 5: it was wrong, to making a leak, to standing for
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  Speaker 5: public office. I think there's a massive distinction there.
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  Speaker 2: The Tory leader Kimmy bed Knox says she believes in
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  Speaker 2: second chances.
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  Speaker 6: We can't have the people who have previously been radicalized,
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  Speaker 6: who understand what went wrong and are part of the
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  Speaker 6: fight against antisemitism. Now, if we're saying no, no, no,
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  Speaker 6: you're untouchable, then how can we pretend that we believe
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  Speaker 6: in rehabilitation.
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  Speaker 2: Finally, this morning, Ed Miliband sat down with Marco Rubio
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  Speaker 2: Milliban of course used to call Trump eracs on racist and.
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  Speaker 7: Assorted president, and doesn't We're looking forward to our meeting
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  Speaker 7: the Americans. They've got and then sold it all for
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  Speaker 7: Milliban they call him, and Milliwatt they.
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  Speaker 2: Call not because of his support from NAT zero and
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  Speaker 2: for laural trillings they talked about Iran. Milliban says reopening
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  Speaker 2: the straight up moves is essential.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, it.
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  Speaker 1: Is the news you need this morning and the in
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  Speaker 1: depth analysis earlier edition with Ryan Bridge and Spunk for
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  Speaker 1: Business Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 3: News TALKSB Talks B. It is nine minutes alf to five.
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  Speaker 2: I do find that the big brew haha over Christopher
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  Speaker 2: Luxon and his I find it a bit rich in
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  Speaker 2: the plane situation, the Defense Force planes, because all the
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  Speaker 2: media who are out there running the stories have all
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  Speaker 2: been on Defense Force planes at highly discounted rates. And
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  Speaker 2: I know this because I've done it myself many many times.
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  Speaker 2: When you go overseas on a trade mission with a PM,
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  Speaker 2: we used to pay I don't know what it is now,
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  Speaker 2: but we used to pay about five hundred bucks for
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  Speaker 2: the whole trip, so you can go anywhere. We went
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  Speaker 2: to Russia, being to Japan, South America lots of different places,
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  Speaker 2: and you pay the media organization would pay a nominal
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  Speaker 2: fee of about.
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  Speaker 3: Five hundred bucks to get there.
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  Speaker 2: So if there is a problem with a prime minister
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  Speaker 2: using defense force assets at you know, taxpayers expense, surely
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  Speaker 2: there would be a problem with media using defense force
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  Speaker 2: assets at taxpayers expense and going along for the ride. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course there's not, because the plane's going anyway. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you take a delegation of business leaders, a trade delegation,
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  Speaker 2: then there's room for the media at the back, which
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  Speaker 2: is where they always end up, so that you'd be
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  Speaker 2: reasonable about it. And I think people need to be
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  Speaker 2: a bit reasonable about this expense too, just Sinda Adourne
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  Speaker 2: used to do it, John Key used to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Hopkins did it when he was in Clark did it
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  Speaker 2: before Key. I mean, is there much to see here
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  Speaker 2: or are people just going after Luxin because it's Luxon
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  Speaker 2: And you know, he's a bit unpopular personally at present,
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  Speaker 2: although as I say that, he's still the most popular
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  Speaker 2: or at least equal or more popular than Hipkins when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to pervert prime minister. So you know, no
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  Speaker 2: one's really popular, are they, especially at the moment ten
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  Speaker 2: after five, Bridge, don't be hypocrites. You're on news Talks.
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  Speaker 2: There'd be plenty more still to come. We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: the race. And I find the Michigan race in particular
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  Speaker 2: endlessly fascinating. And Jordan Williams and the Taxpayers Union have
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  Speaker 2: gone and found out you know, the guy this is
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  Speaker 2: working for the Ministry of Justice who was on full
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  Speaker 2: pay four or five years pending the outcome of criminal investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Five years on the payroll. I mean, how do you
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  Speaker 2: do that and not notice?
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  Speaker 3: Anyway? It turns out there's more of them.
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  Speaker 1: That's all ahead to be The early edition Full the
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  Speaker 1: EDB five thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: The markets are liking the sound of this ending the
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  Speaker 2: straight of horror moves strangulation at the moment. The stocks
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  Speaker 2: Europe six hundred. This is a basket of European stocks.
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  Speaker 2: They are up. In fact, that've been up eleven percent
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  Speaker 2: so far this year. There's another reason for that. I'll
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  Speaker 2: get to it a second. But pretty much everywhere Wall
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  Speaker 2: Street up, oil down. People are highly excited by the
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  Speaker 2: sound of a could be today, could be tomorrow on
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  Speaker 2: the straight of hor moves. But we have been here
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  Speaker 2: before as well, haven't we. The other thing that's happening
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  Speaker 2: with that with the European stocks eleven percent this year
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of that is to do worth well. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: there is talk that the Strait could open and the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing could be over soon. But Europe is the
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  Speaker 2: anti AI trade at the moment because they are based
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  Speaker 2: on banks and industrials. And when people get a bit
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  Speaker 2: jittery about the AI spin, they go and switch a room.
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  Speaker 3: And where do they go? Europe? Fourteen minutes after five.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you want a protection order against a violent partner,
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  Speaker 2: it'll take you nine days to get one. That was
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  Speaker 2: the average for twenty twenty five, which was slightly better
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  Speaker 2: than twenty twenty four, but down on previous years. Gwenda
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  Speaker 2: Kendrew is a Viva General manager, Can to Be Violent
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  Speaker 2: Support Service. Gwenda, good morning, Good morning. So what is
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  Speaker 2: involved with getting a protection order?
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  Speaker 3: What do you have to do?
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's not as simple as just putting out a
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  Speaker 8: few pieces of paper and saying I don't really like
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  Speaker 8: somebody anymore. There's quite a story that you have to
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  Speaker 8: write quite a bit of proof that you have to
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  Speaker 8: provide our workids can take a number of ours, even
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  Speaker 8: days sometimes and writing a protection order with somebody before
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  Speaker 8: they present it to the court, and then there's a
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  Speaker 8: hope that the court will see the concern and produce
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  Speaker 8: a protection order.
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  Speaker 3: Is the court like? What? What? What takes the court
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  Speaker 3: so long? Do they?
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  Speaker 2: They obviously have to do some due diligence, Like you
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  Speaker 2: can't just say, you know, point at someone in the
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  Speaker 2: crowd and say that person, you know, I want a
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  Speaker 2: protection order and they'll give it. Or is that what happens?
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  Speaker 2: Do they need to go and check criminal history or
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  Speaker 2: reports or anything like that.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, there's some work that they need to do, but
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  Speaker 8: it's the court ordered protection order. So it's done with
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  Speaker 8: some due diligence from their end. We provide with the
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  Speaker 8: client or client provides all the information they can. It's
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  Speaker 8: family violence. It's not just somebody down the street I
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  Speaker 8: don't like. So the work we're doing is specifically around
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  Speaker 8: a relationship that somebody has been a part.
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  Speaker 3: Of and how.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no exactly, So what is the delay?
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  Speaker 3: Then?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think what causes the delay. Is it just
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  Speaker 2: that there are enough people there to do it, or
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  Speaker 2: is it that they're having to do some sort of
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  Speaker 2: due diligence which does.
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  Speaker 3: Just take time.
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  Speaker 9: I know.
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  Speaker 8: We would say that the protection orders can be ordered
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  Speaker 8: reason can be received reasonably quickly, but then they have
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  Speaker 8: to be provided to the respondent, the person who the
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  Speaker 8: order is against, and that needs to be done in
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  Speaker 8: a particular way and systemically. The police need to be
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  Speaker 8: involved in that, and it's not easy for them, with
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  Speaker 8: all the work that they're doing to just pop down
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  Speaker 8: and give this to somebody and hope that they're going
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  Speaker 8: to receive it. Has to be given appropriately. You can't
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  Speaker 8: just drop it in the letterbox and hope that they
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  Speaker 8: get it. There's a handover process that needs to happen
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  Speaker 8: to ensure the person has got the documents and understands
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  Speaker 8: the role that they need to play after receiving a
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  Speaker 8: protection order. In the meantime, the person the applicants who's
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  Speaker 8: applied for the protection order is sitting waiting to hear
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  Speaker 8: that the person knows and that's the whole New pro says.
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  Speaker 8: In connection or non connection with each other, we have
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  Speaker 8: a number of clients who sit for days waiting to
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  Speaker 8: hear Do they know yet that they can't contact me?
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  Speaker 8: Do they know yet that they can't be around here?
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  Speaker 8: And when we add to that, many many children, our concerns.
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  Speaker 8: People are sitting in a state of limbo, not knowing
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  Speaker 8: their safety and their rights and the protection that they
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  Speaker 8: have around them. It is simply a piece of paper,
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  Speaker 8: but it says a whole lot about how they can
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  Speaker 8: live their life safely from then on.
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  Speaker 2: Gwenda, lovely to have you on the show them this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for explaining that to us, Gwenda, Kendrew, Aviva
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  Speaker 2: general Manager. That's Caunterre Violence Support Service time is seventeen
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  Speaker 2: minutes after five year ons. There'd be Jordan Williams and
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  Speaker 3: That keeps is this movie? News Talk said, be.
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  Speaker 2: Five twenty so the SpaceX rocket will apart the upper
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  Speaker 2: stage of a Falcon nine rocket. That this is one
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  Speaker 2: of Elon Musk's has hit the moon. I know, shock, horror, alarm,
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  Speaker 2: but there's no photos of it yet, because you need
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  Speaker 2: a really big telescope to get a look at this thing.
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  Speaker 2: And the observatories in North America are currently analyzing their information.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to find a photo of it, basically so
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  Speaker 2: we can all go wow. It was going pretty fast,
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  Speaker 2: eight seven hundred kilometers an hour, size of a five
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  Speaker 2: story building, about the size of a bus, so quite
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  Speaker 2: tall but thin, weighs four thousand kilos and they reckon
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  Speaker 2: it smashed into the side of it near Einstein's Crater apparently,
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  Speaker 2: which is the other side of the Moon to where
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  Speaker 2: the Apollo missions landed, and over eighteen months has basically
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  Speaker 2: been going around up there. Over eighteen months. The goal
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  Speaker 2: was to get it close to the moon. Well, they've
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  Speaker 2: certainly achieved that, haven't they.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty one after Bryan Bridge, looks like the x.
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  Speaker 2: LOTO present to Russell Harrison was the only one getting
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  Speaker 2: paid by the taxpayer while under investigation. The Taxpayers Union
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  Speaker 2: has revealed that four more employees at the Ministry of
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  Speaker 2: Justice are on leave while facing criminal charges or serious
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  Speaker 2: misconduct investigations. Jordan Williams Taxpayers Union with us this morning,
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  Speaker 2: get a Jordan, Good morning, Ryan. So I mean isn't
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  Speaker 2: there I've seen your thing, and some of them been
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  Speaker 2: there on leave for quite a while, twenty five weeks,
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  Speaker 2: sixteen weeks. But is there not an element of their
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  Speaker 2: innocent until they're proven guilty here?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, of course, But once you're off work for more
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  Speaker 9: than six months, it's pretty clear that you're actually unable
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  Speaker 9: to perform your job. And the question is who should
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  Speaker 9: that burden rest on. Any private sector employer is not
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  Speaker 9: going to tolerate having someone on garden leave fully paid
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  Speaker 9: for more than what sixteen weeks is bad in US,
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  Speaker 9: But to find one that is more than six months is,
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  Speaker 9: as I said, clear wouldn't be tolerated in the private sector.
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  Speaker 9: If you can't do your job, you shouldn't continue to
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  Speaker 9: be paid to do a job. And what we have
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  Speaker 9: here is case in point of a minister who has
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  Speaker 9: clearly lost confidence in the chief executive, in this case
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  Speaker 9: the Secretary of Justice. Remember that the Russell Harrison incident
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  Speaker 9: was hidden from him. It came as a surprise to
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  Speaker 9: the minister. And what happened yesterday was really interesting. Literally
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  Speaker 9: within five minutes of the minister announcing this so called
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  Speaker 9: rapid review of the performance of his own Ministry and
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  Speaker 9: chief Executive. That's when we got the OIA back about
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  Speaker 9: this new information. So this is what has driven this.
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  Speaker 9: But the key problem is ministers are unable to sack
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  Speaker 9: or the high the chief executives to be own departments,
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  Speaker 9: so it all goes through a third party, the Public
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  Speaker 9: Services Commission. And I think what would be really interesting
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  Speaker 9: to find out is, because you know, they've got to
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  Speaker 9: apparently the task of fixing it, how many people at
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  Speaker 9: the Public Service Commission are facing this exact instance of
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  Speaker 9: being paid to work, well sorry, not paid to work
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  Speaker 9: from home, being paid not to work because they're facing
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  Speaker 9: any charges or allegations of very serious misconduct.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it's Do you think it's conspiracy? Who
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  Speaker 2: do you think is incompetence that they actually didn't realize
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  Speaker 2: they no one ever went into Oh, actually, let's do
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  Speaker 2: a tally up of how many are currently being investigated
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  Speaker 2: and how long they've been paid for.
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  Speaker 9: Well, your HR departments, we surely know, even in big departments,
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  Speaker 9: who's facing criminal charges or serious misconduct charges. You know,
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  Speaker 9: suspending people.
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  Speaker 7: Is a pretty big step.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think it's just
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  Speaker 9: the culture within the public service of sort of gliding
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  Speaker 9: on and not really worrying about the dollars and cents
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  Speaker 9: that because taxpayers are floting the bill the bill, even
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  Speaker 9: in a big corporate Can you imagine someone like anyw
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  Speaker 9: Zealand suspending someone since they're facing criminal charges, but just
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  Speaker 9: keeping them on the payroll and forgetting about them.
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  Speaker 2: No, not for five years, certainly not. Jordan Williams, I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you being on the show this morning from the
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  Speaker 2: Taxpayers Union Times twenty four minutes after five. Over in Germany,
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  Speaker 2: we mentioned this a couple of months ago, but there
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  Speaker 2: were the drone, suspicious drones flying around German airports, particularly
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  Speaker 2: German military airports, and everybody was suspected that Russia was
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  Speaker 2: somehow involved or Russian agents were somehow involved. But overnight
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  Speaker 2: there's a drone carrying an explosive device they have found
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  Speaker 2: at a German airport. This is in eastern East Germany, Liipzig,
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  Speaker 2: Leipzig Airport forgive me. And this is generally used for
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  Speaker 2: it's used by Natale allahs used by the German military.
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  Speaker 2: Has military goods transported through the Ukraine's Antonov Airlines is
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  Speaker 2: based out of here, crucially carry most of the country's
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  Speaker 2: aerial cargo. So a whole lot of reasons why I
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  Speaker 2: don't know Putin would want to be targeting it. Of
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  Speaker 2: course they don't know at this point. But it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just the one explosive device that they found at this
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  Speaker 2: German airport last night. There was a second unidentified object
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  Speaker 2: that actually hit a cargo aircraft near the airport, So
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  Speaker 2: they are looking into that this morning twenty five after five,
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  Speaker 2: and will be in the UK with Gavin Gray after
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  Speaker 2: News at five point thirty News Talks.
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  Speaker 3: There'd be twenty seven minutes half to five. Couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: On the unemployment number that came out yesterday, it looks
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  Speaker 2: worse than actually it is because a bunch of people
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  Speaker 2: decided they would start looking for work in the second
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  Speaker 2: quarter than the one before it. So there are a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of reasons for this happening, but basically.
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  Speaker 3: You don't really know. You don't know what you don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's anyone's guess.
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  Speaker 2: It could be that people go, oh, the job market
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  Speaker 2: is on the up, so it's actually worth me trying
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  Speaker 2: to look for work now, which would be a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: But also the neat rate is better than it was
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  Speaker 2: in March. There are a couple of reasons, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of good takeaways from yesterday's number. The neat rate better
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  Speaker 2: than it was in the March quarter. That's young people,
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  Speaker 2: so ages fifteen to twenty four, who are not in employment,
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  Speaker 2: not in education, or not in training, so you want
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  Speaker 2: fewer of them. It was fourteen point four percent, it's
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  Speaker 2: now thirteen point eight percent. Sure, it's definitely room for improvement,
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  Speaker 2: but there is a slight improvement. Young people who couldn't
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  Speaker 2: find work have gone into education to up skill, which
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  Speaker 2: is exactly what you want them to do at a
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  Speaker 2: time like this. The number is still higher than you want,
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  Speaker 2: of course, they both are actually on the whole, but
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  Speaker 2: with context, not as bad as they look at first glance,
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  Speaker 2: and with some promising signs under the hood. And every
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  Speaker 2: economist and his dog right now will tell you don't
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  Speaker 2: let this put you off. Unemployment is the lagging indicator,
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  Speaker 2: so it's the last one that will turn in an
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  Speaker 2: economic turnaround. And gee, this thing's been a titanic of
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  Speaker 2: a turnaround job. But there are plenty of reasons to
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  Speaker 2: be optimistic despite the headline number that came out yesterday
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine, after five Ryan BRIDGEB very quickly. The guy
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  Speaker 2: who has taken out the Michigan Senate primary for the Dems.
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  Speaker 2: We spoke about him yesterday. Abdul Alsayed, pro Palestinian Oxford
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  Speaker 2: graduate doctor, wants to get rid of ice the Immigration Agency,
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  Speaker 2: wants Wealth Texas for billionaires, and wants to terminate all
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  Speaker 2: US military aids to Israel. So controversial you can imagine
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  Speaker 2: in the US, but a victory for him. Nonetheless, can
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: he take on Rogers Trump Sky We're in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, It's twenty four minutes away from six year
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• 18:12
  Speaker 2: we will go look at the Michigan race. Also, we
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: will look at the unemployment number. Just before top of
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the hour, I'll tell you what lots of feedback coming in.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: We spoke to Jordan Williams from the Taxpayers Union about
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: how many bureaucrats are at home on full pay while
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: they're being investigated either serious misconduct or they're accused of
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: doing something criminal, so they're off work but still getting paid.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And Jordan said, oh, well, you know, I think probably
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: because they don't know these public servants don't know the
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  Speaker 2: value of a dollar if this was a private business,
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  Speaker 2: that they would probably long ago have been just given
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  Speaker 2: the sack. This is from a listener this morning Morning, Ryan.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Normally I love Jordan Williams, but as a former public servant,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I take umbrage at his And you can tell they're
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a former public servant because public servants like to take umbrage.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I take umbrage at his description of public servants in
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: this situation. What you'll probably find is that the Justice
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: HR team saw this as a Privacy Act issue, so
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: he was talking about the OAA. So your OAA and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: say how many staff right now have been charged with
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the criminal offense and are still getting paid by the taxpayer,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: give me that information. I'm a Jordan on that one.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I have to say, dear listener, I take umbrage with
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: your taking umbrage because you don't have to name them.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: You can give OAA information without identifying the individual and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: just say this is how many and this is how
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: much you know, well, we're paying these guys to sit
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: at home twenty two away from six.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Our reporters Cullum and Edan Callum. Good morning. All right,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: so Otigo flood protection. What's going on here?
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: A bit of a project ongoing in South Otago, A
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  Speaker 10: two million dollar flood protection upgrade at the mouth of
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  Speaker 10: South Otigo's poor Or River. It's on track to nearly
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: be complete. The work will strengthen the river training wall
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  Speaker 10: there where the river meets the Coal branch of the
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  Speaker 10: Kluther River. It'll improve its ability to cope with a
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  Speaker 10: future flooding and shifting river flows. These structures run were
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  Speaker 10: damaged in previous floods and also with your ongoing coastal erosion.
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: The Regional Council says the biggest challenge for this job
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: has been working around the river, sea tides and weather.
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: This project started last November and is due to be
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: completed by October.
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  Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather.
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: I've got a frosty start here, so what minus three
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: at the airport, but a fine toned and daylight winds
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  Speaker 10: to high nine.
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  Speaker 2: Nice one, Thank you clears and christ it this morning clear,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Good morning, sear what happened with the amalgamation decision.
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: In the end, yeah, this was interesting. By the skin
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: of its teeth. Christ Church councilors ended up voting to
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: go it alone for this local government reform, against what
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: we heard yesterday was the mayor's preference. In the end
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: they decided they'll do the standalone unitary authority rather than
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: in of those mergers with Selwyn and or why macad Eddie.
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: It was nine votes to eight. Counselor Melanie Cocher was
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: rather vocal on it. She says taking in other regions
• 21:10
  Speaker 11: would be like a hostile takeover. She said it was
• 21:13
  Speaker 11: a kin to forcing a dead rat down the throats
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: of near neighbors and would only prove to the public
• 21:18
  Speaker 11: that politicians of christ Church simply do not listen. Meyrifil
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: Major was very upset with the decision and disappointed. He
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: said he disagreed and that expanding would have reflected the
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: way the communities already interact. He says Canterbury would have
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: both urban and rural voices working together rather than competing,
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: and that would be for the greater good.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: How'd your weather very frosty.
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: And cold this morning here as well? Should clear to
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: find some early morning cloud about Banks Peninsula. Lightwinds and
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: the high should be ten nice.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: One clear you enjoy, Thank you, but nippy Max and Wellington.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Morning Max, Good morning wildlife. How's it doing on the peninsula.
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: Yeah, good news on the conservation front. Native birds doing
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: very well, indeed on the Mirror Maae Peninsula after predators
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: like rats, weasels, et cetera were removed a few years ago.
• 22:04
  Speaker 12: Possums went about twenty years ago. Overall, apparently, a native
• 22:08
  Speaker 12: species have increased by one hundred percent in just the
• 22:10
  Speaker 12: past couple of years. Fantails jumping four hundred and twenty percent,
• 22:14
  Speaker 12: gray warbler two hundred and fifty. Kingfisher tui weta keda
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: do also thriving. Introduced species like blackbirds and sparrows are declining.
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: Apparently these are conservation numbers not seen since the late
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: eighteen hundreds in terms of native species thriving.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's great. How's your weather? Are you nippy down there?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Ah?
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: Yes, and more so further north. The city is not
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: that bad mainly fine today is the forecast, and those
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: very biting southerly's dying out at high of eleven.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Max, let's got to Neibor in
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  Speaker 2: Auckland nav Ratings. Ribbed up Summit or Ribbed Summit is
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  Speaker 2: in Auckland.
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: Yes, Auckland today seven thirty starts at seven thirty today
• 22:54
  Speaker 13: running through till seven PAMs. So it's got a theme,
• 22:57
  Speaker 13: it's engineering change and it's all happening the Viaduct Events Center.
• 23:01
  Speaker 13: So what's going to be happening is that there will
• 23:03
  Speaker 13: be a smakest board of experts, leaders, innovators. Apparently they
• 23:06
  Speaker 13: will be discussing some of New Zealand's most important questions.
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: Uh REVD founder, that's Rochelle Moffatt. She says, Look, it's
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: easy to question the current state of the world as
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: a collection of chaos and confused arguments, but she says
• 23:19
  Speaker 13: now now is the time to confront what's coming and
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: to find a way to move forward. So that's what
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: they'll be chit chatting about.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: That's very vague.
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: I was trying to get. That's exactly what I thought.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I thought, Will I be able to every that's every
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: conference ever I had to talk about the future, and
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: we're here to talk about you know, the implications for
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: our industries.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: What does that?
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: What does that mean? That's right, finding frosty a high
• 23:47
  Speaker 13: releve degrees here.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Did you have some frost on your window this morning?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 23:51
  Speaker 14: No?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Well, because no, I don't park ou I park outside
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: because I'm poor?
• 23:57
  Speaker 13: Did you do what did you do to defrost.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: My water bottle? Out?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And defrosted it with my water bottle and then drove
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It was probably quite dangerous the way that I was driving. No,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: You've got no choice, and then eventually it mounts itself.
• 24:10
  Speaker 13: But Mike will not be happy when he hears you
• 24:12
  Speaker 13: say that, when you say that you were trying to defrost,
• 24:15
  Speaker 13: and he'll say.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Do we really care what he thinks?
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: No?
• 24:17
  Speaker 13: True, He'll go by garage, garage, garage, your poor, poverty
• 24:22
  Speaker 13: stricken broadcaster must go.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Now seen eighteen away from six News talks, he'd be
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  Speaker 2: This is a key state, this is the senatorial race,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: and he's up against Trump's man Rogers. Yeah, it's going
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to be really interesting in November.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Ryan.
• 25:55
  Speaker 15: We've seen something quite interesting happen in US politics at
• 25:58
  Speaker 15: the moment. That is, more and more candidates less sympathetic
• 26:02
  Speaker 15: to Israel are getting elected or selected for their party's nominations.
• 26:06
  Speaker 15: And the latest example is the one you mentioned, the
• 26:08
  Speaker 15: former public health official, doctor Abdul Asaid, who believes that
• 26:12
  Speaker 15: the US should end a military funding to Israel. That's
• 26:15
  Speaker 15: viewed as quite a hardline position here in the US.
• 26:18
  Speaker 15: Last night, he defeated Congresswoman Hailey Stevens for the Democratic
• 26:22
  Speaker 15: Senate nomination, and Hailey Stevens had actually received thirty million
• 26:26
  Speaker 15: dollars from the American Israel lobby. So it's just one
• 26:29
  Speaker 15: example of the shift to the left, or they call
• 26:31
  Speaker 15: it the progressive shift.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It also includes.
• 26:34
  Speaker 15: Mayazura Mumdani here in New York. That was probably the
• 26:36
  Speaker 15: first big example. We've seen a couple since then.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Trump's talking about another deal in Iran? Are we going
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: to believe it this time? Anything to suggest we should.
• 26:44
  Speaker 15: While he's been talking it up overnight on Air Force One,
• 26:47
  Speaker 15: he said a deal could happen tomorrow or the next day.
• 26:49
  Speaker 15: A lot of progress has been made. It's almost two
• 26:51
  Speaker 15: o'clock in the afternoon here in the East Coast and
• 26:54
  Speaker 15: we've heard no deal. Of course, it's almost hard to
• 26:57
  Speaker 15: keep up with really this back and forth. Earlier in
• 26:59
  Speaker 15: the week, Donald Trump said that an attack had been
• 27:01
  Speaker 15: planned that would have been the biggest since World War Two,
• 27:05
  Speaker 15: but the US wanted to give diplomacy another chance. So
• 27:08
  Speaker 15: apparently this is diplomacy happening. We'll have to wait and
• 27:10
  Speaker 15: see if a deal comes out in the next couple
• 27:12
  Speaker 15: of hours.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: On the Straight Uporle moves.
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  Speaker 2: Mitch Mecano US corresponding, good to you on the show
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: has always mate. It is twelve minutes away from six
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: LAS talk unemployment. Job markets taken another hit. Remember this
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: is backwards looking.
• 27:24
  Speaker 14: Global uncertainty and an oil price shocks or many employers
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: put off intentions to hire new workers or create jobs,
• 27:32
  Speaker 14: and that's had a real impact on New Zealanders looking
• 27:35
  Speaker 14: for work.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So number is five point six percent, highest in eleven years.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: At Chris Small ABC Business Sales co with me this morning, Chris, good.
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  Speaker 7: Morning, good morning, right heter, very.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Good, thank you. Tough out. Therefore a lot of people
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: who are looking for work.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Although there are now more people who are looking for work,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: which could be a good thing or a bad thing.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: We're not entirely sure.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, look, it's interesting I think, you know, listening to
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: all the comments around this number, I think one thing
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: that PEPs hasn't been mentioning we've seen live on the
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: ground is the involvement of AI and what that's doing
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: to sort of white collar ods. We've seen a lot
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: of business owners take on that AI, whether it be
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: claud or check GBT and sort of starting to fill
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: a bit of a void for some of their roles
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: and really not encouraging them to go out and high
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: So I think that's that's something that needs to be
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: bored into the conversation when you think about this number.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that because Silicon Valley, those guys
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: have said, oh yeah, we're worried about the great job
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: wipe out. But then in the last few months I've said, now,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: we think, actually, on balance, this will create more jobs.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: You're saying in New Zealand, you're you're hearing and seeing
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that AI is coming.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: Absolutely so. The aid call AI consultants are relentless and around
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: either Like I'm a business owner with the ninety staff.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: I'll be getting bombard un less twice or three times
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: a week by someone promising me a consultancy where they
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: can reduce my staff by three or four people if
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: I bring them in and they've put this new system in.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: And I think on the ground, if you talk to
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: any professional services fems around the amount of graduates they're
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: taken on. I know for a fact some of the
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: top four have reduced that number by up to fifty
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: percent because those types of roles you think about, these
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: sort of white collar, low end grunt roles we'd call them,
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: we're just if you go through lots of volumes of
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: work that actually can be replaced by AI. So those
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: sorts of roles wouldn't say are redundant, but there's certainly
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: less of them, and that's contributing to the figure. If
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: you look at those unemployment numbers, South Island's only three
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: point seven percent largely a world based economy, while six
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: percent is coming out of the north part of where
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: you've got the big urban centers like Rollington and all
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: clumb So I certainly see it as more of a
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: white collar number rather than a overall MW Zealand number.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Fascinating.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And so if you've got kids who are going to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: union and want to become lawyers.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Absolutely think about it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, held on, Ryan, Hey what about those you said
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that there's people contacting you and saying, oh, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: we can have you with with an AI consultant. Have
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you ever taken them up on their offer? Have you
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: sort of investigated further?
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah? To be honest in that, Hauens, We've fully integrated AI,
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: and what I would say is we haven't made off
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: any staff. It's given us more productivity, more capability. But
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: what I've also as I haven't hired any new staff,
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: which may I may well have done a normal part
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: of normal part of business when you're growing. I've you
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: know what AI systems is great, it's it's more production.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: I don't have to hire anyone else. So I think,
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: to my point before, it's stopping people hiring new people,
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: and potentially down the track, you know, it may well
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: be a sort of as AI evolves and becomes better,
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: you may well be in a position that you can
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: reduce that sort of lower end of sort of white
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: collar workers they do that grunt work.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Fascinating. Chris Small ABC Business Stales C good TV on
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  Speaker 2: the show. This morning, it is nine to six News Talk, said.
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  Speaker 1: Big Bryan Bridge on early edition with Spunk for business
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  Speaker 1: technology that keeps business moving. News Talks.
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  Speaker 9: It be.
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  Speaker 3: News Talks EB.
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  Speaker 2: It is six minutes away from six and Mike has
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: just walked into the studio.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Good morning, Mike morning. Did you steal my thermis?
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: No?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Are you sure? Yes? What sort of what color is it?
• 31:22
  Speaker 16: But no, it doesn't matter.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: When did it go missing? Yesterday?
• 31:26
  Speaker 16: So this morning? Well I discovered it this morning. It's
• 31:28
  Speaker 16: an interesting story. It's not that interesting. It's moderately interesting.
• 31:30
  Speaker 16: I knew at the time. So the boss buys me
• 31:32
  Speaker 16: one because the hot tap broke and the hot tat broke,
• 31:36
  Speaker 16: and so the boss supplies me with the thermis, so
• 31:38
  Speaker 16: I've got permanent hot water. So I thought it'd be
• 31:41
  Speaker 16: interesting to see how long this lasts, because if I
• 31:44
  Speaker 16: leave it in the studio here or I put it
• 31:46
  Speaker 16: on my desk, someone eventually is going to Necker.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Where did you leave it? Well, I either left it
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: here or.
• 31:50
  Speaker 16: I left it on my desk. There's only two places
• 31:52
  Speaker 16: that is. It's neither of those places now. So the
• 31:54
  Speaker 16: test was how long before it got stolen?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Despite you're jumping to theft. What if somebody has kindly
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: taken it out of the studio because it was you
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: have taken it probably to this kitchen, checked it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: The dishwashers checked it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I did wonder why you were wondering over there this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 32:14
  Speaker 16: People label on it, label on it, do not touch
• 32:17
  Speaker 16: my coskins them.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: It doesn't. It does say, oh, you've embarrassed yourself. Well
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't put it on, and it's not even yours.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: You didn't pay for.
• 32:24
  Speaker 16: It, No, exactly precisely. So the funny thing is the
• 32:28
  Speaker 16: test was not my upset, because there is no upset.
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: I couldn't give the monkeys. But the test was in
• 32:33
  Speaker 16: the work environment. How long does it take before people
• 32:37
  Speaker 16: mix stuff? And it's taken about a year to be fair. Okay,
• 32:40
  Speaker 16: I don't know what that means. We're all well, we're
• 32:42
  Speaker 16: hardly speaking, we're honest.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: But you'll be able to track where it went by
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: looking at the cameras.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going down. I'm going down the cameras.
• 32:50
  Speaker 16: Do you remember that we had an old boss, but
• 32:53
  Speaker 16: probably before your time in fact, but the but the
• 32:56
  Speaker 16: mess got so bad in the kitchen he's threatened and
• 32:59
  Speaker 16: this was on my advice. I said, get cameras in
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: and name people anyway, so he he almost he put
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: the email out. He said, unless things improve, I'm putting
• 33:09
  Speaker 16: cameras in. He took a Paul Goldsmith approach to it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: You know, there are some filthy people around.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: There's no question, as news Talk said, b is in particular.
• 33:18
  Speaker 16: They need as they as we celebrate our one hundredth Yeah,
• 33:21
  Speaker 16: one of the one hundred years of one hundred years.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's the point.
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: I mean, you know, what are the issues we can
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: look forward to in the next one hundred years. One
• 33:28
  Speaker 16: of my great hopes is we improve our act in
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  Speaker 16: the hygiene department.
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  Speaker 3: I know it is.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, and of course you think what we
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  Speaker 2: could use, what we could get for here is is
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  Speaker 2: one of those robot back and clean as I was
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  Speaker 2: telling you about the other day.
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  Speaker 16: You seem sold on it. I'm not against it.
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  Speaker 3: And have you looked into it yet?
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  Speaker 16: I've not looked into it because my equipment is so good,
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  Speaker 16: superior exactly that I don't know that our necessarily needs it.
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  Speaker 16: But when it fails and I am in the market,
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  Speaker 16: this is I will be going in. So I will
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  Speaker 16: never go into an EV, right, I'm never going to
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  Speaker 16: buy an EV, but I'm not against getting into the
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  Speaker 16: world with the robot.
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  Speaker 3: You're also in the market for a new Thermist now.
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  Speaker 16: Very much in the market for a new them.
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  Speaker 3: We look forward to that. I'm open to sponsorship.
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  Speaker 2: Actually that eventually continues.
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