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Jaguars Happy Hour: August 5 - Hour 1 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Hey,
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Speaker 1: now that guy who took gold in the one Leader
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Speaker 1: Beer Chug j P. It was a runaway as well,
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Speaker 1: and welcome in its Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday afternoon.
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Speaker 1: My name is j. P. Shadrick and we have a
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Speaker 1: busy program ahead. We will review the last week of
0:31
Speaker 1: training camp. A lot going on for the Jaguars this week,
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Speaker 1: the pads went on. We'll hear from Urban Meyer coming up,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence Reverbend talking about the play of a young
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Speaker 1: tackle who has really stood out in individual one on
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Speaker 1: one pass rush drills. We'll get to that. Judy Batisa,
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Speaker 1: NFL Media, we caught up earlier this week on the
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Speaker 1: practice field. We'll hear from Judy at four fifteen today
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Speaker 1: and get our thoughts on the state of the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: these days and so league matters including vaccination rates and
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Speaker 1: the like. And Jaguars analyst Jeff Lagman will join us
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Speaker 1: at four thirty today. Then at five o'clock it's another
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Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Radio Network.
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Speaker 1: That'll come up. We'll here from Logs then as well.
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Speaker 1: Glad you're with us today. The Jaguars were off on
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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon or Thursday morning as well. Very light work
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Speaker 1: if any here at the facility today. Nothing on the
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Speaker 1: field for the Jaguars though. Wednesday though, was the second
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Speaker 1: day in pads and it was a winner loser session
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. A lot of one on one work
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Speaker 1: in special teams on the defensive side, running backs, linebackers
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Speaker 1: going against each other, and urban Meyer right there in
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Speaker 1: the middle of it each time scoring it and keeping
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Speaker 1: track of who's winning, giving instant analysis of who won
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Speaker 1: every single rep. It was announced over the speaker system
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Speaker 1: on the practice fields the Dream Finders Homes Practice Complex. Uh,
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Speaker 1: quite a sight to see. The intensity ramped up a
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Speaker 1: little more yesterday. I think that was probably the most
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Speaker 1: intense of the days so far because of that head
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Speaker 1: to head competition among players when it comes down to
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Speaker 1: scoring it though for urban Meyer the record matters to
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Speaker 1: the head coach. But we're gonna have to make a decision.
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Speaker 1: A big roster's gonna go to a smaller roster, and
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Speaker 1: I just I think to be fair to players, you know,
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Speaker 1: I just we all have so much respect for that.
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Speaker 1: This is a way guys make a living and I
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Speaker 1: don't believe in subjectivity. I believe in what's your record.
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Speaker 1: Every man's got a record. What is it? You know
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Speaker 1: what you are? What your record are? If you lose
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Speaker 1: a lot, but you you know, I have a lot
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Speaker 1: of potential. That's not real good if you it's just
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Speaker 1: over my course of my career. I just the Anine Blacks. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, I can give you an example after example
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Speaker 1: that maybe there was a little slow, but they just
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Speaker 1: never lose. So I try to create those and as
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Speaker 1: many safe and you know, there's one way of doing that,
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Speaker 1: scrimmage forever. You can't do that, but you can create
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Speaker 1: scenarios where it's one on one and and then everybody's
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Speaker 1: got a score. What's your what's your record? And Urban
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Speaker 1: also said a little later that that score will go
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Speaker 1: into the process of cutting down the rosters at the end.
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Speaker 1: It's not the only thing that matters. Of course, a
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Speaker 1: lot of those things that go into who is on
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Speaker 1: and off the roster, who makes the cut line and
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Speaker 1: all that, but it is a piece of the puzzle
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Speaker 1: and they're they're keeping track on every single thing on
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Speaker 1: that practice field for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Well Hill from
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer coming up in just a little bit as well.
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had some interceptions early on Monday, that was
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Speaker 1: the first competitive day, still the final day without pads
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Speaker 1: for the Jags. Back on Monday, he rallied a bit
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Speaker 1: in the second half of practice too to finish strong,
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Speaker 1: which is a great sign. Then came back out the
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Speaker 1: next day the first day in full pads and and
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Speaker 1: worked pretty well. It is a process though for the
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Speaker 1: number one overall pick to learn this new offense. You
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Speaker 1: hasn't really had to learn a new one in a while.
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Speaker 1: Always been at Clipse in the last three years, so
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Speaker 1: the first time around in this offense. There now six
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Speaker 1: to seven installations into this offense. And we'll hear from
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Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil coming up in just a moment on the
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Speaker 1: retention for Trevor Lawrence, but the adjustment for Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and learning that offense it continues to
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Speaker 1: be a challenge for him. I'm still in that process
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Speaker 1: a lot further than I was in the spring. So
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Speaker 1: I feel confident in what I know, but there's just
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Speaker 1: so many little details that I mean, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you ever can say I know I know at all.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're always learning, and I definitely still have
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Speaker 1: some more to learn and different situations I gotta get
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Speaker 1: used to like we did two minutes today and I'm
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Speaker 1: feeling more comfortable with that, but still trying to make
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Speaker 1: that like clockwork, second nature is just something you gotta work.
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Speaker 1: We mentioned Darryl Bevil, the offensive coordinator for the Jags,
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Speaker 1: earlier this week, basically said that they saw some signs
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Speaker 1: of maybe some overload a little bit for Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 1: Alignments were off on the offense, some small things. It's
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Speaker 1: a work in progress, according to the offensive coordinator. You know,
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Speaker 1: today was the sixth install that we've been through. I
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Speaker 1: kind of thought of piled up on him a little
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Speaker 1: bit today. Um, the first five days, I thought there
5:15
Speaker 1: was some really good recall. Today I could see some
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Speaker 1: you know, misalignments and those kind of things which you
5:19
Speaker 1: would expect at this point for Trevor. Um, it's just
5:24
Speaker 1: every day is a learning process, and you know, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on him right now, and there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be another one tonight, another one the next day,
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Speaker 1: and then once we once we end him, it'll start
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Speaker 1: to slow down. We'll go back review, we'll clean some
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Speaker 1: things up. But each and every day he's in there
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Speaker 1: working hard, watching the tape um and trying to improve
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Speaker 1: as he comes back out for the next day. Even
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Speaker 1: on a day maybe that's not as strong for Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: say back on Monday, you know, when he had the
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Speaker 1: three interception day that was widely reported and all that.
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Speaker 1: There's always it feels like two three, four throws in
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Speaker 1: a practice where he reminds you if you forgot for
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Speaker 1: some reason why he was the number one overall pick
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Speaker 1: in the draft. Uh, he can make throws at nobody else,
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Speaker 1: at least at this moment on that practice field. Can
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Speaker 1: We haven't seen it around here really maybe ever, if
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Speaker 1: not in a long long time. Still a long way
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Speaker 1: to go for Trevor Lawrence to get the master of
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Speaker 1: the offense and and get much more comfortable in doing
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Speaker 1: it on a day to day basis. But so far,
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Speaker 1: so good. The process continues for him. But like I said,
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Speaker 1: there are moments that you say, Okay, this is the guy,
6:32
Speaker 1: this is why he is who he is. He can
6:35
Speaker 1: he can flash it in a moment's notice, and he
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Speaker 1: has the weapons around him to help out in that case,
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Speaker 1: including tenth year receiver Marvin Jones Jr. We caught up
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Speaker 1: with Jones after practice earlier this week. It's his tenth
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Speaker 1: NFL training camp. That's a long time. He is the
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Speaker 1: veteran in this Jaguars locker room, and I asked him,
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Speaker 1: how is his preparation different now in year ten than
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Speaker 1: it was back in year one, two or three. I
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Speaker 1: think it's just the preparation, um, you know. I I
7:05
Speaker 1: have a formula that I do, UM, you know every
7:07
Speaker 1: offseason in UM, every camp and during the season that
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Speaker 1: that works. UM. And it's UM. And I still feel
7:14
Speaker 1: like I still feel like year one when I do that,
7:17
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If not, it takes me
7:18
Speaker 1: a little while to warm up. But you guys wouldn't
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Speaker 1: see it, you know, but I feel it. But I
7:23
Speaker 1: think it's just just knowing my body, UM, you know.
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Speaker 1: And and a lot of times too, like knowing how
7:28
Speaker 1: to run and certain you know, certain routes you don't
7:30
Speaker 1: have to run full speed. You you just you're sitting
7:32
Speaker 1: in the window, you're doing that. And UM, if if
7:35
Speaker 1: you do that, you know, UM, repetition, it's you know,
7:39
Speaker 1: it's it's like it's like second nature. So um, so far,
7:42
Speaker 1: so good. Marvin Jones is has been so far a
7:45
Speaker 1: great addition for this Jaguars wide receiver room. Of course,
7:48
Speaker 1: tenure veteran has done it at a high level really
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years as well. You're eight and
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Speaker 1: you're nine in the league for him up in Detroit.
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Speaker 1: Some solid numbers there. But he has that personality you
7:59
Speaker 1: just heard there that is great for that room. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of young guys in that room. D J.
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Speaker 1: Chark is still very young though he's in his fourth
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Speaker 1: NFL season and and Marvin Jones has gone through that
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Speaker 1: process before of leaving your rookie contract and trying to
8:14
Speaker 1: fight for a second one in the NFL or a
8:16
Speaker 1: third one in his case. And so he's a great
8:20
Speaker 1: resource for a guy like DJ Chart too. Maybe calm
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Speaker 1: his nerves, do you know, get you know, get in
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Speaker 1: his head of hey, just go play or we can
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Speaker 1: help you out with this. And then at the end,
8:30
Speaker 1: as he said in his press conference the other day,
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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones said, he just followed my coat tails and
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Speaker 1: we'll we'll get everybody paid here, which is really what
8:38
Speaker 1: it's all about when it comes to professional football and
8:40
Speaker 1: Labisco Janald is the same thing. A second year player
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Speaker 1: who can look up to the way that Marvin Jones
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Speaker 1: has kept his body over the last nine years going
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Speaker 1: on now number ten in the National Football League, a
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Speaker 1: good example for this wide receiver room. And and he's
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Speaker 1: still making plays obviously in trading camp too, that's part
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Speaker 1: of it. He's getting open, he's making a catcher two
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Speaker 1: a day. That the same thing from Trevor Lawrence that
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Speaker 1: we said a moment ago. There's a couple of plays,
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Speaker 1: a couple of throws from him each day. There's a
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Speaker 1: couple of catches, it feels like from Marvin Jones each
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Speaker 1: day in practice as well. That's a great, great sign
9:15
Speaker 1: for this Jaguars offense. Let's flip it around a defense. Now,
9:17
Speaker 1: what will this defense look like four three three four, Well,
9:21
Speaker 1: it's going to be all the above. For defensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: Joe Cullen, this scheme four three three four will be
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Speaker 1: multiple in our scheme and we can have four man
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Speaker 1: fronts and then basically we can have three man fronts,
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Speaker 1: five man fronts with five down. So I think with
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Speaker 1: the guys that we have up front and the competition,
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Speaker 1: we'll have different package groupings that you won't know who's coming,
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Speaker 1: who's blitzing, what personnel grouping we're in. We'll have all
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Speaker 1: dbs and then five guys up front, so I think
9:49
Speaker 1: we'll be able to once everything settled, really really hone
9:52
Speaker 1: in on different packages. Excited to hear from Jeff Lagman
9:55
Speaker 1: coming up about four thirty, will get his thoughts on
9:58
Speaker 1: what the defense has looked like. He's been watching practice
10:00
Speaker 1: tape every day and see what kind of different ideas
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Speaker 1: Joe Colin might have in mind. That's that's an exciting
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Speaker 1: development to see, Well, you don't you just might not
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Speaker 1: know who's coming on a certain play. The different formation options.
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Speaker 1: There's so many guys that could change positions and move around.
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Speaker 1: And Josh s Allen can go out and coverage. Now,
10:20
Speaker 1: he could stand up, he could put you know, go
10:23
Speaker 1: down on a three point stance. He can do all
10:25
Speaker 1: that same thing for Caleb and Chason Miles. Jack has
10:29
Speaker 1: been working inside mainly. They can move him outside. They
10:32
Speaker 1: That's what Joe Colin said earlier this week. So there
10:35
Speaker 1: are a lot of opportunities for this Jaguars defense to
10:39
Speaker 1: outwit some offenses in the NFL this year. A big
10:42
Speaker 1: piece of that group though, of course, is defensive end
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Speaker 1: in linebacker Josh Allen. It is a big year for
10:48
Speaker 1: Alan coming off that knee injury of a season ago.
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Speaker 1: He looks in incredible shape so far in training camp
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Speaker 1: three or four package, you'll be upstanding and moving around
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Speaker 1: a bit. And the third year Row is fired up
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Speaker 1: for the possibilities on the outside back towards where I
11:04
Speaker 1: can just move around and I can like disguise and
11:07
Speaker 1: I can you know, saying, get back to the slide.
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Speaker 1: Like I feel like defense is all about swagger, and
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Speaker 1: I feel like when you're moving around and you're stimming,
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Speaker 1: you don't know what that person gonna do. That's always
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Speaker 1: a good you know what I'm saying to me, Like
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Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, this dude don't know what I'm
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Speaker 1: about to do, but I'm about to kill him regardless.
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Speaker 1: So like that's that's my mindset. And I'm going back
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Speaker 1: to that. And we just opening up the game book
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Speaker 1: now and and it's gonna be a fun year for
11:32
Speaker 1: all of us now on It's for me, but everybody else.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What Trevor Lawrence is to
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars offense, at least early in training camp is
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Speaker 1: what Josh Allen is for the Jaguars defense. He is
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Speaker 1: the guy. He is the man. Obviously we've known that,
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Speaker 1: but he's got to go out there and prove it again.
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Speaker 1: After missing eight games or so last season with that
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Speaker 1: knee issue, that's no longer an issue for him. As
11:55
Speaker 1: we said, he's he looks in a better shape. I
11:57
Speaker 1: think that he was even going into that last year
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Speaker 1: and he is excited at too. Have so many other
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Speaker 1: options on this defense for him to go out and
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Speaker 1: make plays or open it up for guys along the
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Speaker 1: defensive line, the linebackers, all the rest of those guys
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Speaker 1: can make place too. If you've gotta double Josh Allen,
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Speaker 1: then somebody else will be able to run free. Maybe
12:19
Speaker 1: that guy running free is Miles Jack, the Jaguars inside
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Speaker 1: linebacker working inside, according to Joe Cullen this week, the
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, but he could see some time outside in
12:29
Speaker 1: this scheme as well. We heard from assistant head coach
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Speaker 1: and inside linebackers coach Charlie Strong he knows Miles Jack
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Speaker 1: can handle all that moving around. Miles is just and
12:39
Speaker 1: you look at him and he can do a lot
12:40
Speaker 1: of different things for you. You know he can. He's
12:43
Speaker 1: he's good enough where he can you get him in
12:44
Speaker 1: a coverage where he can cover the running backs and
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Speaker 1: cover the tight ends, and then he's physical enough when
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Speaker 1: they run the football he can go hit the ball
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Speaker 1: and go run down guys. But you know the thing
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Speaker 1: about Miles is he he knows that he's got to
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Speaker 1: get better and and what we're asking of him. And
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Speaker 1: it's been great just the way he's come out here working.
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Speaker 1: But he's very personal versatility key on this defense this
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Speaker 1: year with all the different schemes Joe Cullen likely has
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Speaker 1: cooked up for one season. There's a review of the
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Speaker 1: last week in training camp one. We've got a busy
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Speaker 1: show ahead. We'll come back and hear from Judy Batista,
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Speaker 1: NFL media reporter, longtime reporter for the New York Times
13:23
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13:26
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18:39
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18:42
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18:46
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18:48
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18:51
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18:55
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18:58
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19:02
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19:04
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20:01
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20:05
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20:08
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20:35
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20:40
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20:43
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20:59
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21:01
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Judy Batista, now our good friend from
21:03
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21:06
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21:09
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21:13
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21:17
Speaker 1: she is really locked into what's going on around the NFL.
21:22
Speaker 1: When it comes to the vaccination numbers, and had a
21:25
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about what's happening here in Jacksonville as well.
21:27
Speaker 1: We caught up earlier this week to see you and
21:30
Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. It's great to see you in person.
21:33
Speaker 1: This is all. It's I never thought I would say
21:34
Speaker 1: it's great to be standing out at a training camp
21:36
Speaker 1: practice again. But it's great to be hit a practice again.
21:39
Speaker 1: The last three or four interviews we've done have been
21:41
Speaker 1: over zoom right. Yes, that's all. All of last year
21:44
Speaker 1: I only saw people on a computer screen. So it's
21:46
Speaker 1: nice to be in front of people again. We're speaking
21:49
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. You were here Tuesday as well, two days
21:52
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. Your initial impression after Tuesday's practice, it
21:57
Speaker 1: feels like to be at least that there's not a
22:00
Speaker 1: lot of wasted time on the practice field. Urban Meyer
22:02
Speaker 1: is not going to let a second go by. No.
22:05
Speaker 1: It is a very efficient practice, which I'm sure is
22:07
Speaker 1: like the coach. A coach loves to hear the word efficient.
22:09
Speaker 1: That's gotta be their favorite word. But it is efficient
22:11
Speaker 1: right that they move between fields, like when they're changing fields,
22:15
Speaker 1: like there's no wasted effort and wasted time. They're getting
22:18
Speaker 1: a lot done out there so far in the offseason program.
22:21
Speaker 1: Just I know you talked to Urban around the draft.
22:24
Speaker 1: I believe you were in town for that. I'm curious
22:27
Speaker 1: how the pressure of the regular season preseason will get
22:30
Speaker 1: to him, if it will get to him, how he
22:32
Speaker 1: will handle that. So far, he's been great in front
22:35
Speaker 1: of the microphone when the lights have been on him.
22:37
Speaker 1: He always has been. That really hasn't changed. But they
22:40
Speaker 1: haven't played a live football game yet. I wonder if
22:44
Speaker 1: do you think there will be some change in Urban
22:46
Speaker 1: as this goes along. I don't know specific to Urban.
22:49
Speaker 1: There's changes in every coach in the NFL once this
22:52
Speaker 1: season gets going. Which is why I always say, like,
22:54
Speaker 1: I love coming to training camp because for the most part,
22:56
Speaker 1: nothing bad has happened yet, so everybody's still in a
22:58
Speaker 1: good mood. Everybody's opt to stick. And you haven't played
23:01
Speaker 1: a game yet. Um, most places tighten up, not just coaches,
23:05
Speaker 1: players due to and that's that's understandable, right, I mean
23:08
Speaker 1: they feel the pressure and but but look, Urban has
23:11
Speaker 1: been around the block a lot at an extremely high
23:14
Speaker 1: level with an awful lot of success, So I would
23:17
Speaker 1: think he probably changes less. I what I'm curious about
23:22
Speaker 1: is if they don't. You know, he is used to
23:24
Speaker 1: tremendous success at an extremely high level, and so if
23:28
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen that I'm curious to see how he
23:33
Speaker 1: handles that and what he does to correct him. Judi
23:35
Speaker 1: Batista with us from NFL Media. You've seen Trevor Lawrence
23:39
Speaker 1: on the field now for a day and there have
23:42
Speaker 1: been a few moments in every practice where you say,
23:45
Speaker 1: you know what, that's the number one overall pick for
23:47
Speaker 1: a reason. Yeah. There was that past yesterday to Marvin
23:50
Speaker 1: Jones that was like between two defenders. That was a
23:53
Speaker 1: rocket and like the reporters gasped, right, oh, that you know,
23:58
Speaker 1: that looks like a quarter back. And there were a
24:01
Speaker 1: few other plays that you know, probably aren't on the
24:03
Speaker 1: highlight reel, but where he rolled out and made throws
24:07
Speaker 1: on the run and plays would break down and he
24:09
Speaker 1: would make something of it. And that's what you want
24:11
Speaker 1: to see, right, I mean, maybe even more than the
24:13
Speaker 1: rocket to Marvin Jones, which I think we all know
24:15
Speaker 1: he can make that pass. It's the creating plays when
24:18
Speaker 1: things are falling apart and making plays on the move
24:22
Speaker 1: that's really which want to see. I talked to Brian
24:24
Speaker 1: schotenheimery es Jay and he said, as ridiculous as it sounds,
24:26
Speaker 1: you sort of forget what a great athlete he is,
24:29
Speaker 1: how he can move because he's so tall to right
24:32
Speaker 1: six six and so you forget that, like he can move,
24:35
Speaker 1: and he was moving yesterday and it looked good. Yesterday
24:38
Speaker 1: looked really good to me. I know the day before
24:41
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't quite as smooth, but yesterday I thought,
24:43
Speaker 1: looks good. And that's what a rookie quarterback is going
24:45
Speaker 1: to do, right. What you want to see is that
24:48
Speaker 1: he can have a good day after a bad one.
24:50
Speaker 1: Darryl Bevill spoke with the media after practice Tuesday and
24:53
Speaker 1: said that, you know, that day yesterday Tuesday, was maybe
24:58
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of overload in terms of
25:01
Speaker 1: the play calling and the retention from the installation earlier
25:05
Speaker 1: in the day. Even with the number one overall pick.
25:09
Speaker 1: That can happen. Right, it's a rookie quarterback. It's a
25:11
Speaker 1: lot of new going on here. But how he handles
25:14
Speaker 1: that and moves forward, I think will be the real
25:16
Speaker 1: answer and the telling part of Trevor. Yeah. Schottenheimer said
25:20
Speaker 1: the same thing that what they're looking for is how
25:23
Speaker 1: does he retain stuff, how does he adjust as he
25:25
Speaker 1: remember the checks at the line of scrimmage, how does
25:28
Speaker 1: he call the protections for the offensive line? All of
25:30
Speaker 1: the things that going to bring a quarterback that frankly,
25:32
Speaker 1: most people are not right. We're just looking to see
25:35
Speaker 1: is he completing passes. There's so much more that goes
25:37
Speaker 1: into it. And you know they always say it's like
25:39
Speaker 1: drinking from a fire hose, right, Like you get this
25:41
Speaker 1: gigantic playbook and it's like her kid go um. So
25:45
Speaker 1: there's gonna be ups and downs. Like you know, I
25:48
Speaker 1: was at the chests last week and it's the same
25:49
Speaker 1: thing with Zack Wilson and Robert Sali said. There's gonna
25:52
Speaker 1: be ebbs and flows and it's going to drive everybody crazy, players, coaches, vans.
25:57
Speaker 1: But this is part of the process. And all you
25:59
Speaker 1: want to see is that they can bounce back from
26:02
Speaker 1: a not good day and have a good day and
26:05
Speaker 1: and Trevor did that yesterday. So I don't think they
26:07
Speaker 1: have any concerns about Trevor Lawrence's ability to process stuff.
26:11
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer compared in terms of mental acuity um to Philip Rivers,
26:17
Speaker 1: which is a pretty high bar to reach. So that's
26:20
Speaker 1: pretty good. Judie Pattista will us. I know there's a
26:23
Speaker 1: month until opening weekend, kick off weekend, but the a
26:28
Speaker 1: f C South quarterback situations are changing by the day
26:31
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it feels like India has changed
26:33
Speaker 1: a lot. We know what Houston's going through. Tennessee is
26:36
Speaker 1: stable at least for the moment. Uh, And you know
26:39
Speaker 1: what's happening here in Jacksonville. Things have changed in the
26:41
Speaker 1: last week or so. The a f C South, I'm
26:44
Speaker 1: sorry to say, it's like a train wreck, right. I
26:46
Speaker 1: mean the this week alone, the poor Indianapolis culture having
26:50
Speaker 1: the worst injury look imaginable. With serious injuries to your
26:54
Speaker 1: starting quarterback and you're all pro guard, you know, maybe
26:58
Speaker 1: the best player on the team, and they're both at
27:01
Speaker 1: with foot injuries. That the range is like five weeks
27:03
Speaker 1: to twelve weeks, which tells us nothing. Right. Five weeks
27:06
Speaker 1: they're back for the opener, that seems optimistic. Twelve weeks
27:09
Speaker 1: they're not back until November, which is devastating. Who knows
27:14
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is going to be there? Um, and
27:16
Speaker 1: even when Carson Wentz comes back, what is he a
27:18
Speaker 1: big part of his game was mobility. Is he going
27:20
Speaker 1: to be mobile? Um? Houston? I I'm not being phusticious.
27:25
Speaker 1: I'm not sure anybody really knows what's going on there.
27:27
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really a mess. Obviously, Deshaun Watson is
27:30
Speaker 1: not going to be the starting quarterback. I think we
27:31
Speaker 1: can surmise that much. Um Tyrod Taylor is. But the
27:35
Speaker 1: roster has been repped apart. I mean, they're clearly rebuilding there.
27:39
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there. Tennessee. I think
27:42
Speaker 1: as a result of the Colts, I think Tennessee is
27:44
Speaker 1: the class of the division now. Uh And I think
27:47
Speaker 1: the addition of Julio Jones helps because that will relieve
27:51
Speaker 1: some of the defensive pressure on Derrick Henry, which is
27:53
Speaker 1: terrifying because he was as productive as he was when
27:57
Speaker 1: the defenses were keying on him. So now that the
27:58
Speaker 1: defenses can't key him on every down like whoa. Um. So,
28:02
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee is the team to beat in the division.
28:04
Speaker 1: But listen, it sets up perfectly for a team like
28:07
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, because you think you can probably pick off
28:10
Speaker 1: a few games here in the division that maybe you
28:12
Speaker 1: wouldn't have if you know if everybody was in place.
28:16
Speaker 1: Don't we know about the Derrick Henry situation here in Jacksonville.
28:19
Speaker 1: We've seen it firsthand. I believe he's insane. I mean,
28:23
Speaker 1: the fact again that defenses have been able to just
28:26
Speaker 1: load up against him and they still can't get him
28:29
Speaker 1: down is crazy. And the idea that now they're gonna
28:32
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to Julio Jones, yikes. You know,
28:35
Speaker 1: I still have nightmares of Mike Keith screamings on the
28:40
Speaker 1: commercial every single day. He's so I mean, maybe not
28:44
Speaker 1: from the jacksonval point of view, but he's so fun
28:46
Speaker 1: to watch, right, I mean, he's amazing. Um, So he
28:50
Speaker 1: may be more He probably won't get as many touches
28:52
Speaker 1: because you have Julio Jones, but he may be more
28:55
Speaker 1: productive as a result. Julie Batista with us from NFL Media.
28:59
Speaker 1: You spoke with the commissioner last week, earlier this week Saturday,
29:04
Speaker 1: this past weekend up in New York, and I think
29:08
Speaker 1: he's going to make the rounds a number of different
29:11
Speaker 1: teams for some ticketing initiatives coming up. So we'll hear
29:14
Speaker 1: from him here in Jacksonville shortly. And we've talked about
29:17
Speaker 1: this before The way he and the league handled last
29:22
Speaker 1: season was absolutely incredible. They actually got the season in
29:27
Speaker 1: full first of all, even or even a partial piece
29:31
Speaker 1: of the season, but they got the whole thing in,
29:33
Speaker 1: played through the Super Bowl, did everything. They didn't have
29:35
Speaker 1: to miss a step. Now it's on and the expectation,
29:41
Speaker 1: at least from the commissioner, it sounds like that every
29:43
Speaker 1: team should have a full stadium. We're a month away.
29:47
Speaker 1: How real is that? Well, right now they have permission
29:51
Speaker 1: from local authorities in all of the cities to have
29:54
Speaker 1: full stadiums. Um. I guess I'm curious to see if
29:58
Speaker 1: there will be Will some places go to like do
30:01
Speaker 1: you have to wear masks so you're gonna have to
30:03
Speaker 1: show some form of you know, a negative test or
30:07
Speaker 1: a vaccination card. That would be local authorities who have
30:10
Speaker 1: to make that decision. But certainly the NFL feels that
30:14
Speaker 1: now that vaccines are available to everybody twelve and up,
30:19
Speaker 1: that um that fans can be in the stadium, that
30:22
Speaker 1: they can do this safely. They felt they got some fans,
30:24
Speaker 1: they had a million fans overall last year. They were
30:27
Speaker 1: able to do that safely when there was no vaccine available.
30:31
Speaker 1: So they're i mean they're confident they're going to be
30:33
Speaker 1: allowed to have full stadiums. Then then I think it's
30:36
Speaker 1: just a question of, um, you know, how does it
30:39
Speaker 1: go during the season. I mean, one thing we learned
30:42
Speaker 1: last year is right, the virus sort of morphs and
30:45
Speaker 1: everybody has to adjust as you go along, and I
30:47
Speaker 1: think they're prepared to do that this year too. On
30:50
Speaker 1: the team front, I believe that memo the week before
30:53
Speaker 1: training camp, maybe move some players in the direction of
30:57
Speaker 1: the vaccine. Let's say the numbers continue to eyes and
31:00
Speaker 1: that's good news. Yeah, the screws got turned, no question
31:03
Speaker 1: about it. I thought Ryan Tannehill gave the most can't
31:05
Speaker 1: a thing and he said, well, it feels like the
31:06
Speaker 1: NFL is twisting our arms. So I got back to
31:08
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yes, that's exactly what they're doing. So
31:10
Speaker 1: it's working. That's good. Um, yes it is. It is
31:14
Speaker 1: a good thing. Um. I don't want to get into
31:16
Speaker 1: the vaccine debate, but I mean, uh, you know, the
31:19
Speaker 1: only way anybody is going to play through this safely,
31:22
Speaker 1: and the only way we're all going to get through
31:23
Speaker 1: this safely is to have widespread vaccination. And they feel
31:28
Speaker 1: strongly that if you talk to any coach. They clearly
31:33
Speaker 1: feel if you don't have a team that is widely vaccinated,
31:36
Speaker 1: you are at a real competitive disadvantage. And all you
31:38
Speaker 1: have to do is look at some of the teams.
31:40
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings had three quarterbacks the close contacts you know,
31:44
Speaker 1: the other day and got wiped out of practice. And
31:47
Speaker 1: imagine if that happens in a game week. I mean,
31:50
Speaker 1: you know, that's a disaster. But last year it was
31:53
Speaker 1: different because there were no vaccines, so everybody was on
31:55
Speaker 1: equal footing, right, it was impossible. It was so hard
31:58
Speaker 1: for everybody. This year much different because you're going to
32:01
Speaker 1: have some teams that have backage. You already have some
32:05
Speaker 1: teams that are vaccine. Those teams are gonna have a
32:08
Speaker 1: much easier time than a team that has you know,
32:11
Speaker 1: I don't know what the lowest figure is. Now that's it.
32:14
Speaker 1: I mean, the risk to me, the risk of for instance,
32:16
Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback not being vaccinated, must keep coaches up
32:20
Speaker 1: at night right pulling their hair out, because the risk
32:24
Speaker 1: that he could, even if he doesn't get sick, that
32:27
Speaker 1: he's a close contact and has to be out for
32:29
Speaker 1: whatever the number of days is. That's rough. When the
32:33
Speaker 1: other team's starting quarterback is going to be okay woof
32:39
Speaker 1: Judy Batista, the great reporter for NFL Media, joining us
32:44
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32:46
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon. Glad you're along
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Speaker 1: with us. J P. Shadrick. Thanks to Judy Batista NFL
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Speaker 1: Media for joining us earlier this week. We just heard
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Speaker 1: from her and it's time out of here from Jaguars
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Speaker 1: analyst Jeff Lagaman. Real training camp is here now, Jeff.
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Speaker 1: They put the pads on finally, Bud. How you doing.
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Speaker 1: I'm do good and uh, it's good to see the
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Speaker 1: pad finally go on. And it's amazing to me how
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Speaker 1: sometimes you kind of have a preconceived notion about how
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Speaker 1: certain guys are gonna look, and then when the pads
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Speaker 1: go on, sometimes that changes and uh and changes completely.
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Speaker 1: So that's why they always say, you know, you gotta
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Speaker 1: wait until you get the pad to get on, and
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Speaker 1: wait till the pad to get on, especially for some
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Speaker 1: of the big guys, because it certainly changes. We are
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Speaker 1: gonna go through some of the tape that you've been
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Speaker 1: watching from practice most days, watching everything. I really I
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Speaker 1: got this, JP, I got this new chair from my
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Speaker 1: father in law that he had forever and and for
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Speaker 1: lack of a better term, it's kind of like this
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Speaker 1: old man sharing you know, it's got the it's got
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Speaker 1: the remote control that's attached to the wire. You know,
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Speaker 1: if you have a hard time getting up, that raises
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Speaker 1: you up and and and out, you know. And then
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Speaker 1: it's got a reclined feature to it. And man, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you now, sometimes, you know, I'm I get
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Speaker 1: an arcilepsy sometimes when I'm watching film and it's terrible,
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Speaker 1: but it's awesome. It's like the ultimate film seat. Got
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Speaker 1: my iPad, get my pillar ret on front, prop that
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Speaker 1: iPad right up in front of me, Get my glasses
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Speaker 1: on because you know, my eyes are are not what
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Speaker 1: they used to be, and watch every single drill that
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Speaker 1: I possibly can. And it's been awesome. It's been awesome.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember ever hearing you sound this old before
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Speaker 1: I just said your eyesight is bad. You got an
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Speaker 1: old man cheering. Now you got grant your beards, like
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Speaker 1: what's going on over there? Oh? You know, you know
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Speaker 1: I'm getting into my mid fifties and songs starting to
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Speaker 1: get older. But it's uh, I can tell you this.
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Speaker 1: Watching football never gets old for me. You know, I
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Speaker 1: absolutely love watching the film part and the aspect of
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Speaker 1: it because you know, as much as you know when
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Speaker 1: you gain by watching it in person. It's hard to
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Speaker 1: watch all eleven guys are actually all twenty two guys
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Speaker 1: on every single play. So when you when you have
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Speaker 1: the ability to watch the tape with your eyes, you
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Speaker 1: watch a certain area, but then on the tape you
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Speaker 1: go back and you rewind it three or four times
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Speaker 1: to watch some of them. Maybe some of the nuances
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Speaker 1: and the small things are the little things that guys do,
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Speaker 1: and you pick up on some of that stuff, and
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Speaker 1: and you don't a lot, you're a lot. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you certainly learned more than you could by actually being
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Speaker 1: there in person, I think, but sometimes you've got to
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Speaker 1: be there in person to see certain things. And being
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Speaker 1: there in person to see Trevor Lawrence, uh, to me
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Speaker 1: is an eye opener because when you watch them on film,
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Speaker 1: as I've done for many months in the off season
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Speaker 1: leading up to the draft and then obviously many camp
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Speaker 1: seeing him in person, it was different because he's got
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Speaker 1: a lot, a lot more velocity. He's got the build,
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Speaker 1: he's got the hike, and he's got the athleticism. And
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Speaker 1: sometimes that's hard to see all of that by just
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Speaker 1: watching the film. Sometimes you got to see it in
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Speaker 1: person as well. Daryl bevil. Earlier this week, the offensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator Logs said that, you know, he could tell and
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Speaker 1: in one of the practices that maybe there was a
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Speaker 1: little bit of overload with him and from the installation
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Speaker 1: of the practice field, maybe some of the alignments were
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Speaker 1: off here there. That happens with a rookie quarterback. Can
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Speaker 1: you see that on the tape as well? And how
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Speaker 1: does a rookie quarterback overcome something like that? Well, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't just happen to a rookie quarterback. It happens to
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Speaker 1: rookies period. And that's just the way it is. You
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Speaker 1: You you know, all of a sudden during training camp
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Speaker 1: you have an installation progression, and you know, in the
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Speaker 1: mini camps and O t A s it's kind of
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Speaker 1: slow and it's very subtle. But then once you get
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Speaker 1: the training camp, okay, there's no time to waste. We
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Speaker 1: have to install the entire playbook because when we get
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Speaker 1: to one we may have to use the entire playbook.
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Speaker 1: And so the rate of installation is increased in training camp.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes rookies get a little bit of that fog
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Speaker 1: brain I kind of call it, because they kind of
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Speaker 1: get lost, you know, they get a couple of things
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Speaker 1: down and then all of a sudden, Okay, that's good,
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Speaker 1: I got it. You know, Then they add three more
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Speaker 1: things to it the next day. Then you're still trying
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Speaker 1: to maintain that clarity and sometimes it's difficult, but you know, look,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has moments in JP. I heard you talk
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Speaker 1: about this early in the show, and I think you
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Speaker 1: hit it right on the head and that every now
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Speaker 1: and again, Trevor Lawrence has two or three throws. In
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Speaker 1: my opinion, it's more than that, but he has throws
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Speaker 1: in practices that reminds you why he was the first
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Speaker 1: overall pick. The skill set that he has is fantastic.
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Speaker 1: And the one thing I think that he is also
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Speaker 1: learning is one he's trying to learn a new system.
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Speaker 1: He's trying to learn a new language. But JP one
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Speaker 1: of the biggest adjustment adjustment for quarterbacks when they make
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Speaker 1: the jump from college to pros. The windows now get
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Speaker 1: smaller because the athletes at every level are better and
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Speaker 1: so the quarterback again has smaller windows to throw in.
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Speaker 1: So what may not appear to be open from college
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Speaker 1: and the pros, it's considered open. So it's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of an adjustment in a lot of different ways,
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Speaker 1: from the verbiage to the amount of coverages that you face,
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Speaker 1: but then also the type of windows that you're seeing
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Speaker 1: as a passer. Jeff Lockman with us here on Jaguar's
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour taking a look at the tape, and you
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Speaker 1: know the boy. The last practice yesterday was a winner
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Speaker 1: versus loser practice logs. That's what they announced at the
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Speaker 1: start of practice, and every rep a winner was announced
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Speaker 1: over the loudspeaker by Fernando Lovo, the chief of staff
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Speaker 1: Irban Meyer. Urbans right there in the middle grading this
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Speaker 1: thing live instantaneously. They want instant results from all this
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Speaker 1: one on one drill from special teams, one on ones,
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Speaker 1: two O line versus D line, everybody that had it.
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Speaker 1: Urban's right there in the middle of it. And actually
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Speaker 1: at one point he got run over on special teams
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Speaker 1: drill and took a spill on the practice field. He's
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Speaker 1: that close and into it. Uh. He got up and
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Speaker 1: finished practice, of course, just fine. But I liked Urban's
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Speaker 1: idea of having that instant feedback and keeping the grade,
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Speaker 1: which they probably did in the past anyway, but it's
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Speaker 1: out there for everybody to see, so you have a
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Speaker 1: pretty good idea of where you stand. Well, the one
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Speaker 1: the one thing I think that for me, JP, the
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Speaker 1: more I hear from urban Meyer, the more I like
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Speaker 1: And is this anything new keeping score? Well, no, but
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Speaker 1: it's the fact that you're letting the players know that
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Speaker 1: we're going to announce it and let everybody know how
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Speaker 1: that competition is working out. That's different, you know, But
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Speaker 1: in coach's minds, they've always kept score in the past.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how you make your just decisions, to
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Speaker 1: make roster decisions or to uh make personnel moves or
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Speaker 1: change guys positions or the percentage of in the rotation,
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Speaker 1: and all those things have happened before. But I think
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Speaker 1: it kind of creates a little bit more awareness of
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Speaker 1: what the bottom line is and it's it's a and
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Speaker 1: if you look at Jaguars coaches that have coached in
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Speaker 1: the past, this is like the opposite end of the
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Speaker 1: spectrum from Gus Bradley, you know, because Urban is it's
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Speaker 1: all about the results. The end result was Gus Bradley,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of okay, it's the journey, and it's the
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Speaker 1: process and and and they're they're both right, and that
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Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to get a certain points where
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Speaker 1: you're successful. And there's kind of two belief systems. I
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Speaker 1: like Urban's way and me and Gus used to have
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Speaker 1: arguments about the way in which it should be accomplished.
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Speaker 1: But anothertheless, the more I hear from Urban, the more
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Speaker 1: I like them. When he's in the drill, little JP,
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Speaker 1: when you talked about he almost got run over, he
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Speaker 1: and the one on one pass rush, he is right
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Speaker 1: there in the mix and he has almost gotten crushed
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Speaker 1: numerous times. He'd better work on his little four cone
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Speaker 1: drill because you've got to get better feet to get
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Speaker 1: out of the way. But I like it because it
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Speaker 1: also lets the players know the coaches in it with us.
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Speaker 1: And and that's a big deal because when you get
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Speaker 1: into the NFL season and things are kind of not easy. Look,
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Speaker 1: the more you want to play for a coach, the
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Speaker 1: harder you're gonna play. And so I like that aspect
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Speaker 1: of it, and JP, I don't. I'm trying to think
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Speaker 1: of a way that me and you can have a
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Speaker 1: winner's loser home. You know, I'm gonna let you kind
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Speaker 1: of think on that, but we got to do something
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Speaker 1: like that. It's a great show. It's a great idea.
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Speaker 1: We'll we'll get a lot of season ahead to figure
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Speaker 1: that out. But I gotta feeling, um, well, well, we'll
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Speaker 1: work on that. We'll work on that. I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: concede anything yet, because you never know competition. One quick
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Speaker 1: thing jp about the winners and losers, because it was
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Speaker 1: far reaching across the entire practice. It was the offensive
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Speaker 1: and defensive lineman in pass rush, drill and run blocking.
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Speaker 1: Then you had the running backs versus linebackers, and it
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Speaker 1: was in past protection. And then it was also in
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Speaker 1: one on one coverage for those guys as well. So
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Speaker 1: special teams had an aspect of it. The wide receivers
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Speaker 1: and corners playing man coverage, bump and run had the
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Speaker 1: winners and losers day. So everybody got a piece of
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Speaker 1: it in practice, and I like it. Well, we'll come
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Speaker 1: today Okay Winners losers logs. You know, I was a
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Speaker 1: little late getting to practice, had a meeting, had to
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Speaker 1: walk out there a little late. The first thing I
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Speaker 1: see when I get on the practice field yesterday is
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Speaker 1: Walker little throwing Cale and chasing around, you know. And
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Speaker 1: and here's the thing. JP caleban chaise On had a
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Speaker 1: really good first padded practice. I'm talking really good on
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Speaker 1: Tuesday and I was like, holy col calevan chase On,
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Speaker 1: that's what the Jaguars need. He's taking a step up,
51:38
Speaker 1: he's making himself get recognized, he's making plays. And the
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Speaker 1: first day of pads that's what you want to see.
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Speaker 1: Day two rolls around and he meets Walker Little and
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Speaker 1: that was it for caleban chaise On. That was it.
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Speaker 1: Walker Little is uh. I realistically believe this that there's
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Speaker 1: a serious competition going on left tackle, whether it's spoken
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Speaker 1: or unspoken, whatever you want to call it. Walker Little
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Speaker 1: is a very talented young man. He hasn't played a
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Speaker 1: lot of football, but he is extremely talented. He's got feet,
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Speaker 1: he's got sized, he's got technique, he's got strength, he's
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Speaker 1: got everything that you want out of a left tackle.
52:18
Speaker 1: And let me say this also, Cam Robinson, I think
52:22
Speaker 1: is doing very well and having a good camp, but
52:25
Speaker 1: Cam still has some technical flaws that I think are
52:29
Speaker 1: going to be difficult to overcome. Now. Walker Little still
52:33
Speaker 1: has to continue to progress, and it's early in the process.
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Speaker 1: Has only been two padded practices, but I think it
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Speaker 1: makes you go okay, that there's a reason to be
52:43
Speaker 1: excited because this is a young man that could progress
52:46
Speaker 1: and be a really good football player. And the competition
52:51
Speaker 1: makes the team better and it makes players better. That's
52:54
Speaker 1: what you like the moment. I mean, Cam Robinson has
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Speaker 1: that thirteen point seven million dollar one year deal right now,
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Speaker 1: the franchise tag, so it's guaranteed gloves. That's the only
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Speaker 1: hang up I think that you know, and I'm not
53:08
Speaker 1: saying that's gonna happen. No, You're not gonna sit thirteen
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Speaker 1: million dollars on the bench. You're gonna find a way
53:13
Speaker 1: to get Cam Robinson on the field play somewhere. Right.
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Speaker 1: The reality is is that when it comes to starting jobs,
53:22
Speaker 1: it's not about the money all the time. It's about
53:24
Speaker 1: the performance. And I like Cam and I think Cam's
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Speaker 1: a good football player. But the reality is is that
53:30
Speaker 1: Walker a Little is a really good football player. I
53:34
Speaker 1: think is ceiling is higher than Cam Robinson, and it's
53:38
Speaker 1: early in the process, so let's kind of see what happens.
53:41
Speaker 1: But I'm excited for the competition. I mean, that's what
53:43
Speaker 1: you want, you wish you had more competition across the
53:46
Speaker 1: whole entire roster that way. That means your general manager
53:50
Speaker 1: is doing a great job of acquiring talent. And it's
53:53
Speaker 1: only year one for this regime. So the more that
53:56
Speaker 1: they can do this type of thing in the future,
53:58
Speaker 1: the better they're gonna be. Pure. You lugs, who else
54:02
Speaker 1: stood out to you as a winner from the trenches yesterday? Well,
54:07
Speaker 1: there's a few guys and and it's it's kind of
54:10
Speaker 1: hard to single out one guy in particular, but but
54:14
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it because Davon Hamilton is an absolute stud,
54:21
Speaker 1: I mean absolute stud. And when they weren't in pads,
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Speaker 1: I was kind of watching him going, you know, he's
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Speaker 1: got to pick it up. He's not moving his feet.
54:30
Speaker 1: Well he's not moving. Well, he's gotta he's gotta show
54:35
Speaker 1: up more. Well, Pat's go on and and all of
54:39
Speaker 1: a sudden, guess what the guy that And I would
54:42
Speaker 1: love to know how big he really is because he's listening.
54:46
Speaker 1: He's the roster j There's not a chance in hell
54:55
Speaker 1: that he's three thirty five. I'm here to tell you
54:57
Speaker 1: that right now, there's no that that he is less
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Speaker 1: than three fifty. And here's the thing ain't a fat
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Speaker 1: three fifty okay, and then I'm not talking about a
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Speaker 1: four percent three fifty either, body fact type of guy.
55:12
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's got some got some
55:14
Speaker 1: girth to him, you know, so he's got some body fat,
55:16
Speaker 1: but I mean he's got a lot of muscle. And
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Speaker 1: watching him the last two days, nobody can block him.
55:23
Speaker 1: Brandon Lennar can't block him, okay. Tyler Shatley can't block him.
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Speaker 1: Nor Well can't block him. A j can can't block him. Seriously,
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Speaker 1: It's you know, JP, when when you're young and you're
55:35
Speaker 1: in high school and you always have people that are
55:39
Speaker 1: on kind of different levels of maturity. You know, you
55:43
Speaker 1: had that guy in in high school and you know,
55:46
Speaker 1: and he was already muscled up and he had almost
55:48
Speaker 1: could grow a full beard, you know, and then you
55:50
Speaker 1: were waking up every day and you're looking at your
55:52
Speaker 1: arm Pisco man, I wish I could get some hair
55:54
Speaker 1: in the armpit, you know, because I mean the guys
55:57
Speaker 1: are just on different levels. In high school, when you
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Speaker 1: watched Devon Hamilton's place, sometimes that's what it looks like
56:03
Speaker 1: where he is at. And then he's on a different level.
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Speaker 1: He is powerful, he moves well, he toys with guys.
56:11
Speaker 1: And you brought up a name with me earlier we
56:13
Speaker 1: were talking about it, and you brought up the name
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Speaker 1: of Marcel Darius. Marcel Darius didn't have the size that
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Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton's have. The Devon is doing it with probably
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Speaker 1: less strength and just more sheer mass. But it's similar
56:29
Speaker 1: as far as the dominance on the offensive line, and
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Speaker 1: it's fun to watch. It is fun to watch. Indeed,
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. There was another standout play
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Speaker 1: at least that I remember that Roy Robertson Harris made
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Speaker 1: in one on ones against Brandon Lender. Spin move and
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Speaker 1: put Lender on the ground. That's a free agent pickup.
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Speaker 1: And you know, so far in in training camp, the
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Speaker 1: free agent pickups have a been a good guys to
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Speaker 1: talk to, seem like great additions in the locker room,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of these guys have flashed on the
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Speaker 1: field so far and camp. That's a good sign. Well, JP,
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Speaker 1: I will tell you the defensive line acquisition. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean a defensive line guy like watching that and
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Speaker 1: my eyes kind of gravitate towards that, probably on every
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Speaker 1: play more than other positions. That's just natural. But with
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Speaker 1: Davon Hamilton's Roy Robertson Harris and then also your other
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Speaker 1: free agent acquisition, uhcol Brown, Malcolm Brown, Malcolm Brown. Okay,
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Speaker 1: those three guys right now, those are your starting three
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Speaker 1: front guys in your three four based defense. I think
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Speaker 1: I think they're the most talented players that you have
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Speaker 1: up front. Now, the other guys that played last year,
57:42
Speaker 1: you know, you got you gotta got this and and
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Speaker 1: uh you know aqual A and those guys look their
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Speaker 1: backups and they can have a lot of flexibility. With
57:52
Speaker 1: some guys like Smooth, he can play down as a
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Speaker 1: defensive event. But when you're in run stopping mode and
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Speaker 1: you to be big on big, those are your three
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Speaker 1: guys and right now they're playing really good. And Roy
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Speaker 1: Robinson Harris it's fun to watch because not only is
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Speaker 1: he's strong and he's big and naturally big and strong,
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Speaker 1: but he's got some athleticism to him and he's got
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Speaker 1: really good body control. When I say athleticism, some guys
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Speaker 1: have a letticism maken run and jumping and kind of
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Speaker 1: do those type of things. But Roy Robinson Harris has
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Speaker 1: a great awareness as well as a defensive Lineman something
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Speaker 1: that Tavian Bryan we're talking about for a number of years,
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Speaker 1: but that's an area of his game that he has
58:32
Speaker 1: to work on. But boy, Robinson Harris, he's got that
58:35
Speaker 1: good stuff. Flogs. We have plenty more ahead coming up
58:39
Speaker 1: in the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. You can't
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Speaker 1: wait to hear more of your breakdowns of Training Camp
58:46
Speaker 1: one so far. Logs has been watching the film in
58:49
Speaker 1: great detail over the last week or two, and I
58:52
Speaker 1: will see what else he has to say about this
58:55
Speaker 1: Jaguars team here in just a little bit. Well, also
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Speaker 1: here again from Judy Batista, NFL media reporter. She'll join
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Speaker 1: us a little thought on Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: in the second hour the Network Hour coming up our
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Speaker 1: thanks to Judy for joining us. Thanks to a Jeff Logaman.
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Speaker 1: Plenty more ahead As Jaguars Happy Our rolls along. It's
59:16
Speaker 1: an off day for the Jaguars. They're back on the
59:18
Speaker 1: practice field tomorrow Saturday and then in the stadium Sunday
59:22
Speaker 1: for the scrimmage. Training Camp rolling along, and we're rolling
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