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- 0:07Speaker 1: He's the Shan O'Connell Show, brought to you by Big
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- 0:25Speaker 2: Heavy First Briday.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Welcome to the Shat O'Connell Show, US USA USA.
- 0:34Speaker 4: That is both a reactionary chant and a preemptive predictive
- 0:38Speaker 4: chance for Olympic hockey women's gold medal game puck dropping
- 0:43Speaker 4: shortly USA versus Canada.
- 0:47Speaker 5: I wish I was in Milan for this right now.
- 0:50Speaker 4: And of course the reactionary chant comes from an overtime
- 0:55Speaker 4: victory over Sweden. First time Team USA has beat Team
- 0:59Speaker 4: Sweden in about sixty years in the Olympics, at least
- 1:03Speaker 4: in the Olympics where NHL ers are involved. So Quinn
- 1:09Speaker 4: Hughes three on three hockey, beautiful goal to send US
- 1:16Speaker 4: men's hockey through to the Olympic semi final where they
- 1:20Speaker 4: will take on a somewhat surprising Slovakia team. So Connor
- 1:30Speaker 4: hellibook O's Quinn Hughes and company a bit of a beverage.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Perhaps I don't know if it's free or not. In
- 1:37Speaker 2: the Olympic village.
- 1:38Speaker 4: I don't know if it's encouraged or discouraged in the
- 1:40Speaker 4: Olympic village because everyone seems like they're there to party.
- 1:42Speaker 4: But we talked about this with Adrian Denny yesterday.
- 1:46Speaker 2: How Hella buck is.
- 1:47Speaker 4: He's kind of like the steady consistent I mean ninety
- 1:51Speaker 4: five percent, say percentage in this Olympic tournament. But he
- 1:54Speaker 4: was giving up a goal of game, and the knock
- 1:57Speaker 4: on him has always been, hey, can you win us
- 2:01Speaker 4: the big one? He gave up a third period, late
- 2:03Speaker 4: third period goal to mika'z A Benajad, and it looked
- 2:08Speaker 4: like things we're gonna get a little shaky for Team USA.
- 2:12Speaker 4: Head into overtime and Connor Hughes puts one.
- 2:16Speaker 5: Quinn Hughes. Connor Hughes is a fighter.
- 2:19Speaker 4: Quinn Hughes is the NHL Star Slash Team USA hero
- 2:25Speaker 4: from yesterday. So little Olympic hockey and again we've got
- 2:29Speaker 4: a gold medal game on the women's side of things
- 2:31Speaker 4: coming very very shortly. I will give you updates as
- 2:35Speaker 4: the show progresses. Bronze, just bronze medal game descended. I'm
- 2:39Speaker 4: gonna have to double check who your bronze medalist is
- 2:42Speaker 4: but it was it was Switzerland Sweden, so we have
- 2:48Speaker 4: a bronze medalist. Obviously, this one's gonna determine the gold
- 2:51Speaker 4: and silver. The all time gold medal games in women's
- 2:56Speaker 4: hockey Olympic women's hockey have been Canada USA at pretty
- 3:02Speaker 4: much every Olympic Games, with the exception of one Canada
- 3:06Speaker 4: Sweden contest. So let's go team USA, get this thing done.
- 3:13Speaker 4: Gold medal add to the gold medal count. And of
- 3:15Speaker 4: course I know that the gold medal count team sports
- 3:18Speaker 4: as even as large as this, when the count as
- 3:20Speaker 4: one gold medal or as one medal whatever you end
- 3:23Speaker 4: up getting. But we know, all right, we know what
- 3:26Speaker 4: if you get the gold Olympic gold medal in hockey,
- 3:29Speaker 4: that's kind of it's worth like five gold medals. It's
- 3:31Speaker 4: the it's like and maybe this is just how US
- 3:35Speaker 4: mainstream sports fans think, but for me and I feel
- 3:39Speaker 4: like the majority of of like actual hardcore sports fans
- 3:44Speaker 4: in America or North America, in the summer, the basketball
- 3:49Speaker 4: medal medals are the most important, and well, in hockey,
- 3:53Speaker 4: it's it's it's are in winter Olympics.
- 3:56Speaker 5: It's hockey, right.
- 3:57Speaker 4: You know what, you know what, James, this is. This
- 4:00Speaker 4: is a good question. We got to figure out a
- 4:01Speaker 4: way to craft this. But not all medals are created equals, certainly, right,
- 4:09Speaker 4: What is the most prestigious of all prestigious medals in
- 4:14Speaker 4: the Olympics?
- 4:15Speaker 2: Now?
- 4:15Speaker 4: I think in the Summer Olympics, basketball is obviously a
- 4:18Speaker 4: big deal. I think that the one hundred meter champion
- 4:21Speaker 4: is the most prestigious of all the Olympic gold medals
- 4:26Speaker 4: in the Summer Olympics because you're the fastest man or
- 4:29Speaker 4: the fastest woman on the planet in that case.
- 4:32Speaker 5: But they're not teams.
- 4:34Speaker 4: Swimming's a big deal, probably more because Michael Phelps made
- 4:39Speaker 4: him a big deal for us, won't. I mean Katie
- 4:41Speaker 4: Ladecci's and on the women's side, yes, she's like even
- 4:46Speaker 4: she's even more of an outlier relative to her competition
- 4:49Speaker 4: than Michael Phelps's in a lot of events, at least,
- 4:52Speaker 4: So the most prestigious of all prestigious gold medals I
- 4:56Speaker 4: actually had in the notes trying to put into con text,
- 5:00Speaker 4: like how how in crowd a lofty and achievement a
- 5:07Speaker 4: gold medal is relative to like would you rather would you?
- 5:12Speaker 2: Would you rather be able?
- 5:13Speaker 4: To say in America, right, that you are a gold
- 5:17Speaker 4: medalist in the Olympics, or that you like won the
- 5:19Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy.
- 5:22Speaker 5: Would you rather be able to say that you were.
- 5:24Speaker 4: An Olympic gold medalist or that you were an NBA
- 5:28Speaker 4: n VP. See I think I think the gold medal
- 5:33Speaker 4: when you're when you're taking an account the entire populists
- 5:36Speaker 4: of America, right, not just the sports fans, right, which
- 5:39Speaker 4: the Olympics bring in every just about everybody, not just
- 5:42Speaker 4: sports fans, right. We the patriotism, the the pageantry, all
- 5:46Speaker 4: of that. So I think that when you're taking when
- 5:51Speaker 4: you're bringing taking everyone into account, that gold medal, you
- 5:55Speaker 4: would rather be a gold medalist. You would get more
- 6:00Speaker 4: attention if that's what you're looking for from winning this.
- 6:03Speaker 4: If that's part of what you're looking for from winning this,
- 6:05Speaker 4: for being a gold medalist, then you would be from
- 6:07Speaker 4: a Heisman Trophy now among like, like I was saying,
- 6:10Speaker 4: trying to say, mainstream sports fans, hardcore sports fans, just
- 6:16Speaker 4: that smaller sample size, still big, but smaller than the
- 6:20Speaker 4: entire populace of the United States. Of course, Heisman Trophy
- 6:25Speaker 4: is probably going to be the thing, right, but in
- 6:28Speaker 4: general gold medal is a bigger deal, no, I mean, yeah,
- 6:31Speaker 4: looks it's harder to win an Olympic gold medal than
- 6:34Speaker 4: it is to win a Heisman trophy. Even though there's
- 6:37Speaker 4: a lot of a lot more people that win gold
- 6:38Speaker 4: medals obviously than Heisman trophies every cycle.
- 6:42Speaker 5: It is harder.
- 6:44Speaker 4: You'll only get a shot every four years to do it.
- 6:48Speaker 4: Your competition is not just the best like eighteen to
- 6:52Speaker 4: twenty two year old athletes in the United States of America,
- 6:55Speaker 4: it is the best athletes of any age demographic on
- 6:59Speaker 4: the planet. Yeah, but it's not like the numbers don't
- 7:03Speaker 4: always go that way, right, I mean, I've made this
- 7:06Speaker 4: case many many times, to be like an elite world
- 7:09Speaker 4: champion boxer, right, to be an elite world champion in
- 7:13Speaker 4: mixed martial arts, to be like, it's actually a lot
- 7:17Speaker 4: more rare to be that than to be a super
- 7:20Speaker 4: Bowl champion. But there's not a single American sports fan
- 7:25Speaker 4: out there, well, there's probably a few, but most American
- 7:29Speaker 4: sports fans just being like, yeah, the ultimate achievements a
- 7:31Speaker 4: super Bowl championship.
- 7:32Speaker 2: But it's like there's a lot more of those Super
- 7:34Speaker 2: Bowl rings.
- 7:35Speaker 4: Floating around out there than there are like multiple time
- 7:38Speaker 4: belt winners in boxing or the UFC fight. The place
- 7:43Speaker 4: of these sports in our society obviously batters here. And
- 7:46Speaker 4: that's why, like people who listen to our show are
- 7:50Speaker 4: probably gonna say it's a no brainer a Heisman trophy.
- 7:52Speaker 4: But it's like there's a lot of people who aren't
- 7:55Speaker 4: sports fans who pay attention to the Olympics and think
- 7:58Speaker 4: that with the gold medal is a huge deal, and
- 8:00Speaker 4: they don't think a Heisman trophy is that big a deal.
- 8:02Speaker 5: They may not even know what the Heisman Trophy is.
- 8:05Speaker 4: And the other thing about it is, right when I'm
- 8:07Speaker 4: when I think about prestige, importance, things like that, I'm
- 8:11Speaker 4: talking about the average person. You and I could probably
- 8:16Speaker 4: name more well, we could probably name an equal number
- 8:20Speaker 4: of gold medal winners and Heisman Trophy winners. It probably
- 8:23Speaker 4: be kind of the same weight, right, just in your memory,
- 8:27Speaker 4: in your sports awareness, things like that, does that count
- 8:31Speaker 4: bat twelve twelve players on the basketball team? In that case,
- 8:35Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to rattle off a lot more
- 8:37Speaker 4: gold medals because I don't know, right, And I say
- 8:40Speaker 4: that tongue in cheek, because because yeah, you're gonna I
- 8:42Speaker 4: don't know. I name every NBA player who won a
- 8:45Speaker 4: gold medal, like I knew who Mikayla Schiffern was. I
- 8:48Speaker 4: knew that she had won at least one gold medal,
- 8:50Speaker 4: But I couldn't have told you when she just won
- 8:53Speaker 4: her her first one in these Olympics. I couldn't have
- 8:55Speaker 4: told you, first of all, that that was her first
- 8:57Speaker 4: one in eight years. Yeah, And I also couldn't have
- 8:59Speaker 4: told you. I don't know if that's her second or
- 9:02Speaker 4: third or her fifth. I don't know. By the way,
- 9:06Speaker 4: I hate the way that that language is accurate, but
- 9:10Speaker 4: it's also like misleading. This is her first Olympic medal
- 9:14Speaker 4: in eight years. Yeah, it's her first Olympic medal in
- 9:17Speaker 4: two tries, two in two Olympics. It's like she didn't
- 9:22Speaker 4: win a bunch in Beijing like they thought she would.
- 9:24Speaker 4: She had a bad Olympic Games. She didn't put in
- 9:27Speaker 4: any medals in Beijing, right, yeah, so like she just
- 9:31Speaker 4: had a bad Olympics. So she had a she had
- 9:33Speaker 4: a bad season. She had one bad season. And it's
- 9:37Speaker 4: but because it's the Olympics, we're like, she hasn't won
- 9:40Speaker 4: a medal in eight years?
- 9:42Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of it's kind of
- 9:45Speaker 3: the same as like like Lowry Markin was not an
- 9:48Speaker 3: All Star last year.
- 9:50Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Like, Okay, it's been bad for eight years.
- 9:55Speaker 4: You have a bad season or an injury plagued season
- 9:58Speaker 4: or whatever. In the Olympics, it's like this person has
- 10:01Speaker 4: been irrelevant for eight years, like she's thirty years old.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Knock it off.
- 10:06Speaker 5: They're on the ice. They're they're on the ice.
- 10:09Speaker 4: And one update I did I did find out who
- 10:12Speaker 4: the bronze medalist is for women's hockey. It is Switzerland.
- 10:16Speaker 4: They beat Sweden tow to one in overtime. So exciting,
- 10:19Speaker 4: exciting finish for the bronze medal game. Congrats to the Swiss.
- 10:24Speaker 4: Here's what I love. We've seen the players around the ice.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Here's the first my first impression that I love. Canada
- 10:30Speaker 4: is not wearing a black maple leaf. They have a
- 10:32Speaker 4: red maple leaf. Good job, Lady Canadians, lady leafs. I
- 10:36Speaker 4: hope that it looks like a Canadian uniform. Yeah, I
- 10:40Speaker 4: love that. Team USA's uniforms are looking great too. It's
- 10:43Speaker 4: the blue, red and white, mostly blue New York Rangers
- 10:47Speaker 4: style Team USA.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Now don't say New York.
- 10:49Speaker 4: It makes me like it last when we call it
- 10:51Speaker 4: New York. It is, but it looks again.
- 10:53Speaker 3: It's kind of like Mikaela Schiffern hasn't won a gold
- 10:55Speaker 3: in eight years.
- 10:56Speaker 4: It's accurate, but it's misleading. Okay, we're not trying to
- 10:59Speaker 4: copy the Rangers here. I didn't know that you were
- 11:02Speaker 4: so anti Rangers. I thought you were just anti Avs.
- 11:04Speaker 4: At this point, I'm very anti abs.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I think I.
- 11:08Speaker 4: I think I need to come to the grips with
- 11:10Speaker 4: the fact that I'm just anti New York sports teams
- 11:12Speaker 4: except for the Knicks.
- 11:13Speaker 5: I'm kind of neutral on the Knicks now.
- 11:15Speaker 4: And the Nets. You're probably neutral because who cares about
- 11:18Speaker 4: the nets? The nets, I guess sort of count eight
- 11:24Speaker 4: seven seven three five three zero seven hundred in the
- 11:26Speaker 4: medal count. Right, Norway is dominating these Olympics, and they're
- 11:29Speaker 4: having a great time, But what is the most prestigious
- 11:34Speaker 4: the gold medal of all gold medals. I don't know
- 11:38Speaker 4: who would argue in the Summer Olympics that it's fastest man,
- 11:41Speaker 4: fastest woman alive hundred meter championship. Now, all the swimmers
- 11:45Speaker 4: out there would just be like, uh, it's actually a
- 11:47Speaker 4: heck of a lot harder to win that race in
- 11:50Speaker 4: the pool than it is on land. But but the
- 11:53Speaker 4: thing going against swimming is you don't know, there's not
- 11:59Speaker 4: a singular swim event that stands out to you, like
- 12:03Speaker 4: there is a singular track and field event that stands
- 12:06Speaker 4: out to you. Right with you talked about a hundred meters,
- 12:10Speaker 4: there's I couldn't even tell I know there's the relay.
- 12:13Speaker 4: They do relays and swim. I couldn't even tell you
- 12:15Speaker 4: accurately what the name of a swim event.
- 12:18Speaker 5: I just know that there's a bunch of them, and you.
- 12:20Speaker 4: Just know there's a lot of meters and there's several
- 12:23Speaker 4: there's the backstroke, there's the butterfly, different there's the medley,
- 12:26Speaker 4: there's the freestyle.
- 12:28Speaker 5: There's all these things, right.
- 12:29Speaker 4: And you've got I don't think it's just one relay.
- 12:31Speaker 4: I think it's a couple of different relays. So are
- 12:33Speaker 4: we deciding that in the pool Olympic medals get diluted?
- 12:38Speaker 4: See what I did there? Because there's too many dang
- 12:41Speaker 4: events because.
- 12:41Speaker 5: Of the chlorine. Oh no, because okay, the events.
- 12:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I feel like that's the case,
- 12:49Speaker 4: and there's not just one that's like, that's the fastest
- 12:52Speaker 4: person alive in water, right that we know is it's
- 12:57Speaker 4: like all of them collectively. If you won the most
- 12:59Speaker 4: medals and you get to say you're the fastest personal
- 13:02Speaker 4: life though hundred meters you like in track, it's like
- 13:06Speaker 4: that's the one. It doesn't matter what you do in
- 13:07Speaker 4: the other events. If you win that, you are the
- 13:09Speaker 4: fastest personal life. Okay, because we're we've derailed ourselves when
- 13:14Speaker 4: we're talking about this the most prestigious of all prestigious awards,
- 13:17Speaker 4: Like in in professional sports at America, there's also a hierarchy.
- 13:21Speaker 4: In my opinion, NFL MVP is not, for some reason,
- 13:28Speaker 4: as prestigious as I think it should be. Its NBA
- 13:33Speaker 4: MVP is a bigger deal than NFL MVP for some reason,
- 13:36Speaker 4: I think so. And I think it's ahead of the
- 13:39Speaker 4: NL and al MVPs in baseball, And yeah, well you've
- 13:42Speaker 4: got m vps in baseball, Cy Young award winners in baseball.
- 13:45Speaker 4: They're like, Cy Young might even be a bigger deal
- 13:48Speaker 4: in prestige then and then a the n LP for
- 13:52Speaker 4: whatever reason, it feels like and maybe it's because they're
- 13:55Speaker 4: it's like there's such a it's like quarterback pitcher. You're
- 14:00Speaker 4: such a singular position. You're right there in the middle. Derek,
- 14:03Speaker 4: you're the best at it.
- 14:04Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 14:04Speaker 4: Derek on the text line says, if notoriety is what
- 14:07Speaker 4: you're looking at, Heisman is what you want because they
- 14:09Speaker 4: are a very limited amount of people that get to
- 14:11Speaker 4: be a winner. The biggest honor is of gold medal
- 14:14Speaker 4: because of what it represents. Even some nonsports fans can
- 14:18Speaker 4: tell you who won gold medals, which is true. It's
- 14:20Speaker 4: more of a cultural phenomenon, a cultural event, and being
- 14:24Speaker 4: a Heisman Trophy winner I'm sure holds weight in most rooms.
- 14:29Speaker 4: You know, you move on ten years after twenty years
- 14:32Speaker 4: after you win a Heisman Trophy. It's still something on
- 14:35Speaker 4: your LinkedIn page. It's still something that people are like,
- 14:38Speaker 4: oh wow, Heisman Trophy winner. You're still getting people buy
- 14:40Speaker 4: you dinners and drinks and things like that. You probably
- 14:43Speaker 4: have speaking engagements because of it. But I don't know
- 14:47Speaker 4: that it translates for everyone because not everyone watches college football.
- 14:50Speaker 5: For a gold medal.
- 14:52Speaker 4: Even if people didn't watch you win the gold medal,
- 14:54Speaker 4: everyone knows what a gold medal means. So Tbusa and
- 14:59Speaker 4: Canada zero zero one shot on goal so far for
- 15:02Speaker 4: the Americans, or about three minutes into this thing, Gold
- 15:07Speaker 4: medal game USA versus Canada? Is is hockey? Is the
- 15:12Speaker 4: hockey gold medal men or women? Is that the most
- 15:15Speaker 4: prestigious of the winter It's hard, it's harder to put
- 15:18Speaker 4: my finger on what this is in Winter Olympics.
- 15:21Speaker 5: I just put the question out on Twitter.
- 15:22Speaker 4: In the Winter Olympics, what is the What is the
- 15:25Speaker 4: ultimate honor of all honors? Like the sports are so
- 15:28Speaker 4: widely ranging, and they're so vastly different, and let's be honest,
- 15:35Speaker 4: outside of hockey, none of them are year round interests.
- 15:39Speaker 4: In the summer Olympics, there are people who care about
- 15:42Speaker 4: cycling all year. They care about track all year, they
- 15:46Speaker 4: care about tennis, basketball, tennis, soccer. There's a bunch of
- 15:50Speaker 4: America like like Winter Olympic sports where you look at
- 15:53Speaker 4: it and you're just like, well, like, hockey is my thing.
- 15:55Speaker 4: I like hockey. And then you get into the real
- 16:00Speaker 4: niche stuff. There's people who are super into into skiing.
- 16:02Speaker 4: There's ski bums. Even if you're a ski bum, it
- 16:05Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily mean you like to sit down and watch
- 16:08Speaker 4: ski racing.
- 16:09Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 16:09Speaker 4: Yeah, skiing is an experienced sport. Bob sled I don't
- 16:13Speaker 4: even know if there's like a pro bob slid circuit.
- 16:15Speaker 4: I don't know how they qual. I don't know anything
- 16:17Speaker 4: about it. We know some of that build up, some
- 16:20Speaker 4: of that process for these other sports. So if you
- 16:22Speaker 4: have a suggestion eight seven seven three five three zero
- 16:25Speaker 4: seven hundred or at reloc sports, what is the most
- 16:29Speaker 4: prestigious of all Winter Olympic gold medals?
- 16:33Speaker 2: Figure skating? We care about it deeply.
- 16:36Speaker 4: For four nights every four years it's on primetime. You're
- 16:41Speaker 4: just like, well, look at these glamorous individuals with their
- 16:44Speaker 4: sparkly sequined outfits and they're so graceful, and then they
- 16:48Speaker 4: fall and you're just like, oh my gosh, how do
- 16:51Speaker 4: you mess up on a triple toe loop?
- 16:52Speaker 2: You stink?
- 16:54Speaker 4: You know, Like all of these things go with the
- 16:56Speaker 4: Olympic cycle. I also want to talk more like quad mortal,
- 17:03Speaker 4: quad blob. Maybe I want to talk about he is
- 17:08Speaker 4: a gold medalist in these in this year's Olympics. We'll
- 17:11Speaker 4: make that clear. I wanta Mikayla Schiffrin was like the
- 17:16Speaker 4: show on Primetime last night. Primetime Olympics, right, and we
- 17:18Speaker 4: knew because of the time disparity. We knew that she
- 17:21Speaker 4: had won a gold medal before we sat down and
- 17:24Speaker 4: watched it. But I still sat down and watched it
- 17:27Speaker 4: my two older daughters. I made sure that we all
- 17:29Speaker 4: sat down and watched it together. I'm becoming a weirdo
- 17:32Speaker 4: with that. I think it's important for my daughters to
- 17:35Speaker 4: see like female athletics success.
- 17:38Speaker 5: Also, also, is.
- 17:39Speaker 4: That very that sounds like very dad, head of the
- 17:41Speaker 4: household thing, like we're all sitting at we're gonna do this,
- 17:44Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna sit down and we're gonna watch
- 17:47Speaker 4: the United States of America claim a gold medal.
- 17:50Speaker 2: But I was. I was.
- 17:51Speaker 4: And this is why the Olympics are different than other sports, right,
- 17:56Speaker 4: This is where the human interest drives so much because
- 18:00Speaker 4: you're not passionate about the sport itself.
- 18:02Speaker 5: So what you decide that you want to care about are.
- 18:05Speaker 4: The the individuals, the talent, the stories behind their success
- 18:10Speaker 4: or their failures. There They're like no person came into
- 18:15Speaker 4: twenty twenty six thinking like I really hope we have
- 18:18Speaker 4: a couple of forty year old mothers win Mono Bob medals.
- 18:22Speaker 4: I hope we go gold bronze. But then you watch
- 18:25Speaker 4: it unfold and you're like, wait a second. We have
- 18:28Speaker 4: two women in the motto Bob, the individual bob sled
- 18:32Speaker 4: event that are mothers either pushing forty or over forty
- 18:38Speaker 4: with their kids, Like they're at the Olympic Games, having
- 18:41Speaker 4: to change diapers and do all that stuff, and they're
- 18:43Speaker 4: winning medals, and suddenly you care about that story. Well,
- 18:47Speaker 4: Mikayla Schiffern has been a celebrity, an Olympic celebrity, and
- 18:51Speaker 4: you guys know exactly what that means, right. It's kind
- 18:54Speaker 4: of like Simone Biles. It's kind of like Michael Phelps.
- 18:57Speaker 4: It's these people that you realize, how asked by the way,
- 19:01Speaker 4: might might have the all around title, might might be
- 19:06Speaker 4: competing with the one hundred meter title. You're absolutely right,
- 19:10Speaker 4: But like, if there's a hierarchy, it might be the
- 19:13Speaker 4: sprinting events in track. If you had to put Brno
- 19:17Speaker 4: down the four, it's like the sprinting events in track gymnastics.
- 19:24Speaker 4: I guess we'd have to decide which like the individual
- 19:28Speaker 4: freestyle medley, or maybe maybe we care more about relay
- 19:31Speaker 4: and we'd have to decide which swimming event is the
- 19:34Speaker 4: biggest swimming event, and I don't even know if there
- 19:36Speaker 4: is a number four in the Summer Olympics, it's it.
- 19:39Speaker 4: I mean, I would think that it's men's basketball. But
- 19:42Speaker 4: Mikayla Schiffrin is this internet slash Olympics celebrity, right and
- 19:51Speaker 4: the human interest piece of her story which a lot
- 19:54Speaker 4: of people get wrapped up in because you know, she's
- 19:58Speaker 4: she's got a bunch of endorsement contract, she's a beautiful
- 20:01Speaker 4: human and she's, you know, was very successful as a teenager,
- 20:05Speaker 4: which we always like this about the Vunderkins story in sports.
- 20:10Speaker 4: There was a moment yesterday where I did not want
- 20:15Speaker 4: I wanted the human interest focus. I wanted the perform
- 20:22Speaker 4: for your country and represent the United States, and I
- 20:26Speaker 4: wanted it all to go away. And that tells you
- 20:29Speaker 4: how great the storytelling is at the Olympics, and what
- 20:32Speaker 4: a wonderful job the NBC broadcast did. And I suppose
- 20:36Speaker 4: because I was watching it in primetime, it might have
- 20:38Speaker 4: looked a little bit different on that than it did live.
- 20:41Speaker 4: But you got to give credit to everyone involved. There
- 20:45Speaker 4: was I wanted the camera to be off of Mikhayela
- 20:49Speaker 4: schifferin after she started talking about the reason she was emotional,
- 20:54Speaker 4: and I wanted to I'm becoming a huge softie. I
- 20:57Speaker 4: wanted to cut away. I wanted to not talk about her.
- 21:03Speaker 4: I want it. It was very obvious that she won
- 21:08Speaker 4: that gold medal. It was kind of a redemption story
- 21:10Speaker 4: for her. The reaction, the emotional reaction, whether it's elation
- 21:17Speaker 4: or whatever, was extremely delayed. And then they did this
- 21:22Speaker 4: thing where they zoomed in on her and they super
- 21:25Speaker 4: slow mode. She wasn't talking to anybody, she was talking
- 21:29Speaker 4: to herself. They super slow mode and tried to lip
- 21:33Speaker 4: read what she was saying and what the broadcast to do.
- 21:35Speaker 4: She was saying was dad. And it broke my heart
- 21:41Speaker 4: watching this thing. It made me so sad, in like
- 21:46Speaker 4: a triumphant, melancholy sad way. It like dare I admit
- 21:52Speaker 4: I got super tear eyed, probably because I'm a dad
- 21:55Speaker 4: of daughters. And the broadcast again had done a great
- 21:59Speaker 4: job talking about how she unexpectedly lost her father a
- 22:04Speaker 4: few years ago, and then in the post race interview,
- 22:10Speaker 4: she talked about how she was afraid of the moments
- 22:13Speaker 4: of winning.
- 22:15Speaker 5: She talked about how hard it was for her to.
- 22:19Speaker 4: Anticipate winning and be excited about winning and having that
- 22:23Speaker 4: moment because a lot of these things and I'm paraphrasing
- 22:29Speaker 4: rather than directly quoting, because a lot of these things
- 22:31Speaker 4: for her are first without her dad. And that was again,
- 22:39Speaker 4: it's such beautiful storytelling. They did such a great job
- 22:43Speaker 4: with it, and they did I think, a very respectful
- 22:46Speaker 4: job of it.
- 22:47Speaker 2: But gosh, dang man, that was heavy.
- 22:52Speaker 4: In a way that is not negative and not like
- 22:55Speaker 4: me trying to be critical of what they were doing.
- 22:58Speaker 5: It's quite the opposite.
- 23:00Speaker 4: But I wanted to not be intruding on that moment
- 23:05Speaker 4: for her, even as I also wanted to know exactly
- 23:09Speaker 4: what the situation was and exactly what her emotions were.
- 23:15Speaker 2: Right that is.
- 23:16Speaker 4: I mean, people probably don't fully realize how emmys are
- 23:21Speaker 4: handed out and how like certain broadcasts will be given
- 23:24Speaker 4: like like that show has been given an award or whatever,
- 23:28Speaker 4: and live television is a lot harder to award and
- 23:31Speaker 4: to break down then some other stuff that you got
- 23:35Speaker 4: in like scripted television shows in that.
- 23:38Speaker 5: But that for me was like the.
- 23:40Speaker 4: Most award worthy Olympic moment we've seen from a broadcasting perspective,
- 23:46Speaker 4: have we seen as impressive athletic feats. Probably yes, sure,
- 23:50Speaker 4: can't really tell you how hard it is to win
- 23:52Speaker 4: a gold medal in Swalom, have no idea. Was it
- 23:54Speaker 4: great to see her get back on top of a podium, wonderful, yes.
- 23:58Speaker 4: But the most impactful, dramatic, compelling part of that was
- 24:07Speaker 4: after she won the race, the five or six minutes
- 24:12Speaker 4: of reaction and getting her thoughts on her reaction, and
- 24:15Speaker 4: you could tell it wasn't it didn't seem like emotionally
- 24:20Speaker 4: difficult for her to talk to the reporter. It seemed
- 24:22Speaker 4: like intellectually difficult for her to put into words exactly
- 24:27Speaker 4: how she was feeling and what she was feeling, because
- 24:30Speaker 4: you know, it was it was like that massive of
- 24:34Speaker 4: a moment in her life juxtaposed against something that she
- 24:39Speaker 4: You know, most Olympians, it's the dream come true.
- 24:43Speaker 2: It's different if.
- 24:43Speaker 4: You've won gold medals before, I assume, then if you've
- 24:46Speaker 4: achieved that goal for the first time. And she was
- 24:51Speaker 4: reflecting on the fact that this is a different experience
- 24:54Speaker 4: for me now than when I won gold medals when
- 24:56Speaker 4: I'm eighteen years old or whatever, you know, from eight
- 25:00Speaker 4: years ago, when my life was different. When the people
- 25:03Speaker 4: that are going to be waiting for me to congratulate me.
- 25:07Speaker 4: Somewhat important is not going to be there. And they're
- 25:09Speaker 4: showing the on the broadcast. They're showing like the footage
- 25:13Speaker 4: of her when she's four years old on skis for
- 25:16Speaker 4: the first time and all that stuff, and they're telling you, yeah,
- 25:20Speaker 4: her dad put her on skis and look what it's
- 25:22Speaker 4: done for her life. And then she's like, you're seeing
- 25:25Speaker 4: this moment where she's seemingly I mean, she told the reporter,
- 25:29Speaker 4: I was thinking of my dad. I wanted to talk
- 25:31Speaker 4: to my dad, and I was just like, I'm sitting
- 25:33Speaker 4: next to my wife.
- 25:34Speaker 2: She looks over him, and she was like, what's wrong
- 25:36Speaker 2: with you?
- 25:38Speaker 5: Do you know what's going on on the TV right now?
- 25:40Speaker 5: That's what's wrong with that?
- 25:41Speaker 6: Is?
- 25:41Speaker 4: I mean, that is such that like when I watch sports,
- 25:46Speaker 4: even though I'm in sports broadcasting, when I watch sports,
- 25:48Speaker 4: I watch it for the sport. I'm not watching it
- 25:51Speaker 4: to hear another play by play person. I'm not watching
- 25:54Speaker 4: it for the sideline reporter. I'm not watching this USA
- 25:57Speaker 4: Canada gold medal game on mute because I'm interested in
- 26:01Speaker 4: the camera work. I'm watching sports for the sport, for
- 26:05Speaker 4: the competition. Olympics are a rare exception to that. They
- 26:09Speaker 4: pull you out of that because I don't know. I
- 26:12Speaker 4: cannot tell you if the slalom skiing was good or bad.
- 26:16Speaker 4: I can't tell you if her time she'd beat everyone
- 26:20Speaker 4: by like a second and a half. I can't tell
- 26:22Speaker 4: you how I magnificent that is, or how pedestrian that
- 26:27Speaker 4: is or whatever. But those those few minutes after she
- 26:32Speaker 4: won the gold and had that redemption story that was
- 26:38Speaker 4: that was like a three hour movie for me of
- 26:41Speaker 4: the emotional roller coaster, and it just if you haven't
- 26:45Speaker 4: watched it, find it, especially if you're a parent, especially
- 26:49Speaker 4: if you're a dad with daughters.
- 26:51Speaker 5: Find it.
- 26:52Speaker 4: And if you're a sensitive Sally like me, you might
- 26:55Speaker 4: end up with some waterworks. Yeah, I'll just say I'll
- 27:00Speaker 4: say small thing with this too. I unfortunately can relate
- 27:06Speaker 4: in a lot of ways because I've lost both my parents,
- 27:10Speaker 4: and I can't relate in that being a world class
- 27:13Speaker 4: athlete and winning and what that's like. But just having
- 27:19Speaker 4: having our first child, I didn't have like anticipation of like,
- 27:25Speaker 4: what's what's this going to be like? Not being able
- 27:27Speaker 4: to share him with them, But I did afterwards have
- 27:32Speaker 4: this like profound feeling of what if. Certainly it was
- 27:39Speaker 4: certainly a form of depression that I did not anticipate
- 27:43Speaker 4: because because I'm like, I'm seeing my in laws having
- 27:50Speaker 4: such a great experience being able to share our child
- 27:53Speaker 4: with them grandparents and aunts.
- 27:55Speaker 5: And uncles, and.
- 28:01Speaker 4: Being like, I without realizing it, being like I'm not.
- 28:05Speaker 4: I'm I should be over the moon right now, but
- 28:07Speaker 4: I'm feeling I'm feeling pretty sad that I can't do
- 28:11Speaker 4: this with my own family right So.
- 28:15Speaker 5: It really is a.
- 28:18Speaker 4: It really is something, And I totally get her trying
- 28:22Speaker 4: to choose her words carefully in that in that time,
- 28:25Speaker 4: because it's like, it's really hard to put into words,
- 28:28Speaker 4: how do you articulate, especially in the moment, like you're
- 28:32Speaker 4: you're still breathing hard from the exertion of the run,
- 28:35Speaker 4: it's still sinking in. There's thousands of people around, and
- 28:38Speaker 4: then you like, I don't know how well, I don't
- 28:40Speaker 4: know what the chemistry's like between these correspondent reporters and
- 28:44Speaker 4: the athletes themselves. I have no idea what kind of relationship,
- 28:47Speaker 4: but it could be like a a stranger it's walking
- 28:51Speaker 4: up to you and just being like, hey, how do
- 28:53Speaker 4: you feel about this like deep intimate detail of your
- 28:56Speaker 4: life now crashing into your Olympic success and you put
- 29:00Speaker 4: a microphone for it. Was just like, that is high drama.
- 29:03Speaker 4: That is compelling television. That was and I think MICHAELA
- 29:07Speaker 4: handled it nearly perfectly. I think that the broadcast team
- 29:10Speaker 4: did the same thing. And I rarely feel that way
- 29:14Speaker 4: if I'm even noticing that kind of stuff, I'm rarely
- 29:16Speaker 4: noticing of it, noticing it because it is so dang great. Yeah,
- 29:21Speaker 4: and it was, Yeah, and I I didn't I didn't
- 29:28Speaker 4: know that was part of her story. So yeah, it's
- 29:34Speaker 4: I think for someone like me and everyone who's who's
- 29:37Speaker 4: lost parents, whether you're a world class athlete or not,
- 29:40Speaker 4: that really touches you. And even if you haven't, like
- 29:42Speaker 4: you said, there's different reasons why that would still touch
- 29:45Speaker 4: you like it's you.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:48Speaker 5: So yeah, this is that's what's great about the Olympics.
- 29:51Speaker 4: It's beyond what's compelling, is beyond the fact that she
- 29:55Speaker 4: hadn't won in two Olympic cycles. Absolutely right, and that's
- 29:59Speaker 4: it's awesome that we that she shared was willing to
- 30:03Speaker 4: share that moment with us, and other sports do a
- 30:07Speaker 4: great job trying to find the human interest pieces as well.
- 30:11Speaker 4: We're coming off a year where Indiana, of all teams,
- 30:14Speaker 4: won a national championship, and the Fernando Mendoza like the
- 30:17Speaker 4: family story of his mom with MS like, they did
- 30:20Speaker 4: a really really good job of all that, but it's
- 30:23Speaker 4: not the thing that carries the whole story, right because
- 30:26Speaker 4: it's football, and we know football, and we care about football,
- 30:29Speaker 4: and we would be impressed with Fernanda Mendoza even if
- 30:32Speaker 4: he was an absolute turd of a human being, because
- 30:34Speaker 4: he's a good football player. And in the Olympics you
- 30:37Speaker 4: don't have that benefit. Maybe with hockey you do, and
- 30:41Speaker 4: I guess potentially with track runners you do. Because we
- 30:44Speaker 4: can recognize what's fast. When it comes to these sports
- 30:47Speaker 4: that we don't know as much about, we don't care
- 30:49Speaker 4: as much about every day of our lives, the human
- 30:52Speaker 4: interest piece becomes so valuable.
- 30:54Speaker 5: I mean, the figure skating thing.
- 30:56Speaker 4: You got scandal on the ice dancing, and you got
- 30:59Speaker 4: pairs that have broken up for controversial reasons and all
- 31:02Speaker 4: that stuff.
- 31:03Speaker 5: That's why you care that France won, not because.
- 31:06Speaker 4: Well maybe just because you tuned in and you saw
- 31:08Speaker 4: what those French people looked like, and you're like Okay,
- 31:10Speaker 4: I care about that now. Anyway, we got lots to
- 31:14Speaker 4: talk about today. Gordia Chaz is here in studio with us.
- 31:17Speaker 4: We'll get into some NBA stuff. We'll get into some
- 31:21Speaker 4: college troops with Gordy as well, because man, the Big
- 31:23Speaker 4: twelve Conference continues to be absolutely nuts. Sean o'connells Show
- 31:27Speaker 4: getting started on a Thursday. It's ESPN seven hundred and
- 31:30Speaker 4: ninety two one FM.
- 31:35Speaker 1: He sounds Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz
- 31:38Speaker 1: with former Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more
- 31:42Speaker 1: about the NBA than any of us will ever know.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Let's not get crazy.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Come for the hoops talk, stay for it's the list
- 31:48Speaker 1: of the day. The list today, here's oc with basketball.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Sob on Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Follow the shan All.
- 32:00Speaker 4: The show is drought to you today and every day
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- 32:04Speaker 4: a chance between now and the end of this game,
- 32:07Speaker 4: get down there, grab some lunch, grab a beverage, adult
- 32:10Speaker 4: or otherwise. Seventeen seventeen South main watch this US women's
- 32:15Speaker 4: hockey team against team Canada and just enjoy yourself at
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- 32:25Speaker 4: Chasa here in studio with us, brought to you by
- 32:28Speaker 4: a friends over at Aladdin Industries. Gordy welcome, How are you, sir?
- 32:32Speaker 2: Showing I'm doing well? Thank you.
- 32:35Speaker 4: Before we get to any basketball discussion, James and I
- 32:38Speaker 4: are trying to decide. We're trying to decide of the
- 32:41Speaker 4: Winter Olympic gold medals, which is the most prestigious. We
- 32:44Speaker 4: decided that in the Summer Games, you know, fastest man,
- 32:48Speaker 4: fastest woman on the planet, that's probably up there, maybe gymnastics,
- 32:51Speaker 4: all around. In the Winter Olympics, is there a gold
- 32:55Speaker 4: medal that stands out above all others?
- 33:00Speaker 2: Hockey? Okay, that's hockey.
- 33:02Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Because the team sport you mentionedly for
- 33:06Speaker 7: I said you coming in, is that all these other
- 33:09Speaker 7: sports are individual and most people unless you're officiado of
- 33:14Speaker 7: that sport, don't understand totally of it. Sure, but in
- 33:17Speaker 7: the Summer Olympics they absolutely do. Also in the Summer Olympics, besides,
- 33:21Speaker 7: the fastest person in the world, male or female is
- 33:24Speaker 7: also the marathon.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Yeah, like who wins the marathon?
- 33:28Speaker 7: And the swimming like who's the fastest swimmers in the world,
- 33:32Speaker 7: only different events because everyone can basically can swim or
- 33:35Speaker 7: try to swim, and so that's why it's more really
- 33:38Speaker 7: more easy to relate to.
- 33:40Speaker 4: Love some Olympics still zero zero by the way, in
- 33:44Speaker 4: the women's hockey gold medal game between USA and Canada.
- 33:48Speaker 5: All right, we've.
- 33:49Speaker 7: Shown also a long time ago in nineteen eightyen was
- 33:52Speaker 7: when the Miracle on ice. Yes, that was when really
- 33:55Speaker 7: again America's consciousness understood about the Olympics again, and it
- 34:00Speaker 7: was pep forget that they beat the Russia.
- 34:04Speaker 2: It was they beat Russia.
- 34:05Speaker 7: USA b Russia to college players, beat the professional team
- 34:08Speaker 7: of Russia basically nineteen eighty and then had to beat
- 34:11Speaker 7: Sweden to win the goal. So that was I was
- 34:13Speaker 7: at the semi finals to beat Russia.
- 34:15Speaker 4: And that was such an interesting time where I mean, obviously,
- 34:19Speaker 4: the same thing is happening at these Milan Olympics, where
- 34:22Speaker 4: the game is played and then if you want, you
- 34:24Speaker 4: could watch the primetime replay of it or whatever. That
- 34:31Speaker 4: huge upset victory no one in the United States saw
- 34:35Speaker 4: till the next day. Basically that's correct, yes, and the
- 34:40Speaker 4: Heroics had already unfolded, and then whatever it was twenty
- 34:43Speaker 4: hours later. It became a thing in the United States
- 34:46Speaker 4: of America, and obviously Cold War tensions all those times
- 34:49Speaker 4: ruin the I mean, it's well documented.
- 34:52Speaker 5: There's a feature film about it, but it's one of
- 34:55Speaker 5: those things.
- 34:56Speaker 4: It's like a rewatchable movie, Gordy, where you hear that story,
- 34:59Speaker 4: you read something about that miracle team, and even though
- 35:03Speaker 4: you already know it, you want to hear it again,
- 35:05Speaker 4: you want to read it again, you want to listen
- 35:07Speaker 4: to it again very much.
- 35:08Speaker 7: It's hard to believe for the younger listeners right now,
- 35:11Speaker 7: is that showings alluding to that game was shown it
- 35:15Speaker 7: half a day later, only second to the NBA when
- 35:19Speaker 7: the when NBA Finals in nineteen eighty, it weren't shown live.
- 35:24Speaker 7: So the classic game in nineteen eighty Game six, where
- 35:28Speaker 7: young rookie Irvin Magic Johnson was playing center because Kream
- 35:33Speaker 7: Abdul Jabbar of the Lakers had a sprained ankle and
- 35:35Speaker 7: they're playing against the Philadelphia seventy six is and at
- 35:39Speaker 7: that time there was CBS Sports doing the NBA. They
- 35:42Speaker 7: didn't want to cut into the local eleven o'clock news
- 35:45Speaker 7: because of the revenue, so they waited until the game
- 35:48Speaker 7: was over and then delayed for literally three hours to
- 35:51Speaker 7: show it eleven thirty at night back east. So everyone
- 35:55Speaker 7: knew who won the game, but it wasn't shown. That's
- 35:58Speaker 7: how much advanced technology we have now. Now it's every
- 36:03Speaker 7: game is shown absolutely live and everybody knows the score
- 36:07Speaker 7: as the second's going on each day.
- 36:09Speaker 2: It's amazing.
- 36:10Speaker 4: Only one returning player from that on that nineteen eighty roster.
- 36:14Speaker 4: By the way, nineteen seventy six, Buzz Schneider was on
- 36:17Speaker 4: the team. He was the only guy who came back.
- 36:19Speaker 4: It was all these young kids. Go watch the movie.
- 36:21Speaker 4: Just refresh yourself. It was awesome.
- 36:24Speaker 5: All right, let's get into some NBA hoops right now.
- 36:26Speaker 4: We talked about this on Tuesday with the NBA All
- 36:30Speaker 4: Star weekend. Now in the rear view, there's a renewed focus.
- 36:35Speaker 4: There might be some adjustments on your plans with your
- 36:38Speaker 4: roster or your your practice schedule, whatever, how do you
- 36:43Speaker 4: manage the end of the season, specifically if you're the
- 36:45Speaker 4: Utah Jazz.
- 36:46Speaker 7: Gordy Well for the Jazz right now hits some priorities
- 36:49Speaker 7: as far as both on the court and also as
- 36:53Speaker 7: far as management trying to see how it plays out.
- 36:57Speaker 7: One they've got it from on the court. They've got
- 37:00Speaker 7: to improve their defensive accountability as they go forward. So
- 37:05Speaker 7: the last twenty six games of the season focusing on
- 37:09Speaker 7: defense and besides technique, but also accountability. The second thing,
- 37:14Speaker 7: and that starts with also on ball defense one on
- 37:18Speaker 7: one part of that defensively improvement, challenging three point line.
- 37:24Speaker 7: The third part of that would be transition d It
- 37:26Speaker 7: starts with shot selection and it also is involved with
- 37:30Speaker 7: live ball turnovers. So the Jazz can improve their defense
- 37:34Speaker 7: the last twenty six games to go forward for next
- 37:36Speaker 7: season because next year, the Jazz have some good players
- 37:40Speaker 7: on their roster right now, and with Jaron Jackson and
- 37:43Speaker 7: with walcomekes Comb back next year, if the Jazz do
- 37:46Speaker 7: re sign him, he's a secret free agent right now,
- 37:48Speaker 7: the Jazz will be right there. As far as you know,
- 37:51Speaker 7: Batlan fighting minimum showing to get into the playing tournament,
- 37:55Speaker 7: if not into the playoffs, it's possible. Next part about
- 37:58Speaker 7: that play a space through his game errors. He's one
- 38:02Speaker 7: of the friend the franchise foundational pieces. He's only nineteen
- 38:06Speaker 7: years old. So these has a few bad plays, keep
- 38:09Speaker 7: playing and you might take him out for a minute
- 38:11Speaker 7: or two, try to counsel him, but put him back
- 38:14Speaker 7: in the game because that guy has got talent. Also
- 38:18Speaker 7: next to the next part of that on the court,
- 38:20Speaker 7: be conscious of pairing Isaiah Kaliah and Kiante Dee George
- 38:24Speaker 7: together all right as far as floor minutes. So Caante
- 38:29Speaker 7: is a guard. He can score the ball and he
- 38:31Speaker 7: can pass it and he's he's a tremendous talent. And
- 38:36Speaker 7: Isaiah Kalia is a pass happy point guard. So try
- 38:40Speaker 7: to make them besties where both of them are playing
- 38:43Speaker 7: together and locks up be some of the game, and
- 38:46Speaker 7: then keep developing the bench. Bryce Senserba, Vince Williams and
- 38:51Speaker 7: Kyle Philipowski. Those guys are bench contributors, so try to
- 38:57Speaker 7: play them as a unit. They get used to playing.
- 39:01Speaker 7: Whoever's on the team next year. Those three guys, their
- 39:04Speaker 7: contracts are absolutely a team friendly and the old they
- 39:07Speaker 7: all value and their value is coming off the bench goes.
- 39:10Speaker 2: All three have a certain skill that they have.
- 39:14Speaker 7: So for example, Philipowski, that guy hustles, he plays hard,
- 39:18Speaker 7: bright sense of ball when he has the ball. If
- 39:20Speaker 7: you have a good feeling he's this year, is this
- 39:23Speaker 7: team's generation right now of Jordan Clarkson he can score
- 39:27Speaker 7: the ball, and Vince Williams he's like a utility guy,
- 39:30Speaker 7: almost like Joe Ingles type without the jump shot though
- 39:34Speaker 7: right now, but as far as versatility of passing it.
- 39:37Speaker 2: So that'sh be the Jazz highest priorities right now. And
- 39:40Speaker 2: if you do.
- 39:41Speaker 7: That, they're going to improve next season by getting ready
- 39:45Speaker 7: for it the less one third of the season. They
- 39:48Speaker 7: want to protect their pick this year, absolutely, so they
- 39:52Speaker 7: want to go from they want to finish eight or lower.
- 39:57Speaker 4: Okay, So with that in mind, and that oddly, strangely
- 40:00Speaker 4: has to be kind of your number one priority even
- 40:02Speaker 4: as you're trying to do all this other stuff, you
- 40:05Speaker 4: simply cannot afford to give that pick away, especially because
- 40:08Speaker 4: it would convey to Oklahoma City, who's already going to
- 40:11Speaker 4: be a problem for you for the foreseeable future. So
- 40:14Speaker 4: how delicate is the balance of trying to do all
- 40:18Speaker 4: the things that you just described while also you know,
- 40:21Speaker 4: losing games in a gentlemanly fashioned.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Very delicate?
- 40:27Speaker 7: Yes, So the tempo of the game, the rhythm, the
- 40:31Speaker 7: flow of the contest, that's when you have to decide
- 40:36Speaker 7: by instincts, by taking someone out or putting someone in
- 40:40Speaker 7: that you want to be competitive, but you really want
- 40:44Speaker 7: to protect that pick. And so that's just going to
- 40:47Speaker 7: be interesting. How do you do it by people very
- 40:50Speaker 7: conscious on the sideline addressing the head coach that think
- 40:54Speaker 7: about taking so and so out or putting so and
- 40:56Speaker 7: so in. I have a real problem with the NBA
- 40:58Speaker 7: of finding the Jazz dred thousand dollars. You know, I
- 41:02Speaker 7: was done last week because the team's right now, every
- 41:05Speaker 7: team is going through it that's trying to stay in
- 41:07Speaker 7: the lottery. We mentioned he's the teams. There's eight teams
- 41:12Speaker 7: and maybe in nineteen Wizards, Pacers, Nets, Grizzlies, MAVs, Jazz, Pelicans,
- 41:18Speaker 7: and Kings and maybe the Bucks. Maybe the Bucks could
- 41:23Speaker 7: because of be honest, all none of those teams. They're
- 41:26Speaker 7: trying to stay in the lottery and improve their chances
- 41:30Speaker 7: of getting high draft picks. So that's the balancing act
- 41:33Speaker 7: right now. And you mentioned for about we mentioned their
- 41:36Speaker 7: day Sean, you and I about Mark Cuban where he
- 41:39Speaker 7: said that he has no problem with the team quote.
- 41:43Speaker 7: The expression is tanking and it's ironically because the maps
- 41:46Speaker 7: right now, Mark Cuban still owns the Maps of twenty
- 41:49Speaker 7: seventh sent interests. He sold the rest of it to
- 41:52Speaker 7: the to the to the family that owns Casara Casino
- 41:57Speaker 7: Corporation Worldwide. And Maps right now have lost nine of
- 42:01Speaker 7: the row. And the Kings Sewan have lost fourteen games
- 42:04Speaker 7: in a row.
- 42:05Speaker 4: And they just shut down Levine and Sabonis with real
- 42:11Speaker 4: injuries though with injuries surgeries.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Yeah, no they have.
- 42:14Speaker 4: So your two best players, two highest paid players, are
- 42:17Speaker 4: shut down, correct, Kings.
- 42:18Speaker 7: And so they the Kings right now, they're they're they're
- 42:21Speaker 7: very conscious of right now the draft and this draft
- 42:25Speaker 7: should be very deep. Who's the best guy in the draft?
- 42:28Speaker 7: Will I'll take it about three years from now when
- 42:29Speaker 7: they're in the NBA.
- 42:31Speaker 5: And I mean that that's it makes sense.
- 42:34Speaker 2: It's it's really the truth.
- 42:35Speaker 7: For example, Cooper Flegg last year was by far the
- 42:38Speaker 7: number one player in the in the draft. Okay, so
- 42:42Speaker 7: now he goes to the Dallas Mavericks. I know Cyrie Irving,
- 42:45Speaker 7: who's the All Star player, didn't play the whole season.
- 42:49Speaker 2: But Cooper Flegg, and.
- 42:50Speaker 7: If he asks him right now with truth serum, he
- 42:52Speaker 7: can't believe how good the other guys in the NBA are,
- 42:55Speaker 7: even though he knows about it, his whole thing. He
- 42:57Speaker 7: can't believe it how good the other guys are. And
- 42:59Speaker 7: that's why that happens. It's who you play against. So
- 43:02Speaker 7: in Jazz basketball long term, that the Jazz have a
- 43:06Speaker 7: tough division. The Jazz right now a one and non
- 43:09Speaker 7: divisional play. So here's the question showing just philosophically that
- 43:13Speaker 7: the Jazz have to find somebody for the next on
- 43:17Speaker 7: their roster right now, but also if not trade or
- 43:20Speaker 7: developed to play against Nikolai Jokic for the next will
- 43:24Speaker 7: say four years where Yokist is prime, and that the
- 43:27Speaker 7: Jazz have to find somebody that could guard Jamal Murray
- 43:30Speaker 7: in his prime the t Wolves. Okay, here's the question philosophically,
- 43:35Speaker 7: can Ace Bailly slow down the tvOS perimeter guys as
- 43:40Speaker 7: far as in the game, meaning Anthony Edwards because that's
- 43:43Speaker 7: its same age group, Yeah, twenty something, And so the
- 43:47Speaker 7: answer is the Jazz they're hopeful that Ace can, but
- 43:51Speaker 7: if not, they have to get someone else to help that.
- 43:53Speaker 7: Maybe it's Vince Williams for eleven minutes in that game
- 43:55Speaker 7: they try to slow him down, But that it's who
- 43:57Speaker 7: you play against in the NBA. It's not well, we're
- 44:00Speaker 7: going to get better our team. That's true, but you
- 44:03Speaker 7: have to understand that the other guys might not cooperate when.
- 44:06Speaker 4: You start framing the conversation about jazz improvement in that way.
- 44:11Speaker 4: That's where it gets so sobering to know that, like, yeah, man,
- 44:14Speaker 4: you've got a really nice thing going on. You just
- 44:16Speaker 4: you just acquired a defensive mind at All Star, Right,
- 44:19Speaker 4: you have these these nice little pieces, and then you
- 44:22Speaker 4: look around at what other teams have and the superstar
- 44:24Speaker 4: talent that other teams have, and it gets dicey, gets terrifying.
- 44:28Speaker 7: So, for example, with Jared Jackson off the surgery next season,
- 44:32Speaker 7: he's a good player, all right, So the question is
- 44:35Speaker 7: can he slow down Victor wemby Amber The Jets paid
- 44:38Speaker 7: him four times a year. Can he can he slow
- 44:41Speaker 7: him down and outplay him both on defense and offense
- 44:45Speaker 7: three or four times?
- 44:46Speaker 2: That's the question philosophically.
- 44:48Speaker 3: When you're asking that about Victor Webbin Yamo, it's like
- 44:52Speaker 3: makes you want to throw your hands up and say, well, no,
- 44:54Speaker 3: that's you can't.
- 44:55Speaker 2: But that's that's not an option in this.
- 44:57Speaker 7: Not an option exactly right, whether it's in individual one
- 45:00Speaker 7: on one prideful defense or yourself offensively scoring the ball
- 45:05Speaker 7: where you're really your aggressor that night against wen Byamba.
- 45:09Speaker 7: And then also schematically and if you're struggling that game,
- 45:13Speaker 7: can you trusted sidekick on the court. Can he outplay
- 45:16Speaker 7: his position to give give you organized help so that
- 45:20Speaker 7: we as a group, we as a front court, we
- 45:22Speaker 7: as a backcourt, we all played that team on the
- 45:25Speaker 7: road and we beat them by one, and that's all
- 45:27Speaker 7: it matters. I always say for decades, kill them by one.
- 45:30Speaker 7: Because you won the game, you move on. So it's
- 45:33Speaker 7: way beyond just one player. You need trusted sidekicks to
- 45:37Speaker 7: help you be successful.
- 45:39Speaker 5: Zero zero.
- 45:40Speaker 4: At the first intermission, USA versus Canada and the gold
- 45:43Speaker 4: medal game, the USA will start the second period with
- 45:46Speaker 4: about a minute forty five of a power play, so
- 45:51Speaker 4: advantage to begin the second period for Team USA.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Gordy Seun.
- 45:56Speaker 7: But I have a thing about the you and I
- 45:59Speaker 7: talked about it depth the other day. But I thought
- 46:01Speaker 7: about this and I read it online, so it's not original,
- 46:05Speaker 7: but I edited to it.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Where how can the.
- 46:08Speaker 7: The viewership was great for the All Star Weekend by NBC.
- 46:11Speaker 7: It was the best numbers since fifteen years ago. So
- 46:15Speaker 7: it's good, yes, So how can they make it even better?
- 46:18Speaker 7: And a potential one on one tournament or two on
- 46:22Speaker 7: two tournament. So I had the liberty where I have
- 46:25Speaker 7: my own ESPN seven one hundred led by yours truly,
- 46:30Speaker 7: Sean O'Connell and also James Peterson. This is our potential
- 46:34Speaker 7: tournament for the NBA two on two because most one
- 46:39Speaker 7: on one players in the All Star they don't want
- 46:41Speaker 7: to be embarrassed or someone beat them.
- 46:43Speaker 2: This is two on two.
- 46:44Speaker 4: Okay, that's what's coming. We're gonna take a quick break.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Gordy's gonna come back. He's giving us his two on
- 46:49Speaker 4: two matchups to improve NBA All Star weekend. And if
- 46:52Speaker 4: one of those matchups is not me and Gordy, I'm
- 46:55Speaker 4: gonna be really upset. Shato O'Connell show with Gordy Chiasa.
- 46:58Speaker 4: We got them for another forty minutes or so. It's
- 47:00Speaker 4: ESPN seven hundred ninety two one FM.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Tune to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Chevrolet
- 47:12Speaker 1: Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one AFM.
- 47:26Speaker 4: S Don O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred ninety two one
- 47:28Speaker 4: FM Gordy Chaser here in studio with us USA Canada
- 47:34Speaker 4: gold medal game and the women's hockey situation still zero
- 47:37Speaker 4: zero after one USA starts period number two on the
- 47:42Speaker 4: Power Play, Gordy Chiasa. We did talk on Tuesday about
- 47:47Speaker 4: the improved NBA All Star Weekend, the different format uh
- 47:50Speaker 4: certain players forcing some buy in from everyone else, everyone
- 47:54Speaker 4: being competitive. We're gonna get to more of that in
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- 49:03Speaker 4: not be so impolite as to just make Gordy stand
- 49:05Speaker 4: here to smell this delicious food without eating any Right, Cordi,
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- 49:10Speaker 2: Oh very much. I do appreciate the offer, but thank you.
- 49:14Speaker 4: But Gordy's a man of refined taste and he's not
- 49:17Speaker 4: gonna He's not gonna have fries.
- 49:20Speaker 5: Right after his breakfast.
- 49:21Speaker 4: All right, Gordy, the improved NBA All Star Weekend, I
- 49:26Speaker 4: think it's safe to call it that is not a
- 49:28Speaker 4: finished product by any means. The NBA still wants to
- 49:31Speaker 4: see what else they could add to draw viewers, draw interest,
- 49:35Speaker 4: spark new viewers and interest, and a one on one
- 49:39Speaker 4: or two on two tournament has been one of the
- 49:42Speaker 4: things proposed. First of all, what do you think.
- 49:44Speaker 2: Of this great idea? Players?
- 49:46Speaker 7: Love it, and it'll be very highly competitive. So here's
- 49:49Speaker 7: what I thought about no tea. Here's some of the
- 49:52Speaker 7: just the criteria. No teammates played together, so you can't play. Example,
- 49:57Speaker 7: Jamal Murray and Nikolai Jogurch couldn't play as a a
- 50:00Speaker 7: pair in the two on two tournament. Each player has
- 50:06Speaker 7: to be from the East and a Western conference, So
- 50:08Speaker 7: two guys from the same conference could not play. So
- 50:11Speaker 7: you're playing with someone from a different conference, and that
- 50:14Speaker 7: you would pair together perimeter guys with one big guy
- 50:19Speaker 7: slash stretch. So for example, the simplified a person that's
- 50:22Speaker 7: a point guard to guard wing or say small forward.
- 50:27Speaker 7: The other pairent would be a player that would be
- 50:31Speaker 7: we'll call them a stretch outside player, meaning big or
- 50:34Speaker 7: maybe old school inside. All right, so there'll be twenty
- 50:38Speaker 7: four players, so there'd be twelve different duos. So for example,
- 50:44Speaker 7: can you imagine James and Sean and all the listeners
- 50:47Speaker 7: right now of ESPN Radio seven hundred, Shay Jills Alexander
- 50:51Speaker 7: pad with bam Adebado two, Jelen Brunson Nickerbocker's pad with
- 50:57Speaker 7: Luca Dantach three, Anthony Edwards paired with Jalen Durham of
- 51:04Speaker 7: the Pistons. Four fourth pairing, Kate Cunningham paired with Chet
- 51:10Speaker 7: hundred five, Donovan Mitchell paid with Nikolai Jokic, Yeah, six,
- 51:21Speaker 7: Jamal Murray paired with Joannis and the last one I
- 51:25Speaker 7: just talked thought about it was Jalen Brown of the
- 51:27Speaker 7: Celtics paired with Cooper Flag of the Maps.
- 51:33Speaker 2: Et cetera. So just think about it.
- 51:35Speaker 7: So I listed of seven pairings and there would be
- 51:39Speaker 7: a total of twelve, so it be five more. What's
- 51:42Speaker 7: your imagination? Think about it, and so it would be
- 51:45Speaker 7: highly competitive, and then there'll be different rules as far
- 51:48Speaker 7: as how many dribbles, what's how do you score? If
- 51:52Speaker 7: you get fouled, you get do you get foul shots?
- 51:54Speaker 7: If you make it make a three point? Is it
- 51:56Speaker 7: worth it? They could work that out, But as far
- 51:58Speaker 7: as it would be so much interest. And back in
- 52:02Speaker 7: the nineteen seventies they used to have an ABC did
- 52:05Speaker 7: the All Star Game. They had a one on one
- 52:07Speaker 7: tournament back in nineteen seventies, it was one on one.
- 52:11Speaker 7: Let's fast forward fifty five years later this would be
- 52:13Speaker 7: two on two. So I'm all for it, and I'm
- 52:16Speaker 7: assuming the players would be also, and you could eliminate
- 52:19Speaker 7: possibly maybe the skills challenge. So if it's two cumbersome,
- 52:24Speaker 7: take away the skills challenge and have this never take
- 52:28Speaker 7: away to dunk contest you want, but you want to
- 52:30Speaker 7: improve it, but also never to ever take away the
- 52:33Speaker 7: three point shooting because it's absolute lest the other night
- 52:37Speaker 7: when Deal when Damian Lillard outshot at the end, Devin Booker,
- 52:41Speaker 7: that was amazing, Gordy.
- 52:45Speaker 4: Would players be more excited about a two on two
- 52:48Speaker 4: or a one on one?
- 52:49Speaker 7: Well, I'm saying as a it'd be two on two
- 52:52Speaker 7: because one on one the players will be embarrassed if
- 52:55Speaker 7: someone beats them. Sure it's cutting dry. They're embarrassed. Two
- 52:59Speaker 7: on two, well, I played great was two on two.
- 53:02Speaker 7: So it's that's how players think.
- 53:05Speaker 4: It's interesting because I could see exactly what you're getting
- 53:09Speaker 4: to here, but I can also see it both ways, like, okay,
- 53:13Speaker 4: you share the blame, you share the glory anytime you're
- 53:15Speaker 4: in a team sport, right, and a two on two,
- 53:18Speaker 4: same situation in one on one. Right in the NBA,
- 53:23Speaker 4: it's already the collection of the best players on the planet.
- 53:26Speaker 2: Mono a mono, and now you've.
- 53:28Speaker 4: Crowned yourself as the best player in the game, and
- 53:32Speaker 4: we can all the debate that we have every year
- 53:37Speaker 4: is like, well, who's the best player in the NBA
- 53:38Speaker 4: right now? And most of the time we defer to
- 53:40Speaker 4: ever wins the MVP Award. But in this case, I
- 53:44Speaker 4: know it's a different game one on one basketball versus
- 53:47Speaker 4: five on five basketball, but you could at least have
- 53:50Speaker 4: somebody else, probably not the the NBA MVP claim that
- 53:54Speaker 4: elite one on one status.
- 53:55Speaker 5: I would like to see it.
- 53:57Speaker 4: I totally see why NBA players be reluctant to sign
- 54:01Speaker 4: up for it.
- 54:02Speaker 7: You're fascinating, and I'm sure the NBA, they're very progressive league,
- 54:07Speaker 7: they would think about to make it even more more sensational.
- 54:10Speaker 7: And NBC now being a partner where they own the
- 54:13Speaker 7: rights to the All Star Game, is that they're all
- 54:17Speaker 7: for this. And when I view shifts up fifth for
- 54:19Speaker 7: the first time in the highest level in fifteen years,
- 54:22Speaker 7: that means they can create more revenue and that's all
- 54:24Speaker 7: part of the NBA partnership.
- 54:26Speaker 4: How often does a team have a you know, a
- 54:29Speaker 4: situation where you know, practice is over or shoot around
- 54:32Speaker 4: or whatever, and a guy's like me, and you one
- 54:34Speaker 4: on one will play the five whatever.
- 54:36Speaker 5: Does that happen a lot?
- 54:37Speaker 2: Yes?
- 54:37Speaker 7: Oh that's an understatement. The answer is absolutely yes. And
- 54:40Speaker 7: also two on two where hey, usually it's two young
- 54:43Speaker 7: fellas challenge will say two veterans. Yeah, we'll play you guys.
- 54:48Speaker 7: It happens all the time, maybe almost, if not every practice,
- 54:55Speaker 7: every other practice, wow, really, oh very much frequently?
- 54:59Speaker 5: Oh?
- 54:59Speaker 2: Absolutely? Is the coaching staff?
- 55:01Speaker 4: Is it generally you generally encourage that or do you
- 55:04Speaker 4: worry about it getting to chippy your feelings being hurt?
- 55:07Speaker 4: I mean, what's the coach's role in a situation like that,
- 55:10Speaker 4: because it's obviously extra curricular, that stuff that's not part
- 55:13Speaker 4: of your practice plan.
- 55:15Speaker 7: Yes, the answer is we close our eyes and pray. Okay, yeah,
- 55:20Speaker 7: very much. So for example, just picture right now and
- 55:25Speaker 7: yesterday we'll say let's go uh Calm Alone and Brian
- 55:29Speaker 7: Russell versus let's go John Krotty and let's say.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Mike Brown.
- 55:37Speaker 7: Okay, it's like that someone like that, because I saw
- 55:39Speaker 7: it visually. Yeah, just playing till seven, right, and that's
- 55:43Speaker 7: what's good about it. Or Darren Williams playing versus Carlos
- 55:49Speaker 7: Boozer and let's go CJ. Miles because a knockdown shooter
- 55:54Speaker 7: with Memoo core just playing where it's uh An, it's
- 55:58Speaker 7: just you're playing for the joy of it and the
- 56:00Speaker 7: pride and also the pride of the locker room.
- 56:03Speaker 2: Sure, because after you win.
- 56:04Speaker 7: You're in the locker room, you're talking trash for about
- 56:06Speaker 7: a half hour, if not weeks, months, years.
- 56:09Speaker 5: How often are they putting money on those games?
- 56:12Speaker 7: Again, the answer is it would be a usually, it
- 56:14Speaker 7: would be a side bet. It's often, But from a
- 56:17Speaker 7: coaching standpoint, you're against goose. That's when it gets too weird,
- 56:20Speaker 7: then yes, just when it gets weird, only second to
- 56:23Speaker 7: when you the most teams are successful, do not gamble
- 56:27Speaker 7: as far as card games on the airplane above sea
- 56:30Speaker 7: level thirty five thousand feet, that's it's a bad thing
- 56:33Speaker 7: because things get crazy up up above sea level and
- 56:37Speaker 7: it's a carryover. So these all part of the NBA
- 56:40Speaker 7: culture and I think I'm all for it and we
- 56:43Speaker 7: shall see. But more importantly, Sean Tonight is the start
- 56:46Speaker 7: of the NBA second part of the season. The All
- 56:50Speaker 7: Star break is over, and now the teams that are
- 56:54Speaker 7: trying to make the playoffs, they expect the young players
- 56:58Speaker 7: to accelerate their progress defensive and they're playing to win,
- 57:01Speaker 7: all right.
- 57:01Speaker 4: We'll get into that a little bit here after we
- 57:03Speaker 4: take a break. Bad news on an update for second
- 57:06Speaker 4: period has begun. And I told you Team USA was
- 57:10Speaker 4: going to start this second period on a power play.
- 57:14Speaker 4: They just gave up a short handed goal for Canada.
- 57:18Speaker 4: That is not good. First goal allowed by TVSA since
- 57:24Speaker 4: the first game of this Olympic tournament. They got forty
- 57:26Speaker 4: five seconds left in this power play. So far in
- 57:29Speaker 4: the Olympics, they are four for four on the power
- 57:31Speaker 4: play TM USA is but one zero Canada right now
- 57:35Speaker 4: at the very opening portion of this second period.
- 57:38Speaker 2: Bummer.
- 57:40Speaker 5: They'll figure it out though, Gordi Chieza.
- 57:42Speaker 4: For another twenty five ish minutes, it's the Sean O'Connell
- 57:45Speaker 4: Show on ESPN seven hundred and ninety ONEFM.
- 57:51Speaker 8: As you were.
- 57:52Speaker 1: Listening to The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Hyundai
- 57:55Speaker 1: Studio of ESPN seven hundred.
- 57:58Speaker 8: And ninety two to one.
- 57:59Speaker 9: A f M, I should apologize if you're watching on
- 58:11Speaker 9: the YouTube stream, because you're watching me eat this delightful
- 58:16Speaker 9: Murlowberger from Berger Fusion.
- 58:19Speaker 4: Now, let's just say I'm not taking it slowly. This
- 58:21Speaker 4: thing is absolutely incredible. They are batting one thousand still
- 58:26Speaker 4: the rosemary fries today the murleow Berger. I have chosen
- 58:29Speaker 4: the tangy fry sauce as my dipping sauce. Also, the
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- 58:45Speaker 4: Hot Lunch. Gordiers in studio with us for the remainder
- 58:48Speaker 4: of this segment.
- 58:49Speaker 2: One to Ozero.
- 58:49Speaker 4: Canada up on USA fifteen minutes left in the second
- 58:53Speaker 4: period in this game, and this is the seventh time
- 58:57Speaker 4: these two nations have played for a gold medal. Canada's
- 59:02Speaker 4: up four to two right now. Hopefully the USA can
- 59:05Speaker 4: get the gold medal today and we'll call it four
- 59:07Speaker 4: to three after this one. Gordy, you pointed it out
- 59:10Speaker 4: to me during a break. It's a big time birthday
- 59:13Speaker 4: in the NBA.
- 59:15Speaker 2: Yes it is.
- 59:16Speaker 7: Today is the thirty first birthday of everybody that really
- 59:21Speaker 7: enjoys watching this guy play. I know he's one of
- 59:23Speaker 7: the Jazz arch rivals. He plays for the Devon Nuggets.
- 59:27Speaker 7: Nikolai Jokic today turns thirty one, and let's go about
- 59:33Speaker 7: his career. He was a second round pick, second round pick,
- 59:37Speaker 7: and you kidding me? And now he was the three
- 59:39Speaker 7: time league MVP back in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty
- 59:46Speaker 7: twenty two, and twenty twenty four, and he was the
- 59:49Speaker 7: MVP of the NBA Finals where the Nuggets were champions
- 59:52Speaker 7: back in twenty twenty three. This year, as we speak
- 59:57Speaker 7: right now, leads to the NBA in twenty games of
- 1:00:00Speaker 7: having a triple double, which is outrageous. And for this season,
- 1:00:04Speaker 7: he's averaging twenty eight points seven points per game, trow
- 1:00:08Speaker 7: point three rebounds, ten point seven assists, one point four steals,
- 1:00:14Speaker 7: shooting fifty six point one from the field.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: Happy Birthday. It's outrageous.
- 1:00:22Speaker 5: Is he the best player in the league right now?
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: Yes?
- 1:00:28Speaker 7: Yes, with Shape being a very close second and Luca
- 1:00:31Speaker 7: Donts also in that group.
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: Would he win a one on one tournament if you
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: put everyone, because that's a different thing, that's a different
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: like athleticism probably matters a little bit more quickness off
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: to dribble, et cetera. If he's the best player in
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: the team game. Would he also be the best player
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: if they did that one on one thing at the
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: All Star weekend.
- 1:00:50Speaker 7: No, he would not because his foot speed would be exposed.
- 1:00:55Speaker 7: And when he plays in a team game, his foot
- 1:00:58Speaker 7: speed isn't as much of a fact. But his skill
- 1:01:01Speaker 7: level and his highly intelligent that's when you see him
- 1:01:04Speaker 7: really flourish. So one on one, if someone said what's
- 1:01:07Speaker 7: the best one on one player in the NBA, I
- 1:01:10Speaker 7: would lean towards either you could debate this, either Shae
- 1:01:14Speaker 7: Jus Alexander as number one and number two Anthony Edwards.
- 1:01:22Speaker 7: Those two guys would be probably again probably and one
- 1:01:27Speaker 7: of the best players of all time. One on one,
- 1:01:29Speaker 7: I would lean towards either Kobe Bryant or Larry Bird
- 1:01:37Speaker 7: as far as just one on one, sure, and as
- 1:01:40Speaker 7: you could debate that forever. And that's that's the beauty
- 1:01:43Speaker 7: of sports right now, So Jokic turns thirty one years
- 1:01:47Speaker 7: young and emphasize young tonight. Also Steph Curry the Warriors,
- 1:01:53Speaker 7: they're hanging in there. They could have caved in like
- 1:01:56Speaker 7: five times already. The Warriors played tonight. It's the NBA
- 1:01:59Speaker 7: season and the Warriors right now the eight seed twenty
- 1:02:02Speaker 7: nine wins and twenty six losses, and Steph Curry is
- 1:02:07Speaker 7: not playing. He has a right knee soreness. They call
- 1:02:10Speaker 7: it really runners knee, just wear and tear. This is
- 1:02:13Speaker 7: seventeenth season in the NBA, and let's say in that
- 1:02:16Speaker 7: very small body compared to other NBA players, let's say
- 1:02:21Speaker 7: that it's wear and tear. So Steph right now has
- 1:02:24Speaker 7: missed this season sixteen games. And when he's not played
- 1:02:28Speaker 7: for the Warriors, the Wayor's record is six and ten.
- 1:02:31Speaker 7: That shows you how great he is to play at
- 1:02:34Speaker 7: an elite level. And let's not forget that Jimmy Butler's
- 1:02:36Speaker 7: out for the season. So Steph is really carrying the
- 1:02:39Speaker 7: team by himself, and they need him this year. He's
- 1:02:43Speaker 7: averaging twenty seven point two points per game, four point
- 1:02:47Speaker 7: eight assists, shooting forty six point eight from the field,
- 1:02:50Speaker 7: and thirty nine thirty nine point one percent from three.
- 1:02:55Speaker 7: And he's the best player in the NBA as far
- 1:02:57Speaker 7: as from the foul line, shooting ninety three percent. So
- 1:03:00Speaker 7: he's playing great. They can't win without him. They're going
- 1:03:03Speaker 7: to try tonight.
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: Where do we put Golden State's competitiveness, their chance for
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: being a championship caliber team still at this point because
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: of the Butler injury, like you talked about, because of
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: an aging Steph Curry who's having a harder time being healthy,
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: which of course is something that plagued him in the
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: early portions of his career. There was some team chemistry
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: issues when you had cominga still as part of that picture.
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: But I mean, this is one of the pseudo dynasties
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: of modern basketball and it's a different look team now.
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: So are they still in the hunt?
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: No, No, they're not.
- 1:03:41Speaker 7: No, They're trying to hang on as long as they
- 1:03:44Speaker 7: can and that's commendable by them, but eventually they're going
- 1:03:49Speaker 7: to have to start over again. And that ownership level
- 1:03:53Speaker 7: is said that they want to be competitive as long
- 1:03:56Speaker 7: as Steph can still play at this level, and they
- 1:03:58Speaker 7: are their competitive they're twenty nine and twenty six, But
- 1:04:02Speaker 7: eventually they'll have to start over, like all teams do.
- 1:04:06Speaker 7: The Jets decided to do that about three years ago.
- 1:04:08Speaker 7: This will be the fourth year not making the playoffs.
- 1:04:11Speaker 7: Eventually it'll be the Warriors turn to start over. The Warriors,
- 1:04:15Speaker 7: Sean's alluding to about their this era as far as dynasty,
- 1:04:20Speaker 7: they want that are four NBA titles in an eight
- 1:04:23Speaker 7: year window, So from twenty fourteen the twenty twenty two
- 1:04:28Speaker 7: four titles and eight years.
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: And in that also they.
- 1:04:33Speaker 7: Lost twice and they went to the finals six times totally.
- 1:04:36Speaker 7: They lost to the Cavs in twenty sixteen in Game
- 1:04:40Speaker 7: seven when Lebron won He's got his first championship with
- 1:04:44Speaker 7: the Cavaliers, and they lost when they were injured again
- 1:04:47Speaker 7: when Clay got hurt. They lost to the Raptors in
- 1:04:49Speaker 7: twenty nineteen. So with that window, six times in the
- 1:04:53Speaker 7: NBA finals eight years, that might never happen again because
- 1:04:57Speaker 7: you might say, oh, no, what about the Thunder. Well,
- 1:05:00Speaker 7: here's what history teaches us right now, for seven straight years,
- 1:05:04Speaker 7: a different NBA champion has emerged. In twenty nineteen, it
- 1:05:08Speaker 7: was the Warriors. In twenty twenty, it was the Lakers
- 1:05:11Speaker 7: in the Bubble. In twenty twenty one, it was the Bucks.
- 1:05:14Speaker 7: In twenty twenty two, it was the Warriors. In twenty
- 1:05:17Speaker 7: twenty three, it was the Nuggets, in twenty twenty four
- 1:05:20Speaker 7: was the Celtics, and last year it was the Thunder.
- 1:05:23Speaker 7: And make it even more dramatic, the last time the
- 1:05:26Speaker 7: NBA champion went back to back title was twenty seventeen
- 1:05:30Speaker 7: eighteen and was the Warriors for seven straight season. The
- 1:05:34Speaker 7: defending NBA champion didn't advass Sewing passed the second player round,
- 1:05:40Speaker 7: did not advance, So the NBA champion did not advance
- 1:05:44Speaker 7: passed the second player round. So that's a shows you
- 1:05:48Speaker 7: how hard it is. For example, the Celts won it
- 1:05:51Speaker 7: in twenty twenty five. They lost to their knicks in
- 1:05:54Speaker 7: the second round in twenty twenty five, So this shows
- 1:05:57Speaker 7: your in twenty twenty four, pardon me, shows you. Now
- 1:06:01Speaker 7: the thunder going to try to have a different viewpoint
- 1:06:05Speaker 7: of that.
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: We'll see if it plays out.
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: What do you think porzingis adds to the Warriors? How
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: does he fit into that lineup?
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Very much?
- 1:06:12Speaker 7: He fits in well because he spaces the floor as
- 1:06:15Speaker 7: a three point shooter, as seven ft seven foot read
- 1:06:19Speaker 7: basically two and that he can block shots and that
- 1:06:22Speaker 7: helps them also, and that allows Al Hawford now to
- 1:06:26Speaker 7: play as a stretch big, as a power forward as
- 1:06:30Speaker 7: they with Draymond also helping out as far as whether
- 1:06:34Speaker 7: they start him or not, as far as al Hafford.
- 1:06:36Speaker 7: So he gives them, he gives them a different viewpoint
- 1:06:39Speaker 7: and it helps them as far as being an outside
- 1:06:42Speaker 7: perimeter player that can block shots.
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: That's what they need.
- 1:06:45Speaker 7: Really Again, if you're a Warriors fan, they've actually overachieved.
- 1:06:48Speaker 7: They give him a lot of credit. And the Lakers
- 1:06:50Speaker 7: have overachieved also now with and also the Nuggets have
- 1:06:54Speaker 7: overachieved because they've been out. They've been injured so much
- 1:06:57Speaker 7: the Nuggets, so they're playing without the playing without Aaron
- 1:07:00Speaker 7: Gordon who's been hurt with the hamstring injury. And now
- 1:07:05Speaker 7: they're playing without also Peyton Watson, who's played tremendous for
- 1:07:08Speaker 7: them with also a hamstring injury. And so for those
- 1:07:12Speaker 7: guys for the Nuggets to be thirty five and twenty
- 1:07:17Speaker 7: as the third seed. Now the Thunders playing also without
- 1:07:20Speaker 7: Shay right now, so they're still they're still the first place.
- 1:07:24Speaker 7: And then there's a team called Seawan, the San Antonio Spurs.
- 1:07:30Speaker 7: They are playing absolutely great. The question right now are
- 1:07:34Speaker 7: they ready for prime time in the playoffs. This will
- 1:07:37Speaker 7: be their first playoff bid in six years, since twenty nineteen,
- 1:07:41Speaker 7: And they say they are, and they could be Daron Fox,
- 1:07:45Speaker 7: Stephen Cassel, Devin Varsel, Harrison Barnes, Victor went Byamba. Then
- 1:07:51Speaker 7: they go Dylan Harper off the bench, Kelvin Johnson off
- 1:07:55Speaker 7: the bench, Julian Champagny off the bench, Kelly o'lennock helping
- 1:07:59Speaker 7: them off the bench, and Luke Cornette.
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: So they're really ten deep.
- 1:08:03Speaker 7: Do they have enough toughness and awareness about the intensity
- 1:08:07Speaker 7: of the playoffs.
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: We're gonna find out.
- 1:08:09Speaker 7: But they have a great start in when Beyond the
- 1:08:11Speaker 7: and also in Stephen Kessel and d Aaron Fox, whose
- 1:08:15Speaker 7: I call him the fastest of the fest.
- 1:08:17Speaker 4: There's always narratives in the NBA and the NHL about,
- 1:08:20Speaker 4: you know, the rebuild and now you're back in the
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: playoff picture, but nobody really expects that the first year
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: back in the playoffs you're gonna make a real championship run.
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: And you've described for us many times the significant difference
- 1:08:34Speaker 4: between regular season basketball and NBA playoff basketball. Do we
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: have an example in the history of the NBA of
- 1:08:41Speaker 4: a team that was absent from the playoffs for a
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: significant stretch and then they made it all the way
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: to a conference finals or into an NBA Finals when
- 1:08:49Speaker 4: they first arrived back at the table, so to speak,
- 1:08:53Speaker 4: or does it always take two or three years for
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: a team like this one like the Spurs, like we
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: hope the Jazz will be next year. You get into
- 1:09:01Speaker 4: the playoffs, then you get a little bit further in
- 1:09:02Speaker 4: the playoffs, and then okay, third straight year in the playoffs.
- 1:09:05Speaker 5: Now it's really time. Are there outliers to this?
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: Not recently?
- 1:09:09Speaker 7: No, No, it's painful, and that most times you get
- 1:09:13Speaker 7: punched in the face. So example, the Minnesota Timberwolves with
- 1:09:17Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards, who's a superstar player, They've been to the
- 1:09:20Speaker 7: conference finals back to back years, but have not been
- 1:09:24Speaker 7: able to get over that hurdle to get into the
- 1:09:26Speaker 7: NBA finals. It just shows you, hey, do you like
- 1:09:29Speaker 7: the Clippers? The Clippers have only one appearance in the
- 1:09:31Speaker 7: Western Conference Finals in their history as a franchise. And
- 1:09:36Speaker 7: so it's hard. Like this, this thing called the NBA playoffs,
- 1:09:40Speaker 7: it's hard. The Pistons are going to try to do that.
- 1:09:43Speaker 7: As far as they got they've they're each year they're
- 1:09:45Speaker 7: getting slightly better. As far as in the as far
- 1:09:48Speaker 7: as in postseason, there's nothing regular about the NBA playoffs. Yeah,
- 1:09:56Speaker 7: so James Townes in the headsets about the Lakers miss
- 1:09:59Speaker 7: seven st eight years before they able to get Lebron
- 1:10:03Speaker 7: As far as as far as getting it in Anthony Davis.
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: That okay, feels like a bit of a cheat when
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: you get Lebron James, like because he just automatically elevates
- 1:10:15Speaker 4: a team. But yeah, I think that patience process, that
- 1:10:19Speaker 4: rebuild process is it's a difficult thing for fans to
- 1:10:23Speaker 4: have to endure if you're seven year cycle, if it's
- 1:10:26Speaker 4: a seven year turnaround cycle, that's a big ask to say,
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: all right, hang out with us while you know, we
- 1:10:34Speaker 4: get back into contention every six, seven, eight, ten years
- 1:10:37Speaker 4: and you're lucky if it's even championship contention that frequently,
- 1:10:41Speaker 4: I guess.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Yeah, very much.
- 1:10:42Speaker 7: So that then is a Sacramento Kinks right where they're
- 1:10:45Speaker 7: the opposite, where they've been trying to rebuild for literally
- 1:10:49Speaker 7: twenty years. They've only had one appearance in the playoffs
- 1:10:53Speaker 7: in nineteen years.
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: Wild.
- 1:10:56Speaker 7: So it just shows you that that it's not any magical.
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: It's picking the right guys most of the time.
- 1:11:03Speaker 7: So example, you get the majority of your draft picks
- 1:11:07Speaker 7: correct towards winning, and then you developed them and then
- 1:11:12Speaker 7: you have a thing called chemistry with their group, and
- 1:11:16Speaker 7: that chemistry so so many times showing is elusive because
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: you can't explain it until you don't have it where
- 1:11:24Speaker 7: you don't where it's such a feeling in the locker
- 1:11:27Speaker 7: room with the where most of the players there's an
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: element of joy about playing with their floormates and also
- 1:11:35Speaker 7: with their teammates, also with their workmates. I'm using three
- 1:11:39Speaker 7: different words here, teammates, floormates, and workmates and they all
- 1:11:43Speaker 7: have to match together and mesh. And that's where it
- 1:11:48Speaker 7: gets so interesting. There's no algorithms, there's no metrics that
- 1:11:52Speaker 7: ever will explain to people about in a locker room.
- 1:11:55Speaker 7: That locker room, it's really it's sacred. It's a sanctuary
- 1:11:59Speaker 7: as far as each player, and that players have to
- 1:12:02Speaker 7: understand that that locker room is critical towards winning.
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: James says the seventy seven Blazers might be the best
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: example of a playoff drought. And so the Blazers missed
- 1:12:18Speaker 4: the playoffs for six years and then won in nineteen
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: seventy seven.
- 1:12:21Speaker 7: Which just shows you how long ago. And that's when
- 1:12:23Speaker 7: he got Bill Walton. Okay, so he was the guy. Walton,
- 1:12:25Speaker 7: he was the guy. Then he got hurt with so
- 1:12:27Speaker 7: many injuries, and then the next season they started out
- 1:12:31Speaker 7: fifty to ten. After winning it in nineteen seventy seven,
- 1:12:34Speaker 7: Bill got hurt and then they had a hard time
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: after Bill. As far as winning it again, it's hard.
- 1:12:41Speaker 7: It's hard where the NFL, whether it's the NBA, this
- 1:12:44Speaker 7: is difficult to playoffs. So the Cabs example, the Cavaliers.
- 1:12:48Speaker 7: You know, people still have a great relationship with Donovan
- 1:12:52Speaker 7: Mitchell because people want him to do well locally here.
- 1:12:55Speaker 7: He plays for the Cavaliers. Now for those guys, yeah,
- 1:12:58Speaker 7: the best recking in basketball last season they got punched
- 1:13:01Speaker 7: in the face. Now they made that trade for Darius
- 1:13:03Speaker 7: Calling going to the Clippers, and then they acquired James
- 1:13:07Speaker 7: Harden at the end of his career. But it's still
- 1:13:10Speaker 7: absolutely effective player and a dominant player. He has some
- 1:13:14Speaker 7: struggles in the playoffs though, might head but they're saying
- 1:13:16Speaker 7: that it's worth the risk because we have Donovan Mitchell
- 1:13:20Speaker 7: and his prime right now. We don't want to wait
- 1:13:22Speaker 7: any longer. So that's where it's where teams they are
- 1:13:25Speaker 7: patient and then they have to get a certain player
- 1:13:30Speaker 7: that they think can help them go deeper in the
- 1:13:32Speaker 7: playoffs and if not, championship.
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: Gordy, what is Matt Ishbia's reputation around the league is
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: he respected as an owner, do they like him? There's
- 1:13:42Speaker 4: you don't always have to be liked to be respected. Obviously.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: What is Matt Ishbia's standing in the NBA circles?
- 1:13:49Speaker 7: That is a new generational type owner. He's almost like
- 1:13:51Speaker 7: a younger version of a of a Mark Cuban was
- 1:13:55Speaker 7: twenty five, twenty six, seven years ago, and that's good.
- 1:13:59Speaker 7: So he's stirring it up up with the his franchise,
- 1:14:02Speaker 7: the Phoenix Suns. And by the way, the Sons right
- 1:14:05Speaker 7: now they're thirty two and twenty three, they're the seventh seeds,
- 1:14:08Speaker 7: so they're saying, why not us? And they have Devin Booker,
- 1:14:12Speaker 7: who's a tremendous player and he's in his prime, and
- 1:14:17Speaker 7: they think that they can make some upsets in the playoffs.
- 1:14:22Speaker 7: So it's led by ownership and management. And their team
- 1:14:26Speaker 7: has played relatively well the whole season and they're not
- 1:14:29Speaker 7: gonna they're not gonna mention it because they're paying the
- 1:14:33Speaker 7: guy a whole bunch of money. But right, you know,
- 1:14:35Speaker 7: right now with this with the with the Sons, right now,
- 1:14:38Speaker 7: with with Devin Booker, when they when he added Colin Gillespie,
- 1:14:44Speaker 7: that's really helped them tremendously and that's the backcourt is
- 1:14:47Speaker 7: really in place. They added Dylan Brooks, who's a wild card,
- 1:14:50Speaker 7: and now with Mark Williams is the big guy right now,
- 1:14:54Speaker 7: and they're they're gonna be They're gonna be a force
- 1:14:56Speaker 7: in the NBA. As far as them playing Grayson Allenson
- 1:14:59Speaker 7: a good forman jass Man, and they play well the
- 1:15:03Speaker 7: second in the NBA as far as in a steals.
- 1:15:06Speaker 7: So they play aggressive defense, and they have a lot
- 1:15:09Speaker 7: of good young talent and they have guys in a
- 1:15:11Speaker 7: prime ulso right now.
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: The reason I asked about matt ISSHPIA is that he
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: made some strong comments about the tanking situation. Yes, he said,
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: it's loser behavior done by losers purposely losing is something
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: nobody should want to be associated with. Embarrassing for the
- 1:15:27Speaker 4: league and for the organizations to talk about this is
- 1:15:30Speaker 4: a strategy is ridiculous.
- 1:15:32Speaker 5: Now, I get it.
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: You're not in a situation right now where you feel
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: a need to do this. This means, Matt Ishbia because
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: you went out with this statement. You can never let
- 1:15:44Speaker 4: your team tank. So when this group of talented young
- 1:15:48Speaker 4: players becomes old players or often injured players or not
- 1:15:52Speaker 4: competitive players, You're not allowed to tank, matt Eshpia. The
- 1:15:55Speaker 4: Suns under your ownership, under your leadership, are never allowed
- 1:15:59Speaker 4: to tank. I mean, it's a strong stance that he's taking.
- 1:16:03Speaker 4: Is he doing this to get into the good graces
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: of Adam Silver? Does he really believe stuff like this?
- 1:16:08Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's kind of a tried and true tradition.
- 1:16:11Speaker 5: This is what people do.
- 1:16:12Speaker 7: Yeah, the answer is we'll find out about six seven
- 1:16:16Speaker 7: years from now when some of their main guys are
- 1:16:19Speaker 7: aging and so ed you described also without the vocal
- 1:16:23Speaker 7: part of it, the Mamby Heat. They're true there once were.
- 1:16:27Speaker 7: They were a tremendous franchise. They still as far as
- 1:16:30Speaker 7: a franchise, they're trying to never reload. They're always trying
- 1:16:34Speaker 7: to piecemeal it so they can be highly competitive as
- 1:16:37Speaker 7: far as them in their market.
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: Can he pull it off? We'll find out, And that's
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: right now.
- 1:16:42Speaker 7: The Phoenix Suns are trying to be like almost like
- 1:16:45Speaker 7: the Heat of the Western Conference version. It's hard to
- 1:16:48Speaker 7: be good for so many years. One time in Jazz basketball,
- 1:16:51Speaker 7: the Jazz went to the playoffs twenty straight years, which
- 1:16:54Speaker 7: is remarkable. From nineteen eighty three to two thousand and three.
- 1:16:58Speaker 7: The Jazz were in the player for twenty years in
- 1:17:01Speaker 7: a row. Unfortunately, there was never a championship to say that. Yes,
- 1:17:05Speaker 7: the Jazz were for a five year window. They were
- 1:17:07Speaker 7: absolutely elite of the elite, but they had to play
- 1:17:10Speaker 7: against Michael Jordan, and that was the Jazz had to
- 1:17:14Speaker 7: play against the world's greatest player of all time to
- 1:17:17Speaker 7: get there, and it took Jordan's greatest brilliance to beat
- 1:17:20Speaker 7: the Jazz both those years in nineteen ninety seven nineteen
- 1:17:23Speaker 7: ninety eight, back to back years four games to two.
- 1:17:25Speaker 7: Remember Michael Jordan never played in the seven game series
- 1:17:29Speaker 7: in the finals. That's how great he was by himself,
- 1:17:32Speaker 7: but also with his sidekick Scottie Pippen and also Dennis Rodman.
- 1:17:37Speaker 5: Gordy, what's the list today?
- 1:17:38Speaker 7: And speaking speaking of Rodman, He's on this list eventually.
- 1:17:42Speaker 7: My list today is the most career twenty plus rebound
- 1:17:46Speaker 7: games by NBA players so Korea. How many times have
- 1:17:51Speaker 7: these guys have twenty plus rebounding games career wise? I
- 1:17:55Speaker 7: think about twenty rebounds in a game a lot. That's
- 1:17:58Speaker 7: a lot. Foundations of elite rebounders are one positioning, two instincts,
- 1:18:05Speaker 7: three timing, four high hands, five footwork, six quickness, seven physicality,
- 1:18:13Speaker 7: and eight effort. Note on this list, I'm gonna give
- 1:18:17Speaker 7: you it's only gonna be twelve names. The NBA did
- 1:18:23Speaker 7: not officially record offensive rebounding as a category, not until
- 1:18:30Speaker 7: the nineteen seventy three seventy four season. So when I
- 1:18:35Speaker 7: say these guys' names, you're gonna say out loud, what
- 1:18:38Speaker 7: about Bill Russell, Wilt Nate Thurman, and Willis Reed? You're right,
- 1:18:44Speaker 7: So those guys, we never know how many offers to
- 1:18:48Speaker 7: rebounds guys got, ever got.
- 1:18:51Speaker 4: So wait, ever, they didn't count the rebound if it
- 1:18:55Speaker 4: happened on the offensive end, or they just didn't separate
- 1:18:57Speaker 4: offensive from defensive.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: They didn't separate.
- 1:18:59Speaker 7: Okay, all right, all right, so but we never know
- 1:19:02Speaker 7: they see, they just put rebounds in the game. And
- 1:19:05Speaker 7: also some of those games, there's no films of them,
- 1:19:07Speaker 7: so they would never go back to the showing the
- 1:19:11Speaker 7: old school black and white, grainy films that your ice
- 1:19:15Speaker 7: hurt watching them. Every once you see that, every once
- 1:19:17Speaker 7: in a while they show a film of a black
- 1:19:20Speaker 7: and white which is hard to believe in this digital age.
- 1:19:23Speaker 7: Here's the list right now, there's only twelve names. Number
- 1:19:27Speaker 7: eleven all time, Kevin Garnett, he did it thirty six times.
- 1:19:32Speaker 7: Number ten, tied most Malone and Kevin Willis. They had
- 1:19:37Speaker 7: thirty seven twenty plus rebound games. Number nine Ben Wallace,
- 1:19:42Speaker 7: and before I give his numbers, he's the who's undrafted
- 1:19:46Speaker 7: and he's in the Basketball Hall of Fame. So pitchers
- 1:19:48Speaker 7: shown being undrafted. You never got picked as far as
- 1:19:52Speaker 7: that you're in the basketbll Hall of Fame. Ben Wallace,
- 1:19:54Speaker 7: he did forty two times twenty plus rebound games.
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: Number eight. Mar Camby did his forty four times. Number seven.
- 1:20:04Speaker 7: Hakeem Olaja one did it forty eight times twenty plus
- 1:20:08Speaker 7: or more rebound games. Number six. He used to wag
- 1:20:11Speaker 7: his tail his finger at us defensively. The Kembo Mutumbo
- 1:20:15Speaker 7: did it fifty two times. Number five. Before I say
- 1:20:18Speaker 7: his name, he was only six foot five and a half.
- 1:20:21Speaker 7: To do this fifty four times is remarkable. I'm talking
- 1:20:25Speaker 7: about Charles Barklay Wow. Number four. He plays for the
- 1:20:31Speaker 7: Pelicans at the end of his career, but when he
- 1:20:34Speaker 7: was younger with the Clippers, he was absolutely a tremendous rebounder.
- 1:20:38Speaker 7: DeAndre Jordan did it sixty times twenty plus rebound games.
- 1:20:44Speaker 7: Number three. One time he won the Dunk Contest with
- 1:20:47Speaker 7: a cape bening Superman Dwight Howard did it eighty two times.
- 1:20:52Speaker 7: The second greatest rebounder as far as most ever twenty
- 1:20:56Speaker 7: point rebounding games. He plays currently for the seventh tent Sixers.
- 1:21:01Speaker 7: His name is Andre Jrumman. He did it ninety two
- 1:21:04Speaker 7: times and the number one player in history of basketball
- 1:21:07Speaker 7: with the most ever twenty plus rebound Korea games. We
- 1:21:12Speaker 7: played against them so many times. Everybody knows his hairdoos
- 1:21:16Speaker 7: his different colors of his hair. His name is Dennis Rodman.
- 1:21:20Speaker 7: He did it one hundred and fifty eight times twenty
- 1:21:24Speaker 7: rebound games, which means that he has sixty six more
- 1:21:28Speaker 7: than the second place holder of Andre Drummond. Quickly, what
- 1:21:31Speaker 7: about Jazz franchise history. The most ever twenty point plus
- 1:21:36Speaker 7: games as far as rebounds is Rudy Gobert. He did
- 1:21:40Speaker 7: it twenty four times, and their runner up is called Malone.
- 1:21:44Speaker 7: He did it twelve presently, Rucker Kestel, you know he's hurt.
- 1:21:48Speaker 7: He's so far in his career arc he has twenty
- 1:21:51Speaker 7: plus rebounding games. He did it three times. That's my
- 1:21:54Speaker 7: list of today of the most ever twenty plus rebound
- 1:21:59Speaker 7: game Korea wise.
- 1:22:03Speaker 4: Remember that Dennis Rodman was on the Last Dance documentary
- 1:22:07Speaker 4: and he was talking about how you could get rebounds
- 1:22:10Speaker 4: based on the sound that the basketball made as it
- 1:22:13Speaker 4: was contacting the rim. I mean, it was somewhat comical
- 1:22:17Speaker 4: because he was of course pantomime. He was making the
- 1:22:20Speaker 4: noises with his mouth, but that's how well his rebounding
- 1:22:23Speaker 4: brain worked. He knew what a ball was gonna do
- 1:22:26Speaker 4: coming off the rim based on the auditory signature of
- 1:22:30Speaker 4: the impact against the rim and the backboard.
- 1:22:32Speaker 7: Crazy very much. So again we call that soft rims.
- 1:22:36Speaker 7: There's some rims that are softer and some are harder.
- 1:22:40Speaker 7: Even though it's all as far as should be unified
- 1:22:42Speaker 7: in the NBA, so in the Boston Gardens and yesteryear,
- 1:22:46Speaker 7: the rims were soft, so which means that and also
- 1:22:50Speaker 7: you have to study your teammates their shot, their shot arc.
- 1:22:53Speaker 7: Is it a line drive, is it a mid arc,
- 1:22:56Speaker 7: is it a high arc? It was a line drive.
- 1:22:59Speaker 7: It's gonna break the rim when it's missed then, so
- 1:23:01Speaker 7: it's going to come out quicker if it's a soft rim,
- 1:23:04Speaker 7: and your teammate has a high arc. It's going to
- 1:23:06Speaker 7: be hit and miss, and it's to be right in
- 1:23:09Speaker 7: front of the rim. So again, this is instincts and
- 1:23:12Speaker 7: Dennis Robin, to his credit, he's able to master it
- 1:23:15Speaker 7: and that's why he's had the most ever games. And
- 1:23:18Speaker 7: you know in jazz basketball, Rudy Gobert think about it
- 1:23:21Speaker 7: that he's all these different criteria as far as attributes,
- 1:23:24Speaker 7: Rudy had that, I mean, you have to be physical
- 1:23:26Speaker 7: and you have to be willing to watch get hit
- 1:23:28Speaker 7: and get smacked in the face to chase down offensive rebounds.
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: That's the list.
- 1:23:34Speaker 4: That's Gordy Chies our resident NBA guru, Gordia, It's always
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: great having you in here.
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in again. Thanks Sean. Peace out YouTube Gordi.
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- 1:26:00Speaker 4: put together some nice offensive pushes in the second half
- 1:26:04Speaker 4: of that second period, and usually hopefully the damn ends
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- 1:26:13Speaker 4: that often that aggressively couple really really nice chances where
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- 1:26:31Speaker 4: So hopefully those good shifts can continue into period number three. Again,
- 1:26:37Speaker 4: this is the gold medal game. This is all the marbles.
- 1:26:40Speaker 4: Canada holds the advantage in the all time series of
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- 1:26:57Speaker 4: all right, lots of stories to get to here as
- 1:26:59Speaker 4: we talk uts first, Well, maybe the most important one
- 1:27:04Speaker 4: is the fact that Alex Jensen and company found a
- 1:27:08Speaker 4: way to get a win at West Virginia.
- 1:27:11Speaker 5: It's a tough environment.
- 1:27:12Speaker 4: Gordy and I were talking about this during the break
- 1:27:14Speaker 4: as he was gathering his stuff up to leave. It's
- 1:27:17Speaker 4: never easy to win on the road, especially when you're
- 1:27:21Speaker 4: a team that's kind of on the rebuild, and it's
- 1:27:23Speaker 4: certainly not easy to win in that environment. West Virginia
- 1:27:27Speaker 4: is a bubble team right now. They have a lot
- 1:27:29Speaker 4: to play for. They are kind of a sneaky good
- 1:27:34Speaker 4: roster from an athleticism standpoint, and Utah almost squandered this one,
- 1:27:39Speaker 4: almost fumbled it away after a first half, a ten
- 1:27:41Speaker 4: point first half lead. But they hang on and they
- 1:27:45Speaker 4: win sixty one fifty six on the back of strong
- 1:27:49Speaker 4: efforts again from Terrence Brown, Don McHenry. Sadu ended up
- 1:27:53Speaker 4: having a really good game seventeen points on six of
- 1:27:56Speaker 4: thirteen shooting, including three of four from beyond the arc,
- 1:28:00Speaker 4: and you ended up with only five bench points. Still, though,
- 1:28:04Speaker 4: found a way to win at West Virginia. You're not
- 1:28:07Speaker 4: getting a ton of these all right. You're not getting
- 1:28:11Speaker 4: a lot of opportunities where you can well, I guess
- 1:28:13Speaker 4: the opportunities there, but you're not capitalizing on a lot
- 1:28:16Speaker 4: of the opportunities that you have against these kind of
- 1:28:19Speaker 4: mid range to bubble to even bad teams in the
- 1:28:22Speaker 4: Big Twelve.
- 1:28:23Speaker 5: These are the games that you gotta win.
- 1:28:25Speaker 4: You're gonna have a really hard time with Iowa State
- 1:28:27Speaker 4: and Houston and Kansas right now. These are games that
- 1:28:30Speaker 4: you can fight your way to winning. And congratulations to
- 1:28:33Speaker 4: Alex Jensen and his team. Out rebounded West Virginia which
- 1:28:38Speaker 4: was huge in this one, passed the ball well, they
- 1:28:41Speaker 4: were aggressive on defense. Four block shots in this game
- 1:28:46Speaker 4: for the utes, for the running uts. And it's your
- 1:28:48Speaker 4: second Big twelve win of the year. Good to see it, yeah,
- 1:28:52Speaker 4: and first first road win of the season I think
- 1:28:56Speaker 4: in total, so like not just in the Big Twelve,
- 1:28:59Speaker 4: but like for the whole season this I believe this
- 1:29:02Speaker 4: was their first road win. The things you just talked
- 1:29:04Speaker 4: about too, about the stats that they that they won
- 1:29:08Speaker 4: in this game, big time weaknesses for the running uts
- 1:29:13Speaker 4: All season, they've been out rebounded in almost every game.
- 1:29:16Speaker 4: They certainly haven't gotten a ton of block shots, and
- 1:29:19Speaker 4: it speaks to they just don't have a lot of
- 1:29:22Speaker 4: big men right the Conkus their biggest guy, I think
- 1:29:26Speaker 4: he goes six', eight maybe six,' nine and he's not necessarily,
- 1:29:29Speaker 4: a big, Bulky dude so they they've been compromised in
- 1:29:33Speaker 4: though in those areas. All season one of the reasons
- 1:29:37Speaker 4: why their defense has been. Lacking too but to hold,
- 1:29:40Speaker 4: it good, not great But Good west virginia team on
- 1:29:44Speaker 4: the road to under, SIXTY points, i mean that's a
- 1:29:48Speaker 4: hopefully that's an indication that this Group And alex jensen
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: and his coaching staff are finally starting to maybe starting
- 1:29:57Speaker 4: to turn a corner with the with the defensive Principles
- 1:30:00Speaker 4: At alex ctinton.
- 1:30:01Speaker 5: Wants to And.
- 1:30:02Speaker 4: Still west virginia is seven and six this Year In
- 1:30:05Speaker 4: big TWELVE play byu the number twenty three ranked team in,
- 1:30:09Speaker 4: the country although they probably are gonna fall out after
- 1:30:13Speaker 4: a Loss. TO arizona byu is seven and Six And big.
- 1:30:16Speaker 4: TWELVE play, i mean this is, A team these are
- 1:30:20Speaker 4: teams that are kind of flirting with five hundred records
- 1:30:24Speaker 4: In The Big. Twelve Conference And west virginia was by
- 1:30:28Speaker 4: far the best win of the season For the University
- 1:30:32Speaker 4: of utah because of what, you mentioned first road win of,
- 1:30:34Speaker 4: the season and because it's a team that has a
- 1:30:36Speaker 4: lot to. Play for they still believe they've got a
- 1:30:39Speaker 4: shot at making some noise in the postseason one way or.
- 1:30:42Speaker 4: The other the other big game, last night obviously in
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: conference Play was ARIZONA and byu seventy five sixty eight
- 1:30:51Speaker 4: win For. The wildcats aj debonsa can't be blamed for
- 1:30:55Speaker 4: this one thirty five points and. Seven REBOUNDS and byu has, some.
- 1:31:00Speaker 5: Problems.
- 1:31:00Speaker 4: Man now arizona's gonna make it look like a lot
- 1:31:02Speaker 4: of people. Have problems they're one of, the top, you
- 1:31:05Speaker 4: know two teams in, this conference top three teams in.
- 1:31:07Speaker 4: This conference they're a top five team in the nation.
- 1:31:11Speaker 4: Right NOW and byu needs some things that maybe they don't.
- 1:31:16Speaker 4: Have anymore we're talking about This with. Gordy again we
- 1:31:21Speaker 4: talked about It With. Jonathan tammornari this is a team
- 1:31:24Speaker 4: that came into the season with, a big fat payroll and,
- 1:31:28Speaker 4: a huge huge weight, of expectation and an Injury To
- 1:31:32Speaker 4: richie saunders certainly derails. Some, things honestly it's, not DISSIMILAR
- 1:31:36Speaker 4: and i know people don't like comparing the two schools.
- 1:31:39Speaker 4: Too aggressively it's not dissimilar from a couple of seasons
- 1:31:42Speaker 4: Ago when utah football thought that it was just going
- 1:31:45Speaker 4: to coast its way Into The Big twelve conference with all,
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: this talent and then injuries started to derail that and
- 1:31:51Speaker 4: suddenly a couple of losses pile up and all of,
- 1:31:53Speaker 4: a sudden you got nothing going for you and ended
- 1:31:56Speaker 4: up being a. Disastrous season now in the regular season
- 1:31:59Speaker 4: so FAR, for byu it hasn't been quite, that bad
- 1:32:03Speaker 4: but they got to figure some.
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: Things. Out, man yeah They're.
- 1:32:06Speaker 4: Got iowa, state still They Got, texas Tech Although texas
- 1:32:08Speaker 4: tech is not quite as dangerous because of injuries. As,
- 1:32:11Speaker 4: well uh you've got a less than simple schedule to
- 1:32:16Speaker 4: close out your, regular season and now you've shown some
- 1:32:19Speaker 4: vulnerabilities and you've been on a bit of a. Cold
- 1:32:21Speaker 4: streak admittedly against really really good teams in.
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: This conference but, guess what that's what you meet in the.
- 1:32:27Speaker 4: Conference tournament there's you're gonna get past your first round
- 1:32:31Speaker 4: game against, you Know the baylors of, the world Or
- 1:32:35Speaker 4: the colorado's of, the world Or the utahs of, the
- 1:32:37Speaker 4: world and then your next round game is gonna be
- 1:32:39Speaker 4: against the top twenty five team, most likely and the
- 1:32:42Speaker 4: rest of the way you're gonna be facing attack just top,
- 1:32:44Speaker 4: twenty five but potential final. Four teams that's how Deep This,
- 1:32:48Speaker 4: big Twelve this big twelve conference is. This year, so
- 1:32:51Speaker 4: yeah and and in the CASE of, byu basketball at
- 1:32:55Speaker 4: least this year they're at least in a position where
- 1:32:57Speaker 4: they're still gonna make The. Tournament, utah unfortunately in that
- 1:33:02Speaker 4: first year In The big twelve, in football there's not an,
- 1:33:05Speaker 4: expanded tournament so they but that, was online but they
- 1:33:08Speaker 4: missed the bowl game LIKE they byu basketball is still
- 1:33:11Speaker 4: in much better position than you to football in.
- 1:33:13Speaker 5: That case but analogy. Drives up it's.
- 1:33:15Speaker 4: Pretty disappointing it's really only an expectations, related thing because,
- 1:33:19Speaker 4: you know there was and we listened to IT and
- 1:33:22Speaker 4: i perpetuated it in, some ways especially in the early
- 1:33:24Speaker 4: SEASON when i was looking at this ROSTER and i
- 1:33:26Speaker 4: was looking to the fact that they.
- 1:33:27Speaker 5: Went out they didn't just Add.
- 1:33:28Speaker 4: Aj debonsa they grabbed the best available point guard and
- 1:33:32Speaker 4: paid him like four million bucks to get.
- 1:33:34Speaker 5: In THERE and i was, Just like richie, came Back.
- 1:33:36Speaker 4: And richie, was Back And keba keada is the perfect
- 1:33:39Speaker 4: compliment to those types. Of players he doesn't, need possessions
- 1:33:43Speaker 4: he doesn't. Need points he wants put. Back baskets he
- 1:33:46Speaker 4: wants to get in your. Face defensively if he's gonna
- 1:33:49Speaker 4: have a, pro career it's going to be. Doing that
- 1:33:52Speaker 4: so he, Was like i'm, and again this is where
- 1:33:56Speaker 4: the death has become an issue because you're starting lineup
- 1:33:58Speaker 4: left very very little to, be desired and then the
- 1:34:01Speaker 4: death just. Didn't follow it didn't come THROUGH. For byu
- 1:34:05Speaker 4: and then when you, have injuries, you're like, oh wait
- 1:34:08Speaker 4: depth especially. Matters now and again they, Might Overperform kevin
- 1:34:13Speaker 4: young might put on a masterclass, in coaching but it's
- 1:34:16Speaker 4: not happening right this SECOND, for byu and it's not
- 1:34:20Speaker 4: looking particularly optimistic in the postseason.
- 1:34:24Speaker 6: For.
- 1:34:24Speaker 4: Now yeah and as we talked, ABOUT this byu team
- 1:34:30Speaker 4: went from the beginning of the season they could be
- 1:34:34Speaker 4: if they, could not not that they're expected, to be
- 1:34:37Speaker 4: but they could Be a final, four team right could
- 1:34:40Speaker 4: be analyit.
- 1:34:41Speaker 5: Eight team sweet sixteen at the.
- 1:34:43Speaker 4: Bare minimum as the season's, gone along, it's, like okay
- 1:34:48Speaker 4: and then the losses started to pile up a. Little Bit,
- 1:34:52Speaker 4: dawson baker the backup, point guard. Goes down, you're, like
- 1:34:55Speaker 4: okay maybe Maybe not final four is maybe not, as
- 1:34:58Speaker 4: Realistic but elite eight. Could Be still sweet sixteen seems like.
- 1:35:04Speaker 4: A lock and now we're to a point where It's
- 1:35:06Speaker 4: like sweet sixteen might be the could.
- 1:35:09Speaker 5: Be ceiling and, who knows like they could be.
- 1:35:12Speaker 4: A second they could be out in the first weekend
- 1:35:14Speaker 4: the way they're playing. Right now, but still THANKFULLY for
- 1:35:17Speaker 4: byu FANS and, bau basketball still got what four more
- 1:35:22Speaker 4: game three or four more games in the regular season
- 1:35:24Speaker 4: in a conference tournament to try to figure some things
- 1:35:27Speaker 4: out and adjust to these injury the latest Injury With
- 1:35:31Speaker 4: richie saunders being out for.
- 1:35:32Speaker 5: The year we talked about this earlier in.
- 1:35:35Speaker 4: The Week The Ronda Rousey gina carano comeback fight for
- 1:35:38Speaker 4: both Women For gina carno first competition. Seventeen years there's
- 1:35:43Speaker 4: a lot. Of reasons this is interesting if you're into.
- 1:35:45Speaker 4: Combat sports most of the reasons are not like an
- 1:35:49Speaker 4: actual hate this is going to be a great fight.
- 1:35:51Speaker 4: Type REASON but espn is reporting that there's going to
- 1:35:56Speaker 4: be extra testing done on both fighters to make sure
- 1:36:00Speaker 4: that they're healthy enough to. Do this so IF Your
- 1:36:02Speaker 4: Mvp Promotions jake paul is the OWNER Of mvp promotions
- 1:36:06Speaker 4: or the co OWNER Of, mvp promotions you're probably sweating
- 1:36:10Speaker 4: this out at least a. Little bit because of the
- 1:36:14Speaker 4: concussion History That ronda rousey made everyone in the world.
- 1:36:19Speaker 4: Aware of she hasn't done that, many interviews but this
- 1:36:24Speaker 4: is something that fighters especially are, guilty of where you
- 1:36:29Speaker 4: want to tell everyone it actually drives me nuts about
- 1:36:32Speaker 4: the culture of. The sport you want to tell everyone
- 1:36:34Speaker 4: how miserable the experience of being a. Fighter is you
- 1:36:37Speaker 4: want to impress everyone with just how tough you are
- 1:36:40Speaker 4: and how much, you overcame and how difficult it is
- 1:36:43Speaker 4: to be an elite level mixed. Martial artists there's a
- 1:36:45Speaker 4: certain level of INSECURITY in mma about how hard the sport,
- 1:36:50Speaker 4: actually is even though if you've, done it you know
- 1:36:53Speaker 4: how incredibly difficult.
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: It is because there's a.
- 1:36:56Speaker 4: Lot, of people a lot of average sports fans don't
- 1:36:58Speaker 4: have a deep understanding of the nuance and the intricacies
- 1:37:02Speaker 4: of all the things you have to try, to master
- 1:37:04Speaker 4: all the things you have to try to be, good
- 1:37:05Speaker 4: at in addition to being in the best shape of,
- 1:37:08Speaker 4: your life like and, so fighters they overcompensate by being like,
- 1:37:13Speaker 4: in interviews by, being like do you REALIZE what i
- 1:37:16Speaker 4: did to?
- 1:37:16Speaker 5: Overcome this.
- 1:37:18Speaker 4: And the mistake Made, by ronda and she's certainly not
- 1:37:22Speaker 4: alone in, this category is that you tell people a
- 1:37:25Speaker 4: lot more about your medical history than you really want,
- 1:37:27Speaker 4: people knowing like she has made a bunch of claims
- 1:37:33Speaker 4: about she wrote, a book a memoir and talks about
- 1:37:40Speaker 4: how many concussions she had going all the way back
- 1:37:42Speaker 4: to when she was a, judo competitor and how she
- 1:37:47Speaker 4: couldn't like see properly after, certain fights and how she
- 1:37:51Speaker 4: had incredible sensitivity to light and sound and all these
- 1:37:55Speaker 4: postconcussion symptoms that are of course related to long term.
- 1:37:59Speaker 4: Brain health and anyone who's, reading this any, medical professional any,
- 1:38:03Speaker 4: sanctioning body is looking at it and, going, like well that's.
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: Not good how do we make sure that she?
- 1:38:09Speaker 6: Was?
- 1:38:09Speaker 4: Healthy right you just have to be careful in putting
- 1:38:14Speaker 4: this stuff, out there and fighters. Are not they're casual
- 1:38:17Speaker 4: about it because they want to impress people, with, LIKE
- 1:38:21Speaker 4: well i did something you would. NEVER do, I fought
- 1:38:23Speaker 4: i TRAINED when i, Had CONCUSSIONS like i cut weight
- 1:38:27Speaker 4: one day so hard that my kidney's shut DOWN and
- 1:38:30Speaker 4: i had to go to. The hospital and, it's, like okay,
- 1:38:32Speaker 4: like cool it's not the badge of honor that you think.
- 1:38:36Speaker 4: It IS and i FEEL like i can say THAT
- 1:38:39Speaker 4: because i went through a lot of the. Same, stuff
- 1:38:42Speaker 4: hey you, did IT and i don't FEEL like i
- 1:38:44Speaker 4: needed to tell everyone about it all. The, time like
- 1:38:47Speaker 4: if you, Ask me i'll tell you. The truth but
- 1:38:50Speaker 4: did you have any like serious or almost serious hospitalization or?
- 1:38:55Speaker 4: ALMOST hospitalization i had precautionary hot like they sent me
- 1:38:59Speaker 4: to the hospital after couple of fights unnecessarily because they,
- 1:39:02Speaker 4: were like no way you could get hit that many
- 1:39:04Speaker 4: times and not. Be, concussed well you talked about that
- 1:39:06Speaker 4: was kind of your style, To YEA and i JUST
- 1:39:10Speaker 4: like i got a.
- 1:39:11Speaker 2: Concrete brain it, doesn't.
- 1:39:12Speaker 4: Matter right so the medical professionals in, combat sports it's
- 1:39:17Speaker 4: a really weird balance because like sanctioning bodies rely on
- 1:39:23Speaker 4: the commentary, Of, doctors, right hey is this? Person good
- 1:39:28Speaker 4: you have to get your eyes checked if you're in this,
- 1:39:30Speaker 4: age category both of these women in you have to
- 1:39:32Speaker 4: get your, heart checked and as long as everything comes
- 1:39:36Speaker 4: back close, to normal the doctors are.
- 1:39:38Speaker 2: Gonna, be, like yeah, all right let. Them compete and
- 1:39:40Speaker 2: then the.
- 1:39:40Speaker 4: Sanctioning body it's in the best interest of whatever promotion
- 1:39:45Speaker 4: to be partnered with a. Sanctioning body, that's, like Yeah
- 1:39:48Speaker 4: The California State athletic commission wants you to pay the.
- 1:39:53Speaker 4: Licensing fee they want you to pay whatever fees. Are
- 1:39:56Speaker 4: associated they want to, generate revenue so they kind of
- 1:39:59Speaker 4: don't actually care about. These fighters they just have to
- 1:40:03Speaker 4: show that they're taking some precautions here because this is high,
- 1:40:06Speaker 4: profile now and these are two very high.
- 1:40:08Speaker 5: Profile women oh and by, the Way.
- 1:40:10Speaker 4: If gina carano between now in this fight signs like
- 1:40:12Speaker 4: a contract Renewal with disney to be Back In, star
- 1:40:16Speaker 4: wars then she goes and gets concussed and can't remember.
- 1:40:20Speaker 5: Her lines now you're in a Fight with. Disney AGAIN
- 1:40:24Speaker 5: so i.
- 1:40:24Speaker 4: Don't know it's just they're going to do an extra
- 1:40:27Speaker 4: battery of, tests neurological especially on, the brains of both of.
- 1:40:34Speaker 4: These fighters you have to get and this is by,
- 1:40:36Speaker 4: THE way i Fought. In, california okay you have to GET,
- 1:40:41Speaker 4: an mri you have to GET, an ekg you have
- 1:40:44Speaker 4: to get blood work to show that you don't have,
- 1:40:47Speaker 4: any issues and you have to get an eye exam
- 1:40:54Speaker 4: from a licensed ophthalmologist saying that your vision.
- 1:40:57Speaker 2: Is normal.
- 1:41:01Speaker 6: Good.
- 1:41:01Speaker 5: Luck everyone oh. That's it.
- 1:41:05Speaker 4: I'm sure there will be no issues with a forty
- 1:41:07Speaker 4: three year old passing of all of. These things there. Shouldn't,
- 1:41:09Speaker 4: be honestly there. Shouldn't be but she's also had a,
- 1:41:13Speaker 4: fighting career So, who.
- 1:41:14Speaker 5: Like, for ronda.
- 1:41:17Speaker 4: You're probably Going back, and, LIKE man I wish i
- 1:41:19Speaker 4: hadn't said that in. THAT interview i actually did this
- 1:41:22Speaker 4: to myself inadvertently one TIME because i made a joke
- 1:41:25Speaker 4: in a post. Fight interview it had been a really, crazy,
- 1:41:27Speaker 4: fight right and, they're, like oh when you knock this
- 1:41:30Speaker 4: guy down in, this round did you know that he
- 1:41:31Speaker 4: was almost? Finished WHATEVER and i, was, Like man i'd
- 1:41:34Speaker 4: barely remember what happened in the fight because it had
- 1:41:36Speaker 4: been AND like i.
- 1:41:37Speaker 2: Did, remember yeah but they gave, the impression and they.
- 1:41:45Speaker 4: Gave me they added a month to my medical suspension because,
- 1:41:48Speaker 4: of THAT which I guess i should be grateful for
- 1:41:51Speaker 4: because they were paying attention but at least taking. Some precaution,
- 1:41:56Speaker 4: BUT yeah i COULD see i could see them sactionity
- 1:41:59Speaker 4: boards and board to be like that sounds like. He's, concussed, like.
- 1:42:02Speaker 2: Oh that kind doesn't. Remember, anything okay that's. Not good.
- 1:42:07Speaker 4: ALL right i think we might have a brand new
- 1:42:09Speaker 4: rivalry in sports that we have to pay.
- 1:42:11Speaker 2: Attention. To james the State of indiana And the State.
- 1:42:15Speaker 4: Of iowa Not Necessarily indiana university And the University, of
- 1:42:20Speaker 4: iowa but both Of These middle america START with i
- 1:42:25Speaker 4: states are trying to Get The chicago bears out Of Another.
- 1:42:29Speaker 4: Middle america START with i state that happens to be.
- 1:42:33Speaker 4: Between them iowa Wants The. Chicago bears indiana Wants The Chicago.
- 1:42:38Speaker 4: Bears chicago illinois Wants The. Chicago bears the State. Of
- 1:42:44Speaker 4: indiana the lawmakers In Their house Ways And means committee whatever,
- 1:42:51Speaker 4: that is have unanimously approved an amendment To The Indiana
- 1:42:54Speaker 4: state bill twenty seven that would clear a path For
- 1:42:58Speaker 4: the bears to build a Stadium, In. Hammond, indiana remember,
- 1:43:04Speaker 4: oh yeah the bustling Metropolis, Of. Hammond indiana i'm gonna
- 1:43:08Speaker 4: look up Ham in indiana. RIGHT now i want to
- 1:43:11Speaker 4: know exactly what this place. Is about how does, This
- 1:43:14Speaker 4: compare How does hammond Compare? To daybreak just as, an
- 1:43:18Speaker 4: example so, at all so probably much more realistic for
- 1:43:23Speaker 4: Ham in indiana to be. A Possibility, like iowa you
- 1:43:26Speaker 4: have to drive three hours to Get from Chicago. To iowa,
- 1:43:30Speaker 4: all right Ham in indiana is actually like a Suburb.
- 1:43:35Speaker 4: Of chicago so it's It's Like south. Bendish area then
- 1:43:40Speaker 4: that's pretty Close to chicago. AS well i mean it's
- 1:43:43Speaker 4: actually way Closer, to chicago Like proper chicago downtown than
- 1:43:49Speaker 4: to Than Than.
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: South bend is?
- 1:43:51Speaker 4: It is, it, Is Right, so chicago hold on Ham
- 1:43:56Speaker 4: in Indiana to chicago drive.
- 1:44:01Speaker 5: It's thirty.
- 1:44:01Speaker 2: Five.
- 1:44:01Speaker 4: Minutes okay this is Like The utah jazz wanting to
- 1:44:05Speaker 4: build Something In.
- 1:44:07Speaker 5: Lehigh so this.
- 1:44:09Speaker 4: Is something If, you're chicago you're Still The chicago BEARS.
- 1:44:13Speaker 5: Because, i mean but You're.
- 1:44:14Speaker 4: In indiana the nearest the nearest city on, this map
- 1:44:19Speaker 4: that of course is one hundred. Percent accurate the nearest
- 1:44:21Speaker 4: city to Ham in indiana is Called Is, East. Chicago,
- 1:44:24Speaker 4: INDIANA oh i mean it's literally contiguous. Metropolitan area it
- 1:44:31Speaker 4: is EXACTLY what.
- 1:44:32Speaker 5: I, Just said chicago. Border, town yes it's just on
- 1:44:37Speaker 5: the south End Of lake.
- 1:44:38Speaker 4: Michigan Instead so indiana trying to Steal the Bears, from
- 1:44:42Speaker 4: illinois and this is where it gets. Really pernicious and
- 1:44:46Speaker 4: if you're, an owner you're, just, Like well i'm Still In,
- 1:44:49Speaker 4: Chicago land like.
- 1:44:51Speaker 2: This is still this is just.
- 1:44:52Speaker 4: The burbs so If, you're illinois you should take this very, very,
- 1:44:56Speaker 4: seriously absolutely way probably way more than way more seriously
- 1:45:01Speaker 4: than The iowad in Respect, To bettendorf iowa that we
- 1:45:04Speaker 4: talked about. Last week my Family has. IOWAN roots i would.
- 1:45:07Speaker 4: Never disrespect they.
- 1:45:08Speaker 2: Can't Stay.
- 1:45:09Speaker 4: Possibly heaven it might be if they built It, in
- 1:45:14Speaker 4: dyersville which is where The actual Field of.
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: Dreams, is.
- 1:45:18Speaker 4: Yeah but this one is this one is, for. Real
- 1:45:22Speaker 4: man this is like close, Close, Close, Yeah. Hammond indiana
- 1:45:28Speaker 4: see when you put it in terms of it's like
- 1:45:31Speaker 4: it's like the jazz Going, to lehigh it still. Feels, gross,
- 1:45:36Speaker 4: well yeah we would hate if If you're chicago in you're,
- 1:45:39Speaker 4: probably like even though it's still right Next, to chicago
- 1:45:44Speaker 4: that probably.
- 1:45:45Speaker 5: Feels gross it probably feels.
- 1:45:46Speaker 4: So disgusting because it Cannot Like soldier field could not
- 1:45:50Speaker 4: be Any more chicago than it. Already is it is,
- 1:45:53Speaker 4: Right there it Is. In chicago it is Next To.
- 1:45:57Speaker 4: Chicago landmarks it is on the Shore Of. Lake michigan
- 1:46:01Speaker 4: it is. Right there so That's The delta center. Right
- 1:46:07Speaker 4: now the thing is chicagoans would know and we would
- 1:46:10Speaker 4: know if you Moved the jazz Down, to, Lehigh right
- 1:46:15Speaker 4: but the average, Television audience.
- 1:46:17Speaker 5: Oh yeah they're not.
- 1:46:17Speaker 4: Gonna know they're not, gonna know they're not, gonna care Especially,
- 1:46:21Speaker 4: in utah by, the way because all they would do
- 1:46:22Speaker 4: they do the external arena, shot right and then they'd
- 1:46:26Speaker 4: zoom up and out and it's just the Mountains and i'm,
- 1:46:28Speaker 4: just like, oh yeah That's Sal.
- 1:46:29Speaker 2: Lake.
- 1:46:29Speaker 4: City, yeah well you know when they're gonna do the
- 1:46:32Speaker 4: down the b roll, of downtown the shot of From The,
- 1:46:35Speaker 4: capitol Hill From capitol hill that they, always.
- 1:46:37Speaker 5: Do like they always do It For, san francisco and they'll.
- 1:46:39Speaker 4: Do that they'll do that If the bears end up Moving, To,
- 1:46:43Speaker 4: hammond indiana they'll Show, downtown chicago so all of us will,
- 1:46:47Speaker 4: be like, oh yeah they're still Basically. In chicago they
- 1:46:50Speaker 4: would do that if it. Was in if it, was
- 1:46:52Speaker 4: in it's a. Bettendor file is that? The name if,
- 1:46:55Speaker 4: they didn't if they moved, it there they'd still, do
- 1:46:58Speaker 4: that even though that to locals that would.
- 1:47:01Speaker 5: Be ridiculous so keep an, Eye. Out chicago head ON A.
- 1:47:07Speaker 4: Swivel illinois indiana's coming from, them Bears The chicago Bears.
- 1:47:13Speaker 4: In indiana this would be a great OPPORTUNITY.
- 1:47:17Speaker 5: For, l yeah great OPPORTUNITY.
- 1:47:20Speaker 4: FOR snl i didn't Know that chicago Was in indiana this.
- 1:47:24Speaker 5: WHOLE time.
- 1:47:27Speaker 4: I actually really dislike when they when they do that
- 1:47:30Speaker 4: thing where there's like there's a city and then there's
- 1:47:34Speaker 4: another city that's an actual municipality of real city that's
- 1:47:38Speaker 4: just a directional version of, that city you KNOW what.
- 1:47:41Speaker 4: I mean illinois has two, of these by, The, Way, Illinois, indiana,
- 1:47:47Speaker 4: Missouri Whatever, East. Chicago, indiana YEAH and i Think It's East, Saint.
- 1:47:54Speaker 5: Louis, illinois yeah they, have right but.
- 1:47:56Speaker 4: That The East Saint louis is actually that Is a
- 1:47:59Speaker 4: saint is a true. Border town though at least right
- 1:48:02Speaker 4: that's still basically In The, Saint louis. Missouri city so
- 1:48:06Speaker 4: This is i've hated THIS since i was a young
- 1:48:09Speaker 4: child because my parents are from a lovely little town
- 1:48:12Speaker 4: On The mississippi River, Called. Debuke Iowa, all Right The
- 1:48:17Speaker 4: mississippi river serves as the border the eastern Border of
- 1:48:21Speaker 4: iowa and the western Border. Of, illinois right you drive
- 1:48:24Speaker 4: across the Bridge, From, dubuque iowa toward, the east going Back,
- 1:48:29Speaker 4: to chicago and guess what city. You're in as soon
- 1:48:32Speaker 4: as you cross, The bridge You're In. East dubuque, you?
- 1:48:36Speaker 4: Know annoying that is annoying. You terrible it's just like
- 1:48:40Speaker 4: you can't even come up with your own. City name
- 1:48:42Speaker 4: what if? This is this Is like spence check its. Whole,
- 1:48:45Speaker 4: Vibe right he's, just, like Well There's Salt, lake city
- 1:48:48Speaker 4: And there's South Salt. Lake, City sorry South. SALT lakers
- 1:48:51Speaker 4: i don't like, the name. All right and Then There's,
- 1:48:54Speaker 4: extra south which Is. Now Sandy there's North, Salt lake Extreme. Salt,
- 1:48:58Speaker 4: lake like, COME on i don't like directional City name North,
- 1:49:02Speaker 4: salt lake which is somehow not In Salt. Lake county
- 1:49:05Speaker 4: It's In, davis County In davis county suburb Border Of.
- 1:49:09Speaker 4: Davis county it's because.
- 1:49:11Speaker 5: It's eight seven seven three five three zero.
- 1:49:14Speaker 4: SEVEN hundred i need a different name Suggestion For South
- 1:49:17Speaker 4: salt lake and a different name Suggestion for North. SALT
- 1:49:20Speaker 4: lake i want to abolish. This PRACTICE and i don't
- 1:49:22Speaker 4: know if There's A north provo Or A south. PROVO
- 1:49:24Speaker 4: or i don't think there is Also A.
- 1:49:25Speaker 2: West, Bountiful see i've Been To. West bountiful it's.
- 1:49:32Speaker 4: Very confusing uh when if you're not from That Little
- 1:49:37Speaker 4: Bountiful woods cross area, to, go Wait Is west bountiful
- 1:49:43Speaker 4: its own city.
- 1:49:44Speaker 2: Or the western Part.
- 1:49:46Speaker 5: Of bountifores it's just, An area like Like where.
- 1:49:48Speaker 4: I'm From In, saint george you have You, have bloomington
- 1:49:51Speaker 4: which is not its, own city but it's it's got its. Own,
- 1:49:54Speaker 4: Name yeah so if you're Not From, saint george You
- 1:49:58Speaker 4: think bloomington must.
- 1:49:59Speaker 5: Be a a.
- 1:50:00Speaker 4: Suburb city, it's, like no it's Just an it's just
- 1:50:03Speaker 4: a big Area Of. Saint george you, know, what though
- 1:50:05Speaker 4: it's better than Calling It West saint george or whatever.
- 1:50:08Speaker 4: It is definitely It'd be you didn't EVEN know i
- 1:50:11Speaker 4: had a problem.
- 1:50:11Speaker 5: WITH this i should have saved it for the airing
- 1:50:13Speaker 5: of grievance and bring it. Back tomorrow.
- 1:50:17Speaker 4: The bears, all right lots left to get to On
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- 1:53:53Speaker 4: Curl, curl Okay now. I'm interested we got a curl are?
- 1:54:00Speaker 4: Curling insider do you have any? Curling updates how's it
- 1:54:05Speaker 4: goes until it goes for the next couple, of days
- 1:54:08Speaker 4: basically till. THE end i did not realize THIS until
- 1:54:12Speaker 4: i became the curling expert for This. Year's games but,
- 1:54:14Speaker 4: they started they have mixed doubles at, the beginning and
- 1:54:17Speaker 4: then they transition to men's AND women's uh, team curling,
- 1:54:22Speaker 4: and yeah it spans the whole two and a half,
- 1:54:25Speaker 4: three weeks so, that's uh that's quite a long time
- 1:54:28Speaker 4: that they do some. Curling there At The. Winter olympics
- 1:54:31Speaker 4: the women's round robin finished. Up TODAY team Usa beat
- 1:54:35Speaker 4: switzerland seven, To six Canada Beat south korea ten, To
- 1:54:39Speaker 4: seven Japan beat china nine. To Six great Britain beat
- 1:54:45Speaker 4: italy seven. To four the semi finals, are tomorrow so.
- 1:54:49Speaker 4: They jump they don't do a quarterfinals. In curling they
- 1:54:52Speaker 4: go from the, prominary round which they call, round robin
- 1:54:55Speaker 4: to the semis and they have the gold medal game semis.
- 1:54:57Speaker 4: Or TOMORROW team usa a rematch With swists zzerland that
- 1:55:00Speaker 4: they JUST like, i said they just beat them seven
- 1:55:02Speaker 4: to six today And then Canada versus sweden. A rematch
- 1:55:08Speaker 4: so the men on the men's side is when the
- 1:55:10Speaker 4: is is where the cheating controversy was Exposed. By sweden
- 1:55:14Speaker 4: this is like the women's now now the the first
- 1:55:18Speaker 4: time the women's team Has faced sweden, Since then so
- 1:55:22Speaker 4: that's that'll be that ought to. Be juicy men's round
- 1:55:26Speaker 4: Robin today Chechia beat sweden ten, To four Switzerland beat
- 1:55:32Speaker 4: italy nine, To five Germany beat china six, to FOUR
- 1:55:37Speaker 4: and i gotta double. Check THIS they i think have
- 1:55:40Speaker 4: their semis. Starting, today yeah those are in progress. Right
- 1:55:48Speaker 4: now So great Britain and sweden tied four to four
- 1:55:51Speaker 4: in the. Seventh ends they only got three more ends,
- 1:55:55Speaker 4: left there so that's a tight one playing for.
- 1:55:58Speaker 5: A medal.
- 1:56:00Speaker 2: And then Norway.
- 1:56:01Speaker 4: And canada Canada leading norway three to one in the,
- 1:56:05Speaker 4: eighth end very low.
- 1:56:06Speaker 5: Scoring There.
- 1:56:10Speaker 4: United states on the, men's side as you, just heard
- 1:56:12Speaker 4: did not make it to the, elimination rounds so, that's
- 1:56:15Speaker 4: unfortunate but the Winner of so it Looks like canada
- 1:56:20Speaker 4: possibly in the men's gold medal game if this score.
- 1:56:23Speaker 4: Holds up and then And then England and switzerland playing
- 1:56:28Speaker 4: for that other for the chance to to for the
- 1:56:31Speaker 4: chance To play canada if the scorees.
- 1:56:34Speaker 5: Hold up here.
- 1:56:36Speaker 4: Have you seen the throwback highlight footage of early curling In.
- 1:56:41Speaker 4: The olympics by, the way on anything that they've gone,
- 1:56:43Speaker 4: back to it, is wild as the expert of embarrassed,
- 1:56:47Speaker 4: TO say i. Have, not okay it's wild to see
- 1:56:49Speaker 4: and you can you can go down this rapid hole if.
- 1:56:51Speaker 4: YOU want i know that equipment in every sport has
- 1:56:54Speaker 4: obviously changed quite a bit with. Technological advances they were
- 1:56:59Speaker 4: drawbroom or something legitimately until like the, late eighties people
- 1:57:05Speaker 4: were using like witches brooms that's to.
- 1:57:08Speaker 2: Do curling because now it's not even really. A broom
- 1:57:12Speaker 2: it's more of.
- 1:57:12Speaker 4: A mop it's it's like a it's like, aw mop
- 1:57:15Speaker 4: it's like a, swiffer mop, totally, rigid right and it's
- 1:57:21Speaker 4: like no bristles.
- 1:57:22Speaker 2: At all it's it's a. Fabric, bunge yeah fabric.
- 1:57:25Speaker 4: Type thing the the old, curling tournaments everyone's running around
- 1:57:31Speaker 4: on the ice with witches brooms and and when, THEY'RE
- 1:57:34Speaker 4: sweeping i mean these things are bending like.
- 1:57:37Speaker 2: In half it's it's.
- 1:57:38Speaker 3: Corn straw it's literally like like a like a.
- 1:57:43Speaker 4: Fake decorative halloween broom back in like in. The eighties
- 1:57:50Speaker 4: that could, be why AND maybe i maybe my research
- 1:57:55Speaker 4: came up in correct OR what i found came up
- 1:57:58Speaker 4: incorrect here the records were, in CORRECT but I mentioned
- 1:58:02Speaker 4: yestery or Was it monday when we were talking about
- 1:58:04Speaker 4: the weekend. Cheating scandal how there's only the curling has
- 1:58:09Speaker 4: only been In the olympics for, eight years not for,
- 1:58:12Speaker 4: eight years But eight, olympic Cycles and canada has meddled
- 1:58:18Speaker 4: in six. Of them there was at LEAST what i
- 1:58:21Speaker 4: found it was In the olympics in like nineteen, twenty
- 1:58:24Speaker 4: something and then it wasn't In the olympics again until nineteen.
- 1:58:28Speaker 5: Ninety eight maybe that had something to do.
- 1:58:29Speaker 4: With it it's like you guys have you guys are using,
- 1:58:33Speaker 4: kitchen brooms like update.
- 1:58:35Speaker 2: Your equipment maybe we'll bring you back to the.
- 1:58:37Speaker 5: Big.
- 1:58:37Speaker 4: Stage here i'm on a curling supply website right Now
- 1:58:42Speaker 4: and i'm looking At the Ladies, Curl Master, vintage Broom curl,
- 1:58:48Speaker 4: master eight a Used curl master in, fair condition and
- 1:58:52Speaker 4: A curl master in very. Good condition these are vintage
- 1:58:56Speaker 4: curling brooms that are. For Resale the Ladies curl master
- 1:59:01Speaker 4: is going for one hundred and forty bucks, right now
- 1:59:04Speaker 4: and it is it is exactly what you think. It
- 1:59:08Speaker 4: is it's just a broom with the long like old
- 1:59:14Speaker 4: McDonald's corn, straw bristles and they used to. Use THIS
- 1:59:20Speaker 4: that's i said that so tongue in cheek and there's
- 1:59:23Speaker 4: no way they actually use.
- 1:59:24Speaker 5: That kind of A b this is.
- 1:59:25Speaker 4: The advertisement corn brooms were standard curling equipment into the,
- 1:59:29Speaker 4: late eighties when the transition to fabric covered brushes finally made.
- 1:59:32Speaker 4: Them obsolete makes a great gift for that special curler in.
- 1:59:36Speaker 4: YOUR life i will tell, you this gentlemen, out there ladies,
- 1:59:39Speaker 4: out there if you show up at your house and,
- 1:59:43Speaker 4: SAY hey i got you a PRESENT because i know
- 1:59:45Speaker 4: you love curling and it's a vintage, curling broom it
- 1:59:48Speaker 4: is not going to go over All. That well This
- 1:59:51Speaker 4: is they're, Not, nice okay these are crappy old brooms
- 1:59:55Speaker 4: and and probably do not bring that To The salt
- 1:59:58Speaker 4: lake Or The utah curl whatever whatever.
- 2:00:01Speaker 5: IT'S called i would.
- 2:00:02Speaker 4: Love to see someone grab one, of these put on
- 2:00:06Speaker 4: like a, bowler hat wear a three piece suit and some,
- 2:00:10Speaker 4: you know leather, soled shoes and just head. Out, There
- 2:00:13Speaker 4: bully i've showed up for.
- 2:00:14Speaker 2: The curling.
- 2:00:16Speaker 5: See see how people react.
- 2:00:18Speaker 4: To you, YOU know, i say young whipper snappers playing
- 2:00:22Speaker 4: this game nowadays. Really incredible, all right that's five and a.
- 2:00:26Speaker 4: Half minutes canada is on a. Power play, oh see
- 2:00:29Speaker 4: up one nothing and they just had a shot on
- 2:00:32Speaker 4: goals Save FOR.
- 2:00:34Speaker 5: Team usa that's that's what we.
- 2:00:35Speaker 4: Want there but this could Be a this is the,
- 2:00:39Speaker 4: precarious spot to say the Least FOR.
- 2:00:41Speaker 5: Team usa they.
- 2:00:42Speaker 4: Got less than a minute left in this. POWER play
- 2:00:44Speaker 4: i Think that canada is going to squander. This OPPORTUNITY
- 2:00:47Speaker 4: team usa is going to come roaring back as we
- 2:00:50Speaker 4: get underneath this five. Minute mark they're going to score
- 2:00:53Speaker 4: two goals in regulation and they're going to get the
- 2:00:55Speaker 4: gold medal without even having to go. To overtime LET'S, go.
- 2:00:59Speaker 4: Usa lady from your Lips to. God's ears, oh see
- 2:01:02Speaker 4: we have to have another Conversation About, darren peterson in some,
- 2:01:07Speaker 4: people's mind projected number. One Overall pick bill's self is
- 2:01:11Speaker 4: putting on a masterclass in saying what he wants to
- 2:01:14Speaker 4: say without saying what he wants.
- 2:01:16Speaker 5: To say after every one of these.
- 2:01:20Speaker 4: Performances Where darren peterson last night For The kansas jayhawks
- 2:01:25Speaker 4: scored twenty points in the, first half he ended up
- 2:01:29Speaker 4: playing just a couple minutes in the second half and then,
- 2:01:32Speaker 4: He's like. I'm cramping you got to take me out of.
- 2:01:34Speaker 4: The Game and bill's self after the game, is, like,
- 2:01:37Speaker 4: hey look. It's frustrating we thought we were. Past this
- 2:01:41Speaker 4: he's not throwing his player under, the bus but he
- 2:01:45Speaker 4: clearly doesn't buy it that the guy's.
- 2:01:47Speaker 2: Really Cramping.
- 2:01:49Speaker 4: Darren peterson is playing himself into a very strange no
- 2:01:55Speaker 4: man's land from a, REPUTATION standpoint i actually don't think
- 2:01:59Speaker 4: it's going to hurt him in any. Measurable way when
- 2:02:02Speaker 4: it comes TO the, NBA draft i still think he's
- 2:02:05Speaker 4: going to be the number, one pick Don't YOU because,
- 2:02:07Speaker 4: I DO and i hate that because this is the
- 2:02:11Speaker 4: ultimate flaw of professional sports. Front offices you become so
- 2:02:16Speaker 4: incredibly enamored with potential over. Everything, else Well And kurt
- 2:02:21Speaker 4: signetti pushed back against this in college sports with his
- 2:02:25Speaker 4: roster Management. At indiana he kept saying production, over potential production,
- 2:02:29Speaker 4: over potential because everyone falls in love with, rod ability,
- 2:02:33Speaker 4: with talent, with height, with traits and you can sometimes
- 2:02:40Speaker 4: overlook a really good player because, of, IT right, i
- 2:02:43Speaker 4: mean like, there's countless countless examples of players that, are,
- 2:02:48Speaker 4: overlooked underdrafted not drafted. At all because they don't have that. Measurable,
- 2:02:54Speaker 4: thing now the problem is the counterpoint, is, that well
- 2:02:58Speaker 4: there's also countless examples of guys that do have those
- 2:03:02Speaker 4: measurables and they end up living up to. The hype
- 2:03:05Speaker 4: and when you are able to get one of those
- 2:03:06Speaker 4: guys and you get the most out of, that guy it's.
- 2:03:09Speaker 2: A, truly remarkable.
- 2:03:11Speaker 4: Special thing we're Talking about Victor, Webin yama we're Talking About,
- 2:03:15Speaker 4: MILES garrett, i mean fill in the blank with whoever.
- 2:03:18Speaker 4: You want first round draft picks and especially top five
- 2:03:22Speaker 4: draft picks are those picks for. A Reason But darren
- 2:03:26Speaker 4: peterson is in a SPOT that I don't i don't
- 2:03:30Speaker 4: remember the last time we had a guy where his
- 2:03:34Speaker 4: head coach in college had to dance around his availability.
- 2:03:38Speaker 4: Like This bill self has to Talk About darren peterson
- 2:03:42Speaker 4: the Way That will hardy has to Talk About, lowry
- 2:03:45Speaker 4: markinen where they're deliberately keeping him out to, lose games
- 2:03:51Speaker 4: making up minutes restrictions. And Such now self is like
- 2:03:56Speaker 4: he's on that line where, he's, Like look i'm frustrated,
- 2:03:58Speaker 4: by this but and this is where If You're, darren
- 2:04:01Speaker 4: peterson this has to.
- 2:04:02Speaker 5: BE killer i, don't know if.
- 2:04:03Speaker 4: HE cares i don't Know if i'm being completely unfair
- 2:04:06Speaker 4: to the guy and he has some kind of like.
- 2:04:08Speaker 4: Cramping Disorder but bill self, is, like look the good
- 2:04:12Speaker 4: thing is we're not unaccustomed. To this we've had to
- 2:04:14Speaker 4: play without him, a lot and so our guys are
- 2:04:18Speaker 4: good at playing. Without him that is the ultimate insult
- 2:04:23Speaker 4: to a. GREAT teammate, i mean they Beat. They, ARIZONA
- 2:04:27Speaker 4: actually i think they got two losses on the, year
- 2:04:29Speaker 4: now but they were undefeated until what last week and
- 2:04:32Speaker 4: there or maybe the, week before and their first loss
- 2:04:35Speaker 4: of the year was To A darren Peterson lists, kansas
- 2:04:38Speaker 4: team so they know they can beat the best team
- 2:04:42Speaker 4: in college basketball. Without him bill self ought ought to
- 2:04:46Speaker 4: feel confident, about that but you still want your best player. Out,
- 2:04:49Speaker 4: There also i'll give you another angle on this as
- 2:04:52Speaker 4: TO why nba front offices whichever team ends up with
- 2:04:56Speaker 4: the number, one pick, You. Know jazz If the jazz
- 2:05:00Speaker 4: somehow end up with the number, one pick which we would,
- 2:05:03Speaker 4: all love they're probably taking because of the local angle
- 2:05:07Speaker 4: there and Because Of ryan smith's direct hand In aj
- 2:05:10Speaker 4: debonsa being BEING. At BYU but. I digress everyone else
- 2:05:14Speaker 4: is Probably Taking, Darren peterson and the other reason why
- 2:05:19Speaker 4: is not just because being enamored with, potential overproduction but
- 2:05:24Speaker 4: also the fear of if we Take Aj Or, cam
- 2:05:28Speaker 4: boozer the other two top picks in this in, this
- 2:05:32Speaker 4: Draft And darren peterson somehow overcomes these weird cramping and
- 2:05:38Speaker 4: other things he's got going on that's made him miss
- 2:05:41Speaker 4: time and he ends up being the superstar that everyone
- 2:05:43Speaker 4: thought he could be if he, stayed healthy then we
- 2:05:48Speaker 4: we missed out on the best player on this on
- 2:05:51Speaker 4: this in, this class who probably who may even have
- 2:05:53Speaker 4: a better career than the than the really good guy.
- 2:05:55Speaker 5: We took Instead Aj Or. Cam RIGHT so i that's the.
- 2:06:00Speaker 4: Other thing the fear of missing out is a big
- 2:06:02Speaker 4: reason why teams will probably Still Pick.
- 2:06:05Speaker 5: Darren peterson Should ask.
- 2:06:06Speaker 4: Gordy this but we've already talked to Him About. DARREN
- 2:06:08Speaker 4: peterson i want to know what the reaction FROM an
- 2:06:12Speaker 4: nba team front office would be if AT the nba
- 2:06:16Speaker 4: combine you talk To A darren peterson and you're, just
- 2:06:20Speaker 4: like what's?
- 2:06:20Speaker 6: The?
- 2:06:20Speaker 2: Deal, man Oh, GO, USA.
- 2:06:25Speaker 4: Usa usa with the, rister here we're tied up at.
- 2:06:32Speaker 4: One baby Is That? Hillary knights she's the one. PUMPED
- 2:06:35Speaker 4: up i think. It's her think it was the Captain,
- 2:06:38Speaker 4: From Idaho, hillary valley right that She's From. Sun valley
- 2:06:43Speaker 4: she's one. Of us we're claiming her. The region she's in.
- 2:06:48Speaker 4: The region right at the blue line on top of,
- 2:06:51Speaker 4: the key a deflection off of nights stick edwards with
- 2:06:57Speaker 4: the rister and then the night hosted up in front
- 2:07:00Speaker 4: of the net with the little deflection changes the trajectory
- 2:07:03Speaker 4: bounces it up over. The left, shin pad let's. Go
- 2:07:08Speaker 4: baby we're tied up in the gold. Medal game two.
- 2:07:10Speaker 4: Minutes left they still got a shot to do what
- 2:07:12Speaker 4: you just spoke. Into existence, oh see to get have
- 2:07:16Speaker 4: a flurry a couple of goals here before.
- 2:07:18Speaker 5: The end that's so desperately want that.
- 2:07:22Speaker 2: To happen.
- 2:07:22Speaker 4: That's, Amazing, okay uh we were Talking About. DARREN peterson
- 2:07:27Speaker 4: i should Have asked, gordy this, if you as the,
- 2:07:30Speaker 4: player right are asked what's going on with the cramping
- 2:07:33Speaker 4: stuff with. Your unavailability if he, just SAYS and i
- 2:07:38Speaker 4: don't know if this, is true so only if, it's
- 2:07:40Speaker 4: true but if he, just, SAYS look i thought it was.
- 2:07:44Speaker 4: PRETTY silly i had to be in college BASKETBALL and
- 2:07:48Speaker 4: i was just doing my best to maintain my position
- 2:07:52Speaker 4: in the eyes OF the nba while not, risking anything
- 2:07:57Speaker 4: while not, risking injury while not playing too, many, minutes
- 2:08:00Speaker 4: well not putting miles on the. TIRES whatever i want
- 2:08:03Speaker 4: to know HOW the nba would would react, to that
- 2:08:06Speaker 4: if he was if there was reason for him to be,
- 2:08:08Speaker 4: this way if he just told this made up Truth
- 2:08:10Speaker 4: that i'm telling you, right now and he was, just, like,
- 2:08:13Speaker 4: LOOK man I don't i KNOW that i was treated WELL,
- 2:08:16Speaker 4: in NIL but i should have been able to go
- 2:08:18Speaker 4: straight TO. The nba AND so i was just protecting
- 2:08:21Speaker 4: my future by not playing the maximum amount of minutes in.
- 2:08:26Speaker 5: College basket what? Would happen?
- 2:08:28Speaker 4: Real Quick hillary night with that Goal FOR team usa,
- 2:08:31Speaker 4: Women's hockey she's now the leading goal Scorer in olympic.
- 2:08:36Speaker 4: Hockey history she was in a three way tie at
- 2:08:40Speaker 4: fourteen career Goals in. Olympic hockey now she stands alone
- 2:08:43Speaker 4: with fifteen. Career goals and we've got less than a
- 2:08:46Speaker 4: minute left face off in. The attacking it almost snuck
- 2:08:51Speaker 4: another one by inside the one. Minute mark, all right
- 2:08:54Speaker 4: we might be getting some free. Hockey here but let's
- 2:08:57Speaker 4: hope we can get a goal in the next forty
- 2:08:59Speaker 4: five seconds? Three hockey what did they do three on
- 2:09:02Speaker 4: three for the gold medal? GAME too i guess, we'll
- 2:09:04Speaker 4: see do?
- 2:09:06Speaker 2: Not know? Did you did?
- 2:09:07Speaker 4: You see by, The Way skip bayless's tweet about three on?
- 2:09:09Speaker 5: THREE hockey i.
- 2:09:11Speaker 4: Missed that, he was like you basically said three three
- 2:09:15Speaker 4: overtime games In the olympic hockey three on three is
- 2:09:18Speaker 4: better than five. On FIVE the nhl should, pay attention
- 2:09:22Speaker 4: and they already, do that, like next skip you moron
- 2:09:25Speaker 4: when they do the same that in the, Regular season
- 2:09:28Speaker 4: like what are?
- 2:09:29Speaker 7: You?
- 2:09:29Speaker 4: Doing skip why don't you just stay? With you they
- 2:09:32Speaker 4: probably did all another, scoring chants beautiful saves had left
- 2:09:38Speaker 4: the one timer with ten. Seconds left oh, my gosh
- 2:09:42Speaker 4: that was a. Great opportunity how did you? Do that canadian? Gold,
- 2:09:46Speaker 4: Tender oh i'm sure sweats out pure. Maple syrup.
- 2:09:53Speaker 2: Here's.
- 2:09:53Speaker 5: The replay Oh The JESUS am i reading?
- 2:09:57Speaker 6: That?
- 2:09:57Speaker 4: Right, NO no i. Know bad seems like a very
- 2:10:00Speaker 4: unlikely is like O'Brien's.
- 2:10:04Speaker 2: Or, something oh that's.
- 2:10:07Speaker 5: So great we got to take.
- 2:10:08Speaker 4: A Break gavin peterson's going to join us on the.
- 2:10:10Speaker 4: Other side the jersey was ruffled, and everything the tail we.
- 2:10:14Speaker 5: Get, it okay let's hold on a couple.
- 2:10:17Speaker 6: Of.
- 2:10:17Speaker 5: Seconds overtime regulation.
- 2:10:20Speaker 4: Is done we're going to overtime In the gold medal
- 2:10:22Speaker 4: game one one off the deflection goal by, The Captain.
- 2:10:28Speaker 2: Hillary knight let's, Go Baby.
- 2:10:31Speaker 4: Gavin, peterson next It's the Sean O'Connell SHOW on espn
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- 2:10:50Speaker 6: To me.
- 2:10:57Speaker 4: Tell me we away overtime In The gold, MEDAL game
- 2:11:02Speaker 4: Usa versus canada tied up at one. To One, Sun
- 2:11:06Speaker 4: Valley Idaho's hillary night tied it up with two.
- 2:11:08Speaker 2: Minutes left let's.
- 2:11:11Speaker 4: Go baby we talk a little women's hoops as well
- 2:11:14Speaker 4: as we await the overtime period In. The Olympics, gavin
- 2:11:18Speaker 4: peterson head Coach of utah, women's basketball kind of have
- 2:11:21Speaker 4: to stop by.
- 2:11:22Speaker 5: With, us coach how are?
- 2:11:23Speaker 6: You good how are YOU? Doing oc? Always good?
- 2:11:26Speaker 5: Being on are you able to catch up On these?
- 2:11:28Speaker 4: OLYMPIC games i mean it's right in the middle of,
- 2:11:30Speaker 4: your workday so can you can you like at least
- 2:11:32Speaker 4: THROW a tv on in the corner of the office
- 2:11:35Speaker 4: or something.
- 2:11:37Speaker 6: After you, said, That yes i'm about, to, okay cool,
- 2:11:39Speaker 6: All right well, than that it's just film and game
- 2:11:42Speaker 6: prep as.
- 2:11:43Speaker 5: We, go well and a big game that you're.
- 2:11:45Speaker 4: Prepping FOR it's byu, this weekend this one at home
- 2:11:48Speaker 4: two o'clock TIP On. Espn plus but of course if
- 2:11:51Speaker 4: you can get up there and see it. In person
- 2:11:54Speaker 4: you've already seen this team once. This year that was on,
- 2:11:57Speaker 4: the road tough one down there At. The marriotts but
- 2:12:01Speaker 4: what do you know ABOUT this byu team and what
- 2:12:02Speaker 4: are the adjustments you could make for the?
- 2:12:04Speaker 6: Second, meeting yeah, YOU know i thought when we were
- 2:12:07Speaker 6: down There, in provo we played a great. First half
- 2:12:10Speaker 6: we're executing our game plan both on offense. And defense
- 2:12:14Speaker 6: and then a credit, to them they made some minor
- 2:12:16Speaker 6: adjustments and we were kind of playing on those four
- 2:12:21Speaker 6: that beginning of the. Third quarter they made it, a
- 2:12:23Speaker 6: game cut IT to i, think five and then it
- 2:12:25Speaker 6: was a closed game all the way until the last couple.
- 2:12:27Speaker 6: Of minutes but, you know hopefully we can sustain, our
- 2:12:32Speaker 6: intensity our focus and commitment to the, game plan especially
- 2:12:35Speaker 6: on the defensive end for forty minutes and then offensively
- 2:12:39Speaker 6: being able to take what they, give us being, shot
- 2:12:41Speaker 6: ready and then knocking those shots down. At home so
- 2:12:44Speaker 6: looking forward to a, great crowd a sea of red instead.
- 2:12:48Speaker 6: Of blue that Is something i'm really looking.
- 2:12:49Speaker 2: Forward to when you're at to.
- 2:12:51Speaker 4: This point you got three regular season games left before
- 2:12:54Speaker 4: we Head into big twelve, tournament PLAY and i know
- 2:12:57Speaker 4: there's you're always, striving for, you know constant an improvement as.
- 2:13:01Speaker 4: A team as, a coach you want, your players of
- 2:13:04Speaker 4: course to be hoping to improve, themselves individually but we
- 2:13:08Speaker 4: are who we are to some extent at this point in.
- 2:13:11Speaker 4: A season so what are the, little tweaks the little
- 2:13:14Speaker 4: adjustments that you can make from a, practice standpoint or
- 2:13:17Speaker 4: from an individual, workout standpoint or for you in how
- 2:13:20Speaker 4: you're studying film and how you're communicating with your ladies
- 2:13:24Speaker 4: to get the maximum and to improve as much as
- 2:13:26Speaker 4: you can with that small sample.
- 2:13:28Speaker 6: Size, left yeah very well said it was SOMETHING that
- 2:13:32Speaker 6: i use the exact words in our team meeting and film.
- 2:13:36Speaker 6: Session today we are who we are at, This point
- 2:13:39Speaker 6: so there is no reinventing, The wheel there is no
- 2:13:44Speaker 6: waving your magical wand and putting in. New plays it's
- 2:13:47Speaker 6: a matter of doing, the basic simple things that we've
- 2:13:50Speaker 6: been doing all year to the best of. Our ability so,
- 2:13:52Speaker 6: for us our focus continues to be winning our point,
- 2:13:56Speaker 6: of attacks whether that's off ball screens or, on balls
- 2:14:00Speaker 6: and then max effort of, the time whether that's in,
- 2:14:05Speaker 6: transition offensively, transition defensively defending, the ball rebounding. The ball at,
- 2:14:12Speaker 6: this point we are who, we are and so let's
- 2:14:14Speaker 6: go out there. And play let's, Stay connected let's move,
- 2:14:18Speaker 6: the ball play play basketball the Way the utah women's
- 2:14:21Speaker 6: basketball program, plays it passing up good shots for great
- 2:14:24Speaker 6: shots and then just pour into. Each other so that's
- 2:14:27Speaker 6: exactly what we, said today that's what we did in
- 2:14:30Speaker 6: practice and looking forward to one more practice before Our.
- 2:14:33Speaker 6: Game saturday so that's exactly you hit it, spot on
- 2:14:36Speaker 6: and that's kind of exactly where.
- 2:14:37Speaker 4: We're at you're you're eight and seven right now in,
- 2:14:40Speaker 4: conference play and there's a little bit of a log
- 2:14:42Speaker 4: jam kind of there in the middle of. The league but,
- 2:14:45Speaker 4: to me it feels like there's not, this grand humongous
- 2:14:48Speaker 4: disparity between where you're at right now IN, Where Tcu, Texas, tech.
- 2:14:54Speaker 4: BAYLOR are i know there are good teams and they
- 2:14:56Speaker 4: deserve credit for being, good teams but you don't watch them, and,
- 2:14:59Speaker 4: say well that's a team with, you know seven pros.
- 2:15:01Speaker 4: On it like we've got some of that going on
- 2:15:03Speaker 4: in the men's game. Right now where you look, at
- 2:15:06Speaker 4: it you're, JUST like, i mean you got to go
- 2:15:08Speaker 4: out and you got to play. These games but not
- 2:15:11Speaker 4: all things are. Equal here so there is there encouragement
- 2:15:14Speaker 4: to be taken from the idea that even the top
- 2:15:16Speaker 4: of the league, right now and it is a, good
- 2:15:17Speaker 4: league is not out.
- 2:15:19Speaker 6: Of, Reach yes and that's something that we keep preaching
- 2:15:23Speaker 6: each and every day is we have beaten two of
- 2:15:27Speaker 6: the top four teams in. Our conference we haven't had
- 2:15:31Speaker 6: a bad loss per se yet all. Season long we've
- 2:15:37Speaker 6: lost to, teams that, you know from a, ranking perspective
- 2:15:40Speaker 6: they're ahead. Of us we get that opportunity, to play,
- 2:15:44Speaker 6: you know the team Down. South saturday we're focused on
- 2:15:47Speaker 6: just going one, and oh but as a COACH and i,
- 2:15:50Speaker 6: look ahead, You know colorado's a few spots ahead. Of
- 2:15:53Speaker 6: us we have a chance to. Play them And, then
- 2:15:55Speaker 6: arizona a team that we've already Played in tucson on,
- 2:15:58Speaker 6: senior night we get to a finish our regular season,
- 2:16:01Speaker 6: With them so we want to go one to zero
- 2:16:03Speaker 6: and we want to do that three times to close out,
- 2:16:06Speaker 6: our season and hopefully that will give us some momentum
- 2:16:08Speaker 6: Into The Big, twelve tournament because it really is. A
- 2:16:11Speaker 6: logjam there are some really, good teams but it is,
- 2:16:14Speaker 6: anybody's TOURNAMENT and i truly, believe THAT and i believe
- 2:16:18Speaker 6: we're capable of, beating anybody and we're also capable to lose.
- 2:16:22Speaker 6: To anybody so, whoever's feeling, you know the, most confident the,
- 2:16:26Speaker 6: most synergy the, most togetherness, the healthiest those are teams
- 2:16:31Speaker 6: that can really get on a run There In, kansas
- 2:16:33Speaker 6: city and, you know we're looking to be one of
- 2:16:35Speaker 6: those teams that are in contention.
- 2:16:37Speaker 5: For Go jelanie white is she's shooting forty.
- 2:16:41Speaker 4: From three she's your, leading scorer and it's easy to
- 2:16:45Speaker 4: take a look at a stat sheet and, be, like
- 2:16:46Speaker 4: yeah this is the most impactful and important player on,
- 2:16:49Speaker 4: the team but it doesn't tell the whole story of
- 2:16:51Speaker 4: what she has done for you all. This year if
- 2:16:54Speaker 4: you can just put some words to the significance of
- 2:16:58Speaker 4: her leadership and our contribution on.
- 2:17:00Speaker 5: The, floor yeah.
- 2:17:02Speaker 6: It's funny IT'S like i just got done watching film
- 2:17:05Speaker 6: with her fifteen. Minutes ago, and yes she does bring
- 2:17:09Speaker 6: such a great dimension to us on the offensive end
- 2:17:11Speaker 6: with her, scoring ability being able to score on all.
- 2:17:14Speaker 6: Three levels but some of the clips we watched is
- 2:17:17Speaker 6: when she allows the ball to find energy and makes
- 2:17:19Speaker 6: the extra pass and makes the. Right read it's, just
- 2:17:22Speaker 6: CONTAGIOUS and i think that's when we are at our
- 2:17:25Speaker 6: best as. A team we're moving, to BASKETBALL and i,
- 2:17:28Speaker 6: told her and this is something that, you know because of,
- 2:17:31Speaker 6: her energy because of, her passion, it's contagious and we
- 2:17:35Speaker 6: want her to have that smile on. Our face we
- 2:17:38Speaker 6: want her to be, you know that competitive edge because
- 2:17:41Speaker 6: we feed all of the feed off, of it all
- 2:17:42Speaker 6: of us, Coaches players and that's something that doesn't show
- 2:17:46Speaker 6: up in a. Stat sheet but when she is, locked
- 2:17:49Speaker 6: in engaged and pouring into, her, teammates man it's fun to.
- 2:17:53Speaker 6: Be around and that's what we're, gonna need especially down.
- 2:17:57Speaker 6: The STRETCH so i, Told, HER hey i have four
- 2:17:59Speaker 6: more games that are guaranteed to coach you three, regular
- 2:18:02Speaker 6: season and we're only guaranteed one game In The big.
- 2:18:05Speaker 6: Twelve tournament we want it to, be MORE but i
- 2:18:07Speaker 6: only we only. Have four let's, go out let's enjoy
- 2:18:11Speaker 6: competing together and let's leave it all. Out there, BUT
- 2:18:14Speaker 6: again i want her to have. THAT passion i want
- 2:18:16Speaker 6: her to have that swagger because that's the stuff that
- 2:18:19Speaker 6: we feed off Of o.
- 2:18:21Speaker 4: Ja at this juncture of a year where, you know
- 2:18:23Speaker 4: the the light is at the end of the tunnel
- 2:18:25Speaker 4: from a, tournament perspective and that's when you build towards.
- 2:18:28Speaker 4: All year but like, you said you got to go
- 2:18:30Speaker 4: one to oh three times before you. Get there how
- 2:18:33Speaker 4: do you approach that focus acknowledging that the tournament, is
- 2:18:37Speaker 4: there but not getting ahead. OF yourself i know you can.
- 2:18:41Speaker 4: Do it is it a natural thing for your players
- 2:18:44Speaker 4: to stay on the task?
- 2:18:45Speaker 6: At, HAND yeah i will say this week it'll be
- 2:18:48Speaker 6: easy to focus on the task at hand because it
- 2:18:51Speaker 6: is the team. Down south we're owing one against them, this,
- 2:18:53Speaker 6: year RIGHT so i think that has all of. Our
- 2:18:56Speaker 6: attention so that's what's going. To be, you know our
- 2:18:59Speaker 6: play players are talking, About it they're they're locking into the.
- 2:19:02Speaker 6: Scouting reports, you know they're fired up for this game
- 2:19:05Speaker 6: we get to play. Them again so that's going to be.
- 2:19:08Speaker 6: Not easy but we're going to be able to focus
- 2:19:11Speaker 6: on the task at hand. This week i'm not even
- 2:19:13Speaker 6: worried about. That Now, after saturday that's when it becomes a.
- 2:19:17Speaker 6: Little tricky. You know we got to Go to colorado
- 2:19:20Speaker 6: and we come Home For. Senior night that's when a
- 2:19:22Speaker 6: lot of the distractions could start. Creeping, In uh and
- 2:19:25Speaker 6: we've got to do our best to really Focus on
- 2:19:28Speaker 6: okay one and oh wan and oh and easier said,
- 2:19:31Speaker 6: than done but, You know i'm confident our kids will
- 2:19:34Speaker 6: be at that point ready to just lock in and.
- 2:19:37Speaker 4: Finish strong, WE had i guess all the way back
- 2:19:40Speaker 4: to like right before the, season started We Had reese
- 2:19:43Speaker 4: frost come on and, join us and she was talking
- 2:19:45Speaker 4: about kind of her uh her not, just willingness her
- 2:19:49Speaker 4: love to do the things. Like rebounding she's your leading
- 2:19:52Speaker 4: rebounder and how, you know it's something that, FOR her,
- 2:19:57Speaker 4: i guess is a little. Bit ingrained it may be
- 2:19:59Speaker 4: born with that that is as important of a part of,
- 2:20:03Speaker 4: her game or as important part of the game for
- 2:20:06Speaker 4: her as scoring points is or. Anything ELSE and i just,
- 2:20:10Speaker 4: you know the contribution, she's made particularly on, the boards
- 2:20:14Speaker 4: has it been contagious in the way that you wanted it.
- 2:20:17Speaker 8: To, be yes.
- 2:20:18Speaker 6: She is, you know she is our. Elite rebounder, you
- 2:20:22Speaker 6: know hands down our. Best rebounder she shows it every day,
- 2:20:25Speaker 6: in practice she shows it every day. IN games i
- 2:20:28Speaker 6: think she's averaging a double double in, conference play so
- 2:20:33Speaker 6: like she's been doing a, phenomenal job and every opponent
- 2:20:36Speaker 6: In the big twelve identifies her and marks her as
- 2:20:39Speaker 6: somebody that you got to, try to, you know keep
- 2:20:41Speaker 6: off the old boards or limit, her rebounding and she's
- 2:20:44Speaker 6: still able to put up. Those NUMBERS so i Think
- 2:20:47Speaker 6: having reese sometimes are, you know especially that Game, against
- 2:20:52Speaker 6: cincinnati we started out really slow on the rebounding side.
- 2:20:56Speaker 6: Of things they were The best big twelve rebounding team
- 2:20:58Speaker 6: coming into, the game and then and we gave them
- 2:21:01Speaker 6: seven zero boards to start the. First, quarter well our
- 2:21:03Speaker 6: guards tend to watch her rebound because she does such
- 2:21:07Speaker 6: a phenomenal job securing. Those boards there are times when,
- 2:21:10Speaker 6: you know those, long rebounds we need our guards. To
- 2:21:13Speaker 6: rebound so, you know they ended up finishing with. Only
- 2:21:15Speaker 6: ten so once we, addressed it we're able to. Fix
- 2:21:18Speaker 6: it but we got to make sure that, you know
- 2:21:20Speaker 6: we're not spectators. Out there there are four players out
- 2:21:22Speaker 6: there on the floor. With her they got to do
- 2:21:24Speaker 6: their job. As well and you know she can't get all,
- 2:21:26Speaker 6: the rebounds even though she does get a high percentage.
- 2:21:29Speaker 6: Of them it's just real valuable asset to have in.
- 2:21:31Speaker 6: Our program and then on top, of that you know
- 2:21:34Speaker 6: her finding her way to score within. Our offense she's
- 2:21:38Speaker 6: made really good strides this in her third year, with
- 2:21:41Speaker 6: us and we're gonna look to kind of feed her
- 2:21:43Speaker 6: more as we close out. The season so really excited
- 2:21:46Speaker 6: about her and just where she's been and where she's
- 2:21:50Speaker 6: come to this point in.
- 2:21:52Speaker 4: HER career i know the task at hand is always
- 2:21:54Speaker 4: the most, important thing especially, for coaches but easier to
- 2:21:58Speaker 4: focus on the task at hand when the, bracketology says
- 2:22:02Speaker 4: you know it's still within striking distance, Right now ESPN's
- 2:22:06Speaker 4: got you in the first four, out category which means
- 2:22:08Speaker 4: you could play your.
- 2:22:09Speaker 5: Way in is that a motivating factor?
- 2:22:11Speaker 2: Right?
- 2:22:12Speaker 1: Now.
- 2:22:12Speaker 6: YEAH absolutely i think if at any point in, any
- 2:22:17Speaker 6: season especially down the stretch In, late february when you're playing,
- 2:22:21Speaker 6: for something it just, matters more and that's what we
- 2:22:23Speaker 6: all signed. Up for there are a lot of teams
- 2:22:27Speaker 6: that they're just waiting For the, conference tournament right that's
- 2:22:29Speaker 6: their last. Ditch effort we are in a position where
- 2:22:33Speaker 6: we will get, that opportunity but we also have right
- 2:22:36Speaker 6: now the. Regular season how we close out makes the
- 2:22:40Speaker 6: world of difference in terms of moving in the tournament or.
- 2:22:42Speaker 6: Getting out, so again it's better to be in the
- 2:22:47Speaker 6: position we're in as opposed, to being, you know with
- 2:22:50Speaker 6: a ten and eighteen record or something, like that where
- 2:22:52Speaker 6: we're completely out and we just Need A hail mary
- 2:22:55Speaker 6: In the big. Twelve TOURNAMENT so i would in trade,
- 2:22:58Speaker 6: our position, you know at, This point i'll take what.
- 2:23:02Speaker 6: We have with what we have and a lot of
- 2:23:04Speaker 6: newcomers being, relied upon let's go, to.
- 2:23:06Speaker 5: Work coach good luck this weekend.
- 2:23:10Speaker 4: And beyond obviously we probably won't get a chance to
- 2:23:12Speaker 4: catch up with you Before the big twelve, tournament starts
- 2:23:15Speaker 4: but we'll chat, Again then, thank.
- 2:23:16Speaker 6: You, sir, yes hey, REAL quick i just want to
- 2:23:19Speaker 6: say congratulations to our Recruiting coordinator jordan McIntyre and Her husband.
- 2:23:23Speaker 6: James McIntyre she gave birth to a beautiful baby boy.
- 2:23:26Speaker 6: This morning jonesy was welcomed into. The world so we
- 2:23:30Speaker 6: are gonna, miss her but she is texting us all,
- 2:23:34Speaker 6: the Time, and jordan we. LOVE you i don't know if,
- 2:23:37Speaker 6: you're listening but congratulations to You, and james and can't
- 2:23:40Speaker 6: wait To meet jonesy. In person but another addition To
- 2:23:43Speaker 6: the utah family and we're.
- 2:23:44Speaker 4: Loving it congratulations and welcome to the world and To the. Utah,
- 2:23:48Speaker 4: family jonesy. That's awesome nothing better in the whole world
- 2:23:52Speaker 4: than being, A parent so we extend. The congratulations, Thanks, Again.
- 2:23:56Speaker 6: Coach Thanks, osee goutes the head Coach of.
- 2:24:00Speaker 4: Utah, Women's Basketball, gavin peterson great stuff. From him, All
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- 2:27:02Speaker 4: hi spence.
- 2:27:04Speaker 2: What do you like most about those? Callaway, irons well it's.
- 2:27:07Speaker 4: The the way that the ball just jumps off the.
- 2:27:09Speaker 4: CLUB face, i mean the ball Speed that i'm getting
- 2:27:13Speaker 4: now compared TO what i used, to get is. Drastically
- 2:27:16Speaker 4: improved and what's what's, that number? Big one that sort,
- 2:27:20Speaker 4: of thought are we gonna get you out and play? It,
- 2:27:23Speaker 4: all look, here's here here's here's some bad news, for.
- 2:27:27Speaker 2: You buddy and you know YOU know i. Love you
- 2:27:29Speaker 2: do we? Score ye? Gold? Metal? Win?
- 2:27:38Speaker 5: Hell Yes FOR.
- 2:27:39Speaker 10: Team usa oh, my gosh there is nothing like golden gold.
- 2:27:44Speaker 10: And hockey there's nothing, like, It dude i'm telling you,
- 2:27:48Speaker 10: ONE thing I will i really Want our mammoth fans
- 2:27:51Speaker 10: to Experience The stanley.
- 2:27:53Speaker 2: Cup playoffs i's. Gonna happen you.
- 2:27:56Speaker 10: Don't even have to be a hockey fan who appreciate
- 2:27:59Speaker 10: how intense And overtime Game Seven stanley cup playoff.
- 2:28:05Speaker 2: HOCKEY is i honestly don't know that there's anything like it.
- 2:28:07Speaker 5: IN sport i mean in.
- 2:28:09Speaker 4: Pro sports it's really really hard to come up with. Anything,
- 2:28:12Speaker 4: better yeah, and wow this is this is a great
- 2:28:16Speaker 4: MOMENT for tbusa. Women's, hockey uh the correct answer to
- 2:28:21Speaker 4: the trivia question how many times has this exact matchup
- 2:28:23Speaker 4: happened for the? Gold medal this is, the seventh the
- 2:28:27Speaker 4: seventh time these two teams have. Squared off four It
- 2:28:29Speaker 4: all canada is up now four. Two three it was
- 2:28:32Speaker 4: four to two until about sixty.
- 2:28:34Speaker 10: Seconds. Ago, INCREDIBLE yeah, I mean, i mean And for.
- 2:28:37Speaker 10: Olympic gold who doesn't get any better?
- 2:28:39Speaker 2: Than that but back to.
- 2:28:42Speaker 5: There, You.
- 2:28:42Speaker 2: Go bud he's such a. Good dog but those you just.
- 2:28:45Speaker 2: Can't know those are.
- 2:28:46Speaker 7: My?
- 2:28:46Speaker 2: Headphones now is he?
- 2:28:48Speaker 4: Eating?
- 2:28:48Speaker 10: Him no what he does is he comes over, and,
- 2:28:50Speaker 10: says hi he walks through the walks, through them and
- 2:28:52Speaker 10: they get caught on, his paw AND then i AND
- 2:28:55Speaker 10: then i try to take it from. His pond he
- 2:28:57Speaker 10: punches me in. The, face, Rocky buddy, come well this.
- 2:29:01Speaker 10: Is okay you're gonna have. To say this is gonna take,
- 2:29:03Speaker 10: some work, all.
- 2:29:04Speaker 2: Right just unplug.
- 2:29:05Speaker 10: Your headphones, wait, wait yeah this is gonna take. Some
- 2:29:08Speaker 10: work now he's sitting down on.
- 2:29:10Speaker 2: On that he just wants to hang Out. WITH spence
- 2:29:13Speaker 2: i love. This dog and he Probably smells duke.
- 2:29:15Speaker 10: On me we Don't have duke in the, Studio now
- 2:29:17Speaker 10: james are our program director is actually now also untangling.
- 2:29:22Speaker 2: The headphones this is Part of.
- 2:29:23Speaker 4: James's job that he didn't know was going to be
- 2:29:25Speaker 4: in the. Job description, thank. You sir, All, right.
- 2:29:29Speaker 10: Oh we were talking about your, golf GAME and I
- 2:29:31Speaker 10: was i was telling you the. Bad news even though you're,
- 2:29:33Speaker 10: my guy, you're aging you, Have, children yeah and uh
- 2:29:38Speaker 10: your fighting days are probably.
- 2:29:40Speaker 2: Behind you yeah. For sure so you need you need
- 2:29:42Speaker 2: don't you need something to quench the? Competitive?
- 2:29:45Speaker 4: Thirst uh golf is not going to quench any competitive thirst.
- 2:29:49Speaker 4: FOR me I bet i'm gonna lose at it all. The,
- 2:29:51Speaker 4: time no you could be good. Competitively angry you could
- 2:29:53Speaker 4: be good if you gave.
- 2:29:54Speaker 2: IT time i will tell you what you, just mentioned
- 2:29:57Speaker 2: the FACT that i do.
- 2:29:58Speaker 4: Have, children YEAH IF i i inform my lovely Wife
- 2:30:02Speaker 4: that i'm going to be gone for the next three
- 2:30:05Speaker 4: and a half to.
- 2:30:06Speaker 10: Six, hours yeah and that's, the timeframe by, the way
- 2:30:08Speaker 10: and it's usually closer to six to.
- 2:30:09Speaker 5: Go play some golf with My.
- 2:30:11Speaker 2: Buddy.
- 2:30:11Speaker 10: Spence yeah that's not going to go overwell in. The
- 2:30:15Speaker 10: home once every, couple weeks once, A, month no. No,
- 2:30:18Speaker 10: chance no don't you need some. Sean time don't you
- 2:30:22Speaker 10: need some time to take Care. OF sean i do get.
- 2:30:24Speaker 10: That time what do you do when You have? SEAN
- 2:30:26Speaker 10: time i take my dog for, A walk i drive
- 2:30:29Speaker 10: home from.
- 2:30:29Speaker 5: The Studio that's.
- 2:30:30Speaker 2: Shawn time so you get fifteen minutes a Day of sean.
- 2:30:33Speaker 10: Like, eight yeah it's like. Eight, Minutes okay well that
- 2:30:36Speaker 10: explains so, Much, then yeah. It's perfect don't you Need more?
- 2:30:38Speaker 2: SHAN time.
- 2:30:39Speaker 4: I don't i Don't like sewan. THAT much i DON'T
- 2:30:41Speaker 4: need i don't need a Lot. Of sean Kendell gets. Kendle, time, yeah.
- 2:30:45Speaker 4: Right doesn't he's like leave town for. A WHILE if,
- 2:30:47Speaker 4: I remember i.
- 2:30:48Speaker 5: Leave town way more often than she ever will be
- 2:30:51Speaker 5: because that's to.
- 2:30:51Speaker 2: Pay, bills yeah that's not how.
- 2:30:53Speaker 5: It's.
- 2:30:54Speaker 10: Interpreted spence you've, been married you know how. This works,
- 2:30:57Speaker 10: excellent Point and i'm out, for Two so i'll just.
- 2:30:59Speaker 10: Shut up i'm the wrong guy to ask about any of,
- 2:31:02Speaker 10: this stuff so let me.
- 2:31:04Speaker 2: Start over, You're right. I'm wrong.
- 2:31:06Speaker 4: Well done gold medal. In hockey we were trying to figure.
- 2:31:09Speaker 4: This out we're trying to figure this out For The. Winter,
- 2:31:11Speaker 4: olympics yeah is there a gold medal that's more prestigious than,
- 2:31:16Speaker 4: the others like In The, summer olympics the one hundred,
- 2:31:19Speaker 4: meter final especially on the, men's side fastest person in,
- 2:31:22Speaker 4: the world that's the most prestigious gold medal.
- 2:31:25Speaker 2: There, is yeah that's.
- 2:31:25Speaker 4: Probably true and maybe you know some of the swimming
- 2:31:29Speaker 4: and whatever team in basketball we were, talking about and
- 2:31:32Speaker 4: hockey has got to be way. Up there but is
- 2:31:35Speaker 4: There for spence check it's and for The average american sports,
- 2:31:39Speaker 4: fan especially is there a a gold medal that's more
- 2:31:42Speaker 4: prestigious than the other? Gold Medals because i'll, be honest
- 2:31:45Speaker 4: like ski mountaineering is debuting In the, olympics today whoever
- 2:31:49Speaker 4: wins that gold medal is not going to get on
- 2:31:51Speaker 4: the front of the.
- 2:31:52Speaker 10: Weedies, box well and that's exactly where my, head, Went
- 2:31:55Speaker 10: right And so i'm old enough to Remember who Mary lou, retten.
- 2:31:58Speaker 10: Is huh and so individual gymnastics all around brought Us,
- 2:32:02Speaker 10: someone biles you know those play, up there they turned, into,
- 2:32:05Speaker 10: Superstars RIGHT so i, always tried like maybe individual, figure
- 2:32:09Speaker 10: skating like what will actually because so many of these
- 2:32:13Speaker 10: athletes win a gold medal and then they're LIKE assistant
- 2:32:17Speaker 10: gm at shields the rest of. Their life it's A
- 2:32:19Speaker 10: wild so like which gold medal can actually lead you
- 2:32:21Speaker 10: to a career where you don't have to go try
- 2:32:23Speaker 10: to sell insurance for.
- 2:32:24Speaker 2: Your, FRIEND well i think you.
- 2:32:25Speaker 4: HIT it i think it's it's gymnastics In The, summer,
- 2:32:28Speaker 4: OLYMPICS right i think It's that like we were, talking
- 2:32:31Speaker 4: About Like michael phelps won a, thousand medals if he
- 2:32:34Speaker 4: had won one medley, RELAY medal.
- 2:32:37Speaker 5: I don't think that puts him in the stratus for he.
- 2:32:39Speaker 4: Got into being the fastest man or fastest woman on
- 2:32:42Speaker 4: the planet probably gets you the weedies box at least
- 2:32:44Speaker 4: a four year cycle of. Pseudo fame but In The
- 2:32:46Speaker 4: winter olympics it's harder. To identify like if you win
- 2:32:50Speaker 4: the mono, bob okay. That's awesome i'm not trying to
- 2:32:56Speaker 4: diminish a. Gold medal gold medals are incredibly, for sure
- 2:33:01Speaker 4: but not all. Created EQUAL so i want to know
- 2:33:04Speaker 4: what the best. One is we, ask people and it
- 2:33:06Speaker 4: was broken up hockey for the team, sport obviously the
- 2:33:10Speaker 4: figure skating In The, United, States, Japan, china korea and
- 2:33:15Speaker 4: then apparently downhill skiing is really what drives It.
- 2:33:18Speaker 2: In, EUROPE yeah i.
- 2:33:20Speaker 10: Think It was forbes a few years ago that actually,
- 2:33:22Speaker 10: playd value like if you win a gold medal in,
- 2:33:24Speaker 10: this sport it's worth two hundred and fifty k. Or
- 2:33:26Speaker 10: something i'll have to look at, that list because it
- 2:33:28Speaker 10: definitely is whatever medal you can win that doesn't lead
- 2:33:32Speaker 10: you to become a barista like, next month because there
- 2:33:35Speaker 10: are so many of those. Individual events they work their.
- 2:33:37Speaker 10: Entire Life their olympic career, is over and They teach
- 2:33:41Speaker 10: jim at their old. High school do you Remember When
- 2:33:45Speaker 10: megan keller scored the? Game winner Thank. You james do
- 2:33:48Speaker 10: you Remember When home depot part like they. Had commercials
- 2:33:52Speaker 10: one of the big advertisements For home depot, was like
- 2:33:55Speaker 10: we are the Employer of Olympic ATHLETESES and i remember.
- 2:33:59Speaker 2: Watching that and just be like.
- 2:34:01Speaker 4: That sucks is so wrong that you should instead of
- 2:34:06Speaker 4: making them work in the, lumber department you should, be
- 2:34:09Speaker 4: Like We're, Home depot we're gonna pay you a salary
- 2:34:12Speaker 4: and you can just train like all the like everyone
- 2:34:15Speaker 4: In The.
- 2:34:15Speaker 10: Eastern bloc you Walk In, home depot you get a
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- 2:34:26Speaker 10: we're HOME of Ncaa champions, it's, like oh you just
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- 2:34:41Speaker 10: that as. Their, flex hey we will give these world
- 2:34:45Speaker 10: class athletes minimum, wage jobs.
- 2:34:47Speaker 2: Will you, it's LIKE what noe do better?
- 2:34:51Speaker 4: Than that like pay them to be your endorsers by,
- 2:34:53Speaker 4: all means don't make them work. The Counter when i'm
- 2:34:56Speaker 4: Returning the phillips, head screwdriver Aren't You?
- 2:34:59Speaker 10: Mike johnson didn't you win the one hundred meters you
- 2:35:04Speaker 10: like a? Gold, medalist yeah the sink parts are an.
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- 2:35:11Speaker 4: hey i know that you're looking at, this hardwood but
- 2:35:14Speaker 4: the laminate is really where.
- 2:35:15Speaker 2: It's at can you win like twenty? Gold medals why
- 2:35:18Speaker 2: are you harping me?
- 2:35:18Speaker 5: At home much more cost effective?
- 2:35:20Speaker 2: In waterproof oh that. Is wild, great moment though thrilled for.
- 2:35:24Speaker 10: The women it's funny THE way i was thinking about
- 2:35:27Speaker 10: this Yesterday because canada barely won and then we. Barely,
- 2:35:31Speaker 10: won correct everybody's talking, about, like oh it's inevitable that
- 2:35:35Speaker 10: it's going to BE the Us and canada for the.
- 2:35:37Speaker 10: Gold medal on the, Men's side sweden has LIKE twelve
- 2:35:39Speaker 10: nhl players and are also trying. To win it's not
- 2:35:43Speaker 10: like a seamless thing into, the finals like these guys have.
- 2:35:45Speaker 5: Work today every we looked it.
- 2:35:47Speaker 4: Up yesterday every everybody On the swedish TEAM an, nhl
- 2:35:51Speaker 4: player all. Of them everybody ON the us TEAM and.
- 2:35:53Speaker 4: Nhl player everyonere On the canada TEAM an. Nhl, player,
- 2:35:57Speaker 4: so yeah that's a. Tough contest that's a. Tough game
- 2:36:00Speaker 4: slovakia has been surprising this. Whole, tournament yeah they just
- 2:36:03Speaker 4: won like, Five two so that's that's your. Game, Tomorrow
- 2:36:06Speaker 4: yeah it's it's, almost like, you know the nineteen eighty.
- 2:36:10Speaker 4: MIRACLE team i think most people Believe the russia game
- 2:36:13Speaker 4: was the gold. Medal game they had to go win
- 2:36:15Speaker 4: another really really.
- 2:36:16Speaker 2: Tough game.
- 2:36:18Speaker 10: YOU know i think our memories kind of get clouded a.
- 2:36:20Speaker 10: LITTLE bit i will admit to have very much Enjoyed this.
- 2:36:24Speaker 2: Olympic GAME so.
- 2:36:25Speaker 10: I get i love getting home. My GUY like, I Said,
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- 2:36:31Speaker 2: Tarico boom it's all, They need it's all. You need.
- 2:36:33Speaker 4: Good stuff Congrats TO team usa women on winning hockey
- 2:36:38Speaker 4: gold medal. In overtime sorry about, Your Luck canada. America's
- 2:36:43Speaker 4: hat sorry about. YOUR luck i should say don't we?
- 2:36:47Speaker 2: Own them or? Something now or Oh.
- 2:36:49Speaker 4: That's greenland oh. Good point stay Tuned For the Drive,
- 2:36:53Speaker 4: with spence Check. Its sex for Listening To the sean,
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