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- Lucas: There's a career moment that doesn't show up on your resume, but it can cost you more than any bad performance review: the day you decide to leave a company that's holding your unvested stock. Luna: That's the gap I think a lot of job hoppers miss. They see the salary bump at the new place, but they don't calculate what they're leaving behind in equity. Lucas: Exactly. And it's not just about startup options. RSUs at public companies also vest on schedules. But the stakes are highest when you're at a private company approaching an IPO or acquisition. Let me give you a concrete example. Lucas: I talked to a software engineer earlier this year who joined a late-stage Series D company in 2023. She got 50,000 options with a four-year vest, one-year cliff. By spring 2025, she'd vested 25% — 12,500 options. She got an offer from a big tech firm, 30% base salary increase, and she took it. Three months later, her old company filed for IPO. The strike price was $2, the IPO priced at $24. Luna: So she left 37,500 options unvested. At $22 gain per option, that's $825,000 in theoretical value, minus taxes. Lucas: She knew the numbers. She told me she'd done the math. But the new offer felt safe. The IPO was uncertain. And she'd already been through one down round at a previous startup. The bird in the hand won. Luna: And sometimes that's the right call. But the point is — she made that decision with her eyes wide open. A lot of people don't even know what their vesting schedule is. Lucas: Right. So let's talk about the mechanics. Most equity grants follow a standard four-year vest with a one-year cliff. That means you get zero stock in year one. On month 13, you vest 25% of your grant all at once. Then monthly or quarterly after that. Luna: And if you leave before that cliff — you walk away with nothing. That's the most common misstep I see in the first year. Lucas: Yeah, the cliff is brutal. If you're six months in and hating the role, the financial argument is: can you stick it out for seven more months to capture that first chunk? Sometimes the answer is no. But you should know what you're giving up. Luna: I had a friend who left a company at 11 months, so close to the cliff. He knew, but the new role was a dream job. He's happy. But he still talks about that stock. Lucas: That's the thing — it's not always a mistake. But let's talk about what happens when your company gets acquired. That's a whole other layer. Lucas: If you're at a startup that gets bought, acquirers often accelerate vesting. Sometimes it's single-trigger — your entire unvested grant vests immediately upon change of control. More often it's double-trigger — you have to be acquired and then terminated without cause or resign for good reason within a window. Luna: So if you're planning to job hop, and you hear acquisition rumors, you want to know what your acceleration clause says. That could be the difference between staying six more months and losing a year's worth of vesting. Lucas: Exactly. And this ties directly to job hopping because the conventional wisdom is that short tenures hurt your resume. But if you leave during an acquisition window, you might be walking away from a huge payout. So the calculus changes. Luna: I want to bring up another situation: people who job hop between public companies. RSUs at a place like Microsoft or Alphabet vest on a schedule, but those shares are liquid. You can sell them immediately upon vesting. Lucas: Right, so the math is cleaner. You know exactly what you're leaving. Let's say you have $100,000 in RSUs vesting over the next two years. A new company offers you a $60,000 signing bonus and a higher base. You can compare apples to apples. Lucas: But with private company options, the value is speculative. The tax treatment is also more complex — you might be looking at incentive stock options versus non-qualified, and the AMT implications. Luna: And then there's the question of negotiating. Can you get the new company to buy out your unvested equity? Lucas: More companies are doing that now, especially for senior hires. They'll do a 'make-whole' grant — give you RSUs that vest over time to replace what you're leaving. But it's not automatic. You have to ask. Luna: And if you're a job hopper, you might be leaving a trail of unvested grants. The cumulative effect can be huge. Lucas: That's the hidden cost of frequent moves. Every time you restart, you reset the clock. The first year at a new company, you're earning zero equity. If you do that three times in four years, you've essentially forfeited three years of equity accumulation. Luna: Which is fine if your salary is going up enough. But you need to do the math. I think a lot of people just look at base salary and bonus. Lucas: Totally. And there's one more scenario that's really specific to job hoppers: leaving right before a liquidity event. We talked about the engineer a minute ago. But there's also the case where you leave a company that later gets acquired for a multiple. Lucas: I know a product manager who left a Series A startup after 18 months. She'd vested about 20% of her options. Two years later, that company sold for $500 million. Her unvested options, had she stayed, would have been worth about $400,000 at the exit price. She told me she doesn't regret leaving — the new role advanced her career — but she thinks about it. Luna: And that's the honest take. It's not always regret. But the awareness piece is critical. If we've helped you think through a decision like that — whether to stay for the vest or take the next opportunity — that's exactly what this show is about. Lucas: Yeah, and a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going. If you've gotten something out of the show, buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo — it's that simple. And it makes a real difference in keeping the episodes ad-free. Luna: We put a lot of research into each one, so that helps a ton. Lucas: Okay, back to equity math. One strategy I want to mention is early exercise. Some companies allow you to exercise unvested options before they vest. You pay the strike price now, and you start the capital gains clock earlier. That can save you a lot in taxes if the stock appreciates. Luna: But you're spending cash today on something that might never be worth anything. It's a bet. Lucas: It is. And it's only available if your company's plan allows it. But for job hoppers who know they're leaving, it's a way to capture some of that upside without staying. Luna: Another thing: when you get a new job offer, ask for the equity details upfront. Don't just look at the number of shares. Ask about the strike price, the 409A valuation, the total shares outstanding. That tells you what your percentage ownership is. Lucas: And ask about the vesting schedule. Some companies offer accelerated vesting for certain roles. If you're a key hire, you might negotiate a six-month cliff instead of 12. Or front-loaded vesting where you get 40% in year one. Luna: I've seen that more in later-stage startups trying to attract talent from public companies. They know the cliff is a barrier. Lucas: Right. So the takeaway is: if you job hop, don't just look at the new salary. Calculate the total compensation trajectory, including forfeited equity. And understand your exit options before you hand in your notice. Luna: And if you're at a private company, ask for your equity documents. Read them. Know the cliff, the vesting schedule, and the acceleration terms. Lucas: Because that stack of paper could be worth more than your next two years of salary. And the worst time to learn that is after you've already left. Luna: Yeah. Alright, that's a solid framework for anyone weighing a move.