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#2572 - Colum Tyrrell · The Joe Rogan Experience

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 1: What's the story?
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you, brother. What's happening?
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  Speaker 1: I'm great, man.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this, man.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: My pleasure. I'm excited to talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was so nervous about my special these
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  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks that I don't even think I
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  Speaker 1: was really even thinking about this at all. So it
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  Speaker 1: probably kind of worked as a nice distraction. If I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have anything else going on, This would have just
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  Speaker 1: been over my head all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It fucks people up the first time they do it.
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  Speaker 2: After you do it a couple times, you're like, we're
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  Speaker 2: just hanging out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But in the beginning, it's a mindfuck.
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  Speaker 1: This is a global scale for me.
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  Speaker 2: Me too. I try not to think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because all I'm thinking now is, like, we'll say
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  Speaker 1: something about fucking Sidney Sweeney's tits. And then I got
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  Speaker 1: to get a phone call off my mother.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see how those women that they interviewed these
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  Speaker 2: women and they asked them what was a worse impact
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  Speaker 2: on women in society? Whether it was Lindy Clancy or
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  Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney, what was worse for women? And they almost, like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where they went. Obviously, it's
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  Speaker 2: a bias sampling group. But all these women were saying
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  Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. They just want to peck each other to death.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because she really made it out of the swamp.
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  Speaker 1: She made it out of the swamp.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: She's like as famous as you possibly be, just mostly because.
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  Speaker 3: Of her tits, really.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Actually, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I always thought she was a good actor in a
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  Speaker 1: couple of the things. Euphoria and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh. She's just too hot. They don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's also kind of not like crazy strikingly beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: So there's something that makes her even more popular.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she's like a catwalk model. She's not
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  Speaker 1: like a Victoria's Secret model. Her face is a little.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at her face.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, this is horrible, but I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting rude.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not in the... We're not getting rude.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to defend her. I think she's hot as
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  Speaker 2: the sun.
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  Speaker 1: So do I. I think she's as attractive as the sun.
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  Speaker 1: She's attractive.
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  Speaker 2: The short thing matters with men, but does it really
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  Speaker 2: matter with women? Whether or not you think they're... Oh,
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  Speaker 2: for models.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say for models.
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  Speaker 2: Right, but as to whether or not she's attractive, she's
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  Speaker 2: fucking beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: I would disagree with the previous statements.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, dog. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying I'm a beautiful man by any means, so don't
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  Speaker 1: get this twisted.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm definitely not either.
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  Speaker 1: So once we've said that, now let's rip her to shreds.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: She's pretty fucking hot, dude.
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  Speaker 1: She really is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you could say that's
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  Speaker 2: not a 10. That girl right there is hot as
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  Speaker 2: the fucking sun.
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  Speaker 1: You are right.
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  Speaker 2: She's hot.
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  Speaker 1: I changed my mind.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies don't like it. They just don't like when a
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  Speaker 2: woman has that kind of power. Because they know that
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  Speaker 2: too much of being a woman, at least in America,
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  Speaker 2: at least in 2026, I'm sorry. But too much of
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  Speaker 2: it resides on whether or not you are attractive to
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  Speaker 2: the opposite sex. Yeah. When women walk into a room,
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  Speaker 2: they like to be the most attractive person in the room.
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  Speaker 2: And you fucking know if you walk in a room
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  Speaker 2: and that bitch walks in.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's going to look at her.
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  Speaker 4: She's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is that. Typical bombshell, blonde, big tits. And
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  Speaker 1: all the guys see her, we all.
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  Speaker 2: Go, big real ones. Yeah. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Also, it must be weird for her to be in
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  Speaker 1: a world where just people are, I guess, so obsessed
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  Speaker 1: with her looks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, she's putting it out there, right? She's
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  Speaker 2: doing that sports ads commercial with footballs over her tits.
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  Speaker 1: She has her own gambling app now and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think she's probably working with one. Boy, if
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  Speaker 2: there's anything that's like the most controversial thing, one of
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  Speaker 2: the most controversial things today is gambling ads and whether
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  Speaker 2: or not gambling should be legal. Some people are like
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  Speaker 2: fully against gambling being legal. And I'm like, boy, I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand that.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up with gambling. Gambling's legal in Ireland. It
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  Speaker 1: always was. But then we had like a bookies, which
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  Speaker 1: was like attached to the pub nearly everywhere you go.
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  Speaker 1: So you'd have to physically go in there and run
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  Speaker 1: out of slip and you could bet on the horses
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And it seemed to be relatively
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  Speaker 1: managed well. But I think, first of all, the phones
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  Speaker 1: are a disaster. And then you add gambling to the phones.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of stories of people like throwing
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  Speaker 1: shit away because the phones are addictive no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: And then you'd be putting a bet on basketball and
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  Speaker 1: it'll go bling. You just won a free blackjack. Why
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  Speaker 1: don't you play blackjack? And then you'll be there for
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  Speaker 1: an hour and you've lost $ 500.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Or don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like shouldn't you be able to
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  Speaker 2: have a balanced life and also bet $ 500 on a
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  Speaker 2: game that you care about? Yes. If you're a regular
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  Speaker 2: person with a regular job and you're not insane and
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  Speaker 2: you go, oh, shit, the Knicks are playing tonight. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're going to fucking take it. Let's go. And
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  Speaker 2: you throw a $ 500 bet on it and it makes
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  Speaker 2: it exciting for you.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: You got something riding on it. Come on. Fuck yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Woo. People like that. I don't know why we're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to take that away because some people can't control it.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I've said this many times. I've talked about this.
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  Speaker 2: From the time I was 23 till I was like 25,
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  Speaker 2: I lived in a pool hall. Yeah. Like I lived
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  Speaker 2: playing pool and hanging out with gamblers. I know gambling addicts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know like legitimate gambling addicts. They gamble. They'll gamble
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  Speaker 2: on raindrops coming down a window.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now you can. Polymarket. Pull it out.
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  Speaker 2: And I understand why some people would have a problem
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  Speaker 2: with it, but don't do it if you have a
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  Speaker 2: problem with it. That's what I don't understand. We're micromanaging
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  Speaker 2: every single aspect of society and turning it into a
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  Speaker 2: nanny state. I feel like you should be able to drink.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think you should be able to
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  Speaker 2: do drugs. And I think they should be legal. And
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  Speaker 2: I think we should be able to sell real drugs.
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  Speaker 2: So you shouldn't have to worry about getting fentanyl overdoses.
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  Speaker 1: You think you could get coke at 7-Eleven?
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  Speaker 2: Not at 7-Eleven. Maybe at the liquor store.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now that's the same argument. I go, well,
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  Speaker 1: why can't I? Because I can control my coke. I
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  Speaker 1: should be allowed to buy it at 7-Eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Well, you can get booze at 7-Eleven, so
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  Speaker 2: fair point. I mean, what is the... Can you get, like,
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  Speaker 2: hard liquor at 7-Eleven?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, you can get coke outside of 7-Eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Every single 7-Eleven.
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  Speaker 2: You can also die. You can take a fucking ecstasy pill.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's kind of part of the fun of
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  Speaker 1: drugs is gone.
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  Speaker 2: Today, it's the part of the gamble.
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  Speaker 1: Where people go, is that safe? You go, ah.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: You let me know.
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  Speaker 2: She did it an hour ago, and she's right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the canary.
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  Speaker 2: She's dancing. Seems okay. Yeah, it's fucking weird. What were
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  Speaker 2: you going to say, Jamie?
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  Speaker 3: It depends on the state. State liquor laws are different everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Like in California, I think you could buy them in
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  Speaker 3: the grocery store.
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  Speaker 2: You buy, like, Jack Daniels?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Well, Jack Daniels in the grocery store makes sense,
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  Speaker 2: but does it make sense in 7-Eleven?
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  Speaker 3: But then there's different, like, some gas stations would have, like,
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  Speaker 3: liquor stores attached to them and some wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird because I live in New Jersey, so
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  Speaker 1: we can't buy certain booze at grocery stores. So you
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  Speaker 1: have to go. But, like, it doesn't really make sense
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  Speaker 1: because you can buy some things here, some things there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I lived in Massachusetts when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 2: and we would have to go to New Hampshire for
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  Speaker 2: booze on Sunday. Of course.
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  Speaker 1: You have to go.
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  Speaker 2: Massachusetts had booze laws. Yeah. What is it? Blue laws?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it's called? There's laws on Sunday where
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  Speaker 2: you weren't allowed to buy booze. That was the Lord's Day,
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  Speaker 2: you son of a bitch.
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  Speaker 1: Go to church, you piece of shit. Bunch of boys
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  Speaker 1: in a car were driving to New Hampshire. Crack them
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  Speaker 1: open on the way back.
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  Speaker 2: They would call them package stores. So we would call
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  Speaker 2: it the packie. We're going to the packie. And guys
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  Speaker 2: would take.
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  Speaker 1: A fucking hour and a half.
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean up there? Oh, Pakistani?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit of a slur for Browns.
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  Speaker 2: No, for us it was a package store. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how it became a package store, but you'd have
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  Speaker 2: to go to New Hampshire.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys wouldn't just like buy a lot on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're retarded.
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  Speaker 1: You did, but you drank it all.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know what the fuck we're doing.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some guy who was 21. He was driving.
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  Speaker 2: Beer in between the legs. And there was no gambling.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, you'd have to go to Vegas to gamble,
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  Speaker 2: or you'd have to find a bookie, an actual bookie.
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  Speaker 2: An illegal bookie that was connected to the mob. That
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  Speaker 2: was the only way.
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  Speaker 1: But then you really have to work for your gambling.
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  Speaker 1: And then I think you would probably think about your
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  Speaker 1: bets a little better.
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  Speaker 2: Would you? I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: I've not met a mob boss and made a bet yet.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like people that are off the rails are
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  Speaker 2: just going to be off the rails. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: what we really need is to teach people when they're
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  Speaker 2: very young how to control impulses and the value of
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  Speaker 2: discipline and that you can control your behavior and you
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  Speaker 2: can control your urges in terms of like gambling, alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: Like there are people that are absolutely genetically addicted to
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  Speaker 2: alcohol and genetically addicted to other things. But them aside,
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of people, it's a self-control issue. It's
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  Speaker 2: whether or not you choose to do a positive thing
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  Speaker 2: or choose to do a negative thing. And the thing
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  Speaker 2: about gambling is I don't think it's always a negative thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I think for some people it's fun and they
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  Speaker 2: like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It makes it a little extra exciting and they're not
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  Speaker 2: ruining their life. So should they not be able to
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  Speaker 2: do it for people who do ruin their life?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I always would place bets on
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  Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl, big games like that. Add a
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  Speaker 1: little something. I do the boxes at the bars.
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  Speaker 2: Fun, right? Add a little something. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now it kind of seems like it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of just. College kids are kind of just fucking,
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  Speaker 1: they're growing up where that's normalized to have like a
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  Speaker 1: certain amount of your money lost to gambling. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess we need to teach them not to be doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Do we? What remains today? The main surviving Texas blue
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  Speaker 2: wall restrictions concern alcohol sales and motor vehicle sales. Liquor
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  Speaker 2: stores close on Sundays and car dealers cannot sell vehicles
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  Speaker 2: on both Saturday and Sunday of the same weekend.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 3: That's why I brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday of the same weekend.
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  Speaker 3: So those are the only ones that last. I got
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  Speaker 3: into this because there was a long list of 42
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  Speaker 3: very specific items that weren't allowed to be sold and
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  Speaker 3: that was repealed in like.
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  Speaker 2: The 60s or 80s or something. This is for Texas?
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  Speaker 3: This was for Texas. I don't know about for every
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  Speaker 3: other state. It's also a very strange list of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So what are the categories removed? These are things you
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  Speaker 2: couldn't sell? Yeah. You couldn't sell electronics on Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: It was repealed in 1985.
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  Speaker 1: How weird is that?
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  Speaker 2: Electronics. That's the devil's work.
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  Speaker 3: Clothing, furniture, kitchen utensils.
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  Speaker 2: Footwear.
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  Speaker 1: Appliances.
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  Speaker 2: Can't buy shoes on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: So you couldn't go shopping, basically.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't buy. I mean, you go shopping, you couldn't
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  Speaker 3: buy anything.
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  Speaker 2: These are old.
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  Speaker 1: These are all Texas laws?
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  Speaker 2: Jesus laws, son. Jesus wants you to not sell guitars
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  Speaker 2: on a Sunday. Put that back up, that list. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Musical instruments. Recordings and toys. If your kid wants a
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  Speaker 2: fucking toy, you can't make your kid happy on a Sunday?
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  Speaker 2: They should be happy with Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: I've never really heard any of this.
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  Speaker 2: Certain tools and lawnmowers. What if your fucking lawnmower breaks
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday and that's your day to mow the lawn?
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  Speaker 3: This says the same thing about they can't sell them
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  Speaker 3: on consecutive Saturdays and Sundays. You have to pick a day,
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  Speaker 3: which is fucking, that's so strange.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: How this got developed has got to be a weird story.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure there has to be a reason. Probably not
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  Speaker 3: a good one.
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  Speaker 2: The weird thing is, like, if you couldn't buy liquor
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday, could you go to a restaurant and order
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  Speaker 2: a drink?
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  Speaker 3: Here you can order, I think, only beer and wine.
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  Speaker 3: You can't order liquor. Or it's, like, after or before
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  Speaker 3: 10 or before 11 or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: You mean right now, today?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So if you go to
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  Speaker 2: a restaurant on a Sunday and you try to order
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  Speaker 2: an old-fashioned, they won't let you? That seems wrong.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot buy liquor from package stores on Sundays in Texas,
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  Speaker 3: but you can buy beer and wine at grocery and
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  Speaker 3: convenience stores starting at 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: What about restaurants?
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  Speaker 3: A restaurant can serve alcoholic beverages starting at 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday if the alcohol is sold along with the
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  Speaker 3: service of food. So you've got to buy food, too.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: So you can't just be a bar selling liquor.
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  Speaker 1: Which is also, I guess I've been to it.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's not right. I've been to a bar where
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  Speaker 3: they're playing football and they're selling liquor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what about our bar?
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  Speaker 1: They probably have like a one chicken wing minimum kind
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  Speaker 1: of just a loophole.
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  Speaker 3: They do have a food truck on premises.
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  Speaker 2: What about our bar? What about Mitzi's?
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  Speaker 3: We're not open that early.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But it's Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: But it's Sunday. We're open on Sunday. Are we breaking
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  Speaker 2: the law?
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  Speaker 1: Breaking the law.
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  Speaker 2: Are we breaking the law? It says from 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: to noon. Oh, just then. That's when you're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be in church.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have breakfast... So if you want some mimosas,
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  Speaker 1: you have to order.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: To noon, bro.
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  Speaker 3: No food required afternoon. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: So afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people sitting around waiting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Staring at the clock is fucking stupid law. That's
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  Speaker 2: the dumbest fucking law ever.
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  Speaker 1: Growing up in Ireland, I used to know lads like
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  Speaker 1: that would go down to the liquor store and they'd
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  Speaker 1: be waiting. Like they were releasing fucking tickets. Yeah. who
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  Speaker 1: are like a concert there would be a line of
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  Speaker 1: people like 9am on a Sunday just sitting around waiting
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  Speaker 1: for the liquor stores.
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  Speaker 2: To wow they got up early.
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  Speaker 1: Well no they did not get up they stayed up
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  Speaker 1: all night yeah they went to the gym first and
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  Speaker 1: then fucking went for a cup no they stay up
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: all night and then they'd go straight to the liquor
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: store waiting.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Or you had the early houses. They have them in
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: New York sometimes too, the early houses.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: What's an early house?
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: An early house has a special license where it can
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: open at like 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock in the morning
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: because it's usually in a port. So the old fishermen
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: apparently would get in off their shift. So there used
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: to be all these laws, you know, can't serve booze
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: till 10. And they were like, well, we finish work
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: at 6 a.m. So why can't I drink? So they
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: would let individual spots. And they have a few of
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: them in New York still. So when we would bartend,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: we would drink in the bar until 6, 7. Then
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: we'd get a taxi over to the early house and
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: there'd be guys getting off work and we're all fucking
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: steaming from the night before. We're wasted all night.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: New York is fun.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: It's so much fun.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: There's so much stuff to do. There's always something happening somewhere.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually why I moved here, was because I
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: visited New York when I was younger. I was like 19,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: and I just fell in love with the opportunity of
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: how much stuff there was to do. I feel like
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: no matter who you are, you can find your little
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: tribe of people in New York.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get a great meal at 4 in
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: the morning.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: You can go to a restaurant and get a meal.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: At four in the morning.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: A little bit of that's died down, though. The restaurants
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: because of COVID. All the diners are 24 hours, and
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: then COVID, and it kind of stopped, and it kind
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: of fucked up a lot of shit.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Fucking COVID.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: It kind of fucked up. Can I take a look
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: at this?
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. How long have you been over here
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: for in America?
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I've been here since 2014.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Did you start comedy in Ireland?
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was doing comedy for like two years out there.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: What's it like out there? What's the scene?
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: It's small.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Not many people out there. So it's like a small,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: it's like not that easy to make a living.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Is there clubs or is it open mics?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: There's only really a couple of purposely built clubs. Most
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: rooms are just like a room above a bar that's
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: been converted and great. And the crowds are incredible in Ireland.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: They're small and they're almost like doing a black room.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Because if you crush, you feel like a king. And
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: if you bomb, you will regret everything that ever led
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: The Irish.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: You will bomb at the Irish and then just quickly
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: someone goes, not funny. And then you've got 15 more
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: minutes going, fuck. And he gets a big laugh. What
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: about this other thing I saw? But if you're going well,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: they love you.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: And is there a lot of good comics over there?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: There's some great comics, yeah. A lot of them don't
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: move out too much. They don't really get out of there.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: That's a problem.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: We've got a couple of great guys. Our biggest guy
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: ever was probably Tommy Ternan.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I've heard of him.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Tommy was massive and he used to go all over.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: And then I think he got rocked for saying, he
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: got like one of the first cancelled guys back in 2006.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: He made a joke about, um, about Hitler didn't have
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: enough ambition. And that six million wasn't enough. And then,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: but he said it like casually on stage as a joke.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: And then someone wrote a huge article about it. And
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: then they kind of fucked his whole touring over here.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: His agents, his managers, everyone dropped him. And then he
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: just goes, fuck it, I'll stay in Dublin. I'll stay
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: in Ireland because, uh. I've got a fan base here,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: my family. Tommy's the best.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: So does he still perform in Ireland? Yeah, yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: But I think he kind of only sticks to that region.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: But he's a weird dude. He's like an old witch
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: type of a guy, where he'll have a stick, he'll
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: walk around with a stick, and he'll hit you with
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: a poem that doesn't make sense, and then he... Jumps
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: back into a hedge. He is very interesting. He has
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a huge talk show in Ireland right now. Really? Massive
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: talk show, yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: On television?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: On television. They get a guest in that he doesn't
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: know who the guest is. It's a surprise. So then
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: he sits down and just starts talking to them. He
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: either knows them or just tries to figure out what
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: they're doing.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: What's it called?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: The Tommy Tiernan Show.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so book me, maybe.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I'd love to do it. That sounds fun.
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  Speaker 2: new customers only. So it's interesting. So he just said,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm going to stay in Ireland.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I think so, yeah.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And he was touring all over the world before that?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was huge. Huge in Canada, big in Australia.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: He was doing the tours in America, had a Comedy
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Central hour at the time. And then I think it
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: was like a post-show live interview type of thing.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Just one thing fucking around.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Someone actually asked the question, can you go too far
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: as a joke? And he said no. And then I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: think he used that as an example. And some journalist
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: just cherry-picked that. And said, anti-Semitic, whatever. Which is funny,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: because if he did it today, he'd be a fucking king.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Because the anti-Semitism has kind of been, kind of cool.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: It's in vogue. It's kind of cool.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It made a comeback.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: It really did, you know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: As soon as Kanye started selling out stadiums again, everybody
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: was like, wow. Yeah. That dude had a diamond-crusted swastika made.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: By the way, where do you think he got the diamonds? Money, money, Joe.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: He goes, you what?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Think he got them from the Italians?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: There's going to be an upcharge on the swastika.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: We can make a deal.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: But we have to work something out. Got to go
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: in through the back door. Yeah. A fucking diamond-encrusted swastika,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, the dude's selling out
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: stadiums again. Selling out enormous stadiums.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Well, the music slaps.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Slaps? Slaps. The dude's nothing but bangers.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: For fucking decades. That guy's been making players.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: When I say anti-Semitism, too, I'm kind of tongue-in-cheek joking
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: about the Israel stuff, but he was actually doing some
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: anti-Semitic stuff, right?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: He was actually, I don't know what he was doing,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: but he had a song like We Are Hitler or something.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: What was the song he had? Yeah, it was Heil Hitler. Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: that was the song. And he apologized for that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Didn't he have a song that was sucking off his
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: cousin at one point too?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: No, he posted about that on Instagram. That him and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: his cousin used to watch porn and he sucked his
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: cousin's dick.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: He had a song. He said, I gave my cousin head.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I gave my cousin head.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It was actually a banger, yeah. It's like he goes,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so good. I'll make a song about sucking off
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: my little cousin and it'll be great.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: They blew each other when they were like 14. That
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: kind of happens. They would watch porn and suck each
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: other's dicks.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: That kind of happens, you know?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I guess it does if it happened to him. It
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: clearly is a real thing. It's not like a UFO
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: story where you're like, you got to leave it up to.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But then I believe something fantastical that you've never experienced before.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I don't have the confidence to ever admit that would happen,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: let alone write a great song about it and release it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And it's not like anybody confronted him with that information
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and he had to own up to it. No, he
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: just posted it one day on Twitter. Awesome. Yeah, I
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: think he said he sucked his cousin's dick for years.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: For years? No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he said
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it for years. Cousins, styled in all caps, is a
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: song by American rapper Kanye West, who was released on
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: April 21st, 2025 as intended second single from his unreleased
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: studio album, Cuck. What a name. It first released a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: West Twitter account before being sent to streaming platforms in
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: April 2023. Hip-hop song, it samples Worthy Originals by Double
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Virgo and interpolates 10 Perks, By David Blunt and such. Okay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: He was originally reluctant to write it, but has since
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: reflected on how it positively impacted West. Yeah. It was
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: removed from streaming platforms November of 2020. But why?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: You can't sing about that?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: His friend is, his cousin is actually in jail, it
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: seems like. Previously spoken of a cousin who is currently
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: serving a life sentence in jail for a murder he
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: committed at 17 years old. He mentioned him on Jimmy
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Kimmel Live in 2018 and the 2020 documentary Kim Kardashian West,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: The Justice Project. Hmm. He added that his cousin is
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: now serving a sentence for killing a pregnant woman. Oof.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: A few years after West told him they wouldn't look
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: at dirty magazines together anymore, West believed that he was
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: self-centered for taking the blame for his cousin's murder charge
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and for showing him those dirty magazines when he was six. What? What?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: So then this guy actually wrote the song and Kanye
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: performed the writing of it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Same with the other song you guys are talking about.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: American rapper David Blunt, who served as the main songwriter
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: for Cuck. Just having that in your Wikipedia. What did
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you do? Well, I was the main songwriter for Cuck. Oh, excellent. Amazing.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: How was that collaboration? While West was playing The Last
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of Us on his PlayStation 5, West originally declined Blunt's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: offer to turn it into a song, but later changed
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: his mind. Though Bluntz had become reluctant to write it,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: attempting to procrastinate by sending Wes different songs for the album,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: he eventually decided to record it as a demo in
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: his living room due to Wes' persistence. He persisted. He's like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: write it. Write about me sucking my cousin's dick. Writing
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: it over a beat he downloaded from YouTube due to
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: his main producers being asleep. That's hilarious. The fucking guy's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: working like 24 hours a day. Bluntz took around 20
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: minutes to finish the song. He later reflected on Cousins
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: as being very freeing for West when he made it,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: believing that West chose him to write it due to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: his blunt, in quotes, no pun intended, approach to songwriting
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that lacks double entendres. According to producer Chucky Beetz, he
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: was unaware that West used Blunt's song Ten Perks, which
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: he co-wrote and produced until a YouTube commenter told him
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: about the X-Post. So what was the X-Post? What did
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: he say? So there was a post... Yeah, where he
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: just came out.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It does make sense that writing that song helps him
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: deal with it. They say that with any PTSD, where
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it's like if you can journal about whatever the things are.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, here it is. It says, the song is called
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Cousins about my cousin that's locked in jail for killing
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: a pregnant lady a few years ago. After I told
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: him we wouldn't look at dirty magazines together anymore, perhaps
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: in my self-centered mess, I felt it was my fault
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that I showed him those dirty magazines of News 6,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and then we acted out what we saw. My dad
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: had Playboy magazines, but the magazines I found on top
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: of my mom's closet were different. My name is Yee,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and I sucked my cousin's dick until I was 14. Yay. Yay, sorry.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Tweet sent.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. Awesome. Go for him.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Jesus.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Six to 14.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That's a long time. A lot of dick sucking.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: That's a long time to be sucking cock, yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: And then one day he's like, enough. And then he
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: blames that on his cousin shooting a pregnant lady.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: His brother went down to, yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: That's Dave Blunt's.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: He's the guy who wrote it?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. Okay.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: He's big, huh? He's a big fella. I can see
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: why he procrastinates.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Hard to have energy when you're that big. Yeah. Hard
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to be really motivated to write a good song.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: That's a crazy story, man.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: But I mean, all brilliant people like that, like that
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: are that good are going to be insane.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. A bunch of different ways, but they're all insane
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: in some way.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Didn't he say he can like see like colors with sound?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: He said that he has that thing that when he
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: hears sound, he like visualizes it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Did he say that? That makes sense.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, clearly as a gift.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: He's definitely one of the most talented.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Ever.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And when you talk to him, it's like his
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: words are like barely contained inside of his mouth. Synesthesia.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: He has a neurological condition where auditory input such as
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: music or sound triggers involuntary visual experiences like seeing colors, shapes,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: or patterns. Makes sense.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: So when he hears songs, it's like doing mushrooms or something?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Like when you're talking to him, it's almost like these
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: words are like, pouring out of his mouth. Like, it's, like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: behind his brain. Like, rah! Like, they're just coming out.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: No filter.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's how he writes, too. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: think it's just, like, there's a creative storm inside of
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: his brain that's just flying out of him all the time.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it goes to show for what he did.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: For, like, his... What he was saying and everything and
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: how much people were, like, trying to cancel him, I guess.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And now he's back selling out a huge fucking stadium.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: It's nuts. I think... I mean... At some point in time,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: they must have just given up on trying to cancel them.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: The crazy thing is, like, Adidas backed away from their sponsorship,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: and it cost them billions of dollars. Billions. Because he
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: was basically saying the Jews control everything.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And they didn't like that, so they fired him.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So they killed his bank accounts. They basically controlled everything.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Way to prove him wrong, I guess.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I know. It's so funny that they did that. They
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: didn't just ignore him. But it's a weird time for...
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: anti-Jewish thinking and rhetoric. Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Well, it all just boils over from the Israel thing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: And then while we're here, we're kind of like, by
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the way, you're a little annoying also, by the way.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Just so you know. While I'm breaking it to you,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you guys are a little fucking irritating.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: They're very into being Jewish. And if you're not Jewish.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They love being a Jew.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Must be fun.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: They stop me. A lot of times in New York,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: they'll ask me if I'm Jewish. A lot. Because there's
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a special week where they hand out fucking Jew Bibles
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: or whatever they have.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Jew Bibles? I don't know. The Torah?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Torah. And then they'll stop me. These guys
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: with the curls and everything, they'll stop me and be like,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: are you Jewish? And I go, no.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: They don't get upset at you?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: No, they're not upset, no. But they think I'm a Jew.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I must have some sort of something going on.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: What do you think that is?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: You could be. Well, that's the thing about being Jewish.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It's not like being Somalian. Now we can go, that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: guy looks... Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Jewish could be red hair.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's where the sneaky Jew comes from. I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: do think that's where the theory of the sneaky Jew
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: is because.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: You can't spot him?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you can spot some of them. Like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Ari Shaffir, you're fucking... Everything about Ari is Jewish.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you spot that shit a mile away with Ari.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Ari's, like, too Jewish where he needs to, like, dilute
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the blood a little.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe get an operation.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Where do you start? The nose, 100%. But then you're
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: going to have to widen the face. Sure. The thing
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: about faces, that's like one of those things that you
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: notice if you see someone that got a nose job,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: like something looks wrong. Yeah. Like why is your nose
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: normal size and the rest of your face is strange?
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: You know, because that's the golden ratio. Like there's a
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: symmetry to the way your face is structured that if
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: you have the type of face that's supposed to have
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a big nose– And all of a sudden you get
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: this little Michael Jackson button nose.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you look weird. Something about your mind is like
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the ratios are off and you're like something's wrong here.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: That would be my biggest fear probably to go under
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the knife trying to be more handsome. And then you
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: come out with like a fucking, like a fucked up lip.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Or something right you know your face doesn't move so
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: every time you might look okay when you're staring at
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the mirror but then as soon as you start talking
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: your face looks like it's made out of rubber.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: What's gonna look what are all these like young 20
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: year olds who are getting Botox gonna look like when
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they're 40 and they just have a fucking mask on
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: like just.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Well it's the fillers the fillers are the real problem
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Botox is not great, but you're basically putting botulism in
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: your skin, and it can also cause a bunch of
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: other side effects. But I think the real problem is
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: those fillers. Like, some people have to get their face
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: removed and scrape the fillers out. What? Yeah, man.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: What do you mean to get their face removed?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they literally have to, like, fucking open your face
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: up and remove the fillers. Like, some ladies went.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: A little too far.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Like Terminator? I don't know the procedure. But I know
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that they have to get something in your skin underneath
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: there and suck it all out. Yeah. Depending on the fillers.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Some of them look good, though.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: With the fillers?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Well, just with the work.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Beast on look?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: No, I'm talking like what's the oldest Kardashian?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: The queen?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: The queen of the Kardashians?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Not the kids. The older lady.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. What is her name? Kris. Yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know who she's working with, but she must
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: have it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Some wizard.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: She must have it. Wizard.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: She has a squad. Tommy Tierney.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she has a squad.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Tommy.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Just has a little prayer for her.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: He casts a spell.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: He uses warlock magic to turn her young again.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: That's like a big project for these guys. They probably have...
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: That's not a simple fix. She's like 109 and she
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: looks 18.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Those are artists. Look at that. By the way, that's
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: a filter. That's fine. That's not what she really looks like.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: There's no way they did that to her neck. When
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you see her in real life on her television show,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: she does look very good for her age. Yeah. But
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: she doesn't look like that. And then.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Caitlyn did the opposite. Caitlyn could not look worse.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Caitlyn's, like, giving up, like, sad, actually.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Like, she'll walk in with a big handbag, fucking, and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the hair's all knotty, and it's, like, spooky.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. It's spooky. Well, I think once you've
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: given up on sex, and then you've kind of... It's also, like,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: did Caitlyn Jenner have the, excuse me, bottom surgery? I
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: don't think so. Has that been confirmed?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I think she did.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: She walks like she has a cock.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Well, she used to.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I guess you don't adjust that.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: You probably keep the same strut.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: That must be hard to adjust to not having a cock.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a long time ago.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Like, you ever get a toot taken out?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Long time ago, had the surgery?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: According to her memoir.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: But do you ever get, like, a toot taken out
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: or something, and it's, like, weird to adjust to it
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: for a while? Not having a penis must be fucking... Might.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Take a while. But now you have a tube. You
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: have a hole that you have to keep dilated with
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a rubber stick.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: It comes with instructions on how to clean it properly
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and shit. Do you ever clean a pocket pussy? It's
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the most disgusting thing I've ever done.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: In my life. We used to have a sponsorship with
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: a flashlight.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the problem. It's all fun and games
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: until you've got to wash it. And then you're just like,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: just rub our sleeve under the sink.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It's fucking dead squid.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got one at home too. It was a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: gift on a podcast. Some porn star was like, I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: guess she like.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, had it molded from her own?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Dipped her pussy in clay or whatever the fuck.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Very nice.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then she was hanging out.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Nice.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Mine was scented.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I watched an episode of the Kardashians where they
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: were all sitting around the living room and Caitlyn came
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: over and it was just like, what? You know, it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: one thing to be an old person.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I saw that same episode, I think.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Being an old person is okay. Like, you know, you
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: get old. We're all going to get old. We're all
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: going to look shit when we get old. But that's different.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You have like crazy long hair and fake boobs and
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: you look insane. You look like an old man with
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: fake boobs. Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I just think if I was to become a lady,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I think I'd be a real fucking femme bitch.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You think so?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I think I'd be a bad bitch.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Or at least I'd be doing my best to be.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would. What do you think you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: would do? I think I would fucking go out with
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the girls shopping.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Really get them to compliment me, make me feel good. Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I think I'd have a nice haircut. I'd shave probably.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: That could be a good start. Right.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe just get laser shit all over your face.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I'd get laser shit everywhere.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: It doesn't grow back.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Lasered.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You don't want to worry about stubble. No.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Why are you eating pussy? Pretending to be a lesbian.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: That's the thing about the weird ones are the ones
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: that they do it and then they're still straight. Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: That's called autogynephilia. Autogynephilia.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Autogynephilia.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they get aroused by the idea of pretending to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: be a woman. And they get sexually aroused. And they're
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: attracted to women. Right.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: But do they only do that in the bedroom? Or
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: is this like they have to live like.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: That all the time? Not anymore. Now that these new
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: openness of our society allows them to go out in
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: public and get excited and go into the women's room
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: with a hard cock. Yeah.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Don't blame them.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: This is the thing about like being open and progressive
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: and just being like, you know. Accepting of people that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: you're accepting also of sexual deviance. Like there are people
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: that aren't just transgender. They're fucking perverts and sex offenders.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: The old school ones. Like when I was a kid,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: there's old school sex offenders. It was normal. And now
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: they're just identify as a woman and they get a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Willy Wonka golden ticket. He could just.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? They get sent to like a
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: female prison or whatever?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Well, they definitely can do that in some places. California,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: at last count, when I looked, had 47 biological males
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: that were housed in women's prisons.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Some of them have gotten women pregnant. They keep their dick.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: There's no requirement in terms of as long as you identify.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: New Jersey is the same way. As long as you identify,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: it's like there's a self-identification thing. You identify as a woman,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: you're allowed to go. Into a woman's prison.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Do they make you put on high heels or anything?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think they get high heels in prison.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: There's got to be a test.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think there is.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: There's got to be some sort of a feminine test.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: All you have to do is get offended if they
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: suggest that you're not a woman.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's all you have to do?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: They're like, I'm a fucking woman. But there's some.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Female tests where you go like, oh, it's my dad's birthday.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to buy him a card. And she's like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you have to buy him a card. You can really
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: test them. You know, should I call my father today?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: You know, and he'd be like, nah. Very manly response
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: right there. Very manly response.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's, I mean, look, I wouldn't want to be
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the type of person who feels like you're trapped in
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: the wrong body. It's got to be horrible. It's not
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: like I don't have sympathy for them. But my position
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: has always been like, hey, but whatever happened to perverts?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: You know, you've just given perverts a license to be
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: around women by just saying that they're a woman.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: You know, there's no way of this. There's no distinction.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: There's no way. There's no way to differentiate between someone
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: who has gender dysphoria and someone who's just a pervert
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: who's operating out of a loophole. Yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: But you could probably argue that's the same everywhere in life.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: In terms of like.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: That's a big one, though.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: That's a big one.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: But people are scamming everywhere.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: There's con artists everywhere, you know? I could be from fucking...
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I could be from America. I'm pretending to be Irish
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: because I thought this would be like a way to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: fucking swindle people.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: If you were, you would really be like wasting your
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: talent at voices.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: You know? Well, my accent's barely Irish anymore. My accent...
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I know for a fact everyone in Ireland is going
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to be watching this going, fucking stupid American accent. What's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: he doing?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Because it's soft as shit. It's real soft. Because all
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: my friends are Irish. My wife's Irish. Sorry, all my
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: friends are American. My wife's American. I just sort of
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: talk around them. And I podcast so much that you
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: hear the accent.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got the dirt. There's a dirt.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a stupid shit.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: There's a way that Irish people talk that differentiates them
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: from other people with.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when I go home, I suck it in.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Every time I'm listening to it, I get it back.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: It's thick as shit, and then I come back here,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and no one understands me for a week, and then
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: it just sort of disappears. It floats away.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: See, to me, you sound very Irish. Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But to them, I sound like a prick.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah, yeah. Like you've softened up.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Softened up a lot. There's old clips of me on
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: YouTube and stuff where my accent's thick as shit, Conor
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: McGregor-style fucking, what's everybody doing?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: And now I'm like going to put the trash, put
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the trash out or whatever.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: But even when you're saying put the trash.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess there's little things in there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Little, right there. Yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: But to them, this is very, they'll notice this. They'll
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: notice little things. And they'll DM me and call me
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a fraud and a faggot. And I'll go, I'm sorry.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: There's not enough Irish people in my life anymore.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: How often do you go back?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I usually go back twice a year.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: This year I didn't go back, but next year I've
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: got like four trips booked already. I've got a bunch
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of shows. If anyone wants to come out and see me,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: please come see me. Yeah, I'm doing shows in Dublin
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and Limerick.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: That's fucking cool.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to go back. I've never been able
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to have a bigger audience here because most of my
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: career has been here. And everyone that has been through
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Legion of Skanks and Ari and all these type of
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: fans have come to me. So I don't really have
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the Irish accent. Sorry, I don't really have the Irish audience.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: So I go back.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Yeah. Because they get online too. They must
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: be senior.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: They do. I have a few. I have a few.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: But if I was in Ireland doing jokes about fucking Ireland,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I would be, I think I'd be much bigger.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: When you go back, do you have a bunch of
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Irish material about Ireland?
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Not really, no.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: No?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: No. Well, it changes. The place changes so much.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I have stuff about my dad I talk about a lot.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about my dad a lot. My dad, he's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a very Irish dad.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: And... just like he's just like an interesting guy he
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: used to be really angry my whole life and then
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: one day I think he stopped working and now he's
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a nice guy guy. You know, I think there's something
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: about your someday. I think your dad is a mean
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: prick until one day when you're like a grown up
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and then they just go, ah, you're all right. Like
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: they ease off, you know.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Well, one thing that happens, you get out of their house,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: so they don't have to take care of you anymore.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: That changes a lot.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that riding again to get the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: fuck out of there?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get out of their house, and you're not
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: their responsibility anymore, and then they can relax and are
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: around you. And then if you're doing all right with
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: your life, you've developed a career or what have you,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: then they're all right when they're around you.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: My friends used to call my dad's name is Aiden.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: My friends used to have a nickname for him called
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Raging Aiden because he was such a notorious shithead. And
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: one time, we were 18 or 17, and we were
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: going to a concert, and two of my friends were
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in the house. We were just drinking, pre-drinking, and he
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: came home from work or whatever, and he's like, hey,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: how's it going? And he's like raging, and he's like mad.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: And then he just, at one point, someone made a joke,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and he goes, get the fuck out of my house,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: all of you, get the fuck out of my house.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And he grabbed the beers and threw them out into
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the street. He goes, get the fuck out of here.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And my friend Bill, he walked off down the road,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and then my dad comes out and goes, Bill, come here,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: get back here, get back here. And we walked all
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: day up, and he goes, get the fuck out of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: my face. LAUGHTER He just saw a red.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Did he just hate his job?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, he used to work as a plumber.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So I think he just hated his job. I think
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he was just stressed about financial shit and everything. And
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: now he's like retired and he gardens and he's just
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: sweet little old pathetic man. He's like my nieces have
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the best version of him ever. Wow. He's just in
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the garden all day just planting and he'll send me
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: photos of flowers. I'm like, who is this guy?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Well, how many people are ruined by a job they
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: hate that they have to show up every day? Just
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: be living in shit and stress all day long and
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: then come home and realize that all that work that
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: you did, you still can barely pay your bills.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what's that Thoreau quote?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Most men live lives of quiet desperation. Wow.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: That's heavy shit. It's true. Most men are out there
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: working right now. Not that women aren't. But, you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: that's the it's the male quote, because, you know, it's
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: there's something about working these brutal horrible jobs where you're
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: still barely making enough money for food that's crazy and
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: you've wasted your life and then all of a sudden
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: you're 60 you know and then you're like well what
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: am I.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Doing yeah it's tough in America sometimes too it's like
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you want to go to you go to Waffle House
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and it's nice because Waffle House is great but the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: people working there are like the saddest humans alive like
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: it's like no one wants.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: To be at Waffle House they're like just all there
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: not only that it's you're going to see fights five
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: nights a.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Week yeah yeah They're exhausted.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: The odds of going to a Waffle House and seeing
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: a brawl are very high.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: What is it about? It's like the fucking bat signal
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: for fucking aggressive. I know.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: It's more so than a diner. Like, it's very rare
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: to see a brawl at a diner, like a 24-hour diner.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Denny's. No one's ever fought in Denny's in their life.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Waffle House is fucking Royal Rumba. Waffle House is just
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: viral video after viral video. Are they organizing it, maybe?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Like, is that, like, a good thing?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's where waffle houses are. It's probably like
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: they're in an area that's like more fucked up or something.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: But I mean, when you're drunk and it's like two
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning and you can get waffles like fuck.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: With butter and syrup.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: And you can get everything.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Eggs, bacon. Chicken, fried steak.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Anything you want.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: And you can sit in a little booth with a
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: couple of friends.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Have some coffee, talk some shit.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: And the next thing you know, some fat bitch skips
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: you in the line. or something and then fucking Waffle
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: House bro but you ever see that one with the
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: lady who worked there skinny little white chick with tattoos
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: fucked them all up she was this tiny skinny girl
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and all these big fucking fat ladies are screaming at
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: her I'm gonna fuck you up but she came out
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: she goes you wanna fucking go because the people that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: work there aren't like chumps either no they have to
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: go through some sort of probably it's called jail yeah
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: They have to do a minimum of jail. They have
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to have a jail experience to work at Waffle House.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: How many salt and batteries do you have? Okay, three.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: You could be a manager. You can go train all
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the other staff how to defend themselves at 2 o'clock
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in the morning from a fork to the neck.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it doesn't close. That's the other thing. Like
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: if you're a person looking for something to eat or
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: do and it's 4 o'clock in the morning, you don't
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: have a lot of options. And those people, if you're
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: up that late, Most likely you've made some poor choices. Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Or good ones. Great ones.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I grew up in Ireland, fist fights all
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the time. So when the nightclubs used to end at
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning in Dublin city center and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: everyone stayed out till four. It was like, it wasn't
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: even an option. To go home before the bar closed,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. I've never in my life heard
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: of someone going, ah, it's two o'clock, I better go.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: And you go, no, just two more hours of drinking.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: We're here. That's just the way it worked. I don't
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: know why. We just love it so much.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I think, well, apparently the Vikings used to have to
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: drink a lot of alcohol because that would kill the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: bacteria in the water. So I think there's probably some
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: sort of a thing that was just passed down through
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: generations of, I also think it's probably a whole lot
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: of repressed fucking trauma over the years that we can
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: only let out when we get blackout drunk and puke.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: That's our therapy, you know?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of stories in ancient days of
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: people who drank nothing but beer. Yeah. They just drank beer.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: So everyone was drunk all the time.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Which is really crazy if you.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Think about it. But you get to a point where
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you're kind of... Drunk, drunk, but you're kind of buzzed.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: All day, every day, you're just a little bit horny.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Just a little bit. And also, like, just the liver poisoning.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're probably dying in your 60s back then anyway.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Probably killed by a sword.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Fucking honorable way to go.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, before you're ever getting liver disease.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But they did that at the Guinness Brewery in Dublin, too.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: All these guys, the old coopers, would make the barrels,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: and they'd make millions of these per year. and they
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: had a free supply of Guinness to drink all day.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: So these guys would go to work, and they would
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: drink 12 pints of Guinness all day while they're fucking working.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And then after work, they'd go down to the Guinness bar,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the pub, and spend the money they just earned.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: And keep rolling.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then actually start drinking. The one that, during
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the day, was.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Moderation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: And you got a job there when you were 12,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and you were drinking six pints a day from 12.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Everyone was drinking young. Everyone was drinking young.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: When my dad was growing up, he would go to
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: pubs when he was 12. Holy shit. He's like 70 now,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: so that was back in the day.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Holy shit.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: But it's just a drinking culture, and it's 18 now,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: which means the law is 18, but we let you
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: at 15 if you're a chick, 16 if you're a fella.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: That's when people start drinking. Yeah. In pubs.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: In nightclubs for sure because you'd use your I used
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: my older brother's ID when I was he was four
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: years older than me so he was 18 so he
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: would have been 20 and I was 16 using his
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: ID but all the girls I grew up with would
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: go in even younger because the bouncers like see a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Q15 year old walk up they kind of let them
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: go in then I walk in like fucking covered in
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: pimples like a fucking moron they go no you're not
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: allowed in I go well that was my girlfriend they
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: go not tonight there's.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: A some sort of a series on I think it's
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: on Netflix about the Guinness family.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a drama.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: It's like a Peaky Blinders type deal.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. The accents are weird and everything. So
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: it's tough to watch. They sound like I fucking sound.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: It sounds shitty? Like it doesn't sound like a good
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Irish accent?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Not all of them. Some of them are from Ireland.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: So is it American actors faking it?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: By the way, it's loosely, loosely based on this certain
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: generation of the Guinness family.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Can we listen to some of this? And of course
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: our thoughts and prayers are most of all.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: With Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness' four children.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: From the creators of Peaky Blinders. A gift from Mr. Guinness.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: From a representative of the Dublin poor.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Trouble is brewing. So that accents. Yeah, he's a bullshit.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: He's faking it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: But that little guy they had as a leprechaun for
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: some reason, they literally introduced him. He goes, I fucking
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: don't have... I'll sell your Guinness in New York, sure
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: It's kind of amazing with people being that drunk all
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the time that anything ever got done. Poetry.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: That's... You know, the writing. We did all that.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: We never did.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: We never figured out, like, you know... you know, finance
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: or any of that important shit. But we had a
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: good time. We have a good time. Yeah, a lot
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: of poetry.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: A lot of singing.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of singing, dancing, plays, writing, talking. We talk
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: non-stop about Everton.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Everton.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: A conversation in Ireland is one of the most fun
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: things because you'll be laughing one second and then crying
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: the next. It's sort of just a rollercoaster. They love
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: getting into the nitty-gritty of, horrible things for some reason.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Irish people, we feed on misery.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: It's a booze thing, probably. It's a depressant.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I think it's just
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: we have to fill the dead air. So it's like,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: any time I talk to my... And I didn't really
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: notice this until I started bringing my wife to Ireland.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And she's like, very heavy subjects. And I was like,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I'd never even noticed. But we'd be having.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Dinner and then suddenly my mom would just go, oh,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: you know your cousin? She was dating a guy called Jerry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: He died.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: He's fucking got hit by a car last night, you know.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Or they'll bring up someone who lost a baby or whatever.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Just all the time. It's always like just misery. I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: don't even know this guy. What are you telling me?
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know my cousin. What the fuck are you
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: talking about? And they love it though. They love a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: little bit of fucking misery.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: What do you think that is? I don't know.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I think it comes.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, probably just passed down from, like, the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: famine or something, where we talked about it, you know?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Because the famine's a weird one that kind of still...
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: What was the.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Cause of the famine? The British. The British did it.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: What did they do?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: They took all our food. They left. So when Britain
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: was in control of Ireland in the 1800s, that was
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: the date, right? Well, there was like two major famines, right?
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I'm probably getting the dates wrong. But they gave the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Catholics the shittier land. They pushed the Catholics off the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: good land that could grow carrots and cabbage and whatever.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: They pushed them to the shitty land. And the only
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: thing that could grow on the shitty land was the potatoes.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And then when the potato plight happened, it wiped out
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the potatoes. It was the entire food source. But we
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: were still producing loads of food, but that was all
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: getting shipped over to the crown. So the crown... So
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: it was like a forced... forced famine or forced starvation, even.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: How many people died? I don't know.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know the number. But it rocked the... And
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the amount of people that left, too.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. Between 1845 and 1852, about one million people
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: died from starvation and disease, and roughly two million emigrated.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Between 1845 and 1855, potato blight triggered the crisis, but poverty,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: dependence on one crop, and the British government policies... Made
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: its consequences far worse. A fucking million people in less
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: than 10 years.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in Ireland would think
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit too favorable to how much the
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: British government actually played a role in that shit. But
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know where my family was back then. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: don't know how many ancestors I would have had back.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Then.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Must be like a hundred or something like people that
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I came from. I don't know who was affected by it,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: who was doing well.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Probably no one was doing real well. I don't know.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: It sounds like there's a starvation going on. It's probably
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: rough times.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: If you're poor, if you're living in a nice house
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and you're fucking doing something.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: One of the most painful facts is that the food
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: continued to leave Ireland while people starved. The story is
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: not simply that Ireland exported food and imported none. Grain
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: imports also rose sharply. The crucial distinction between the food
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: being available in the economy and starving people having the
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: money or assistance needed to obtain it. Crop failure alone
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: does not explain the scale of the deaths. So perplexity
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: is giving us the nuanced details.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Inactions of Lord John Russell's government worsening the disaster.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: But they say it affected the gene. There's a gene
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: where certain Irish people... can use less calories. Their body
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: will store the calories because they survived through those times.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I've heard of that before. There's a longevity
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: gene that's associated with it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like people that are the descendants of starving people
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: apparently live longer and they're more robust.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Really? But what, if you have an infant, it's like,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you know, today's world, we're so focused on making sure
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: all our infants and everyone has got the good shit.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: There was entire generations of kids who were born not
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: getting nutrients into their brain. So would that have a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: long-term effect on IQs? Would they be stupid, for lack
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: of a better word?
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: It's a good question.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: They passed that on. Would that have affected the national
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: average IQ of Ireland?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: It's a good question.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Is that why we like to drink and dance so much?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Because we starved ourselves a little dumb?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like it's embedded in the culture, and
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: that could be because of that. I wonder what life
• 53:45
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• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was great either.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it was.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: It was great before the English showed up and then
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: they kind of pushed us off our land in Everton.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: That's why the Irish love Palestine so much because they
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: just built in our system, built in our culture of
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: supporting the underdog, I guess.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: You know, no matter what that's going on, I think
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: we just will naturally side towards the people who are
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: getting genocided rather than the other people.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's kind of, Across the whole world now.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Now it is.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah. That's the weird thing about Jewish people in America.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that I know, I love
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: them to death, but they have a blind spot. And
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: that blind spot is their Jewish identity in Israel. Yeah.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: And they refuse to say it's a genocide. They refused
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: to condemn it, and they come up with reasons why
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: they had to bomb those buildings. Of course. Hamas did this,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: and Hamas did that, and October 7th this.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of over it now, though. I kind
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: of wish Israel were just going to hurry up, wipe
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: them off, so we can move on. I think it's
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: going on a little long now, Joe, and I don't
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: think they're going to change anything. So wipe them out,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: wipe out West Bank, and then... Why is Macklemore back
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: in my timeline? Because of Israel.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Well, because he made that stance. Sure. Free Palestine.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: But there wouldn't have been a stance to make if
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Israel just hurry up and wipe them out. Because they're
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: not going to stop. They're not going to stop. It's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: going to just keep going.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Don't you think? Do you see a solution?
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Settle down, lad. Are you trying to be the 2026
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Tommy Tiernan?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: That wasn't bad, actually.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, fuck.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Karma.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The weird thing is they just had an election, right?
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: And so Netanyahu might be out. And apparently this new guy...
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Is more hardcore than Netanyahu. Really?
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was going to swing the other way.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Listen, I'm very peripherally paying attention to this. It's like,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: what's going on over there?
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I read an article, like one paragraph in, I shut
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the laptop. I'm like, I can't do this.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: There's only so much you can take in.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want to take any more anymore. I feel
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: completely overwhelmed. And the days that I feel great are
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: the days that I don't absorb anything.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: I stay offline. I stay out of the social media
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and whatever people are screaming about. Live updates. Live updates.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: The close race sets the stage for weeks of negotiations
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: over the next government. Neither Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu nor
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: his main challenger. How would you say that name? Gadi.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Gadi Isinkat. We're projected to gain a parliamentary majority. Okay.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: So they're going to duke it out and maybe someone
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: dies in a bomb. Weeks of negotiation and maybe a
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: drone attack. Fuck. I saw it. He's rough though, right?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Isn't he like, uh, he's pretty hardcore.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: No idea.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Find out.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: They said it was a 16% turnout and it was
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a record number of votes or something.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: That's because everyone lives in Brooklyn. Most Israel people or
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: something live in America. I think they can.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Is that what? Well, obviously they, I don't know.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: But I think a lot of them live in America,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of Israelis. Is that why it's only 16%?
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Because that's particularly low.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: That seems crazy.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: This is, by the way, just a tweet that I
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: saw that I'm going to take as fact.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: What's a good election in America? What's our turnout?
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: 50.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: 50 is good?
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I believe 50% of people in America vote, and then
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: it's half and half, pretty much neck and neck, even though,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: you know, this way. And then of that half, like.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: So here it says less hardcore in domestic politics and
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: political style, but not clearly less hard line on military
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: force or Palestinian statehood. Eisencott is better understood as a
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: security hawk offering an alternative to Netanyahu's leadership and far
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: right allies, not a dovish alternative to Israel security policy.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: On military force, very hawkish. Former Israeli military chief, Eisencott,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: broadly supported operations in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran, associated with,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: how do you say that word? Dahiya? Dahiya doctrine? Using
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: overwhelming force, including against civilian infrastructure, to deter enemy attacks.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: His quieter manner should not be mistaken for reluctance to
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: use devastating force. Oh, fun. What a fun place.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Fun. I know people that go back over there to visit,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: like Jewish folks. I'm like, wow, this seems like a
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: risky place to visit. Seems like anything could pop off
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: over there.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a war zone? No.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: No. But I feel like.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: You want to?
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: No I don't but I feel like it could be
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: fucking it could wake me up a little I had.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Rick Springfield on you know Jessie's Girl you know that girl.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I wish that I had Jessie's Girl.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: So when he was 18 he went to Vietnam to
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: perform for the troops. He was in a band. And
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: he was in a fucking war zone. Like, they got
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: shot at. He lobbed mortars and apparently killed one of
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: the Viet Cong.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: They threw him a fucking grenade?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were lobbing mortars and one of
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: the guys told him, hey, you got one. And so,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: this is like, to this day, it fucks with him.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Because he's in his 70s now. And he's like, I
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: fucking killed a guy when I was 18. I didn't
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: sign up for that. Well, he didn't sign up for anything.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: He was over there to perform music.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: And they just got ambushed or something like that? They said,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: you got to fight your way out?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: No, they just allowed him to do it. Hey, you
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: want to drop a bomb?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was like, this is an easy kill. Would
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: you like to take the kill?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Something along those lines. Would you like to participate? You know,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: we have some bombs.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Would you like to kill this guy? But it's pretty easy.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: He's already wounded. You can have him if you want.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Well, he's trying to kill you. So what do you
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: want to do? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You want to lob
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: a bomb? I guess he did.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I think Vietnam is all times one of the scariest
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: ideas to me ever. Being in the jungle. Like, do
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: you ever just walk through the woods or the forest
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: anywhere and it's a little spooky?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: But being in a jungle, without the Vietnamese trying to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: kill you, just walking through that jungle alone between the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: snakes and everything, the tigers.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Not only that, you don't know that area
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: and they've been living there their whole lives. Exactly. And
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: they dig tunnels.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: And some guys would have to climb into the tunnels
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: to kill the Vietnamese.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Fuck that. Fuck that.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Imagine the nightmares.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to overeat so I can't fit in the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: fucking things or something. I'm finding some reason.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Right, because some of those tunnels are pretty small.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Tiny little things, yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Vietnam people were very small people.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: But even when I go camping and stuff like that,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I'll be in the middle of the night, you'll hear
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: a twig snap from something. And I'm scared it's a fucking... whatever,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: mountain lion or something.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Knowing it was a human with a fucking carrying a
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: knife in his mouth and fucking sneaking in to slit
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: my throat. That's nothing scarier than that. And then these
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: guys were just sent back and we were supposed to
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: just fucking listen to the mamas and the papas or whatever.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Everyone else is dancing, smoking weed, going, hey, welcome back.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: And these guys are like, yeah, I'm fried.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: And they're doing heroin and they're fucking hanging out and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: everyone knows the war is bullshit.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: And you're probably going to die. There's no reason to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: be over there. None of it makes any sense. And
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: now we know that the entire premise for entering into
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: the war was fabricated. Really? The Gulf of Tonkin incident.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not familiar.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: The Gulf of Tonkin incident is a false flag that
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: occurred before the war got popped off. There was already
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: some operations over there, and they claimed that the Viet
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Cong had attacked and blown up an American warship.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: In the Gulf of Tonkin. It never happened. It's all fake.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: And not only that, one of the guys that was
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: involved in that, perpetrating that, was Jim Morrison from The Doors.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: It was his dad. Really? Yeah, his dad. There's a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: lot of like crazy shit involved in like the musical
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: movement of the 1960s. There's a great book called, I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say a great book. It's a weird book. Was
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: it Strange Times in the Canyon?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Is that what it's called? Something like that. But it's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: all about how many of these people from the counterculture
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: movement in the 60s had connections to military intelligence.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very weird.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Weird scenes.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Weird scenes.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Weird scenes inside the canyon.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: So like it was almost orchestrated for a particular reason?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: That's the conspiracy theory angle, right? The conspiracy theory angle
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: is this is all orchestrated by the government and that
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: the CIA was manipulating people's minds, trying to get society
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: to unravel. Yeah. But I only buy so much of
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: it because I'm like, how do you make a guy
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: as talented as Jim Morrison? How do you make the doors?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: If the CIA can make Jimi Hendrix, why don't they
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: make more of them?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: It seems pretty awesome. Why wouldn't you?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe they have. Maybe the modern day, they learned that
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga will do or whatever. Maybe that's like the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: new thing.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Lady Gaga is working for the CIA. There's probably
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: somebody who believes that.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: There's probably some theory about Lady Gaga. Yeah.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Everyone's a plant now. That's the new thing. Everyone's a plant.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: That's what they say.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Anyone who's successful, they go plant for sure.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I go in the comments sometimes and I see all
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: the people that they think are plants.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: You're a plant.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: That's what they think.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting. It's interesting to me that I'm not.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: It's interesting to me that no one has tried to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: recruit me or pay me or hire me or influence
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: me to do things.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: They don't need to.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: They definitely come on the show and say some things
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: that aren't true. And I'm aware of that. And I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: feel like all I can do is like hear their perspective,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: let the world make their own distinction. And I think
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: people are pretty good at it these days. Fuck this guy.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: He's this. He's that. He's working for this guy and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: working for that guy. But if you talk to enough people,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: they'll assume that you've been recruited. But the really fascinating
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: thing is I haven't. That's what's really fascinating. The really
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: fascinating thing is that no one has any influence over
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: what goes on the show other than me.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe they have you and you don't even know it.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're under their spell, Joe.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Right, like a Manchurian candidate.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: They hacked your Instagram account. So now you're getting particular
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: things into the feed. Would that be crazy?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't be crazy, but that's not going to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: work because I barely go on Instagram. That's not going
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: to work. And the Instagram stuff that I get to,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: it's almost like ancient history shit.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Bar fights. A lot of assassinations. Really? A lot of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: like South American assassinations.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: The presidential stuff?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Well, no. People just getting whacked in a diner or
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: a pool hall. Someone comes in and just fucking blows
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: some guy's brains out in front of everybody.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: And then how do you feel after you put your
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: phone down?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Not great. That's one of the reasons why I try
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: to stay off of it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: You're ignoring your kids going, sorry, I've got to watch
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: this guy getting shot in the fucking head.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: No, I try not to do it at home. You've
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: got to.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: The only solution is just to get it and throw
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: it in a fucking river, and we all just go
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: back to kind of just emailing.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I've been toying with the idea of moving away
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: from a smartphone.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Have you seen this stuff about the TVs going on?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Yes. They call it a dumb phone, right?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Samsung TVs might use the mics of connected devices
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: to listen to you.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: They're definitely listening.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: So people always think that.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: They have to.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: But it's every other device around you listening and then
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: sending it to an ad company.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. It's like there's terms of services
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: that you sign up for when you click accept, and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: you don't even read those fucking things. And some of them,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: like the TikTok one, is insane. Yeah. I don't know
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: if it is insane now, but the old TikTok one
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: was TikTok. If you had a phone and that phone
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: had TikTok on it, TikTok was allowed to have access
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: to the other computers that are on the network that
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: don't have TikTok on them. So you're essentially allowing whatever
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: that program is, whatever the software is, to access TikTok. Passwords, keystrokes,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: your microphone, all kinds of wild shit. Yeah. It's like
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: some security expert looked at it and said it is
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: one of the worst pieces of software I've ever read.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: These are the new guys who bought it.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: No, this is before.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: This is the old guys who was forced to sell it.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: The old Chinese guys or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Now it's owned by the same people that own CNN, CBS.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Let them own everything. They're fucking giving him everything at
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: this point. You'll change the narrative if you just own
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: all forms of conversation.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be interesting to see what they
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: do with CNN, right? So all of a sudden, these
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Israel supporters own CNN. Yeah. So let's see what happens.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it's probably just a nail in the coffin for
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: all this mainstream shit, right?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough to kind of.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: People watch.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: People, like, love that. Like, people sit down.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: The olds.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The boomers. Yeah. The olds who are tired and
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: their knees hurt.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: And they're a little scared because they're old. And then
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: this guy's telling them why they should be scared. Whatever
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: it is. Fox News, CNN. It's the same talking points.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: It's the same bullshit. Yep.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: And then they'll be like, breaking news coming up. And
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: then they'll push some fucking pharmaceutical bullshit on you.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You've got your two types of olds. You've got
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: the old boomers that are liberals- That are basically like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: they have dried out brains and they just support narratives
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: no matter what.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I don't really know any old liberals, to be honest.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: You don't? Oh, old liberals are fascinating because they get
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: violently angry when you confront them with facts. Sure. They
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: get very angry. Yeah. Whereas old conservatives are worried about, like, immigration.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: They're in a state of fear.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: They're both in a state of fear.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Well, olds, a lot of the olds... They get in
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: a state of fear because they're dying. And they know
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: the end is near and they know their health is
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: not well.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: And they still think TV is truth. They were raised
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: on news is truth.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: And then they still have that.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: And they take all their boosters. This is what they
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: have now.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Skydance is the name of the company?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So they have all the HBOs, MTV, Nickelodeon, Paramount Plus. Nickelodeon? Yeah.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Yay! What do we think about Palestine?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: TBS, Smithsonian, TNT.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: TNT. Wow. Warner Brothers. What are the other ones? Adult Swim. Wow.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Cartoon Network.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: All these cartoons. It's crazy.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Country Music Channel. Wow.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Food Network.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Golf.com. Cooking. They own the golf? And DC Comics?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: There's also the Golf Channel.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Fuck, they own everything. That is great. Eurosport? That is... Discovery?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I'd love to own all that, to be honest.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: What would you do? Animal Planet?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I would sort of just... I don't know. I'd probably
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: just fuck with people who bullied me when I was
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: younger or something. Put out a random little news article
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: every now and again about some guy having a little dick.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: They own the free press. They own everything. It's a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: strange time. But it's like All that mainstream stuff, other
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: than things like Paramount Plus and streaming networks that show
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: shows and things that people actually still watch, most people
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: are fucking tuned out to that. Young people are just like,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: you're not going to get them.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: They're done.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: It'd be crazy to meet a 20-year-old who sits down
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and puts on a little bit of fucking CNN at night.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: And really is invested.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Wow. Wow. I didn't know.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: It's like the most boring– and it's like embarrassing. It's
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: like things whizzing by the screen and shit like that.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Coming up, breaking news, coming up. It's like it's been
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: coming up forever.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Carr was on the podcast yesterday and one of
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: the things that he brought up was that– was it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: his father that he was talking about who recognized that
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: when they started putting music on the news?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So when they started putting music on the news, like, oh, fuck.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: They're making it. Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. Breaking news.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. They hired some movie director.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it zooms in to fucking Anderson Cooper
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: standing there with his glasses on, looking very intelligent, very professional.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Standing in front of a big screen TV.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Breaking news today.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: We've got some bar charts that mean nothing. And you
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: can sit there and go, hmm, I'm learning. But a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: lot of people watch that shit, too, and then you go,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: what did you just watch? And they go, I don't
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: really know.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: They just got upset.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: They kind of just, yeah, they kind of just phase
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: out with the headlines.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Well, no, the numbers are very low, which is really
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: crazy that people are still willing to buy it. Like,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't understand that that's a
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: dying thing.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Well, once you also know that they have an obligation
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: to the advertisers to kind of say certain things, then
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: it's like the whole thing is a fraud.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of the old liberals do not
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: want to believe that. And that's one of the things.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: They're not doing it for the good of their fucking health.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: It's a business, and your attention is the fucking money.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Well, the best piece of evidence is that they don't
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: criticize pharmaceutical drug companies because they're a primary advertiser.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: You think it's unethical to do that?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Yes. But there's only two countries that even allow it,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: the United States and New Zealand.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: What's going on over there?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Apparently, they're much more restrictive, though, than us.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: The Kiwis, yeah.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: But in the United States, they allow people like... How
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: many fucking ads, if you watch regular television, do you
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: see that are pharmaceutical drugs that are naming off a
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: bunch of very obscure conditions that you've never even heard of?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: So why is there enough of a desire for this
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: that you're going to put an ad on television for
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: a very obscure medication?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: If you're sick and you need it, you should... Be
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: able to find it.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Ask your doctor.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't be impulse like, oh, that sounds like me.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I should try it out.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Ask your doctor, Colm, about fuck it all. I think
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: what's really going on, though, and this is not my take.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: This is Cali Means and a lot of these other people.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Their position is that why they do that is not
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: to advertise their drugs so people buy the drugs. They
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: do that so that the networks won't criticize the pharmaceutical
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: drug companies. So they advertise all their various products. Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: And it gets it out there. But more importantly, it
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: protects them from the eye of Sauron.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: It protects them from the news looking in. Because if
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: their news really was the news, they would look into
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: all the adverse drug deaths and all the different people
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: that die because of these fucking drugs that wind up
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: getting pulled from the market because the FDA didn't do
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: their due diligence when they passed them.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I remember I was listening to some– guy
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: had a role in, you know, I guess, big pharma
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: regulations or whatever. And they were talking about Purdue Pharma.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: And one of the things that was crazy was the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: guy asked him a question. He goes, is Purdue Pharma,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: with all of their unethical techniques that they did to
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: push that heroin essentially on innocent people, Why are they
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: operating uniquely in the industry? And they're like, no, every
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: single pharmaceutical company follows the exact same way. The problem
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: was is that Purdue Pharma and the OxyContin fucked up
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: communities to such a degree that they couldn't get away
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: with it. Whereas Xanax, you could argue, there's a lot
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: of people addicted to Xanax. But it's not enough that
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: people are tweaking and smashing fucking someone's head in at
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: a liquor store for $ 20. Exactly. So they're getting away
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: with it, you know? Yeah, Xanax can function on it. Yeah,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: it's the same lying. It's the same bullshit. It's the same, like,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: fucking doctored results, things like that.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen someone trying to get off Xanax?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: No, actually. I haven't lived through that, no.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: It is one of the hardest ones, apparently. I know
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: a few people that have had it, but one of
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: them real well. And Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson is a
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: big one. Like, Jordan, he got addicted to Xanax, and
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: it took him a full year.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Is that why he disappeared for a while?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Because of Xanax?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: He had to go through some medical detox in Russia.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Why Russia? I don't know.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Did they put him into a coma or something? I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: He doesn't really talk too much about it, but he
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: seems different. And I think there's a bunch of factors
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: there why he seems different. He was very wise and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: interesting when I first met him. Not that he's not still.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: He's very wise, very interesting, very well-read guy. But much
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: more damaged now. I mean, whether that is because of health,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's also the pressure that comes with fame.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was a 40-something-year-old professor in Toronto, you know,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: who was a psychologist. He's not a guy who was
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: seeking out this kind of attention and fame. And then
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's doing lectures in front of
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people all over the world, like
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: traveling everywhere, doing these sold-out lectures where he's talking about
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: all kinds of different interesting things. And it showed that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: people have a hunger for fascinating topics and deep discussions
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: and conversations. Cause his, his lectures were very, very popular.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: But I think over time, like some of his outbursts
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: and like, he's like, you know, yelled at people online,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: all these different things. I think some of that is
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: just the pressure. Most people don't have any idea what
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: that pressure is like. And then you all of a
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: sudden get in it when you're in your forties and
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: you were never seeking it. And then, Everywhere you go,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: people are misrepresenting who you are and trying to make
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: it seem as if you're some evil, right-wing, racist, xenophobic, transphobic, homophobic... Yeah.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Ideologue It would be exhausting to have to live your
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: life where every single thing is a take that is
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: like a fucking controversial argument with people. Because everywhere he lives...
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: you know, in conversation is a difficulty. It's not a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: very simple, you know, let's all have ice cream and
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: watch fucking NBA. It's something about surgeons should be fucking
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: losing their license for operating on trans people or whatever,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you know? And that's just a difficult, it's a real
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: heavy life to be in that conversation.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Right. All the time. All the time. Yeah, that's one
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: of the benefits of doing a podcast, especially if you're
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: a comic, is Like, I could have a guy on
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: one day that talks about that stuff, and then the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: next guy on, he, you know, met Bigfoot.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Is that a Bigfoot t-shirt? It's a Sasquatch fucking shirt.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: I went to Mount Rushmore. I bet I'm the ultimate tourist.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: I'll do it all.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I love it. I love going to fucking bookies
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: and getting a photo with the mascot. I went to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. I did one of the best trips of
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: my life last summer. I did. I heard about how
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: beautiful Montana is and everything. So I fucking worked with
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: my agent. We went to Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: which is probably the most beautiful place in fucking America.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Pretty gorgeous.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: All up there. And now I've got the... So we
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: went everywhere. But over there, which is like, I think
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Rapid City is the closest to... Rapid City's nice, but
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: then they've got the Black Mountains out there. The Black
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Forest Mountains. It's just beautiful out there.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Beautiful.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: So that's all I want to do now.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Is there supposedly Bigfoot sightings near Mount Rushmore?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think there is. That's the funny thing about it.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: I think I just, it was the only thing that
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: didn't say, like, I heart fucking Mount Rushmore. So I
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: wanted a shirt, and I was like, this will kind
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: of do, a Sasquatch type of Mount Rushmore shirt.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: That's a special kind of person, the person who really
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: loves Bigfoot.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: I'd love to go to these places and do a
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: little hunting.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Duncan and I did it.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: You went looking for the guys?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Duncan Trussell and I. I had a show back
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: in 2011 or 12 called Joe Rogan Questions Everything. And
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: one of the things we were like, let's do a
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: deep dive on chemtrails. Let's do a deep dive on UFOs.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Let's do a deep dive. And so we did a
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: deep dive on Bigfoot hunters. So we went and met
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: people that met Bigfoot. A lot of it is in
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the hotbed.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Also, a lot of meth. A lot of meth. A
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: lot of Sasquatch. A lot of heroin. A lot of Sasquatch.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: There is a car.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Are these the Bigfoot sightings yeah look where the big
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: clump is here.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Oh it's in Texas yeah he's Texas close to the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: pod is.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: That where the moonshine's made I have no idea I
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: just popped it up because I was gonna see it.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Is there any near Austin but there's like there's not
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: yeah there's.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot sightings in Austin yeah there's at least four one
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: down in Wimberley whoa are you sure those aren't Metzger
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: with a wig on yeah Let's see what it says.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: When is that?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: Airman encounters nighttime encounter on Birdstrom Air Force Base.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: In 81 on Air Force Base. He might be. Yeah,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: it might be an alien.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: September 2013. Man has afternoon sighting of large bipedal creature.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Afternoon sighting. We're sitting there drinking moonshine. All of a
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: sudden this big air fella come over to me and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: wants me to suck his dick. I'm like, I'm not
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: going to do it. I'm not going to do it.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: 1980, while two go shoot target practice, two men see upright,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: hair-covered figure.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Homeless guy.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Could be anything.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: It was 1980.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: A guy with a fur jacket on.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: There was no homeless people in the 80s? Is that
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: what you're saying?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: There was barely anybody here back then. This is a
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: ghost town.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: So is the Northwest up in Washington, is that more
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: busy than this?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of bears up there, and bears
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: walk upright. They do it all the time. And I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: think that's a lot of it. Also, one of the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: first things that Duncan and I noticed when we went
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: up there is that when you're in the Pacific Northwest,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: the trees are so dense because it rains so much.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: It's like a box of Q-tips. Like you can't see.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: You can't see through the trees. Like there's so many trees.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: And you just sort of see a shadow.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: You see a shadow. You see a thing moving. And
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: then in your head, your head starts spinning. Like I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: was in Alberta once, and for like a second, I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: thought I saw a wolf. And it was a squirrel. Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: It was a squirrel moving through the woods. And I
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: saw the gray. And I think, what? It was a
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: fucking squirrel. Like, what's wrong with me? But my mind
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: had convinced me for a very short amount of time
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: that it was a wolf. Definitely. And I was like,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: you silly bitch.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Where was this?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Alberta.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: Alberta. Nice.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Very, again, very dense. Yeah. We did see a wolf
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: up there. I'm pretty sure. It was either a wolf
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: or a big coyote. But it was at dusk. And
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: it was running across the road. But they have wolves
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: up there.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: My friends, John and Jen, they run a bear hunting
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: operation up there. Oh, cool. And they send me photos
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: of wolves. They just sent me a photo of a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: wolf that were over a trail cam today. Wow.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: That's all, that's like kind of all I want to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: do right now. I'm organizing like a hike in the thoroughfare.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Do you know that? In South Yellowstone?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, you want to go to the woods?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: It's, It's not even the woods. It's just, like, open
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: rolling hills in, like, South Yellowstone near the lake. It's
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: called the thoroughfare. And then you walk to the middle
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: of it. It's 40 miles in any direction from a road. Wow.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: And it's grizzly country, wolf country, elk, some moose, I believe.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: You want to go in there? Yeah.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: That's all I want to do.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Why do you want to do that?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Just because I just started solo hiking, and it's, like,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: my favorite thing in the world.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: So do you get, like, a big backpack with all
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: your food and a tent in it and the whole deal? Exactly.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: And then it's the most... I don't... I can't even
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: explain it, but it's like a therapeutically, you pack up
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: all your shit. You have no distractions. You make your
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: food and then you just, all your goal is just march.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: By yourself. Yeah.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: And you'll meet people. You'll say hello. I've never done
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: like the thoroughfare that's as wild, but I'm definitely going
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: But you've done the solo camping where you just put
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: the backpack on. How far deep into the mountains did
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: you go?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've never gone too crazy. I've gone like along
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: the Appalachian Trail and things like that. So you don't
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: see people.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: But the trail is at least it's a documented trail.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: It is a documented trail. You'll have designated campsites and
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: then there's all like beer safety stuff where you're not
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: allowed to cook where you sleep and you have the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: beer hangs and things like that.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm excited.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: You're worried about me?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: I'm a little worried about you. Yeah. Do you bring
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: an inReach or anything? Do you know what that is? Yeah.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Like a Garmin. Satellite. Yeah.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: I got to buy a Garmin. Yeah. Or is that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: how you say it? I'm not going to buy one,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: a good expensive one. I've got to get bear spray,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: things like that.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: And then it seems like people do it all the time.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: I've watched so many just vlogs of people walking around
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: these areas. And as long as you're not stupid and
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: safe and they get cool videos, they're woken up by
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the elk fucking bugling in the morning and all this stuff.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: That's all I want to do is just, I don't
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: have any kids yet. So I'm kind of hoping to.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: get this out of the way before it seems a
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: little too responsible, irresponsible.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're going to do
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: the solo, I can get eaten by a wolf, do
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: it now.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: But the thoroughfare is definitely my goal.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: That's what I want to do.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: It's eight days. You have to pack all your shit
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: with you and you just head out. You just head out.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: But something about that, when I'm marching on those, after
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: about 20 minutes, I just, I don't know, I get
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: into this weird fucking headspace where I'm just like, march, march, march.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: And that's all I'm thinking. I'm just empty, empty head.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: I think I got too many fucking thoughts going on
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: I think everybody does.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I also think that there's something about being in
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: the woods that's very therapeutic just naturally because that's the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: natural environment where human beings are supposed to be. We're
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: supposed to be in nature. We are a part of nature.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: And we're disconnected by nature by being in cities. And
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of anxiety and weirdness
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: that comes with that and that it goes away. When
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: you're out in the woods.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: It definitely goes away. And I think the simplicity of
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: life is like your phone, you don't have signal. So
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. You have your map out. I'd
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: love to even go a step further and have like
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: a fucking compass and a real map and try to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: do like orienteering style. But I don't, I don't really
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: have to.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: I have a bunch of friends who do solo hunts
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: where they go in and hunt.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Solo.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: And where do they do this all over? They do
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: this everywhere?
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you have to go to designated areas
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: and you have to go to places where you can
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: get a tag. But there's a bunch of places where
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: you can get what's called an over-the-counter tag. Or, you know,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: you put in for a draw. So what it means
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: is these biologists determine, like, say if you're deer hunting,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: the biologists determine there's X amount of deer in this area.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: And to keep the population healthy, you should remove X amount.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: And so they put out generally enough tags to be...
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Most people aren't successful, so it's like they put out
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: more tags probably than they want animals killed.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: So they'll give you like five tags? No, no.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Most likely you get one. You would get one tag,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: but they put tags out for, you know... Let's say,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: so there's the way public land works in America. There's
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: certain areas that are restricted units where it takes a
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: long time to get a tag. Like if you want
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: to get like a Nevada elk tag, very hard to get.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: you might put in for 20 years, and then you
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: get one. So it's a tag of a lifetime. And
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: if you get a Nevada elk tag, it's a big
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: one because they have giant elk in Nevada. It's a
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: very famous place to elk hunt. Wow. And so people
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: will wait forever. They finally get that tag, and then
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: they organize. They get some friends to help them, and
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: then they'll go out and they'll pack in.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: And these are probably... In the kind of mountainous regions
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: of Nevada where the grass is out.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Like the Apache reservations in Nevada are famous for elk
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: hunting because it's like some of the best elk hunting
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: territory in the world. And the way it works is
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: the nations control it. So. Reservations in our country, they're
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: essentially of their own laws. And they're not subject to
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: the laws of the United States government.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Even with animals? Yeah, with everything.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, it's crazy. Like in Canada, they
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: alongside everyone else. So in Canada, it's called Crownland. That's
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: what public land is in Canada. And if you're on
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Crownland and you're a whitey like me or you, you
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: get a tag for a bear or a tag for
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: an elk or a tag for a moose. They can
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: do whatever they want. The indigenous people, they call them
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: First Nation people. When we were up there, we were fishing, right?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: And when you're fishing, you're allowed to catch one walleye
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: a day. So we're on this dock and we're catching,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: but we're next to these natives and they're pulling in
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: walleyes left and right and putting them in buckets. They
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: can catch as many as they want. They can use
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: spotlights at night to shoot moose. So they blind this
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: moose to the spotlight and boom, they're shooting them off
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: the top of trucks.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: And they eat moose?
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Yep. Oh, moose are delicious.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Is moose good?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's delicious.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I've never seen one. I want to see one so bad.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: I want to go up to the Adirondacks and do
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: some canoeing.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: If you see a moose. Yeah. The thing about a moose,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: as opposed to every other deer species, they will fucking
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: kill you.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: They're going to go nuts.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: They'll kill you. They will stomp you to death.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I want to see one from afar. I don't want
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: to get stomped to death by a moose.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: That's a little too much. The females with their calves
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: are the most dangerous. They're fucking dangerous. They're huge. You
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: don't realize how big they are until you're with them.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh my God. I only went moose hunting once,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: and that was in B.C., And it is wild when
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: you see one in real life. You can't believe how
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: big they are. They're so big. They're enormous. And they
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: will fucking kill you. Like, they'll kill you. Because they
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: have to defend themselves. They're around bears and wolves. They're
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: used to stomping things. And they weigh 1,800 pounds.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: And they're probably, they kind of waddle in the water
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: a little, right?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: They go in the water.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: You're canoeing, they'll just fucking.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Well, they won't come after you if you're in a canoe.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: No. They'll come after you if you're on the land
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: and they feel like you're too close or you might
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: be a problem. And these guys are fast, too. Oh,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: they're faster than you and me. That's for fuck's sake.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: They have four legs and big muscles. Yeah, they'll fuck
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: you up.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: I kind of. That's the way I want to go.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Get stomped by a moose?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Something.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Getting stomped by a wild animal, standing on a snake
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: while you're on a hike or something like that.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: That's how you want to go?
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Kind of tragically hilarious, yeah.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: That's a scenario.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: And everybody makes fun of me on a podcast going,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: look at that fucking idiot Colin. Tried to get a
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: fucking selfie with a moose and he fucking got that
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: antler in the back of the head.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that Instagram page, Tourons of Yellowstone?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: No. Oh. It's just fat idiots getting ran over by
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: a bison.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Bisons.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Sending people flying through the air.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a video last year of this old guy,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: some old geezer, and... the bison fucking hit him and
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: he fucking he did he did a huge and he
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: got up brushed himself off and fucking he was good
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: but it was unlucky because I think the bison chased
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: a car that drove by and then when the car
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: moved away they were right there so they were doing
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: their distance right and then they were running around a
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: tree like fucking three stooges trying to get away and
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: then he just caught one and he went and it's
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: like a viral photo of him just being thrown huge in.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: The sky there's so many people that want selfies.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: With those animals that was crazy.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: And to this day, people, there's something about, I wonder
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: how many people have died from selfies.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of fine though. It's kind of, it's
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: kind of, it's kind of, there's a lot of traffic.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: And if you, if you're on a cliff getting a
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: selfie and you tumble down. Right. It's kind of okay
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: to me. Or if you're, or if a fucking elephant fucking.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: It's tragic, but it's.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: It's tragic, sure.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: It's understandable. And especially young people.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: But not all deaths have to be tragic, do they?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: For fuck's sake. Well, we're all going to die, and
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: some deaths are learning experiences for the people that survive.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: It's never happened to me.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: It's not happened to me.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Not yet.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: That's the New York mentality. When someone gets pushed in
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: front of a train, we all kind of go, that
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't me.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Well, it happens infrequently enough that you're not nervous about it,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: but you know it's a possibility. You don't stand right
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: there and, like, peek out.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that would happen to me. I
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: don't know why. I just have this confident feeling that
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: someone's not going to shove me in front of a
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: fucking train.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Something about it. I just think they know better.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: They know better. Yeah. Well, they probably try to do
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: vulnerable people.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Little Asian ladies, yeah, probably. That would be the easiest.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: How many people every year get pushed in front of
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: a train?
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: I think one or two. It's like a big news
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: story usually.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If even.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: If even that much. Yeah.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: But I've never gone hunting. I'm organizing a hunting trip.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: My cousin, he's a hunter in Ireland. He's a YouTuber now, actually.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: He makes these great videos.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Hunting?
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he hunts in Ireland. He hunts there in the
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Shlevebloom Mountains. Huge, beautiful. They're more like Irish mountains or hills,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: by the way, but beautiful. So he's a YouTuber now.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Cahal Rhone, if anyone wants to go check out this,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: is a shout-out to my little cousin.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: 20 to 25 people are pushed onto the tracks per year.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, but they're pushed onto the tracks.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: It's just the New York subway.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Not necessarily people struck or killed by a train.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: Some victims escape before the train arrives. December 24, Brooklyn case.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: The victim climbed back onto the platform seconds before an
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: incoming train.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: See, that's what I would do.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: What if you're old and you can't pull yourself up
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: and you realize you're just going to sit there until
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: that train turns you into a jelly?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: Also, there's a count on selfie deaths.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: Let's guess. Let's guess. How many people per year die
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: by selfie?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Globally?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: 400? I say 2,000. Yeah, I think you're right. I'm
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: fucked up.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: 2,000.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Let me go again. Because... 2010.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: 2010, okay. You say 2010, I'll say 1700.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: I'll go low. Way too high. Way too high. Really?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just reported, so it's.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: 425 deaths linked, over 49 countries, I would have to
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: say since 2011 or so.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: But how many of them get reported?
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: That's what I'd say.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Like if a guy falls off a mountain, how do
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: you know how he fell off the mountain?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you ever see that, the fellow who got caught
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: killing his wife? I think it was India, maybe I'm wrong,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: but they were getting photos and he kept going a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: little further, but he didn't realize people were up on
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: another cliff to see it and then he ran over
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: to her and just shoved her off the fucking thing.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: And people were watching?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: People were watching from afar. They saw him fucking shove her.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: He almost got away with it. But then he would
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: have to come down and be like, oh, she wanted
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: a photo.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Look at this. Oscar Otero Aguilar died accidentally shooting himself
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: while posing for a selfie with a loaded handgun.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: That's happened a few times more recently, too.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: That's in Mexico City. Taj Mahal, India. A disputed example.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Japanese tourist Haidito Ueda was widely reported to have died
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: falling on stairs while taking a selfie at the monument's
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: royal gate. An eyewitness described, a selfie-related fall, but a
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: police official told AFP the postpartum found a heart attack. Okay.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Right, but if I fall off a cliff because I'm
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: taking a selfie, it's the fucking head wound that kills me,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: but the selfie didn't kill me. So that's kind of,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: it's the selfie led to the heart attack, no?
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: So this is going to evolve into being caught while live-streaming.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe he had a heart attack when he realized he
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: was falling down the stairs, and he's 66 years old,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: and he realized, oh, my God, I'm going to die.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: So he had a heart attack. That's possible, too, because
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: you do freak out when you realize, like, oh, my God,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: I might die. And then your heart's like, check, please.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I'm about to die right now.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: But that means he's probably on the way to dying anyway.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: That's what killed him, just a little bit of a
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: freak out from falling down a flight of stairs? Yeah.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: Work on your core strength, sir.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: Have you ever thought you were going to die? Have
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: you ever like really were like, oh.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: I was in an accident when I was 14, not
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: an accident with a car. We were hanging out in this,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: it was like this place that had these giant sewer pipes,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: like these huge cement sewer pipes. And there was this crane,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: this attachment that would lift up the pipes, like it
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: would slide into the pipes and they would put it
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: on a crane to lift them up. And we were
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: fucking around, and something happened, and we were climbing on
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: this thing, and it fell. And it hit me on
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: the head. It hit me on the back of the head.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: I still have a scar on the back of my head.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: And it hit me so hard that my consciousness grayed out.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: And I survived, but I thought I was dying. I
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: was convinced I was dying. And I was 14. I
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: had to go to the hospital. Just blood everywhere. I
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: still have this gash.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: How do they deal with it back then? They just
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: sort of say, hey, toughen up?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: Well, they said, you're okay. You're not dead.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how they just dealt with it in the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: 80s or whatever.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I got stitches because it's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: a pretty significant scar. It's like right here, right on that.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: But if I was here instead of here, I'd be dead. Yeah.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: So it grazed my head. Like this thing dinged the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: back of my head and could have easily crushed my skull.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was this huge metal thing that they
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: used to pick up these huge cement tubes. And it
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: banged my head, and I thought I was dead.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: I thought it was going. Like, it hit me so hard,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: and it was so big, and the pain was so extreme.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: And I didn't go unconscious, but I got real close,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: You're a rock for sure.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Like more consciousness, and everything went gray. And I was like, oh,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: my God, I'm going to die. I'm going to die.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: And my friends had to take me to the hospital.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very scary. I think my friends took
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: me to my parents. My parents took me to the hospital.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: It's hard to remember it all because it was so traumatic.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: But I thought at that moment I was dead. Wow.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: You were like saying goodbye to everybody? No.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: I was just like, ah! I was just terrified. Like,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: I've never even done anything. Now I'm dead. For being retarded.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Being a dumb kid.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: I went to Laos years ago. I traveled Southeast Asia
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: when I was younger. Then Thailand, Vietnam, Laos. Laos, as
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes people call it. But the whole place there is
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: built on like a tubing economy where they just, you
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: get in a tube and you float down a river
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: from bar to bar. It's like this cool party. Everywhere
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: you go, there's a DJ and each place has like
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: a slide. Each bar has a slide. So you get
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: in this tube at the start of the day where
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: they drive you up to the top of the mountain.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: You jump in the water, you float. And then there's
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: these little seven-year-old Thailand boys with a water bottle full
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: of water on a fucking rope. And they're swinging it.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: And there's like six of them. And they're like swinging it.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: And they'll fly through the sky. Like fucking arrows from
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: the fucking Indians flying. And they'll land, boom, right in
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: your lap. And they'll fucking pull you in. And you'll
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: flip them with like a fucking euro or whatever it was.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: These are kids because that's their job. And, I mean,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: they had a fucking accuracy like insane. You want to
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: see talented people, like people in Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, because
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: they learn just one thing since they're fucking can stand.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: And it was incredible. But I was over it. One
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: of these places had this cliff you would jump off.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: And then you'd land on this big inflatable, like, cushion.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: I said, massive, like 20 feet wide. And I jumped
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: on it, fell off it. And then whatever happened to something,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: which is natural in the water. And I went down.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Someone else jumped on it. And the thing kind of
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: rotated around. So then I came up. I'm just fucking
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: trapped under this whole thing. And then I said, fuck,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: I swam. And I tried to swim somewhere else. But
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: it followed me up and then I hit it again.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like... Then I remember I started to panic.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: And then I do remember specifically going, relax, don't panic.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: And I swam down and I just swam. And apparently
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: I swam for like fucking so far. And then I
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: came up like... And everyone was worried about me. Everyone
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: was fucking crazy.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Holy fuck.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because people died down there. I think they kind
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: of shut that down. That used to be like the coolest...
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: That was like the last fun Southeast Asia thing where...
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: White people could die and it didn't matter. It just
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: sort of didn't matter. It's like, yeah, welcome to fucking Vietnam, baby.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: You're going to die here. But it's so much fun.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: Well, before the internet, people would die and it would
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: only be a local story. Great.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: What a nice time to not have to hear about
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: every fucking person that goes through.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's a big problem with society today is
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: that we are inundated by the bad news of the
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: whole world. So 8 billion people worth of bad news.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: And then the visual. stuff of the amount of people
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: I've seen die is crazy. And the amount of things
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: I've experienced through these fucking screens that should not, you know.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Versus what you've actually seen in real life. Yeah.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: It's a big, it's a big problem. And it's a
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: big problem desensitizing young people. They used to think that
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: video games desensitized young people. I'm sure they do. I'm
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: sure being able to shoot a bunch of people in
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: Call of Duty definitely does some kind of thing to
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: your brain. It's an unusual thing. And people are blood
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: splattering all over the place. And you're like, fuck yeah.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: You're having fun. But then when you're seeing it live
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: all the time. When I was a kid, until Faces
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: of Death came out, Do you know what that is? No.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: VHS tapes that came out in the 19– God, I
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: want to say it's the 1980s they came out. And
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: it was a collection of videos of people dying. One
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: of them was this guy. They attached him to– I
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: think they attached him to cars. Like they tied his
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: arms and legs and then pulled him apart. And you
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: see a bunch of things. One of them, the famous one,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: was Bud Dwyer.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: You know, from that song, Hey Man, Nice Shot. Yeah.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: Like that guy, he got caught in some corruption thing.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: I believe it was in Pennsylvania. I think it was. Anyway,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: puts a. 44 Magnum in his mouth and just blows
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: his brains out in front of everybody.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: It's funny that whatever that scandal was back then, unpaid
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: fucking parking tickets or some shit, that was going to
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: rock his whole life and embarrass the family. It's like nowadays,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: it's like you got to be caught with a child
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: on your fucking lap before you fucking... Admit it or
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: retire or anything like that.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: There's a meme that I just found the other day.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: Hold on a second.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: We had rotten.com. That was my generation's version. Oh, yeah.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember being like eight years old
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: and my cousins showing me a photo of a man
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: with his hard dick in a fish's mouth. I remember
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: he was so young and they would load so you
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: would just and you'd have to wait and they would
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: load and you'd go is that a fish? and then
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: it was just cock in his mouth hard cock in
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: this guy's mouth and you were like what? yeah and
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: then they'd show you another suicide guy who would just.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: Everywhere meanwhile that's normal now it's so normal yeah.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: There's like there's these like I think society might be
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: better with I don't know it's like freedom versus fucking
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: you know the good of society. But I think having
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: a couple of walls in place for me to see
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: a man with a cock and a fish would be
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: good for people.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a constant battle of, like, do
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: we have speed and limits? Do we not?
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's more extreme because it's shaping your mind. Like,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: you're getting access to information that formulates your worldview. And
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: that information is not necessary.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Like you maybe don't need to see a guy mouth
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: fuck a fish. Mouth fucking a fish is so mild today.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: That's what's nuts. Like today that's like we've seen so much.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: It's desensitized people to an extreme level. Like I don't
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: know how much of an effect it's had on how
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: people behave, but it has to have a giant. It
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: definitely has had an effect on how people communicate online
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: to each other. They're much shittier to each other than
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: they were back then.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they– maybe they realize that being online
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: is kind of– there's a distance, you know? So it
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like you're really being human.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: To that extent. Did you get that meme I sent you?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: I was reading about Bud Dwyer. I did stuff I
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: had never heard. He was facing 55 years.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: For what?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: A big scandal about some.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see the suicide rather than–
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: 55 hard.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: Years is also– The part that's crazy is that he
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: had this speech that no one knew he was going
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: to give, and it had gone on for 30 minutes.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: And halfway through it, the press was getting ready to leave.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: And he says, some of these are putting cameras away.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: I think you ought to stay because we're not finished yet.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: That's a great way to go.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: 30 minutes. Yeah. 30-minute speech. Well, I would have been
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: happy it was over. Sure.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, go back to that? I'm about to shoot myself.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: What does it say? Okay. Go down a little further. Down, down, down. Yeah,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: there we go. Dwyer alleged that his legal woes were
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: political persecution due to his refusal to grant a travel
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: voucher for Governor Dick Thurber's wife for a trip to Europe,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: alleging that Thurnber said that he would get Dwyer and
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: that Thurnber referred to him as the fat fuck. Dwyer
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: spoke out against the death penalty and expressed regret for
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: voting in favor while he was in the Pennsylvania Assembly.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: Speech lasted for nearly 30 minutes, and then he blew
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: his brains out. Whoa.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: He faced 55 years and a big fine, and his
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: co-conspirator got one year.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, someone threw him under the bus.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised there's not more suicides like that constantly. Like
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: a big fucking show. I guess that's what it is.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: like a mass shooting suicide thing is. But, I mean,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: just a suicide is like.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: This is the meme. Politician in 1996, I smoked pot once,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: but I didn't inhale. Politician in 2026, I fucked a child,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: but I didn't eat it.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: And that guy's fucking face.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: That guy's sweaty face.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: That's so funny. That's such a fucked up meme. Growing up,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: people said, I smoked, but I didn't inhale. As if
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: that was like this weird.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: And then Obama was like, I did coke. I'm like, whoa.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: Did he say that?
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Awesome. Yeah.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: Good for him.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: He definitely smoked weed. There's pictures of him smoking weed. Good.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: What were we just talking about just before that?
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Was it the rotten.com stuff?
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't know you guys were getting into the fish.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Just much more recently. Suicide.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: People doing a fun suicide for everyone to see.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's it. I can't remember. Big showcase. I lost
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: my thought, but I had a thought.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Are these stars that you have? Because they're shooting by.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they shoot by, yeah.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: Is this like a replica of the actual night sky? Nah,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: just a bunch of random. You guys, me and a
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: few comics last week went out to Big Bend. One
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: of the most fun things we've ever done. In Oregon?
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: No, sorry.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: No, Big Bend. Where is it?
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, Big Bend?
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Big Bend National Park. It's in South Texas. It's like
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: the darkest region of.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: oh that's the darkest.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Region South Texas one of them yeah down there so
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: it's a designated night place so all the lights go
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: off but we went out there yeah that's exactly where
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: we stayed at the Chisos Mountains.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Fuck look how beautiful that is it's.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Fucking insane how nice it is out there and there
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: was tarantulas walking around and shit cause it's mating season
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: they came over and were climbing on our shit and
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: stuff nah it's so cool it was fucking cool but
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: I looked so we sat out at night the sunset
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: would go down and we would watch the the The
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: stars come out. And we would sit there for seven
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: hours just staring, leaning back in our Tommy Bahama chairs.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: We did a little LSD. And then just looked at
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: the stars all night. It was one of the most
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: insane things I've ever done. But after that, I feel
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: like I'd never seen the sky truly until I went
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: It was unrecognizable. You couldn't pick out the Big Dipper
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: or anything like that because there were so many stars.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: It was a mess.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: Isn't that beautiful?
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: It was so cool. I would recommend everyone alive, head
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: out to Big Bend, look at the stars, do a
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: little acid if you feel like it. Really think about
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: fucking how insignificant you are. And my buddy Tim Butterly,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: who's an amazing comedian, he's in Austin from Philly. He's
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: one of the Philly boys. He brought his telescope with him.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: He has this huge, big telescope. And we were able
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: to see Saturn. And you could see Saturn's rings in
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: detail through the telescope. And it truly... It was crazy.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: On acid.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: On acid, looking at Saturn, and you're just going, what
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: the fuck? Yeah, and it's quiet. It's quiet out there.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Because people are camping all around you, but it's quiet. So, like,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: you'll hear someone from not far away just in his tent,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the night. Some guy
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: whacking off in the tent.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Whacking off in the tent is crazy. You could be
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: out there staring at the stars on acid, but you're like, no,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: one more night.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: I got to get in there. One more night.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thinking about a girl you dated in high school.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: But that's a cool place to go out there. It's
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: like eight hours from here.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: We are denied that image. Cities, as great as they are,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: they've fucked us. We have a disconnect with the universe now.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: You used to be able to, every night, you would
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: see that in the sky.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: That would be what I would do for entertainment.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: If that was.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: the sky in New Jersey, I would sit out my backyard.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: Of course. And I would stare at that shit all night.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: And at the beginning of the night, Saturn's there. And
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: then you think, I'll watch for another hour. And five
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: hours later, you're just staring as this thing rotates. And
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: you can see the Milky Way, which I'd never seen before. Yeah.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: There was like little clusters of shit that I'd never
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: seen before. And you're just.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: And the reason why you can't see it is all
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: just light pollution.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: There was a time when.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: We went out to the Big Island with my family
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: to the Keck Observatory. I've been there three times. This
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: is Hawaii? Yeah, but I've only seen it really once.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: And the Big Island, you drive. You actually drive through
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: the clouds. As we were driving up to the observatory,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: we were like, ah, fuck, it's cloudy. We're not going
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: to see shit. This sucks. Let's just keep going. But
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: then as you keep going up the mountain, you pop
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: through the clouds.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: And then you get to this observatory, and the sky
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: is magnificent. I caught it one night. where there was
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: no moon out, and that's what you want to do. Yeah,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: you want no moon, and the sky was just littered
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: with stars. Crazy. It seemed like we were on an
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: organic spaceship. That's what it seemed like. It did not
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: seem like we were on Earth. It seemed like it
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: was like a convertible spaceship and we're flying through the universe.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: It was incredible.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: And then you don't realize, then you go back to
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: your city stars and you're like, this is not enough.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: It's just not enough.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: A couple of dots.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: It's not enough.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: It's weird, that weird trade-off. But it's like that weird
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: trade-off has allowed us to do so much, but yet
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: it has disconnected us from just our place in the universe.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: It's very humbling. And I think that humbling thing is
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: very important to people, just to put it all into perspective.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: To be able to see the stars and go, wow. Wow,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: what the fuck, man? And that's just all you can see.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: This is just one puny little galaxy. Yeah. That's hundreds
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: of billions of galaxies in an infinite universe.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: It can get a little, thinking about it, can get
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: a little heavy. Oh, yeah. Because then you kind of
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: start to go, why do we care about anything?
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: Right. You know? Well, it's supposed to put it into
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: perspective when you're looking at little, tiny, insignificant things that
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: are freaking you out.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: You know, little weird things like, oh, fucking the guy
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: at work, he's going to fuck me. I'm not going
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: to get that promotion. And you're all just like, okay.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: This is a bigger picture. There is a way bigger
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: picture than Safeway where I work at or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Being upset that the next Netflix subscription has gone
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: up or whatever.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: You know, whatever it is, it's bothering you. These goddamn
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: liberals ruining the country. Sure. Exactly. Star.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: So we had a funny moment. We were all lying
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: out at the, um, just, decked out looking at the
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: stars enjoying it and we're quiet because it's late at
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: night it's two o'clock in the morning and there's tents
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: everywhere it's quiet as shit and Mike Rainey who's a
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: comedian he does Dad Meat podcast he was like I'm
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: going to bed guys I'm off to bed he gets
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: into his tent and it's quiet and I'm staring and
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: you're thinking about like all of the previous humans that
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: have looked at the same stars and the same thing
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: and in the middle just out of his tent you
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: just hear out of nowhere just.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: Wow wow wow wow it's fun to stay at the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: what and then you and then And I mean, that
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: echoed through the.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: And it just echoed through the fucking mountains. He had
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: gotten into bed and whatever way he opened up his phone,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: but there was no signal. One of the last things
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: on his timeline was the fucking YMCA song, which is
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: when you excuse yourself from a bunch of boys, look
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: at the stars and get into a tent. And then
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: the loudest, most embarrassing, gayest song of all time goes bellowing.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: There was people in other tents. We were crying, laughing
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: so hard. Because we were trying not to laugh, but
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: we could hear other people's tents start to laugh.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: Because we laughed for 25 minutes, crying. And we're like,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: what the fuck, Mike? And he never said anything. He
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: was too embarrassed.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: One of the most fun trips ever.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: That song, isn't it weird that that song became a
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: part of Trump's campaign? Yeah. How odd. I went to
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: the inauguration. One of the weird things about the inauguration
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: was that the village people were performing at one of
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: the after parties.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: What's left of the village people. Which one?
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Whatever ones are left.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: What was he wearing?
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: The thing is, like, you could have a new cop.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: You could have a new... Nobody knows who anybody is.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: There's some purists out there. There's a couple of... There's
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: a couple of people.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: Village people aficionados.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: You guys, I saw one. Yeah, I saw the village people.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: The real village people.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: The real ones.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: I saw them at that prime. Yeah.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: Back in the 70s when they were all alive.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: Had some fucking gay orgy thing going on, yeah.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: It became the anthem of... It's just a gay anthem,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: But it also became the anthem of the Trump administration.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: Like he would go out there and do a little dancing.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: Like what? Yeah, I don't know. Junk man. It's very weird, right?
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But see his Nicki Minaj's ass thing going on now?
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: So Nicki Minaj is like a big Trump girl.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Which is so odd.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: What do you think that's all about?
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: Needs to sell CDs or something. I don't know. Like
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. Why the fuck would Nicki Minaj? Also,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: I'd be embarrassed to bring her out. Then go, hey,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: look at this fucking, remember Nicki Minaj who used to
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: rap about having a fat ass 10 years ago? She
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: thinks I'm cool. That's like a bizarre fucking, it's like embarrassing.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: If you're a fan of his, he'll take you in.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: But he brought her out and he's like, Nicki Minaj
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: is great. She got a great ass.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: He said that?
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes, can't miss that ass. He goes, show him,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: show him, Nicki. And Nicki got up and did a little,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Nicki did a little fucking spin for the crowd.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Chup, chup, chup. Oh, my God.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: He might be going for a third term with Nicki's ass,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: fucking vice president.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: Well, there's people that think there's some sort of a loophole. Bro,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: I got to piss. Let's come back. Yeah, okay, great.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: Come back, come back, come back.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: And we're back. Where were we? YMCA. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj's ass. Let me see that. Can we see
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: the video?
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Pull up Nicki's ass there.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: Did you see the breakup letter he wrote to Bill Maher? No.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: Trump did? Trump found the letter?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: It's a breakup letter. It's like a girl who got dumped.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: It was like, fuck him, and he's always a loser,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. He's really crazy.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: But Bill Maher was like anti-Trump and then he fucking
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: had dinner with him.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: A couple times.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: Great guy.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: And had dinner with him recently and then went on
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: his show. And I guess he said some things about
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: how Trump is losing support in the polls or whatever
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: it was. And Trump wrote this long fucking screed, this
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: scroll that he put on Truth Social about Bill Maher's
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: a fucking loser. He was like he was drunk at
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: the White House. He needed a drink.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: He is a gift that does not stop giving, even
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: if you don't want the gift.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: There seems to be two things. This doesn't have her
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: in it, but this is definitely a quote he said
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: about her.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: I'm studying him, and then I made the mistake. I told,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: in fun, I said, I looked at his ass, and
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: I've never done that with a man before. It's true.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: Off the record, women, yes, men, no, okay? By the way,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: I looked at one hell of a beautiful ass before,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: Nicki Minaj.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: That is so crazy.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: That's hard to miss.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: That's stand-up.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: That's hard to miss.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: It's hard to miss. Is she showing her ass to everybody?
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: She's twerking or something over.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: There.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to get back to my story.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: I hope Nikki wasn't insulted, but.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: We love Nikki.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: We love Nikki's ass.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: So crazy.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that politicians used to be so straight-laced, like organized.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: He's staring at her ass.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: She's up there talking.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: In her custom fucking Louis Vuitton.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: The crazy thing is all politicians swear now.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: Do they?
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they swear. That was unheard of. You never heard
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: a president swear, but now they all swear. It's super common.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I like the idea of having
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: a politician who's fucking full of shit kind of straight
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: yeah full of shit doesn't talk like a real human
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: but you kind of like that kind of I think
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: the guy in charge should be a little bit fucking
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: reserved yeah I don't want them fucking writing letters to Bill.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: Maher pull up the letter to Bill Maher it's crazy
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: yeah wait till you read it it's so long.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: The only files released are the letters.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: I don't even think what Bill Maher said was that
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: bad I think The thing that got him was saying
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: that Trump lost all of his support with the Republican Party. Yeah.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: And then he pulls up.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: He's lost a lot.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: Not according to him. According to him, there's a CNN poll.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: This is like 98% of Republicans.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: That's part of his magic, though.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You can find a poll. Here it is.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: The polls are fake news.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this complete and total loser, all caps,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: Bill Maher. Let's talk about him. He got a low-rated
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: show on equally low-rated HBO. which was once long ago
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: a network of quality and excitement. But that's all gone.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: It's not hot, all caps, anymore, exclamation point. Marr's friend
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: and business associate, Chuck LaBella, was also a friend of mine,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: worked on the top hit show, The Apprentice, as a gopher.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: And because of the success of that show, number one
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: and top rated on many weeks, with the finale being
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: among the top shows of the year, he was automatically
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: and quickly brought up through the ranks of NBC as
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: along with everyone else associated with the historic happening in quotes.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know why happening is in quotes. The success
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: of The Apprentice was so great that everyone partook. It
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: built many careers, and that is a wonderful thing. Boy,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: this is wordy. Some people say it even built my
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: career because I became president. I would have won without it,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: exclamation point. In any event, Over the last few years,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: LaBella would call me nonstop and say, hello, be very
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: nice and tell me how much Bill Maher loves and
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: respects me and would constantly ask of me even before
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: I was president for any form of meeting with Maher.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: And would I do his show? When I became president,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: I agreed to meet after the first one. And the
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: last one, but never agreed to do his show, which
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: he wants me to do desperately, all caps. It won't happen,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: exclamation point. When I've watched the show, which isn't often,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: it always ends with dishonesty about me, at least, but
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: who cares? He doesn't think it was a good thing
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: to take the nuclear weapon away from Iran, which shows
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: you he's not very smart. If I allowed them to
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: obtain a nuclear weapon, the world would be a different
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: place right now. Exclamation point. Using fake polls, I like
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: how he capitalizes fake and polls. He also said, I
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: had my lowest rating so far. Even the Republican Party
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't like him, in quotes. But that's not true. I
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: have high ratings. And more importantly, he said that I'm
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: losing the support and approval of the Republican Party when,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: in fact, CNN just came out with a poll showing
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: them I'm at 98% and 99% support within the Republican Party.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: An all-time record high, capitalizes all, capitalizes the T in time,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: the R in record, and the H in high, which
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. Ronald Reagan was at 86%. CNN's Harry
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: Enten also said, I am the most influential president of
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: the last century. Is this after the Ellisons bought CNN? Okay.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: Also on HBO, which is confusing when he's talking shit,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: but I get it.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: He has a lot of time on his hands.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: CNN did another poll, the most popular person in the
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: history of the Republican Party, and I won that, too,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: with me being at 53%, Ronald Reagan being at 18%,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: and Abraham Lincoln being at 8%. This is crazy. These
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: CNN polls.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: People not exactly in love with me. So Bill Maher lied,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: but he lies about everything. And I believe he lied
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: to me when I asked him with all the applause
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: and laughter he gets after almost everything he says about
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: things that aren't funny or even good. What laughter machine
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: does he use? Laughter and machine have capital L and
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: a capital M. People can't think he's funny.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: He might be right about that, though.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: You think there's a laugh track?
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: It's not funny. I know that.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but people love it, and they're there live, and
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: they get enthusiastic.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: It's the rhythm.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a live taping?
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: Live taping a show. They have a person that does
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: this thing. It says applause, and they have a producer
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: with a headset on. It's like applaud, applaud, applaud. Okay,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: a laughter machine about things that aren't funny or even good.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: What laughter machine does he use? I don't know Bill.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: He didn't know me, and that was okay. I didn't
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: know Bill. He didn't know me, and that was okay either.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: Then Chuck LaBella and my friend Kid Rock... called me
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: incessantly about meeting with Bill Maher. My first response was, fellas,
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: this guy's a goofball. They said he wants to go
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: down to the White House, be with you and talk.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: He said you're smart, but you're not into the liberal platform.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: Will you start thinking about it? He invited himself to
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: the White House, exclamation point. We had our first meeting.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: Bill was very nervous. He asked for a drink. He
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: was very insecure. And he had a seriously bruised eye
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: and nose area as though somebody had just beaten him up.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't me. What? No sooner had we had
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: that first dinner at the White House, which is a
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: very seductive and beautiful place, especially now that I've fully
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: renovated and fixed it in the style which it deserves.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: Thank God.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: Bill wanted to come back. The gopher called me many times,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: multiple times, saying how much he loves me and that
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: he respects me more than anybody and he wants to
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: come back for a second meeting. After 10 calls from
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: Chuck LaBella, it seemed that these guys were serious and
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: wanted to learn more. Because their policies are so bad,
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous, exclamation point. Also, I wanted to tell Bill
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 2: that he's a major pothead, all caps. He's got to stop.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: It's very bad for his health.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: He's spiraling.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: This is the guy that's eating McDonald's all day.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: He's walking around the room saying this to someone typing
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: it out. Yes, 100%. And he's just looking around, and
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: another thing.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: He looked like hell this time. Bill was drunk and
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: had alcohol in his hand as he walked through the
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: White House. Stephen A. Smith and Kid Rock came along
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: with him. Overall, I thought it was a good meeting.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: It didn't last four hours. It lasted two hours, maybe less,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: and everybody was happy. We have the time stamps. I
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: learned nothing and felt it was a waste of time.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: After the first dinner, Bill Maher was friendly. I guess
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: everyone walked away pleased. He gave me a good first
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: show with a lot of laughing machine laughter. And laughing
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: machine and laughing and machine, the L and M are capitalized,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: which is a real term. But it is what it is.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: And then he reverted back to his former self and
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: his old ways. I understand that. He's doing his thing.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: I never took it personally. I'd always mock his low
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: ratings whenever I heard he's not a nice guy and
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: what he spouts isn't what he believes. He has to
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: cater to his base, which is mostly composed of losers.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: There's a capital L in losers and people who don't
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: like working. It's why for so long I didn't get
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: another call from Chuck LaBella and I didn't miss him
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: one bit. After the second dinner, Bill's show, in quotes,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: was far worse than the first. He went crazy, exclamation point.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: He's gutless because he enjoyed every minute. Also, I am
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: not building a swimming pool in the White House briefing
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: room and never had any intention of doing so. I
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: am thinking about moving the press and putting them in
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: a different location, but I will use that location for
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: very badly needed space. Bill also attacked our great Republican
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: candidates when he knows my endorsement record is 98% in
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: the House and 100% in the Senate. So how can
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: he make a false statement like this? These statistics are facts,
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: all caps, and he should speak about them, but he
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: won't because he's very unfair, exclamation point. Caroline Leavitt was great.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: This is so wordy on the show. But he started
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: with a biased, dumb sleazebag, all caps, asking questions. She
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: defended me and herself so well, but couldn't be comfortable
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: going against lie after lie. Capital L in lies. Importantly,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: Bill lied about all the illegal voters in the radical
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: controlled state. decrepit and devastated state of California. Just in
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: the last few days alone, they found 20,000 and the
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: number could easily go to over 1 million. There are
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: so many falsehoods Bill spewed, but I won't waste time
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: in fact checking all caps him. He isn't worth it. Bill.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: Don't call me anymore. It's useless. And tell Chuck LaBella
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: not to call so much and say how much you
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: love Trump, all caps, in quotes, and want to get
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: together because you're a hopeless guy who is just trying
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: to cater to your small group of fans, in quotes.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: You're also a coward who is afraid to tell the
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: truth about how well our country is running because of
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: your few fans, in quotes, and how badly the Democrats
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: have done. Almost destroying the USA. If I hadn't won
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: the election, it would be dead. All caps. Also, turn
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: your laughing machine off. It's a joke when they laugh uncontrollably,
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: even when you said nothing funny. And I'm going to
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: have to have the Republicans not cover you anymore because
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: they try to talk about you as a guy who
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: is transformative. You're not transformative. You're a loser. Capital L
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: and loser. I never watched your show much, but I
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: will never watch it again because it's nothing more than
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: fake news, all caps, that America and the world is
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: unfortunately subjected to. Thank you for your attention to this matter,
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: President Donald J. Trump. It has 4.64 thousand retruths.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: At the time. I'm sure more now.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: There's got to be just questions about how much time
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: he has. to write that. To do that. There's such
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: a minor thing and everyone just goes... But I think
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: the people around him probably just go, he'll be distracted
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: for a couple of hours.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: Let him go.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: Let him work on his little blog. Let him go
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: work on his little blog and we'll try to correct
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: the decisions he made earlier today.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: I think he gets very... Upset when people talk about
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: the polls.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 3: Do you think the person writing it knows what to
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 3: capitalize or.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: I think he has to go back capitalize.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: The Ellen lies No, you didn't get losers.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: Right capitalize lose yesterday and did I mention the laughter
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: track yet put fans in quotes?
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't the laugh machine. Yeah, I just don't
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: know why I mean, that's not something I would ever do.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: He balances his time.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: I Oddly.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, he must have a lot of time because
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: hasn't his net worth quadrupled in the last two years?
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely gone up with the coin, right? The
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: Trump coin. That was a big one.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: But I think across the board, his money's gone up.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: So he must have a lot of time to be
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: president and also become 5X' s billions.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I would imagine he has people doing that too, right?
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: And that's probably why some of it is.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: That's the best thing about America is that a lot
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: of countries would probably have it so that the most
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: powerful man couldn't grow that much in wealth.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it should be the case with the entire government.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: They shouldn't be able to profit off of it. His
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: net worth has increased an estimated $ 2. 7 billion to $ 4. 1
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: billion since winning the 2024 presidential election, bringing his total
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: net worth to roughly $ 6. 4 billion. That's a lie. It's
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: more than that.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: See....
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: See, I don't know what that is, how much of
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: it is stuff that I would disagree with, right? So
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: the meme coin's crazy. The meme coin.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: It was like a pump and dump, essentially, wasn't it?
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they all are. Well, Hunter Biden just did
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: one of those.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: They all do it. I mean, if you're going to
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: put out a fucking meme coin, that I mean, they're
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: almost all pumping dumps. And even if they're not like
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: whoever's putting money into it, they're pumping it up. And
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: with the idea that it's going to hit a peak
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: and they got to know when to bail.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: It's like everyone's doing that. It's a Ponzi scheme.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: And the president did it.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: And it's also I think it's a way to launder money.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: Is that better? So this is one of the things
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: that Hunter Biden was accused of with his artwork. And
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: so he was selling his artwork, in quotes, like Trump
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: would use it. His artwork was selling for like half
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: a million dollars for a painting. And you look at
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: the painting, like, what the fuck is that? Who the
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: fuck is paying half a million dollars for this? If
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: you wanted to give someone money, but you couldn't just
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: legally give them money, what you could do was say,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: why don't you Draw a picture.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: Draw me a piece of shit.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: And I'll buy that picture. And that's all you have
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: And it's the same thing like with a meme coin.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: So let's say we're going to do a column coin.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's launch it. Let's do it. We're
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: going to launch it right now.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: That's unofficial, by the way.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: Someone will probably do it. They'll probably do it.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: There's millions of those things. Well, you know I have
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: to go buy it now. Yeah.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: There you go. Buy a column coin. So if you
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: wanted to do that, the way those coins work is
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: there's an initial investment that goes in. So you get
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people to invest actual real money in
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: this coin, right? And then there's a bunch of people
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: who buy into the coin. So they buy the coin.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: So if you're a person that, like if I wanted
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: to bribe you, right? And I said, listen, what we're
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: going to do is we're going to start this meme coin.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: And my country is going to put in $ 300 million
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: into this meme coin. And this country is going to
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: put in X. And then, you know, once it gets
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: to a certain level– We'll pull out. You're going to
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: be worth billions. And then you say yes to that.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: And whether you're Hunter Biden or whether you're Trump or
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: a wide variety of people have done these things. The
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: Hawk Tua lady did it. Yeah.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: She had one. I think she she legitimately, I think,
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: was unsophisticated and didn't really know what was going on.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: The rug pulled her.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: But I think I don't know what I'm just being nice.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: I'm being nice by calling her a stupid idiot.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: Well, young kid.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: She's fucking 20 years old. I think so.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: I actually agree. I would have been completely retarded.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: She's not around anymore. She is around.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: Is she?
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: I thought she went back to working with fucking Wendy's
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: or whatever. She's on Instagram.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: Is she?
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's still out there. Is she still spitting on
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: that thing?
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: She don't spit like she used to? Now that she's rich?
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: Silk sheets and the whole deal.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: Nah, these bitches get rich and they stop spitting.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: They stop spitting. More sophisticated now.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: Big shit, yeah.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got caviar in your teeth. But the point is,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: you could put a bunch of money into a meme coin.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: That person gets the meme coins and then pulls that
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: money out. And then that's legal. You see what I'm saying?
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: And so that's a way to give someone money.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: It's all legal and we all just kind of tolerate it,
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: Well, it's weird. The whole meme coin market is weird.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: Like who's running out the door to put all their
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: life savings into the Melania coin? Yeah. It's an odd thing.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: The guys who know.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The guys who know. Somebody made money. Some people
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: made money. And clearly he made money. Like what does
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: it say Trump made his money from? Cryptocurrency. Nice. It's
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: fake money.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: Why can't you be president and earn $ 2 billion on
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: the side? A little passive income.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: Well, the weird thing is it's legal. This is the thing.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: So he's done nothing wrong in terms of the eye
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: of the law. This is the fact.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: He is a businessman. In the eye of society, we
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: kind of understand that this is a kind of a
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: conflict of interests, right?
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: For sure not. not something that looks good to the
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: average person, that this guy's making billions of dollars from
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: being in. The idea, what we would hope, this is
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 2: the thing, the goal that we would strive for, is
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: to have someone who's a president and what they really
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: want only is for the good of the American people.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: That person would be shot early on. Sorry. That's not
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: what this is.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: Sorry. They don't want that person to be making billions
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: while they're in office.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: Also, that person will run on honesty. They'll lose an election.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: And then next election, they'll lie through their fucking teeth
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: because they go, I lost it on honesty before. Now
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: I'm corrupt. You'll get voted out. If you turn around
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: and go, hey, everything sucks and it's going to suck
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: for a long time.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 3: There's interesting stuff that I just found out here.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: It says Trump making money from crypto is not automatically illegal,
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: even while president.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: But particular details could be unlawful. if they involve bribery
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: or prohibited benefits from foreign government.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: He lives in that space, though. Is that illegal?
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: Right. So it's now a concrete legal challenge. October 22nd, 2026,
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: federal civil lawsuit alleges that Trump unlawfully benefited from two
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: UAE-linked World Liberty financial transactions, a $ 500 million purchase, a
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: 49% stake, by an entity backed by UAE National Security
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: Advisor Sheikh Taqnoon bin Zayed Al Nahang. How do you
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: say that?
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: I couldn't even guess. Two billion dollar purchase of World
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: Liberty USD1 stable coin by an Abu Dhabi investment fund
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: chaired by Taqnoon. The transaction amount is not the same
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: as Trump's personal profit. Lawsuit alleges unconstitutional foreign investment Emoluments? Emoluments? Emoluments, yeah. Emoluments.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: And seeks discourse, disclosure rather, and return of allegedly unlawful profits.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 2: So what is, it's unlawful that the Abu Dhabi Sheikh
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: bought into it? Is that what's unlawful? I believe so.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 3: Foreign entity.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: Exactly. You know, I'm just trying to stick to stand-up.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: Including main financial conflict provision that means a financial interest
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: that would require an extraordinary executive branch official to step
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: aside does not automatically create the same statutory violation for
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: the president. That exemption is written into law. It isn't
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: unique to Trump, but it's on a blanket exemption from
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: anti-corruption law or the Constitution. Okay. Look, the whole fucking
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: crypto world is weird. They tried to get us to
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 2: do a crypto coin. They contacted us. JoeCoin? A JRE
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: coin or something. I'm like, fuck off. What are you
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: talking about? That's not real money. What are we doing here?
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: But it's a loophole. It's a loophole. And this is
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: the thing. If it's legal, if you can do it
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: and you're a businessman, you're a guy who's like, that's
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: your whole thing. Make as much money as possible. It's
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: clearly a big part of his whole thing is to
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: make a ton of money. And you can make the money.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I'm still doing great for the country.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: Just get a little for myself on the side. Yeah.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: I think we've had our fill of Trump, though. Trump
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: was a lot of fun, and now it's kind of just...
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: My whole time living here has been pretty much just
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: dominated by Trump, and I feel like it's like things
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: need to.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I think.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: Mix things up a little.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: Things like that letter to Bill Maher are not the best. Like,
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: that's not a good look.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: One of the worst things he's ever done. That's the
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: worst thing I've ever seen, you know? I got out
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: of it, though. I got sucked in, remember, with the Iran...
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: fucking war and invasion or whatever way you want to
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: call it and I was like listening to fucking just
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: too much like Frentes and Dave Smith all day and
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: I just had to kind of just turn my phone
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: off one day. Went fucking out into the woods and stuff.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: But then there's two arguments, right? If you turn your
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: phone off and don't pay attention then all the craziness
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: just keeps going on and your life eventually gets affected
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: by it because they start bombing us. Sure. Like, you know,
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: that maybe it's better to pay attention than to just
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: keep your eye on whatever the fuck is boiling in DC.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: When does bombs... dropping. I'll fucking put on a little
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: frantes and find out what's going on.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people are worried that after the midterms,
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 2: so when the midterms are over, that that's when they're
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: going to start doing more shit in Iran.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: But this isn't done yet.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: Have I drank all that on you?
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, bro. Um, but there's a lot of
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: people that believe that it's all going to start popping
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: off again in Iran. Cause it's like, it's not resolved. No.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, they have to have Yeah, real blunder, real disaster.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: Not good.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: It doesn't look good. It's actually kind of pathetic, actually, honestly,
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: on a world scale. It doesn't look good for America
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: to not be able to just wipe out fucking country.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not just that. It just doesn't seem like
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: it was something that was... Every other president was the
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: attempt to talk them into doing this. Yeah. They tried
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: to talk Obama into doing it. They tried to talk
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: Biden into doing it. Nobody did it. Who's that? Whoever
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: wants us to bomb Iran that might live in Israel.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: Not saying anything. It could be them. It could have
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: been the Swedes. It could be anyone.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: Well, it could have been the Russians. Yeah. That's the
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: fun one. They always like to blame everything on the Russians. Yeah. Yeah. So,
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: you know, look, the thing that disappoints everybody who supported
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: Trump before he got into office was one of his
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: big things that everybody agreed with was no more war. Yeah. Like, please,
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: that sounds great. No more war.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 3: It'll be great.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: Because we keep thinking, like, why are we involved in
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: these unnecessary wars? Because we always assume there's so much
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: money involved in politics because the military industrial complex has
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: a huge amount of cash. They influence politicians. They influence policy.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: They need more wars so they could sell more weapons.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so this is the feeling of exhaustion where
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: it's like, I'm going to turn this off. I'm going
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: to go to Alaska. I'm going to see some fucking bears.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a weekend of shows in Anchorage, and I'm
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: hoping to go to Katmai National Park. Do you know it?
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: Where the bears catch the salmon.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: Coming out of the fucking... Oh, yeah.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going in September, so it's a little different, but.
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: Is it past the salmon run by then?
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: It's over. So they go to a different section. They're
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: not jumping out and they're catching them out, but they
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: still catch the salmon at a different section. So I'm
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: hoping to go out there and camp overnight. But you
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: camp in like a fenced off electric uh, gate type
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: of thing. But you camp out there. Have you ever
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: been over there to do any of that?
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: I've been to Anchorage. Ari and I went over there
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 2: and we went salmon fishing.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 2: We went salmon. We, we had a two day thing. Yeah.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: That's nuts.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: So I got a, I got a trip. I'm doing
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: a bunch of shows, uh, columnterrell.com for all my tickets. Oh,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: check out the special, by the way. Sorry, just to interrupt.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: New special right now on YouTube called Bells and Whistles.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: Please check it out. Leave a comment if you'd like. Anyway,
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: back to the grizzly bears. Yeah. This is what I'm
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: going to go do and take photos of bears. Um,
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: But it's like, there's a limited amount of spaces. So
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: they have like cabins, but the cabins are like $ 700
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: a night or something. Or you can sit in a
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: tent with the beers for $ 12 a night. And I'll go,
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: I'll do that.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the more authentic experience. You don't want to
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: be behind a door.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: But these beers are so well fed that they've no
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: interest in you.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: I just watched a thing about the lions in fucking,
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: is it Botswana? Do you know the guy on Instagram,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: Grizzly Guy or Grizzly? grizzly guy and he has this
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: he does these shows I think they're called Endless Venture
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: and he goes all over the world he just did
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: a thing in the tundra up in fucking Alaska where
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: it was like 24 hours sunlight and they went looking
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: for grizzly bears or polar bears real fascinating stuff but
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: they went on a trip to Botswana and the lions
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: there are so well fed that the lions won't attack
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: you as a human so they had this cool yeah
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: this guy's fucking awesome I love this fella wow he's
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: just hanging out with lions and they'll so they'll sit
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: down and they get into a decent like non-threatening position
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: and they put out like a call like an injured
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: something and then this pack of lions and you see
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: the lions just slowly spread out and they all follow
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: the main fucking leader and then he gets right up
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: to them and then they see them and they stare
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: at each other and everyone's quiet and they stare for
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: like five minutes and then the lion goes and just
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: sort of plops down and they're just sitting there surrounded
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: by a pride of fucking lions in the middle of
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: uh This delta, whatever it's called, the Oka-something delta, where, like,
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: it's one of the wildest. And they sleep at night,
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: they camp, and they have to keep the fire on
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: all night so that elephants don't trample them in the thing. So, like,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: someone's job is to wake up every hour to keep
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: the elephants away. That's what I want to do.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: And you just hear them in the middle of the night.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And you could probably feel them walking around.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: That's a mountain lion.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 3: I was just showing you. I got one.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: This is the guy.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so he does a bunch of
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: stuff like this. Yeah. I think he was on my
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: friend Cam Haynes' show.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: He's cool. I'd love to fucking do something with him someday.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: This is like they went.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: Out to- Well, I'll bet he'll reach out. You can
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: go do something.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: Please reach out and bring me to somewhere really scary.
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: That's really what you like to do, huh?
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: That's all I want to do.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why. I'm just obsessed with it
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: right now. Getting out there and seeing animals.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: It's very exciting.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I got into it through birds. I
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: got into birds, birding.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 2: Birding?
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: Birding is the most fun thing.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: So you're one of those guys that buys the binoculars
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: and stares at the trees? Yeah.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: We always make fun of those guys. I'm really bad
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: at it. I get it too. It's kind of a
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: little gay.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: Well, there's two groups of guys who buy high-end binoculars. Yeah.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: And the biggest market is actually birders. The second biggest
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: market is hunters.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a lot of kind of
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: similarities between, I guess, just tracking a bird to shoot
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: it with a camera and tracking an animal to shoot
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: it with a gun. There's a lot of knowledge you
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: have to learn, the calls, the wind directions and things
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: like that. I don't think that's as true with birds,
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 1: but certainly if you want to take a photo of
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: an animal, you've got to do the same thing.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: Well, just seeing them in their natural habitat is very exciting,
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: especially it's a rare bird.
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: The thing about the birds are everywhere. That's why I
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: think most people would rather be into more mammals running
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: around but just none around. But the birds are in
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 1: your fucking garden. And it's cool to look out and go,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 1: I recognize that bird or I recognize a call.
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: My friend Tommy has this bird feeder and it's hooked
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 2: up to a camera that has AI.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: And so the AI camera takes a photo of the
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: birds when they show up and then tells him, sends
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: it to his phone, tells him what kind of bird
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: it is. I got him. You got that? Yeah, of course.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: You kidding me?
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: Which ones he got?
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: The problem is you get too many alerts, though, because
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: it's a bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: And where do you have your camera set up? In
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 2: New York City?
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in New Jersey.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: At my in-laws' house, because they live out closer to
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: the woods. I set it up there, and I remember, like,
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing one day, like, accidentally a hummingbird landed
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: on the water, because a hummingbird shouldn't have been there,
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: but I got it, and I was able to write
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: it on my list of all the birds that I've seen.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, you make a list.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little fucking retarded, you know. Wow. But
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: from there, I just wanted to take an interest in
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: what I'm hearing. When I'm sitting around reading a book
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Tweet, tweet, tweet. What is that, and why
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: is that, and what are they saying? And then once
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: you start to do that, I started getting more into animals,
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: and now I'm just hiking and camping and, One of.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 2: The things you'll see when you go to Alaska is eagles.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: They're like pigeons up there. It's crazy. They're everywhere. Yeah.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: The eagles are fucking cool. We saw some eagles in
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: Montana when we were fishing. Just big fucking guys.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: Wild.
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just fly around. I got these amazing
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: videos of fucking these huge birds flying around.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: Just snatching fish right out of the water and flying
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 2: off of them.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like the most enjoyable thing you can ever
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: do is witness that.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 2: That's so interesting that you're so into nature.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: That's all I want to do is just kind of
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: go turn my phone off and go fucking hiking. And
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: maybe if I'm lucky, ever see a mountain lion somehow.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: I reckon if you see a mountain lion, it might
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: be too late.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: I've seen a few.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: You've seen them? Yeah. In California?
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: I saw one of them in California. It was in
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: Santa Barbara, actually. We were in Montecito. And we were
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: driving down the street. And I saw this thing running
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: across the road. I was like, oh, is that a coyote?
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: And I saw the tail. See that wavy tail? I'm like, oh, shit,
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 2: that's a cat. And you realize, oh, my God, it's
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 2: a mountain lion. We just saw a mountain lion run
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 2: across the street in a really nice residential community. Like,
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: Montecito is gorgeous. Yeah. Like, beautiful old homes and mountain lions.
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 1: I wonder how close they get. Because I was thinking
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: about when we were camping. Like, there's definitely mountain lions
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: in that region of Big Bend. Generally, they avoid people.
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 1: But I wonder how close. Like, at night when we're seeing, like, truly...
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: I know they avoid them, but is it by miles?
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: No, they don't need to be miles away from you.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't catch them.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: They know where you are. We heard some noises of
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 1: something growling out there. When we were watching the sunset,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: you could hear some animal. It could have been anything.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: But it's late at night, and then you just hear
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 1: kind of a... And you're like, what was that? What
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: could have that been?
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a crazy sound that they make, mountain lions.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: It's really weird. See if you can find mountain lion...
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: It's very strange.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: Very strange sound.
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: Foxes make a weird noise, too.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: There's an animal. I just saw a clip. I can't
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: remember now, but I just saw a clip of an
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: animal where when they let off a noise at night,
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: it sounds like a man in pain screaming. I just
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: saw this like two days ago. And it's literally like...
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: And so it's like....
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: That's a mountain lion.
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: It's dark out. You hear that? You're like, oh, my God,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: we're going to die. Yeah. And you're lost.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 2: You can't figure out how to read the map. You're
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: going in circles for days.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 1: Your phone died.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: You're almost out of water.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: You promised your wife.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: It's right up here. I swear.
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how could you sleep?
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been hunting?
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that. I'm planning a hunting trip
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: to Ireland. My cousin, he's like a YouTuber now, and
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: he posts these videos. Cachal Rowan, if you can give
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: him some support. But he hunts deer.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: Say that in a way that people are going to
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 2: be able to write it down.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 1: Cachal, which is spelled C-A-T-H-A-L.
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: Cachal.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: Cachal, but the T is silent.
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: Cachal Rowan, R-O-W-A-N. So he's got a YouTube channel now
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: and we're watching it, but he goes out hunting. But
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: he goes out in the morning and he'll have like
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: a big tripod and he fucking sets it up and
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: he's killing these deer. There he is. You're welcome, you
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: little prick.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: He's only got 725 followers right now. Let's see how
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: many he gets.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: That'd be so funny now. He has a million by
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and I have nothing. It'd be so funny. But
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: we're going to go hunting next year. So he knows
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: all his shit about the deer. And there he is
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 1: with my uncle out there.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't know there was a lot of deer hunting.
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of deer hunting. It's not elk. I
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they have them.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: But you know Ireland had this thing called the Irish elk. Oh, yeah.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: It's the biggest.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: Deer species ever. They were huge. Yeah. Do you know
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: they found their antlers accidentally? Like people pulled them up
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: when they were fishing? No, I didn't know that. Like
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: hooked them, like fossilized.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: They're like bigger than you could ever imagine.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 2: Bigger than any moose. Insane. Yeah, it was a huge,
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: huge animal.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting, because a lot of Irish history, I
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: guess like everyone, we just don't really know what's going on.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: Like there's a certain timeline where everything is like.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: That's what it looks like. That's what Irish elks go.
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's found in a log.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: It's like the biggest kind of deer species animal ever,
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was enormous. Look at that.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: But we had bears too. That's crazy. We had bears
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: that we killed out before they started documenting anything because
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 1: they find these bear bones that have been carved up
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 1: and stuff. So whatever humans were living. in Ireland killed
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 1: these guys off. Maybe naturally from the climate change or whatever.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: Probably killing them.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: We were co-living together at the same time. And now
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: they're gone. We used to have wolves. I think they
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: reintroduced wolves. We killed them off and then they brought
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: them back.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: What a good idea. Bring them back.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: I guess if there's regions where it's not going to
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: really be too much farmland, I guess. A couple of
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: wolves are kind of cool.
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: They're a problem.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: They breed, and then they're smart, and they figure out
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: what to do. Colorado, they had the most retarded decision.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 2: They brought wolves, and they reintroduced them right outside of Aspen. Okay.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: And they dropped them off. Some of them, they dropped
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: off on my friend's ranch. And so this ranch is...
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: He doesn't run any livestock, but he's connected to other
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: ranches that run livestock. And so these... Wolves are now
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: killing all these cows and calves.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: That's why we killed them off, I think, in the
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: first place, wasn't it?
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that they were necessarily killing us.
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 2: They were killing us, too.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: The wolves were taking us, too.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: Do you know the story from World War I? It's
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: a great story.
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: Do not.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: The Germans and the Russians had a ceasefire because so
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 2: many of them were getting killed by wolves. They had
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: a ceasefire where they decided, we're going to kill the wolves,
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: then we'll go back to killing each other.
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: Is that true?
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: This is like when they played soccer on Christmas Eve.
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 2: That's a different one. I think that was, wasn't that
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: the British and the Germans?
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the British. Apparently on Christmas Day, they stopped and
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: had a little kick about, and then they went back
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: to shooting each other after that. I don't know. I
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: think that's a myth.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 2: No, it's not a myth. It's real.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: No, the soccer one I'm saying.
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a myth. Oh, no? No, soccer
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 2: one's real.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: They stopped and had a little kick around Christmas.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 2: Why not? And then apparently the generals and everyone got
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 2: very angry at them. Like, these are your enemy. Go
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: back to killing them. But, I mean, you don't know
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 2: these fucking people.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: How could you go back to killing someone after they
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: just fucking scored a great goal or did something impressive?
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: Or just shook your hand and gave you a cigarette.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: They were hanging out together. They decided to have a
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: ceasefire and hang out together.
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: Shirts for skins, yeah.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 4: Fuck, man.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 1: And there was a referee and stuff.
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 3: This is the New York Times Associated Press report of it.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I asked for the AI stuff. It
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 3: said it's a potential myth.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. It's real. The Meat Eater did a
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: whole piece on it where I brought up the story
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: because someone, I forget what historian, told me about the story.
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: And I was like, is that real? And then I
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: brought it up and then Meat Eater did a whole
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: story on it. The story is widely syndicated in contemporary newspapers,
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: mainstream historians, and archival checks note a lack of official
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: military orders, command logs, cooperating. Go to the Meat Eater
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: story about it because the Meat Eater story was pretty
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: well documented. You see it above there. There's a link.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: Those guys are real.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: See where it says Meat Eater? Click on that.
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: Was there a ceasefire during World War I to hunt wolves?
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: So here it goes in there. Joe Rogan. Multiple New
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: York newspapers in 1917 reported the story, including the El
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 2: Paso Herald, Oklahoma City Times, and New York Times. Since then,
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 2: it's become a favorite bit of barroom banter among amateur
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: historians like the powerful Joe Rogan. 1917, a dispatch from
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 2: Berlin noted large packs of wolves moving into populated areas
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: of the German Empire from the forests of Lithuania and Volhynia.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: Locals hypothesized the war effort displaced the wolves, so the
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: canines started seeking out new hunting grounds. Hungry wolves infiltrated
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: rural villages, attacking calves, sheep, goats, and in two cases, children.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: They also showed up at the front lines, feeding on
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 2: the fallen and sometimes taking advantage of incapacitated fighters. So
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: this is what happened.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: So they would have some sort of a way to
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 1: send someone over with a white fucking.
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it says, as a last resort, the two adversaries,
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 2: with the consent of their commanders, entered into negotiations for
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: an armistice and joined forces to overcome the wolf plague. Wow.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: Did it say how many?
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: And this is according to a 1917 New York Times article.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: But all to no avail. The wolves, nowhere to be found,
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 2: quite so large and powerful as in Russia, were desperate
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 2: in their hunger regardless of danger. So a point... Apparently,
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: one of the things that had happened was they'd sent
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: guys on patrol and they wouldn't find them. They wouldn't
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: come back. And then they would go look for them.
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 2: They'd find like a foot in a boot where their
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 2: leg had been severed off and eaten. And they realized like,
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: oh my God, they're getting hunted by wolves. Because if
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 2: you're a small group of people, like two guys, and
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 2: you go out and there's 50 wolves, like a large pack,
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 2: they will eat you. I have a friend of mine
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 2: who was elk hunting and he shot an elk. And
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: they didn't realize that they shot an elk essentially where
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: the wolves had their dent. And the wolves surrounded them.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: And they started running in at them.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: Doing their thing where they kind of.
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 2: They killed three of them. He killed two of them
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 2: with a bow. And the guy he was with killed
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: one of them with a rifle. And then they backed off.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 2: The wolves took off. They realized that something was wrong.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they realized.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: They didn't know.
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 1: This ain't no bison.
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They also realized like something's happening where arrows are
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: flying at them and killing them. And they watched these
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 2: guys get killed. And they eventually took off.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: They're super smart.
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 2: But he said we were surrounded. My friend John Dudley,
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 2: he talked about it on the podcast. He's got the
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 2: wolf skulls in his house. Yeah.
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: Do you ever see a video of a bison gets
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: singled out, surrounded by the wolves, and they just... Grab
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: the legs. He's just spinning and spinning for five, eight hours.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: I've seen it behind the scenes with the documentary, with
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 1: the whole people recording it. They're all crying because they're
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 1: literally watching an animal fight for eight hours while these
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: packs just bite and bite and bite.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: But there's a reason why all those old, nursery rhymes,
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: like the big bad wolf. Yeah. The kids worrying about
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: the big bad wolf dressed up like grandma. That was real.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 2: You had to worry. If you sent your children home
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: through the woods, they could get eaten by wolves. That
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: was real.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like a metaphor for pedophiles or something.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that too, I'm sure.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe I misinterpreted the art.
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: That's probably part of it as well, but a real
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: problem back then was wolves killing people.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question about the bows? What's
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: the furthest... you've got an animal from when you're hunting.
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 2: With a bow and arrow? Yeah. 80 yards.
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 1: 80 yards. So you'll go out, you'll have your, and
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: this will tell you kind of a distance of something.
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 2: I have a range finder. So I have a range
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: finder and I lock in on the animal with the
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: range finder. It gives you a yardage. And then my
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: bow is specifically calibrated with a sight that moves up the,
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 2: there's a reticle on the site that moves up and down.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 2: depending on where the distance is. So, like, say if
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 2: it's 60 yards. I dial to 60 yards, and my
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: sight moves to a very specific position where my pin,
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: that's where the arrow will drop. If I shoot straight
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 2: and I don't move during the shot, that's where the
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 2: arrow will be roughly at 60 yards.
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's always the same release. It's just the
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: dial will tell you to go a little higher.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 2: It's very complicated. You want to go down a rabbit hole...
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: Of like obsession. Bow hunting is the greatest rabbit hole
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: of obsession I've ever gone down. Oh, I bet you would.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: I could. Yeah. Want to see one? Yeah.
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 2: When you do it, it is one of the most
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 2: difficult things I've ever done in my life.
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the first kill you got?
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: It's right there. That's you? Yeah. That's a mule deer
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: that I shot in Montana with Steve Rinella.
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: And how far was that?
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: That was a rifle. So that was 250 yards, I
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 2: think it was. Um, but when you're doing it, um,
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 2: you know, you're looking through a scope and you're shooting
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 2: with a rifle. That's, that's hard to do, but a
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 2: bow is exponentially harder. It's way harder. It's way harder.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: You gotta get close. Like the 80 yard shot that
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: I had, the only reason why I would have ever
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: taken that shot. That's, that's an elk that I shot.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: That was 54 yards.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: And you don't have any support on that thing. You're
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: holding it.
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: I'm holding it. Yeah.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because my cousin, he brings out like a kind
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: of a big tripod that gets the shot for the gun.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: That's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 1: But you don't do that with the bow.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 2: No. But I would do that with a rifle. It
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 2: makes the rifle more accurate. It's smart. Especially if you're
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: shooting it at a distance.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: He has a silencer on too, which weighs a ton.
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, there's silencers on that. It's... They're not that heavy.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's a little bit of a bitch about it.
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 2: It's not that heavy. And it's not really a silencer.
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 2: It's a suppressor. So it really just takes some of
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: the sound out. You can still hear it.
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: So if you miss, you don't scare everything off?
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: No, so it doesn't blow your eardrums out. Because if
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 2: you have a rifle, like one of my rifles, it's
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 2: got what's called a muzzle brake. And a muzzle brake
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: is at the front of the rifle. There's holes in
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: the barrel that allow the gases to disperse. So what
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 2: that does is it lessens the recoil. So there's less
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 2: of a kick when the gun goes off. So a
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 2: very powerful hunting rifle, like if you're shooting a moose
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 2: or something like that, you need a powerful rifle. If
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: you want to kill Charlie Kirk, you've got a powerful rifle.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: And on the impact, there's a lot of movement, right?
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: And if you flinch and if you're worried about that recall,
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: you'll be less accurate. So there's a thing called a
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: muzzle brake. The problem with a muzzle brake is it
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: makes the rifle shot way louder. And I have two
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: friends that have lost hearing because they were close to
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 2: a rifle when it went off with the muzzle brake
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: on it, and they blew their eardrums out. A buddy
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: of mine, he has fucking hearing aids. Really?
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 2: But the point is that, like, a tripod or shooting
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 2: sticks– They sit down, allows you to have a much better,
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 2: like most guys when they're shooting at real distance, so
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: there's things, so there's like, say like 50 yards to
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 2: 100 yards, a lot of guys are comfortable shooting offhand.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 2: That means just holding the rifle, wrapping the rifle sling
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: around your arm so you're tight, pushing it to your chest,
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: and then making sure you're not moving, and boom. And
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 2: you could, up to like 100 yards, you could probably
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: get away with that. But if it's anything more than that,
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: you really want to be stabilized. So you want to
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: be on a tripod or shooting sticks. When it's further
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 2: than like 300 yards, most guys want to be prone.
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 2: So they want to be laying down. So what they'll
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 2: do is they'll lay their pack down and they rest
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 2: the rifle on their pack and they want their whole
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 2: body to be rested on the ground so there's no movement.
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 2: And so they're looking through that and all they're moving
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 2: is their finger. So everything is stable and all they're
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 2: doing is slowly squeezing. So their rifle is resting on
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 2: that pack. So there's nothing that could possibly move it. Yeah,
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 2: it seems... So with a bow, you don't have any
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of fun, or at least
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: a very exciting thing.
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 2: It's very exciting.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: Especially if you can, I don't know, if you're, especially
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: if it's like a thing that's needed for the ecosystem
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 1: to continue, the ecology of a thing.
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: It certainly is kind of.
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the excuse we're going to use, so I
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: can kill an animal. I'm not going to pretend I'm helping.
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, if you don't kill them, they're
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 2: going to get killed. No animals live forever and become angels.
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 2: What happens is they get killed by wolves. And usually
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 2: they get killed in a horrible way.
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: But in Ireland, we don't have the fucking wolves.
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 2: Or they freeze to death or they starve to death.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 2: They run their teeth down and they can't process food anymore. Yeah.
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 2: And you see them and they're scrawny and all fucked up. Yeah.
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 2: And then something gets them. It's usually winter. More animals
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: die from winter than anything, especially in the mountains. They'll
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 2: have strong winter die-offs. Like in Utah, where I was
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 2: at two years ago, they lost something like 70% of
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: their population of mule deer from the winter. Winter die off.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: 70% of them froze to death.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 1: So then the following year, they've got less tags to
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: get out.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly. And so in those kind of situations,
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't really need humans to take care
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 2: of the population. The idea is that humans manage the
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 2: population in a couple of ways. One, you do keep
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 2: the population in check. If it's an area where there's
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 2: not a lot of predators, then it's kind of important
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 2: that humans do it because otherwise they can get disease
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: and there's too many of them, starvation, overpopulation. But the
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: other thing is that the money that goes into tags
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: and also sporting goods equipment. So when you're buying a tent,
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 2: if you're buying a rifle, if you're buying a bow,
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 2: a certain percentage of that money goes into wildlife conservation.
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: So that REI or one of these kind of places,
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: they have to kind of.
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of the law. I think it's called
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 2: something Pittman, Pittman Roberts Act. And look that up. So
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 2: what that is, I think it's, I forget what the
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 2: percentage is, but that percentage here, Pittman-Robertson Wildlife Restoration Act,
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 2: that was in 1937. U.S. federal law places an excise
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 2: tax on the sale of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: to fund state-level wildlife conservation, habitat restoration, and hunter safety programs.
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 2: So it's 11% federal excise tax on sporting firearms, ammunition,
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 2: and archery equipment And a 10% tax on handguns. And
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: all that goes to conservation. So that pays for game wardens.
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 2: It pays for wildlife biologists. It pays to make sure
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 2: that the populations are healthy. They do studies on them.
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 2: Things like collaring wolves and finding out what their migration
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 2: patterns are, following deer migration patterns. It's all so that
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 2: we keep the populations healthy. It's like the number one
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 2: contributor in this country to wildlife conservation is hunters.
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the people that don't hunt and don't eat
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: meat or think it's cruel, they would think that there's
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 2: no way someone who hunts loves animals. There's no way
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 2: you could.
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Once you understand the role of it all,
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 1: I think it makes it. And also, I think a
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: lot of hunters who are outside, they're more in tune.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: I think they're more environmentalist probably than most people who
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: never leave.
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 2: Unquestionably.
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 1: Because they have an understanding of leave no trace, things
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 2: Unquestionably.
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 1: The importance of it. Keeping these hunting... Places that they hunt, keeping.
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 2: Them wild, keeping them like that. Keeping them pure. And
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 2: it's like one of the most disappointing things when you
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: go hunting and you find like a water bottle or
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 2: a beer can.
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 2: You find like a bunch of beer cans.
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 1: A used condom.
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 2: At least they're very responsible. But you find like places where.
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 1: I guess not many people are wrapping up in the
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 1: middle of the woods, are.
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 2: They? When you go out to these places, you know,
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 2: you want them to be. Look, footprints are one thing.
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: That should be it. Footprints, maybe like a fire pit
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 2: that you put out. But that should be it. You
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be leaving your shit behind.
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 3: It makes a lot of money every year, but I
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 3: just noticed this at the end.
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. So it says, regular generates between $ 800 million and $ 1. 2
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 2: billion annually. Non-hunter contribution, even though it was originally pushed
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 2: by sportsmen, data now shows that roughly 73% to 74%
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 2: of the revenue actually generated by non-hunters purchasing firearms and
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 2: ammunition for recreational shooting, home defense, or collecting. That's just
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 2: because it's 10% goes to handguns and 11% with rifles.
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 2: It's just because more people have those than go hunting.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 2: But that's also no one's like fighting against that. It's
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 2: a good use of tax money. It's very important because
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 2: if you don't have that, then you just have these
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 2: wild open lands and you don't have people patrolling them.
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 2: to make sure people aren't poaching.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 2: Because that's a real problem. Poaching is a giant problem.
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 2: It's a giant problem in this country where people go
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 2: on to land that's not theirs. They go on to
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 2: private land or public land where they don't have a
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 2: tag and they hunt and, you know.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: America's so big, it's like fucking impossible. But the lands
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: that you have here are probably the best thing about
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: this country. The national parks.
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 2: It's pretty sick.
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 1: The systems that you have. I never learned about it
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 1: until I moved here.
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 1: That wasn't something you thought about until you moved here.
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: You just think of America like it's all kind of
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 1: just fast food and fatties in their car. That's kind
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 1: of it. Just some fat dipshit from fucking Tennessee eating Wendy's.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 1: And then you get here and then you hear about
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 1: these national parks and you're like, what? And then you
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 1: go to them and you're like, what the fuck?
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 2: I know, it's nuts.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: First time I'm going to Zion, it was just fucking crazy.
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 2: Zion's crazy. Crazy. All of Utah is nuts.
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 1: Utah's gorgeous. I could move there pretty soon. Yeah. I'm
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 1: a Mormon, have 16 wives.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? Yeah. That's the American dream I want.
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Utah is fucking beautiful.
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 1: Utah is beautiful.
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the mountains of Utah is one of my favorite
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 2: places to go. That's the one place that I saw
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 2: a real mountain lion. I was with my friend Colton
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 2: a few years back, and we were driving. He's a
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 2: hunting guy that I go with every year. And we
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 2: were driving back. So what we do is you drive
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 2: into the mountains, you park, and then you're walking 8,
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 2: 10 miles a day. You're going through the mountains. You
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 2: have to be in serious shape. I get in shape.
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 2: Like I work out specifically for these trips.
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 1: Because how much, what's the weight on the back?
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 2: It's not the back. It's just the real, carrying them
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 2: out is a motherfucker, dude.
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 2: Because then you got like, we carried that elk out
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 2: and I got a bunch of guys to help me.
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 2: We didn't even have to go very far. We only
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 2: went a few hundred yards, but it was like this,
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 2: like an insane angle with loose dirt. And I had
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 2: a quarter on my back, a rear hind quarter, which
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 2: is like a hundred pounds. Wow. And you're going straight uphill.
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you like tying that onto a thing?
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're tying it onto a pack.
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 1: Like a sled type of thing?
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 2: I have a pack. Yeah. And my pack is specifically got,
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 2: it's called XO Mountain Gear.
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: You must, when that's all done, because it's the same
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 1: feeling as when you go to the gym and you're
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: finished and you feel fucking great or whatever. When you've
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 1: done hunting, got the deer back, you must feel like,
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: that's good.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 1: And then your phone goes, bleep, bleep, did you hear
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 1: about this? And you go, no, I don't want to
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 1: know about it.
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 2: I'm killing fucking deer. There's no service. But when you're
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 2: doing that and you eat it, your connection to that
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 2: food is so different. Yeah. I made an elk steak
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 2: or an elk roast, rather, yesterday. And I was eating it.
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 2: And I was eating it. I was like, I was there.
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 2: I remember when this happened. I remember the arrow flying.
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 2: I remember the sound when it hit the rib cage.
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 2: I remember quartering it up and carrying it out. I
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 2: remember all the work. I remember all the hours I
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 2: practiced shooting my bow. Wow. You have to practice every day.
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 1: Most people get that kind of feel, like a little
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 1: bit of that feeling from fucking growing like herbs in
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 1: their yard. And then you feel great when you put
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 1: a little parsley on something. So if you were to
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 1: really learn how to bow and track it and learn
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: to fucking, how to follow them, where they find them,
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably rewarding. More rewarding than going to
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 1: fucking Burger King. It's the problem is people think... And
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 1: I love animals and I think I'm an environmentalist. But
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: I think people associate hunting with this kind of an
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 1: anti-environment thing. Whereas the guy eating a Burger King is
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 1: probably just as like, that's maybe arguably you could say
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: that's like less ethical. The way we like farm cows
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 1: versus actually catching a fucking.
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 2: Well, especially industrial agriculture. When they do industrial farming of
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 2: animals is wild. That should be illegal. They should have
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 2: never allowed that to happen in the first place when
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 2: they have these giant warehouses stuffed with pigs.
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 1: And now we're relying on it, so you can't get it.
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 1: Now cities need it. I could be probably persuaded. I
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 1: could have somewhere in there with the right argument, I
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: could probably be persuaded to kind of like get away
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 1: from like unethically mass-sourced food. I could be convinced to
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 1: go like vegan, I guess, but probably not.
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 2: It's not that good for you. It's very difficult to
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 2: do it right. to be vegan and to get all
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 2: the essential amino acids and B12 and you have to
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 2: supplement with a lot of things. Yeah. It's very difficult
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 2: to just eat vegetables.
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 1: But it's great to tell, you get to tell everyone.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 2: But you do get to tell everyone and go, sorry.
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 1: You get to make Christmas difficult for your fucking.
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of animals die in making food, especially monocrop agriculture.
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 2: You have to kill millions and millions of birds and
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 2: rodents and rabbits and groundhogs. They all have to die.
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 2: They all have to die. And if you have a
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 2: large monocrop farm, you're killing a fuckload of animals every year. Yeah.
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 2: And forget about the bugs, the amount of bugs you murder.
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 2: You have to murder so many bugs in order to
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 2: have a farm. What, spraying shit? Spraying.
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 1: I thought you meant like driving.
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 2: Pesticides. They get run over by stuff. Combines chew up
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 2: animals that are there. There's a lot of death involved
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 2: in acquiring food. It's just the difference between the death
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 2: involved in acquiring food, the feeling that you get from
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 2: just going to a grocery store and picking up some vegetables.
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 2: You don't think about it. You think, oh, vegetables, no
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 2: big deal. Get some vegetables. A lot of death involved
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 2: in growing those vegetables. No fucking question about it. Unless
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 2: you're going to a regenerative organic farm and buying all
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 2: your vegetables from there. But I think the best way
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 2: is to grow your own in a garden. The feeling
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 2: that you get, like we're talking about like parsley and
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 2: herbs and stuff like that. The feeling that you get
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 2: when you make a salad from your own garden is
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 2: fucking amazing. Amazing. It's amazing. You're slicing up your own peppers.
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 1: Tomatoes.
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all that stuff. Putting it in a salad. Putting
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 2: the olive oil and vinegar on it. You're eating it like,
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 2: I fucking grew this.
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: And then you make it. And you also, you share
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 1: that with your family.
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 1: Which is probably the purest thing alive is to eat
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 1: with your family.
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 2: Yes. Might be.
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 1: Nothing better than that. Killing on stage and then feeding
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 1: your family tomatoes that you grew in your yard are
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 1: the two great goals in life.
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 2: We get to experience a thing that most people will
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 2: never experience. And that is the feeling that you get
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 2: from a crowd of people having a great time laughing.
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 2: That is, I can't imagine a life without that.
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 2: Because it's such a high. I've had so many conversations
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 2: with my friends like, imagine going through life and never killing.
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 2: Not once. Yeah. Never once. Never once where you get
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 2: a standing ovation, everybody's laughing. Thank you very much.
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 1: Good night.
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 2: That feeling is, we're so lucky. We're so fucking lucky
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 2: to have that feeling.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 2: And to have it all the time. You're going to
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 2: have it tonight. Yeah, hopefully.
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, brother. Even great comics can bomb, right?
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 1: And then even bad comics can kill. It's sort of
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 1: just the... Very rarely. Less likely than a great comic.
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, but especially when you... release a special, then
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 2: you're unarmed and then you have to go on stage
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 2: with new material. You don't know what the fuck you're
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 2: talking about. You're just trying.
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 2: And the beginning few sets, they're painful.
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going through some growing. I got this like new
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 1: bit without giving away about a caveman and his wife
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 1: having a fight and it crushes so hard for the
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 1: first little bit and then I kind of get into
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 1: some deep waters where I don't know where the fight's
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 1: going and sometimes it works out where they, you know,
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 1: make sense and then sometimes it just.
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 2: But one day it'll work.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 1: Hopefully.
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 2: It'll take forever. Yeah. I mean, that's what it is, man.
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 2: It's like this long journey of trying to figure out
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 2: what a bit really is. And then there's a real
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 2: problem with getting trapped in the original structure of it.
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 2: Like sometimes I get accustomed to saying something a certain way.
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, boy, this is dull. There's something
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 2: about this I don't like. Yeah. I need to abandon
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 2: it and redo it from the beginning. I know there's
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 2: something in the premise.
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 1: But it's not there you get repetitive and like I
• 2:50:53
  Speaker 1: start off that's my biggest problem is I start off
• 2:50:56
  Speaker 1: loose and then you say it so many times so
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 1: many nights that suddenly you start to go now I'm
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 1: reciting a script and I'm not talking to these people
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 1: at all exactly so sometimes I'll intentionally say something different
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 1: even if it makes the joke a little worse yeah
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 1: it elevates the experience because they know I'm fucking in
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 1: the room but That's how I tried. All my favorite people,
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 1: Patrice and Burr and all these guys, they are like that.
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 1: Not every set is the same.
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 2: Yes. You're fucking around with it.
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 2: And it keeps it fresh in your mind. It's still real.
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 1: We're blessed with some of the Patrice O'Neill stuff because
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 1: he has the same jokes in multiple different places, but
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: it's a different kind of thing each time. It's a
• 2:51:30
  Speaker 1: different vibe. It's a different way of speaking.
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, he was very improvisational, very loose, and also wise.
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 2: He would do these points... he would make these points.
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 2: He'd be like, oh yeah.
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 4: Always.
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 2: There was so much of his material.
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 1: And he could sell it to you in a dumb way.
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 1: It might be real stupid. Like that bit about him
• 2:51:49
  Speaker 1: enjoying watching baseball and then his wife comes over and
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend comes over and sits beside him going, what
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 1: are you doing? He goes, are you watching baseball?
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 2: Why are the blinds shut?
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: Let me open the blinds. Get the light in here.
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 1: He's like, what are you eating? Are you eating a burger?
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 1: You don't want a burger.
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 2: It's 11 a.m.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make you a sandwich, a dry turkey sandwich.
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 1: She's like, hug me.
• 2:52:10
  Speaker 2: Kiss me. Kiss me.
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 1: Mean it. Mean the kiss. Yeah, he's got the best bit.
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 1: He's got the best.
• 2:52:17
  Speaker 2: He was awesome.
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:52:20
  Speaker 1: I wish he was around. For just to have seen
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 1: him once, you know, before he was dead. He was
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 1: dead by the time I got here.
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 2: Well, he would be the biggest podcaster on earth.
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 1: You think so?
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 2: He'd be right up there. He'd be like, me and
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 2: him would be right there together. He might be number one.
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 2: I might be number two. That wouldn't be good for me.
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 1: Your rival is.
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 2: No, just take a little weight off me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 1: But you don't know. Maybe he's a fucking wacky old
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: fucking retard too. Because a lot of people, that happens.
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 2: He was too smart. He would not have been wacky.
• 2:52:53
  Speaker 2: He would have had great takes on things. He was
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 2: fantastic on Opie and Anthony. That's where I hung out
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 2: with him the most. Yeah. Doing Opie and Anthony with him. Yeah.
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 2: He was the best. Crusher. Yeah. He's just, it was
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 2: so funny. And like finding things that you do that
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 2: are stupid and like rubbing them in your face and
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 2: you have to like, no.
• 2:53:10
  Speaker 1: No, it's so true. Yeah.
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 2: It would have been awesome on podcast. Cause it was
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 2: like designed for that. Let's work. Cause Opie and Anthony
• 2:53:19
  Speaker 2: was really the first podcast. It was really, it was
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 2: a radio show. Sure. But credit to them, the way
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 2: they ran it, they let the comedians run it. It was,
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 2: you know, Voss and Jimmy Norton and Burr and Ari
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 2: and all of us, we'd be in there and it
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 2: would just be like a wild podcast. They let everybody
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 2: just go nuts. They didn't have a structure. Like if
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 2: you do Howard Stern, you have a structure. Howard Stern's
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 2: not going to let me come on with three of
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 2: my friends and just talk shit and smoke weed and
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 2: get crazy. With Howard Stern, you'd go on, so let
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 2: me tell you, let me ask you a fear factor.
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 2: Did you do that? Did you like that show? Did
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 2: you just do it for money? He would ask, it
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 2: was an interview.
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: And I was emailed to you beforehand, these are the
• 2:53:59
  Speaker 1: questions we're going to ask.
• 2:54:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Howard didn't do it that way.
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 2: But when you would do Opie and Anthony, you would
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 2: do it, it was a hang.
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 2: You would just go in and everybody would hang out.
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 2: And there was always content. And it made me realize, like, oh,
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 2: you don't have to have a structure anymore. Like this conversation.
• 2:54:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:54:14
  Speaker 2: You and I met last night for the first time.
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 2: We hung out in the green room, had a grand
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 2: old time. And then we came here today. We didn't
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 2: talk about what we're going to talk about.
• 2:54:22
  Speaker 1: We actually didn't talk about a single thing we talked
• 2:54:24
  Speaker 1: about last night. I was coming in here today going,
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to talk about Ark of the
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 1: Triumph or whatever. Not the Ark of the Covenant being
• 2:54:31
  Speaker 1: guarded by some fucking Ethiopians. I was like, we're definitely
• 2:54:34
  Speaker 1: talking about that. Didn't even come close to it.
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing about a podcast. And that was
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 2: the thing about Opie and Anthony. It was wide open.
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 2: And I think that was the birth of podcasts. I
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 2: think that show in particular, because of the way they
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 2: ran it, particularly because of Anthony. Like Anthony Cumia is
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 2: a very, he's got a lot of interesting information and
• 2:54:54
  Speaker 2: knowledge in his head.
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 2: And he always will pull these things out, like historical
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 2: references to things like So the way this started, and
• 2:55:01
  Speaker 2: he would explain something, and you're like, whoa, that's crazy.
• 2:55:04
  Speaker 2: He knows a lot of things, and it contributed to
• 2:55:07
  Speaker 2: the depth of the conversation. And then everybody would be
• 2:55:09
  Speaker 2: talking shit about it, but they just let it play out.
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you listen on Spotify somewhere, someone's put all
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 1: of the Patrice O'Neill stuff. It's like a whole album
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 1: of just Patrice O'Neill and ONA.
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd put that on. When I used to drive trucks,
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 1: I'd put that on. There was something about it because
• 2:55:25
  Speaker 1: it was very slow, almost like as if no one
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 1: was in any hurry. Sometimes with podcasts now, we're all
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 1: trying to zing, zing, whatever. They had this kind of
• 2:55:33
  Speaker 1: a calm thing. We're going, we're here for four fucking hours,
• 2:55:35
  Speaker 1: so let's take our time. Let's relax.
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 2: And they're doing it every day.
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 1: And they were talking about one subject for a long time. Yeah.
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 1: They would stick on it for an hour and a half.
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 1: It was a great show.
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember before I did it, I would listen
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 2: to it all the time. I'm like, these guys are
• 2:55:47
  Speaker 2: having fun.
• 2:55:49
  Speaker 1: Kumi is doing something with Jim now.
• 2:55:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:55:50
  Speaker 1: They have a party.
• 2:55:51
  Speaker 2: Fantastic. They were just guests on Kill Tony.
• 2:55:54
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 2: So the episode's out this week.
• 2:55:56
  Speaker 1: So I did Kill Tony a couple of weeks ago.
• 2:55:58
  Speaker 1: I was in town. And they just let me go
• 2:56:01
  Speaker 1: up and do a spot, you know. I didn't have
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 1: to do a bucket or anything like that. But I
• 2:56:04
  Speaker 1: got more feedback on that show than like pretty much
• 2:56:06
  Speaker 1: anything I've ever done. It's huge. Yeah, I had like
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 1: cousins I haven't talked to in years reach out to
• 2:56:11
  Speaker 1: me and things like that. Going, hey, I saw you
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 1: on Fargo Guild Tony. And I was like, yeah, I'm
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 1: doing stuff all the time actually. But yeah, thanks. Yeah,
• 2:56:16
  Speaker 1: it's massive.
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to the Monday night. Well, I went
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 2: to meet Jeremy Clarkson because he came to watch the
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 2: Monday night show.
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 1: He was just hanging out.
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 2: Just hanging out. Hanging out in the green room. He's
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 2: the best. He's so fun. But Jimmy introduced me to him.
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Carr. So he was a guest on the panel.
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I heckled Jimmy Carr in a theater before
• 2:56:32
  Speaker 1: I ever did stand up years ago. Fucking years ago.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know what got into it. You know, he
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 1: was doing a Q & A at the end of it.
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 1: And this is a big theater in Ireland. And he
• 2:56:43
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't even have any questions. And I said,
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 1: can I get a photo with you after the show?
• 2:56:48
  Speaker 1: And then he started making fun of my accent going.
• 2:56:49
  Speaker 2: I'll get a photo with you.
• 2:56:51
  Speaker 1: He goes, oh, he's stolen camera or whatever. And then
• 2:56:53
  Speaker 1: I said, your fat head might not fit in the photo.
• 2:56:56
  Speaker 1: And then the whole crowd.
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 2: Goes, whoa.
• 2:56:58
  Speaker 1: And then he did a little, let me just open
• 2:57:00
  Speaker 1: this can of whoop-ass. And I don't even remember what
• 2:57:03
  Speaker 1: he said to me, but he just unleashed all of the.
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 2: And people are grabbing me going, oh, I haven't seen.
• 2:57:10
  Speaker 2: from the strangers.
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 1: You're a fucking agent.
• 2:57:13
  Speaker 2: You're a dipshit. Were you thinking about doing comedy before that?
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 1: I think I might have been.
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, like in the backyard.
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 1: And I definitely started... I met him again years later
• 2:57:23
  Speaker 1: at another show and I told him the story, but
• 2:57:24
  Speaker 1: I definitely, I wanted, you know, I wanted to do
• 2:57:26
  Speaker 1: comedy when I was like 16 because I saw it
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 1: on TV. I go, this is the coolest thing ever.
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 1: But I'd only ever seen like specials. That's all I
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 1: knew was specials. So I was like, I got to
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 1: write an hour and then I'll go do a special.
• 2:57:37
  Speaker 1: That's why I was 16. I didn't have any idea.
• 2:57:40
  Speaker 1: So I remember sitting down going, all right, I'll write it.
• 2:57:42
  Speaker 1: I'll write a little every night. And then after a
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I'll have an hour and then I'll
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  Speaker 1: just go be on TV like these guys. Yeah. Like
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  Speaker 1: that's genuinely, I had no understanding of what was the
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  Speaker 1: in between there.
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  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, so I remember writing a story one night
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  Speaker 1: and then the next night I sat down to write again.
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  Speaker 1: I reread the previous night. I was like, that's not
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  Speaker 1: funny at all. And I just said, all right, I
• 2:58:00
  Speaker 1: can't do that. And then it wasn't until like fucking
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  Speaker 1: six years later, I saw a thing on TV about
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  Speaker 1: open mics. I was like, oh, I didn't even realize
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  Speaker 1: there's like a whole thing in between. Yeah, process.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then that was like years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, brother, you're very funny.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Really funny. I've enjoyed watching your shit. I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to watching you tonight live. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The caveman. We'll see if it goes or not.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: This is the new special?
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  Speaker 2: The special Bells and Whistles, available right now on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Where'd you film it?
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  Speaker 1: New York Comedy Club. Nice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful. Yeah, there we go. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much, Joe. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, brother. Thank you. Let's do this again sometime.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Bye, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Bye.